Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Dear YikYakker, ya beat me to the punch about what I had to say from me small brainy mind... Yesterday's Ralphus Maleficarum picture of the day with our dear Jane getting a face full of water to wake her after a brutal severe Flogging; was followed by her look of hate and contempt for her tormentors.
A look that said out loud, "FUCK YOU ALL". was a real moment for Heroone. Have you fellow GIMPers seen the YouTube interviews yet...they are really good. |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Many thanks Ralphus... Heroone sometimes can not get it "Right"... My last posting should have included about that look from our tortured Jane as saying "I'm not scared ...Bring it on (today's terminology), I can take it"... Heroone would say " I just scream a lot". I'm dating myself, that last quote was from the late Robert Vaughn, the Man From Uncle TV Series, his response when threatened with torture... |
Name: | YikYakker |
So to recap this whole Mariana/Jane/Amy-gets-a-bucket-of-water-in-the-face scene: First, she is in excruciating pain...so much pain that she passes out, thus relieving her mind and body of painful sensations. So they throw a bucket of water in her face to revive her. Suddenly, all of the pain comes rushing back with a fury...
...after getting over the shock of that, she is really pissed off that they woke her up. Nicely done. |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Yik Yakker - perfect summation, all Heroone can say is Well Done and Well Said. This fellow GIMPer says Thank You. |
Name: | Reine Margot | |||||||||||||||||||
Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/home | |||||||||||||||||||
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Name: | TGG |
Homepage URL: | http://www.catenalogic.com/products/mymediabookmarks/information |
I have a resource I would like to share with the GIMP community. I bet when you are watching a video on your computer, you can rarely sit through it in it's entirety. You often have to take a break and then try to remember where in the video you were when you resume. You then have to fast forward or scroll to the point where you left off manually. Am I right? |
Name: | YikYakker |
Margot: I received an e-mail recently, from someone here, I will not disclose his identity, not even under torture. But if that situation came up, you would, um...film it for us, right? |
Name: | Roemer |
I would like to post I am not interested in a Malefic..dings Forum. The Red F. company should use their own website. |
Name: | Sloth |
Reine Margot - those interview segments have been very entertaining - I await the release of "Le Marquis de la Croix" - looks like another exciting effort. Heroone - did Robert Vaughn pass away in the last few days? - last I heard he was doing, and still is, a long running series on British tv titled "Hustle" - could it be the reports of his death are greatly exaggerated? Stay well all |
Name: | Subhunt |
E-mail address: | subhunt@bellsouth.net |
Homepage URL: | http://darkfetishnet.com |
Thank you for the John Blakemore interview! I discovered the joy of a tied up female when I was in First Grade! I discovered HOM when I was in High School. I've been a huge fan since then. I found several HOM images several years ago. I'm sharing those priceless images at two sites. The first site is "DarkFetishNet.com". I have posted two albums there, the 'Subhunt' albums. My second site, where I have posted more HOM pics, is at "CruxForums.com". This is a forum dedicated to the beauty of the Crucified female. The Bondage loving community is a tiny minority of the general population. As a Crucifixion lover and crucifixion devotee, I'm a tiny minority within a tiny minority! The "Crucifixion Fan Club" is probably 'The World's Smallest Club'. I have one album dedicated to HOM pictures. It's in the BDSM section. My second series of HOM pics are found under "Crucified Upside Down". The membership ROARED their approval of my submitted upside down HOM pics. John Blakemore enriched my life by taking those photos. Now, I'm sharing the few pics that I have, and I am sharing them in a world wide forum. Please thank John Blakemore for me! The membership at "CruxForums" also sends him their fondest regards. He is now known to a world wide audience, most of whom was not familiar with HOM. The applause directed towards John Blakemore is loud, fast and furious. I hope that he takes a bow as he acknowledges the new world wide applause. Please, send him my very fondest personal regards. Subhunt : ) ----: |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Sloth - your correct; Napolean Solo is still with us. Sorry, Heroone was at the well before he posted... I too am looking forward to the release of Jane's "Le Marquis". |
Name: | Greg |
Just love the sight of delicious Jane after she has had the water slooshed over her. It makes look like she's bathed in sweat and it makes the blood droooool all down that delicious torso. Pile on the lashes guys!! |
Name: | Griffin |
This is about actress Alexandra Delli Colli nude bondage scene in the movie 'New York Ripper' released in 1982. I watched this movie and its worthy. In one of the movie forums, it was mentioned there is an uncut version with whipping scene on her breasts. I searched badly but can't find it.. any help here?.. thanks... |
Name: | YikYakker |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/reviews/mainstream/nyripper.htm |
Griffin: I did a review of New York Ripper a while back (see the link above in my Homepage URL). Besides providing caps of the movie, the review includes a link at the bottom to the product site on Amazon. Note that it's the unrated version. But my recollection is that the scene does not show an actual whipping, but the aftermath (whip marks on her breasts) as she is lying tied to the bedposts. Perhaps there is another version that has some real whipping going on, but I'm not aware of it. This site's Whipping Scenes in Movies Database (WSIMD) does not have an entry for this scene. But another 1982 movie named Vice Squad does feature a pimp using a wire whip on women tied to beds. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-sFohRgxOBI/S4pNkeQSweI/AAAAAAAAKD0/pYe2iCTQLp4/s1600-h/MAD+10+WONDER+WOMAN+04.jpg |
As Wonder Woman celebrates her 70th anniversary, some GIMPers might enjoy this article about how the superhero has appealed to both feminists and bondage lovers. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Roemer wrote: I would like to post I am not interested in a Malefic..dings Forum. The Red F. company should use their own website. Just because we're having a Maleficarum promotion doesn't mean you can't post. In fact, you already did post, but it was just to bitch (not your first time doing that here). If there's anything you want to talk about, you don't have to wait until the promotion is over. This forum is not all about Red Feline; we've also had posts today about a classic 1970s Italian giallo film, HOM pioneer John Blakemore, and even Wonder Woman so far. So what would you like to post about? Just keep it on topic and anything goes. And BTW, Red Feline is welcome to promote their movies on this website, as are any other bondage producers. As for the daily pictures at the top of the site, that's my idea, not theirs. If you don't like them, let me ask you one question. How much did you pay to get in here? ---------------- Subhunt: Thanks for the acknowledgement of the Blakemore interview. It took me a long time to put together since it occurred over the phone and I had to transcribe hours of recorded conversations by hand. It was worth it, though. I think it's one of the best features we have on the site. You might get a kick out of this page I found online about Blakemore. It even mentions the interview, which was conducted by "someone named Ralphus": The SM Detective Whatever Happened to John Blakemore? BTW, do you have a more direct link to your sites? Dark Fetish Network is huge, and I find it difficult to search for stuff there. ---------------- A Canadian: Nice link about Wonder Woman. I'm not a comic book aficionado by any means, but I was still surprised to read that Wonder Woman was tied up or chained 9 times in the first 10 issues. That's hilarious! Apparently the creator of the comic book was clearly a bondage fan himself, which explains a lot. And even today, that's probably what Wonder Woman is best known for. Just imagine how many young men and boys had their first bondage fantasies while reading a Wonder Woman comic book. |
Name: | Rick |
Homepage URL: | http://www.zfx-shockwavevideo.com |
Greetings All. Iago wrote: I'm not opposed to electronic ownership, but streaming really never did it for me. Can someone here recommend some good ZFX from recent years? I'm particularly keen on his mad scientist stuff, but I'm also a big spandex fan. If your looking for somethng Sci-Fi based, I would recommend Viral Load. If you havent already watched it, I think it would be right up your alley. Also, Ballista 1, Ballista 2 and Ballista 3 have some elements of the mad scientist theme. Hope that helps. Iago wrote: Nowadays it looks to me (and maybe I'm missing something) more like a front page and sometimes a streaming site. The site has been static for some time, I assume your talking about zfx-shockwavevideo.com. I do have plans to update it, so that may restore a bit of its luster. There are trailers for Goon Squad 1 and Goon Squad 2:Patriot Acts and galleries for them HERE. zfxvideo.com is a portal to ZFXVOD.COM, there is no content on zfxvideo.com itself. Heroone wrote: After reading Rick posting, I have to see SOB3... Sorry to say that the Adult section of CDUniverse no long has it in their catalogue. But good news, I found an adult DVD store in Florida selling used copies, and hopefully will get it ten days. Well, SOB3 is a great choice to watch, especially since you have SOB4, but for review? In checking the review section, it looks like SOB3 has 3 reviews already. I guess it's going to be a quartet. Maybe you will like SOB3 more than Jhlipton liked SOB4. Jhlipton wrote : I've seen a number of clips from ZFX, and, like Red Feline, I should like them. As you say "interrogation scenes, whipping, electro, hot chicks and very harsh treatment" -- what's not to like? :-) Of course, not everything appeals to everyone, even if on the surface it seems that it would. Just out of curiosity, where did you see "a number of clips" from ZFX? This is for Heroone, Iago and anyone who is interested in buying SOB3, or any other ZFX title. We have DRM free ZFX downloads for 24.95 on ZFXVOD.COM and it's a dam bit quicker than waiting for it by pony express. There are also rentals even cheaper, 9.95-14.95 for different length rentals. I think they self destruct after 7 or 30 days or something, or the key does. You don't get to keep it like a download if you rent. It's a low cost alternative. Personally, I like streaming, because Hotmovies has a huge amount of stuff to choose from, and you don't have to wait for a download. Some people like a physical object, particularly collectors. I'm not sure what's going on with cduniverse, I will try to find out. I hate to hear people trying to buy legit and having to end up buying "used" dvd's because "used" frequently means bootleg. Not always, but frequently. Let's hope that's not the case, I know most here do not want to support bootleggers. There is also ZFX Bondage Clip Store if you're looking for a particular scene ala cart. I invite you to take a look around, see if anything strikes your fancy. It's being updated constantly so there will be more and more clips as time goes on. mr bush wrote: it appears that Lisa might be a little chunky in the last effort. Are my eyes deceiving me? I would say slightly, she looks good to my eyes but compared to her 20 year old self...yes probably. She has always been voluptuous, soft. She is a tiny 5 footer, so if she gains a pound it shows. I sure hope to hell she never reads this board... Ok that's it for now... Rick |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerrryBear46@comcast.Net |
Rick - Many thank for the big FYI about access to your Video... I like plot driven WSIMs etc. I like Jess Franco and Paul Naschy..I have ain't rich and I ain't poor neither... What suggestions do you have? I hope I was able to articulate, I ain't sober...too much BV Cab, taste... I was hosting, I should say crashing a California SCA medieval re-enactors TGIF party, with an Infocus projector under my arm, and got most to view Maleficarum tonight... Gonna share the results with our Jane...gonna go to bed now...good might my fellow GIMPers. Heroone |
Name: | Greg |
Seems odd to me somebody wants to bitch over items on the site. For a dyed in the wool gimper like me what's not to like? There are always things that do not interest you, but just skip them to a bit that does, there's bound to be something here for chrissakes. As for the delicious Jane and Maleficarum I say, keep bloody posting. That is one of the things I keep coming in for each day. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Rick wrote: I'm not sure what's going on with cduniverse, I will try to find out. That's interesting. I had assumed Rick had deliberately taken some movies off the market, for whatever reason. For example, Forced Entry isn't available at cduniverse and, in fact, doesn't seem to be available (on DVD) anywhere. I had concluded this was intentional. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/special/stories/asiangirl342333/ |
A Canadian wrote: ...Forced Entry isn't available at cduniverse and, in fact, doesn't seem to be available (on DVD) anywhere. That would be troublesome news that one couldn't buy Forced Entry anymore, especially since it's one of ZFX's very best movies. Fortunately, in doing a quick search through Google, I found 4 sites that offered it on DVD, although usually in the $45-50 range. There were likely more, but I quit searching after the 4th one. Nonetheless, the buy link on my official review (Adult DVD Marketplace) now reads "Sorry, but Forced Entry (ZFX) is no longer available for sale on our site." It obviously used to be, but was taken off. And on the adult version of CD Universe, which has an affiliate banner link on the ZFX official website, their site lists 109 ZFX titles. I don't know if that's less than it used to be, but ZFX has over 150 movies, and to my knowledge, none have ever been voluntarily taken off the market. Yet, when I went there to buy War Pigs, I noticed they carried the first, 3rd and 4th volumes, but strangely, not War Pigs 2. Figure that out. It wasn't that long ago that Rick devoted a few years of his life to upgrading his entire catalog of work to a digital format. Makes no sense that he would pull any of them from distribution. -------------------- I don't know how many here ever visit our GIMP FICTION section, although I've been getting Google Analytics reports lately that indicate it's much higher than I originally expected. I'll confess I'm not an avid story reader; being a guy I'm more into the immediate visual stimulation that videos offer. It's also a matter of not being able to devote enough time into just sitting down and letting a story take over my imagination. But in the past few weeks, I've done just that with a couple of stories by our very own Eda Chang, and the results have been well worth the investment. Let's start with one of Eda's shorter stories, IRAQUI TRAVELS. This one was recommended to me and I figured, it's short, let's go for it. I loved this story! Eda has a real gift for describing the action, the way the characters are experiencing their torments, and best of all, her villains know exactly the right threatening thing to say to their victims. And the torturous ending pushed all my buttons, as you'll see when you read what happens. All I can say is, I wish this were a movie. This led me to attempting to tackle PLAYING THE GAME, which Eda told me is her personal favorite of all the stories she's written. I cringed when I saw it was loooong, so long that it's two parts, but once I started with it, I couldn't stop. It took me 2 days to read it, but what a satisfying experience. It's got an ingenious plot with lots of twists that you won't see coming, with perfect dialogue that enhances the narrative. If there's one caveat, it would be that it takes longer than I was hoping to get to the "good" parts, but the story and the buildup itself is almost as entertaining to read as the GIMP scenes. And of course, the payoffs are well worth it. This chick's reputation is well-deserved. She's a helluva writer. |
Name: | YikYakker |
Has anyone seen the movie The Skin I Live In? The plot is a staple of many horror films: mad scientist loses his wife in a horrible accident and conducts experiments using live humans in his attempts to revive/replace her. But CNDb says that Blanca Suárez gets raped, as does Elena Anaya, who is also seen wearing a costume cut to expose her breasts, just like Adrienne Corri in A Clockwork Orange. BTW, Anaya plays a character named Vera Cruz, which also happens to be the name of a city in Mexico as well as the title of a movie about the famous battle that took place there. I don't know why I brought that up...must be one of those stream-of-consciousness things. ---------- Greg wrote: Seems odd to me somebody wants to bitch over items on the site. For a dyed in the wool gimper like me what's not to like? There are always things that do not interest you, but just skip them to a bit that does, there's bound to be something here for chrissakes. There sure is a lot going on here: like databases (torture/suspension and rape), GIMP fiction, movie reviews (many with illustrations!), and if you can't find what you're looking for in those features you can always use Search-the-GIMP to tap into conversations, links or images about your favorite topics, and the banner links take you to sites that sell movies, and... Please excuse me for a few moments, I'm hyperventilating... ---------- Speaking of bitching...I was using Search the GIMP the other day and came across a post by one of our infrequent but consistently annoying visitors - I'm sure you know who I'm talking about - complaining about "boring topics". Among the causes of his ennui was the subject of clothes-ripping, which is near and dear to my heart. So as Jim Carrey used to say when he was portraying Fire Marshal Bill, "Let me tell ya something..." For me, clothes-ripping (or cutting) is like the foreplay of the GIMP act. Sure, I want to see the girls naked, or at least topless. But I want to see them get that way forcefully and in stages, like a violent, non-consensual striptease. If a see or review a movie that has clothes-ripping events leading to skin-showing GIMPage, I will mention it as a public service to like-minded GIMPers. One of my few - and I mean very few - gripes about Maleficarum is that in the scenes where Mariana and Francisca are taken to the dungeon to be stripped and whipped, their clothes are pulled off, not torn off. But it's understandable. I can imagine The Heskinator protesting, "Oh no you don't! I stayed up all night working on that dress! No ripping!" Oh well, maybe the next movie will have some garment-shredding action. |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
Rick: Just out of curiosity, where did you see "a number of clips" from ZFX?
I really don't recall. I come and go on several forums, and it could have been on any number of them. |
Name: | Badger |
YikYakker:
I am disappointed that I just missed "The Skin I Live In" at my local Indie theater. A friend who is not a Gimper (at least, not that I aware of; who knows? maybe he's msterotics!)
Anyway, I thought it would be awkward to ask "So-o-o, How were the Rapes?". But he said the flick was weird but interesting.
I can understand your attraction to Clothes-Ripping. Personally, I am into Forced-to-Strip, which is why I am hoping that the remake of "Mothers Day" will be available in the U.S. soon. |
Name: | John Galt |
YikYakker: I'm with you in the clothes-ripping department. There is just something so visceral about a bad guy taking hold of a blouse and violently ripping it open as the helpless hot female victim gasps in surprise and embarrassment, her body arching forward with the force of the pull. Having buttons fly off and ricochet around the room is also a nice musical accompaniment to the action. I was watching something one time where a button rolled into the foreground in front of the camera, which was a serendipitous bit of luck since it could not possibly have been planned. Nothing rips quite like a blouse, though. Skirts just don't tear right. I will say there was a nice bit in one movie I saw long ago (the name of which escapes me but feel free to identify it someone because I'm sure it was memorable to more than just me) where the female protagonist was face down on a bed and a knife-wielding guy was kneeling behind her and ran the knives up the insides of her pant legs (they were bell-bottoms, I'm fairly certain) and then suddenly ripped backwards, shredding the pant legs and exposing her up to her shapely butt. I'm pretty sure I'm remembering that accurately. It was the best pants leg shredding I have ever seen. Mmm. But yes, give me a good violent bodice ripping leading up to a rape and I'm happy. * * * * * Reine Margot and Rick, thanks for the insightful posts. It is always fun reading "inside" information straight from the mouths of the producers and participants. * * * * * Well, Hogtied put up Part 2 of The Dig, Part 1 of which I reviewed last month. It is more of the same, except less. That is to say, the action (what of it there is) continues for about 20 minutes, then the remaining 34 minutes are taken up by an interview and behind the scenes documentary. * * * * * The Dig, Part 2 (A Hogtied Video Presentation, 2011) The Dig, Part 2 is a 57 minute video, but 37 minutes of it are after-interview and behind the scenes documentary. That means if you combine both parts together, The Dig, Parts 1 and 2 run for about 48 minutes total. This is more of the same standard Hogtied stuff, which is to say it was pretty good. I will still say that as a "BDSM Abduction Horror Feature," it fails. You can read the review of Part 1 here, but to recap the plot set up: Rain DeGrey is the lead paleontologist, with Iona Grace and Cherry Torn assisting her. They are out in the middle of nowhere. Three guys in bird-like outfits swoop in and the BDSM abduction horror film begins. Part 2 begins with Cherry Torn naked hanging upside down from a tree, her ankles together and her hands bound behind her back. Her breasts are also in restrictive bondage. She is swaying and moaning. Off to the side, Rain Degrey is bound with her arms spread between two trees. Her breasts are also in restrictive bondage, tied separately to the trees. Her feet are not bound. The after interview and behind the scenes documentary were actually the most interesting thing about this video. It turns out they went on location to New York to shoot this with Intersec and PD. They were there during extremely bad weather, and it was flooding and raining and cold the entire time. And they were being eaten alive by mosquitoes. I have to give real props to Rain Degrey for standing in that floodwater waterfall, which was extremely cold. In fact, it looked colder and more uncomfortable in the documentary than in Part 1 when it took place. We also find out that Cherry got nauseous and vomited while she was suspended upside down, and they had to let her down to recover, but then hauled her back up to finish the scene. Although I would have liked to see more terror and fear and, well, acting in these videos, I have no problem giving all three of these gals immense respect for what they went through to shoot this. SUMMARY: Our three female paleontologists continue to be bound and punished by the bird guys. Upside down hanging bondage, extremely tight breast bondage, whipping, switching, fucking and finger fucking, forced fellatio, and suspensions. This is the second part of an impressive, professionally shot feature. Like Part 1, the acting is minimal. My biggest complaint, which I mentioned in Part 1 and it continued in Part 2, is that the girls don't sell it as a "horror" movie. What I said in my first review still applies: It would have been better if the girls had been more vocal, asking why the bird guys were doing things to them, asking what the bird guys were, begging to be let go, crying hysterically--in short, acting the part of three terrified girls. They just came across as three pain sluts enduring the pain. No terror, no humiliation, no confusion, no nothing that would have made me believe the scenario. So even in Part 2, there was no horror aspect to this video. Not a horror film. Just a very well done Hogtied video feature. With a really enjoyable after interview and making-of documentary tagged on the end. This part was even shorter than the first, but I will maintain its C grade. You can download this from Hogtied for about $19.99. If you are a member you can download it as part of your membership. |
Name: | A Canadian |
John Galt: Once again, the stills from The Dig are impressive. It's too bad the film didn't live up to its potential. In any event, thanks for the review and the caps. |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
Homepage URL: | http://deadskirts.com/superboard/viewtopic.php?t=25783 |
Speaking of shirts ripping and buttons flying, I wrote a story for a member of Dead Skirts. The victim is alive (if barely) at the end, so those not into death-fetish can believe she survives.
I had fun writing it, and the lady who inspired it had fun reading it. I hope one or two of you enjoy it as well. |
Name: | meinaru |
Life is full of surprises. All I wanted was to find some screen captures from the infamous "Brides of Blood" and what I got was this blog with a motherload of GIMP clips. Thought I would share, and I hope it's not a repost! |
Name: | Jane von Detlefson |
Homepage URL: | http://movies.redfeline.com |
Hey all, sorry to be away so long. I've had the flu, today I'm a little better. And I have part 3 of the interviews with me below: Thanks for all of the interesting suggestions for future movies, I love thinking about the next feature. The reason that the clothes were not ripped in Maleficarum is that JJ wanted to be more authentic in that detail. In the research we did on the Peruvian inquisition, for each person "investigated" by the inquisition, there was a catalog of belongings, including clothing, that was written down. If and when the person was acquitted, they would be given their clothes back, or the clothing could be used to defer the cost of the interrogation, for which the prisoner was liable. If the person was not acquitted, the clothing would be sold after their death, again, to defer the cost of the interrogation and execution. In the case of Mariana and Francisca, they had clothing worth selling, and that's why they were stripped instead of having their clothing ripped. And that concludes my lecture. I'm still collecting questions, so bring 'em on! |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/reviews/other/dig2.htm |
John Galt: Very nice review, thank you. I applaud Hogtied for doing something ambitious and different, with thankfully no vibrators this time. I love the upside-down bondage with tied titties. And the addition of the rock tied around her throat is a very nice idea. Might be worth checking out just for that scene. In actuality, it would have been interesting to have seen the outtakes, like Cherry vomiting while she was hanging upside-down. Those girls earned their money on this shoot, no doubt. Too bad it sounds like it failed as a horror film. A little expression of fear by the girls and it might have worked a lot better. The direct link to your latest review is in my Homepage URL above. ---------------- Well, this afternoon I went down to my local art theatre and checked out The Skin I Live In, which was recently brought up on this board. The film stars the gorgeous Elena Anaya and she is frequently seen nude, which is refreshing considering what we usually get in Hollywood films. Fortunately, this film was made in Spain where attractive women are still allowed to show off their assets on the screen.
Let's get to the important stuff. Yes, Anaya does get raped in the movie. It starts off with the bad guy (wearing a tiger costume...don't ask) breaking into her room and chasing her out into the hall, where he gets on top of her on the floor. She's got on a skintight flesh-colored bodysuit and he starts by opening up the area over her breasts and exposing them (ala A Clockwork Orange).
Then he picks up her up and carries her over his shoulder (also like in Clockwork) and takes her to a bed where the rape occurs. Personally, I think the rape scene is quite good for a mainstream scene. He doesn't tie her up (he should have) but we do see some boobage. She tells him he's hurting her because he's too big, which is pretty cool. Unfortunately, it has an unhappy ending for the rapist but he lives long enough to do the deed. There is a bondage scene in the movie but it's an just older lady who gets tied to a chair and stuff gagged and forced to watch while Anaya gets raped. Unless you're into geriatric victims, it's not really worth getting excited about. It was mentioned that 2 women get raped in this film but I'm not sure you can call the other scene an actual rape. Date rape perhaps, but it's open to interpretion. Antonio Banderas' daughter (played by the very cute Blanca Suárez) gets taken outside after a wedding reception by a guy so they can go into in the woods where other couples are making out. She starts taking off her shoes and sweater and says if she had her way, she would prefer not to wear clothes at all (unbeknownst to him, she's got mental issues).
The guy takes that as an invitation to help her get naked so he gets her down on the ground, pulls down her dress and starts making out with her. She's nervous and tentative but lets him go ahead. Then all of a sudden she objects and starts screaming. He panics and sticks his hand over her mouth to shut her up. And she counters that by biting his hand. He has to hit her in the face to make her stop, which knocks her out cold. He covers her back up and takes off, leaving her laying out on the ground. That's where Banderas finds her.
If you're going to watch the movie just for the rape scene(s), you might be surprised by how good the rest of the movie turns out to be. It would be a crime to give away the surprises and plot twists, but suffice to say you've probably never seen a film quite like this. One thing though...Anaya's rape scene might seem less enjoyable if you watch it a second time after seeing what unfolds in the story. Whoops, have I given away a clue? Maybe. But definitely seek out the film if you can find it; it's really good. My grade: A- |
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Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/home | |||||||||||||||||||
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Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Margot C. - Don't you dear allow anyone, now or ever to tear one of our Jane's hand created Period Costumes... When I showed Maleficarum to a bunch of California members of SCA, Medieval re-enactors, they remarked that our Jane had created garments correct to the period and they do look like the fine Silks and Dutch linen of that period of 17th century Alta Peru, that only the very wealthy would wear, let alone own. |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
Ralphus, re "The Skin I Live In": she is frequently seen nude
And yet not one titty in your screencaps! For shame! |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
jhlipton: Yep, Google Images doesn't show you the good stuff. Damn them! Hard to get better when the movie's still in the theatre. I'll update the images in my review when the film hits DVD. In the meantime, you'll just have to go to the movies if you wanna see the bare titties. |
Name: | mstrerotic |
Question...I'm a bit confused...Who is Amy...who is Jane...who is Mia...is Amy and Jane the same person...? I never saw Amy's name mentioned until this interview. |
Name: | mstrerotic |
As an addition...I am concerned that the rack scene is just a stretching excercise. Where a good rack scene would also have heated irons applied, as well as long, thin heated needles under her toenail...this would make her confess, not mere stretching which could kill before a confession. |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
mstrerotic: "...I am concerned that the rack scene is just a stretching excercise. Where a good rack scene would also have heated irons applied, as well as long, thin heated needles under her toenail...this would make her confess..." Ralphus and many other GIMPer have already got it right...This movie is not a fantasy, like many of those fetish bondage movies out there, i.e. InquisitionWorld Production, etc. Maleficarum is a historical fiction stage play of what the victims of the bloody and corrupt Spanish Inquisition had to endure in 17th Century Alta Peru, and in the most shocking and very graphic details. And it was done on a very small budget by an equally small independent film company In Bolivia. I think Ralphus said it correctly..."Guys, it's only a movie..." |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Heroone wrote: I think Ralphus said it correctly..."Guys, it's only a movie..." Now hang on, I did say that, but don't quote me out of context. When I said that, I was referring to the girls not having hairy legs and armpits in the movie, even though that may be historically accurate. I think the point mstrerotic is making is justified...to a degree, anyway. How the victims are tortured in the rack scenes is very important stuff precisely because it IS a movie and this is the kind of stuff we want to see in movies. mstrerotic: The answer to your question is that both rack scenes involve stretching only. There are no heated needles under the fingernails. Both girls are branded several times with hot irons; however, these tortures occur later in the film and not while they are bound to the rack. The good thing about both rack scenes is that the women are tortured while naked and both appear to be a great deal of pain. Both scenes go on for a number of minutes, too, quite unlike what we get in mainstream movies. I think they are both very good sequences that rival anything else listed in the Torture Rack Scenes Database. Now surely you don't plan on using the fact that there's stretching only in the rack scene to justify not buying Maleficarum, right? For a guy whose favorite hobby is whining about the lack of Inquisition offerings, this is the Inquisition film to end all Inquisition films, loaded with torture from beginning to end...what exactly are you waiting for? I can't believe you didn't buy it on the first day it came out. As to who is who in the movie, read my review which should answer your questions. |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
Homepage URL: | http://www.justsomelyrics.com/1653493/Flanders-And-Swann-The-Reluctant-Cannibal-Lyrics |
re the Daily Picture Comment: No matter who you're feeding, Maleficarum's hickory smoked girl meat is sure to please everyone!
Quoth the The Reluctant Cannibal (start at 2:03): "Eating people is WRONG!" (Lyrics in the URL.) |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.net |
Ralphus, Heroone copies 5X5, like you say, mstreroctica has is right on, but Heroone says is up to the Tormentor, like Eric C., what does he want to do to satisfy his masters... Does he kill her, and which one does he sacrifice to to get the confession. In the Maleficarum, a love story between two women, one a street poor Protestant and a very Wealthy Orphan, the weak lynch pin was our jane, Mariana Del Castro... The Torturer don't really care about her...she just the amusement of the time. Mstreroctica is right, the rack scene was to scare the rich Orphan, Donna Maria Francisca...she got the money and is the main target...get Mariana into a situation of near death or horrific torture and ya crack the nut..., You viewer of Inquisition World Production, please don't go here, this movie is different. Big F'n Sorry if ya have not seen the movie. It really is a mainstream movie from a small IFC type company with a small budget that is pushing their envelope. And something a U.S.A. Indy would not attempt, since American are still very Puritanical in their outlook of on rules and ratings. |
Name: | Jane von Detlefson |
Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/dvdstore/ |
mstrerotic - I think that everyone has a particular set of details they like to see in a scene. Here's a direct quote from a fan who sent us an email after he saw the movie. He's a connoisseur of rack scenes. "The two torture rack scenes took my breath away with their powerful drama and erotic impact and are the best I have ever seen. The stretching of a naked woman on the rack is the epitome of achievement in a genre film such as this." It was super nice to read that. The rest of his email is equally complimentary. However, opinions differ, as they are wont to do. :) Jane von Detlefson (my great-grandmother's name) is my pseudonym for Red Feline productions. As Maleficarum is not a Red Feline production, I appear as Amy there. Which is the name my parents bequeathed me. Mila is Mila, she doesn't use a pseudonym. |
Name: | mstrerotic |
Jane, thank you for taking the time to describe your "rack" scene...Of all the instruments of torture, I always was thrilled by the rack, above all...it can be so very sensuous. Done slowly. The Inquisitor whispering in her ear, a shake of the head, then a raise of a finger and again the crank attached to the huge roller is turned a slow notch at a time...a grunt, a low moan...the gritting of teeth so as not to scream...then after a while, the adding of other implements, heated iron and long needles...also done slowly and in whispers...I'm glad to hear you've given your rack scenes the time they need. Very few adult movies or old movies do that..it's just a few turns of the wheel, then a fade out, the woman's arm's not even at full stretch. Also, how do I go about buying a dvd over the counter..I mean by simply sending a check or money order, without putting it on a credit card? |
Name: | Jane von Detlefson |
Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/dvdstore/ |
mstrerotic - If you send an email to Margot at dvdstore@redfeline.com , she'll work something out for you, we have various alternative methods of payment. In the rack scene that I directed in Le Marquis de la Croix, lots of nasty things happen to Mila, bastinado, whispering, lots o' stretchin' as well. You could safely say that I am a fan of the rack. And when we're done shooting the scenes, it makes a handy table and conversation piece! |
Name: | Sloth |
Is there no end to the wonders that occur on this forum - mrerotics makes posts without slamming everyone else - perhaps Jane has schooled him. Jane von Detlefson - yes, the rack has a variety of uses - I use mine as a coffee table in the living room and store my collection of Men's Adventure Magazines on it - needless to say that is quite a conversation starter. So this weekend I receive my latest MAM's win on eBay - that evening I walk in the living room and my better half is busily engaged in reading the interior medieval story - we begin our usual bantering back and forth and it ends up a conversation about our active days of restraint - as she is an expert on such matters I ask her what was the best restraint medium we ever used - what are the parameters she asks - I say the best combination of tight bondage, reasonable comfort and appearance - her answer was a bit surprising - gee, should I make this a quiz or a poll question? - Hasta manana Stay well all |
Name: | MeetThePryz |
This month's Attackers movies are out, and they're an example of how willing the company is to kill of their protagonists. SHKD460 is about a mother that is blackmailed and raped to protect her daughter. But like all such blackmail attempts, they soon involve the daughter regardless. Seeing no escape, the mother and daughter kill themselves together by stepping in to traffic. Pretty dark stuff. ATID193, which I was quite looking forward to, is one of their more violent movies, with 4 of the 5 female characters dead by the time the credits role. The daughter of a mob family is kidnapped, raped, and kept as a slave by the family's enemies. The kidnap victim's twin sister contacts a pair of detectives to rescue the sister. However, the victim is killed in the rescue attempt, and seeking revenge, the victim's mother and sister have the failed detectives captured and raped eventually strangling and killing one of them in front of the other's eyes. In a moment of forgiveness, the mother and daughter decide to spare the surviving detective, but the male mobsters that helped with the kidnapping strongly disagree, killing the last of the women except for the sole surviving detective. I really enjoyed this movie; it's essentially the 4th consecutive "Slave Detective" movie released in as many months, and features bondage, enslaved detectives, and hot girls in Cheongsam's (sic?) speaking Chinese. Next month's films look reasonable-- a few of interest surrounded a bunch of tame stuff, as is the Attackers norm. Slave Secretary looks to be its own series now, with the 2nd entry incoming, |
Name: | A Canadian |
MeetThePryz: Thanks for the update on the Attackers films. Although the death scenes don't mean anything to me, ATID-193 is one of the titles I will definitely want to see. For what it's worth, I hope JAV star Cocomi Sakura (also spelled Kokomi) shows up in some Attackers films at some point.
I have seen some of the stuff she has done for S1, such as SOE-639, and Cocomi definitely knows how to deliver a strong GIMP performance. I would love to see her in one of the Slave Detective movies. |
Name: | johnsmart |
Hey MAV. I'm eagerly awaiting your review of Maleficarum because you and I share the exact same love for AOH scenes. While I appreciate everybody's review so far on what I'm sure is just an outstanding flick, I am very eager to hear your take on it. Any idea when you will have a review? |
Name: | MAV |
@johnsmart-I'll AOH review Maleficarum once it's available for rent. Some of the early comments on the AOH whipping scenes have been really good so lookin forward to it! |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
MeetThePryz: the mother and daughter kill themselves together by stepping in to traffic. Pretty dark stuff.
Feh. Quick kills like that are no fun at all!
However, the victim is killed in the rescue attempt, and seeking revenge, the victim's mother and sister have the failed detectives captured and raped eventually strangling and killing one of them in front of the other's eyes.
In a moment of forgiveness, the mother and daughter decide to spare the surviving detective, but the male mobsters that helped with the kidnapping strongly disagree, killing the last of the women except for the sole surviving detective.
This sounds much more fun. Fantasy killing, like all forms of fantasy torture, should be slow, painful and humiliating. |
Name: | johnsmart |
@Mav: Sweet! You know, based on screencaps and the trailers, I think the movie is going to be an A++++++ for a sleeveless (or nude) AOH fan. I'm just waiting for your verification. :-) |
Name: | DHT |
Homepage URL: | http://www.tommymerry.com/film.html |
#19 |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
A Canadian and Rick - Heroone got his ZFX SOB3 yesterday afternoon by USPS snail-mail; surprise, surprise...it was still sealed in cellophane wrap and only thing used about it was indicated by a damaged cover. The disc was never used, not a scratch. Yes Rick, you're right, SOB3 has more suspense and dialogue besides a plausible plot for our GIMPers. It was like watching National Geographic's Lockup Abroad, where the female drug mule keeping yelling out loud: "I don't know Cocaine, what the Fuck you talking about, Cocaine, what Fucking Cocaine", etc., and ya know she know it over, game over; and with the progressive torture scenes of our drug mule would appeal to all viewers of fetish bondage, their targeted audience. At lease the jail cells look a lot more realistic than that old national guard dusty basement that is used by Kink.com in San Francisco. And yes, that girl in the tank top with the blue cap does look nice. I'll get another case cover for this disc and shelve it next to SOB4. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
DHT: Nice find on Number 19. Looks like an expensive production, and it had soooo much potential. Why is when filmmakers make horror films about serial killers they seemingly always get the bondage wrong? 2 girls, each with their hands tied in front, both cleave gagged and neither one of them can figure out how to take their gags off or untie each other? And of course, it's because her hands are tied in front of her that she is able to escape. How the heck did the guy make it up to 18 victims being so clueless? I also like how he drives a nail through the one girl's hand and she doesn't even scream. Don't worry, this won't hurt a bit. Apparently not. The other story with the hot girl with broken-down car was another huge letdown. She would have been such an ideal victim, and the setup was perfect. Why can't someone make a film that celebrates the joy of abduction, bondage and torture and not have the bad guys lose? Gawd, I need to make my own films! |
Name: | MeetThePryz |
jhlipton: I'm not really a huge fan of outright torture and gore in my porn, which is why I steer away from anything with harsh whipping scenes. I actually stopped coming to this forum for a while when so many pictures of Maleficirum (sic) were being posted. However, the scenes in ATID-193 were entirely appropriate, and the amount of build up to the fatal scenes made them feel quite meaningful without turning me off. I must admit, I have quite the "Bad End" fetish that American studios seem to steer clear of, unfortunately. I guess that's why I'm such a fan of Attackers, relative to the other JAV studios: they aren't afraid to make really rotten things happen to the lead girls. Every single entry of the Slave Island (21 films), Slave Teacher (6 films), and Slave Color (20 films) (dumb, poorly translated series name) series ends with one or several women facing nothing but a lifetime of sexual servitude, or worse. Too many of the other JAV companies shoe-horn in happy endings, or endings where "Oh, but they like it in the end", which I've always found rather insulting. |
Name: | A Canadian |
MeetThePryz wrote: I guess that's why I'm such a fan of Attackers, relative to the other JAV studios: they aren't afraid to make really rotten things happen to the lead girls. Every single entry of the Slave Island (21 films), Slave Teacher (6 films), and Slave Color (20 films) (dumb, poorly translated series name) series ends with one or several women facing nothing but a lifetime of sexual servitude, or worse. One of the things I like about Japanese porn producers -- and this applies to the best of the Attackers movies, but not only to Attackers -- is that they sometimes do a great job showing scenes of degradation, and women having their spirits broken in humiliating ways. The dog bowls in the Slave Island movies would be a good example. So would the scenes where a woman is forced to strip at gunpoint, or is blackmailed into stripping and submitting. This may speak to the concerns I have about Maleficarum. It's obvious the movie has scenes of torture, and I'm prepared to believe the whippings in Maleficarum are better than usual for Red Feline. But I'm still not convinced the movie will meet my test for good erotica. I guess I'll find out for sure when it becomes available to rent. |
Name: | MeetThePryz |
@ACanadian What are your favorite non-Attackers JAV studios, and particular series/films? My thoughts on some of the other ones: Soft On Demand (SOD): Points for originality, some good bondage films (stocks) Hibino: Mostly bad. Hate that their investigator series always has a "drugged and loving it" ending, as it ruins the suspense. Sadistic Village: Some interesting stuff. IEnergy: I don't recall much of their stuff being good. Moodyz: Dream Gakuen is good, but their stuff isn't particularly dark. Giga: A bunch of crappy super heroine films with bad endings, but overall pretty tame and disappointing. |
Name: | John Galt |
Ralphus: Thanks for the quick review of The Skin I Live In, even if you did NOT include naughty pictures. I am intrigued and I will most definitely check it out. In the meantime, for a glimpse at some of the naughty bits, check out the Upcoming Nude Scenes website, which has links to download the clips involving nudity, with the warning that they include (gasp) nonconsensual sex. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/yuma-5.jpg |
MeetThePryz wrote: What are your favorite non-Attackers JAV studios, and particular series/films? It's probably best for me to point to some individual films that I have liked, as I would agree that most of the JAV producers are hit and miss (I would include Attackers in that assessment). Here's a quick list:
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Name: | mstrerotic |
I would love to make a suggestion to Amy and her wonderfully talented group who produce those great dvd's we all enjoy. I think instead of the "Witch's scenarios" which I think might have run their corses, I would love her to direct a scenario that would combine modern times with the medieval. A captured female spy, taken to a hidden European castle for interrogation. The castle has been modernized. But the evil villan has left the dungeons and torture chamber as they were in medieval times. The torture instruments in working order...she is taken down into the dungeon and shown the torture chamber...the cross..the whips..the rack, told she would experience all these if she did not "talk"...could be a wonderful dvd if directed by Amy with her usual flare for excitng torture scenes. I hope she would agree. |
Name: | Bill K. |
Mstrerotic you said: "I think instead of the "Witch's scenarios" which I think might have run their corses" I disagree with you wholeheartedly for witch scenarios will never run their course because medieval dungeon style torture and bats and all that goes with it is a witchcraft scenario. One is the reason for the other to be and erotically be enjoyed. The Maleficarum bats scene could have been 700 yrs, 400 yrs, 100 yrs ago or today. Today's bad guys torture devices and methods are not has nearly as erotically enjoyable to me as the church's medieval way were or are. I think that Red Feline, JJ and Jane could save a lot of money by producing/making their next Maleficarum type movie a modern version but it's up to them just so long as please they do another one. Bill K. |
Name: | Jane von Detlefson |
Homepage URL: | http://movies.redfeline.com |
mstrerotic - Are you trying to butter me up? It's a good scenario.
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Name: | D. Santorum |
E-mail address: | dsantorum@inbox.com |
Greetings all, Long-time occasional lurker, first-time poster. I'd like to offer up my view on one particular scene in a Red Feline video I recently rented: "The Via Crucis of Camille - Crux 6&7." Like "Crux 1&2" (reviewed by MAV some time ago), Crux 6&7 are two films that are very similar to one another, and furthermore they are very similar to Crux 1&2. The Via Crucis series contains material that dates from before the company's first official release (Red Feline on the Cross), and as I understand it, originally there no intention of releasing these films to the public. I don't care to write a review of the whole thing - in fact, I basically skipped over substantial portions of both films. I was mainly interested in the crucifixion scenes that appear at the end of each film. The scene that ends Crux 7 has affected me in such a way that I felt compelled to post here. No, I'm not another mindless promoter of Red Feline Crux films. I actually have had a long, dissatisfied, and unpleasant customer relationship with this company. Several years ago I swore I'd never give these people another damn dime. But a few months ago, I discovered some film stills (and later the trailers) for Maleficarum. My reaction: "Holy shit, these guys have come a long way." Then I watched the first couple of interviews with Amy, which sent me right over the damn edge. It was time to forgive and forget. I ordered the Maleficarum DVD and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. And then I couldn't help poking around the website, just to see what's new. Now, about that crux scene I wanted to talk about. Camille is suspended on a T cross, and her feet get "nailed" next to one another at the base. It's worth noting that she performs a delightful little dance while her feet are being nailed. But it's only after the bad guy has left the scene, leaving Camille alone to await her demise, that things get really, really interesting. For one thing, the scene subtly shifts into slow motion. Jane handled the editing on the Via Crucix films in getting them ready for release, so I dropped her a line asking her about this. In her own words: "For me it makes the impact of the suffering more like the eternity that it is for the person suffering, and makes the viewing of such more intimate." Well put, and I could not agree more. Camille alternates between seemingly calm stillness, and struggling as if she's trying to find some way of lessening the discomfort while she waits. As she struggles, her breasts (natural and utterly spectacular) slowly bounce and bob around for our viewing pleasure. At one point, Camille becomes still and stares directly into the camera. This is a bit disturbing - have you ever had a dying naked girl on a cross stare right into your eyes? She's not even pleading. She knows it's much too late for that. She is just watching you, watch her. The visual aspects of the scene are accompanied by eerie, droning music, which Jane developed by culling together sounds from a variety of sources. It enhances the scene beautifully. This scene is an 8-minute hallucinogenic wet dream. As a representation of the erotic possibilities of female physical suffering, it is one of the most powerful things I've ever seen. It's not just something to get off on (though it can provide that function), it's a gorgeous work of art. A goddamned masterpiece. That's all I wanted to say, for now. Hope you found it interesting. D. Santorum
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Name: | A Canadian |
mstrerotic wrote: A captured female spy, taken to a hidden European castle for interrogation. I like the sounds of that. I bet Eda could come up with a great screenplay for such a film. |
Name: | Badger |
As I continue to admire and appreciate the incredibly high quality of "Maleficarum", I continue to look forward to the day that such good work can be put into a modern-day story -- something along the lines of "Desperate Hours" but with some graphic non-consensual sex added... (and added and added, etc.) Speaking of in-home hostage taking, it seems like the Brits get it more than we do. But alas, some of the most intriguing works don't seem to make it to the West side of the pond. I have heard that "The Great Ecstasy of Robert Carmichael" is a One-Scene Wonder but that scene looks like the ball-gag scene in "A Clockwork Orange" on steroids. Now I come across "Cherry Tree Lane" in IMDB and it looks to be right up my alley, except that I don't speak Region 3 Format. Jane, please come to my rescue. |
Name: | Bill K. |
Say GIMPers I came across this Spanish horse torture site a while back, you may or may not know about, (I forgot when and where found it) that may be of interest to you guys: http://ponytorture.free.fr/movies/index.html It has good number of short Spanish Horse torture videos which I only look at a few so I do not know how good/bad GIMP quality they are but it free. Bill K. |
Name: | MAV |
Homepage URL: | http://www.darkfetishnet.com/group/333/ |
My girl gave me blue balls last night, so decided to BUY (not rent) Maleficarum and check out the AOH whipping scenes since the caps looked good. Here's my review only of those scenes: Mila's scene: Scene in total is about 6 minutes. I love that she was defiant and didnt wanna scream at first, and that she threw her head back as the lash hit, occasionally almost biting her arm. Also liked that her moans became more vocal as she's whipped more and put in more pain. I know some GIMPers said they're not fans, but I like her curves and darker skin. Jane's scene: Scene is about 5 minutes in total. Her reactions are more vocal and more animated, especially as she jerked her body more to the lashes which I liked. Jane is not defiant at the beginning like Mila was and is basically in pain throughout her scene. I love her athletic body, especially as she twirls herself more being off the ground (Mila was barely above the ground). Both Mila and Jane looked great strung up naked in tight AOH. Sound effects (?) were real good. For both girls, I liked their reactions and that they were oiled/sweated up which worked well with the lighting. I like seeing the front angle more in these types of scenes so wouldve liked to see that more than the 50/50 split with the back angle. I wouldve also liked some hairpulling, but that didn't happen. I also like that for these 2 scenes the girls were not as bloody as has been the case in some other RF clips. Overall, as an AOH whipping (only) scene, I give this one an 8.5/10. Great work Jane and Mila! Hope you guys do more AOH in the future, maybe with bellypunching and electro adding to the whipping ;> |
Name: | Eda |
E-mail address: | asiangirl342333@yahoo.com |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/special/stories/asiangirl342333/ |
A Canadian wrote, in response to mstrerotic's post: "A captured female spy, taken to a hidden European castle for interrogation." I like the sound of that. I bet Eda could come up with a great screenplay for such a film. Many of my stories involve captured female spies taken to medieval-type dungeons of various sorts for interrogation. One story that is set in a futuristic castle is THE FORTRESS. And it doesn't involve just one captured female spy, but four. The dungeons in my other stories aren't in castles, but how much does it really matter what is outside the dungeon? Isn't what is inside it -- and who -- more important? Ralphus was recently kind enough to read and comment in the forum on my story PLAYING THE GAME (Parts I and II). As a result, readership of that story skyrocketed (since we all try to do whatever Ralphus does). I'd love it if those of you who read the story in response to Ralphus's review, but have not yet let me know privately your thoughts about it would let me know, either right in the forum or privately to my e-mail. Thanks. |
Name: | Mstrerotic |
I would love to know if Amy actually enjoys (if not enjoys) then is thrilled by being flogged, with AOH, spread eagled. Or is it just a "job" to her to make a good film...How far is she or Mia stretched on the rack...to they go beyond full stretch until they can't stand the pain any longer, or is that just until it looks good to the viewer. Whick torture thrills her the most...or do they all go just far enough to look good and just before the pain really begins. In another words, would Amy look forward to being tortured on the rack, or feel the sting of the lash across her back in a private, no workplace, session...just a curious thought. |
Name: | Eda |
E-mail address: | asiangirl342333@yahoo.com |
Recent posts by mstrerotic and Bill K. suggest a readers' poll: If you were given the chance to watch one excellent GIMP film -- either one involving a captured female witch or one involving a captured female spy -- which would you choose and why? My own answer, not surprising to those who have read any of my stories, is that I would prefer the captured female spy. The differences that I see between the two types of stories are in their balance and their psychology. A captured witch is absolutely helpless. She stands accused, will be convicted and executed, and there is nothing that she can do about it. She has nothing that her torturers want or need from her. She will simply be tortured until she confesses, and, if she does not confess as quickly as her torturers like, the mark of the devil will be found (or placed) on her, so that her body will have confessed what her tongue has not. [Gee, this sounds pretty good!! Why am I picking the other?] She has no control at all over her situation. Her mental state, from the beginning of her ordeal, is that she has nothing to offer her torturers and is doomed. A captured spy, on the other hand, while facing all of the same ordeals as the captured witch (and, ultimately, very likely facing the same fate) does have at least a bit of control over her situation. She has information that her interrogators want, even need, from her. They must keep her alive until she gives it to them. While certainly the "balance" in this situation is heavily weighted to the side of the interrogators, the captive spy at least knows that she will remain alive if she does not reveal this information. And she also has her cause. She does not want to betray her comrades to that cause to suffer the same fate as she. So she has several reasons to try to resist. But as the tortures become more severe, she begins to question why she is holding out and suffering to protect others who are, in large part, responsible for getting her into the dire situation in which she finds herself. She begins to wonder why she should continue to suffer such extraordinary pain and possible (likely) disfigurement for their benefit, instead of thinking of herself, telling what she knows, leaving the others to their own fates and being rewarded (she hopes) with a less painful death. So the dynamic of the captured spy scenario -- with these added elements of "balance" and changing psychology -- tips the scales for me in favor of the captured spy film. Which, of course, is not to say that films about captured witches aren't wonderful, too. While some of us prefer chocolate to strawberry ice cream, and others the opposite, few of us would turn down either if offered. |
Name: | mstrerotic |
I agree with Eda...I think half the excitement in watching these films is the look on the female spy's face as she is shown all the torments of the torture chamber. The evil Inquisitor explaing how each torture device and instrument works...asking her the same questions, over and over. Watching the nervousness in her face as she continues to try to keep her courage up even while being forced to look at each device. Then added bit...being forced by the Inquisitor to choose which instrument of torture she will experience first...the rack, the lash..the heated coals? Interrogation is the most exciting. While a witch is good, it's just straight torture |
Name: | Bill K. |
Eda / guys do you really think the KGB, CIA, 007's BBS, Iran secret police, etc, etc had/has Maleficarum type dungeons and tortured spy(s) by rack, Spanish horse, whips and other Maleficarum church type methods? Dungeon means dark underground cell or prison so yes all bad/good guys do have them but it's the methods I was talking about. Spies are tortured by total different methods than witches are, so what I was saying I prefer witch/church methods. Bill K. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/2.jpg |
mstrerotic wrote: I agree with Eda. Me too. I've had a long-time bias for female spies that probably dates back to the days when Eda was scribbling limericks on bathroom walls. Nonetheless, my already established bias was reinforced in 2011 -- most of the best films I saw this year involved spies or detectives (I will probably repeat this point later in the month when Master Ralphus comes calling for the year in review). My bias probably has less to do with the psychological factors Eda mentioned and more to do with the fact that female spies are often dressed in sexy attire. One of my first JAV films and an early favorite was Insult Raped Female Avenger with the truly fine Ayana Nanjou. Without doubt, her sexy super-spy attire contributed to the film's success:
Industrial Spy, with Jyuri Wakabayashi, wasn't quite as good but Jyuri looked pretty hot in her spy attire. Flash forward to 2011, and the tight black panther suit seems to be the preferred attire for many spies, such as Yuma Asami and Sora Aoi. It's a look that definitely works.
And let's not forget that pic of Ren Miyamura in IPTD-802.
I would take Ayana, Jyuri, Yuma and the others over Broom Hilda any day. Spies all the way. This is shaping up to be an interesting discussion. Let's hope it becomes an official poll or GIMP question. |
Name: | John Galt |
Eda: Hmm. You make several interesting points, and I agree that the psychological aspect of the situation is extremely important. However, I personally would not have a preference necessarily between a witch torture scene and a spy torture scene. A spy torture scene also has the advantage of modern torture methods and equipment as well as medieval methods, but then it is not too much of a stretch in modern America picturing some uber-religious group torturing the "devil" out of some unbeliever. And although Bill K makes a good point, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that some modern day organization might not have medieval torture equipment on hand. Outside of some mad genius super-criminal in a James Bond movie, though, it is unlikely a modern organization would be headquartered in a stone castle with a dank basement dungeon. The basic problem is that I cannot identify with religious crazies any more than I can identify with patriotic crazies, and for maximum enjoyment I like to be able to identify in some way, even if it is small. In fact, pure sadism (as opposed to, say, sexual sado-masochism) doesn't do that much for me. That probably explains why I'm more of a rape guy than a torture guy when it comes to fantasy entertainment. What I like about suspensions or rack scenes is the visual: naked female body stretched, arched, flexed, muscles strained, perspiration beading up and running down, dangling feet, twitching toes, and so forth. For me, inflicting pain is just a means to an end, not the end in itself. That's one reason I don't care about how much pain Jane put herself through in reality for Maleficarum, as long as it looked awesome in fantasy. Mstrerotic (and I am sure many others) and I differ in that respect. (That's not to take away from what Jane and Mila went through, which I recognize was WAY "above and beyond," and that if they had not given that extra effort, the movie would not have been as incredible.) So either witch or spy scenarios would do me fine as long as I get my visuals. And dark, dank stone dungeons do have an undeniable ambience all by themselves. As long as there's good lighting. And so it should come also as no surprise that I don't like strawberry ice cream, and if I am going to pay the price in caloric intake, I would turn it down, preferring instead to wait for chocolate. |
Name: | mstrerotic |
To Bill K. Yes, moderns do have different torture methods..but wouldn't it be exciting if a female spy, to her surprise and shock, was led down from a modernized chateau or castle to a dank, medievally designed torture chamber, with all the old style equipment kept intact. She would see the rack..the strappado, the cross...lit braziers, hot coals and irons...I think this would be most exciting to us all to watch this unfold. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Looks like I better turn this into an official GIMP Poll before everyone on the board has given their answers on it. Very good question, BTW. So without further adieu... GIMP POLL: I think both sides have given wonderful justifications as to why they prefer their selection, and I can't really argue with any of them. Since it was Maleficarum, the ultimate captured witch production, that led to this discussion, I'll compare it to another Red Feline production, Agent X, about a captured spy. Now even though I liked both films, there's no question I prefer Maleficarum in this case. The one advantage to a torture film set in modern times is you do have access to certain advanced interrogation techniques, including one of my favorites, electric shock. This was one of the torments that Jane went through in the latter film that would have been impossible in the witch film. On the other hand, Maleficarum makes good use of another punishment that always rings my bell - fire torture, with its heated irons, spit roasting and burning at the stake. Nobody ever burns women at the stake in these "civilized" times. I guess it's just too much work. What a shame, because the payoff is worth it. Also, when I worded the poll question, I made sure to add the word "accused" to female witch, since it's highly unlikely any of the women back in the olden days were actual witches, which in my mind, makes them the preferred victim. To torture someone who is totally innocent, whose only crime is being a woman (preferably an attractive one) is a pretty exciting scenario for me. A female spy...well, she's probably somewhere she shouldn't be and frankly, if she gets caught, she has it coming. The chance of being tortured is a definite possibility in this line of work, and yet she chose to pursue this as her career. She knows the risks. And therefore she's not totally blameless. Definitely not as innocent as the accused witch. And that makes a difference to me. All right, guys. Perfect time to come out and tell us what YOU think. You not only get to experience the joy of sharing with others, you'll also help rack up some points for your side. The score right now is Spies 3, Witches 2. |
Name: | Bill K. |
Here is a medieval torture method device I would like to see in the next (Spy or witch) Red Feline movie: http://www.stakedamsels.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6012&mode=view, the hot seat. I thinking one of the remaining wood makeable commonly used methods that was not done in Maleficarum. GIMPers want different torture methods you like to see in next Red Feline movie, spy or witch ever? Jane, how about you, some different method you like too? Bill K. |
Name: | YikYakker |
Homepage URL: | http://regretfulmorning.com/2010/07/31-barbies-in-inappropriate-positions/?utm_source=scribol&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol |
GIMP Poll: Witch, spy, private eye? My answer will have to come completely off the top of my head, since I like them all. But right now I'm feeling peckish for a good female-spy-gets-captured-and-tortured scenario. Maybe it's because of those tantalizing pics that A Canadian posted, or because I've just seen the ultimate witch-torture movie in Maleficarum, or the fact that it's been so long since I've seen any scenario of that type in movies or on TV. (Can't count Nikita, all I've seen is the commercials). But Eda wrote: A captured witch is absolutely helpless. I think that's the essence of it - I like a scenario in which a powerful, competent - and well-dressed - woman jumps into the fray with confidence and bravado, only to find that she's in over her head this time. I also like msterotics's idea of treating the GIMP to a medieval torture treatment, one she's never experienced before and therefore doesn't know what to expect or how to prepare herself mentally for the ordeal. "Go ahead, do your worst, I've done it all....waterboarding, electro-shock, giant butt plugs...Uh, wait, is that really a 17th-century torture rack?" ---------- D. Santorum: Welcome to the perv nest, and what an opening post! After reading your description of Camille's crucifixion, I had to take a cold shower. But seriously, that was a nice piece of writing and the pic is among my favorites from the Red Feline portfolio. I look forward to hearing more from you. ---------- Speaking of pics, A Canadian: Well, now you've done it. That image of Sakura is too much. Actually wiped out the memory of that dark-haired dream girl that I was babbling about the other day...you know, whatshername?
Jane and Margot: Thanks for the explanation of the absence of clothes-ripping in Maleficarum. That scene makes perfect sense to me now. And my view of the movie is confirmed: it's more than just a GIMP flick, it is a well-researched, carefully-crafted example of creative non-fiction. Still, I'm really looking forward to seeing Mila get that fabulous red gown torn from her succulent body in Le Marquis De La Croix. Margot: I can't stop slavering over that picture of you from the proto-RF days. In particular, I like the way that white shred of clothing is hanging precariously at the level of that sweet spot just above your lady part. I just wish we could see your face, too. Do you have this picture from another angle? ;) ---------- Homepage URL: Guess you could call this throwing another GIMP on the Barbie. |
Name: | Lynn |
E-mail address: | l_beria@yahoo.com |
I vote for a spy scenario next time. Not because I necessarily would find that more interesting (though I must admit spy torture is the main fantasy of mine - basically because I can imagine it happening to me "real world") but because it will be something different. While I agree that medieval (witch) torture will never "run its course" as such, because the fascination will always be there; a series of sequels, which are essentially remakes of the same story, particularly if they are also done with the same cast, do wear out for most people after a while. As for whether "ancient" tortures are visually more interesting than "modern" tortures, I suspect that the old truism "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" applies, so to each his/her own. In that connection I would only also add that while electro-torture is indeed less "photogenic" in its own right than a whipping, the really interesting sight is not the instrument, but the reaction of the nude body to it - and that is up to the actresses. But having done a FANTASTIC job on a medieval (well, actually renaissance - but why quibble about details) story - and it appears, with another one: the " Marquis..." coming out, I would recommend the next one to be a modern story. For a chance to show something different.
PS: I would also like to add my two cents worth to the comment about the "witch" victim being "innocent" and in a completely hopeless situation, while the modern spy would be aware of the risks and therefore could be said to be "asking for it". First, which of those two situations is more "interesting" is again depend on each persons interest. I for one find the spy's psychological dilemma (the spy does have a choice, and chooses to suffer...) more interesting. But, for those of you who want a truly innocent victim, there are modern scenario options for that too - the woman dragged down into the interrogation cell may be an innocent bystander who was captured due to mistaken identity - in which case she would not know the information needed to save herself. Or, someone else who has been subjected to torture, could not take it any more and had to give a name... any name... implicated her; and now she is being asked names... and if she cannot take it any more, what other innocent person will be next, next? |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://s1s1s1.com/works/-/detail/=/cid=soe681/ |
YikYakker wrote: Well, now you've done it. That image of Sakura is too much. Actually wiped out the memory of that dark-haired dream girl that I was babbling about the other day...you know, whatshername? I'm not sure everyone would have caught this, but Cocomi Sakura is the middle spy in the picture I posted earlier today in my url. Here's the pictre, for those of you who didn't open my link:
For those who care, the other two women in the picture are Ruri Saijo, left, and Anri Okita. The still is from SOE-681, a new S1 movie that I would expect will be included in Video Mayhem's releases for December. |
Name: | Thawkinsworth |
E-mail address: | Thawkinsworth@yahoo.com |
Lynn, I am right with on every point you make. Spy torture is the win/win. It can be filmed in a modern or ancient time setting, and the woman knew from the beginning this is where she could have ended up, thus adding to the build up before the interesting stuff begins. The torture can be partially for interrogation purposes, and also as punishment for crimes committed against the state/crown, whatever. Its just hot from every angle. |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
My fellow GIMPers, that picture of the day of Mila Joya in Maleficarum suffering "the little death", term used for flogging prior to crucifixion, this scene did not go into any great details of the leather whips made by our prop maker Jane Von D. She choose many different types of leather, hard to soft, which she braided into the tongs/tails of a flogger that would give the best cinemagraphic results when used against human flesh. In her blog, Jane explained the F/X for this scene, using a whip with blood coloring on the tongs to make it seem like the tongs were stripe'n Mila's body with bleeding cuts. The Torturer/Executioner played by Eric was now into the punishing mode and not torturing our Mila for confession or information. The punishing whip was like the Roman Flagellum, it cuts, it has embeded broken glass, sharp metal, hooks, etc. to do the most damage to human flesh. Even the Roman stopped at thirty nine lashes, they had have something, preferably a live person, man or woman, to be cruxified after the "little Death". And that's the bottom line, for the whip made by our Jane to replicate immediate bleed on each stroke with that whip... poor Francisca! |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Please forgive Heroone, he is halfway into fresh bottle of good Remy Martin, anywhoo, my fellow GIMPers: a Canadian, Lynn, YikYakker, etc. - all your suggestion are good and validate, spy stories like the "Man call Intrepid" with Barbara 'Seagull' Hershey or "Fall from Grace", with Tara Fitzgerald as spies being tortured by SS officers in WWII TV movies; in the latter ya don't see the flogging, only her naked unconscious body hanging AOH from a beam, but ya do see her half naked on a torture table covered in welts having her toes nails being pulled off... Big Heckkk, these are mainstream TV movies that are very GIMPy. Our ole RF friends are fielding ideas for a Mainstream Movie that gonna have Gimpy detail...these are only rumours on Heroone's part...hope it be Sooo. Just hope for the best that it's gonna be TBA in the Spring... Ya know I'm not too into Fetish Bondage, but do like movies that are graphically into WSIMs like Maleficarum, etc. And I am looking towards the release of the Marquis de la Crux and the other movie written and directed by our Jane, under her given name. |
Name: | Matt |
Poll Question: Spy, without question. A piece set in more modern times would be a nice change from chasing witches in the Inquisition or dealing with someone accused of plotting against a King (or Queen-such as Elizabeth I, who had no qualms about throwing people on the rack to safeguard her throne). It should be noted that the Gestapo in Hitler's Germany used several castles as interrogation facilities, and Colditz Castle was used as a POW prison for escape risks. The East German Stasi also used a couple of castles for interrogating (and executing) "Enemies of the State" when those people absolutely had to "disappear." The KGB's predecessor agency also used the same castles for this purpose when East Germany was under direct Soviet military rule after the war. Though I'd also add in a third option besides the witch or spy if you don't mind: POW. A piece set in WW II (Far East), Vietnam, or 1991 Iraq would also be worth seeing, IMHO. |
Name: | Dangerous Dave |
Gimp Poll: Put me down for the captured spy scenerio over the witch. Eda summed it up pretty good. But I would also throw in the chance that the female spy is captured wearing some tight, leather outfit. Which would then be slowly, or quickly removed leaving her naked and exposed. I like that the spy has probably been through extensive anti torture training and see how long she can hold out. |
Name: | mr bush |
Spy scene hands down. Victim or victims can be dolled up in modern day expensive clothes, undies, jewelery etc. These items removed, ripped off or forced off is the start of taking the victim down, before the torture starts. Let the creative games begin. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Hi everybody! I just discovered this forum yesterday and all I can say is WOW! I have spent most of yesterday and last night reading the stories of Eda Chang and she has become my favorite author hands down. Please keep writing Eda! Anyway back to the question of spies or witches. I have to go with spies. You can only do so much with witches. Spies on the other hand have so many more possibilities. They can be tortured all over the world in a limitless variety of situations. Plus in the modern world there are so many new and wonderful torture techniques available. Electricity is a big one along with drugs to enhance and stimulate the hapless victims physical and mental state as she is being tortured and medical techniques to keep the victim alive and suffering longer. Thanks for this forum and I hope my input was of interest. Yuji |
Name: | MAV |
Homepage URL: | http://www.darkfetishnet.com/group/333/ |
On the latest GIMP poll: I'm sure those who know me and my customs won't be shocked, but captured spy definitely over captured accused witch for several reasons. First and foremost, the accused witch is usually innocent and usually crying/weeping and not really defiant. The accused witch just has to say "yes I'm a witch" at some point. The captured spy is not innocent and will usually be defiant/tough as she's asked several questions. Second, as the lil guy mentioned, witches are only subjected to old forms of torture-the rack, the whip, burning. Spies can be tortured with everything under the sun-all the witch torture tools plus things like electro-shock, choking, knives/swords, and of course, slaps/punches/knees/kicks. There are probably more reasons but those are the main ones that come to mind. |
Name: | YikYakker |
A Canadian: Wow. Three chicks in skintight, black...what is that stuff - leather? Vinyl? Latex? Whatever it is, it really makes women who wear it look hot. I'm wondering what the womenfolk here think about that look. Have you tried it? Would you try it? How does it feel - comfortable, sweaty, flexible? Inquiring minds want to know. I kinda wish Cocomi Sakura had dark hair, like the others in the picture. Well, what can you do. She's still cute/sexy, as is the girl to the right of her, Anri Okita. I may have to look this one up. ---------- While I've cast my vote for the modern-day spy chick scenario, let's not presume that all witch stories have to relate to Western civilization of centuries ago. Beliefs about the power of "magic" still prevail in other cultures to this very day. I've read stories about cases involving official, criminal accusations against practitioners of such beliefs as Santeria and voodoo. We may scoff, but in some cultures there are people who take this stuff quite seriously, and believe that a particular person or group has the capability to use curses or dark magic to inflict harm upon or enslave others. ---------- This comes belatedly, but I appreciate the quick action taken by Ralphus and John Galt in response to my question about The Skin I Live In. I still have not made up my mind about this movie, but the two lead GIMPs are attractive and it does look interesting. ---------- Yuji Kotorida: Welcome to the forum; it's always a pleasure to have someone new join in. You wrote: I have spent most of yesterday and last night reading the stories of Eda Chang and she has become my favorite author hands down. What I like most about Eda's stories is that she does an excellent job of taking us inside the mind of the victim, something that is not as easily accomplished in film or video. That, and the fact that her storylines are well thought-out, with surprise twists and turns. I'm currently engrossed in Playing the Game, having finished Part 1 and looking forward to starting Part 2. Very nicely done, and I highly recommend it. ---------- Eda: Besides including your doppelganger, Eda Chang, as a character in your stories, you also inserted a character named Mira into Playing the Game. Seems like I've read another one of your pieces involving Eda and Mira. I don't recall the title but what I liked about that one was that you presented four different - but connected - victims with distinct personalities. That was a very suspenseful tale, and if I could remember the title, I would also recommend that one to those interested in GIMP fiction. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
How does one post images here? |
Name: | Eda |
E-mail address: | asiangirl342333@yahoo.com |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/special/stories/asiangirl342333/ |
Welcome to Yuji Kotorida and thank you for your kind words, which are much appreciated. Thank you also to Yik Yakker for your kind words. In response to your question, Mira also appears as a character in my story THE PYRAMID. For your information, the names of at least three of the characters in THE PYRAMID, including Mira, are the names of real persons into these kinds of stories who gave me permission to use their names. The same is true of the name of the lead character in my story MIDDLE EAST INTRIGUE. Sadly, I have lost touch with them over the last few years. They would have fit into this group very nicely. |
Name: | johnsmart |
MAV: I know that you really don't care, but I wanted to tell you that I read your review of the single scene of Maleficarum and I appreciate it. Thank you. I can't wait to read more of your review. I would like to ask some questions about the quality of the video, but not the content. How pixelated/grainy is it? Is it so dark that you can't see details in skin? What is the quality of the video? Is it high definition, standard definition? If you downloaded the video, what is the size of the video on the screen? you know is it 640x460, 1280x1020, etc. If you got the physical dvd, how does the picture quality of the dvd look? The reason I ask is I've seen a few of the older Red Feline videos and I have memories of them being 640x480 grainy videos that were so dark you could barely see anything. Thanks in advance. |
Name: | johnsmart |
I would like to register a vote for the latest poll about a witch or a spy movie. My choice is "either is fine" and the reason why is because the story to me makes no difference as long as I like the content and the quality of the video. I am an AOH fan and I pretty much don't care about anything else. So, whether the damsel is a witch, a spy, a stripper, or a housewife from the 1940s doesn't matter to me as long as she spends 99% of the movie bound AOH in sleeveless clothing or nude. Not to mention, I am sick to death of watching videos that are 640x480 of dark, grainy, low resolution videos. I'm ready for everybody to make super high resolution videos that look professionally done and not like they were captured with a broken iPhone. That being said, I would appreciate a good story. But in my experience of almost all the commercial bdsm movies I've seen, the acting has pretty much always left a lot to be desired. It's one of the reasons I prefer mainstream movies because mainstream movies usually have people who can act and that makes me feel more like I'm there. I pretty much swore off bdsm movies after hear one too many damsels making "pain noises" that sounded more like an "Ooo" rather an an "AHHHH!" if you know what I mean. If you made me choose one or the other, however, I would request a spy movie next because we just got Maleficarum, so some variety would be nice. |
Name: | MAV |
@johnsmart-the resolution for Maleficarum (download version) is 720x480 and not grainy, as well as very well-defined (25.8Mbps bit rate), so probably hi-def, but I dont know how thats defined. It's fine enough that I can see both Mila (some) and Jane's ribs when they're strung up AOH, which I really like. It is not grainy at all like their older movies. The special player you have to use has a full-screen feature. |
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Name: | A Canadian |
Yuji Kotorida wrote: How does one post images here? Yuji, if you post your e-mail address, I can send you instructions on how to post images. It's actually quite simple. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Hey A Canadian, I included my e-mail in this post. Your instructions on how to post images here would be most welcome. Yuji |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Hello my fellow GIMPers, I saw that RF Reine Margot C. posted when I decided to enter this forum, and I'm gonna read her comments later, (in between them lines) with hopes of hints of what our Jane and Jan Jac of ole past RF have in them rumour of a new project (a mainstream movie with enough GIMPy to stretch that envelope of current South Americano TV, ie, Como, Hispania, etc.) from their current (Bolivian) film companies. Ya all got to admit, it's different and can be Cable TV-MA...for us all in El Norte... Concerning this poll of witches or spies...Espionage is the most interesting in the last fifty years of commercial TV, let alone them iMob World War two movies. To Heroones' memories in his retirement years, there are way too many, from Carve Her Name With Passion, Oddette, High Pockets, etc. many 1941 to 1953 post WWII movies that are very GIMPy, and most of them only hinted at the later documented tortures them women had endured... Some of which make our Jane's suffering in Maleficarum looks very mild in comparison, one of the documented interrogation that was translated is very sadistic in its description of a partisan courier after suffering repeated (Jesus, I thought this only happen, now in our time frame) multiple rapes, floggings, had her vagina torn out by god only knows... and she survived to be witness in a war crimes tribunal. Maybe some you GIMPer can help me out, especially ya all with good search engines... Heroone in 1956 maybe, saw an old B&W TV (he thinks) CBS Playhouse 90 broadcast about a woman spy or partisan courier caught and interrogated... In the torture scene, she was being whipped, she was naked from the waist up, with a blanket cover her from the waist down...very different from Heroone's recall of her tied to a chair in an earlier scene, wearing a blouse and darker skirt...I remember, she had a Mary Tyler Moore 1950 style pageboy hair doo... I do not remember her having any whip marks on her back, other the smack sound to a whipping ... a few screams, lots of her crying, etc and the scene with a lots of questioning... The scene lasted a long time... Heck, Heroone was ten years old... As our Francisca said in Maleficarum: "Ya!!!". Go with the "Espionage" theme... But remember the Monster of Lyon's only used brutal flogging to amuse his subordinates, his favorite torture device was the ole French bathtub filled with cold water, and the U.S. Army field (18 painful Volts on one crank) telephone. Ohhh yes, things have not changed, Herr Klaus Barbie used "waterboarding" too, and yes before using electricity... |
Name: | A Canadian |
Yuji: I have sent you the details on how to post images. I included a link to a website that will allow you to test your creations before you actually post them here. I hope the instructions are clear. Let me know if there are any questions. |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.net |
Big Sorry me fellow GIMP, maybe Heroone is not using the Internet correct or big brother is looking over his balls and trying to trip him up... And I know that ain't true, my "Asian Johnny won't save me in a cock fight know How"... Somehow my previous posting got convoluted with today's stuff from foghorn Heroone here in San Francisco. What I be a say'n is you folks who hope to see more GIMPy espionage dramas may be very disappointed. Torture by today's standards can be way outpaced by what ya see in Maleficarum. Even the interrogation of a Nazi's prisoner (if they had more than one captive) after a big show of utter brutality for those in fear, it was quickly and mercifully followed by a 7.65mm bullet to the captives head. What was to follow for them others, I hope was very quick... Ancient Roman with its ideas of how to rule the empire. Even Attilla, the Scourge and Genghis Khan understood, them Romans said it all with torture followed by brutal crucifixion of all who opposed them...We the Romans, kill anyone who oppose us and we do it for pleasure, for fun! |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Movies I'd love to see...... Inspired by Eda Chang Is this type of post acceptable here? |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.net |
Ralphus, it's a-ok to delete what I'm about to say if ya think it will hurt this, our forum. Rick M., them stories portrayed in your Zfx Video, South of the Border series; of those stories, how many are not fiction but based on something related as truth from a victim of a corrupt law enforcement agency in Mexico. My second cousin by marriage was repeatedly raped and as was her female friend and both were flogged naked, with a rubber hose during their interrogation, in a south of the border police facility because they were related to a independent drug dealer who was later killed by the drug cartel in 2009. This all happen in 2008, and never talked about in my family because of many death threats and that side of the family still have way too many relatives living south of our California Border. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Thanks to all for the help on posting images. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Yuji Kotorida wrote: Is this type of post acceptable here? In my opinion, it's definitely acceptable. That's one hot movie poster. It's interesting to imagine Eda having her own movie production company. Could Eda ultimately become the John Hughes of the GIMP world? |
Name: | Sloth |
Poll question - throwing my lot in with the witch crowd - that should come as no shock what with my passion for the medieval stories with sweet young things in tattered duds under the control of demented noblemen featured inside my MAMS collection - but even more telling of my character flaws, I just can't wipe out the visual of a spandex clad chick ending up in a cold, sterile, clinical environment that would be modern torment - probably just seen too many like that produced by our Japanese friends and it just doesn't float the boat - yeah, give me an innocent young wench in 17th century Germany being put through the paces ala "Poor Cecily" every time. Stay well all |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http:/sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
I ran across these and thought I would share. The rest are on my tumblr. Thanks for the kind comment A Canadian. I agree. It would be awesome if Eda Chang had a movie production company! |
Name: | Bill K. |
I hear on TV. and read of real happenings right now stories of women being jailed (dungeon) and accused of being a spy in countries like Iran and China, where some maybe are tortured by medieval method/devices into confessing to being a spy or treason which 95% of the time they just human right activists (innocent) or the like. Question is that any different from being accused of being a witch and tortured into confession? As a matter of fact from what I have read back in the medieval times just as many men and women, if not more, were tortured in dungeons into confessing to being a spy (treason) as was being a witch. Just mudding the waters in this spy vs witch debate poll. Bill K. |
Name: | mstrerotc |
Thanks Margot for your views and Amy also...which are correct....and yes, I would think medieval or modern, a well made, erotically charged torture scene involving a very defiant female spy and a pure evil villain can be exciting. I think I even might want to picture the woman being tortured is a mature woman...say late 30's to 50ish...in good physical shape...Depending on who is playing the roll, it could be more sexually exciting than watch the same thing happening to a woman in her 20's or less. The rack, would be a wonderful instrument of torture to use on her...as she might not be able to withstand suspension at her age...though an overhead hoist, with metal rings imbedded far apart in the floor below her can also be used...her ankles tied to the rings, her arms, high over her head, spread wide apart, attached to ropes leading down from the hoist. To take it further, she is positioned spread eagled over a deep pit of glowing hot coals, so rivers of sweat drip off her stretched body, hissing as the hit to glowing coals below her. Of course, a few of these coals, or heated irons and needles could be used on her to make her scream out her answers even though she was defiant beforehand. Lynn and Eda...I think you might love this scenario. I would love to discuss this with you at any time. |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
To all GIMPers - Maleficarum and Marquis movie actor: Eric Calancha Cossío is in the hospital, Jane and JJ ask that we all think good thoughts of him. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
I love your idea of torturing an older woman mstrerotc. And I would like to nominate Michelle Yeoh for the honor. She has a fine body and a beautiful face that would look even more beautiful contorted with extreme pain. And she always portrays a rather tough woman in her roles so I would think that her body could still take some punishment. And based on what I have read of Eda's stories I would imagine that she might approve of Michelle herself. And Eda, Michelle was just deported from Burma for her role in her latest movie. I would love to read a story from you that has a different ending than Michelle simply being deported. Wink wink...... |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/post/14122630090 |
I have no idea how old she is, but I nominate this woman from Yuji's URL link. That is a hot photo. |
Name: | John Galt |
Yuji Kotorida: Welcome to the forum, big time. It's always nice to see new posts and especially posts that are illustrated. Michelle Yeoh--Mmmmm. Hard to believe she is now what? 49 years old? How recent is the picture you posted? I don't want to take away from Eda's literary achievements, but I think I would prefer to see Michelle in a movie as opposed to reading about her in a story. Same situation, though. Something GIMp-ish. * * * * * A Canadian: You should provide instructions for posting images on the forum from now on. You get results, dude. * * * * * Margot: Thanks for another incredible post. Loved the inside scoop, the history, the hints of great things to come. It's good that Maleficarum has been so successful for Red Feline on several levels. I would like to think there is a profitable niche audience to keep you folks going, and maybe some tentative mainstream acceptance to make GIMP in general more accessible for the masses. You just know there are scads of people out there who secretly love seeing it, but are afraid to admit it, even to themselves. Maleficarum might move them closer to personal enlightenment. I won't be holding my breath for a favorable Roger Ebert review, though. * * * * * And finally, my nomination for most under-acknowledged (if not under-appreciated) review, Ralphus' The Skin I Live In, has been updated with images showing some naughty bits. Check it out here: The Skin I Live In. Do it now, dammit! That is all. |
Name: | A Canadian |
John Galt wrote: My nomination for most under-acknowledged (if not under-appreciated) review, Ralphus' The Skin I Live In.... Many of us were shocked numb by the news that you can find an art theatre in Ohio. Nonetheless, we are grateful for the review and the caps. |
Name: | Rick |
Homepage URL: | http://www.zfx-shockwavevideo.com |
Greetings All, Heroone: The SOB series was inspired by the HOM /Blakemore classics Tourist Trap 1&2 , 70's exploitation in general, and my own depraved imaginings. Yuji: Those asian beauties holding the computer...some of the best CG I've seen. The clothes are amazing...or maybe they are real... Hope everyone is having a great holiday season! Rick |
Name: | YikYakker |
A Canadian wrote: ...I nominate this woman from Yuji's URL link. That is a hot photo. Ooo, yeah. It's a nice look when the amount of weaponry exceeds the amount of clothing. |
Name: | Rack 'Em Up |
E-mail address: | fan.of.the.gimp@gmail.com |
Greetings All, Wow, I had no idea that sending an extra DVD (SOB 4) to a GIMPer would invoke such a response and discussion about that video and series. Glad to see it, though. Poll question - very tough, but I think I will vote spy, also. I like the idea of medieval tortures, but would use some modern ones, also (electricity, etc). A spy scenario involving both old and new could really run the gamut, so to speak, and satisfy everyone. Along that line, I would like to give a shout-out to Eda, and everyone that has contributed stories. They are a pleasure to read, and well written. I actually wrote a couple stories quite a few years ago on an OLD (Windows 3.1) computer, which unfortunately (or fortunately) I don't have anymore. The stories had a "futuristic", sci-fi theme to them, involving time travel and such. Too bad I don't have them anymore. Stay well, all. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Been busy here that past few days. Lots of activity again. I like it when we have a flurry of intelligent posts from this crowd of pervs. D. Santorum: A belated welcome to the forum. Margot went all teary-eyed over your "non-review review". You can definitely write well, and if you ever want to finish what you wrote about The Via Crucis of Camille - Crux 6&7, we don't have an official review of that film in the database. Think it over. Even if you don't want to write one, you definitely don't have to become a lurker again. --------------- Yuji Kotorida: Likewise, we're glad you found this place and look forward to hearing more from you. Nice images, too. --------------- Margot: As usual, another must-read, cap-filled extravaganza. Enjoyed reading about the history of the company. Interesting to read how Red Feline was another victim of the Bush war on porn during that disastrous time when the crackdown on credit card companies first started. Thank God things have eased up a bit now that we have a Democrat in the White House. It must be a dream come true to be able to make movies for a living. Maybe not a lot of money in it, but you're able to be creative and make these type of erotic features in exotic locations. I wish you all have continued success, because that will mean more high quality GIMP material for the rest of us. --------------- The poll: Based on those who've given a definite preference, it's looking like a runaway for the spies, currently Spies 13, Witches 3. It's a win-win either way. Now we just need someone to make these movies for us. --------------- mstrerotic wrote: I think I even might want to picture the woman being tortured is a mature woman...say late 30's to 50ish... Ugh. The ageist in me is trying real hard not to become confrontational. With so many young cuties in the world out there ready to be tortured, we don't really need to bother the older ladies, do we? --------------- A Canadian wrote: It's interesting to imagine Eda having her own movie production company. Could Eda ultimately become the John Hughes of the GIMP world? I hope not. John Hughes is dead! But seriously, she's soon to be the screenwriter of an upcoming Red Feline picture, or at least getting a screen credit like "Based on the story by EDA CHANG". Just like in Shawshank Redemption, "Based on a story by STEPHEN KING". Hey, she's that good, and rumor has it, a lot better looking. |
Name: | Eda |
E-mail address: | asiangirl342333@yahoo.com |
Just to make sure that credit is given where it is due: While I contributed the initial story for one of the movies that the Red Feline group is planning to produce next year, Jane and JJ are the ones writing the screenplay based on it (and I understand that they are in the process of expanding my story considerably, so most of the screenplay will be entirely their creation, not mine). I also understand that Jane is going to direct it. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
Here is another movie I'd really like to see...... |
Name: | Joost Damhouder |
E-mail address: | istvan4331@gamail.com |
In regards to the way the two young ladies were undressed in Maleficarum: Since the movie has striven to be as authentic as possible, some of the earlier comments are correct. In the era covered clothes were expensive and not mass produced. It was customary for the executioner to be able to sell any clothes left over, and that was part of his pay. So ripping any garment would have been accidental rather than on purpose. Every account I've read of transcripts of actual sessions in the torture chamber of the Spanish Inquisition shows a standard formula that an accused witch would be ordered to undress, and only forcibly stripped if they had to be. Apparently it was felt as part of the process of reducing those before the Inquisitors to submission that undressing themselves was more psychologically demeaning than being stripped by the torturer and his assistants. |
Name: | Joost Damhouder |
E-mail address: | istvan4331@gamail.com |
On this theme of Inquisitorial witch hunting, I recently came across a few references to a Galician production of the trial of a real historical person accused of witchcraft, Maria Solina. Filming had been completed for this documentary of some 75 minutes length of a person who had become famous in her own country as a victim of a persecution motivated by greed of others for her property. The role of Maria Solina is being played by an actress, Luma Gomez, who apparently is quite respected in Spain. About 10 years ago there was the Italian production of Gostanza da Libbiano by Paulo Benvenuti, which while not a commercial success, was a critical hit for many who have seen it, which is now available for viewing on the internet. I was curious if there are any early scenes available for Maria Solina available for viewing. While these certainly aren't BDSM productions, they give a view of the real history which I think is important even for those with a viewpoint of kink rather than historical documentation. |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Joost Damhouder - many thanks for adding to the many observations on the correct practices of Inquisition Torturers. The facts have to be separated from those movies that are targeted at a fetish bondage audience. Ralphus - Congratulations to all who contributed and worked on Maleficarum. The movie is now listed on IMDb, as a drama, where it belongs. Eda - ya got my ear. I'm looking forward to anything that comes out Bolivia, especially from the rebuilt Red Feline, and JJ's mind. |
Name: | mastreric |
Not a poll, but I'd love to know how others here think in regards to watching an attractive, well built, woman in, say her early 40's, aristocratic, defiant, being tortured by the iquisition in comparison with a young woman, also attractive, being tortured in the same manner...say the rack or lashed, AOH. If you had to choose only one, which would it be...I would pick the mature one (and hope she doesn't "talk" for as long as possible. Also, would you rather see and hear either of these women scream in pain...or would it be more exciting to you watching her grit her teeth, her neck muscles bulging to keep from screaming and deprive her torturer the pleasure of hearing her scream and beg for mercy? |
Name: | John Galt |
Yeah, so I checked out the IMDB entry for Maleficarum and I discover that the cast is listed alphabetically, so Mila Joya is almost halfway down the cast list. But even more bizarre, the character of Mariana de Castro is missing from the cast list, as is actress Amy Hesketh. WTF? Who wrote this entry? |
Name: | YikYakker |
John Galt: WTF indeed. They have Amy listed as a producer. I guess they don't believe someone can have more than one talent. Pfft. I submitted a new entry for Amy. I guess the inquisitors at IMDb will have to review my submission and approve it before it shows up. Maybe if they get enough people prodding them to include her, that will do the trick. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/post/14122630090 |
John Galt wrote: The character of Mariana de Castro is missing from the cast list, as is actress Amy Hesketh. WTF? Who wrote this entry? America's favorite associate producer is also missing from the production credits. What an injustice. ----- The inquisition question: I know how one well-known ageist will respond. For me, though, age doesn't matter. What's important is whether or not the victim is attractive and convincing. ----- Eda wrote: While I contributed the initial story for one of the movies that the Red Feline group is planning to produce next year, Jane and JJ are the ones writing the screenplay based on it. If it remains true to the story, I'm not fussed about who puts together the screenplay (imdb will probably get it wrong, anyway). I'm still excited to see one of Eda's stories getting produced as a film. If I have any say in the casting, I'm going to push for someone who looks like Anje. Or, alternately, like that woman from Yuji's website. |
Name: | YikYakker |
BTW, I did not see a credit called Moneybags, Ralphus. |
Name: | Reine Margot |
Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/home |
Do not worry about the missing credits, they'll be up in less than 72 hrs, including the poster of the film. We're surprised that it's up so soon, we weren't expecting it for another 2 weeks. |
Name: | John Galt |
Okay, well, first of all, I want to know if mstrerotic, mstrerotc, and mastreric are all different people with an annoying predilection for choosing similar aliases or the same person who has trouble keeping his nom de GIMP straight. Or maybe a combination of two people who have a fondness for similar consonants and are both peculiarly parsimonious with vowels? Regarding the non-poll question, I would always prefer to see a hot young female victim if we're just talking generic victims. However, there are some "older" women who I would love to see in a GIMP-ish situation, and given the choice between a random hot young thing and one of these specific older women I would go for age over youth. By "older" I am still basically drawing the line at 50, probably. But how old, exactly, is "older"? Angelina Jolie is 36. Jacqueline Lovell (Sara St James) is 37. Jennifer Aniston is 42. Sandra Bullock is 47. Alex Kingston and Michelle Yeoh are both 48. I can think of intriguingly lascivious GIMP situations for all of them. * * * * * Thanks, Margot, as long as someone is aware of the travesty that is the IMDB entry for Maleficarum and is working to right this unseemly wrong, I can sleep soundly tonight. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
A Canadian wrote: I know how one well-known ageist will respond. For me, though, age doesn't matter. What's important is whether or not the victim is attractive and convincing. Believe it or not, I'm in complete agreement with you (how often does that happen?). I don't hate older women. I'm just saying you have a much better chance of finding an attractive woman if you search the late teen to twenty-something pool as opposed to the age 40 and above crowd. --------------- Maleficarum on the IMDB: It used to be that it would take 4 to 6 weeks for a submission to the IMDB to appear on their site. They've greatly improved their efficiency since then. Many of the newly illustrated GIMP reviews that have been submitted now show up in less than a week. That's an extra bonus for those of you who want to update your older reviews with caps...you'll automatically get a much larger exposure for your masterpiece because they'll be submitted, too. The GIMP has gone mainstream. The reviews have, anyway. |
Name: | Reine Margot | ||||||||||
Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/home | ||||||||||
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Name: | Vince |
I agree with Canadian and John Galt. If a woman woman can be hot in any age. Look at Sigourney Weaver in the "Alien" series. To me she just got looking better and better. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/reviews/japan/jap_attackers77.htm |
With help from not-so-much-of-an-ageist Ralphus, I have updated my review of Attackers JBD-077, starring Anjyu and an uncredited (by me) Randa Mai. Randa was uncredited because I had no idea who he was at the time I wrote the review. The movie, which was released in January 2005, is one of the oldest Attackers movies I have ever reviewed (the oldest, I believe, was Real World III with Mai Sakashita). While it's not as rough as some other Attackers titles released around the same time, it's a pretty harsh movie by today's standards, including today's standards for Attackers films. I think the caps for this one look pretty good, if I do say so myself. |
Name: | Bill K. |
Vince, Sigourney Weaver is 60+ years old, as is Meryl Streep 60+ and Karen Allen, Goldie Hawn, Sally Field to name a few that I wouldn't mind seeing in a dungeon or a bats damsel. I for one don't care about age but how they look and act. Well, that's my take on the age thing. Bill K. |
Name: | Fritz |
Maleficarum: I did want to post my comments on Maleficarum, but have not done so because there really is not much more to say. So many people commented on it that most of my thoughts have already been stated more articulately than I could manage. Basically it was a great production (mentioned by many, many GIMPers) which almost everyone agrees is the best RF video to date. Like some, I was disappointed by the ending, but as previously mentioned, that is easily remedied by ejecting the DVD before the weird coda begins. John Galt wrote: I want to know if mstrerotic, mstrerotc, and mastreric are all different people with an annoying predilection for choosing similar aliases or the same person who has trouble keeping his nom de GIMP straight. I have a theory. I think all three are the same person, but our identity challenged friend chooses to be...
The poll that never was: I'm Goldilocks on this one. Hot GIMPettes in the 40+ range are few and far between, but I'm even more put off by gum-snapping cheerleaders in plaid skirts and white socks. It's frustrating to watch videos starring 18 year old teenagers as spies, police women, lawyers, etc. This bugs me more than the occasional "mature" babe who may have a few bodily imperfections. That said, my ideal victim - not too young, not too old, but just right - is a self-assured, classy woman between 25 and 40. Yuji Kotorida: Welcome to the forum. I love the pictures you have posted here, as well as your Tumblr... um... place. Your fantasy world is just around the corner from mine. Now tell us... how did you ever convince Eda to pose for that Beg For Death poster? I've seen her contract, and the no-nudity clause seems pretty binding. |
Name: | Fritz | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Spies and witches and bears, oh my... One of the great things about this place is that folks don't just vote, they explain why they make the choices they do. It took me a hummingbird's heartbeat to decide I preferred a spy film over one featuring witches. It took me considerably longer to figure out why. Thankfully, many posters already gave their reasons, which makes it easier for me to understand my own. Just for spare nuts, I summarized what's been mentioned so far. The following chart covers several points that have been brought up, selected based on primacy and clarity. According to Ralphus, many more votes have been tabulated, but these were the comments which resonated most with me:
All the attributes except numbers 3 and 6 affected my vote. Personally, ever since Elizabeth Montgomery began showing up in the dreams of my warped, ten-year old brain, I've had no problem imagining a sexy witch. And I don't identify with any victims, so although Lynn's comment is a good one, it doesn't help me decide in this case. That leaves nine attributes. I agree with all the preferences except for numbers 2, 5 and 9 - all of them from witch voters. I prefer modern torture devices (more range, more control, and arguably more painful) and I like my victims to be at least partially responsible for the mess they're in. Sorry Ralphus, but did you really enjoy seeing Bambi's mother shot? As for tattered 16th century duds, would anyone prefer tattered this to tattered this? And just so I'm not being totally derivative, I did come up with another attribute. Female spies, at least the ones we're discussing here, use their sexuality as a weapon. They seduce the enemy, as well as other spies and anyone who might help them get what they want. As a result, spy novels and movies tend to be more titillating, with more between-the-sheets action than anything featuring witches. Those innocent witch girls wouldn't display their bodies even if they knew what to do with them. Sure, things pick up a bit when they are forcibly stripped, but a good spy film holds your interest in between the peril scenes as well. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
I love this picture and I just had to turn it into a very short story. Enjoy...... |
Name: | mstrerotic |
it's "Mstrerotic"...I'm not always the good typist. |
Name: | John Galt |
Fritz: Your Goldilocks cartoon was seriously warped. I loved it. * * * * * Mstrerotic: Thanks. I wasn't asking to criticize your typing skills. I just like to respond to people on the forum I "know" based on past posts and I wanted to make sure it was all you. I have sometimes mistyped my own name and now I just let the browser "autofill" it based on the first letter, which I can generally get right. When I'm in a hurry, though, all bets are off. |
Name: | Joost Damhouder |
E-mail address: | istvan4331@gamail.com |
Heroone, even the serious mainstream movies about the witch hunt and the Inquisition have their share of purient interest. Gostanza da Libbiano by Paulo Benvenuti is a serious piece of work starring Lucia Poli, an established actress who certainly isn't doing porn for a living. Yet the box which contained the movies' DVD shows her naked from the back, in the scene where she has undressed at the order of the Inquisitor who is going to examine her under torture with the strappado. Ms. Poli is a 60 year old woman, as was the character she played, but she still has a nice ass for a woman of her age. |
Name: | kingdiocletian |
The poll topic seems to have raised a whole number of other issues. Personally, I like a range of scenarios. I see that the modern spy setting gives a greater range of torments (flogging, branding, stretching... and things like hosepipes and electricity) and electricity is great because the intensity can be controlled ('and tomorrow, we'll try you on level four...'), and it doesn't disfigure the victim. That's not all I respond to in a scenario, though. I like the isolation of the victim (which is why I tend to prefer just one victim). She's naked, and all these men around her are in SS uniform, or dressed as priests, or wearing Roman uniform - and I guess variety again is important. As for the attitude of the victim, I agree that resistance being broken is the best story arc, but resistance doesn't have to mean a spy refusing to give up a secret. It could be the proud daughter of the local landowner who's attacked the corruption of the church suddenly finding herself before the Inquisition, initially ignoring their threats, then trying not to show pain, slowly being broken until finally she begs them to burn her at the stake as a release from the agony. I think that's what appeals to me so much about flogging: the way a victim could be resistance, could refuse to scream for 10 lashes, then be howling at 20, and be begging for mercy at 30, only to be told the sentence is 50 and the final 20 must be delivered. The hopelessness of the victim as she faces those last 20 lashes, broken but still suffering, I find fascinating. Far more important than setting for me is motivation. OK, the guards inflicting the pain may just be hired goons - perhaps sadistic ones who can't believe their luck at getting a pretty young victim to torment - but the one overseeing it or instigating it must have a reason to hate the victim. I'd much rather it were a jilted noble getting his revenge by reporting the victim to the authorities, or the spy chief finally getting his hands on the mole who's been embarrassing him for years, than just a random pretty girl picked up in the street. He must have a reason to want to hurt her even if the guards just enjoy it. I suppose the other thing is the level of realism. I'm not too bothered about the exact detail so long as I can vaguely visual the scenario, but what is important is the amount of pain they can take - which is probably more than is realistic without being absurd. I accept the 36 lashes of the scourge Katharina takes in my story The Scapegoat is probably too many, but it's sort of a symbolic harshness - and it's not ridiculous as, say 100 would have been. And, of course, the victim should have a remarkable ability to stay looking attractive despite the punishment... So, to go back to the original question, put me down as an either/or - witches, spies, rebel leaders, captured princesses, Roman, medieval, modern... any works for me. |
Name: | MR BUSH |
"Mstrerotic"... To answer your question, my opinion is the preferred victim is a 40 ish well built lady, maybe with a little bit of some (not a lot) excess fat around her buttocks and thighs, which will jiggle when being whipped and tortured. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
Let me drive home why in my opinion modern spy girls are better torture victims than witches......Nuff said! |
Name: | Reine Margot |
Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/home |
The IMDB corrections are up except for Amy. We sent the correction and we hope this will fix the problem. To avoid confusing IMDB we ask not to send corrections that will duplicate what we just did. Thanks. |
Name: | Bill K. |
Fritz here is a true modern witch Marina Baker. http://www.stakedamsels.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1843&mode=view that makes your spy girl want to die of envy long before her first taste of the torturer whip, a so to speak. Here is: http://sexywitch.wordpress.com/ Sexy witches site which as more sexy witches that will kick sexy spies butts for sure and then turn them into frogs. Vote witch lovers we need a Tim Tebow 4th quarter comeback. Bill K. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
Speaking of witches..... I recently ran across a really cool old horror movie made in 1960 called Horror Hotel I had not seen this movie since the late sixties when I was but a wee lad and it had been stuck in my mind until now. It was really well done and featured some really hot women in it. I think it stuck in my mind because that was the first time I had seen a gorgeous blond in garters. The head witch is a very stern looking older woman with a serious lesbian vibe about her who loves sacrificing young virgins on her underground alter to Satan. Great atmosphere and delicious women make this movie a winner. Plus as a bonus it has Christopher Lee in it. This movie definitely does it for me and it has a very nice GIMP factor as well! http://www.hulu.com/watch/235365/horror-hotel?c=Horror-and-Suspense |
Name: | Greg |
Hi Guys, Let's get away from the vacuous pap of these Jap films, which really are for the novices of the gimp world and get down to the real deal. In short, proper flogging films. Now these babes are in woefully short supply, otherwise...well why are we here for chrissakes! But upon analysis, how many of these films really float your boat? Oh I know they pretend to offer the real deal, but do they? Like that laptop you bought because it could do all the shit they said on the TV, only to get it home and find you need a cable for this and a card for that...fuck! That's no good then. Well some films are like that. They have to tick the boxes and then some to really become instilled as classics. Firstly, the babe has to be stripped to the waist. No, not nude, really, just waist bare is fine, honest, trust me on this, I've been doing this a long time, I've done the research and I know. So let's break this down and take a little trip down memory lane and try and guess why these films don't make it. Take Sword of the Barbarians (the Americans had the wrong title like "Barbarian Master" or some such bollocks).
Well, OK it has all the elements of a classic. Stripped babe. Grim dungeon type setting and the old baddie sets too. But in the end...nah!! The whipping post wobbles, there isn't the true inevitability of a good old fashioned "flog her till she drops" type flogging and then, the whole thing is over way too early and...well I don't know what. It just didn't work. The best bit about this was the way the babe stayed tied to the post for the rest of the film and we got some sweet long shots of her bloody back. Now they WERE good. So I started to desperately scour the DVD rental shelves for the guy that's gonna fit the bill. Ah...what's this??? Stormquest!!! Wow, how awesome could this be? So by luck and flaw and sheer scent for a film that might pay its dues, I rented it. Sure there's a whipping. Ho shit, three babes at once...oh and some other little shit, but we can forget him. Well, we got the lot, Judicial, inevitable and the best of the three gets an extra twenty lashes.
Well go and get a coffee while you wait. You'll miss nothing. Forget that they don't even strip these babes properly. It's just the whipping is so phoney...even corny. Their tops are ripped down a bit and then, when the flogging is set to continue on the last cutie, she yells so hard, it looks like the whipping stops there. Like the director shouted cut and the camera kept fucking shooting. Crap my brothers, just sheer crap. Back to the shop with it, let's look some more. Blowing the dust off and old vintage one here. I can just make out the faded title. Fair Wind to Java. Howee, this has gotta be good. Yeah, the old Meany gets the big tough burly bastard to take the babe down to the cellar for a bit of what gets hellcats licking their cream from the bowl like good ones. Alas, twasn't to be. She only has a low cut dress and gets to keep it on too. Now we wouldn't do that, would we guys?
The UKTV edited version of this is awful shit. The film just shit. She gets what's coming but it all really ends in tears when you realize, in reality, you was ripped off again...Next!!! Ramrodder?! What's this? Bloody cowboys and Indians. Well yes, it is, but low and behold the affronted brave gets to whip the babe. You know the Indian that wears false eyelashes and heavy mascara? That's the one. Well this has to work. The babe is stripped naked and what a shape and the whipping sets off. Oh shit. Oh bollocks. "Get the continuity man!" I hear myself yelling. Too late. Sometimes she's got marks, other times none and throughout, the whipping just doesn't seem to get going. Horst Bucholtz should have stayed chasing our Haley Mills in the excellent Tiger Bay. (Not for this page).
There is more. I could go on. Ms. Stiletto. Delicious babe all but naked but retaining that little vestige of clothing that makes it all the more alluring and interesting.
But that's about as interesting as it gets. It's hard to decide if Ms. Stiletto is having a disturbed sleep or a bad case of wind. Where's the pain, the cries of agony? We want it, we need it, it has to be there. Where's the bloody, welted back? Shit shit shit. Even the Story of 'O'. Why are all the scenes so abstract and distant from the viewer? It's almost like watching the whole thing through a vignette of haze and obscurity.
Like England v Germany in the 2010 World Cup, only in one brief, two second shot do we get to see how delicious and sublime the luscious Corinne Clery really can be when we see her blanketed in sweat, marked with welts and pouting like a hot tigress from the planet bollocks. Oh God she looks so hot. So the credits roll and we are left shaking our heads, usually in disbelief more than dismay. How do these screenwriters keep their jobs? I'd sack them all and take the proceedings over for them. Pay...shit I'd pay them if I could get to truly position Corinne Clery's naked torso and get her looking properly sweaty with my own fair hands. |
Name: | mothbrad |
Yuji, I'm really enjoying your spy-inspired pics! Please keep them coming. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
Let me pay Horror Hotel aka City Of The Dead proper respect. Here are some really nice pictures that showcase the beautiful women gracing this film. Let me start with Patricia Jessel. She plays the leader of the coven and also proves that a forty year old woman can still be suitable for torture or better yet, the torturer. I'd love to stretch her on the rack even at forty years old! Mmmmmmm.......Patricia Dressel, she's what's for dinner! The lovely Venetia Stephenson gets whats coming to her by the wicked witch Patricia Dressel The sweet Betta St. John about to get her soft throat cut by Patricia Dressel...... |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Greg - Its nice to see another fellow WSIMer posting images of the classics to GIMP. I have not seen you post here before, if so, it would please me to say welcome. Have you viewed Maleficarum yet? If not, buy the DVD from the distributer, VermeerWorks, you will find it worthy of your GIMP library, and worth every penny. Not since The Story of O, 1975 have I seen good WSIM content that was not sleazy. It's a movie with a good plot. Only other folks producing something of this caliber are Spanish TV novellas, i.e. recently Hispania. Big but, I have not been reviewing everything produced in 2000 new year and since. I have been reading older postings from this GIMP website...thanks Ralphus...it's a good start for some sort of a GIMP search engine. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Greg wrote: Well go and get a coffee while you wait. You'll miss nothing. Forget that they don't even strip these babes properly. It's just the whipping is so phoney...even corny. I'm sure that's true, but that picture you posted is hot enough to get my interest. I still might try to find that movie. ----- Greg also wrote: ...oh and some other little shit, but we can forget him. Hopefully, you're dismissing him because of his gender, and not because of his diminutive stature. You do realize the moderator of this site isn't allowed on the adult rides? |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://www.sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
Forgive me if all of you already know about the site below. But if you don't know about it, it has a serious GIMP factor! http://www.perilousthoughts.com/ |
Name: | johnsmart |
After seeing the very excellent chart listing our names and our views on the witch or spy movie, I realized that I focused so hard on my AOH desires that I forgot to mention that realism is super important too. Suddenly, I am reminded of some scene somewhere where the damsel was being "tortured" by someone who was literally holding to tiny wires against her chest and she was shaking and doing that fake "Ooooo it hurts" moan that I absolutely cannot stand. Or, when you see obviously fake bondage, like shackles that are so loose the damsel has to hold onto them otherwise her hands won't stay in. Realism is important. |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
Witches vs Spies: I like innocent girls, so the idea of a girl who joins a coven and learns a few spells -- only to be abducted and have her spells used against her -- to rape and torture her -- that would be awesome!
On the 40+ front, what about Ms Tina Turner. I saw a concert she did at age 60 (or more) -- hot as hell and full of energy. I'd make her the star of a show at the House of Horrors any day! |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
A wicked woman indeed......
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Name: | Greg |
Hey c'mon all you self-respecting gimpers. Have you no self-esteem at all? What's all this crap about the victims having to be sylph like cuties fresh out of modelling school. Gimme a mature bitch that can take what's coming me. I'm not into BATS, but I am into base, grunge torture and if the woman is forty, all I'll say is, 'stretch her a little tighter guys'. Ultimately I'd say we are the beggars, not the choosers and for what it's worth, give me the gloomy, sweltering dungeon over the pristine, sterile insides of a modern inquisitors chamber. I'll accept a girl trained in spywork might be tougher to crack, watching a woman getting trussed up for witchcraft on a creaking rack has gotta have it everytime for me. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Greg wrote: Hey c'mon all you self-respecting gimpers. Have you no self-esteem at all? No, not really. Thanks for asking. |
Name: | Greg |
Homepage URL: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkjzLr1aRRE |
A word to Canadian about Stormquest. I will admit to a degree, this film does have some saving virtues. There's a fair few slave girls wafting about albeit clothed and odd snippets of gimp talk, but the flogging scene. Well, judge for yourselves gimsters. Here it is. Dont blink or you miss it and the end is just...well it's crap! PS the little shit I refer to is indeed discounted on his gender and happily we dont see much of the gobbler during this scene. |
Name: | johnsmart |
Greg said: "What's all this crap about the victims having to be sylph like cuties fresh out of modelling school. Gimme a mature bitch that can take what's coming." I think actual attractiveness is more important than age therefore I would rather have a hot 40 year old than an ugly 24 year old. But I think most 24 year olds look a lot better than most 40 year olds. That's personal opinion anyway. |
Name: | Joost Damhouder |
E-mail address: | istvan4331@gamail.com |
I don't see it as productive to argue a position by trying to put down the opinion of another, so I'll make a positive argument in favor of witches: As a kid curious about many things, I came across in my reading a few references to witches, the Inquisition and related matters. In a few instances there were passages about how witches were dealt with in the time of the witch hunts (1400's to 1700's) and the even rarer picture of a woman in chains, or undergoing torture or imprisonment in various states of dress, or even more interesting, undress. Later when my reading expanded and the subject became a good deal more engrossing, I started to see this subject as what became to me the perfect BDSM theme. I'm not especially interested in pain per se, or executions including burning at the stake as BDSM subject matter. Rather, the interesting parts of the witch hunt are the more subtle portions of the real historical process: the stripping to look for the witch mark, inspecting body cavities for charms to withstand the torture, shaving of body hair, undressing in the torture chamber whether total or partial, the keeping in chains of the accused, etc. The German term for the system of torture that became standard translates as "embarrassing question" which I think shows that at the time, even though it was never acknowledged as such, that humiliation, shame and other similar feelings were as important as physical pain inflicted. Those witch hunters of the 16th and 17th centuries were into BDSM in their own fashion, and they probably never acknowledged it even to themselves. |
Name: | Thawkinsworth |
E-mail address: | Thawkinsworth@yahoo.com |
Top headline on yahoo right now: "Kim Kardashian grilled over racy past" Do the writers of these headlines even know the origin of this phrase? It would truly be interesting to see her "grilled" over her racy past. In fact, I'll be thinking about that for awhile now. |
Name: | Baron von Folter |
E-mail address: | folter666@verizon.net |
As a seasoned citizen and one of the "older" (sometime) posters to this forum I have a great appreciation for the older woman. I would like to see a woman like this
taken to the dungeon of the Inquisition and subjected to the usual "treatment" that ensues therein. I am pleasantly surprised at the support the "mature" woman has received and also that the cries of "no grannies" has not arisen so far. Another advantage of older women is they are usually free from tats and other bodily 'enhancements. At least for a few more years. It may be a little late but you can put me in Witch column. I have been a longtime fan of the Inquisition and medieval tortures and the several "victim" scenarios that are available. It can be greed, revenge, spite or just plain sadism that leads the unfortunate woman to a fate "worse than death." I also like to see a naked woman in chains/shackles. Baron von Folter |
Name: | Eda |
E-mail address: | asiangirl342333@yahoo.com |
Two observations about captured spy scenes: 1. There were spies in medieval times, and nothing in the poll limits the capture of a spy to present day, as some seem to have assumed. So captured spy scenes include interrogation in medieval dungeons in medieval times; and (2) While modern dungeons obviously could not be used for interrogation in medieval times, medieval dungeons can certainly be used for interrogation in modern times, with the addition of modern tortures that did not exist in medieval times. Sometimes the old ways work best. |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com |
Another hot mature woman who would spruce up any dungeon or interrogation room would be the ever so sexy Joan Chen....... |
Name: | D. Santorum |
E-mail address: | dsantorum@inbox.com |
Greg said: "So the credits roll and we are left shaking our heads, usually in disbelief more than dismay. How do these screenwriters keep their jobs? I'd sack them all and take the proceedings over for them." I totally share your pain Greg. And I want you to know I'm doing something about it. I'm contributing to a relatively big budget flick that will feature a flogging scene that avoids all the major mistakes inherent in all previous flogging scenes. I'm itching to say more, but alas, I am not at liberty do so at this time. Stay tuned. D. Santorum |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://www.sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
Lucy Liu just turned 43 this month. OMFG! Someone put her on the rack! |
Name: | A Canadian |
Yuji Kotorida wrote: Lucy Liu just turned 43 this month. OMFG! Someone put her on the rack! I wholeheartedly agree. |
Name: | YikYakker |
Here are two over-40s that I wouldn't mind having in my dungeon:
Courtney Cox still attracts the paparazzi when she's at the beach...
...while Catherine Zeta-Jones never fails to dazzle
Eda: You make two excellent points about dungeons and spies. We know that Mata Hari was a spy nearly 100 years ago, as was Josephine Baker, who secretly worked for the French Resistance in WW2. Is there anything in the literature about female spies from centuries ago? Not that our imaginations need to be bound by history.... ---------- Baron von Folter: I've seen a few BoundHeat products. The women are beautiful and wet, the productions are lavish. But I've often been left disappointed in the whipping scenes. However, the pics you posted reminded me of an exceptional scene in Caligula' Spawn. The victim was tied (loosely, alas) to an X-frame, and her pubis was mounted on a wooden projection that served the same function as a Spanish Horse. The girl was lovely and the whipping was a tad more energetic than others I've seen from this outfit.
Caligula's Spawn ---------- Greg: Can't disagree with your critique of those well-known cinematic floggings, and I'd certainly like to see re-workings of them that are more stellar. Still, I think the last three that you mentioned - from Story of O, Ms. Stiletto and The Ramrodder - do have some merit. As you noted, those 2 seconds of Corinne Clery...well, they are seared into my memory. But I also liked the earlier whippings in the film. And despite the flaws in the other two scenes, I thought the bodies belonging to Kathy Williams and Brigitte Skay were displayed nicely. It's just not that easy to find truly well-done whipping scenes in mainstream movies. ---------- BTW, the Whipping Scenes in Movies Database has a few new entries - well, at least they're new since the last time I looked. |
Name: | Sung |
The Asian Gimp in Solitary Confinement |
Name: | John Galt |
Yuji Kotorida: Yes, and Lucy Lui was 39 when she did Rise: Blood Hunter, in which she was hung upside down and naked. Except the scene was so dark and shadowy. But still, it was VERY nice. |
Name: | Covers |
Homepage URL: | http://bcotd.com |
Well this sounds promising for "Girl With the Dragon Tattoo." |
Name: | John Galt |
Covers: That interview with Rooney Mara certainly sounds interesting, but what she might have gone through during filming and what the director decides to include in the final cut might be two completely different things. She is right that the scene is critical for the trilogy story line, so hopefully it delivers. * * * * * I see on the Powershotz site that Steve has just released the downloadable version of his Second Interview DVD, featuring Shelena and Bryce. Shelena is on my Top Ten Powershotz Babes List. Very pretty. Totally hot. And while her Powershotz experience was not as intense as, say, Hazel, it was still quite memorable. I reviewed the individual clips that comprise the DVD here. That was before illustrations were the norm in reviews, but if you click the links to the clips, there are pictures from the scenes at the Powershotz store. I haven't been as impressed with the latest Powershotz models, but I readily admit it is a matter of taste. I'm a sucker for the pretty, young, slender, petite, deceptively innocent-looking types. Like Shelena. |
Name: | Greg |
Baron von Folter: I've seen a few BoundHeat products. The women are beautiful and wet, the productions are lavish. But I've often been left disappointed in the whipping scenes. I think somebody voiced lame and that about sums it up. I was the mad sad recipient of one of these offerings. I think it was The Huntress or something. Damn it was just about the worst whipping I have ever encountered. Make no mistake, the settings are fine (unless you include the catacombs where they are all supposed to be labouring away in the squeaky clean floors of a mine!!). Indeed the babes are awesome, but the depictions and acting during the floggings are woeful. I certainly wont be sending the site a Christmas card this year, or moreover, any money for a movie either. Just a word to Santorum. If you need any help with this, purely as an amateur voyeur with vast years of disappointment under my belt I might add. Just give me the word. Let me know the scenario and I will be happy to offer some ideas from my now heavy tome entitled 'things to include in a whipping scene', I doubt it would pass the publisher's censor, but I will be glad to kick some ideas your way. As for the Baron Von Folter, I pretty mush agree with every sentiment voiced about the films and older models. Greg |
Name: | YikYakker |
Homepage URL: | http://nudecelebs.cm/gallery/priscilla-barnes/pictures/111212/topcelebs.html |
Homepage URL: For those who like forced stripping scenes, here's a good one from the movie The Devil's Rejects. Priscilla Barnes does a variation on that old line, "Is that a gun in your pants....?" ---------- Today's Pics: Yeah Amy, yeah, bring it! I love a good aftermath scene...this one may be even better than the rape itself. This girl really makes me crazy. |
Name: | Badger |
YikYakker: Thanks for the reminder about the titillating scene with Priscilla Barnes in "The Devil's Rejects." As so often happens, though, so much potential for more GIMP in an otherwise decent movie was squandered as Rob Zombie chose to start killing off the lovelies rather than have more fun with them first. Your post reminded me of one of my favorite Forced to Strip scenes in a very underrated 1993 movie called "The Flesh Merchant". Joe Estevez and Don Stroud in the same movie (just consider the possibilities) about white slavers. There is a scene with Twila Wolfe, who is forced to strip --- and turn around -- before helping her kidnapped friend do the same. This sleazy little ditty can be streamed on Netflix. |
Name: | Baron von Folter |
E-mail address: | folter666@verizon.net |
YikYakker wrote: "Have they (Bound Heat whippings) gotten any better" No. Still lame. Greg wrote: "I've often been left disappointed in the whipping scenes." Yuji Kotorida wrote: "Lucy Liu just turned 43 this month. OMFG! Someone put her on the rack!" I think an explanation is in order. I did not post those pictures to promote Bound Heat nor did I even mention their whipping techniques. I only used them as an representation of a mature woman, the type I would like to see included in an Inquisition movie. They were pictures that were on a site that was "open" and could be linked to (thanks to Ralphus.) For anyone who cares the woman is Nikita Valintin. BTW YikYakker, she is sitting on a horse like projection but, Grrrr, it is covered by the cloth. Friedrich, Baron von Folter |
Name: | Greg |
Baron Von Folter No explanation or apologies needed I'm sure. The babes in Bound Heat in pure still shot form are indeed a wholesome spectacle and need no further explanation. Give me a good looking mature any day, I always think they could take the punishment without crumbling in your hands...know what I mean?? Greg |
Name: | Jane von Detlefson |
E-mail address: | jane@redfeline.com |
Homepage URL: | http://redfeline.com/dvdstore/ |
Margot kindly reminded me, like the good mother-hen that she is, that I have not thanked Ralphus for his in-depth review of Maleficarum. Why he has not cast me out for such awful behavior I can only chalk up to his saintly patience (or he's waiting for a just punishment...). Thank you, Ralphus, your review is very detailed and concise, you spent a lot of time on it and I appreciate it very much. I have an annoucement, I think Margot mentioned this before as well, we're having a Big Sale in our DVD Store, 20% OFF of the Red Feline Productions. It'll last until the end of the year. I very much appreciate the comments from everyone here about Maleficarum. While we're preparing the release of Le Marquis de la Croix (my third feature film as director), and we're only waiting for the subtitles for Sirwiñakuy (my first feature film as director) for its release, we're also starting the pre-production for the next feature film, which will be shot early next year, called Dead But Dreaming. I'm told that I have a scene riding a horse in that one (I love horsies!). And then later on riding a donkey... naked... in front of people... among other things. Fun times for everyone but me, it seems. And what's funny is that all this talk about spies is rather pertinent to my character in the next movie. As Eda mentioned, there were spies all throughout history... I have another segment of the interview about my participation in Maleficarum. This one is about torture...
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Name: | YikYakker |
Badger: Oh, yes, I've seen The Flesh Merchant, and my recollection (which tends to be hit or miss these days) is that the scene you described takes place in a park or wilderness area. I'm glad you mentioned that the movie is available on Netflix streaming, I'm a subscriber to that service. The movie does not appear in our review database, unless it's there under a different name. Guess I'll add it to my ever-lengthening list of flicks that I'd like to review but may never get around to in my lifetime.;) ---------- Yuji Kotorida: Just want to say that I'm really enjoying the pictures that you've been posting. I hope you've got lots more to show us. BTW, is that Joan Chen's daughter standing next to her? My, my, she is cute. I wonder if she will do us a favor and follow in her mother's footsteps? ---------- OK, I'm going to answer my own question, sort of. Delilah was a secret agent for the Philistines in the story about Samson. I don't know if that falls under the category of history or legend, but either way, it's an illustration that the idea of engaging a female spy was certainly not out of the question back in ancient times. ---------- These interviews with Amy are really a great idea. They help us get to know her better as a person and as an actress, and they also increase our understanding of what goes on behind the scenes. |
Name: | Bill K. |
Jane/Margot may I ask does "Dead But Dreaming" have any fiery/bats torture and or death peril scenes in it and if not want kind of torture peril scenes will it have? Bill K. |
Name: | Sung |
Homepage URL: | http://thenewbiel.deviantart.com |
The Asian Gimp Tied, and Tape Gagged from Ear-to-Ear |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Lots to comment again, some very interesting posts, guys. A Canadian: Nice to finally see caps on your review of Attackers JB-77. The last 20 minutes or so of the movie, where the cute chick gets tied spread-eagled to the cage bars and tortured with hot wax and needles through her nipples, is Attackers action at its finest and one of those "go to" scenes that does it for me every time. ----------------- Poll update: Spies 14, Witches 6. Looks bad for witch fans, but all we need is a touchdown and a 2-point conversion and this baby is tied. ----------------- Joost Damhouder: You're a new guy around here, aren't you? I've enjoyed reading what you had to say about witches and Inquisition torture. You seem to be well-versed in their history. In case you haven't checked, we have that film Gostanza da Libbiano in the Torture Rack Scenes Database (description, stills and video). That movie falls into the category of "strappado but so what?" for me mainly because of the matronly appearance of the victim. I much prefer the similar strappado scene with Natalie Portman, for obvious reasons. ----------------- Yuji Kotorida: I don't recall Horror Hotel as being particularly GIMP-worthy other than the first 5 minutes where the witch is burned at the stake, although that is a very nice scene. However, I thought the movie itself was quite good, particularly with the unexpected plot twist that predated Psycho by a few months when it came out in 1960. If anyone watches the film, they'll know what I'm talking about. ----------------- Greg: Great post, I laughed at all the comments about how all those whipping scenes failed. Actually, I like a lot of the films you dissed, like The Ramrodder, Ms. Stiletto and The Story of O. Attractive nude victims in all of them. We would all like mainstream films to deliver a nice long scene for us but since they're mainstream, we usually just have to take what we can get. ----------------- Thawkinsworth wrote : "Kim Kardashian grilled over racy past"...It would truly be interesting to see her "grilled" over her racy past. Boy, that would be a rump roast to sink your teeth into, huh? You asked for it, you got it. Everyone but Scribbler feel free to click on the link below:
----------------- YikYakker wrote: BTW, is that Joan Chen's daughter standing next to her? My, my, she is cute. I wonder if she will do us a favor and follow in her mother's footsteps? I'm with you. I know Yuji was trying to make us appreciate the virtues of mature women but I couldn't take my eyes off the young babe standing next to her. You also wrote: BTW, the Whipping Scenes in Movies Database has a few new entries Yes, there are some new ones, I add them when I can. The Story of O is one that was recently updated, for instance. I'm especially proud of the caps I made. Corrine Clery was one of the all-time great babes. ----------------- Jane von Detlefson wrote: Margot kindly reminded me, like the good mother-hen that she is, that I have not thanked Ralphus for his in-depth review of Maleficarum. Why he has not cast me out for such awful behavior I can only chalk up to his saintly patience (or he's waiting for a just punishment...). Thank you, Ralphus, your review is very detailed and concise, you spent a lot of time on it and I appreciate it very much. A month and a half late, but appreciated nonetheless, you're welcome. I would love to punish you for being tardy, but honestly, I can't think of anything to do to you that hasn't already been done to you on film already. Someone needs to give me suggestions. BTW, I'm really loving the interview segments. It's a real thrill listening to you talk about what it's like to be tortured. |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
Eda: There were spies in medieval times, and nothing in the poll limits the capture of a spy to present day, as some seem to have assumed. So captured spy scenes include interrogation in medieval dungeons in medieval times
And there are "witches" (wiccans) in our time. I say we teach them just enough for them to be dangerous -- to themselves.
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Badger: As so often happens, though, so much potential for more GIMP in an otherwise decent movie was squandered as Rob Zombie chose to start killing off the lovelies rather than have more fun with them first.
And the killings were ghastly. No fun to them -- I was very disappointed.
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Ralphus: I can't think of anything to do to you that hasn't already been done to you on film already. Someone needs to give me suggestions.
How about a punches to the lovely torso, or a two-by-four across the gut? Then we can put her in a wire garrote and squeeze and release, over and over, while those GIMPers into it rape her. Then we give her time to recover before the next bit of fun (HINT: BZZZZZZZZAP!) |
Name: | Greg |
Ralphus said We would all like mainstream films to deliver a nice long scene for us but since they're mainstream, we usually just have to take what we can get. This is sadly too true and got me to thinking. In fact the longest and most unbridled whipping scene in mainstream I know of is the one in The Passion of the Christ and in honesty, that made me feel quite sick. I actually found it hard to watch. Now I wonder if I would have been the same had it been a female suffering the same. I think the answer is a hesitating no, then I probably would have viewed the whole thing totally differently. Bloody hell!!! Wonder what this makes me? Greg |
Name: | YikYakker |
Ralphus wrote: I can't think of anything to do to you that hasn't already been done to you on film already. Someone needs to give me suggestions. How about we treat it like the grand finale of a fireworks display...one thing right after another. Like rape while in suspension, followed by whipping and branding on a wooden horse that is doused with fuel and set on fire. Oh man, I've been spending too much time on this forum. |
Name: | Thawkinsworth |
E-mail address: | Thawkinsworth@yahoo.com |
Ralphus: Love the pic of Kim. Here is another favorite of mine, perhaps it is her infiltrating the royal court to spy on the Sultan. And just an hour later she lands herself on the grill...
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Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://www.sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of torturing witches as well...... Marissa's time travel spell had gone terribly wrong and she found herself in Spain at the height of the dreaded Spanish Inquisition. She was still weak and disoriented as the Grand Inquisitor's second in command arrived with his guards after being alerted by the frightened townsfolk...... |
Name: | Yuji Kotorida |
E-mail address: | yujikotorida@gmail.com |
Homepage URL: | http://sexyspygirls.tumblr.com/ |
This picture just screams GIMP to me..... |
Name: | Heroone |
E-mail address: | GerryBear46@Comcast.Net |
Ahh my fellow GIMPers, Heroone once again takes pen and a few disturbing images floating between his ears of beautiful women in peril, facing the tortures of their lives and most likely that fate worst than death. I have been delighted by those pictures posted by Yuji Kotorida. That picture of Marissa (time traveler), she looks like Amber Rayne who works at San Francisco based Kink.com. What is the actual title of this movie? Greg, YikYakker and Ralphus, I have enjoyed your discussions on realism of hard to watch scenes versus abbreviated scenes of mainstream productions. I watched Ms. Stiletto two weeks ago, in Italian with English subtitles. That scene where Brigitte Skye stabs her enemy in the face during his rape attempt, heck, she was dressed in a topless bikini gypsy like a la harem girl outfit, very skimpy and later is transformed to a woman being flogged wearing a dirty over-sized loin clothe for modesty sake, go figure. That was a great 5th YouTube interview from our Jane. You can tell that she was very uncomfortable talking about how it was to be tortured, especially on the Spanish Horse. Margot posted back in January 5th, 2011 that has a passage about Jane on that wooden horse: http://ralphus.net/archives/gimp2011/jan11.html if my GIMPers find problems with this URL, go to the archives and click on January 2011, it's there. |
Name: | Eda Chang |
E-mail address: | asiangirl342333@yahoo.com |
I finally watched Maleficarum, and, even after all I had read about it, I was absolutely stunned!! The quality of the cinematography, sets and costumes gives the film a definite sense of "big budget theatrical release," which is completely unexpected for a film in this genre. As much as I have enjoyed other films in which the fearless Amy Hesketh/Jane von Detlefson has appeared (like Agent X), none of those presented a film of this technical quality and eye for detail. While the torture scenes are incredible (a lot more about that below), the film does not rush into them, but takes the time necessary to properly to set up its story and characters, and does so with a calm that very much contrasts with later events. For a time, in fact, I was convinced that the head of the church, the women's main accuser, truly was interested in saving their souls, rather than in taking their money. While the viewer certainly knows that things will not go well for Lady Francisca [Mila] when she does not immediately agree to the church's request that she continue the large donations made by her parents, the background music remains soothing, rather than ominous, and continues in a low key fashion throughout the film, thereby adding to the contrast of what is happening in the scenes over which it plays. Even the opening questioning of the two women is understated, although Lady Mariana [Amy] gradually becomes more terrified as it becomes apparent that the charges against her are far more serious than her mere involvement in the minor altercation that leads to the appearance of the two ladies before the inquisitor tribunal. The juxtaposition throughout the film of the scenes in which the head inquisitor calmly questions the many witnesses against the women with the scenes of Mariana and Francisca being brought to the dungeon, stripped, chained to the wall and then subjected to a variety of tortures designed to obtain their confessions was masterful, effectively portraying that what lay just beneath the facade of a calm search for the truth was unimaginable tension, terror and pain. The dungeon set, as expected, offers a sense of absolute doom and dread, with its hard, cold stone walls and dim flickering lights. The ways in which the director, Jac Avila, has the two women chained and stretched make it obvious that he knows how to create, consistently, scenes that are visually appealing and exciting to the viewer, while, at the same time, magnifying the horror facing his subjects. Both Mila and Jane are absolutely beautiful in their extended whipping scenes, during which both show proper reaction as the pain builds as their tortures harshen. Jane's whipping scene is particularly brutal, since she is forced to hang by her chained wrists with her feet off the ground, her body swinging with each lash, a position that, on its own, certainly must have caused great pain to her shoulders. Nor are there any weak flicks of the wrist from their torturer, but full arm motion with every blow. Whatever filming techniques may have been used, it is impossible to believe that Jane and Mila were not subject to some real pain during the filming of these whipping scenes. And their reactions remain consistent with their characters, with one stronger than the other (as their characters remain throughout the film). Mila and Jane are also both stunningly filmed in their respective scenes on the rack, the beauty of their stretched and sweating bodies, backs arched off the rack's table, enhanced by the varying camera angles, particularly the shots from the overhead camera. There is no bend in their wrists or knees, which are shown chafed and bleeding as the ropes securing them dig deeply. While the viewer does not expect that the women are actually being stretched to their absolute limit, it is certainly easy to believe that they are, which, after all, is the goal of good filmmaking. Repeatedly in the middle of the torture scenes, the men from the church enter, calmly ask whether the tortured women are ready to talk, and then, just as calmly leave to allow the tortures to continue when the women refuse to respond. Unlike the large majority of the film's viewers, the men from the church are not excited by the torture of naked women, but simply want their confessions and the transfer of their wealth to them. That they are such cold pitiless men adds to the terror of the women's plight. Other of the torture scenes are out of the norm even for films in this genre, and have never been done as well as they are here on those very few occasions where they might be found elsewhere. I can't say more about them in order to limit the "spoiler" content of this review. That is not to say that I do not have some criticisms of the film: (1) While Amy is an excellent actress, Mila does not yet have the training or experience to match Amy, but I expect that Mila's acting will improve with time, and this criticism relates only to Mila's delivery of her dialogue, as she gives an excellent performance in her reactions to her tortures. (2) I would have preferred that Francisca and Mariana not have been subject to the same tortures (for example, the same whipping and rack tortures), particularly not one after the other, during the first half of the film. I also would have preferred a torture to Francisca other than a repeat whipping after her sentencing. (3) I don't know why Mariana's clothes were put back on before she was taken outside, only then to be immediately removed again. Nakedness indoors has a degree of privacy, while nakedness outdoors exposes one, at least figuratively, to the whole world. So leaving Mariana naked when she was moved outdoors would have, I think, more realistically and more strongly conveyed the sense of increased psychological exposure that the film apparently sought. (4) The ending, which I can't reveal for "spoiler" reasons. I have several thoughts as to why the particular ending was chosen, but, even if my suspicions are correct, there are several other possible endings that I would have preferred. In the present poll, I gave my vote to spies over witches, and that remains my preference. But, as I also said when I gave my vote, that did not mean that I did not enjoy a good story about accused witches. And Maleficarum is a great story about accused witches and more. My grade: Solid A. And the only reasons I do not give it an A+ are: (1) the ending; and (2) it's about witches, not spies. Now be fair: Have you ever graded a GIMP film an A? And, if you have, was that film better than Maleficarum? |
Name: | A Canadian |
Eda Chang wrote: Have you ever graded a GIMP film an A? And, if you have, was that film better than Maleficarum? I'll take a stab at this. On the first question... yes, I have handed out some A grades, and even a couple of A+ grades. Question 2 ... Were those films better than Maleficarum? Probably. Since Reine Margot says it will be quite some time until Maleficarum is released to the general public, I can't give a definitive answer. But I'm pretty confident that when I see Maleficarum (hopefully by some time in 2012) I won't be thinking it is better than some of my favorite films. Here are some reasons why I say that:
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Name: | Eda |
E-mail address: | asiangirl34233@yahoo.com |
I guess I should have modified my previous question and asked it only of people WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN MALEFICARUM, and so aren't just guessing and speculating and extrapolating but actually know its contents. |
Name: | Fritz |
Yuji Kotorida: Your pictures continue to impress me. Please keep 'em coming. This one is absolutely outstanding. Can you, or anyone, tell me from where it came? A Canadian wrote: If the still pictures are anything to go by, one of the stars of the movie is below average in the looks department. You must be referring to the frizzy-haired gent tying up Jane in today's pic. Oddly enough, he didn't do much for me either. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Eda Chang wrote: I guess I should have modified my previous question and asked it only of people WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN MALEFICARUM, and so aren't just guessing and speculating and extrapolating but actually know its contents. Suit yourself. I say there's nothing wrong with informed speculation. Think of it this way: Newt Gingrich has never served as president of the United States. Therefore, at this point, assessments about whether or not he would be a good president are simply speculation. And yet, if there were a GIMP-related reason for the question to come up, I'm sure Ralphus and jhlipton would be prepared to speculate. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Fritz wrote: Yuji Kotorida: Your pictures continue to impress me. Same here. Especially this one (which may not technically be a GIMP photo, but I don't care). I agree with Fritz, keep 'em coming. |
Name: | Eda |
E-mail address: | asiangirl342333@yahoo.com |
In response to my comments about MALEFICARUM, A Canadian -- whose participation in this forum I love -- wrote: I say there's nothing wrong with informed speculation.... Newt Gingrich has never served as president [so] assessments about whether or not he would be a good president are simply speculation. And yet, ... I'm sure Ralphus and jhlipton would be prepared to speculate. The problem that I see with this analogy, A Canadian, is that MALEFICARUM is not speculation. It is not just a storyboard of a few photos, but is a completed, full-length motion picture that many people have had the opportunity to see. I would instead offer you the following analogy: Suppose Newt had already been elected and served as president, but you had been stranded on a tropical island for that whole time with no source of news beyond a few captionless photos of Newt that washed ashore. When you were finally rescued and asked how Newt did as president, you certainly could speculate (and I guess we could debate how "informed" your speculation would be at that point), but others would know. Years ago a friend asked me to watch a film that he had rented, THE KILLING FIELDS. I knew what it was about, I had seen still photos from it, and I knew that it was not a movie that I would enjoy. But I watched it anyway ... and it became one of my 10 favorite movies of all time. That said, I cannot really dispute that A Canadian knows himself best, so his speculation as to his own reaction to the film is likely accurate. I guess I just couldn't pass up a war of analogies!! Best to all this holiday season. This forum has really been rocking of late !! |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/reviews/other/maleficaruma.htm |
Heroone: I'm pretty sure you're right, that photo Yuji posted definitely looks like Amber Rayne. She was also the star of Blakemore's comeback movie a few years ago for Backdoor Bondage, which was covered pretty extensively on his interview page. Blakemore loves her, calls her the best model he's ever worked with.
------------------ Eda Chang: Wow, your first official review (after about 37 stories). I really enjoyed what you wrote, but then, this isn't exactly the first time I've made that statement. Welcome to the mostly male Reviewers Club fraternity. We're glad to have another lady in our midst. The direct link for your review is in my Homepage URL above. ------------------ A Canadian made a few challenging statements. The BATS clip posted on YouTube was pretty weak. Granted, you can't post much on YouTube, but it's still a red flag. The BATS clip was 17 seconds long! How you gonna judge a feature-length movie based on 17 seconds? And incidentally, the section of the BATS scene that was clipped was actually the best part of the burning scene. I think the clip itself was very good, BTW. ...the fact that many of the pictures are boring isn't a good sign. Boring for you, maybe. We've gotten nothing but positive responses from everyone else. Hmmm...who's wrong, one Canadian nitpicker or 1200 regular readers? It's very difficult to believe some of the stuff in the movie will pass the test for good erotica. Like that branding scene that was featured the other day. If that actually works as erotica, I'll be shocked. Leave it to a rape guy to not understand the appeal of a hot branding iron torture scene. Not everyone likes that form of torture, but for those of who do, all the branding scenes in the movie were quite stimulating as erotica, thank you very much. There are clearly some flaws in the film, such as the clothed rape scene. Finally a point that makes sense, although if you watch the rape scene, it's actually quite intense. Should we have seen some skin during the scene? Yep, and the scene would have been better if it were longer. It's a flaw only if you're not into torture and only want to see the movie for the rape. But then if you're not into torture, this is the wrong movie for you, anyway. If the still pictures are anything to go by, one of the stars of the movie is below average in the looks department. A valid concern, since one of the girls doesn't do much for you. But I know you like Jane, and she's the star of the film. But again, if you're not that much into torture, well... I really don't think you should even rent Maleficarum. It's obviously not something you would enjoy, the same way I likely wouldn't enjoy the rape movies you praise to the heavens that have little or no bondage and show the "rape victim" riding the rapist during the act. It's all just a matter of personal preference. |
Name: | John Galt |
Eda and A Canadian: Limit comments to people who know what they're talking about? Where's the fun in that? Still, I think A Canadian wasn't so much criticizing a film he hasn't seen yet as listing reasons based on copious publicity, reviews and comments here on the forum why he personally might not be that impressed by it. And really, what use are movie reviews if they do not provide enough information to make a few informed decisions about the movie? The single bullet point that probably crystallized why some people might not be as blown away by the movie was his questioning how well the movie qualifies as erotica. A close second was the observation concerning the clothed rape scene. My Opinion: Maleficarum is a fantastic flick for the torture aficionados but not so much for the rape aficionados. While I think it surpasses many expectations in many ways, I think it lacks in the erotica department, at least for those not turned on by torture. Ralphus speaks for the torture crowd when he says: Leave it to a rape guy to not understand the appeal of a hot branding iron torture scene. Not everyone likes that form of torture, but for those of who do, all the branding scenes in the movie were quite stimulating as erotica, thank you very much. Personally, I prefer my erotica to have a heavy dose of sex and violence, and I definitely want the rape scenes to feature a naked victim. That's a valid criticism anyone can make based on pictures and reviews without having to watch the film. That doesn't make it a lesser movie, because no movie is going to satisfy everyone, but if your idea of GIMP moviemaking bliss is at least one good, brutal rape scene with a naked victim, this particular movie will not inspire superlative adjectives. By the way, Eda, that was a great review. You should do reviews more often. |
Name: | A Canadian |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/reviews/zfx/zfx_voodoodolls2.htm |
I was remiss in forgetting to congratulate Eda on her first review and thanking her for her efforts. I agree with John Galt that we are all well served when we receive detailed reviews and other information about GIMP movies, and it's great to have our writer-in-residence slumming with the hackers in the Reviews section. I hope we will see more Eda Chang reviews. ----- Ralphus wrote: Leave it to a rape guy to not understand the appeal of a hot branding iron torture scene. I tend to bristle a little bit at being defined as a "rape" guy, as I also enjoy a good whipping or electric-shock torture scene as much as the next GIMPer. Last I had heard, Rick Masters wasn't planning to see Maleficarum, and he's hardly someone who can be pigeon-holed as a strictly-rape guy. I will admit, though, that branding scenes don't do much for me. Sometimes, Red Feline surprises me with scenes that are hotter (ahem) than expected, such as the crucifixion scene in Agent X, but I'm not holding out hope for the branding scene. The wooden horse scenes likely won't do anything for me either, based on past experience. And I'm skeptical about the burning at the stake scene. In spite of all that, I do intend to rent Maleficarum if and when that option becomes available. I want to see the whipping scenes, at least. I'm also curious about the "spit" scene. ----- So, other than those "rape" movies that I praise to the heavens, what's my idea of an 'A' movie? How about Voodoo Dolls 2: Ritual, an all-Lisa flick that was upgraded just this morning with some video caps. Thanks, as always, to Ralphus for his assistance on this renewal project. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
A Canadian wrote: I tend to bristle a little bit at being defined as a "rape" guy, as I also enjoy a good whipping or electric-shock torture scene as much as the next GIMPer. Oooh, I made Canadian bristle! According to my Webster's dictionary, the number one definition of "bristle" is "to be stiff and erect". Okay, that wasn't my intention, but I'm glad I could help. The whole "rape guy" and "torture guy" labels are obviously generalities, not meant to be all-inclusive. On the whole, though, I think they're fairly accurate if you had to classify us in the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions. Even though I'm a "torture guy", I love a good rape scene, as do most of us. But almost everybody here has a preference. Probably about half the site are torture guys, the other half are rape guys. It's like Elvis men as opposed to Beatles men. You can still like both, but there's always one you like better. Give me a choice as to what I prefer to see in a movie? Torture. Give you the same choice and I guarantee you'll say rape. How long have you and I been doing the best and worst lists every year, six or seven years now? And every single year your best movie is a rape-themed film, mine is full of torture. Vive la différence. And just in case anyone wants to know, I'm also a Beatles man, too. |
Name: | Lynn |
E-mail address: | l_beria@yahoo.com |
The post about "Kim K gets grilled about..." and the comment that the poster wonders how many people know what really hides behind that still common phrase, got me to thinking... "He/she racked her brains to remember..." "I'm beat" / or / "I'm whipped" "We'll sweat it out of her" "She was hung out to dry" ...and those are just off the top of my head. Anyone who thinks of some more, please post. |
Name: | Lynn |
E-mail address: | l_beria@yahoo.com |
I have a question for Amy, specifically from the latest part of the interview. Amy repeatedly said that there were days when she felt "terrible" after filming being tortured. Was that terrible, as in physically sore all over (particularly from the horse?), or psychologically terrible, having spent the day thinking about what it must have been like for Marianne - to realize that this was how her life would soon end - that in fact, for her, there had been NOTHING left to hope for? |
Name: | Scribbler |
Homepage URL: | http://www.daringheroines.com |
Lynn: Phrases like 'rack one's brains' 'hung out to dry' 'beat around the bush' 'fit to be tied' 'tied up in knots' 'crack the whip' 'on the ropes' are called idioms. Just google 'idiom rack' or idiom with any other word you want to find included in an idiom, and well, there ya go. Have fun. |
Name: | YikYakker |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/reviews/mainstream/loveletters.htm |
So much going on here lately...there's a lot of discussion I'd like to jump in on. But first I want to address the question posed by Eda. Eda wrote: Have you ever given a movie an A in a review? If so, was it better than Maleficarum? The best rating I could come up with in a review was an A- for Jess Franco's Love Letters of a Portuguese Nun. This was a well-done movie. But so is Maleficarum. In fact, if I ever get around to doing a review, Maleficarum would also get an A- from me. I try to avoid comparing one movie to another. These two both deal with the theme of religious-authority-as-evil; but they are really very different productions with different purposes. GIMP-wise, LLPN has only a few, but outstanding, scenes of torture and one rape. It is primarily about psychological torture and manipulation. The performances, settings and costumes are excellent. The style is story-telling through dialog. Maleficarum also deals with psychological torture and manipulation, includes good performances, settings and costumes. But it has infinitely more physical torture, it's based on a true story, and the style is story-telling through a mixture of narration and dialog. BTW both had rape scenes in which the victim was not naked. Franco had a big(ger) budget and a more accommodating environment in which to to work. Still, I judge each movie on its own merits. So both movies get an A- because each, in its own way 1) was exemplary in making the best use of its resources; 2) told a good story infused with prime GIMPage; and 3) had some flaws - which is where the minus comes from.
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Name: | A Canadian |
If I were one of the beautiful people, I'd definitely want to tap Kim Kardashian.
However, only a fool would marry her. |
Name: | InterrogationMaster |
Homepage URL: | http://youtu.be/35b_UqGYZgw |
So I noticed while watching the trailer for 'Act of Valor' that Roselyn Sanchez, who plays a CIA agent in the movie, is briefly seen captured and tied up AOH. It looks like she has been tortured extensively and the movie has also been rated R specifically for "strong violence including some torture" so I'm extremely hopeful for this one. I've been dying for a mainstream movie to realistically depict a female spy being interrogated and tortured. :) |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
InterrogationMaster: Very nice find there on Act of Valor. Based on the snippets we saw in the trailer, this one looks like it might pay off in a big way. Roselyn Sanchez is an attractive woman, and it looks like she's tied up at least twice and gets beaten up pretty good.
I know it's a contradiction, since I normally preach against bloody scenes because too much blood covers up a woman's beauty. However, facial bruises and black eyes...that kinda turns me on. Obviously, it's not PC even on this site, but I think it's a sexy look. I'm not sure if I can fully explain why, either, but I'll try. Most women take pride in the way they look; a lot of times their face is their most valuable asset. So I think that pummeling a woman's face and intentionally making her less beautiful is just another way to defeat her, to hurt her. It's a form of torture in that's painful, obviously, but it's also destroying something they care deeply about, their looks. Since this last poll question has pretty much died down, I'd like to start a new one and see if I'm the only sick fuck who likes to see women beaten and bruised. GIMP POLL: Honestly, this is a question that should, in theory, get a lot of people posting, since seemingly everyone should have an opinion about this one. But keeping it to yourself doesn't help the site, so you know what to do. Take a few minutes and give us your opinion. I guarantee you'll be glad you did. |
Name: | MAV |
Great AOH catch interrogation master!! Roselyn Sanchez is a piece of ass, and it's great to see her strung up AOH in a fairly skimpy sleeveless shirt. Having had Rhona Mitra's 2 minute AOH torture scene and Minka Kelly's 40 second AOH torture scene in about 12 months, I think us AOH torture fans have been spoiled with hot chicks in that predicament, so I'm gonna set expectations low and predict a brief 20-30sec scene, with only implied torture. As far as the poll question, since I like torture vs. rape, I'm okay with a little blood and light bruises. The pic of Roselyn strung up AOH and bruised is probably as beat up as I'd like the woman, but prefer just a little blood and no bruises like Rhona Mitra in her Doomsday scene. |
Name: | Thawkinsworth |
E-mail address: | Thawkinsworth@yahoo.com |
Longest post I've ever made, but here goes. Not a fan of beatings or facial damage. I understand that humans don't touch each other on the head unless intimately or to provoke a fight, so in a real world interrogation, obviously strikes to the face (domination and fear) would be part of the deal. However, I'm all about the fantasy, not the brutality. So girls getting kicked, beaten or punched simply turns me off. The scene from Salt featuring Angelina Jolie was too brutal for my tastes. Its a fine, unexplainable line for me, really. I can be excited by a whip, cane, rack, branding iron or electro-torture device, but get angry with an interrogator who uses what I can best describe as "uncivilized" methods. To expand on it a little, I don't like bullies. I like James Bond type villains who have it all thought out ahead of time, and don't have to resort to brute force... but rather intelligent interrogation/torture methods that produce fear and compliance through mental coercion. A futuristic robot programmed to do things like monitor heart rate and other vital signs, inject drugs to keep a victim from passing out, administer electric shocks, and perform a combination of doctoral and interrogational techniques in a systematic method is more appealing (and frightening) to me than some big guy going crazy and beating on a woman. Even better is for the torturer to be a man of patience who seems to enjoy the breaking down of the victim, not someone acting in a brutal fashion. As for torture vs. rape fantasy... For me, its torture. Torture to the point of surrender where forced rape is no longer necessary. I guess again, forced rape is too brutal and uncivilized for me to get into. I'd much prefer a scenario where the woman is already restrained, and breaks down mentally and begs for anything but torture. She'll bend over, suck or even ride her abuser with her arms tied (a super-hot fantasy that I never see much of on the web) to avoid another stroke of the lash or jolt of electricity. Perhaps a beautiful, strong-willed woman who wouldn't break down mentally under torture would offer up her bits and agree to ride her interrogator with her hands still tied overhead, just to avoid seeing one of her friends tortured any further. Perhaps her friend was an informant, but not a trained spy, and therefore is much more terrorized by the techniques used on her. So the lovely woman that could not be broken is suddenly giving up something her boyfriend seldom even gets. This would be Hot HOT HOT!! And anyone writing a spy interrogation scene may freely take that idea and run with it. Thanks everyone, and goodnight. |
Name: | Bman |
E-mail address: | Bialyguy@aol.com |
I would say no brutal facial beatings but yes to dark eyes or bruises. I'm a real fan of sweat facial and otherwise. The point of brutality and gore is best illustrated in a scene from K-3. A perfect blonde inmate is tied perfectly to a medical chair, spreadeagled. Instead of slowly interrogating her she is mutilated with a knife, hammer and pliers. Both ok to a point however it should be gradual not just brutal. And for god's sake pay special attention to her perfectly shaved and exposed pussy. |
Name: | Greg |
Facial beatings? Has to be a no for me really. Like spanking, I think it's just that I prefer an instrument, quite apart from the fact that punching and thumping a woman's face is not going to do a whole lot for her appeal. All in all, I think it's just a bit too uncivilized and brutal. Whipping and caning may not be civilized and should indeed be brutal, but it's almost as if a little thought and effort has gone into the situation and of course there's the ritual attached to the affair. Tying, stripping etc etc. Well that's my opinion anyway. Greg |
Name: | BP |
Homepage URL: | http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/maleficarum0960.jpg |
Oh, the weather outside is frightful: But the fire is so delightful: And she has no place to gooooooo |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
POLL: What's your opinion regarding bruises or black eyes on female victims? Is it appealing, or does having the girl's face sullied ruin the fantasy for you?
If welts count, we know that whipping guys like SOME bruises -- it's just a matter of how much. I personally like bruises -- I want the victim to suffer horribly before I put her out of her misery. I don't care as much for black eyes, but anything that doesn't ruin the tits, nipples or pussy is fine with me! The more the merrier!
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Eda: Thanks for the review. It hasn't changed my mind about "M", but added a lot of detail to the film.
It is not just a storyboard of a few photos, but is a completed, full-length motion picture that many people have had the opportunity to see.
Canadian is not making a guess as to whether the story will involve him emotionally, but whether it will satisfy him erotically. To that end, I think that stills are a good indicator. Good acting can enhance a scene, but it's been my experience that bad acting worsens what looks like a hot scene.
In the case of the "The Killing Fields" (which I haven't seen), there is no way that words or pictures can describe what the film conveys. So, from an emotional point-of-view, you're right. We would probably feel more pity for Francisca and Mariana, but, again, that's not the nature of Canadian's complaint.
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Ralphus: who's wrong, one Canadian nitpicker or 1200 regular readers?
Ah, the "10 million horse flies can't be wrong" school of criticism! LOL. Seriously, appealing to the tyranny of the majority is a weak, weak, response to what is a personal reaction to a movie.
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John Galt: My Opinion: Maleficarum is a fantastic flick for the torture aficionados but not so much for the rape aficionados.
I am as much a torture aficionado as a rape one, possibly more, but I find that the torture from RF doesn't excite me as much as it should. The two stars are beyond good-looking, but they just don't get me going. Just My Opinion as well. |
Name: | Badger |
GIMP Poll: Black eyes and bruises are not my cup of tea. A good shot to the chops or two is great, but a beat down is a bit too much. On the other hand, I love a good fist to the gut and the resultant doubling over.... followed by the fun that can then be had with the breathless victim. |
Name: | mr bush |
What's your opinion regarding bruises or black eyes on female victims? Is it appealing, or does having the girl's face sullied ruin the fantasy for you? Not a big fan of bruises or black eyes, however I love smeared mascara and eye liner as if the women has been crying while she is tied. In my mind is a way of breaking a prim and proper proud woman and make her look broken. |
Name: | mstrerotic |
To each his own. I don't find beatings with fists or clubs sexually exciting. I'll even go as far to say killing someone, either by hanging or burning is a complete turnoff. But again, everyone to his own taste. I find the fantasy of quiet, skillful torture to an attractive, well built woman of about 40, under interrogation, to be the most exciting. First, on the rack for an hour or two, second, after being fully stretched far beyond herself and still being defiant, watching as they heat the irons and the thin needles. First the heated pincer used on her breasts and nipples...then, heating the needles for under her toenails....this could be a wonderful fantasy, exciting and stimulating...and I repeat...fantasy. Now if if Amy and Margot would make this movie, I would purchase 10 copies...smile...I hope I have others here who might have a similar fantasy. |
Name: | thx1139 |
E-mail address: | thx1139a@lycos.com |
While I don't find anything other than very light indications of bruising, etc. appealing, the act of physical violence itself is a huge turn on for me as long as it's not terribly realistic and is more of a "Hollywood" variety. The scene from Irreversible, for example, was disturbing for me to watch. But well-done production-wise scenes of a topless or nude girl getting slapped, beaten, etc. seem to be rare (or even mediocre ones for that matter). |
Name: | Greg |
Just want to say, I really appreciate this site posting a good few pictures of Maleficarum. It looks an awesome movie and one I would much like to see in full, but alas, since my bank balance is embarrassing the mice that live here this year, I'm gonna have to pass it over. Please continue to post, though I think it seems we are drawing to an end. I'd just like to say, I think the series has been incredible. Now a word about these Japanese things that seem to be descending like a plague here. I have to admit I don't know much about them...No, I know FA about them in truth, but from what I see it seems high on production and bondage and little else besides. (Please accept I am prepared to be swayed on this). But if we are gonna start guessing about non-mainstream movies, well there's only one to really discuss. Do we open Pandora's box?? |
Name: | John Galt |
Personally, I like my victims to remain impossibly attractive. Bruised and battered faces and bodies don't do a thing for me. Indeed, they diminish my appreciation of a good GIMP scene. It is unrealistic, of course, but really if I'm going to be honest I freely admit that erotic, stylized, but explicit sexual violence where the devastatingly beautiful, helpless and naked female victim endures brutal punishment but never bruises and seldom bleeds much is what I enjoy most. I'm not in it for the realism, which explains why I could never be a lifestyler. Just give me the brutal but sanitized fantasy, please. |
Name: | A Canadian |
John Galt wrote: I freely admit that erotic, stylized, but explicit sexual violence where the devastatingly beautiful, helpless and naked female victim endures brutal punishment but never bruises and seldom bleeds much is what I enjoy most. Exactly. In fact, if the victim never bleeds, it's OK with me. |
Name: | elkcreek |
E-mail address: | michiganimages@comcast.net |
On the polls, Spy, and a bit of blood or bruising. I don't like seeing a victim disfigured, but a little trickle of blood out the noise or split lip and a couple of bruises adds to the realism. One of the things I dislike about the Giga-Zen and Ring Divas heroine stuff is that several of their victims get hit in the face multiple times with no bruising. Speaking of which Meng Lau (Empress Suraye) is coming back to Ring Divas, hopefully Girls of War will get a good sequel with some imagination in the screenwriting. |
Name: | Scribbler |
Homepage URL: | http://www.daringheroines.com |
Wouldn't care for black eyes or bruises in bondage fantasy movies, but a harried look, disheveled hair, some reddening from face slapping, or spanking or paddling or whatever... works for me, long as she looks hot. Or as John Galt says: impossibly attractive. Great phrase BTW. Yep, no deforming damage for me. To previous poll: I say spies. And more specific for me, spies from roughly the 60s or after (bond girls, Emma Peel, Black Widow, etc.) well into the future (scifi). I even shot a super-spy themed vid in 2004. Hasn't seen the light of day for various reasons, but it was pretty soft so I don't think anyone here is missing anything. |
Name: | Greg |
I guess I would have to go pretty much on what mstrerotic commented. A good racking scene has to include the babe exhausted and wet with sweat much as we see in inquisition. That is pretty much the perfect racking scene and the sweat is, to me a very important element. After that, well the guys have the babe naked and open. There's your canvas guys, go paint on it. I fail to see any stimulus in death however portrayed, but some slow executions might hit it for me. Crucifixion or maybe an old, biblical stoning, but after that I'm left pretty much cold. BATS and even the much discussed and vaunted spit roasting of the delicious Jane would do nothing for me I'm sure. So the torture on the rack can continue and can pretty much anything goes, including the placement of hot irons on all parts of the body. The inner thighs, soles of the feet and between the toes spring to mind. Then they can start to wax lyrical on the toenails and fingernails. With twenty of the little pinkies to play a tune on, I guess the babe would be singing loud and hard by then. Oh and guys, don't forget the old thumbscrews, a simple but atrociously painful little device. This is all pretty brutal and cruel stuff and all too often I'm puzzled by this predilection of mine that demands every time I see a pretty woman I wonder how she would look stripped, hung and flogged. Why do I want to see her in pain? I have no idea why, but it is something that really is hardwired into me. I didn't learn it and I have had it since I was at least five years old. Of course, over the years I have refined and honed the fantasy, but its bare bones remain and are as visible as they ever were. Torture turns me on. However, the one caveat I would say is the old one that many slot in. 'It's only a fantasy' and that's true with me; it really is. Real violence and fortunately for me I have not witnessed vast amounts and certainly not nearly as much as many, but real violence disturbs me. Like the above mentioned, it's film violence, sanitized that I enjoy, the same way I like my meat from the butchers rather than kill it myself. When I see a scene that depicts torture, it is made clean and nice and I often wonder if those that make the scene see the sexuality in it, or is all that in my head and made up by me. I don't know about that too much. Some films depict real violence, (flogging in the main), but it is consensual, or at worst just for the money, and there again, I have no problem with that. It's not uncontrolled violence driven by hatred and fanaticism. Dear me, this has got very heavy, but those vectors for violence I guess are the ones I fail to see any eroticism in at all and it is a guess that most gimpers here would be the same. We are a sad bunch, but apart from what many might say, an essentially sane bunch whose wires got crossed as our gonads developed inside the womb, little else. That's my excuse, if you like you can find your own. Greg |
Name: | jhlipton |
E-mail address: | jhlipton@yahoo.com |
mstrerotic: I don't find beatings with fists or clubs sexually exciting. I'll even go as far to say killing someone, either by hanging or burning is a complete turnoff... First the heated pincer used on her breasts and nipples...then, heating the needles for under her toenails....this could be a wonderful fantasy, exciting and stimulating
I think I've found my GIMP opposite. These are completely flipped for me! To each his own, indeed! LOL.
For my fantasies, a good hard belly punching, with attendant bruises, is light foreplay. It should be followed by kicking and whipping, then multiple rape. A nice, slow, painful and humiliating death -- by a few well-placed stabbings or a thin wire tight around her neck -- that will always get me off. |
Name: | Ralphus |
E-mail address: | ralphus44@aol.com |
Greg wrote: This is all pretty brutal and cruel stuff and all too often I'm puzzled by this predilection of mine that demands every time I see a pretty woman I wonder how she would look stripped, hung and flogged. Reminds me of the fake "motivational poster" I made up a few years ago for Lucyboots' old blog:
The poster sums up how I feel. I really do think they look better that way. So next time you've got a girl in your clutches, tell her she should be thanking you for improving her looks :) We are a sad bunch, but apart from what many might say, an essentially sane bunch whose wires got crossed as our gonads developed inside the womb, little else. Good way to put it, my friend. But just imagine how much more dull life would be if weren't wired that way. |
Name: | Bill K. |
My view of how much bruising and blood in torture and bats victims I like to see fits perfectly with what Maleficarum had (showed). Reading on Dungeon tortures methods/devices what that torturer(s) did to Jane and Mila they should have been much more bloody and black and blue ugly bruised then what they were. My understanding the rack torture alone would have left them crippled and unable to walk and likely in agonizing pain just to move. So Maleficarum showed just enough bruising and blood for me to make it enjoyable without turning me off. Bill K. |
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Name: | A Canadian |
Ralphus wrote: Reminds me of the fake "motivational poster" I made up a few years ago for Lucyboots' old blog. Funny stuff. I wonder whatever happened to Lucyboots? |
Name: | BP |
A Canadian wrote Funny stuff. I wonder whatever happened to Lucyboots? Now that name brings back some memories. She was a member of my group and I asked her if that was her and she said yes and she graduated. After that she went away even from my group. |
Name: | YikYakker |
All I know about Kim Kardshian is what I gather from leering at magazine covers in the supermarket checkout line. But it's my understanding that lately she has been criticized for her extremely short marriage to an extremely tall dude. Well Kim, here is my advice: Become a GIMP. Pursue and accept an acting role that requires you to be stripped, tied up and tortured, or violated. Playing a victim will win back some sympathy from those who now loathe you. If you perform well, GIMPers everywhere will embrace you. Your world will be bright again. To get such a part, you'll need some GIMP cred, so here's what to do: Photoshop the Princess Jasmine picture that Thawkinsworth posted the other day. Put a gag on your mouth to cover up that smile. Draw some binding around your wrists, rope or chains, whatever, as long as it makes you look like your arms are secured from overhead. Maybe a few light whip marks on your belly. There you go. No need to thank me...seeing you get GIMPed on the big (or little) screen will be my reward. |
Name: | Fritz |
Poll: For me, the sight of a woman's badly beaten, bloodied and bloated face is not very erotic. In fact, those PSA's against domestic violence which feature battered women staring blankly at the camera are actually meant to be revolting. I imagine for the most part they succeed. Admittedly, there are wound and corpse fetishists who enjoy this sort of thing, but I suspect they are a very rare breed and have as much in common with GIMPers as does the bug-crush community. Still, I prefer to see a victim bear the physical consequences of her ordeal. As a heavyweight aficionado, I'm not averse to lots of wounds and blood, even on the face, but I suppose it gets too extreme even for me when the woman's beauty is completely obscured. If I can no longer recognize the victim as an attractive female, she could just as well be a guy, an old crone, or a gorilla. Earlier discussions about BATS revolved around this same issue: most thought it okay to show blemishes, bleeding and reddening of the skin during the early stages of the fire, but few wanted to see the charcoal-encrusted aftermath. As the face is so crucial to maintaining a woman's beauty, cuts and bruises above the neck can be far more disfiguring than those on the torso and limbs. Even a swollen black eye can be a turn-off for me. On the other hand, blood spurting from the mouth and nose, bruised cheeks or a cut across the forehead would be okay. My preference has always been towards stylized violence rather than raw realism, and this is another case where I'd rather see an eroticized interpretation over what happens in real life. elkcreek wrote: I don't like seeing a victim disfigured, but a little trickle of blood out the noise or split lip and a couple of bruises adds to the realism. One of the things I dislike about the Giga-Zen and Ring Divas heroine stuff is that several of their victims get hit in the face multiple times with no bruising. Superheroine and femme-fight producers are notorious for beating the stuffing out of their girls without spilling a drop of blood or showing so much as a broken nail. What's ironic, is the level of punishment these women endure is way beyond that shown in videos which do feature wounds. I guess being a superheroine has its advantages. Nonetheless, I still enjoy some of the GIGA films, though I've pretty much given up on Ring Divas. If you do want to see some superheroine blood, you might try Zeus (a GIGA subsidiary). They finally are allowing downloads outside of Japan, and if you can afford $30 to $50 for a full-length video, you can enjoy offerings featuring the sort of wound effects missing from GIGA/Zen. Just be careful what you wish for (check out the JSPR line). |
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Here's an image that some folks in this group might enjoy. http://www.bcotd.com/Animal_Naturalis_demonstration_to_promote_vegetarianism_in_central_Barcelona_2011-12-15.jpg
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