yesterday i check out the new movie

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good stuff - check it - pics in my group.

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LTL: You asked me about Goldie Blair and the custom I had her make... Let me say her price was AMAZINGLY reasonable, she was very nice and kept in touch with me throughout, and did an awesome job, with a rapid turnaround time. I could not be more pleased.

Just saw that she has a Nicheclips site called "DamselX" (http://nicheclips.com/shop.php?store_id=27). Just the fact of her having a Nicheclips site pretty much means there's no gimp material out of reach...

As for that scene you mentioned, I am quite sure it was also in the original. And I agree that it jarringly stripped away the realism of the movie, and thus lessened its disturbing nature. The film does a good job of playing with the audience's emotions, but that scene went too far.

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DHT Just saw that she (Goldie Blair) has a Nicheclips site called "DamselX"

That's pretty much how I knew of her (from Nicheclips that is). She's also appeared in a few other of the stores there. Can't really remember which one's right now, other than maybe COH.

Ralphus: Ya there, man? No postings since Saturday, let us know you're around!

Let's not forget, Ralphus is going to be transcribing that Blakemore interview from now until well into the foreseeable future.

Ralphus, if we don't get a chance to talk beforehand, let me be the first to wish you a Merry Christmas.

As the website mentions, the movie is slated for a release next summer, although there is no distributor signed up yet.

Ralphus: Ya there, man? No postings since Saturday, let us know you're around!

What, I can't take a day off from posting? If you see the pictures change at midnight, breathe easy, I'm around. If you see all the HTML mistakes in LTL's posts suddenly get corrected, I'm here. It's either that or I'm lying unconscious somewhere and Bill Zebub is running the board for me because he feels guilty.

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LTL: Thanks so much for gracing the board with 2 more excellent reviews. I've seen the original Funny Games (well, in fast-forward, anyway) and I was aware the director was remaking it shot for shot in English. That can only be a good thing, since the original female victim was rather matronly and I couldn't get into her scenes at all. Naomi Watts, on the hand, is one of the few actresses over 40 that still looks hot and do-able, so I have high hopes for this one. It's in my Netflix queue.

The direct link for your review is in my Homepage URL above.

I wasn't about to invest 90 minutes into watching Saw III, but I did see the frozen girl scene. Nicely done, especially if you're into taking a bound naked woman and turning her into a human popsicle. Me, I'd rather set her on fire, but it's all good. Tomato, tomahto.

And your link for this one is right here: http://ralphus.net/reviews/mainstream/saw3.htm

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Sardu: Speaking of mainstream movies, I finally got around to checking out Shuttle last night, which you reviewed here a while back. You're right, a worthwhile film, albeit a bit light on the actual bondage (although you didn't mention the part where the two cuties are strapped into their seats and the bad guy gags both of them with an ace bandage wrapped several times around their heads).

But...I really liked the carbon monoxide asphyxia scene with the blonde victim and especially the finale where the last remaining victim finds herself crated up and headed for a lifetime of white slavery. Very cool ending! A nice way to spend a couple hours (even if it kept me from posting...hope you guys get over it).

BTW, if you want to assign a letter grade to Agent X, let me know and I'll put your comments in the Reviews section. I think there's enough there to include it as an actual review, whether you meant it as one or not.

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The Killer Inside Me trailer: Damn it! I knew it! Yeah, Jessica gets her ass beaten in the trailer, but she is definitely NOT tied up. I'm the one who broke this story on the forum back in April when I came across the actual script online: http://www.opus1.com/musefilm/SCRIPTS/kim.pdf

I didn't read the entire script, but if you skim to just Jessica's character's scenes, she's tied up, attacked or brutalized in just about every scene she's in. And yes, the script called for nudity; there's at least one scene where she strips down to show off the bruises on her naked body.

Here's the actual passage from the script:

He throws her down on the bed, yanks her kimono off and ties her feet together with it; her hands with the long cloth belt. He takes off his own belt and raises it over his head.

And this is followed by the beating you see in the trailer. But again, now that it's been filmed, she is clearly not bound in this scene at all. What a pisser. And mark my words, I'm sure she found a way to skip out of the nude scenes, too.

Jessica, Jessica, Jessica...girl, I'm so disappointed in you. ANOTHER wasted opportunity, and if this was your big chance. Any future Jessica Alba project is going to be greeted by me with a shrug and a sigh. Give it up, my former girlfriend. You're pretty but you don't have what it takes to realize your full GIMP potential.

You guys mentioned Bella Morte so I checked it out, since I think Wednesday Harrington is way hot... but there was a model there named Elizabeth who caught my eye. I've seen her on the Into The Attic website ( http://www.intotheattic.com/ ) and I wonder where else she has done work. Anyone know?

Concerning "Funny Games" and the shot for shot remake the director did with Naomi Watts rather than the more matronly German chick - the director has been interviewed on several occasions as to why he would remake his own movie and go so far as to construct a house to the exact specs of the first one - his reply has been he thought it to be a really fine movie but, now get this, the subject matter was more applicable to American society and culture than it was to German society and culture - really Michael? - guess you would subscribe to the notion that a few deaths are a tragedy and millions are a statistic - or is it that notion that government sanctioning makes murder ok? - yes, those zany Euros at it again.

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Funny Games: A movie both versions of which I hate more than just about any movie ever made....

Hmmmm...and why is that? I think I have a clue, because if I recall correctly, you're pretty heavy into the "damsel in distress gets rescued" scenario, right? And I'm pretty sure the female victims in both versions meet their demise at the end. But geez, isn't that literally at the very end of the movie? Does that mean you couldn't enjoy the previous 90 or so minutes of peril that preceded it? What if you were to shut off the DVD before the last 5 minutes and just not watch it? A fatal ending shouldn't necessarily negate the rest of the movie, especially if you're watching it specifically to see women in peril.

A lot of us get our mainstream fix by watching horror films, since they seem to be the most adept at showing us women in merciless peril. However, by the very nature of its genre, it often ends up badly for the girl in trouble. Face it, in a horror movie, lots of people suffer and/or die, including the women (he said with a smile).

And not just in horror films, but in some bondage films, as well. In the Red Feline films, including Agent X which we've been highlighting recently, Jane's character ends up bloodily nailed to a cross and expires on camera. Does that mean we can't enjoy the previous tortures she experiences beforehand?

In ZFX's Goon Squad 2, which we ran stills from not long ago, Amber Bliss was burned with a heated screwdriver and later bloodied by being tied up in barbed wire. The last we saw of her, she was left covered with nasty red scars all over her body. No happy ending there (except a one-line text sentence at the end saying she was "released" at the end). Even for ZFX, it was a particularly brutal denouement for her character.

Which brings us to our newest poll question:

GIMP POLL:
If, in a movie, the female victim gets badly hurt, bloodied or killed, does that ruin the fantasy for you? Or, does it actually make it better? How far is too far, in your opinion?

Let's hear what you guys have to say. This is a subject that I'll bet a lot of you have strong opinions about, so don't be shy in expressing them. The only wrong answer...is not to post at all.

Oh man….now what am I going to do with that autographed copy I was gonna get you for Christmas? ;-)

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GIMP POLL:~ If, in a movie, the female victim gets badly hurt, bloodied or killed, does that ruin the fantasy for you? Or, does it actually make it better? How far is too far, in your opinion?

This answer may surprise you. (coming from me) As you may know (or not) I enjoy bondage and asphyxiation….but it doesn't necessarily need to be a fatal end. I know Rick (ZFX) has teased us a number of times where it looks like the victim has met with her demise only to come to later and run off (opening the door for sequels).

Actually to get to the poll question, I think I'm kinda middle of the road. Funny Games as an example, with the f*cked-up scene in question, I was really hoping that Naomi was going to escape. But then that may have a lot to do with how irritating (in an effective way) the villains were.

PKF on the other hand, I think I might feel cheated if it's not a fatal ending. But even with that, I would love to see Lexxi come to later and escape…only to run into another predicament (worse) later ….in the same clip or sequel. I guess it really depends on each individual situation.

But to be more specific to the question, a fatal ending would not ruin it. Too much blood and gore would.

I'm a big fan or interrogation scenes but a trickle of blood from the side of the lip and/or one nostril (as in the Doomsday or La Femme Nikita scenes) is as much as I can take. Continued torture is great but I'm not a snuff guy so death messes it up for me.

There are some exceptions I can tolerate. In Dagon, the lovely naked victim suspended over the monster's pit was first drizzled with blood (not hers) as a way of luring the fiend. I was OK with that. And it would not make sense for a whipping victim to show absolutely no bloody marks after a long workout (see Jane, Perils of, Episode 1). What I mostly object to is the victim being bloodied up - or killed - before the opportunity for bound torment presents itself.

I also enjoy the fantasy of being the rescuer, so I prefer that the rescued damsel would still look at least somewhat attractive after the ordeal. After all, she would be eternally grateful for being saved, and willing to express her gratitude in a very desirable way.

To all you veterans out there, we will always remember - and it is Remembrance Day in Canada as well for our friend A Canadian - ditto there.

Yik Yakker - if I'm not mistaken the lovely victim in Dagon, Raquel Merono, was laid on a stone altar and cut repeatedly by that chick we will call the "Fish Queen" - I believe that was her own blood and not drizzled on her prior to her being suspended, in a great scene by the way, and lowered down to Dagon - I will give it a view manana just to make sure.

Poll question - well, even one as wanton and mean spirited as I has limits - my limit is best shown by the flick "Murder-Set-Pieces" where most of the victims are so gore splattered one has trouble recognizing a human much less a female - otherwise, since in the end it is your fantasy, do as you wish with her - in the hands of her tormentor it is his to decide - that means you as you are the fantasy tormentor - let the flick give some direction and take it from there in your own mind - so I guess on balance I don't care at all if she gets whacked - I certainly don't want to see her riding off into the sunset with the hero who came to the rescue - I hate happy endings :)

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For me, to see a lovely woman degraded, rendered helpless, made to suffer terrible pain -- YES!! (Especially if it makes her sweat a lot. I LOVE sweat.) But mutilated, disfigured and/or killed -- BIG turn-off. I prefer the victim still alive and without any permanent physical damage after a torture session. Otherwise, it's just a waste of a good woman.

Of course, as Ralphus pointed out, you can just ignore the ending if it's not to your taste. I can enjoy watching our darling Jane being stripped, bound, and subjected to all sorts of interesting tortures, even though I'm not really into the whole crucifixion thing.

Got to say that Project 237, Sandra Vol. 3 (can't find the others) and the Kidnapper are some of my favorite pieces of bondage art of all time. So thanks to him!

Mostly -- LOL. What ever "shots" you've taken are forgotten -- we're cool.

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She is allowed to put her bra and panties back on, then has her hands duct taped behind her back.

For a clothed scene, that looks pretty hot.

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Do they actually show the death scene? That would be too awesome -- I doubt they do.

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POLL: If, in a movie, the female victim gets badly hurt, bloodied or killed, does that ruin the fantasy for you? Or, does it actually make it better? How far is too far, in your opinion?

I don't like a lot of blood, but beaten or hurt, OH YEAH!!!! If she's killed, it depends on how she's killed. It has to be at least somewhat protracted, and clearly painful. Extra points for nudity. I much prefer the death scene in Hostel 2 (that's nicely done!) to the bondage scenes. If any of the girls had been topless while they were tormented, it might have shifted the odds in their favor.

If there's interest, I could start an ID on DailyMotion with my favorite kill scenes from mainstream movies.

GIMP POLL:
If, in a movie, the female victim gets badly hurt, bloodied or killed, does that ruin the fantasy for you?

For me, the answer would be yes. Blood, gore, and death definitely ruin the fantasy for me. Not to mention the fact that I simply can't stomach it. I often shy away from some of the harder stuff that most of you would probably enjoy simply because it would make me nauseous. My inability to stomach some of the harder stuff may make me seem weak, but that's the way I am and I don't think it's going to change anytime soon if ever.

Now a quickie mainstream review. I just caught the DVD Summer's Moon with Ashley Greene of "Twilight" fame. She is very pleasing to the eyes and makes an excellent victim. I thought it was definitely worth checking out. The movie starts out with her hitchhiking looking for her dad who abandoned her. The guy who picks her up and attempts to assault her. She pulls a revolver out of her bag and the guy is subdued (no action there). I guess the first scene was done to give her toughness cred.

Then she gets picked up in a bar, bangs the guy. She gets up in the morning to sneak out, and the guy tells her she can't leave. She pulls her gun, but the guy's mother knocks her out from behind. She wakes up and is tied down in a loose spreadeagle on what looks like a legless table. She's wearing a sleeveless T-shirt and a bikini bottom. We see her struggle a bit and at one point he chokes her to discipline her. All in all there are about five scenes with her tied in this position.

Then she is allowed upstairs and tries to escape and she's leg chained in the basement again. She slowly gets the guy's trust. In the meanwhile he captures a fairly hot blonde (great body-fair helmet). She is tied arms overhead. Then the guy's father comes home and he kills the other girl while Ashley watches.

The overall gimp value of the film is about a B. If Ashley would have been slapped around or victimized a bit while tied it would have been much higher. She is in two sex scenes but both are very consensual. Worth the rent.

The nude ice freezing scene in Saw III made the whole movie for me, but the fact that Jeff was too frickin stupid or selfish to take off his robe and cover the woman while he went for the key pissed me off. I would have liked to have seen the girl traipsing through the movie, naked in a wet robe for a few scenes... but that's just me. But damn, what a sexy assed, bondage/ torture scene.

The target areas are Soft flesh. Breast, stomach groin sometimes neck. Bullet wounds in the forehead leave me cold. Quick deaths or off camera are mostly disappointing. The short films I make are in many ways meant to finish what mainstream movies tend to start but not deliver. A beautiful woman being frightened, hurt and murdered while still remaining beautiful. Blood is good but no inside parts coming out. Too gross. No body parts severed as it ruins the form of the female.

I like the style of many early film female murders. The victims seem to manage to keep their femininity while dying. But rarely is there more than a quick murder scene. I'd like to do prolonged 50's style murders without censorship. I also plan on doing more bondage and torture with murder. I've only done a few scenes like that so far. But I have ideas. I have ideas. And I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any.

On another note, we're offering free shipping in our DVD store until November 15th with the code FREESHIP. Cheers!

You shouldn't have to. You are, after all who you are.

[ Ralphus …escort this clown from the building.]….Just kidding ;-)

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jhlipton wrote: …we're cool.

Cool!....now I can razz ya with a clear conscious. ;-)

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Also wrote: (the victim dies by freezing to death) "Do they actually show the death scene? That would be too awesome -- I doubt they do."

It's a really long scene (for mainstream) as the girl interacts with someone who could save her (as Sardu mentioned). After a short while she gets sprayed briefly with water, then later she is sprayed again while the guy tries to get the key. She doesn't die on scene per se, but is shown frozen in a thin coating of ice by the time the guy finally comes back with the key, turning her literally, like Ralphus put it…into a human popsicle. Very lickable at that!

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Scot wrote: …. Especially if it makes her sweat a lot. I LOVE sweat.

I'm with ya there. Plus it's such an easy illusion to add to a scene that I don't know why it's not done more often. Just spritz ‘em down.

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Elkcreek ~ Thanks for the review of Summer's Moon. Hadn't heard of that one either and sounds like it would be an interesting view…Gimpwise.

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Sir Bruce~ I've known of your work for a while but honestly never paid too much attention. Mainly I guess for what is a lack of (or perceived lack of) nudity.

While that may be somewhat ok in mainstreams, any fetish material that makes it on my radar definitely does need to have lots. Otherwise, IMO, what's the point (as all the death fetish purists scowl).

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GIMP poll: If, in a movie, the female victim gets badly hurt, bloodied or killed, does that ruin the fantasy for you?

For me, it's the threat of death, blood-letting, dismemberment or other nasty circumstances that really excites me. When done properly, the scene should have the victim, preferably hot and naked, struggling mightily yet futilely, against her bonds to stay alive.

Take the Heather Matarazzo torture in "Hostel 2." She's naked, gagged in inescapable bondage as well as confused and absolutely terrified, especially when the countess scrapes her skin with the scythe. Nearly perfect in my opinion. But when the blood starts pouring out, that's when the GIMP scene ends for me. The same goes for Bijou Phillips. A nice bit of terror until the moron accidentally slices her head open.

Death doesn't bother me so much, but I always think it's a waste of a good victim. And there's probably nothing more frustrating when a hot woman is killed quickly via decapitation, gunshot to the head, or other unimaginative manner.

How far is too far, in your opinion?

Sloth mentioned "Murder-Set-Pieces" as an example of too much gore. I agree. In fact, I don't like any blood, even a bloody nose, on the victim. I guess I'm a bit of a "clean" freak because even dirt or mud on the victim lowers the quality of the GIMP action for me. Sweat is OK, as are welts, but I prefer the victims to be clean.

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Elkcreek: Thanks for the heads-up on "Summer's Moon." No gags? Awww.

Well, this movie called The Disturbed is now on my radar.

I'd much prefer to see a knife held up to the victim, then her stabbed with it with some blood than a dissection. My main gripe is that all too often the victim is hurt/killed first and then stripped... it should be done the other way around, and for goodness sake show the girl's naked breasts or ass when the violent act is occurring... if I want to see a bare back or only a face when she is being abused I can turn on the TV (which I have no interest in). Gee, did I leave anything out?

I do like bloody Stories though.

Can I join the chorus at saying how incredibly hot Jane is in these pics? Or should I say, Our Jane. Hey, wait a minute, I can address her directly :) ... Jane, you look awesome!

With respect to the poll question, can't say I have limits in films per se but a lot depends on how well it's done. But there's nothing worse than little or no marks or blood from a beating, whipping or torture. In most cases I don't enjoy the blood and gore that comes with amputations or disemboweling nor do I include such things in my own writings. When there's no limit imposed, how far you go illustrates your limits.

Caught the second episode of the new V series and can report that the 'nightmare' torture used so effectively on Faye Grant the first time around is back. BUT, it's used on a semi-naked GUY (what else is new) who is lying down unsecured on a platform-device being tormented by snakes on his chest. We can only hope they find a better use for the device.

Included a link for the complete version of The Abduction of Lorelei the infamous xxx roughie. Picture quality is what you would expect and it looks like it's from a greek subtitled print. It's a story about a rich white girl kidnapped and held for a million dollar ransom from her parents. Her new friends decide to entertain their guest while waiting for payment.

Till next time.

That scene is one of the best GIMP scenes in a TV show from the 80s. One of my faves. We can only hope that Ms Mitchell's clothing is similar to the guys in the scene from Tuesday night... lol.

Yes, I know. My poll answers are repetitious and predictable. At least I'm consistent.

Seeing a girl's body marked or welted by a whip or a burn, something that will heal, as one does pretty realistically on sites like Elite Pain, Paingate and WhippedWomen does add to the excitement for me. I find the fake blood (some of the Red Feline stuff toward the end) to be a bit over the top for me.

Obviously, in the real world, raping a woman changes her entire life, and certainly real torture would as well. In the fantasy, though, she can suffer, scream, fight to get away, eventually submit and live to fight another day. Once she is dead, that's a sign to me that the game went too far...it's over. That's not what I want.

Pretty much yes. Like, I didn't like any of the scenes in BLOODSUCKING FREAKS, despite Ralphus's Oscar winning performance. I haven't seen THE GIRL NEXT DOOR and I probably won't ever see it, because I think the Sylvia Likens case is so sad and it makes me so angry that it happened.

In my scenes, what I like is intensity. So, in the Bella Morte scenes I recently bought cuz I like Wednesday Harrington and that "Elizabeth", I enjoyed the scenes up until the characters died. Ditto some of the Dahlia Delis clips I have, I even enjoyed seeing her get choked, but not at the point where her character died.

Speaking of Funny Games, this is the review/comment I wrote for both versions on the IMDB. I hope it will provide some entertainment:

I CALL BULLSH*T

This movie is about a family who is tormented at gunpoint and murdered one by one by two jerks. That is all it is about.

Now, a lot of pretentious, obvious smut peddling has gone on over this film. Over and over again you will hear how it is a "scream of anger directed at the viewer" and garbage like that, as if the film's creator is really some kind of peace loving, soulful artist who just wants people to think. I call bullsh*t on that, for the following reasons.

1. The kind of viewer who actually has sadistic reasons for watching violence in films to some problematic degree is not going to be affected by this kind of thing...they are going to BUY it, and they are going to LOVE it. The director, with all his "angry screaming", did nothing more than make them some more porn. We are talking about the "Faces of Death" crowd. This is a very small, private minority. The majority of filmgoers do not need or deserve this lesson.

2. When people complain about violent movies, the typical scenario they are talking about is a good guy who must take on powerful bad guys, and gets his ass kicked most of the time as he kicks the bad guy's asses back. I don't know anyone who likes watching children tortured, terrorized, and killed on film. So who is the FUNNY GAMES lesson for? People who already don't like to see it? They will not like to see it here, and that is no surprise. People who DO want to see that happen? Well, they will be delighted. There are very few movies that feature anything like this, and the idiot who made this movie gave those perverts a big present, wrapped in a shiny bow.

3. People tend to do what they want to do. So, if a filmmaker makes a horrible, sad, offensive, obscene movie and then turns around and acts like he felt forced to make it to teach someone a lesson, he is full of sh*t. He isn't trying to teach a lesson, he is trying to bring his sick fantasies to life, like any pornographer. The fact that he can claim to hold some moral high ground as he hands the viewers a plate full of sh*t, and makes impressionable people think they should feel at fault for what he himself did is just a joke he is playing on the viewership. He is laughing his ass off at how he made a something horrible and perverted for his own kicks and thrills and got people to call it art.

The bottom line is, you can't fight violence in films by making one more violent film. And the director knows that. It was never really his goal anyway.

Something really gory is a turn-off, at least for me. I prefer seeing a cultured female, unfamiliar to degradation forced into it under the watchful eyes of men, and shocked by it--"how dare you do this to me!" During the course of it, the masochistic excitement she might derive from it, an embarrassment, a secret she has to hide. Also, a writer does a great service if he portrays feminine submission as a strength and not a weakness, where ironically, by withstanding pain, perhaps surprising herself by her resilience, she's really in control of the situation, which in turn, justifies the further actions and anger of the tormenter.

Above all, there has to be a dramatic purpose to whatever she's going through. This is a point a lot of filmmakers and authors overlook--just WHY is she suffering? Is the reason something closely and intimately associated with her character, a worthy or critical enough goal? If it isn't, it's all show and no story. Why should we not have the opportunity to feel that it's as important to us as it is to her? That's a valid principle in storytelling whether in erotica or any other genre. Violate it, and you cheat the reader or viewer.

Just a few insights from a guy who's given a lot of thought to his own creation.

YikYakker - yes, you are watching too many of these :-) - went back and viewed "Dagon" again just for kicks - you are correct, that Macarena chick is a knockout above the waist - and Raquel, glistening with water and trickles of blood in suspension bondage, naked, struggling in terror as she is lowered to be raped by a tentacled sea demon - Stuart Gordon got it right on that scene.

jhlipton - posting favorite bondage kill scenes? - count me in - just do me one favor and throw in a good hanging scene for my gratification.

DHT - after reading your review I get the distinct impression you didn't like "Funny Games" - I didn't much care for it as a flick but sure enjoyed Naomi imperiled and bound for a good part of the film - on a more serious note I must point out you have violated section 4 paragraph 2 of the Gimp Manual - it clearly states "and under no circumstances will 'Bloodsucking Freaks' be portrayed in a negative light" - the council will meet tonight to decide the punishment for such blasphemy.

cannon - hey, thanks for link to "The Abduction of Lorelei" - one of the first roughies I ever viewed and haven't seen it in years.

Brutus - "The Disturbed" looks like it has a lot of torment going on - more than enough in fact to make up for what appears to be a happy ending - will check that bad boy out.

Elkcreek - and ditto on "Summer's Moon" - did I hear Brutus say no gags? - still, the chick is alluring and the premise sounds nice - thanks.

Sir Bruce - I just did a cursory scan on your nicheclips stuff - is there any bondage with these - went through quick and didn't see any.

Jane von Detlefson - am now using a still from "Agent X" as my screen saver - the wife is REALLY happy about that :-).

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I looked at your NicheClips page and your films look interesting. I don't care for hand strangles, but adding belly punches to a demise sounds great -- and the preview pics look nice. (And **THANKS** for spelling "a lot" correctly.) If I come across a bit of extra cash, I might take a look.

Would you consider doing something like JohnM has done and put together a teaser of your films? It would help me decide whether or not to buy a film.

Thanks.

LTL: Cool!....now I can razz ya with a clear conscious. ;-)

Umm... yay??? :-)

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any fetish material that makes it on my radar definitely does need to have lots.

I can enjoy a REALLY good scene if the girl's not nude (or even topless). The first strangle in The Lawyer and The Bodyguard, for example, is very nice. But bare tits definitely add to my enjoyment of a scene.

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mothbrad: Or should I say, Our Jane.

Now I'm hearing Lou Reed singing "Sweet Jane" in my head.

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Sloth: jhlipton - posting favorite bondage kill scenes? - count me in - just do me one favor and throw in a good hanging scene for my gratification.

There won't be much bondage in the kill scenes I'm afraid. Just peril, pain, titties and death.

The URL is above. More videos as I add them.

Oh, well -- I thought that might happen.

Ralphus' Oscar….I remember that ….wasn't it the year he beat out Brando?

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Another one that's gotten on my radar is Karla since I found out Laura Prepon stars in it. Then I noticed that A Canadian had reviewed it (figures he'd review a movie about a Canadian based story. What a homer….Oh hey, what's up A Canadian ;-) Kinda disappointed when I read that Ms. Prepon isn't one of the victims. I was hoping it was going to be similar to the story Shawnee Smith starred in a few years ago where she plays a rape victim to a serial killer but is kept alive in part due to the fact that she had been previously raped, and therefore didn't react he way the killer expected her to. BTW, anyone remember the name of that movie?

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jhlipton wrote: ~ …account on DailyMotion. Even though I only posted scenes from mainstream movies, my account was deleted…

Bummer. Thanks for trying though!

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Semi-scowl?...Semi…Scowl?....Well I guess that's better than a full scowl ;-)

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I know I should be last person to point out typing errors, but when Sloth wrote: “struggling in terror as she is lowered to be raped by a tentacled sea demon”.

Since she's going to be raped….shouldn't that be a testicled sea demon?

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Anyway…..

Mini mainstream review of Rest Stop 2.

Rest Stop 2

On a short leave from the military, Tom and his girlfriend Marilyn plan a trip out west to L.A. On the way, they plan to retrace the route taken by his brother, who went missing a year earlier. Tom's friend tags along as he has had a long standing crush on Nichol, Tom's brother's girlfriend who also went missing. Along the way they stop at a gas station where Tom shows a picture of the missing couple to the store owner. “Yeaugh I remember them…for $24.95 I'll tell you everything I know.” They follow the lead they are given and end up having to stop at a rest stop where Marilyn needs to use the facility. When she finishes, Tom is nowhere to be found. Sound familiar so far?

Isn't it funny how both male characters disappear after the girls use the facilities in both parts 1 and 2. Actually more unimaginative than funny I think. They could have, at the very least, reversed the roles and have the female disappear while the guy uses the john. I know they would have ended up with an entirely different picture at that point….but more likely, and quite possibly, a better one.

Only one Gimp scene here as Jessie Ward who plays Marilyn, and a major improvement over the girl in the first one IMO, has a nice segment where she gets tied AOH in a seated spread position and tortured with a power drill.

Entertainment wise: I thought the first one was average at best. IMO, this one is a step in the wrong direction as it suffers from an identity crisis, not knowing whether to be a torture sequel, or a ghost story. An actress shows up who is supposed to be Nichol from the first one, who ends up having sex with the lame friend. Though she appears full-bodied, she's actually a ghost. I say lame friend because even Marilyn comments “Wow, you finally get laid…and she's a ghost.”

This one is also another example of the horrid trend of equal-opportunity torture films, as it has 3 or 4 guy bound/torture scenes. Grade, an all too average C

Gimp wise: No nudity in the Gimp scene as Jesse Ward's segment has her tied in bra and panties. Fairly long for a mainstream though. She is first forced to watch as her friend has his eye removed, and then she herself gets tortured with the drill. A little too gory for my tastes as they actually drill her a few times. Grade C+

If, in a movie, the female victim gets badly hurt, bloodied or killed, does that ruin the fantasy for you? Or, does it actually make it better? How far is too far, in your opinion?

Not for me. I can remember as far back as when I was a child enjoying the concept of playing dead. I have a feeling it was the combination of looking at Playboys and True Crime/True Detective magazines that warped my view. In addition, I remember sneaking down and watching HBO when I was 7-8, all that sex couple with violence, I am sure imprinted. My childhood was complicated, but I certainly had loving parents, so any imprinting was in the form of fantasy and what I wanted to see in movies.

Teenage years are a blur to me, but I remember in my late teens and early 20's making clip tape of hot girls getting killed in horror and other types of movies. So, that association has always been something I enjoy in fantasy. With Hollywood making it clear that only gorgeous women can have sex and die in films, it is no wonder this association stuck.

In fact, it stuck so well, I started a company around it. :-)

But, there are things that would certainly be a turn off for me. Anything with excrement fake or otherwise, is gross. I don't like nasty face wounds or anything that distracts from the actresses beauty. Like, the scene in I think it was Hotel 1 or 2 where the hot redhead got the saw stuck in her head and then had to be finished off later. I knew she was a hot actress and I knew the scene was fantasy...and below her face was still looking good, but I just could not get past that amount of graphic destruction of the face to make it work for my fantasy.

But, that being said, if there are good views of the girl, good death stare afterwards, I am pretty happy.

Thanks,

JohnM

But here's my question for you all...just what is the audience for these male torture scenes? I understand the impetus to show "equal opportunity" torment. But who gets off on these scenes? Chicks? Gays? Just wondering.

LTL, thanks for the review on Rest Stop 2, it was pretty close to my take although I give it a B- for a mainstream. First Jessie Ward is so effin hot. Second, it was a fairly long scene. Third, she pulled it off as an actress. The movie itself though was ridiculously bad.

Brutus, Thanks for the heads up on the Disturbed it has potential, I love water torture, no blood, lot's of gasping for breath. Good stuff. One other one to keep an eye on is "Zellwood" it is a horror movie starring Sara Jean Underwood (perhaps the best PMOTY EVER!). Their are no photo's I'm not even sure if it's started shooting yet. One other one that is out in Europe is "Slave" starring Natassia Malthe. I have no idea, the stills tell me nothing, but she is hot.

As far as the question. I have never had a fantasy inflicting violence on a women myself, I don't even want to "role play". But there is something about a hurt helpless victim that I find stimulating. I'm not condemning others for their own unique taste, just stating my own. One of the things I like is a good stomach punch, I remember in the movie "The Ladies Club" when the first victim got punched to begin the rape sequence to me that was the best part. I like women who are helpless and being interrogated. But I don't like women who are killed or bloodied to the point of a bloody pulp. A real torturer would do it slow, with lots of struggling before he began to disfigure someone.

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Hello everyone!

Regarding the poll question, I'm definitely turned off by the "extreme" variety of sadistic, purely masochistic (simulated) "snuff" porn on there. Movies like "Snuff 102", and so forth, where the woman is just beaten and punched repeatedly until she's a bloody mess, or her fingers are cut off just for the "heck" of it ... that's a total turn off for me.

But an "elegantly" done snuff fantasy can definitely be a turn on for me.. For instance, I remember a film a while back ("Die Watching", or some such thing) where this beautiful buxom blond was duct-taped to a chair, topless, and her mouth duct-taped. All well and good, but then the attack trained a video camera on her, but the video feed on TV in front of her, and proceeded to duct-tape her nose shut as well. The girl got to "die" watching herself struggling for air..

A scene like this is highly erotic to me, esp the way it was done in that particular movie (buxom blond, and the way she is bound and struggles).

Another quality fantasy "snuff" scene is in those Isla movies, where a Jewish girl is stripped nude, hands bound behind her back, and forced to stand on a block of ice w/ a noose around her pretty little neck. All is well and good (for now) -- so long as she doesn't slip(!) -- but as time drags on, the ice melts, and as the ice melts, the noose tightens, eventually strangling her.

Again, imho, a very erotic and very well done snuff fantasy..

And in terms of extreme torture, I remember back on the old YouTied site, Ralphus, that you posted a clip of a blond girl hogtied w/ barbed wire. I think that scene was "fake", in the sense that it wasn't really barbed wire, and the "blood" on her body was fake, but again very effective and highly erotic (imho). Another example in the same vein, I've seen hogties where for instance, the ankles are not hogtied to the wrists, but rather to a noose around the victim's neck.. the tighter she kicks w/ her legs, the more the noose tightens, eventually strangling her.

Such a scene could be embellished, for instance, either by tickling her (forcing her to kick her legs), or -- more sinisterly -- by putting a bag over her head and tossing her into some water ... either she drowns or strangles herself: her choice.

Sinister fantasies, but in that vein they hold some eroticism for me.. but the blood and gore type stuff that you get in the Snuff 102 or Hostel type stuff is a turn off for me..

Question for Le Marquis Divin: I love that little clip of the "Whipping Girl" that you link to. Did you produce that yourself? What software did you use?

She's in a white pair of shorts (if I remember right) in the beginning and all the way through until the tied scene. I just kinda assumed they were panties cause that's what she would have been wearing underneath the shorts she had on. I do see what you mean as far as them looking like shorts though. Probably some type of athletic-type under-garment. But no, the picture is representative to what you see in the segment.

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Yik Yakker wrote:~ But here's my question for you all...just what is the audience for these male torture scenes? I understand the impetus to show "equal opportunity" torment. But who gets off on these scenes? Chicks? Gays? Just wondering.

I wonder that myself. Certainly not me! To me it's just an annoyance…unless it's done in a way that contributes an integral part to the storyline and not just for gore's sake.

I can't imagine chicks getting off on it. And I'm not sure an accurate answer is to be found here. One of the great mysteries of life I guess.

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BTW, not sure but I think it was you who mentioned they were interested in seeing the Spanish horror flick To Let. I found a box set of Spanish horror flicks called 6 Films To Keep You Awake. In addition to To Let it has 2 others I have seen. Spectre is another really good Spanish horror flick too (though no Gimp…a near miss Ralphus scene, but the person perceived as being a witch is shown after the burning) but A Real Friend, the third film I saw is just so-so. Don't know about the other 3 in the set. They have it at CD Universe and Half.com…probably Amazon too.

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Elkcreek ~ Thanks for letting us know to keep an eye out for Zellwood & Slave. I'd be interested to hear more about them when information becomes available.

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MasterDetective ~ I like the way you think! The block of ice hanging-for-entertainment-centerpiece in the Ilsa movie is a classic! Way too short though.

My ideas (fantasies):

If she doesn't talk (submit - whatever), she must be kept alive to be tortured again... as often as necessary.

If she does talk, she is released to spend the rest of her life knowing she was NOT tough enough...

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Elkcreek: Thanks for giving us the skinny on Summer's Moon. This is one that I've been keeping an eye on for quite a while, even back when it was called "Summer's Blood" I'm not sure I understand why the title change...but I suspect they renamed it and just happened to release it on DVD within 2 weeks of the release of Twilight: New Moon (which, big surprise, also just happens to feature Ashley Greene). Hmmmm...

Anyway, Ashley Greene is a gorgeous piece of meat, only 22 and apparently has no problem showing off her naked bod for the camera, since it's fairly easy to find nude pics of her on the Internet (good career move, sweetie). I knew from the trailer that she would be tied up but it's bit disappointing to learn there's no gag. But she does get choked while tied up, so at least there's a bit of extreme action. This is one I definitely plan to check out.

The direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

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Brutus wrote:

For me, it's the threat of death, blood-letting, dismemberment or other nasty circumstances that really excites me...Take the Heather Matarazzo torture in "Hostel 2." She's naked, gagged in inescapable bondage as well as confused and absolutely terrified, especially when the countess scrapes her skin with the scythe. Nearly perfect in my opinion. But when the blood starts pouring out, that's when the GIMP scene ends for me.

Excellent example. That scene wasn't nearly as much fun once the blood shower began. It's the anticipation of bad things happening that is really the key to Girls In Merciless Peril. The actual blood, gore and death? I did like seeing her suffer and die, but to me, the blood was excessive and it was not erotic at all to see the girl get literally covered in the stuff.

BTW, thanks for the heads up on The Disturbed It looks like a lot of fun, all except for the ending where the victim turns the tables on her attackers (don't you hate it when that happens?) The IMDB doesn't even have this one yet, so it may be a while.

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LTL: Thanks for taking the time to review Rest Stop 2 for us. I actually rented that film a few weeks ago and thought the power drill torture scene with Jessie Ward was one of the better mainstream scenes I've seen this year. That was a case where, in keeping with the current poll, the victim was both bloodied and badly hurt, but she sold the suffering so well that I thought it was a turn-on. Of course, the only thing that got bloodied was her leg and not her face, so that helped. And she survived the ordeal, too, which is not necessarily a good thing because nothing else happened to her the rest of the way.

The direct link to your review is here: http://ralphus.net/reviews/mainstream/reststop2.htm

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Yik Yakker asked:

But here's my question for you all...just what is the audience for these male torture scenes? I understand the impetus to show "equal opportunity" torment. But who gets off on these scenes? Chicks? Gays? Just wondering.

Maybe masochistic men, is all I can think of. Maybe they picture themselves in the role. It just doesn't make sense, though, why we're getting this huge role-reversal. The thing is, obviously, men like to see women tied up. And women? They also like seeing women tied up. I'm not sure what they think about rape and torture scenes, though.

Maybe the filmmakers figure women will enjoy seeing the tables turned on men, and since it's apparently not PC anymore to show women as victims, they figure this will give the audience what they want. Sorry to say, but it's more acceptable to torture a guy anymore. They are the stronger sex, so I guess they can take it, right? But going after an innocent woman? That's wrong, we can't have that. And no nudity, either, that would be exploitive. I swear, they must all be following the same twisted logic, the same unwritten rules.

We need someone to break through and make a really misogynistic movie and have it become a huge hit. If people had flocked to theatres to see Hostel: Part 2 the same way they did the original Hostel (a sausage fest) then we would be getting more films like that. But money talks. That film flopped, and we're stuck with more male torture films. When will the filmmakers ever learn what we really want to see?

Not into snuff.

Not into horror films.

Blood, doesn't really do anything for me. A little drip here and there usually not a bother, but a lot is a turn-off.

Pretty much I'm into bondage fantasy for the rough sexual access, rather than mean-spirited horrifying and extreme hurt inflicting. I don't really know how to explain this, but I prefer the girl in peril to feel inwardly sexually aroused, even though she's completely non-consenting, doesn't want it to happen, protests, looks sad, and yet her body can't help responding, pussy can't help getting wet, feeling like a sex object with all the hands-on, ropes-on, dildos-in, pussy-rubbing that's happening to her, which is happening to her cause she looks so good and she knows it.

Of course, comic book superheroines like Wonder Woman and Supergirl can take more hurt than normal humans, so it's OK to throw them a mile or so into a building. Spank them with a huge steel beam. They can take it.

And we've had similar discussions like this before, so I feel like I'm repeating myself, so I'll stop now.

I give Agent X a B. There is a lot to like here, but the persistent problems of lame bondage and JJ's personality in the Red Feline moves is frustrating.

The drill scene in Rest Stop 2 was great... but unfortunately, that was the highlight of the movie. Nothing much else happened otherwise... and the premise of the movie allowed for it. I mean, the guy kidnaps people and tortures them to death. Once again, the one who gets the best bondage and the worst torture is a guy.

Hostel 2: The Elizabeth Bathory torture murder is a classic GIMP scene... the girl suffers, there is nudity, and it's a woman doing the torture... interesting. But, as with Rest Stop, this was the highlight of the movie. The one girl takes a saw to brain and is turned into a vegetable. Her death is off screen. The other chick manages to talk her way out of it.... are you frickin' kidding me??? The story itself degenerated into complete silliness... with children playing soccer with another woman's head. That's why that movie failed... it was a bad movie, plain and simple.

Hank just emailed out a great quality clip of "Invitation to Ruin." The two GIMP scenes in this movie are probably some of the best ever done. The one girl starts the scene strapped full spread eagle on the bed, has her clothes ripped off and has forced sex with the guy (she does seem to enjoy it a bit too much though). The other girl, is hung full spreadeagle, front and back whipped and has a burning piece of bamboo shoved up her hoo ha by the fat ugly dyke bitch. They just don't make 'em like that anymore... lol.

The HOM info in the web says it started in 1965, but I only noticed it in the 1970's when the owner publisher Barbara Behr turned her scenario creators loose. Some familiar names like Campbell and the artist Bishop appear in the web articles, but I think there was a set of photographers who really pushed the envelope. I am sure one of them was Rick Masters. HOM after many years of really hard edged work went 'politically correct' in the late 80's or early 90's when Behr sold out.

Masters seemed to have moved to Florida? and started ZFX?

I am not dead sure about all this.

I noticed ZFX doing videos with the same hard edge HOM had. ZFX started out with a line of DVDs, but seem to be only on line now.

The odd thing is that among a hundred or so ZFX videos there are a few erotic demise stories, HOM never did this tho, as I have said, it looked like that was where the scenario was headed , never showed 'what happened next?!". (TAO productions is the only other BDSM company that did a few erotic demise stories.) I exchanged email with Rick (I think it was Rick?) once and asked why he didn't get into the N----ro-babe world.

Was totally bewildered when he wrote back to say he did not do N^^^rophilia stuff . I wrote back to say you could erotic mayhem and demise without Ne####phillia! I could not get through to him what the concept was... never have figured that email exchange out!

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Hostel 2: The Elizabeth Bathory torture murder is a classic GIMP scene... the girl suffers, there is nudity, and it's a woman doing the torture... interesting. But, as with Rest Stop, this was the highlight of the movie.

Well, it was the highlight in that it was the only nude bondage scene, and not only that, a nude bondage upside-down suspension scene. I mean, you just don't see those in mainstream movies. That's what makes it special to begin with. And Heather really sold it.

The one girl takes a saw to brain and is turned into a vegetable. Her death is off screen.

Yeah, but we saw some very nice fear and struggling before the saw to the head. Plus Bijou is wearing a sexy bustier, fishnets AND a ballgag (the perfect ensemble). It was over too quick, but I definitely liked her scene.

The other chick manages to talk her way out of it.... are you frickin' kidding me???

Yeah, at the end she talks herself out of it, and the idiot bad guy unties her and gets himself killed. That's what he deserved for being so stupid. But before that scene, Lauren German does some great emoting through a very tight cleave gag and gave an excellent performance. I could feel the fear and dramatic tension in her pleading. To me, her scenes were actually the best of the movie. Of course, I really dig Lauren so I'm a bit biased.

The story itself degenerated into complete silliness... with children playing soccer with another woman's head.

The ending was Roth's attempt at dark humor...and not really all that funny, but we're only talking about literally the last minute of the film.

That's why that movie failed... it was a bad movie, plain and simple.

Well, I strongly disagree that it was a bad movie. It should have been a great movie, and Roth should have added more nudity and especially should have given Axelle the treatment to punish her for what she did...but I'm not going to judge the movie for what it could have done. Because ultimately, what ended up onscreen is 4 attractive young women, and 3 of them are bound, gagged, threatened, tortured or worse. Historically, I think it's one of the most important films ever made for our crowd, because it attempted to make a film devoted to tying up and torturing women on film into a mainstream hit. The fact that audiences rejected it shows that there weren't enough of us out there to make it successful, but give Roth credit for having the cahones to try it.

If, in a movie, the female victim gets badly hurt, bloodied or killed, does that ruin the fantasy for you?

Yep.

John M at PKF finally released the Lexxi AOH electro movie Special Birthday. Lexxi gets punched up pretty good at the beginning before she's bound but the bruises/blood aren't too bad IMO. I think Lexxi is arguably the hottest body doing GIMP work right now and she looks and acts amazing strung up for most of this movie while she's fondled, molested, raped, and ultimately electro-shocked to death. There are also scenes where Lexxi is forced to blow the 2 captors and raped over a table, but the AOH scenes do it for me.

On the death scene, what I'd seen in other movies are usually asphyxia or bloody slit throats or stabs. Lexxi dies by having the electro sponge tied to her neck, which after a lot or writhing eventually causes her to spit out a lot of spit and hang limply. Overall, I give this movie an A- because Lexxi is friggin awesome and I'm AOH-biased but I would have liked to see her punched or slapped around some more.

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Cheers,

Marquis

I don't care for blood. I'm not necessarily squeamish about scenes that get bloody but it doesn't do anything for me as far as erotica goes. In fact, if a woman is too bloodied, it can be a turn-off.

As for a victim being killed or dying, that doesn't matter to me, one way or the other. It doesn't add to the excitement -- I'm not a "snuff" guy -- but it doesn't lessen the experience, either, provided the material leading up to the death was good.

A real shame too, as I'd probably spend a lot of money with them if they'd get the billing in order.

"I think Lexxi is arguably the hottest body doing GIMP work right now and she looks and acts amazing…"

I wholeheartedly 100% agree! She hasn't done all that much bondage stuff but when she does I'm usually pretty quick to pick it up. Plus by the stills, it looks like Lexxi has a new boyfriend as she wasn't doing any hardcore stuff for a while. Facial cum shot…ooohhweee!

BTW, have you seen the Lexxi's segment of The Good Murders? Not really AOH but kinda as she's spread-eagle, tied to a bed. Plus electrocuted and raped a couple of times (simulated in this one though). This was the first time I had seen Lexxi and was hooked immediately, as in addition to being very easy on the eyes, and having a great body, she's also very convincing in it IMO. Highly recommended (see review section)! And like jhlipton likes to point out, you can always skip the fatal ending if that's not your thing.

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The first of 2 British mini mainstream reviews.

Mini mainstream movie review of Eden Lake.

Eden Lake

Steve & Jenny (played by Kelly Reilly) take a trip to Eden Lake for the weekend. Their plans for swimming and camping out on the shoreline are interrupted by a bunch of kids and teens. After a near altercation between the couple and the group, the kids end up leaving. The night goes by uneventful, but on the second day, they discover the bag with the car keys is missing. Hiking back up to where their car was parked, they find it has, as feared, been stolen. Night has fallen by now and the couple are forced to trek through the woods on foot. They soon run into the pack of kids and an altercation breaks out while trying to get the keys back. One of the kids' dog is accidentally killed as the couple takes off in their car. Enraged by the death of the dog, the kids give chase as they knock out the lights of the car and crack the windshield, making it impossible for Steve to negotiate the terrain. He ends up crashing and is pinned in the car as Jenny takes off to get help.

Gimpage has only one very minor scene as Jenny is tied to a tree sitting next to her boyfriend. Although not much of a Gimp scene, a potential Ralphus scene, as while the couple are tied the kids attempt to burn ‘em at the stake so to speak. Steve is set on fire as Jenny panics sitting right next to him. As Steve burns, the ropes that secured Jenny burn through and she is able to escape. Though she doesn't burn, she is momentarily in peril of, so don't know if that works for Ralphus but thought I'd mention.

Entertainment wise: If I were to have to describe this movie I would say it would kinda be like The Lord of the Flies meets Timber Falls for lack of a better comparison. But it would be an insult to this movie by grouping it with the latter. This is a much, much better picture. Very well done IMO. Grade B/B-

Gimp wise: As mentioned, not too much as far as Gimp. Grade D

Doomsday

Britain is hard hit by a new virus. A virus of which there is no cure. As masses of people die, the decision is made to quarantine the infected areas and cut their losses. Half the British Empire is walled off and basically, left for dead.

Some years have passed and the unaffected half has returned to normalcy… until a few new cases of the Reaper Virus turn up in London. The decision has been made to quarantine the city…more than likely to a similar fate that had befallen the infected areas of Britain years earlier. As plans are made to this end, a discovery of survivors is made in the area that was long thought dead. And where there are survivors, there is a good chance that a cure can be found from those that seem to be immune. An extraction team lead by Maj. Eden Sinclair (played by Rhona Mitra) is set up to find these survivors and bring them back.

One major (to me anyway) Gimp scene and a couple of minor ones here. The first has Rhona suspended AOH. As the scene initiates I thought that it might be a nude scene because of distance and lighting. As the camera comes closer and with change in light we see Rhona dressed in tight black pants and a tight black tank-top. Despite not what I was hoping for here, she looked great as her hair was wet and she looked damp from sweat. As the scene progresses she gets hit numerous times in the stomach as she hangs helpless. Later she is cut down and briefly interrogated. A cart gets wheeled in which has, I'm not really sure, but was obvious that it was for purposes of torture. This turned out to be only a tease as nothing happens with it and the only thing inflicted on Rhona at that point is a bite on the ear. She of course escapes later because of her hands being tied in front of her.

She is again tied briefly twice, as the first one has her being led by horse as she is pulled along with hands in front. Then later a very brief moment when she get tied with hands behind her back.

The final Gimp moment comes when another girl, in full dress, has the back of it ripped open while AOH, and then gets burned with a hot piece of iron (incidentally, ordered by Malcolm McDowell).

Entertainment value: I thought this was a pretty good movie, although not seeming entirely original. Start off by entering a city cutoff from the rest of civilization similar to Escape From New York, add a villain reminiscent of Dee Snider's character from Strangeland, include a chase scene where 2 of the extraction team are being chased by an old dilapidated bus full of punk-looking pursuers…complete with individuals hanging out the windows, swinging chains and clubs, ala the scene from The Warriors, mix in 2 parts virus from 28 Days/Weeks Later (without the zombies), and finish with a wasteland car chase scene like in The Road Warrior, and you end up with something a whole lot less than original looking….

But despite that, I did like this movie… Most of it anyway. I liked the first half better than the second. And it does have a few cheesy parts, like where Rhona has this artificial eye that she can pull out of her head, then toss, and with the help of a remote control device, can turn it to see things from a distance. There is also a part where they leave the city and end up at a village on the outskirts that has regressed to medieval times that I didn't care for.

Despite the lack of originality and some cheesy parts, I give it a C+/B-

Gimp wise: Start off with the ever tasty Rhona Mitra in a tight black outfit, suspend her AOH, and make her sweat…makes for a hot scene! Even though no nudity, the way Rhona looks in it bumps it a notch higher than a non-nudity mainstream segment would be. Grade: a B/B+

I just thought that as a movie is didn't know what it wanted to be: Horror, camp, or gorefest. While the clothing of the women was sexy, my point is there shouldn't have been any clothing at all... for god's sake, why? You pay $100,000 to torture and kill these woman, take off their god damn clothes!! What's so fucking hard about that?!

Ahem... um, er... anyway, you see what I'm talking about... it's a glaring logic error. I mean, "Criminal Minds" has better torture scenes in it on a regular basis. Remember the one where the girl reporter is tied standing, upper spread in bra and panties to a wire bed frame and tortured with electric shocks while her lady cop friend has to watch? That's good ol' regular American TV... Eli Roth is making torture porn!

End rant. Thank you for your attention. I'm going to play darts.

Rhona Mitra is one of the most gorgeous women walking the planet today. She looks like a young Charlotte Rampling and a young Sarah Miles morphed together. I'll watch anything she's in, GIMP scenes or no GIMP scenes!

Of course, seeing her suspended AOH and punched around just makes her even more appealing. Maybe she'll get whipped in her next movie . . . in my dreams, in my dreams.

If you want to see Rhona Mitra in a similar GIMP situation, albeit with clothes on, have a look at the remake of Spartacus she did a few years ago. There were several chances to show her properly, But since the flick was made for the USA Network, she kept her clothes on, which was most unfortunate.

Wow, that Nicheclips looks really good. The JPG is hot as hell. What I can't understand is the billing option for that site. I'm not sending out a check for a hundred bucks for something I've not sampled. The stills look good, but I've been burned before. Besides... I don't use checks at all. I can't believe the site owner can't figure out how to work credit cards. I mean, for gods sake, all you need is an email address for paypal or something like that.

A real shame too, as I'd probably spend a lot of money with them if they'd get the billing in order.

Unfortunately, there has been a concerted effort by the credit card companies to regulate and censor what they consider extreme content since 2001 (guess who was the new president). It's quite a complicated story that, as an extreme producer, I have been dealing with for years. If you knew of the number of sites that have gone out of business since then, or how many times I personally have lost several months income when the supposed biller that was "ok" with content, simply lied until caught by their merchant services acct provider and told to drop me. Of course, they were levied with a fine that was conveniently passed on to me and "poof", all the money is gone.

Of course, Paypal, a lovely little company, is all about censorship. They completely banned adult content in 2004. Recently, they have allowed certain Vanilla content. Once you get caught with prohibited content, you are banned for life. Any site using Paypal now is playing the odds game, and if you use that site for extreme purchases and are caught--your account is banned for life. I know from experience.

Luckily in early 2005, Nicheclips started. They had been serving our community for 3 years before as Orgasmagoria. I have known the owner 8 years and have been using their services for 4 years. To this day, I have never had a problem. I have never had a customer email me with a problem. 99% of my sales are through nicheclips. I have personally been doing this for 15 years and it is to my benefit to only sell through a good source. It is my livelihood and my passion. It is safe and secure. The reason it is this way is because it has to be to keep the 40+ producers in business. Without them, like probably many of the sites you currently use outside of Nicheclips....they are always at risk losing their processing as the TOS of every processor bans sleepy, bondage, and everything beyond.

The important thing is, once you are a customer, other funding options will become available that I am sure you will appreciate. Just don't ask.

Thanks,

JohnM

Rick always shoots stuff that he likes and he's probably not into the death fetish. That's probably been the saving grace for him, since while ZFX videos are notoriously rough, none of the girls actually die in them. Compare that with the film that Extreme Associates made a few years back, Forced Entry, that featured rape scenes that ended in murder (clearly simulated) that got them prosecuted and jail time.

Fortunately, with NicheClips, there's lots of variety for the snuff fans out there. This new title that MAV reviewed from PKF looks like a winner.

The direct link for that is in my Homepage URL above.

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Sardu wrote:

While the clothing of the women was sexy, my point is there shouldn't have been any clothing at all... for god's sake, why? You pay $100,000 to torture and kill these woman, take off their god damn clothes!! What's so fucking hard about that?!

I get your point, but sometimes a particular outfit is more appealing to the man with a fetish. Bijou Phillips was obviously dressed like a whore for a reason. The man could have requested nude, I'm sure. Maybe this look rung his bell more than actual nudity. As for Lauren German, if you noticed, he had her dressed to look like his shrew of a wife (we see her earlier wearing the exact same pantsuit). That was clearly intentional.

Of course, if it were me, I would start off with them dressed and eventually tear or cut off each article of clothing. More humiliating, and much more fun. That might have been the plan for Bijou and Lauren, but obviously, those plans went awry.

"Criminal Minds" has better torture scenes in it on a regular basis. Remember the one where the girl reporter is tied standing, upper spread in bra and panties to a wire bed frame and tortured with electric shocks while her lady cop friend has to watch?

Whoa! I don't watch that show. Sounds like I need to. Do you know the episode title?

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LTL: Thanks for 2 more fine reviews. Eden Lake sounds like a waste of time. And about the burning scene, let me get this straight...the man and the woman are both tied to a tree and they set the man on fire? What idiot came up with that idea? That's the most backasswards concept I ever heard of. Once again, go after the man instead of the chick. This is becoming an epidemic.

Your link for the review is here: http://ralphus.net/reviews/mainstream/edenlake.htm

On the other hand, Doomsday with Rhona Mitra won a 2008 Ralphus Award for Best Mainstream Scene of the Year. Like a lot of people here, I'm a big fan of Rhona and she seems to gravitate towards movies that place her in peril, such as her rape scene in Hollow Man and rough scenes in Spartacus, Highwaymen and apparently in the new "Underworld" movie. I like that quality in a woman, and of course, she's also sexy as hell.

The direct link for this one is http://ralphus.net/reviews/mainstream/doomsday.htm

The section included here has the "capture" scene as well as the bondage and torture scene. As a little trivia, the female FBI agent is played by none other than the lovely Andrea Roth whose hanging torture GIMP scene in the movie "Executive Power" was also quite delectable.

Not only does this show consistently provide the best GIMP scenes on TV, the stories are really awesome! The opening usually has a damsel scene of pretty good quality and she dies badly. The final scenes usually have more GIMP scenes, but the damsel is rescued by the team... usually after really bad thing have happened to her.

In the Criminal Minds episode, "A Perfect Storm", a pair of serial killers kidnap, rape and torture college girls to death... but get this, they send a DVD of it to the parents!! This episode starts with mom and dad getting a DVD from their daughter whom they believe is on Spring Break on to see her being tortured and raped. The dad, who has a heart condition, promptly has a heart attack and dies! Snippets of the torture videos are shown through out the episode, as well as some great bondage of the damsel that gets rescued.

In the episode "Psycho Drama", the unsub likes to rob banks, make the people strip and do bad things with each other...

I could go on, but you get the idea. I leave you to the pleasure of discovery Ralphus. You've got a lot of catching up to do.

It's worse than that, as there was also a man BATS scene in Doomsday if you remember.

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Well it looks like jhlipton was right. Nicheclips origin was Orgasmagoria (confirmed by John M).

That's even more bizarre, that being the case, that they wouldn't sell their own product any more. Huh?

Wow, who'd have thunk…….
the part about jhlipton being right that is ;-)

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Sardu wrote: ~ I'm not sending out a check for a hundred bucks for something I've not sampled. (Nicheclips)

Where does the $100.00 figure come from? Is that what it would take to initially open an account with them now? I have an account so I wouldn't know (as I can fund via CC). If that is the case, you can always send a M.O. direct to John @ PKF for just the clip you are interested in (if he's still doing that).

Overall, I would recommend this movie. It's the best Red Feline film I have seen so far. Adding some dialogue made a tremendous difference and, as others have noted, Jane looks terrific in this movie.

I thought the rape scene was pretty good and I hope we see more rapes in upcoming features. The part where Jane's back was whipped was excellent and was the highlight of the film. The part where Jane's head was being drowned in the bucket was also quite good.

A couple of areas where I think there is room for improvement. As our reviewers have noted, the rope work was sloppy and that was a bit of a distraction. Particularly in an early scene when Jane was left alone, tied to a chair -- I think she probably could have escaped if she had tried. Definitely, the rope binding needs to be tighter.

One other thought that I put forward for discussion. The movie seemed to be spend a lot of time showing viewers the transitions from one scene to another. For example, after the rape, Jane is taken off the table, moved over to an area near a wall, bound arms over head, before she is whipped (I didn't include all the details). I'm not sure why we need to see all of this. With the use of some cutaway shots, I think the movie could have jumped more quickly from one scene to the next, and that might have given the film more intensity. I believe a tighter 60-minute film that focuses on the strengths -- the whippings, etc. -- would have worked better than the 90-minute film that included these slower transition scenes.

Those are my thoughts. While Red Feline still has room to grow, I would nonetheless encourage GIMPers to see The Agent. It's a good movie.

On nicheclips funding, the others are right. You fund the account once via e-checking or money order and then you can fund via credit card. It's a stretch but movies like John M's are hard to find elsewhere.

Tech questions for the group: suggestions on programs to rip AVI/MPG clips from a DVD or a WMV file? Thanks!

You said it yourself -- female torture doesn't sell (for whatever reason) as well as male torture does. So no mainstream filmmaker is going to do a lot of female torture in their movies. We'll have to settle for what we get, and for all the fetish producers (hi, Jane!) who give us what we are looking for.

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Bijou is wearing a sexy bustier, fishnets AND a ballgag (the perfect ensemble)

Only if the bustier is loosened enough to show nipples. That one wasn't, so FAIL.

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MAV: John M at PKF finally released the Lexxi AOH electro movie Special Birthday.

That looks GREAT. I'll have to see if the Snail Mail 2-fer is still in effect -- this would make a great double-feature with Sammy Jo's Pawn Shop.

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Sardu: I'm not sending out a check for a hundred bucks for something I've not sampled.

John has a couple of samplers out. The most recent one is on his forum -- it's pretty hot.

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The opening usually has a damsel scene of pretty good quality and she dies badly....In the Criminal Minds episode, "A Perfect Storm", a pair of serial killers kidnap, rape and torture college girls to death

The murder of the real estate agent is really hot, especially for TV. I'm going to have to check my sources for clips of "Perfect Storm".

Look, as far as mainstream GIMPage goes, ya gotta "sneak" it in. If "Criminal Minds" can show a chick in bra and panties wired to a steel bed frame and electro tortured on regular TV, the movies can take an extra step and show some nudity and a teeny bit more torture... even some forced sex to boot. Just wrap it up in a neat storyline and make sure the killer gets his just reward, and you're good.

I think that really loose bonds can ruin a scene for me quicker that blood and gore. The strange thing is that there really is no excuse for sloppy rope work. It doesn't have to be elaborate like the Japanese stuff. It simply has to be convincing.

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My take on "Hostel 2" is that the GIMP scenes were good, and the movie itself wasn't a total disaster. The problem from a non-GIMP perspective was that it failed to live up to the intensity and horror of the original. Even the escape sequence of the original was well-thought out and took a bit of creativity, unlike Lauren German simply talking and buying her way out. We have to remember that the sequel was aimed at the horror/ torture porn crowd. The flaws in the movie from a horror perspective were why it flopped at the box office. Besides, I think the majority of GIMPers would rather watch the sequel in the privacy of their own homes.

In other words, speaking from the point of view of the victim, the above things might be preferable to havng to endure continued torture. Isn't "You'll wish for death" a great line for a sadistic torturer? So if you want the captive to suffer, you may want to avoid the heavy stuff. Not that I'm wanting to put that to the test.

On the other hand, creative death traps, like the ones MasterDetective talked about, do intrigue me. Like the block of ice scene from Ilsa. The victim knows she will meet her demise, and she's helpless to stop it; but she has lots of time to ponder her fate. Cruel.

Also, I have to agree with the recent comments about sloppy ropework. If you're gonna capture me and tie me up, make it tight! That way, if I do escape, I'll have something to be proud of. Of course, knowing the kind of bondage you guys like to see girls in, getting loose is not an option.

Gabriela

I mean, have her escape if you have to, she's obviously the "final girl" so her surviving is pretty much expected, but to be able to buy her way out? Of the evil Hostel? Why not just buy her way out of Abu Ghraib or Hell? Why not just pay the Funny Games guys to leave? (might want to have American AND German currencies around the house just in case...)

I don't know wtf they were thinking.

As to death and torture, the movie "Feardotcom" did a pretty decent job with this. The killer wouldn't kill his victim until she begged him to... after lots of really bad torture. The sad part here was most of what happened to the girl was implied... and what was shown on screen it was sometimes hard to tell exactly was being done. Then when the girl was rescued, she's completely forgotten about... no followup... nothing. In my writer's mind I would have set up the sequel by having her be a doctor of some kind whose experience drives her crazy or she's possessed by some spirit and she takes over where the previous killer left off. Once again, that's just me.

In real life I'm a writer of sorts. Nothing published seriously except some magazine stories, but I'm working on it. After some of the discussion on the board, and a bunch of "Criminal Minds" episodes, an interesting story idea has been forming in my mind and I thought I'd bounce it off here to see what you all think. What if the crazy serial killer guy in the story carefully selected women who "really deserved it" so to speak, as victims. I'm talking about evil people like Karla Homolka, or Casey Anthony. The story would have three main focuses: 1) The FBI's attempt to catch the killer, 2) the public's conflicted reaction to the killings, and 3) the dynamic between the killer and one of his victims.

The killer's wife and children were brutally murdered by a killing couple right in front of him. The woman killer cut a deal for a sentence reduction claiming abuse and fear for her life, etc. as an excuse for her crimes and testified against her boyfriend. Of course the killer was there, witnessed her glee as he was forced to watch as she tortured his wife and forced her to have lesbian sex with her. He knows its all BS, and how the system lets him down. Since he's a smart guy, and knows that if he went after this woman he's be suspect #1, he decides to start using proxies.

With this setup, the dynamic between the killer and victim could be interesting because the "victims" are psycho killers themselves.

I'd really like to hear some of your insights on this.

Hey, here's something no one has read yet...a review of Red Feline's Agent X. Yeah, I know I'm late to the party and this film has been reviewed here a few times already, but I promised Jane so here's my take.

Kind of a mixed bag for me. There's a lot to like, and other stuff that needs to be improved next time. To begin with, the initial takedown of Jane is ridiculously brief...takes about 5 seconds, literally. She's walking through a dark hallway, JJ grabs her by the neck and down she goes. If it were really that easy to knock out girls, I'd be doing it all the time (well, more than I do now, anyway).

Anyway, an unconscious Jane (BTW, get used to that phrase "unconscious Jane" because it will be prevalent in this review) gets her hands cuffed behind her and dragged into another room, where she is seated in a straight-backed wooden chair and tied there by JJ. As was pointed out by everyone else who's reviewed this movie, the bondage is rather weak. He takes a single strand of rope and winds it once around her waist and the chair, and continues down by securing her ankles with the same rope. As an aficionado of chair ties, the lack of effective bondage here is disappointing.

Jane is awoken with a few soft taps to her face (you'll read that phrase a bit more times, too) and uses a scissors to cut away Jane's top, exposing her breasts. Thankfully, at this point he does add a bit more rope and winds that a few times around her waist and her chest, making the bondage merely adequate, although not nearly as tight as it should have been.

JJ interrogates her for information with several slaps to the face. Unfortunately, Jane's character (she's an undercover agent) is trained to withstand abuse, so she's feisty and stubbornly refuses to act scared or give in here, which makes the scene less effective dramatically.

After leaving her to struggle in her ropes for a few minutes, JJ returns to see if she's changed her mind. Nope, she hasn't, so instead of slapping her, he punches her twice with his fist, knocking her out cold.

Unconscious Jane is then untied from the chair and laid on her back on top of a wooden table, her hands still cuffed behind her. Her knees are bent over the edge of the table and her ankles are secured to the table legs. Again using the same long strand of rope, he wraps it around the other end of the table and then loops it a few times around Jane's neck and before tying it off. All it takes are a few soft taps to her face to awaken her. Jane looks over her situation but she's still stoic, unafraid. JJ uses a scissors to slice off her panties and stuffs them in her mouth to gag her, taking the same rope that's looped around her neck and putting it across her mouth to hold the gag in place, not nearly as effective as using a new rope and wrapping that around her head.

JJ then takes bare electrical wire and tapes the ends to her temples (nice touch) and also to her nipples and her pussy. And how does Jane react? She tells JJ "fuck you" through her gag, more unwanted feistiness when she should be panicky and crying. And so...it's Shocky Time! What follows is a better than average electrical torture scene. Although no screaming here, it's quite effective, with Jane's body stiffening with every jolt.

When he's done with her, JJ removes the wires and gag and takes full advantage of her by raping Jane's pussy. According to Jane, the rape was supposed to be simulated but he couldn't help himself and did it to her for real. Well, can you blame him? She looks incredibly hot in that position. And as he thrusts himself into her, the rope around Jane's neck tightens up, so she's being choked while she's being raped. This time, Jane reacts a bit more noisily until she finally passes out.

Then it's more Unconscious Jane as she is untied, stripped completely and re-tied in a standing position with her arms over her head. For once, her wake up call is more than just a few soft taps to the face. JJ gets her attention by giving her several blows with his whip, and continues whipping her for several minutes until there are bloody slash marks up and down the back of her body. Jane ties to kick back at her attacker but it's all in vain. He keeps whipping her until well past the time that she's...that's right, unconscious.

This enables JJ to bind Unconscious Jane upside down to a wooden ladder, with her knees bent over the upper rung and her hands tied behind her, sort of a loose hogtie. It's a pretty inventive position, one I haven't seen before. JJ wakes her up by softly tapping her face (he must have a real magic touch). And the torture this time is also pretty unique. He takes a bucket filled with water and raises it up to Jane's head so that she experiences a drowning torture while tied in this helpless position. After the bucket is removed, Jane pleads, coughs and begs him to stop while gasping for air. She is clearly not acting here and that's why the scene is so effective. He uses the bucket on her several times, and on the last one she is kept under water for quite a while, until it is mercifully removed and she hangs silently, still breathing but unconscious.

Quick, JJ, softly tap her face so she can move again!

Several excruciatingly slow minutes later, JJ has finally tied Jane into a new position (pretty convenient that she's unconscious every time so that he can bind her with no distractions, isn't it?). This one is worth waiting for. Jane is now standing on her tiptoes, leaning against a post with her arms tied far apart to a bar over her head, leaving her stretched out and vulnerable. Then he worsens her predicament by tying her ankles apart with a spreader bar. There are several instances where Jane is hanging suspended as JJ cuts into her with his whip, and this scene is a lot more fun since we get to see Jane's pretty face as she reacts in anguish to every blow.

Once she's unconscious again, Jane hangs limply in her bonds, her front side now stained with lots and lots of bloody marks, which seems only fair since her backside got marked up earlier. JJ drags her limp body over to the wall for one more torture, and this one will be the worst of all for her. He chains her with her arms tied to the wall over her head and...wait for it...softly taps her face to wake her up. Works every time.

JJ gets right in front of Jane and holds up 4 sinister-looking spikes and a hammering tool to her face. "Guess what?" JJ tells her. "I don't need a confession any more. This is not to make you talk. This is just for me".

Jane starts crying, but he is undeterred. He takes her left leg and proceeds to hammer one of the spikes through her ankle and into a wooden peg that is bolted next to the wall. Jane wails in agony as he continues on, impaling the other ankle to the other side. He doesn't stop until both of Jane's wrists are then spread apart and hammered into the wall, impaling her to the wall so that her body now resembles the letter X.

JJ later tortures both her breasts with by stabbing them with another spike, as if she wasn't already in enough pain. He pulls up a chair, takes a swig of beer and watches Jane slowly suffer. It takes a long time, but she eventually slumps her head and expires, now just a pretty victim of crucifixion. And no amount of soft tapping to her face is going to bring her back this time.

My reaction to this film is easy to gauge. When Jane is awake, there's lots of good suffering. But when she's knocked out...and she's unconscious probably a good third of the movie...it's just boring. Way too much Unconscious Jane. I've never been a fan of the sleepy girl fetish. You might as well be tying up a mannequin if she's not going to react.

I also didn't like the initial feistiness of Jane's character early on (He's getting ready to shock you and you tell him "fuck you"? Wrong move). But it didn't take long for Jane to get into full victim mode, and once she got going, I liked the later scenes the best, when she was actually screaming and showing real emotion. And surprisingly, even though I don't like gore, the final scene where she's nailed to the wall turned me on the most. I'd never seen Jane von Detlefson perform before, and I was impressed. She's both beautiful and also plays a very convincing victim. I had heard nothing but negative things about JJ's acting, but he's just fine here, a little too soft-spoken and quiet, but certainly adequate as the villain.

This is easily the best thing I've ever seen from Red Feline. Unless you're into unconscious women, you'll need to keep the fast-forward button ready, but there's lots of good stuff here to recommend.

My grade: B

As far as your views on Jane's defiance goes, it doesn't sound like that would be out of character from a secret agent she's portraying though. As you wrote: JJ then takes bare electrical wire and tapes the ends to her temples (nice touch) and also to her nipples and her pussy. And how does Jane react? She tells JJ "fuck you" through her gag, more unwanted feistiness when she should be panicky and crying.

I haven't seen the film yet (I plan to) so am just going by your descriptions, but to me it sounds consistent with how I imagine someone who's lost their innocence (by all the things a secret agent would see and experience) would react. After all, up until that point, all she's gone through have been a couple of punches, and being rendered unconscious a few times. In other words, no real experience of pain yet. Maybe tears and fear at some latter point after she's been broken down a bit, but at this point it sounds logical.

Once innocence has been lost there's no going back, having become less sensitive. Look at yourself as an example, as a child when the rope and duct tape were placed out of your reach, you'd break down and cry. Now that you're an adult and less sensitive, you just deal with it……………when someone puts the rope and duct tape out of your reach ;-)

As unlikely as it may sound, I once again find myself pretty much in agreement with your review (I'm kinda glad I posted my comments yesterday, so people don't think I've suddenly taken to sucking up to the moderator).

I characterized it a bit differently, but the parts I would have cut in order to tighten up the movie also involved the scenes with "Unconscious Jane," which I thought dragged a bit.

I do have to say that at the Canadian Perverts' Acting School, we would still require J.J. to do a bit more homework. I would agree that his acting here was better than what I have seen in other films but I still think he needs to add a bit more intensity to his performances. A quick observation -- I don't think an interrogator should stand in front of his victim with one hand in his pant pocket. That looks a little too nonchalant for my tastes.

Overall, though, I would have given Agent X the same grade: a B.

He chains her with her arms tied to the wall over her head and...wait for it...softly taps her face to wake her up. Works every time.

Perhaps the use of smelling salts, which could be easily faked, would be more convincing than soft taps to awaken the victim.

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Sardu: I really like your idea, although the plot is quite similar to the TV show "Dexter," in which Michael C. Hall plays a forensics guy for the Miami police who also happens to be a serial killer. His victims are also serial killers who he hunts down and tortures to death.

Still, I estimate that 99 percent of Dexter's victims are male. So the idea that evil women would be the victims provides much room for creativity. What would happen if the male "hero" starts to have feelings for some his female victims, who may have more experience than him in manipulation. How does he know they are guilty? Dexter is in law enforcement so he knows how investigations work and has access to areas where he can tamper with evidence if the clues even remotely point his way. How will your hero stay ahead of the FBI?

Good luck with the story. This sounds like a fun project that you have in mind.

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Gabriela Atar wrote: Isn't "You'll wish for death" a great line for a sadistic torturer?

I love hearing that line. I also like: "We're just getting started" (as the victim whimpers and cries.)

Maybe I'm just old fashioned, maybe I'm a male chauvinist, but in my mind, men are men and they're the ones who are in charge. The woman's role is to be the victim. That's what they do best, and the "damsel in distress" concept is tried and true and been around longer than I've been born. If I've got a woman tied up, she'd be damned stupid to tell me "fuck you" because that would just mean she would make whatever punishment I have planned for her all the more worse. In other words, I want my victims scared, compliant and crying.

Of course, in the arc of the story, Jane started off tough but by the end, she was broken and indeed, scared and crying when JJ announced what he was going to do to her. That's probably why I liked that scene the best. Maybe if Jane weren't playing an agent and instead had another (less manly) profession, we might have seen that frightened behavior all the way through. It was nothing she did wrong; it was just the character she was playing.

I don't think it has anything to do with my views on the roles of men and women. Rather, I enjoy seeing a strong and feisty woman who puts up resistance and then has her spirit broken. If anything, I might have preferred it if Jane's character in Agent X had been a bit more defiant in the early part of the movie.

Ralphus - and another insightful review that tells me I must see "Agent X" - and I just noticed Jane's last name is misspelled on the header - nooooooo!

An open letter to the producers of "The Torturer"

Dear Sirs

I recently had the opportunity to view your production of "The Torturer". If I had to describe my reaction in one word that word would be "What a stinking pile of crap this is".

In an 86 minute long film you managed to pack one, yes count them, one five minute sequence that could be considered Gimp worthy torment with a nice looking chick. No nudity, no rape displayed on screen. I am discounting the sequence at the end where you have a Nichelle Nichols who appears to be at least 107 years old get bagged while chair tied.

Shrewdly, you managed to take a Gimp worthy premise and turn it into a political dissertation on the evils of the Bush administration interrogation policies. That's fine with me as I unload on every administration as being evil, immoral and corrupt. So kudos to your ad agency for managing to sell it as a torture flick rather than the abysmal pile of shit it is.

So let me see if I have this scenario straight. This military interrogator returns from Iraq suffering from Acute Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. As he relates his activities to his government psychiatrist we see that during his stint he contracts a sort of Stockholm Syndrome in reverse with him falling in love with his captive. After the one Gimp worthy scene which is a waterboarding episode he somehow manages to convince his superiors that she is dead. He then manages to somehow smuggle her living form disguised as a corpse out of Iraq and back to the U.S. Do I have this correct so far because this is the most confusing sequence of events I have ever viewed save for a few Ed Wood movies.

For his grand finale he then grabs passports, papers and cash and gives it to his victim so she can go back to Iraq and continue her good work with Amnesty International and plants a dirty nuclear device which blows up in a Washington D.C. parking garage in an attempt to assassinate the president. You'll have to forgive me if I get parts of this wrong since the dialogue was apparently written by the members of Mrs. Howe's 4th grade English class. There was no problem with the continuity unless you consider the complete lack of any.

My advice to you folks before you begin your next effort is just this - DIE. Die you gravy sucking pigs. Choke to death on your own vomit on the floor of a truck-stop bathroom. Whatever it takes, however you want it. If you have a political agenda then sell the movie on that basis and don't try to disguise it as something else.

Have a nice day.

Sloth

Perhaps fellow Gimpers can tell from my tone that I was not terribly fond of this movie - hopefully I'm the only one who spent any money on this - proceed to view at your peril.

Stay Well All

The set-up isn't the same, and I think he mostly goes after men (of course [bitter face]), but that sentence describes Dexter, from what I've read.

"Does it hurt? Yes, a bit. How about now? Yes, (groan) a little more. GOOD. NOW we can get started."

If she dies, that's a buzzkill to me.

If she's a hottie, I'm imagining I'm in the guy's place. I'm the guy doing it to her. If she's hurt, she will recover and remember me. As the guy, I like to think think I'm unforgettable. I would like to think of her living her life remembering her time with her tormentor, and fearing his return. Maybe he will come back and make her do things better this time, or maybe be more grateful for his attentions.

If she's dead, the scenario ends there. Where's the fun in that?

John (not for sure that's his real name yet), in my story varies significantly in that circumstances warp his Psyche to turn him into a killer... the murders of his wife and child in front of him, and his outrage at the injustice that one of the killers "gets off" with an easy sentence because she turned against her partner. The helplessness of the situation, the rage and the loss all combine to force him to find a way to regain control. His solution is to find women who have committed similar acts and vent his frustrations on them.

Brutus: Excellent point, and that's why I posted here for exactly that kind of thinking. I've decided that John is a computer analyst who works for a large computer firm contracted by the government to create hacking software to track organized crime. John uses his knowledge to create his own program to hack local police files that aren't as heavily encrypted as federal agencies like the FBI or CIA. Since the cases all start with local law enforcement, he can track the movements of the FBI through a secondary source and determine where they may be in an investigation, and what resources may be deployed to find him. This also helps him stay under the radar through computer detection methods that the FBI might employ. This is also how he is able to track down his victims who may change their identities (as in one case where the woman is under witness protection due to her testimony against her ex boyfriend who escapes from prison to go after her. The initial police investigation is completely thrown because the focus so heavily on the boyfriend when its actually a stranger abduction).

I've started doing the character profiles, some research on the net about law enforcement techniques and a detail chapter by chapter outline. It will be some time before I actually start "writing" the story so please keep feeding me these types of ideas. Thanks Brutus and Chase.

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A Canadian ~ Back to back posts and correctly calling it Agent X. Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?

Couple that with the other sign….that of male tortures….now I'm really scared!

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Concerning the poll question:

A common thread to the poll question it seems, are replies that state something like, "If she's killed then that's the end…."

If it's not your thing, then it's not your thing. Not trying to change anyone's mind….But as far as "ending the movie", it's going to have to end sometime anyway. Just because she's kept alive doesn't necessarily mean that suddenly you're gonna end up with 10, 20, or 30 minutes of additional footage.

Thanks for the compliments everyone! It makes me feel special to be talked about here.

Sloth - So, your wife doesn't exactly like your new screensaver? Tough cookies. Please don't tell her I said that. The computer screen is sometimes the only thing man has left to decorate. Compliment her on whatever she has redecorated recently and everything will be fine.

It's great to have so much feedback here, there are some things we can improve, other things are personal taste or style. I hope Agent X has something for everyone. I like playing different sorts of characters, some more defiant and others just plain scared damsels. In Agent X I wanted to follow a character arc in which I try to act tough and resistant at the beginning, but am broken down with each torture until I'm crying and pleading at the end. In the end all of my defiance was for nothing and I'm just a helpless female. It was frightening, at the end I felt completely desperate (I really get into the character).

We're very close to releasing another movie. It's a record year for us. I'll announce it when it goes public.

Also, we're offering free shipping in our DVD store until the end of the year! There's no need to punch in a code, just good, wholesome, free shipping.

Sure, there is no nudity or rape in the movie, however the bondage and tortures that are shown are pretty brutal. The actress, "Mahsa Masoudi" is a lovely Arab woman... and she suffers and pleads beautifully. In fact, when I was watching this movie I thought to myself, "This is Agent X without the nudity or rape."

The first torture is a simple stress position where she is secured to a metal folding chair via wire ties. Hands behind, ankles to the back legs of the chair. This actually looks painful for the actress herself. I don't see how it couldn't have been. She is actually shown being secured.

Initially, she has a blanket over her, but then he takes it away and splashes water on her and opens a window as the temperature outside is very cold. There is a space heater there, but it isn't turned on. During the night as she gets colder, she struggles and overtures the chair and crawls on her belly... still secured to the chair to try and turn the heater on with her mouth. After A LOT of intense struggling she makes it to the heater and the torturer comes in an prevents her from doing so.

There is another scene, almost identical to the inverted drowning scene from "Agent X". Here, she's secured to a cot like device via cable ties. The torturer actually reaches up her shirt and feels up her breasts! The cot is hinged in the middle, and he inverts her... head down. He takes large plastic bags and covers her head with it. He then takes a hose and starts filling the bag with water!

He leaves her underwater for some time before stopping... only to fill the bag again. He does this many times before filling it one more time. He tells her this time he's not stopping and walks out of the room!

The dialogue here is really intense and the acting top notch. The tortures are very realistically portrayed, and the actress struggles and PLEADS convincingly. IMHO this makes up for the lack of nudity and forced sex. The ending is also very satisfying.

It's funny that two experts on torture cinema can have such distinct views of the same movie, but I guess that's what can happen in the GIMP world. There are a wide variety of individual tastes inside our large tent.

I'm still struggling with the idea of a Nichelle Nichols scene in the movie. I mean, I like Star Trek as much as the next guy, but I saw Nichelle a couple of years ago on The Roast of William Shatner and she's starting to look more like Della Reese. I'm pretty certain I don't want to see her scene in the movie.

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LTL: After Sunday morning's screw-up, I spent all afternoon practising: "Agent X, Agent X, Agent X...". I think my neighbors believe I'm having some kind of nutty spy fantasy like Chuck Barris.

Sloth: So...what did you really think of The Torturer? Pretty good? Would you recommend it? Is it worth spending 17 bucks on? Because, you know, I wasn't really sure if you liked it or not when you suggested that the filmmakers should choke to death on their own vomit on the floor of a truck-stop bathroom. Just think, if that happened, this film could be their legacy, their final cinematic mark, the one they'll be remembered for.

I added your open letter to the Reviews section. Tell me if you need the grade changed.

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Sardu wrote:

In fact, when I was watching this movie I thought to myself, "This is Agent X without the nudity or rape."

Hmmm...I think I'd rather just watch Agent X with the nudity and the rape. Why settle for less?

Actually, the scenes you described sound pretty good. Fortunately, I won't have to cough up 17 bucks to find out, since it's already in my Netflix queue. It's likely one that I'll just fast-forward through it to get to the GIMP scene, though. Sometimes a 90-minute movie can be redeemed by one good 5-minute scene.

The direct link to your review is http://ralphus.net/reviews/mainstream/torturer2008a.htm

I personally like this kind of thing. There's much more satisfaction in seeing a strong, proud defiant woman reduced to begging and pleading -- all in vain, of course.

Well, as A Canadian pointed out it's not everyday we Gimpers disagree on a movie is it - yeah, right - so allow me to clarify on "The Torturer".

I saw the same early snippets in the flick as Sardu - dim lighting so it's difficult to discern, you know, the standard formula for mainstream indie suff - I saw nothiing that I can't view on a prime time television show - any CSI, "Criminal Minds". "24" all do it practically any night of the week - for me it was so vanilla in nature that I would need to put two scoops of it between a banana, top it with hot fudge, whip cream, walnuts and maraschino cherries to make it palatable - I do agree the waterboard scene was pretty fair and redeemed it just enough to warrant a "D".

I am fully aware and readily admit to a built in "frustration factor" in my grade - another one of those "a look into the mind of" and "figuring out the motivation behind" flicks that seem to glut the market - the one thing I am truly curious about is what Sardu found "satisfying" about the ending - was it that he let her go? - was it that he had fallen in love with his captive? - or was it that he turned into a domestic terrorist wanting to whack Americans with a nuke? - now, if one finds that ending satisfying because of a certain political agenda then that's one conversation but I fail to find anything Gimp-worthy in it - why not just have him and her ride off into the sunset chanting "Allah Akbar" as they disappear into the desert sunset.

There is nothing wrong with making a movie with such a blatant message - but if you're going to do it then roll the dice with your product and sell it as that and not try to veil it as a torture/torment/rape film - as Ralphus stated why view "Agent X" without when one can view "Agent X" with Gimp-worthy material intact.

Anyway, that's my rant for the day and my computer is making strange sounds - uh-oh.

Stay Well All

However Sloth's mention of Nichelle Nichols in any kind of bondage is frightening enough to keep me away.

Summer & Eliza Dushku.

For me, this one crosses the line. Too soon, too real. Give the young woman and her family some peace as they help throw the book and the scumbags responsible for her abduction and imprisonment. I have access to plenty of GIMP without that.

I saw today that a Hollywood director will begin shooting next week of a movie he will title "Abducted Girl, An American Sex Slave," based on the horrific experience of Jaycee Dugar. I recall our discussions some time ago of whether there is a line that can be crossed when it comes to GIMP movies which are based on real life events and with real victims.

For me, this one crosses the line. Too soon, too real. Give the young woman and her family some peace as they help throw the book and the scumbags responsible for her abduction and imprisonment. I have access to plenty of GIMP without that.

Well, if at some point we need someone to provide an impartial review of the film, I might be the man for the job. I have to confess, I'm not familiar with this case.

Sadly, Jaycee herself has already condemned this project through a family spokes person. I certainly hope this film does NOT get made... at least not by this loser.

Yes, and yes.

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LTL: Ah...Summer Glau, with Eliza Dushku strapped to a table. Now I feel much better.

YikYakker - on Jane's skin condition - yes...and yes - well stated.

LTL - man, I usually watch these things while slamming a double martini - once Nichols was chair tied I switched to boilermakers - in this case a boilermaker is defined as several Tums follwed by a Pepto-Bismol chaser.

An open letter to alleged film director and Hollywood wannabe Shane Ryan.

Dear Sir

Through the good work of fellow Gimpers it has come to my attention that you intend to cash in on the abduction, imprisonment, rape and general abuse of 11 year old Jaycee Dugard.

I generally wait until a film has actually been made and I actually view it before making comment. In your case I will make an exception. The grade is "F-" and here is my proposed punishment for you for even contemplating her exploitation.

Once the perpetrator has been sentenced and teamed up in the same cell with Roman Polanski you will then be confined with them as their "soul mate". If there is any justice they will have you wearing a flower behind your ear within a day or two. Perhaps, as Phillip Garrido slams his schlong up your poop chute, you can engage Polanski in some intellectual tete-a-tete concerning "creative genius" and "artistic freedom".

As the Dugard family has suffered through an 18 year ordeal it is the consensus of Gimpers that they are entitled to financial compensation at your expense. Therefore, each time you feel the lubricant being applied, filming will begin. Each episode will be packaged as a cable reality show and broadcast worldwide with all proceeds going to the Dugards.

Good luck with your project.

Sloth

Stay Well All

Sloth, your open letter to what's his face gave me a good laugh. I couldn't have expressed the community's opinion on this project of his any better.

All these opportunistic filmmakers just piss me off!

As far as your Boilermaker, I know your version of wouldn't do me much good. I would need alcohol….lots of it! But even with alcohol I don't think there's any on earth strong enough for me to want to see the Nichelle bondage segment. The thought is terrifying!

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Well somebody had to eventually, and since I had the opportunity to view it on the cheap, here's a….

Mainstream review of Live Animals

Live Animals

So what kind of movie is Live Animals? Well let me describe the first real drama in the film. While partying by the lake, 2 couples and the sister of one of the guys have pictures taken of them via telephoto lens by stalkers. After returning to their cabin, one of the couples starts to make out, as the other couple retires upstairs. As the couple downstairs finishes making love, the guy goes outside for a smoke as the girl dresses herself, then goes upstairs to go to sleep…in her sweater and jeans. Yes, she dresses herself to go to sleep.

In the meantime an intruder has entered the house and tranquilized the couple upstairs by shooting them with darts from a pistol. He now returns downstairs and grabs the sister from behind. Just as this is happening, the guy who went outside for the smoke, and who has been locked out, sees what's happening through a window in the door. He pounds on the door and tries to get in but is unable. He moves to a side window as he sees what's happening, trying to get in but the window is locked. In a panic he makes his way around the house looking for a way in. Hey NUMBNUT…ever think about kicking the door down or breaking the glass?

Anyway, his girlfriend has been roused by now and has made her way downstairs to see what the commotion is all about. She sees the intruder, then turns and runs back upstairs, while our hero finally finds an OPEN window and climbs in. The girl meanwhile has managed to stealthfully elude the intruder and has returned downstairs where she runs into her boyfriend. BUT instead of getting the hell out of there, our hero consoles his hysterical girlfriend…for the longest time. Plus they are not exactly being quet about it either. Calmed down now, do they make a run for it? No, like idiots they hide. He climbs in a freezer as she hides in another location. Now as they are hiding, keep in mind that the intruder hadn't made it downstairs yet, when they decided to hide instead of making a run for it. Plus the guy is about 350lbs. so there would be no way that he could have caught either one of them, given a head start.

Jump ahead now as they have all been captured. They are addressed by a slaver who gives 'em an intro speech that went something like "Breaking people is like breaking horses, except with horses you break each one. With people you break one as an example for the rest to follow." And take a guess…the example is a guy. He ends up having his tongue cut out. Not that I would have preferred to have a girl's tongue cut out, but all the tortures are always on guys anymore.

Later on one of them is taken to the barn, the barn, meaning where the tortures take place. And take a guess, yep, you're right…a guy too.

Anyway, the Gimp scenes are of chained victims. They have their hands chained in front of them, then are chained to the stalls they are in. There are a couple of fair sequences where a couple of the girls are hosed down while naked and chained. And another so-so moment when one of the girls is purchased and prepared for transport as they bit-gag her, place her on a pallet, then crate her up for shipment.

I didn't really like this movie very much at all. Way too much stupidity! In addition to the above examples, there is also a part later in the movie when a couple and their teenage daughter stop and ask for directions. The daughter wanders off then comes back “Dad, there's people in stalls back here” The 350 lb. stablehand then pulls a knife and stabs the dad. He then grabs the wife by the hair, but instead of thinking to capture her for the slave trade, no….he slices her throat. She was fairly decent looking too…a young mom.

Then there's the daughter, who takes off running back into the barn. You'd think a 14 year old teenage girl might bring some decent cash to slave traders. And even though this IS his trade, does he think about that? No, he shoots her. The way things ended up, there was very little reason to introduce these characters into the story. In fact the only reason they were, was for a plot point for the escape of one of the guys. During a confrontation, he gets asked “what did you say to them?” (meaning the family) then gets pulled out of his stall and later escapes. The family is dead…does it really matter what was said at that point? Stupid!

I will say that there were a couple of interesting devices/tortures though. I thought the head harness placed on the guy who had his tongue cut out was kinda interesting. It had a couple of straps that ratcheted tight, holding his mouth open. And there was also a “V” shaped harness that was placed under the sides of the jaw of another, and used to basically suspend the victim, hanging them but not choking them. But as said, both were wasted on the guys. The second one especially would have been nice on a female victim as this would have provided for an opportunity for a non fatal hanging. Or better yet, a naked hanging.

Entertainment value: D-

Gimp value: I'd say the Poster for this movie is a BIG teaser. Chains as restraints don't do that much for me, so someone else's view might be higher, but I give it barely a C-

Hello World!

Finally the new film Boundheat.com was released and I can assure you that is one of the best left the Czech Republic.

You allow me to tell you what's good about this new film:

1) girls, beautiful slave girls almost always nude.
2) beautiful girls in lesbian sex scenes that I think will appeal to those who love the soft-porn without going to the movies stunts gynecological hard-core
3) lesbian femdom, bondage, whipping and branding
4) a lot of scenes with Ponygirls
5) and above all a great director and producer as Lloyd A. Simandl, a founder of genre WIP movies

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0799302/

Today's mainstream slave traders could learn a thing or two from Ralphus and Sardu.

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Scot~I hear that Eliza was being tortured with continuous Shiny Happy People by R.E.M.

Eliza before, as her normal vivacious self.
Then the Shiny Happy People torture.
Eliza after…reduced to a cowering, paranoid, basket case.

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A Canadian~ The premise to Live Animals wasn't bad, it was the execution.

It sounds like Sardu would have had the same assessment if he were to have written the review…as he wrote ”… the shear stupidity of the storyline was hard to overcome.”

It did sound as though he liked the wash down scene some (probably a little more than I did), so if that sounds of interest, it may be worth a rental. Just don't expect too much as far as intelligent story goes.

I also know they contacted me and initiated a banner exchange then decided afterward that we were "too violent" and changed their mind and refused to host our banner. Fine, if they don't want us, we don't want them. If you ask me, their movies aren't violent enough. What I've seen from them is lots and lost of softcore lesbian crap and very little in the way of bondage. Bottom line, they're just plain boring.

So...prove me wrong. If you can.

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LTL: Excellent review. Live Animals is in my Netflix queue. I wasn't hoping for much, and after reading what you had to say, it sounds like I'll be getting exactly what I expected. Gee, that's a surprise. A horror film in which the worst tortures are inflicted upon the men. Another day, yet another mainstream disappointment.

The direct link for your review is in my Homepage URL.

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I also like the pictures of Eliza Dushku from all who linked them. I can never get enough of her.

Ralphus Wrote:

Ibbius: Your post about Bound Heat's new movie reads like a press release. We used to have a poster here who would sing their praises, but it turned out he was just part of their affiliate program and was using this forum strictly for advertising to hopefully line his own pockets (disguising himself by posting under multiple screen names). If you'd like to do an honest review of one of Bound Heat's titles, I'd like to hear what you have to say. But frankly, I'm leery of anyone who comes on this site and announces how great Bound Heat is.

Hey Ralphus, a press release is exactly what Ibbius' post most likely is. I am a registered member of the Boundheat forums, but not a member of their affiliate program. There is a member by the name of Ibbius over there too, they may be one and the same.

Sorry, but i have problems to use the HTML code.

Obviously the message that I post in the forum is to be considered a press release.

I can not do a review it would not be honest as i'm dealing to advertise the website of Boundheat.com, though I do not earn a penny .......

Regarding your criticism I can say only this.

I like the BDSM world for so long, especially the kind WIP movies.

I accidentally discovered BoundHeat some years ago and always by chance I later found out that its founder, Lloyd A. Simandl , was what he had done many WIP films (Chained Heat II & III, Autumn Born ) that I loved .

For me Boundheat.com is one of the few production who manages to make WIP films of good quality.

If you then tell me that is not quite as violent as Mood Pictures or Elitepain I obviously agree with you. But these are choices of production do not use real whips with the girls.

Even the sex scenes lesbians are not Hardcore, this because they want to produce films that are not classified like BDSM commercials or Lesbian Porn.

If you love movies with very strong scenes of sex and violence, you probably have reason to judge boring the movies of Boundheat.com.

But the BDSM enthusiast who wants to find a good story, good directing,multiple locations, always new ideas for punishment, now also well done scenes with Ponygirls so he appreciates these films.

In addition to their credit I must say they're hearing many of the proposals that the fans are written on their forum and then these ideas of the fans, how to punish the girls, using very young girls or MILF, suggest the setting of the next film.

Take care.

ibbius

I just watched Eliza in the movie Open Graves recently. No Gimpage that I know of (as I didn't get to watch it all the way through), and really wasn't expecting any, but was really disappointed in another way. The movie opens with a shot of Eliza on the beach in a bikini. However, she's shown from a distance and only from the waist up. The camera switches views, and then returns just in time to watch Eliza zipping up her wet suit to her neck. In other words, we get nothing.

We've been talking about the idiocy of a lot of producers (male tortures, stupid plotlines, etc.), I'm beginning to think it's a virus or something and spreading. I mean really, you've got Eliza; you've got her on the beach…in a freekin' bikini….and nothing. GEEEZZZEEE PEOPLE….COME ON!

Well I gotta go do some remodeling as therapy. Am removing my chandelier and installing one of these on my ceiling instead.

I feel better already!

I wouldn't make a big deal out of it, but I kinda feel sorry for Emmanuelle. In the movie "Wrong Turn", just moments after that picture you posted, she gets an axe in the mouth.

Gabriela

Nice catch! Out of all the Gimpees here you're the only one who caught it. Right movie, wrong girl. It kinda looks like her though. I should have known from the outfit.

Let's see how good you really are…any idea what movie the guy who looks like he got a hold of some bad cheese is from (from an earlier post)? Hint: A very Gimpable sounding title.

Anyone?

Harko, you're good, and just a wee bit quicker than me :) Congratulations!

Anyway, I hope you don't think I was being a cheeky little beyotch. If I was, I'll bend over, grab my ankles, and take my spanking. Panties up or down?

Gabriela

Anyway, I hope you don't think I was being a cheeky little beyotch. If I was, I'll bend over, grab my ankles, and take my spanking. Panties up or down?

Dude, it's a trick question. Don't fall for it. She's offering to grab her ankles, right? That would imply that her hands wouldn't be tied. She definitely needs to be tightly secured before any punishment is dished out (and gagged, too). Don't let her get off that easy!

Ralphus wrote:

Anyway, I hope you don't think I was being a cheeky little beyotch. If I was, I'll bend over, grab my ankles, and take my spanking. Panties up or down?

Dude, it's a trick question. Don't fall for it. She's offering to grab her ankles, right? That would imply that her hands wouldn't be tied. She definitely needs to be tightly secured before any punishment is dished out (and gagged, too). Don't let her get off that easy!

I have to agree with Ralphus on this one. A simple spanking isn't going to be enough. How about we tie Gabriela to a whipping post and each one of us GIMPERs give her a single lash each with a whip, or better yet turn Red Feline's JJ loose on her...?

Anyway, I think LTL should decide my fate. I'm not sure what he's into, but based on his reviews I'm thinking I'll be stripped down, and suspended by either my wrists or ankles.

Hey, LTL, can I at least keep my bra and panties on? (she asks nervously, with a lump in her throat)

Gabriela

Gabriela Atar wrote:

Tied to a whipping post?!? Yikes! I wonder how many lashes I would get if every Gimper got one?

To be quite honest, I really don't know. I have no idea how many total GIMPERs there are amoung us in this community. For all I know there could be hundreds, if not thousands or millions of us out there. To avoid the punishment becomming too excessive, LTL could as the Master of Ceremony choose about 17 or 18 of his fellow GIMPERs and each would give you a single lash for a total of 18 or 19, including LTL's starting lash.

Anyhow, 18 or 19 lashes from a select set of individuals would be far better for you than being tossed into the clutches of Red Feline's JJ. Just ask Jane Von Deltefson. She regularly ends up bloodied and nailed to a cross or some other contraption. I don't think you'ld want to join Jane.

Just wanted to let you know RingDivas publicly released my custom vid.

A mini review: Sam Sexton (Karen Michelle Long) is jumped by a masked guy who KOs her by choking her and throwing her against a wall. She awakens strapped AOH to the "Torture Rack of Death" in a blue bra and panty set. Over the next 12-15 minutes, she's slapped (only 2x), punched, choked, beaten with a nightstick, kneed (only once), and finally tasered after having a little water splashed on her. There are a couple of KOs. The acting is better for the hits than for the choking and taser action but unfortunately the feisty demeanor I asked for is only there briefly and she's mostly begging/pleading which I don't like. My grade is a B+ since "Sam" looks pretty hot AOH and takes her shots well.

Both girls are cool, and I wouldn't want them to fight over which one feels my lash...then again, maybe I would. :)

But I have been fantasizing more about Eliza since I saw her (briefly) naked in The Alphabet Killer (unfortunately, not a GIMP scene). So I guess my answer to your question is yes...for now. (Summer, that's your cue to get naked onscreen ASAP!)

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Anubis has a preview clip from a flick called Girls Night Out (see URL). I spotted a few violations of the GIMPer's Manual: loose bondage - girls escaping - hands tied in front. Has anyone seen the whole movie?

I just love how over the top Arch Hall Jr. was in that. Unfortunately, no Gimpage like you nay have thought there might be from the title.

As far as Gabriela Atar's offer? My first reaction was "Oooohh", before Ralphus brought me back to reality. It would definitely be hanging from the ankles. But as far as you being allowed to keep your bra and panties on, where would the fun be in that?

I think I'll need to stew over her actual fate some while I take a massage. I'll call ya guys when I make my mind up. I am open to more suggestions though.

An interesting little tidbit on Wrong Turn (although my memory could be wrong and it might have been Wrong Turn 2), the gag-takedown was shot, I can't remember the actual #, but was around 20 takes or so. So many in fact that the actress's mouth was becoming sore and raw. All for a shot that lasted only a few seconds.

If you love the M/F scenes good for you.

But I love much the scenes F/F, I find that the component lesbian domination add much to a scene, especially to a whipping scene.

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MAV~With your custom, I'm beginning to see a pattern. You're into AOH huh ;-)

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Yik Yakker ~ I've had The Alphabet Killer on my radar for a while (probably for similar reasons you watched it for), any good? No Eliza Gimpage, but any at all?

As far as Summer Glau goes, I wrote her a letter on your behalf:

Dear Summer,

Please let us see you naked.

Thank you,
Yik Yakker

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Ah, nothing like a good massage to clear your head.

Well Gabriela, I'm ready for ya, and have decided what your fate will be.

We're going to start off in a very severe fashion, hitting you where it hurts most. Since you described yourself as a fashionista, and guys, let me know if this is too cruel, but for starters we're going to take away your Flava Flav clock necklace you are so proud of, and keep you from wearing it for a month (I was going to say year, but thought that would be way too inhumane).

After such a harsh beginning we'll give you a bit of a reprieve. We'll go with Scot's idea of the bra and panties being cut off by the whip, but I think I'll keep you in an upside-down suspension and have you tightly tied spread-eagle between two posts. And will go with the whipping since the guys are so in favor of it. Maybe let maybe 20 or so Gimpers take a shot each like Ed suggested (who? determined by our moderator Ralphus).

With this mild part of your torment past, we will have to gag you at this point as what is to follow is particularly horrendous, and you will undoubtedly be screaming your head off during it. At this time we will put dilating drops in your eyes so you won't be able to close them, and then force you to watch 8 hours of Robot Monster. I think this will then conclude your torment as you will undoubtedly have passed out by now anyway.

So guys…what da ya think? Too cruel? OK, we can cut down the Robot Monster to 4 hours.

As I type this, I'm already hanging by my ankles, my legs spread wide between two posts. I'm feeling more than a little tension in my thighs. Did I mention my legs are spread WIDE? When I'm done posting this message, I'm told my arms will also be stretched out and tightly tied to the posts. And once I'm in this tight, four point spread-eagle, I'll be left to wonder just how much force a whip needs to tear a girl's bra and panties off. Not the kind of thing you want to be thinking about when you're upside-down.

And then 8 hours of "Robot Chicken". Wait, that was "Robot Monster"? Is that the one with a guy in a gorilla suit, who's wearing a spacesuit? You better keep me tightly tied.

BTW, that was the first "Wrong Turn" where the girl gets the barb-wire gag multiple times. I think it's in the 'making of' bonus footage. The actress is Lindy Booth. I know that because I looked it up on IMDB. I thought there was a redhead who got killed off early in the movie. Like I said, both Eliza Dushku and Emmanuelle Chriqui were brunettes. Also, you should listen to the commentary for that film. Eliza talks about the famous scene where she's tied to the bed with wire and gagged with a belt.

Well, I better stop typing now, the guys want to tie my arms. What's that? The first guy who whips my bra off gets to put clamps on my nipples. Hey! That wasn't in the agreement! Hey!

Gabriela

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Gabriela Atar wrote: The first guy who whips my bra off gets to put clamps on my nipples. Hey! That wasn't in the agreement! Hey!

A couple of questions for the male GIMPers here as Gabriela watches her first hours of "Robot Monster." What color should her bra and panties be? I prefer white for some reason. Adds to the perceived innocence of the victim.

Also, should we blindfold her at some point? I enjoy that bit of sensory deprivation at times, especially during whippings. The shock effect coupled with the sting of the whip does produce some nice reactions. I also get hugely turned on when the victim braces herself (preferably while whimpering) for a lash that can come at any second. Any thoughts?

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Gabriela: Showbiz tends to worship blonds, but I prefer brunettes most of the time. Redheads are OK too. Say, do you think we could get you and Jane together for a GIMP party? Double the fun, you know?

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LTL: The Alphabet Killer is really more of a psychological thriller. The victims are all schoolgirls, so we never see what happens to them. Eliza Dushku's character gets tied up briefly, wrists behind the back, but of course the villain neglects to bind her feet and she gets loose anyway. The movie is interesting, but not GIMP-worthy.

BTW, I like your letter asking Summer Glau to do nude. Short and to the point. Think she'll buy it?

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I haven't done a GIMP review for quite a while, mainly because I haven't seen anything good. The next few titles on my viewing list are: New York Ripper, Cut and Run, Black Sheep. If I find any of these worthwhile, I'll write a review. Any suggestions?

Brutus wrote:

A couple of questions for the male GIMPers here as Gabriela watches her first hours of "Robot Monster." What color should her bra and panties be? I prefer white for some reason. Adds to the perceived innocence of the victim.

Also, should we blindfold her at some point? I enjoy that bit of sensory deprivation at times, especially during whippings. The shock effect coupled with the sting of the whip does produce some nice reactions. I also get hugely turned on when the victim braces herself (preferably while whimpering) for a lash that can come at any second. Any thoughts?

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I have no preference when it comes to the color of her bra and panties, but I would suggest she be made to wear lingerie instead. I just love to see a girl in lingerie having her lingerie torn away by the strikes of a whip. And yes, please blindfold her! This way she won't be able to anticipate where the next strike will be coming from.

By the way Ralphus, would you be interested in taking photographs of Gabriela taking the whipping part of her punishment and posting them as daily pictures on the board?

Yes, you are correct on Robot Monster. Actually that movie won a very prestigious film award…"Best outer space monster wearing a gorilla suit with a diving helmet."

I do realize however that I need to do something with your mouth, as you won't be gagged until phase three. I've got just the thing to remedy that….just the thing to shove into it………..a stylus, so someone can hold a Blackberry in front of your face in case you want to plead your case or share your horror, knowing Robot Monster is looming on the horizon.

Brutus you can blindfold her here in a bit, but not until all the guys show up so she knows exactly what's she's in for.

Before Ralphus starts choosing who exactly will participate in Gabriela's whipping, I thought I should point out that I am not interested in being one of the participants. I am the type who prefers to watch, but not participate.

Your mini-review is in my Homepage URL above.

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Yik Yakker wrote:

The Alphabet Killer is really more of a psychological thriller. The victims are all schoolgirls, so we never see what happens to them. Eliza Dushku's character gets tied up briefly, wrists behind the back, but of course the villain neglects to bind her feet and she gets loose anyway. The movie is interesting, but not GIMP-worthy.

Damn! Idiot filmmakers! Always tie the feet! Well, at least Eliza Dushku does get naked, even if it's only brief. I had no idea she even did nude scenes. And I haven't gotten a new copy of the "Bare Facts Video Guide" for a while so I'm not up to date.

Talking about Eliza, she's one of my favorites, another one of that incredible harem of babes from "Buffy The Vampire Slayer". And now that her show is canceled, maybe she'll be cast in more movies where she can play a victim, because she's very good at doing that. Gabriela mentioned the commentary track for Wrong Turn. If I recall correctly, she says she spent an entire week filming that scene where she's tied to that bed with barbed wire. Man, wouldn't you have liked to have been part of the crew for that shoot?

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Summer Glau naked: probably not going to happen, although it should. That's a very cute girl. She's had 3 bondage scenes, according to Brian's Page, including the tied-to-the-stake-but-the-idiots-never-lit-the-fire scene on "Firefly", which is where I first noticed her.

Here, this may help. Summer Glau naked AND in bondage, courtesy of BC: http://ralphus.net/dailypic/Summer_Glau02.jpg

And while we're at it, here's one of Eliza. I think these were both taken by the same rusty car lot. http://ralphus.net/dailypic/Eliza_Dushku315.jpg

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Yik Yakker also wrote:

I haven't done a GIMP review for quite a while, mainly because I haven't seen anything good. The next few titles on my viewing list are: New York Ripper, Cut and Run, Black Sheep. If I find any of these worthwhile, I'll write a review. Any suggestions?

I haven't seen Black Sheep (never heard of it, actually). In I recall, Cut and Run has a brief bondage suspension scene with that chick from Officer and a Gentleman, but otherwise, I don't remember anything GIMP-worthy. But New York Ripper? Omigod, there's your movie, if for no other reason than the incredible spread-eagled razor blade torture scene with the naked blonde chick. E-mail me before you possibly write up a review and I'll hook you with some cool screen caps.

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Blindfolding the victim: I'm not normally in favor of blindfolds, since I like to see the victim's eyes, but Brutus' idea is a good one. That way she won't know where or when the next blow of the whip will strike.

What color panties and bra? Once again, Brutus is right on target. White is more "innocent" for me than sexy colored underwear like lingerie.

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Ed wrote:

Before Ralphus starts choosing who exactly will participate in Gabriela's whipping, I thought I should point out that I am not interested in being one of the participants. I am the type who prefers to watch, but not participate.

Ha! Pussy! I think Ed should start us off then. Hand him a whip. Come on, don't you want to be a real man?

Hey, anybody that wants to take part in Gabriela's punishment, come on down. I'm not limiting it to 20 people. The more the merrier, and the more stokes of the whip, the more painful for her. Ed, come on down, too. You can run camera.

Ralphus wrote:

Ha! Pussy! I think Ed should start us off then. Hand him a whip. Come on, don't you want to be a real man?

Hey, anybody that wants to take part in Gabriela's punishment, come on down. I'm not limiting it to 20 people. The more the merrier, and the more stokes of the whip, the more painful for her. Ed, come on down, too. You can run camera.

Sorry Ralphus, I am sticking to my preference. Besides, I'd have more fun laughing my head off while watching Gabriela get her comeuppance then I would dishing it out.

Ralphus wrote:

Come on, don't you want to be a real man?

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that I really resent that remark. I AM A REAL MAN!!

Besides you wouldn't want me calling you a midget... now would you?

Besides you wouldn't want me calling you a midget... now would you?

I prefer the term "vertically challenged".

Be careful, or I might have to give Bill Zebub your address. Although he's not much taller than I am. But he has lots of scary long hair.

Ralphus, my point exactly. If you don't like hearing someone say it to you, don't say it to him yourself. Maybe you should take your own advice.

And I quote: " A simple spanking isn't going to be enough. How about we tie Gabriela to a whipping post and each one of us GIMPERs give her a single lash each with a whip, or better yet turn Red Feline's JJ loose on her...?"

(no commentary possible….as he just shakes his head)

Wait….I know you….you're that guy who does the play by play in the The Accused, that movie where Jodie Foster gets raped huh?

Wait a minute here….it was Ed's idea in the first place about the whipping….now he doesn't want to take part in it.

Aw, leave the guy alone. At least he came up with the idea. But I still say a "Real Man" would want to be part of the action. It's a rite of passage. Some of us are doers, some of us only watch. I say the best situation is to participate, then go home and watch the videotaped footage. That way you get the best of both worlds.

Ed, it almost sounds like you're serious that I offended you. Hard to tell from just reading text. Sorry if you take my tongue-in-cheek comments a different way than they were intended.

And by the way, I'M A MIDGET AND I'M PROUD!

Hey Ralphus, checked out Criminal Minds yet? Last night's rerun on A&E was "The Big Game". A scene in this one has an adulteress housewife captured by the killer and tied arms outstretched to her sides, tape gagged kneeling on a mattress. The killer then releases 4 vicious rottweilers on her who maul her to death. She pleads very nicely. Did I mention she's wearing a skimpy little black nightie number? (She was captured during a rendezvous with her lover). Of course the actual mauling isn't shown... but the sicko videotapes it and puts it on the Internet. The BAU team sees the video, and you can hear the dogs attack and the reactions on their faces tell the story. And the very gory aftermath is also shown.

General question. Hank put out some nice videos of a movie called "Snuff Trap". Interesting looking movie. Anyone seen this?

Ran a search on "cruel and unusual punishment" and it referred me to "see also 'Robot Monster' - to think my fellow Gimpers would subject Gabriela to such anguish takes torment to a whole other level.

As a matter of fact am currently working on a script for a remake of "Mark of the Devil" and intend to cast Gabriela in the Gaby Fuchs role - even after serious rack time, flogging, foot branding, tongue extraction and death by fire her emotional stability will be far more intact than after a single "Robot Monster" viewing.

After seeing today's Jane pics I also want to script a remake of "Ilsa" with Jane in the noosed girl on ice role - of course in my version we'll see a whole lot more of her torment that leads up to that scene.

Over the weekend received my latest order from Video Mayhem - tried to pick out the best of the crop - hope I find something noteworthy to pass on to you sick twisted perverts.

Stay Well All

1. A guy in bondage gear and hooded mask uses a knife to slice off the bra of a blonde (not in bondage) and gives her a hard backhand, which knocks her down and exposes her breasts. He has another woman, a brunette in leather bondage attire, leather-cuffed AOH. The guy beats the crap out of blondie, does some knife play and then stabs her in the gut. All of this is being filmed.

2. In a fake snuff scene, a woman is cuffed unconvincingly to a cross (the villain simply pushes her hands through the manacles) and hacks her throat with a machete.

3. Our blond heroine goes to a dungeon-studio where she sees two women on a circular bed being tormented by two guys in hoods. A topless blonde is on her knees, head down, and arms cuffed behind back. She has a fat leather bit gag in her mouth. She gets huge pincers inserted into her propped-up ass, and her reaction is quite nice. The other woman, a brunette in bra and panties, gets the candle wax treatment. But just as this scene was getting good, a midget comes in and ends the action.

4. The two hooded guys take away our heroine, and she ends up naked on a bed. I guess she allows herself to be raped and beaten (off-screen) for information about her sister.

5. In another brief movie-making scene, another masked dude dunks the head of a naked woman in a hot tub surrounded by three masked women in latex lingerie.

6. A topless woman in black garter belt and panties gets chained to a cross in an upper spreadeagle. She is bit-gagged and a dude in a hood cuts her midriff with a knife. He then takes a red-hot poker and sears her ass, as she somehow is now chained to a metal gate and not gagged.

7. In the same studio, a naked blonde is cuffed AOH and gets whipped, her backside already showing bloody welts.

8. In another room, we have a topless woman on her back cuffed AOH and her legs suspended by a spreader bar. Two women in hoods whip her tits as she screams in pain.

9. The sisters end up chained to crosses, with the heroine topless and the missing sister in bra and panties. They are threatened with knives. The cuffs are ridiculously loose on the topless sister.

So there you have it. Despite the plethora of scenes, I wasn't that taken in by them, mainly because they were so brief or ended abruptly. Not a bad effort to cater to GIMPers, but it could have been much better IMHO.

I saw Snuff Trap. There are a handful of scenes in that which aren't bad and it looks like Hank clipped all of them. The last one with both blondes (mother & daughter) is disappointing because the hot daughter is never stripped as her mom is. The other scenes are short and not bad IMO. My favorite is the one with 2 girls tied up, one AOH and one arms behind who is crop-gagged and is penetrated by something.

In a very little known fact, The Marquis de Sade was a bit of a Nostradamus historian. It has actually been theorized that what drove the man mad was the pursuit of what was thought to be the most insidious method of torture known to man. A torture prophesied hundreds of years earlier by Nostradamus as “de filem Monstreous Robotos.”

After the censorship the BDSM movies now have a new terrible enemy the pandemic influenza H1N1.

Unfortunately, the new film will be blocked for more than a month, and this is the sequel to Caligula's Spawn , a film set in ancient Rome; a story of slave and master, with a cast of about 15 babes and most are NAKED!

Fuck you virus......

ibbius wrote:

For the production of Boundheat: "On Friday it was confirmed that one of the crew (a focus puller) has H1N1 flu. The production has then decided to interrupt the shoot and to send everybody home in order to avoid any potential spread of it. The shoot will be re started in the New Year."

After the censorship the BDSM movies now have a new terrible enemy the pandemic influenza H1N1.

Unfortunately, the new film will be blocked for more than a month, and this is the sequel to Caligula's Spawn , a film set in ancient Rome; a story of slave and master, with a cast of about 15 babes and most are NAKED!

Fuck you virus......

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ibbius, I don't know how to say this. I doubt any of us care about a boundheat crew member having the H1N1 flu. Frankly, all your posts here seem to be advertisements for Boundheat. I know that there has been at least one person who got kicked out for posting nothing but boundheat advertisements. It looks like you are also going down the same road.

While the women are attractive, I can see hot naked chicks like that on any porn site worthy of the name. Ibbius, tell us about how Bound Heat has improved and is making a great GIMP movie with male domination, believable bondage and peril scenes, and above average porn acting or SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO AWAY!

Hey, am I being too vague here?

Mini mainstream review of Wrong Turn 3~Left For Dead.

Wrong Turn 3~Left For Dead

In the third installment of the Wrong Turn series, a group of 4 whitewater rafters fall prey to a father and son team of cannibal mutant inbred hillbillies. As if the potential group of 4 wasn't enough, the hillbillies must think it's Thanksgiving, as the potential bounty becomes much, much larger with the stranding of a prison transport vehicle with guards and prisoners aboard. Add a couple of local cops in search of the missing guards and prisoners and you've got virtual slaughter smorgasbord! Mmmm Mmmmmm, good e'tin!

Gimp wise, it seems with the WT series you'll always know where to find the bound scenes…at the very end and with barbed wire (Eliza spread in the 1st, another chair tied in the 2nd). This one is no different as again, at the very end…and again with barbed wire. In the 3rd installment we have the star, (played by Janet Montgomery also in Hills Run Red) bound with her hands behind her back. It actually looks like she might be about to get raped from behind….until the mutant hears a helicopter fly overhead. Now ain't that shit for timing?

Then we have a local female cop (played by Emma Clifford), who made the mistake of engaging in a conversation with a prison inmate that went something like, Prisoner: “why so rough. You must like to be tied up huh? Female cop: “You mean hogtied and gagged to where I can't move a muscle?....No!” Mistake honey, as she later ends up naked and bound in barbed wire.

Entertainment value: With the WT's you pretty much know what to expect. The first one was OK (because of Eliza). The second sucked massive ass! This one wasn't that bad. I'm not saying it wasn't without some corny moments…but overall not bad. Then throw in a fairly long nice boobage segment with Louise Cliffe in the first five minutes, and yeaugh….I can watch this one. Grade C+

Gimp value: Fair scene with Janet Montgomery made better with the wall dressing of a naked Emma Clifford. Only problem is there's not much struggling from her as she's about to expire. But still a nice visual encased in barbed wire. Grade C+

But again that's not what I want to argue about. I'm just wondering why Ibbius is getting such rough treatment for even posting about Bound Heat. Sure he may be advertising, but he's far from being annoying about it and far from doing it more than any other posters who frequent here, agenda hidden or not, to promote their site. Seems kind of immature compared to the good behavior I usually see from this board.

Now, I'm not blaming Ibbius for that; he had nothing to do with it, but all of a sudden we have a relative newbie posting here frequently and guess what? All he can talk about is Bound Heat. Hmmmmm....

I gave him the benefit of the doubt and told him to give an honest review of one of their titles and try to prove to me why they're so great. And his reply?

"I can not do a review it would not be honest as i'm dealing to advertise the website of Boundheat.com, though I do not earn a penny ....... "

Okay, Ibbius, I'll ask you, why can't you give an honest review? People have accused me of being a shill for ZFX, asked me how much Rick pays me for promoting his site (the answer is nothing, BTW) and yet, I can still review his movies honestly, even when I don't like them, which happens sometimes. Do you really watch Bound Heat films? Are you afraid if you said something negative that people won't buy their movies?

And if you claim you're not being paid, then why are you here advertising Bound Heat? You're telling me you're not a member of their affiliate program? Because if you are, then all this spamming makes sense.

And why not join in the discussions we have about other subjects? We have lots of people who post here from other sites, and they obviously have an agenda (to attract potential customers) but they still take the time to post about other things and interact with the rest of us. We're a discussion forum. I have no problem with promotion as long as you play ball and attempt to join in the discussions. If you're ONLY here to advertise, I don't see how that would be much of a benefit to the site.

Watching ibbius try to defend the indefensible by advocating for female-only movies could be fun.

I've been trying to find the movie for this picture but have turned up with no success. The link to aebn is to a Shadowplay Imaging movie but isn't the correct one.

I'll post a couple of the pictures. Just wondering if anybody would know which movie it is.

http://www.fetishmoviepost.com/agsthumbs/3668.jpg

http://img1.banditmovies.com/st/thumbs/040/0814826681.jpg

http://85.17.93.24/0nlybdsm.com/1731.jpg

http://www.sultanofsmut.com/xthumbs/36639.jpg

Hope you guys can help

hoonbeforebreakfast - can't help on that one - never seen the chick or movie.

LTL - thanks for the heads-up on "Wrong Turn 3" - yeah, the formula seems to be laid out with the Gimp moments near the conclusion and is probably well worth a rental - let's give credit where some is due - at least this bunch has the cajones to have a naked chick bound with barbed wire - my hat is off to them for that alone these days - also, thanks for that Gimp trivia on the good Marquis and Nostrodamus - could you help me out on that - I simply cannot recall what century and quatrain has that reference.

ibbius - I hate to be a stickler for the rules yet once again I must refer you to the Gimp Rules Manual - section 12 paragraph 6 clearly states "never send a woman to do a man's job" - you know, I agree with Dr Yuya that you have represented what your agenda is from the start and have not been annoying about it so that part is cool - however numerous other posters with agendas have contributed to this forum and manage to engage in chatter about other sites, movies, genres, producers, models, etc. - so until you do that I simply fast forward over your post as I'm familiar with Bound Heat and find none of that material to my liking - so here's an idea for you - Sardu and I both viewed a recent work, "The Torturer" and our take on that flick could not have been more different - but it was productive chatter - take a gander and let us know what you think of it and you would gain some "Gimp cred" on the forum.

Taking off on a Thanksgiving road trip during which time I will contemplate the uses of cranberries and a turkey baster as implements of torment - Happy Turkey Day gang.

Stay Well All

Good luck in your search. Made your links a little easier for others to click on. Hopefully someone will get you your answer.

http://www.fetishmoviepost.com/agsthumbs/3668.jpg
http://img1.banditmovies.com/st/thumbs/040/0814826681.jpg
http://85.17.93.24/0nlybdsm.com/1731.jpg
http://www.sultanofsmut.com/xthumbs/36639.jpg

Yeaugh, that's the same thing I thought…hey, some nudity in a bound scene. Only took 'em three attempts to get there though.

As far as the Nostradamus location? Well that that can be found at the end of his 1534 writing of "Inflictuos la paina". It appears that that particular writing was a work in progress as the reference to "de filem Monstreous Robotos" is in an unfinished chapter right after the chapter entitled "Violencia gratuitus de Stoogea Trios".

LTL: Well I gotta go do some remodeling as therapy. Am removing my chandelier and installing one of these on my ceiling instead.

Cool. Now all you need is super-glue to keep her in place, a laser-stripper and a dildo coming from the beam behind her.

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Gabriela: I wonder how many lashes I would get if every Gimper got one?

I think I'll finger her wet pussy for a bit before laying my lash across her hot clit. Wow, that made her jump nicely!

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Brutus: What color should her bra and panties be? I prefer white for some reason. Adds to the perceived innocence of the victim.

No reason we can't let her change bra and panties between whippings. I like the pastel colors – light blue or lavender would probably look real nice. But I don't think I'll whip them off. Slicing them to ribbons with an iced hunting knife (while threatening her nipples and clit) would be much more fun! (See the stripping of Brigitte Petronio in “The House on the Edge of the Park” as an example.)

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Yik Yakker: Anubis has a preview clip from a flick called Girls Night Out (see URL). I spotted a few violations of the GIMPer's Manual: loose bondage - girls escaping - hands tied in front.

And they're not even stripped! What a loser GIMP this guy is!

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Ralphus: Well, at least Eliza Dushku does get naked, even if it's only brief.

Screen-cap, please?

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Ibbius: Fuck you virus.

That would be a cool bit of bio-warfare, wouldn't it? “Surrender or we'll spray your towns with FYV and all your cute women will come fuck us!”

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LTL: Only problem is there's not much struggling from her as she's about to expire. But still a nice visual encased in barbed wire.

On-screen death? Naked or at least topless? I may need to NetFlix and capture this one.

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Sardu: As I read posts, they respond to what others have said.

Right. JohnM occasionally advertises here, but he always replies to on-going conversation. Ibbius doesn't.

Hey everyone. Just wanted to post some updates.

I shot some more bondage stuff that will be out in the coming weeks as well as the one posted in the link below. This was a new girl, curvy as has been requested lately. She has large, wonderful natural 18yo breasts. She did well. This video was her first time ever being tied up. She told us later that there was a moment of panic as she realized she could not escape and we put the rope around her neck. I guess it helped her performance. At the end of the video we did some rope puppetry which looked kind of interesting and I am thinking of doing a full standing human puppet rigging.

Last night I shot a 3 segment video with Micah Moore. It contains some bondage with hardcore sex. There is forced orgasm, domination, suspension, and we made her squirt. :-) This was my first all bondage-themed video and is designed as a portfolio video, but will be published on my site later with a death ending.

Later this month or next, I have a world renowned bondage rigger dropping by the studio for some lessons. I am excited about that.

Big news---there is a huge, huge sale going on at both my stores on Nicheclips. Over 40 movies between the stores are just $10....some of those movies are over 50% off. The reason is I was distracted with family illness this month and did not release my normal amount of movies. So, I need to resolve the income issue promptly. Please help if you can.

As always, you can mail your orders directly to me. The prices on the site are listed higher for this service, however I am offering 2 special options for mail orders. #1, take 30% off the total or #2, buy 2 movies and get one free.

Finally, there has been some confusion about my website. It is a private website and in order to get the link for it, you must join my forum. In addition to the link and great forum discussion, you get access to over 30 thousand production photos from all my shoots published and to be released shot in the last 3 years.

"Bondage Tourniquet Strangle II" Starring Charley Big Preview Details and Purchase: http://nicheclips.com/shop.php?store_id=57

Thanks,

JohnM

The visionary that Nostradamus was, was reflected more so in this particular body of work as he foresaw a worldwide universal language being spoken one day. His writings reflected the languages of the day, incorporating French, Spanish, and even some Germanic, thus incorporating bits and pieces as he foresaw the universal language of the future to look like. As a matter of fact, I recall reading an almost word for word rant in Germanic similar to the rant spoken in German onscreen by Sven Garrett in Murder Set Pieces

As far as Plan Nine from Outer Space, I do believe you will find the mention you search of as it is as a horrendous torture asRobot Monster is.

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jhlipton wrote: On-screen death? Naked or at least topless? I may need to NetFlix and capture this one.

Gimpage aside, it wasn't all that bad (Wrong Turn 3). I'd say the worst part of the movie was the ridiculous booby-traps (No, they-are-to-hurt-people…not to catch boobies. Though I'd much prefer the latter ;-). And I know I need to check my analytic observations at the door when watching these kind of movies, but the speed and precision to which these traps are executed is a little much to swallow….especially since they are constructed by… MUTANTS!.

==== ==== BTW, here's your Eliza

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JohnM wrote: ~This video was her first time ever being tied up. She told us later that there was a moment of panic as she realized she could not escape and we put the rope around her neck. I guess it helped her performance.

Shame on you for freakin' out the new girl….yeaugh, do it some more! ;-)

About your sale…cool! You've got a couple that I've been wanting for a while.

PKF's Bondage Bagger w/Reyja Wood & Strangle & Release w/Summer

I also noticed you have a new store, Quick Flicks. Monster Fuck & Kill looks interesting. BTW, I wonder if MAV knows about this one…AOH w/Lexxi.

A couple of sale ones recommended:
PKF's The Good Murders w/Keely (tight killer bod!) & The Basement's Sexual Killer No bondage in this one but a very hot rape (sim) of a brunette Lexxi on a pool table.

Likewise, I don't really care if Ibbius promotes Bound Heat here, but like Bakerboy, his efforts so far ("naked women! lesbian sex scenes!") have been rather lame, considering the tastes of the posters on the GIMP board.

Ibbius earlier wrote: If you love movies with very strong scenes of sex and violence, you probably have reason to judge boring the movies of Boundheat.com.

Here's the problem. Most of us love movies with strong scenes of sexual violence. I've seen three Bound Heat movies and they were way too tame and boring for me. Instead of just spouting off about the greatness of Bound Heat and giving us updates on the health conditions of their cast and crew, why not describe some scenes that might actually interest us?

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LTL: Thanks for the info on "Wrong Turn 3." I'll probably check it out, seeing as I have watched the first two. The second film was a nice example of wasted potential.

Oh, and thanks for the link to the Eliza pics. Wow! Killer body.

LTL: Thanks for the info on "Wrong Turn 3." I'll probably check it out, seeing as I have watched the first two. The second film was a nice example of wasted potential.

Oh, and thanks for the link to the Eliza pics. Wow! Killer body.

Brutus has stated my thoughts exactly. I especially like Eliza in the blue bikini pics (from Bring It On). She should show off that hot bod more often. These pics are much better and bigger than the ones I have.

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I hope to submit a review of New York Ripper this coming weekend. Ralphus, I'll be sending you an e-mail to request some pics for the review.

I gotta admit that doesn't look much like barbed wire in that pic, though. To do it right, you need to make it a bit bloody and have the victim wince in pain as she struggles. I still haven't seen that Blood Brothers movie that Cannon mentioned last month, but I'm hoping that one has a worthwhile barbed wire scene, too. That looks a little too bloody, though.

Meanwhile, I'm adding Wrong Turn 3 into my Netflix queue. And the direct link for your review is in my Homepage URL above.

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Brutus: It wasn't an official review, but you gave us quite a bit of details on Snuff Trap and I think that deserves to be added to the section, too. Can you at least give us a letter grade before I add it?

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The PKF Sale: Every time I try to pick out a list of movies to order from PKF, there's always something new being added or some new sale. Obviously, it's a lot more cost-effective to order directly from John, which makes me regret more and more the 100 bucks I pissed away by investing in NicheClips, which is how I initially thought was the only way to get these titles. Now I'll have to send another check to John, wait around until it clears, and hope there's something I'll eventually want to buy through NicheClips.

Too bad I can't use that $100 to buy a membership to Bound Heat instead. Naked women... lesbian sex scenes...boy, that's hard to pass up.

Ah, Eliza Dushku and Emanuelle Chriqui-the only reasons why I sat through the first Wrong Turn. They are pretty close if not at the top of my wish list for getting strung up by the wrists and tortured. At least I know what Eliza would sound like in that kinda scene given her voiceover work in that "Wet" videogame but I doubt Chriqui will ever get close.

Regardless if your not into the monster-fucking concept, it probably will play as silly. It is to me. :-)

JohnM

Since I initially made the choice that I wasn't interested in participating in Gabriela's whipping, I have been giving it some thought. More specifically, I have been thinking about the reasoning behind the choice. It has become clear to me that I made this choice due to a complete lack of experience in the area. Being someone who prefers to watch but not participate in general, I have never whipped anyone.

After debating the issue in my head over the last couple of days, I have decided that I am still not interested in participating, but only so I can take the time to observe and see how it's done correctly. I don't want my first attempt to be too harsh, it just isn't who I am both as a GIMPer and as a man.

PS, I hope Gabriela doesn't say or do something to provoke me...

After debating the issue in my head over the last couple of days, I have decided that I am still not interested in participating, but only so I can take the time to observe and see how it's done correctly. I don't want my first attempt to be too harsh, it just isn't who I am both as a GIMPer and as a man.

Ed, you have certainly taken Ralphus's comments to heart in a way that is so surprisingly foreign to most of us.

While a little bit of self-analysis is good, I suppose, you better be careful. If you don't watch it, you could find yourself sounding a bit too much like that Misunderstood Artist, Bill Zebub.

Sloth - Count me in for the Ilsa remake. I've thought for a long time that Mark of the Devil deserves a remake as well.

At the moment I'm crafting my first review here, I won't tell you what the movie is, it's a surprise. I haven't had a lot of time to devote to writing lately, I've been tied up. Get it, get it? HA! Right... anyway...

On another note, we are offering free shipping on our DVDs until the end of the year. Yeah!

That's what was so disappointing about Open Graves I mentioned earlier. Why would you put Eliza in a bikini, show her from a distance, and only from the waist up….all for a 2 or 3 second shot. If that's what they were going to do, they should have just shown her in the wet suit like she was in the following shot and not bothered with the previous at all. I mean why bother.

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New York Ripper…never even heard of that one prior to you bringing it up, and the subsequent mentions. Nor the other two titles you were contemplating for that matter.

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MAV wrote:~ Yeah LTL-I saw the new Lexxi AOH clip. I would probably go for it but it looks way too similar to "The Monster" at Chris' Corner…

That's the first thing I thought, but figured I'd let you know just in case. Although it does look like there's some hardcore in this one as I think Chris' was sim.

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Ralphus wrote:~ Every time I try to pick out a list of movies to order from PKF, there's always something new being added or some new sale.

Geeze dude….with the millions in annual royalties you earn from Bloodsucking Freaks you think you'd be able to make a decision and not worry about the pennies.

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Ed wrote:~It has become clear to me that I made this choice due to a complete lack of experience in the area. Being someone who prefers to watch but not participate in general, I have never whipped anyone.

I hear ya. I remember my first time tying up my girl years ago. It felt awkward as hell. She was totally into it though…so much in fact that after the first time, that's how we did it every time after…w/o exception.

But being young and green, every time we tried something new (new position), the awkwardness returned. It actually took a while before I could just let go and go with it.

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BTW, as far as the comments about your not wanting to participate, you're around enough to know I like to joke around. If not….PAY ATTENTION! ;-)

So 1, I was just kidding. And 2, when I posted, yours was the last post on the board. But by the time my post made it to the board, you and Ralphus had additional postings. In other words, I wasn't piling on. So Ralphus….K? o_O (that's the Festus look)

Jane wrote: At the moment I'm crafting my first review here, I won't tell you what the movie is, it's a surprise.

Cool…a Jane review! Be curious to see what she's into.

Plus:~ I haven't had a lot of time to devote to writing lately, I've been tied up. Get it, get it? HA! Right... anyway...

What? :-] (Confused look ;-)

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Ed: One of the nice things about this site is that it's all about fantasy. Here, it doesn't matter if you've never whipped anyone in real life. You can pretend you're lashing Gabriela's ass to your heart's content. I'm sure jhlipton hasn't strangled anyone in real life, but here he can play the fantasy. Ralphus can burn her with a blow torch. And LTL can bind her with barbed wire. No one gets hurt here.

If you're more of a voyeur than a hands-on participant, that cool. We're just playing along with the idea of torturing Gabriela. We're really lucky to have a such a willing and witty participant on this site. Now, where's that bullwhip ...

Nice!!! Thanks!

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Brutus: Oh, and thanks for the link to the Eliza pics. Wow! Killer body.

Wouldn't it be more fun if it was a "killed" body? Especially if it was tortured and raped before-hand?

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Ed: I don't want my first attempt to be too harsh, it just isn't who I am both as a GIMPer and as a man.

Each of us has his own set of lines that he won't cross. But for me, I'm a GIMPer in fantasy only, so there are few lines I won't cross. As a man, there are few lines I **WILL** cross.

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Brutus (again): We're just playing along with the idea of torturing Gabriela.

And Jane! Separately and together. I'm thinking a side-by-side suspension forcing each head into the other's crotch (Tight and painful rigging of course) just below my waist level. Whichever one isn't being raped gets it HARD on the ass. Now that's what I call "good times"!

Here's your answer.

Ok, lets shake things up a bit, with a personal bondage story. This is my personal favorite. My GF and I play bondage games every now and again, but we only did the pussy whipping thing once... although she says it was the most intense and satisfying sexual experience she ever had... and that she occasionally "pops one off" thinking about, and she's told a couple of our lifestyle friends about it, it's doubtful there will ever be a repeat.

I've shared this story on the board before, but its been awhile, and I left out some circumstantial details, so I'll repeat for those who missed it the first time.

In our basement is a cement platform that runs along one wall. There is a wooden shelving frame for clothes, but in the center, there are no shelves. There is a crossbar at the top for hanging clothes.

Well, she was there, folding clothes wearing a tank T and a thong when I came downstairs and started feeling her up. She was in the middle of laundry and wasn't in the mood. The basement is a place we like to play bondage games, and as it happened the handcuffs were nearby so I grabbed them and cuffed her hands behind her back (with only minor resistance on her part). She cussed at me a little about "not having time for this" etc., but I could tell she was only half serious. I pulled her thong off and lifted her onto the platform. My GF is 39, stands 5'4", weighs 128 lbs, has long strawberry blond hair, a wonderful smile, striking deep hazel eyes, big tits, and a firm round ass. I'm a very lucky man.

We kissed some, I tweaked her nipples, softly and then enough to make her wince, and fingered her pussy. I smiled as I grabbed the rope... and she smiled back. "What are you going to do with that. My hands are already cuffed behind me." Do I have to mention how turned on I was at this point?

Anyway, I wrapped the rope around her left ankle, and looped the other end on the crossbar overhead. "What are you doing?" I smiled and pulled on the rope... forcing her to lean back. I tied it off to the support beam. I repeated the same with her other leg.

The shelves against the wall are five feet apart, so her legs were spread pretty wide at this point. Her position didn't exactly look comfortable as the wall prevented her from laying all the way back, and was forced to support herself with her elbows. "Mmmm," She said playing along, "You can fuck me now, and there's nothing I can do about it."

"Oh, I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually." I grabbed the clothing shears and cut off her tank top. Oh man. She was pissed about this, as I had ruined her shirt. I smiled, grabbed two clothes pins and attached one to each nipple... She HATES nipple clamps. HATES THEM. It's something she likes doing to me, but never lets me reciprocate. I didn't ask, I just did it. "You're not exactly in a position to be criticizing me... now are you."

"Done, done!" She said. Done was our safe word. I ignored it. That was the first time I ever did that. When I didn't take the clothes pins off her nipples she cursed at me "Get 'em off you fucker!!"

She was really pissed now, I could tell. Sooo, "since she's already pissed off, why not take it as far as I could?" I thought to myself. I went to the play bag, picked up several dildos, teased her a bit with them... this calmed her a bit... but then I took out the whip.

Now, our whip is a nice "bondage play" whip. It's got a handle with two large balls on either end of it, and about 50 or so 16" long thin rubber strands as the whipping part. It's got some nice weight to it, and can really sting... but doesn't really leave welts... but it's effective and will redden the skin nicely. Now, she had me in a similar position weeks earlier, and she really took glee in laying into me. Of course I had a blast. :)

We had discussed a pussy whipping afterwards, but she said she didn't think she could take it. Now, when she saw the whip she knew exactly what I had in mind. "No! Done damn it... that's it! Let me fuckin' go! Please don't whip my pussy!" She was dead on serious about too.

I just smiled, and whacked the shit out her pussy with the whip. "Fuck!" She screamed rocking back and forth on her elbows. "Done! Done!"

"You want me to let you go?"

"Good, then address me as master and count out the lashes to your pussy. I'm giving you five." I whipped her again... and it was pretty hard.

She cussed at me again, "I'm not playing. I'm done you fuck, no let me down. That shit really hurts!"

"I'm not playing either. You will now take 10 lashes to your pussy, and they will all be hard. If you fail to count and thank me I will add 5 more."

WHACK!

"2, thank you master. Damn it, stop!"

"No, that was actually the first official one. Now we will have to start again."

Whack!

"1, thank you master. Look, I can't take 10. Please stop!"

Whack!

And so it went. She cooperated after that because she could tell I was serious. She was openly sobbing, tears rolling down her cheeks, by the 13th Whack. I had to repeat some because she screwed up the counting twice. When I was done her pussy was a swollen deep red, and her lips and clit was swollen as hell... and I knelt down and licked it and vibed her something fierce. She screamed LOUDLY, actually lifting her ass up off the platform! Anyway, as soon as she was about to cum I stood up and started fucking her hard. It didn't take long before she came hard... and right while she was in the middle of her climax I took the clothes pins off her nipples. She squirted as she came. I untied her legs, and as she sat up and kissed me deeply. I lifted her off the platform, and she immediately knelt down and gave me one of her stellar blow jobs and I came hard all over her face.

Which is why we've never done it again. When it was done, and she's kneeling there with cum in her mouth and on her face, she started laughing her ass off. When I uncuffed her she grabbed me and kissed me hard on the face forcing me to eat my own cum... which grossed me out to no end.

Can you imagine trying to actually duplicate that? It was the first time we did that, and I broke the rules badly... But the intensity of it was insane. I whipped her pussy till she was crying like a baby. I don't think she thinks she could take it like that again, and honestly, I don't think that I could stand to make her cry like that again. But, gawd damn it, we share one HELL of a memory.

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Than why have a safe word if your going to ignore it? You can question the victim if they really want to stop but,,,,

Lets just say Happy Thanksgiving

Dig in all...get plenty.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy turkey day fellow pervs!

Overall, a great effort (Jan has discovered lighting in most cases) ... they could have devised much more for Jane and continued it on as a series rather than ending abruptly with the grisly horrific ending (that grosses me out by the way ... for your poll). Up until that point, it was boner material ... the setups could have been shortened like mentioned in the forum.

I still drop into the GIMP by from time to time ... the Blakemore news was a nice surprise ... Ralphus ... what ever happened to your interview? ... Have you seen the new material? ... Is it really him? ... With his distinctive voice? ... This may be old news … but speaking of Whitman/Cole/Blakemore ... Alpha Blue Archives' Nazi Sexperiments includes some rare 8mm transfers including the lost HOM classic The Collaborator Pt2 (never transferred for Bondage Classics … only Pt1) and a few RDF loops ... but they tend to cut there between different releases ... a Cole euro loop was only half there.

Finally got Agent X and don't know if it was pointed out in the forum ... but there is a blooper at the ~1:14:52 mark where Jane's hand slips out of the left cuff and she is holding onto it unsecured (sent Ralphus the screen cap).

Very sharp eyes there. You made me pop in my DVD copy to take a look. In the entire whipping sequence, it's only visible in that shot, but yep, she's definitely hanging on to the cuff rather than secured to it. I saw the film twice but never caught it. What can I say? All the more reason for everyone to buy the movie and see if you can spot it for yourself.

Regarding the ending, like I stated in my review, the nailing didn't bother me in spite of the fact I don't like gore. In fact, Jane was already pretty bloody at that point anyway so I didn't mind a bit of extra blood. But she was also doing some great agonized screaming and seemed to genuinely be in pain, so it turned me on. Obviously, YMMV.

...the Blakemore news was a nice surprise ... Ralphus ... what ever happened to your interview? ... Have you seen the new material? ... Is it really him? ... With his distinctive voice?

It's most assuredly him, and I got the interview and then some. In fact, I spent part of my Thanksgiving yesterday working some more on transcribing it for the forum. It's a lengthy process and I don't have time to work on it all the time, but I'm nearly at the halfway point now. You guys are going to love it...it's immensely interesting and Blakemore is a fascinating guy.

BTW, we've had more than just the one conversation. You could say Blakemore and I have developed into buddies...he calls me up every weekend just to chat. In fact, he called me at home yesterday to see how my Thanksgiving was. He also asked me for the website URL so he could check it out online at a friend's house.

Remember, the whole comeback thing with Blakemore actually started because of this website. An acquaintance of his read Dan Hawke's posting here and told him about it, which set the whole thing in motion. Who knows? Maybe sometime in the future, Blakemore might even grace this forum with a post or two. I haven't asked him but I could definitely see it happening.

Anyone taking advantage of Black Friday today? No jhlipton that means taking advantage of the sales….not these ;-)

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A Canadian wrote: ~ Apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Aside from your answer for the opportunity of a historical reenactment in another nice offering from Jane & Red Feline, you forgot to mention their contribution of hot, big-titted Italian girls.

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I was going to wait till Jane posted her (first) review, but I figured, what are the chances that she would do a review of the same one I have. Plus this is a older one so that would make it even more unlikely.

MGM Midnight Movie double feature review of Deranged/Motel Hell.

Deranged/Motel Hell

Farmer Vincent owns a motel off the beaten path. As a side business he also sells smoked meats. Some folks say, the finest they've ever tasted. Framer Vincent's secret to these delectable delicacies? Well, he starts off with only the finest cuts of pork meat, mix in some secret spices, then smoke them to perfection,….oh, and one last special secret ingredient, which he obtains from booby-traps set for weary travelers. After he cuts their vocal cords (as they make gross gurgling sounds), he plants them in the ground and harvests them when ready. “Because it takes all kinds of critters, to make Farmer Vincent's Fritters.”

There are a couple of mild Gimp moments here. The first has Elaine Joyce briefly hog-tied in a black bodysuit. She looks pretty good in it too. Who'd have thunk that she'd make such a tasty treat…"Cause meat is meat, and man's gotta eat.”

Then at the end there is a scene reminiscent of the old sawmill peril scenarios, in which a victim is tied to a table and slowly moves towards a meat-cutting machine (all while Framer Vincent wears a pig's head during the climactic fight scene).

Entertainment wise: Mildly entertaining in a purposely cheesy way. Example of which is where Farmer Vincent make his dying confession to his brother (who's a cop), "My meats….had…..as ingredients……….preservatives", and dies. Plus….in what I suspect might be a cameo appearance by Ralphus' dad, Wolfman Jack plays a preacher. Grade C

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Deranged is about Ed Gein, whose true story has inspired classics like Psycho, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Silence of the Lambs, not to mention countless lesser entrees. In this movie they choose to change the names however and Ed Gein has become Ezra Cobb.

After tending to his ill mother for 12 years, she finally passes, leaving Ezra alone and bewildered. He's isolated and not coping well as he begins to hear his mother's voice telling him to come and get her. It's been a year since the burial though and his mother hasn't held up well, so Ezra gets it in his head to repair his mom by replacing body parts with fresher one's he's robbed form graves.

Having had repaired his mom to a certain extent, Ezra now sets out to find companionship. His attempts at female partnership do not end well as he hears his moms voice telling him all women are sluts, or meeting the family (corpses) goes less than stellar.

Gimp wise there is a couple of scenes of interest here. The first, is where a thirty-something waitress (played by Micki Moore) is kidnapped. She's stripped to bra and panties and has her wrists and ankles tied while in a closet. Later she is let out and tied to a chair as she meets the family.

The other is where Sally (played by Pat Orr) is strung up naked upside-down. The down side to this scene is that she is already dead when this happens. This for me is still a pretty good scene as Ms. Orr looks awesome hanging upside-down. A perfect set of tits...until the blood starts covering them. So she's dead…can't have everything.

Entertainment wise: Not all too bad, but not very scary either. The movie is done in an almost biographical manner as there are segments when the narrator appears on screen, almost like in a stage play. This is probably the most accurate depiction of Ed Gein's life too, as for the most part he was mainly a grave robber. The same holds true here as he only murders 3 victims (Ed only killed 2 if I remember right). Most accurate not only in story but casting as well as the Ed Gein/Ezra Cobb character is portrayed as a mild-mannered and timid character. Not the big, brutish monsters I've seen portray him in other films.

Not bad, not good…middle of the road. More educational than entertaining as we learn the lesson of "The wages of sin is Gonorrhea, Syphilis, and Death." Grade C

Gimp value: Motel Hell really didn't have any major moments to speak of, although I must say that Elaine Joyce looked surprisingly good hog-tied while in that black bodysuit. Very short segment however.