My point being, have you ever seen a movie like this, uncensored, in a theatre in the US since the '90's? Or even on a US version DVD? I saw Ma Mère in the cinema in France and I thought it was really quite risqué. JJ bought me the DVD one Christmas and I was so excited for him to see it...and we were almost at the first good part...and...and...WTF? The scenes aren't there. I believe censorship is in such bad taste. It's my right to be corrupted. Isn't that in the Constitution somewhere? I've never been able to find even an uncensored version of Eyes Wide Shut in the US. Shame on the Puritans.

The Bondage scenes in Romance are a little lame, I'll give you that, but I can't seem to get over my own extrapolation of the scenes where I replace myself with the young woman and François Berléand ties me up. And does other nasty things to me. Of course, that's not in the movie. That's in a special place in my head.

My disappointment with mainstream movies and censorship is one of the reasons I make movies with lots of the "good stuff" in them.

Sadly, Ralphus failed to apply the left one correctly and it falls off as the completely nude young lady convulses quite attractively on the torture table.

Ah, fine memories.

Ralphus, I personally love the Rack Scene Data Base, and the Whipping Scene Data Base... the others can go, but those are classics.

I would be interested to know what was cut from the version of Demonlover I watched. It was a French language version, but for all I know they are all French language versions but with subtitles, although I didn't get subtitles either. Humphf. I vaguely seem to recall when the movie first came out hearing that it was disappointing from a bizarre sex and violence viewpoint. But oh well.

Sadly, I wouldn't want to see a hot GIMP movie on the big screen in the US, censored or uncensored. The majority of the members of this forum excepted, I'm not sure I would want to be in the same theater with the audience it would attract. It isn't that I have a low opinion of GIMPers, I just have a low opinion of most people, of which GIMPers are a notable subset.

The VCR and DVD, and now downloadable content, rank right up there with sliced bread and canned beer as significant advances in civilization that I would hate to live without. In my opinion. My ability to enjoy GIMP movies in the privacy of my own home with persons of my choosing is directly proportional to the amount of enjoyment I derive from the experience.

However, I still want to be able to get my GIMP uncensored and decide for myself whether or not to watch it. My tastes have very probably moved beyond eclectic, but certainly well past anything available in mainstream movies. They exist only to disappoint me. *sigh*

So I am happy that you make movies with lots of "good stuff" in them. And that you have a special place in your head where Francois Berleand does nasty things to you. That's something else I'll have to look for.

My crystal ball thinks there may be a review in Jane's future.

Damn, I get tied of this censorship! What's the point of restoring a film for DVD if the VHS version was the only way to see it uncut? Maybe I should be buying up old VHS tapes and transferring them to DVD myself.

I hear you Ralphus. I didn't mention this in my review of Savage Weekend, but the DVD version also deleted a sex scene involving the Caitlyn O'Heaney character. I can see why it might have been censored--the original may have had an NC-17 rating because of it. Problem is, without that scene (in which her character criticizes her partner's "technique") nothing that follows makes any sense with regard to what happens to her character.

In a similar vein, I just caught the DVD version of Scream of the Demon Lover, AKA Blood Castle in the Torture Rack database. Naturally, they edited out the two rack scenes! Nothing in the rest of the movie makes sense without those rack scenes.

Is there some movement we can join to put a stop to these atrocities?

Jane, I would appreciate it if you could forward some viewer feedback to Jan Jac for me. I am not currently a member and haven't ordered any of Red Feline Picture's DVDs yet. However, I have taken the time to watch most of the available trailers to get some sense of what RFPIX content is like. I have to say I haven't liked a lot of what I have seen. Although I don't like bloody scenes in GIMP material, that isn't the thing that bothers me. I am grateful that there are videos available with little or no blood in them.

What bothers me the most is scenes showing the girl being nailed onto a large wooden beam. Scenes like that remind me too much of how cruel humanity has been in historical times and can still be on rare occasions today. It is my opinion that this sort of cruelty has no place in entertainment material of any kind, whether mainstream or adult. Could you suggest to JJ that there be less nailing and more securing with strong rope, cord, etc?

Too bad. It would be fun to see the women snagged on sharp objects such that their clothing is more off than on, then snagged through the back so they die with their breasts pushed up. [sigh]

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Canadian: Ebert's a total weinie when it comes to these types of movies so I can only imagine what he said. I sure remember how upset he was in his review of I Spit on Your Grave ('spoiler' alert: he didn't like it).

In fairness to Ebert, he doesn't get squicked out by exploitive flims (heck, he got his start working with Russ Meyers). But violence toward women is a Real World Problem, and there are those who are going to view these films as a Good Idea.

It's also a good idea to know what to avoid on date night. [BEG]

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John Galt: The majority of the members of this forum excepted, I'm not sure I would want to be in the same theater with the audience it would attract.

Exactly. And that was the point of the S&E special.

There is a DVD version which CLAIMS to be uncut. Follow the URL to find out about it.

Wish I had known that before. It pays to do some research.

In fairness to Ebert, he doesn't get squicked out by exploitive flims (heck, he got his start working with Russ Meyers). But violence toward women is a Real World Problem, and there are those who are going to view these films as a Good Idea.

Well, OK ... except Roger Ebert gave four stars to the Oliver Stone movie, Natural Born Killers, a violent film that some real-life criminals claim provoked their awful behavior. Ask some criminals and they'll say that movie had more influence on them than a Marilyn Manson or 50 Cent CD. It certainly had a bigger audience than Bloodsucking Freaks.

I have no time for such foolishness. People who commit crimes are responsible for their actions and should be convicted for their actions, with no excuses allowed. If Oliver Stone has that much influence on your behavior, get professional help and please don't watch his movies.

And if Roger Ebert is using cases of real-life crime to justify his wussy take on GIMP movies, shame on him.

Having said that, it's probably unfair for us to debate Ebert's motives when we don't really know his motives. Perhaps Ralphus can invite Ebert to join our discussion (let's just hope Ebert doesn't remember the name 'Ralphus' from that movie he hated so much).

What bothers me the most is scenes showing the girl being nailed onto a large wooden beam. Scenes like that remind me too much of how cruel humanity has been in historical times and can still be on rare occasions today. It is my opinion that this sort of cruelty has no place in entertainment material of any kind, whether mainstream or adult.

Whoa, quite a challenging statement there, Ed. So I suppose you would have a problem with a film like The Passion of the Christ, right? I never got around to seeing that film, but I would imagine there was probably a similar scene where they nailed Christ to the cross, as well as an abundance of realistic whipping (and quite gruesome, too, from what I heard). How about films about medieval times where they tortured and burned innocent women accused of witchcraft? Off limits, too? After all, those films are based on fact. Real women actually suffered and died, so should we not show depictions of what they went through?

Listen to yourself, dude. I'm no fan of nailing, nor even a fan of a lot of blood, but do you really feel that way? Maybe some of the violence depicted in mainstream or bondage entertainment films actually happened to real-life victims, but what can we do about it now? Enjoying realistic depictions of suffering shouldn't affect the way you feel about watching a fictional film, unless the guilt you feel causes you to think otherwise.

We had a variation of this question a few years ago but with new readers and new posters, it might be interesting to bring it up again. Let's make it official.

GIMP POLL:
Is it okay to enjoy films based on real-life atrocities? Or does that fact that they were based on real-life events make you too uneasy to get into the subject matter?

Let's see what others have to say. Even if you've given your opinions on this one before, tell us what you think and let's see if the board as a whole feels differently than last time. Everybody vote.

As for the real life based stuff, I'd say it's definitely time dependent. Meaning while setting in medieval times with witch burnings etc are ok in my book, stuff dealing with more recently documented crimes (say anything from the 1950s onward) is a little more unsettling. Not really sure why that is though. Maybe because I can in some way imagine what it must be like and attach myself more to a more modern victim (assuming again it DID really happen) than I can an ancient one.

I'll go right ahead and answer your questions, Ralphus. I was raised in an environment where respect for women is more or less a mandatory part of life. Also, growing up I have read and heard a lot in my school years about the atrocities committed by people in the past, whether it be the nailing of Christ to the cross by the Romans to the burning of women who were accused of witchcraft during the Salem witch trials. No offense intended towards anyone, but now in my adulthood these experiences have left me with a sense that humanity as a species is a savage blood thirsty one.

I abhor depictions of these types of cruelty whether they be fictional or based on historical events. Reality has tainted my perceptions in a way that causes me to see such descriptions as examples of how much of a bloodthirsty species we humans are, as examples of humanity’s hatred of itself. I don't mean to go all religious on anyone, but life has left me with a sense that judgment day will come by the hand of man and not the hand of God.

As for depictions of these types of atrocities, whether fictional or based on history. I don't want to see them and will tend to shy away from any entertainment material that has them. It isn't like I don't want JJ to use nailing in his work, but I would prefer that there be more alternative binding methods used. It really doesn't make much of a difference to me whether Jan Jac uses depictions of nailing or not. If I don't like what is shown in the trailers, I won't consider buying a membership with his site.

Today's cover picture is a BATS Manipulation from the Dirty Old NET.

This is an inside joke folks that anyone that is a member of a Yahoo or Google group will know. For some reason anyone that does a BATS scene just can't wait to see someone repost their work so they can complain. I think that is one of the reasons that you don't see more than a very small handful of artists doing this anymore.

Can you think of any worse type of fate than after you are tortured, terrorized and raped and buggered you're then burned alive? If they liked you they would either strangle you to death or just unconscious. If they didn't like you they would build a smaller fire or pull it away from you till you burn slowly and then stoke it up to turn your body into ashes.

Today picture is done by Oberon who in my mind is and has been one of the Masters of this type art.

In a cost cutting venture the young ladies of the house got out of school even earlier than normal this year so for the most part I will have to remain a Gimper suffering withdrawal pains all summer long. As luck would have it they are all out of town this day and I stumble into a poll question and have some time to respond.

We did have a similar question some time back. My response would be exactly the same now as it was then. There is no problem whatsoever with enjoying a film fantasy scene regardless of whatever historic context it is derived from. Guilt is confined to the perpetrator although such psychos and sociopaths lack any form of conscience and never experience that thing called guilt. As I had no part in whatever atrocity we talk about then it follows that I can enjoy the torment without any pangs. No personal involvement equals no responsibility equals no guilt. We all know the witch trials were real yet we enjoy "Mark of the Devil". We all know the depredations of the Nazi's were real and we revel in the excesses of "Ilsa". And we know heinous serial killers abound yet are aroused by the acts of a Glatman, Wilder or Brudos.

Ed is absolutely right - we are a particularly blood thirsty species - always have been, always will be and that is simply the harsh reality - but we Gimpers take part only as detached spectators, not perpetrators - perhaps that gives us moral standing in the matter :-)

Anyway, thanks for listening to my long winded response - it is so seldom I get to post in the summer I need to take advantage of those moments.

Stay Well All

That said, in my opinion, yes, it is okay to enjoy films based on real-life atrocities, but personally I usually do not. My preference in this instance is not limited to GIMP movies. I avoid mainstream movies that deal with child abuse, child kidnapping, religious zealotry, prejudice, and similar real-life themes that I consider abhorrent. They remind me too much of humankind's inhumanity toward his and/or her fellow humans, which needlessly reinforces my misanthropy, which frankly needs no reinforcement. Plus, there's no titillation factor, or anything to appeal to my twisted prurient interests. I like my sex, nudity and violence--preferably all in the same scene--but with a clean, well-groomed and impeccably hot looking victim, which is fantastically unrealistic but vastly more enjoyable.

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It is probably me, but I have not been overly impressed lately with the look of the models on the sites I frequent. Too many tattoos, too much cosmetic surgery, too hard and, umm, "experienced" looking. I like young and cute and innocent and while the current crop aren't hideous skanks, the latest batch of models just haven't been turning my crank. Oh well. I did finally find a reasonably attractive model on the Powershotz site, so I will review a couple of her video clips for the forum.

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A Candy Anal Double Feature: Candy - Plugged and Forced to Suck and Candy - Academy Award Ass (Powershotz, 2009)

Candy is young and comes close to cute, but for some reason misses on innocent. But she is easy on the eyes. She has short blondish hair, and a slender, natural, and--as far as I can tell--tattoo-free body. That is always a plus.

The first video I watched, Candy - Plugged and Forced to Suck, begins with Candy being led into the room, completely naked but also completely unfettered, and made to climb up on a dining room-sized table on her hands and knees. She is kind of cleave-gagged. There is a white cloth in her mouth and being held behind her back by her masked tormentor. He uses it to pull her head up and back occasionally.

The camera spends a lot of time giving us long and unobstructed views of her ass and her shaved pussy. She really has a terrific body. She is slapped and spanked and told constantly to "hard arch" her back. I got tired of hearing that command, but it is a ubiquitous element of the Powershotz audio repertoire.

The cleave gag is tied and we subtly fade into the future, where the table is now covered with a rug, Candy's head is resting on a throw pillow, and her wrists are duct-taped together behind her back. That's more like it.

Vaseline is applied to Candy's asshole. We get a nice view of Candy from the rear as her tormentor inserts his finger into her ass. Next comes the glass butt plug, and we watch for several seconds as it is pushed in, but Candy cries out and rears up and we get a sudden jump to her head being forced back down but alas that's it for the butt plug. The scene description indicated that Candy could not take it and the scene progressed with no more anal play.

*deep sigh of disappointment*

More spanking. A crotch rope is applied and used to bind her ankles together. Candy does not look like she is having much fun. She is repositioned on her side. The cleave gag is removed and she is forced to suck the stand-in plastic cock that is employed when the model's boyfriend isn't involved in the shoot. (The "stunt cock," as it were.) She gags a few times as the masked man holds her head and forces it back and forth. There's lots of coughing and drooling.

Candy is repositioned on her stomach and ordered to "struggle!" which she does weakly. She also manages to look perturbed, which is an unusual emotional choice. But she looks great trussed up and naked. Fade to black.

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The next video, Candy - Academy Award Ass, begins with Candy on the standard Powershotz stool, on her hands and knees, with her wrists tied together in front and her ankles bound together in back. She is completely naked and is gagged with a blue ballgag. She looks very nice in that position.

Her masked tormentor smacks her butt, hand gags her, arm chokes her, and straps a leather belt around her throat for some future choking. She is also encouraged to arch her back hard on numerous occasions.

The masked man squirts oil on her back and rubs it in, leaving her supple young body glistening on her ass and back. He runs his hand down between her legs and massages her pussy. And even though a split screen is used to show her expression and her backside at the same time, it is difficult to tell exactly what he is doing most of the time. He might just be stroking her, but every once in a while I think he slides one or more fingers into her ass, and also his thumb a few times. Maybe her pussy as well. Sadly, we don't get any close-ups this early on.

Candy is asked if she wants the ballgag removed and she grunts in the affirmative. The ballgag is removed.

At this point I am reasonably sure fingers are penetrating her ass. Her expression is one of discomfort, and she cries out "no" an awful lot. I was personally kind of annoyed at her cries of "no," because it sounded like she meant "no" but surely she had a safe word she should have used instead. The description mentioned that filming was stopped and started a few times because they weren't sure what she meant.

We finally get some close-ups of finger penetration. Hard breathing, groaning, grunting and expressions of discomfort accompany the anal violation. Candy also did a lot of throat clearing and her feet danced around quite a bit, so I was left with the impression that she was being pushed to her limits.

More Vaseline lubricant is applied to her anus and Candy squirms, then cries out as a thumb penetrates her. She comes close to crying and shakes her head and makes "uh-uh" sounds. Once again, it sounds like she's trying to stop him but that's what safe words are for.

Out comes the long glass rod. The glass rod penetrates Candy vaginally, which was still too much for her, by all appearances, and she really made noise when he pulled it out quickly. The rod is then positioned for anal penetration and Candy is wearing an expression of expectant anxiety, if not dread.

The rod doesn't get too far in before she cries out "no, no, no," and out it comes. It is reversed and penetration with the smaller end is attempted. But first, it looks like two fingers are used to maybe stretch her out a bit, which elicits another yowl of "no" and the beginning of the word "stop," I think, before a sudden camera cut which indicates that action did, indeed, stop at that point. At that point also I am shouting at my PC monitor: "Use the fucking safe word, bitch! That's what it's for!" But she's not hearing me.

After the cut, a tear is evident on Candy's stress-reddened cheek. But she's hanging in there. More lubricant is applied. And lo and behold, the bulb on the end of the glass rod makes it inside. Candy is not a happy camper, and puts up with it for maybe a minute and a half (although there is a cut in there), including some fucking where it looks like she takes most of the length inside her.

At this point, sadly, a couple of things go wonky. First of all, she is told for the umpteenth time to arch her back and she whines in an exasperated tone "I AM!" to which I could relate. Then, the leg of a chair comes floating into frame, bounces around a bit, then leaves again. WTF.

The glass rod is withdrawn, to which Candy reacts in pain and/or discomfort. It is inserted once again into her vagina, to which to responds with a whiny "no, no, no." She is almost crying at this point. The larger end of the glass rod is once again pressed into her ass. She cries out "no, no, no" and even "God. Fucking. Dammit. No." It sounds like she is crying at this point, protesting vociferously even as he fingers her. She cries out, "no," then "stop," then "no" again, then struggles and says "okay okay okay," which I guess might be construed as a substitute for using the safe word.

Her head is pushed down, her crotch is stroked a few more times, her ass is slapped, then the scene abruptly ends.

I will admit that the last part of this video was exceptionally intense, but I found myself annoyed that Candy did not seem to grasp the concept of The Safe Word and How to Use It. Oddly enough, I was uncomfortable watching it, and I blame Candy.

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SUMMARY: The first video, Candy - Plugged and Forced to Suck, was kind of a disappointment for me personally because it was primarily forced plastic cock sucking. Admittedly, it showed off Candy's superb young body exceptionally well. But it seemed like the bondage (duct tape and crotchrope) was an afterthought, and the anal work was abruptly aborted. I rate this 12-minute video a C-. You can purchase and download this video here. There is also a photo montage of images from the video.

The second video, Candy - Academy Award Ass, was awesome in its way. As I indicated, I felt a little uncomfortable watching it because Candy didn't use the safe word when she probably should have. If she was actually acting, then I will have to give her an Academy Award for believability. However, I don't think she was. I would have gotten a lot more enjoyment out of the video if she had pushed her limits as far as she could and then used the safe word. It is hard to describe my response except to say I enjoy watching models enduring pain and suffering (or acting the part), but not actually being hurt and not having the sense to call it off. However, if you are not so conflicted, then this video will probably be prime whacking material. Candy is a hot young thing with a slender and supple tattoo-free body and she is feeling the pain in this video. I rate this 19-1/2 minute video a solid B+. This video clip is available for purchase and download here. There is also a photo montage of images from the video.

I like my sex, nudity and violence--preferably all in the same scene--but with a clean, well-groomed and impeccably hot looking victim, which is fantastically unrealistic but vastly more enjoyable.

I'm willing to make exceptions for victims who are sweaty and have their hair mussed up from the struggle. But I have to agree with Ralphus. In theory, there is no depiction of violence that does not in some way reflect the real-life experience of someone, at some time and place, in the history of humankind (possible exceptions might be movies about alien abductions and stuffed-animal rape). But as others have pointed out, some factors might make us more uneasy watching, such as religiously-held symbolism (Ed) and the currency of the actual event (Dr. Yuya). I don't have a problem with these. My feeling is that the erotic depiction of a scene creates some personal distance from the real event. As someone who often watches the Military History Channel, I can tell you that there are much more appalling depictions of real-life human atrocities than the stuff that we talk about here. Anyway, I'm less about the violence and more into the display of female flesh in a vulnerable position with that look in her eyes. In fact, too much gore is a turn-off for me.

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One area that I do feel squeamish about is violence against children. That's why I've avoided "The Girl in the Basement". But I understand that the film is well-done, and I'm not being judgmental. I'm just not sure I could sit through it.

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Whenever you see the "based on actual events" tag applied to a film or TV presentation, you can bet that the presenter is probably going to play around with the facts, unless it's a documentary or history lesson. This is probably nowhere more evident than in the Nazi exploitation genre. I can watch these flicks without guilt, because although they touch on the truth, they are really outrageous fantasies. Female camp inmates who all look like supermodels? Dyanne Thorne? lmfao

Speaking of which, I'm working on a review of "SS Hell Pack Triple Feature" and hope to submit that soon.

In answer to the poll and to defend Red Feline a bit: The idea behind Red Feline is: "The performance of the body in pain.". Many of the concepts we use draw upon historical events and religion. And some of our ideas are just ideas. For instance, CruxBride. The concept, hatched by JJ and Gabrielle, is one of a woman who willingly goes into a scenario in which she will be tied up, tortured, etc. This fantasy involves no blood or nails. It is the narcissistic fantasy of a woman pushed beyond even her limits.

Other concepts we use that involve blood draw on many sources; martyrdom, Saint Plays written and performed by nuns in the 12th century, poems written in the 4th century, paintings by Hieronymous Bosch and Caravaggio.

Well, you say, that's all well and good, but where's the sex, the entertainment? All you're talking about is Art.

Religious fervor...ecstasy. The French call the orgasm "the little death". As humans we are savage. In a modern world we control our savagery by watching others act out our fantasies. I physically act out my fantasies in a fantasy-oriented atmosphere. If I didn't, I would most likely be a very unhappy person.

I hate to get all post-post-modern, but fantasy, in particular sexual fantasy, is incredibly important in the semi-utopian violence-free society we are all striving for. When violence is only depicted in Art, and not in life, we will all feel much freer.

What turns one on is a very personal, individual thing. The boundaries we impose on art only serve to suppress/oppress our savagery rather than express it as a healthy fantasy.

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YikYakker: Yes, well, sweaty and disheveled are definitely desirable traits in a hot young victim. As long as she starts out clean.

For example there is for some years now on the net, a series of photographs depicting a woman being tortured by soldiers in Timor. I love fantasizing about these pictures, but I feel guilty suspecting that they are scenes of a torture that actually took place in real life.

So what can I say? My kink pushes me to say YES the more realistic, the better, but my conscience bothers me a bit.

So post everything and let us deal with it with our confessor :)

However, I think we must all realise that the events portrayed in a film are not real - it's just a bunch of actors being paid for doing these scenes.

Indeed it is. At the same time, we must also realize that the actors, director and crew will - if they want to create effective entertainment - try their hardest to convince us that it is real. Realistic settings, good acting that "sells" the scene, and well-crafted special effects are some of the means they use to draw us in. Another is to say that it is "based on actual events."

That's the artistic tension between the entertainers and the entertained. To what degree does the audience become engaged in, or keep their distance from, what happens on the screen?

There has been violence in every facet of human history. Survival of the species is predicated on violence if needed and is built into the DNA of the male of all species, and some female as well. It is little wonder then that fantasy will encompass the successful end of that violence. So for that guy that is four foot two inches tall and weighs eighty nine pounds, a fantasy of him having a violent struggle over a larger opponent and winning is not a surprise no matter how unlikely. Entertainment is an escape from reality, and sex and violence are quite entertaining. Having seen a movie about rape and torture and enjoying it on some esoteric level, does not mean I would then do the same in a real world setting. Quite the contrary, it is most likely that by diverting these built in male drives via such entertainment or fantasy it prevents such from happening. Just my opinion.

And just because one person is repulsed by the idea of violence does not give him/her the right to deprive everyone from having access to such mediums. Life is about choice, and if I choose to enjoy these things, I may, and if you prefer not to, that is your right. Keep the GIMP rocking!

Jack

Crucifixion? Mostly criminals and mostly male. Hanging? Women in England were burned at the stake, to prevent the temptations of the hanged body being "available" to men.

It would be ideal to not harbor fantasies of anything but the most idealized, normalized sexual totems, however that simply isn't the true nature of sexuality. I doubt anyone here has chosen any of these fantasies, but have rather been chosen by their fantasies.

If I could choose my porn, I would watch Rachael Ray and imagine taking her with her clothes on; and if you think about it, even that's disturbingly kinky.

First, movies convey the line between fantasy/reality. Inherent in film is that it is a fantasy and not real at all. Even if accurate, it's the telling of the story and not the story itself.

Can a two-hour film really be representative of say, Ted Bundy or the Hillside Stranglers? Those guys went on for months and years.

We all understand that humanity is capable of great feats of kindness and achievement, and yet still capable of producing hideous acts of the worst kind.

Do I believe in abusing another human? No. Do I enjoy watching it? Yes. As long as I can understand the difference between film and rality, I will always hope that justice is served in things nonconsenual. Consensual abuse can be beautiful!

Jane- you had mentioned that red feline was working on putting some of the film stuff on the site for download. Is this still in the works? I can download but cannot order a DVD for delivery.

In real life women are usually only sexy when they want to be - when they decide to turn it on. A glimpse of cleavage is rarely attractive unless you get the idea that the woman wanted you to see it. Then it is suddenly fabulous.

I watched a film from the Hunt series over the weekend and for me it was a flop. The film concentrated on the way the women die and how they are butchered. It contains a fair amount of nudity but very little erotic behaviour.

I know the Hunt is not based on real events but all this is a way of saying that I think it unlikely that any story that accurately recreates a real life story is going to be attractive to me. If the women play it for real, then there will be little sexiness. If the women camp it up, then it is not an accurate recreation and it is cruel/unfair/slanderous to suggest it is based on reality.

This mostly applies to recent crimes and much less to historical stories where we really are making most of it up anyway.

Oh - and I like an element of comedy in it- so I am way out of line here.

Mr. Bush - Yes, we will be deploying a system for rentals and downloads for many of our titles. When I have an idea when it will be up I'll holler.

UKSteve - I love hearing about how men see the nature of female sexuality, so interesting! And I agree; little bit of camp can often serve to better a movie of this genre.

For reasons I cannot explain, I am more disturbed by movies about recent events, than I am by movies about events further back in history. Movies about recent serial killers, such as Ted Bundy and the Hillside Strangler, are harder to watch than events from a more distant time, such as Jack the Ripper or the Salem Witch Trials. Why I should be more upset by movies about recent events is not immediately obvious to me. After all, a serial killer is a serial killer regardless of the century in which he lived.

Even if serial killers are not involved, I have just as tough a time watching movies about real-life abused and murdered women. I could not sleep for a week after watching "Looking for Mr. Goodbar," inspired by the real-life, brutal murder of a young schoolteacher. I could not make it through Jack Ketchum's "The Girl Next Door," based on the true story of a teenage girl who was abused and eventually murdered by her stepmother. Although these movies contain some exciting elements, such as submission and bondage, they also contain a depressing element, the big downer, death.

Movies about fantasy kidnapping, bondage, and torment of women turn me on, but movies about real-life atrocities against women generally make me squeamish. When movies cross the line from fantasy peril to real brutality and death, they lose their eroticism completely.

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Yikyakker: Drop me an e-mail when you get a chance. I have a question to ask you.

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John Galt: It's kind of gotten buried in a sea of poll question responses, but thanks for reviewing the 2 Powershotz clips for the forum. It's good to see you back doing what you do best. Candy is easy on the eyes, to be sure. Good to see there's at least one more girl doing bondage who hasn't marked up her body with tattoos. Sounds like more of the same from Powershotz, more anal play, dildo sucking and split screen productions. I'll give Steve credit, though. He makes the kind of movies that he wants to see.

I split your double review into 2 separate review pages to make them easier to access and not as lengthy to read. The direct links are:

http://ralphus.net/reviews/powershotz/pow_candyplugged.htm and http://ralphus.net/reviews/powershotz/pow_candyacademy.htm

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Badger wrote:

I watched "Highwaymen" last evening. And though Rhona Mitra was as ravishing as ever, there was zero ravishing and barely even an implication of any, and no bondage other than about 15 seconds of handcuffs.

I'm with you, Badger. Elkcreek's contention that she spends "lots of the movie tied up and in some cases with just a bra and panties" wasn't quite true, was it? I think that's more wishful thinking on his part, or what Brian's Page refers to as "Scene Creep", which is when you mis-remember a scene, usually improving on it in your mind, until you look again and discover it really wasn't as good as you recall. Still, she looked damn good, so it was worth checking out.

That was kind of a creepy scene where the two hotties (Rhona and Andrea Roth) are in the car being stalked by the faceless driver along a lonely street, wasn't it? Too bad not much came of it, but it definitely had potential. I really wish more GIMP scenes gave us a suspenseful buildup before the actual attack.

Guess that's why I love Paris..?

For me, it has to do with how close-to-home it is. Something recent, and local, is going to feel more "wrong" than something older, or further away. How likely am I to know the victim(s) or their families? I think. But I'm not sure.

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Jane von Detlefson: I hate to get all post-post-modern, but fantasy, in particular sexual fantasy, is incredibly important in the semi-utopian violence-free society we are all striving for. When violence is only depicted in Art, and not in life, we will all feel much freer.

Woot woot! (For those of you not into fanzines of the 80s, that means "I agree most enthusiasticly!")

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The number one thing wrong with today's picture (see URL) is that we're not getting a "kid's eye" view!

For me, it has to do with how close-to-home it is. Something recent, and local, is going to feel more "wrong" than something older, or further away. How likely am I to know the victim(s) or their families?

Yeah, that's where my head is, too.

I'll go back to the examples I used the last time this question came up. As I said at the time, I felt very uncomfortable going to see the movie Karla, about Canadian school girl killers Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo, because that case was so well publicized in central Canada. We learned so much about the victims, their families, the criminals and their families, etc., that it almost felt like you really knew them. So it was difficult to approach a film about the subject thinking it could in any way be erotic, even if it was just actors on screen.

By contrast, I really enjoy the Jodie Foster rape scene in The Accused, even though that scene is loosely based on a true crime. The difference, I believe, is that I know next to nothing about the real case so I had no real emotional engagement in it.

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weewilly wrote:

I could not make it through Jack Ketchum's "The Girl Next Door," based on the true story of a teenage girl who was abused and eventually murdered by her stepmother. Although these movies contain some exciting elements, such as submission and bondage, they also contain a depressing element, the big downer, death.

I made it to the gruesome end of The Girl Next Door and I'm in full agreement here. That movie was powerful and effective -- it was so heartbreaking I couldn't possibly enjoy it as erotica.

The movie often is brought up here when people talk about real-life subjects that make them so uncomfortable that they can't even enjoy a film as erotica, as our Canadian friend pointed out. Indeed, we have 2 wildly diverging reviews of the film in our Reviews section, one by Vince, who saw the film in the theatre with a crowd of people and was repelled by the film: The Girl Next Door by Vince

And then there's my take on the film, which I bought the first day it came out on DVD: The Girl Next Door by Ralphus. I was a big fan of the book and greatly admired the film, giving it 2 coveted Ralphus Awards in our annual year-end wrap-ups. But even I will admit it's pretty grim stuff, and definitely not a "fun" movie to sit back and enjoy. Ironically, the GIMP aspects would been greatly improved had they gone over the edge and actually made it exploitative, but it was toned down so much that the final result was more sad than arousing.

You can read both our reviews and make up your mind who's right, then check the film out on DVD (I saw it for 6 bucks at Best Boy recently), or better yet, track down Ketchum's book for some really engrossing stuff.

As I recall, I think I originally answered it didn't matter but changed my mind after I saw 'Girl Next Door" in a limited theatrical release.

My feeling now is I don't think I could enjoy a movie with torture scenes if it's based on real life. I would keep thinking what the actual living person must have gone through.

If it's fiction I could enjoy it more simply because it's not real otherwise I couldn't help empathizing with the person.

By the way, Ralphus, you rock. You allow guys like us a forum to express beliefs and opinions that we can't openly and easily share with anybody else.

For that reason alone, I hope the GIMP is around for a hundred years.

Btw, I found a copy of Gestapo's Last Orgy (aka Last Orgy of the Third Reich) at Rasputin Music and Movies in Fresno; they're a chain of stores in Northern and Central California that have new and used CDs, movies (DVD, Blue-ray, and VHS), games, etc. They do have a decent "cult" selection, with a lot of titles from Something Weird Video-though the Fresno store didn't have Love Camp 7 (too bad, but maybe next time...).

I would draw a firm line at watching a film made by the perpetrator as they committed the crime, however.

If you imagine being family or close to a victim of a serial rapist/murderer/torturer etc, and then finding that someone made a lurid film of your loved ones death and suffering and that others were beating off over it, you might be absolutely disgusted or furious. And those beating off one day might be the infuriated party the next day. I think it's just human nature. Someone said it depends on how close to home a situation strikes, and that is true. I wasn't very moved or affected by the Virginia Tech shootings, but some months later a kid shot up the department store where my family and friends shop all the time, and I was enraged, even moreso when Rolling Stone magazine commemorated the event with a crappy little pity-piece on the kid who did the shooting.

I think it is better to stick to getting our thrills from fiction.

I would like to say that for other reasons, there have been movies that left me disturbed. Along with the "GIRL NEXT DOOR", I was deeply moved by the original "LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT" when I bought my DVD upgrade. Interesting how you can go in after GIMP gratification and come out feeling sad. I think this is a clear sign of good production on the part of the filmmaker.

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Poll question: I generally view all movies as pure entertainment by actors and actresses, even those based on real-life events. Yet there are times when the real-life aspect can take away some of the enjoyment. I think I went into great lengths on this topic before, so I'll just add my 2 cents to some of the themes made so far:

The time element: I agree to a large extent. I have also found that movies with GIMP elements that are quickly put together to cash in on the sensationalism of recent events are generally crap and totally inaccurate. It does make it easier to enjoy these movies.

Crime against children: I try to avoid scenes of violence against children, even when the actresses are obviously in their 20s and if it is a purely fictional account. I have not watched "The Girl Next Door" for that very reason. I have seen tons and tons of the most savage violence in movies, and the only scenes that really get to me are those when children are the victims.

People who act out movie scenes in real life: I'll refer to A Canadian's earlier comment that people have to take responsibility for their actions. I am also tired of criminals blaming films or videogames for their violent behavior. The problem is that these people are screwed-up assholes and should be locked up.

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In keeping with the topic, here's a review.

THE POUGHKEEPSIE TAPES (2007)

This movie falls into the category of our theme about real-life violence depicted in movies. Well, not really. In "The Poughkeepsie Tapes," director John Erick Dowdle takes a different approach to telling the story of a cunning serial killer who taunts police while haunting the town of Poughkeepsie, New York. The movie is filmed as a documentary and consists of interviews with FBI investigators, victims' families, news footage and a few scenes of torture from a stack of videotapes the maniac left behind.

Dowdle tries to make the documentary as realistic as possible to trick the viewer into believing that this was an actual case. And he nearly pulls it off. Nearly. Although a number of flaws and leaps in logic show that this is a faux documentary, it may make it easier to view the GIMP action knowing that it is not based on real events. However, the grainy quality of the tapes remains an annoyance. And if you cannot stomach shaky camera action like in "Blair Witch Project," this film may not be for you.

There's certainly no shortage of video from the tapes. The killer seems to film everything he does, including the abduction of his first victim, a young girl playing with her dolls in her front yard.

As the FBI profilers explain, the killer later becomes more bold and creative. He pretends to have car trouble and is picked up by a young couple. He films the entire sequence, including him clubbing the guy from the backseat and chloroforming the woman. (An FBI guy explains how he does this while still filming.) Nothing GIMP-worthy is done to the woman, unless you enjoy scenes of dismemberment of dead bodies.

So onto the good stuff. Much of the documentary concerns the 8-year ordeal of Cheryl Dempsey (Stacy Chbowsky), a cute blond university student whom the killer takes a particular interest in. He stalks Cheryl, filming her from his car, and eventually breaks into her apartment while she showers. After waiting patiently, he butchers her boyfriend and knocks out the fleeing woman. The stalking parts are fairly well done and creepy, and may be of interest to those who like the first-person perspective.

In between interviews with the cops and Cheryl's mom, we get to one of the best hogties I have seen in a mainstream movie. Cheryl, still fully clothed, is trussed up and the maniac has gagged her with rope that's also looped over her face and tied to her ankles so her head is forced up. Her abductor demands that she state her name. In between muffled sobs and screams, she says "Cheryl Dempsey." The killer responds with "WRONG!" and punches her in the ribs. He demands that she call herself "Slave" and him "Master." OK, a creative hogtie, but a not-so-creative dialogue.

Cheryl, by the way, does an excellent job as the confused and terrified victim.

Moving on, we get a scene of the early stages of Cheryl being broken. She's chained arms behind back in a strappado position in a dingy, poorly-lit basement. The maniac releases her, dunks her head in a water-filled sink, says he has killed her family and generally isn't a very nice guy.

The next GIMP scene has Cheryl, still clothed, hands tied to a plank over her head and sporting a black ballgag. She has become rather dingy herself. The killer says he'll remove the gag if she does something for him. A forced blowjob perhaps? Nah. He dresses her up in Victorian-style dress and opera mask. Oh well. Who can understand the minds of the truly depraved?

To confound police, the killer changes his MO and targets prostitutes. The killings aren't really shown, only glimpses of the corpses, some naked, abandoned in public areas. But there's one exception. A blond hooker gets her wrists tied behind a pillar in the basement. He orders Cheryl to slit the prostitute's throat, which she does rather easily, showing that she has been broken.

The final scene of note has the killer pretending to be a cop and offering a ride to a female whose car has broken down. When she realizes he's a nutcase and panics, he offers her a deal. If she "allows" him to rape her, he'll let her go. She agrees. He then laughs and says that he can rape her and do anything he wants to her. He rapes her in the woods, but we can't see it because he dropped the camera. Although a bit long, I thought this setup was well done.

Our unfortunate motorist ends up in the basement. We get a face-shot of her with a wraparound clear-tape gag. A leather strap is on her forehead to keep her in place. The killer, wearing that pointy nose mask thing sneaks up on her in Golum-like movements and jabs a needle in her neck.

I must applaud Dowdle's approach to "The Poughkeepsie Tapes." I found the movie rather entertaining. However, if he wanted to really pull it off, he should have left out all of the "Hollywood" stuff, like the cliched remarks made.

Cheryl's mom to the news cameras: Whoever took Cheryl, please bring her home. She (pause) is a good girl."

FBI profiler: "Maybe he thought we'd be strangely sort-of impressed by it. (pause) No. After seeing what he did to Cheryl Dempsey, I can feel nothing but loathing for this guy."

The whole Stockholm Syndrome angle was way overblown, and perhaps the filmmaker's way of adding a "love story" element to the documentary. TV news footage says someone, presumably the killer, stole the corpse of Cheryl from her grave. Oh please.

And there's the persistent implausibility that the FBI would allow such footage to be used in a documentary, or the parents of a messed-up rape and torture victim agreeing to let her do an interview.

As for the GIMP scenes, there really is no nudity, and although the killer is also a rapist, the acts are not shown. I guess the scenes may work if you are not too bothered by the glitches and poor quality associated with camcorders of yesteryear. Coupled with the good acting, it actually did seem to enhance the realism and menace in the scenes. The killer's face is not shown, so we only hear his voice, which alternates quite well from normal (and a bit creepy) to psychotic.

There was a real serial killer in Poughkeepsie, but the documentary is not based on him. The viewer can safely watch this "real-life" movie as pure fiction/fantasy.

My Grades:

As a movie: B

GIMP scenes: C+

To get an idea of idea of the quality of the killer's videos, click the pics on the left for stills here. Sorry. You can't view the clips unless you're a member of the Raffish site.

In the link for your review, I did find a place where the film can be screened in its entirety online however. Definitely not my favorite way to see a movie but it will work if there's no other options available.

The direct link to your latest review is in my Homepage URL above. Now that the Reviews section is back, I hope we'll start getting more of them from the rest of the gang.

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Poll question: My, so many interesting takes on movies based on real-life cases. One of the shortest answers but one I have to comment on is by Chase. He wrote:

I would draw a firm line at watching a film made by the perpetrator as they committed the crime, however.

Now let me ask you...does that happen a lot? I know the movie Brutus just reviewed is a fictional take on watching a serial killer's home movies, and so was Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer, The Great American Snuff Film, and a few other films I've seen where they use that device. But how often does real-life crime footage ever get released to the public?

I recall seeing a short snippet of some bondage footage shot by serial killer Charles Ng years ago on a news program, and of course, the videos that Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo made were used in the trial against them, but I don't think any of those ever saw the light of day outside of the courtroom. In fact, a few years back, they made a big splash by announcing that those tapes were being destroyed. So that's really a non-issue in my mind.

Frankly, though, I've always strived for realism in my bondage fantasies, so if a film can pull off the illusion that what we're watching is actually real, it makes it more believable and therefore I'm probably going to get into it more.

And I also agree with those posters who say that even fantasy atrocities are always going to be based, if not directly, on real-life atrocities. You can't do anything about what happened in the past; women have been raped, they've been tortured, they've been killed. As one of the posters in Boilerplant's group pointed out, war is an atrocity and we all enjoy war films. No one is being harmed in a movie, even if it was based on real events. It's really up to your own personal comfort level as to whether you want view such material, but I think they should still have the right to produce it.

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GIMP Movie Review

SS Hell Pack Triple Feature contains three lesser-known movies in the Nazi camp genre: SS Experiment Love Camp, SS Girls and SS Hell Camp 5 - Women's Hell. All three are Italian-made, two from director Sergio Garrone and one from the much-reviled Bruno Mattei. None of these measure up to Ilsa but they do have some notable GIMP scenes. I'll review each of them in separate postings.

SS Experiment Love Camp

This one starts out with a bang, or I should say, a jolt. A naked female prisoner is strapped to an electric chair, complete with metal helmet and coiled wires. Unwilling to take an oath of loyalty to the Fuhrer, she is electrocuted and screams loudly. Tears run down her sweaty face, blood appears on her fingers where they are affixed to the chair, but she refuses to take the pledge a second time, so she gets another zap. And another. At this point, she is barely conscious, so they inject her breast with something to make her pass out completely. Then her limp nude body is taken away on a gurney to be incinerated. The incineration scene is rather strange - there are other naked, unconscious victims piled up, and when the flames are turned on (images of fire, actually, superimposed on the pile of nude women), they react by making stiff, jerky movements. WTF? Must be a side effect of the drug.

A second prisoner, who has witnessed the electro scene, is next in the chair. At first she won't recite the oath. So they literally shock the piss out of her - a stream of urine emerges from below the chair. Then she complies and the opening credits roll. Pretty good electro scenes, with good acting and nice, realistic elements. The women are not stunners but are acceptably attractive and have well-sized, natural tits. This scene was posted to YouTied a while back. But I thought the incinerator part was rather bizarre and distracting.

After the credits a truck arrives in camp and about a dozen reasonably but not unrealistically attractive prisoners disembark and head for the mandatory showers. Nice views of naked wet flesh. Still unclothed, the women report to a laboratory to be tested. Their purpose is to have sex with German soldiers under unusual experimental conditions, such as immersed in a hot/cold water tank or hopped up on drugs. Lucky ladies.

After a lot of plot development comes a scene in which one girl "refuses to collaborate". So when the others have left the lab, a sadistic officer and a female prisoner/matron dump her naked in the water tank where she's tied AOH to the ceiling while they turn the heat on. After she "stews" a bit, they quickly take it down to frigid and we watch her slowly become frost-covered and then turn into a popsicle. Barely alive, she gets the injection-incineration treatment. An interesting scene but they could have tied her wrists tighter.

Later, at an orgy staged for the officers, a cute, baby-faced girl with big blue eyes, who is reluctant to participate, gets slapped around by the sadistic officer. Later, she wakes up naked underneath the drunken, passed-out officer and finds that her vagina is bleeding, apparently from some pretty rough sex (not shown) or perhaps because she was a virgin. Distraught, she grabs a fork and stabs the officer several times. As she flees naked, she takes some machine-gun fire and falls. Here, it's not exactly clear where and how badly she has been wounded, which I think detracts a bit from what happens next. As an example to others, she is hung upside down with her feet attached by rope to the top of a wooden pole. Unfortunately, the scene is at night and is bit darkened. But the camera slowly pans down the girl's body and we see trickles of blood running down the length of her body until her arms drop toward the ground and she expires. She is the most attractive of the prisoners, and I would like to have seen her captured and tormented a while instead of being dispatched so quickly.

Later a few clothed women are brought into the lab to be strapped into a chair and have their eardrums blasted with pressurized air. Refusal is met with death, but so is co-operation. It's a rather pointless, grisly scene with no erotic content.

As a movie, SS Experiment contains a lot more plot and character development than one usually finds in this genre. There is a romance between a prisoner and a soldier, and a very detailed transplant scene involving what I think is a supposed to be a prostate (I had a tough time watching this). The acting is decent but marred by mediocre dubbing. The film-makers paid a great deal of attention to details, from flies buzzing around to unshaven armpits on the prisoners (hey, they don't issue razor blades in prison camps). But the women are naturally attractive - no pumped-up tits, bald beavers, tattoos or piercings in sight. I give the movie a C.

GIMP-wise, the offerings are few. I would like to have seen more GIMP action and less story. The incineration scenes did nothing for me. But the electro-torture scene is well-done. Nothing else in the movie comes close to the impact of the "shocking" opener. My GIMP grade is a C+.

I have a hard time watching GIMP movies in which I strongly empathize with the victim, whether the story is based on reality or is pure fiction. It is not so much whether a story is based on reality but how I identify with victim. I have a stronger connection to victims who are pretty, young, innocent, wholesome, and contemporary. I also have more empathy if victims are real people in dire circumstances that hit close to home.

As a rule, I have a harder time enjoying GIMP movies based on real-life events, but only because I connect to the victims in some emotional way.

In the past, I have avoided picking up this movie, as I seem to recall most people who have seen this flick haven't thought much of it -- but learning about that water-tank scene may cause me to reconsider. And the "SS Hell Pack Triple Feature" looks to be reasonably priced. Thanks for writing the review.

Yes, it's wrong. It's wrong, it's wrong, it's wrong. I've heard that message loud and clear.

And yet ... despite everything that's been said on this board regarding real-life torture, I have to tell you: I still plan to catch tomorrow night's episode of "I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!". How could I not want to see this?

If it's any consolation, though, I'm actually more interested in seeing how Spencer deals with the situation.

And if it's any further consolation, my interest in the show is really mostly focused on co-host Myleene Klass.

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Brutus: Thanks for the great review of The Poughkeepsie Tapes. I always like a some sex and/or nudity personally, so I'll just satisfy myself with your excellent review and not waste any time actually watching any of the fully clothed goings on.

As for the Powershotz clips, Steve often leaves in a hint of models using the safe word or calling a halt to the action for whatever reason. Hazel had a few memorable moments of which I am quite fond. I don't think Steve pushes his models too much, given the nature of the shoots. If anything, I'll bet he found these shoots mildly frustrating or maybe even annoying. In the scene descriptions, he specifically makes comments that he usually does not make. Oh well. Fetish models, even novices, should learn how and when to use a safe word.

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Daily Pic: God, I love rack pictures. In fact, I love rack scenes. Thanks for this one, Ralphus!

I also kept the incineration scene, even though it was poorly done with superimposed flames. All in all, it might be worth checking out on DVD, especially since you're getting 3, count 'em 3 Nazi classics, all for 15 bucks. Looking forward to your reviews of the other two movies.

The direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

I'm working on a review of SS Camp 5 - Women's Hell (listed without the "5" in the title on the Triple Pack). It's a cousin of SS Experiment; they share the same director (Sergio Garrone), camp setting, and Nazi cast members (in different roles). Way to save money, Sergio. I'll post the review as soon as it's ready.

Yes, 15 bucks for three movies is a pretty good bargain, but I've been burned a few times by two-fers and three-fers that have had GIMP scenes cut from them, or cut short. So be on your guard, folks!

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Ralphus: Sorry, I didn't know that "The Poughkeepsie Tapes" hadn't been released on DVD. I got the movie from a horror-fan friend who does PR/media work and has access to promo videos and media kits. Strange the movie hasn't been released commercially yet.

But how often does real-life crime footage ever get released to the public?

Well, Al Jazeera seems to have no qualms showing real-life torture and murder. But I think no Western media with half a brain would do such a thing for serial killing/rape crimes. I wouldn't watch it anyway.

Does anyone here remember the case of Tara Leigh Calico? She went missing in 1988 and later a Polaroid of her bound and gagged was found and shown on the news. If the boy wasn't in the picture, it could have looked simply like a photo taken by an amateur bondage couple.

I really hate to admit this, but I initially was sort of aroused by the photo. After acknowledging that she was a real victim (and is still missing), the feelings of guilt and shame, along with my desire to be "normal," led me to get rid of much of my bondage stash in the mistaken idea that I could lose this fetish. Now, I'm only creeped out by that picture. (Ralphus, if this subject matter is in poor taste for the board, please remove it.)

Ralphus, if this subject matter is in poor taste for the board, please remove it.

I'm not removing it; I actually think it ties in nicely with the current poll we're having about people's feelings about feeling guilt over media that deals with real-life crimes. I had never heard of the Tara Leigh Calico story, which is surprising since I'm usually drawn to stories like that, particularly in the unusual instance of having a bondage picture released of the victim. Like probably a lot of us here, I'm fascinated by true crime stories. But of course, on a public forum such as this, we have to use upmost discretion and never give anyone the impression that we're in favor of any real life violence against women, which of course, you didn't. In fact, your post said just the opposite, that your own guilt from getting turned on by the Polaroid was the impetus to get rid of your stash and try to be "normal", whatever that is.

I went through a period like that myself in my early 20s, where I questioned myself about why I was "different" and somehow "sick" because I got turned on my images of women tied up and tortured. It really wasn't until I discovered the Internet that I realized I wasn't quite so unusual, after all. And that's why a forum such as this is important, because it allows like-minded people to congregate and explore their dark-side fantasies without the fear of reprisal. In fantasy, even in dark fantasies, anything goes unless an innocent person gets hurt. It's a whole let better to talk about it, and even whack off to it, than to go out and commit violence yourself.

Comments? Any thoughts on the subject? Anything to turn the subject away from A Canadian's obsession with his favorite reality TV show. Dude, you didn't think you were going to see real torture on that show, did you?

Now, what they ought to do is to Americanize some of those game shows they have in Japan, where like, say, if you get a question wrong, they give the women electric shock. Actually, I don't know if they really have a show like that in Japan, but I would put it past them. They have a much more open attitude about such things there. God bless the Japanese.

I had the same reaction as you when her story was reported on "A Current Affair." At first, I was intensely excited by the photo and the circumstances of her captivity. Then almost immediately, I experienced overwhelming revulsion and unbearable shame for feeling that way. My reaction to her story still haunts me.

Let me preface this comment with a reminder that I am unquestionably a misanthrope and humankind in general--and the media in particular--embarrasses and disgusts me in an inordinate number of instances.

With that said, I believe strongly that getting that reaction was precisely what the media had in mind. I am surprised and amazed when the media actually demonstrates restraint based on ethics or morality. Usually, they withhold reporting when they are paid to look the other way. Salaciousness and titillation sell.

Consequently, I think that a lot of people felt that initial thrill, but sadly, very few of them analyzed their reaction quite as thoroughly as Brutus and the other forum commenters. It is possible that GIMPers are, if not more sensitive to the issue, certainly more aware of the desires and emotions evoked. For the most part, GIMPers tend to struggle with differentiating between fantasy- and reality-based entertainment, because it is a fine line we walk. As evidenced by subsequent comments, it is an on-going struggle. As it should be.

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John Galt wrote: For the most part, GIMPers tend to struggle with differentiating between fantasy- and reality-based entertainment, because it is a fine line we walk. As evidenced by subsequent comments, it is an on-going struggle. As it should be.

Well-stated, my man.

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Speaking of reality vs. fantasy, director Sergio Garrone did something in SS Hell Camp 5 that he did not do in SS Experiment Love Camp: He inserted a montage of actual Holocaust-related photos in the opening credits, and later in the movie interjects some grisly Holocaust film footage. Given what we've said and heard in response to the poll question, I wondered what his motivation was for doing that. Was he trying to create linkage between his work and real life (like, 'based on actual events') or was he trying to say 'Don't be so critical of my film, actual events were far worse than this'. I looked for answers from an interview with him that is included on the SS Hell Pack Triple Feature CD, but he really never addressed that issue directly.

He did say something interesting about censorship, however. During the period when he made the SS camp films (1970-1975), the Italian government was trying to stimulate the native film industry by giving grants to film-makers. This, however, meant that the government had to approve the product. Interestingly, it was not the content of his scenes that the censors objected to; it was the length - they felt the scenes went on too long, so they made him shorten them up.

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Brutus wrote: I recall seeing [SS Experiment Love Camp] a looong time ago but was also not very impressed with the GIMP scenes. Maybe it was because I enjoyed "Ilsa" so much more.

Yes, well, Ilsa has ruined a lot of us for other Nazi flicks. Still, I press on. See my review of SS Hell Camp 5 below.

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SS Hell Camp 5 - Women's Hell

A truck arrives in camp and unloads a gaggle of women with varying degrees of attractiveness. The best-looking are selected for brothel duty. That means they get to shower a lot, have sex with the officers, and drink heavily. The others become candidates for scientific experiments 'of great value to the Third Reich'.

In the first laboratory scene, a prisoner is strapped to an operating table naked except for a sheet covering her pelvic area. The Nazi scientists are trying to test a new burn remedy. They smear a patch of flammable gel on her leg and set it on fire. Flames and great, bloodcurdling screams ensue as the prisoner squirms and thrashes about. Then, apparently in shock, she lies still with eyes wide open as the doctors apply some kind of ointment.

Later, we're back in the lab and see a quick scene showing two prisoners together on a gurney away from the operating table. They are displayed in a similar manner as above, one with the burn mark on her leg, the other with the same area stitched up, evidently with a Magic Marker. Then another prisoner is strapped to a table, like the others, and given the flame treatment. She screams and arches her back very high off the table as an attendant holds her head down. This time the 'doctors' let the fire burn a bit longer before tending to the wound. Because they don't know what's going to happen to them until the fire starts, the 'flame girls' don't show much preliminary anxiety or fear, which I think diminishes the scenes a bit. But all of them are fairly attractive and have nicely-shaped natural breasts prominently displayed. As I watched them I thought: I wonder why they weren't drafted for the party crew?

About midway through the flick, a few of the brothel duty prisoners try to escape. They are discovered and locked in an incinerator. When the jets are turned on, they huddle together and cry out as they are enveloped by images of fire superimposed on the screen. The Nazis grab four other prisoners that they suspect of abetting the escape, and that sets up the next GIMP scene.

The four prisoners are shackled up naked in the torture room: two are chained to the wall with arms outstretched; one is strapped in a chair; and the fourth is strapped to a table, lying on her back, and her scalp is girded with a steel band attached to the table end. The nasty lieutenant (played by the same actor who portrayed the sadistic officer in SS Experiment) and a female officer grill the prisoners, wanting to know who was involved in aiding the escape attempt. But the babes won't talk.

Lt. Nasty tries to get the most strong-willed one to cave in by torturing the other three one-by-one. He takes pliers to the the girl in the chair, pulling her fingernails one after another, then sets fire to bamboo shoots under the remaining fingernails. For the girl on the table, the Lt. slowly turns a wheel, tightening the steel band until it cracks her skull. Then he puts on some brass knuckles with sharp protrusions and punches the third girl (chained to the wall) repeatedly in the midsection. For her punishment, the most stubborn girl gets whipped across the abdomen and then branded with a hot iron. Finally the lieutenant grabs some large tongs and says, "Well, if you won't talk, you won't be needing this!" He shoves the tongs in her mouth and rips out her tongue, chuckling and grinning. This scene is great; it is lengthy, and every second just drips with menace and maliciousness. IMO everyone involved does a great acting job, from realistic screams to sinister looks. The actor playing the lieutenant must have been born bad.

Then the girls get the incinerator treatment. The lieutenant, feeling a bit edgy after his labors and perhaps frustrated that he didn't get any info, decides that he needs to unwind. As he passes by the quarters of a very attractive, sleeping blond prisoner who is privileged enough to have her own cell (long story), he bursts in, tears off the blanket to reveal her nakedness, and jumps her. She struggles to no avail, as he grips her arms tightly and puts his full weight on her. This is a well-done rape scene.

Finally, everything goes to hell as the Russian troops advance on the camp and the prisoners rebel.

As a movie, this is very well done for this genre. Director Sergio Garrone shows great attention to detail (as well as pyromaniac tendencies), as he did in SS Experiment. There are interesting characters, including a cunning, dark-skinned French-via-Jamaica captured Resistance fighter (played with earthy seductiveness by lovely Rita Manna) who becomes the commander's favorite and unfortunately does not get GIMPed. (If this was a Filipino WIP flick, Pam Grier might play the part). It's got the requisite gratuitous sex and nudity. I could have done without the superfluous insertion of some real-life Holocaust scenes in the opening credits and midway through. The movie unravels a bit at the end, and the dubbing is mediocre at best, but I give it a C+.

GIMP-wise, there are only a few scenes but I thought they were nicely done. The actresses were not drop-dead gorgeous, but I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed. They played their GIMP scenes very realistically. My GIMP grade is B-.

Of course, the triple-package DVD is a deal and I'm still interested in the overall package. But I'll be FF'ing through much of SS Hell Camp 5 - Women's Hell, I suspect.

The Ilsa movies did indeed set the bar high for Nazi torture flicks. I would love to see something that surpasses Ilsa, but I think maybe that genre has come and gone. But we shall see.... We shall see.... (At which point Ilsa would add, "And so will the general," with a hard "g" and the emphasis on the final syllable.)

Unfortunately, it looks like things off-camera have taken a turn for the bizarre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_exploitation

And here I thought I had seen them all, but no, this one sounds different. I don't recognize the descriptions. Lots of burning tortures? Nope, I would have remembered that. I know some GIMPers have already stated their aversion to the content you mentioned, but this sounds like a must-see in this pyromaniac's book. Netflix doesn't carry the SS Hell Pack collection, but so far, I'm ready to cough up my 15 bucks to order this one. I'll wait until your next review to complete the trifecta before whipping out my VISA card.

The direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

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Ralphus: I liked that Wikipedia entry you found. Is there nothing one cannot find on the 'net? The article even has some more ideas for Nazi flicks to explore. It's interesting that "SS Girls" is said to be "a blatant ripoff of 'Salon Kitty'." Not having seen "Salon Kitty", I've reviewed "SS Girls" on its own merits (See below)

Yes, the 1970's produced some great GIMP moments, but also some pretty weird stuff...such as SS Girls. -------

GIMP Movie Review - SS Girls (1977)

It's not just the bizarre screenplay and incoherent direction that make Bruno Mattei's "SS Girls" the unloved stepsister in the "SS Hell Pack Triple Feature." Consider the premise: Our beloved Fuhrer suspects that high-ranking military officials are becoming disloyal to the cause. He commissions officer Shellenberg to recruit prostitutes, set up a bordello in an empty mansion, and provide recreation time for the suspected traitors. The girls then loosen them up with sex and booze and report any traitorous comments they make when their inhibitions are dropped. Except for a few battle scenes, everything takes place in the mansion. That means no camp, no prison, no dungeon, no interrogation of women, no torture...no GIMP!

Yes, the movie has plenty of nudity. It has a few quick "whipping scenes" (more like playful preludes to sex, with no restraints) that you'll miss if you blink. One girl is briefly shown horizontally suspended from several rope loops during her "training". But there's no Merciless Peril...some of this stuff is downright goofy.

It's obvious that Mattei didn't know what he wanted to convey here, so he tried everything. Maybe he was on crack.

To add injury to insult, it seems like a scene was deleted, right at the point where Shellenberg is about to celebrate his success with a MFF threesome. My research at IMDB suggests that there may be two minutes missing.

Bottom line is that GIMPers (and others) should not waste any time or money on this mess. I'd like to give it an F, but that would imply that it's worse than "Blitzkrieg", or as bad as "Plan Nine from Outer Space", which it's not. So I'll give it a D-.

But I also had the misfortune of watching "SS Girls." I agree that the movie seriously lacked any point or purpose. Thanks for the triple feature of reviews. Nice reading indeed.

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YikYakker wrote:

Thanks for the update on Jessica Alba; we can always rely on you for the latest. Seems there really is a little bad girl inside her, isn't there?

I guess Jessica does have a wild side. But I hope she spends her time in Oklahoma making a movie that fulfils its GIMP potential and perhaps puts a little less effort into exploring her inner Andy Dick.

As always, the direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

And thanks to everyone who takes the time to review movies for the forum; it is most appreciated.

She definitely needs to be punished, doesn't she? I have some ideas, which would also break her on-screen nudity virginity, so it's a win-win!

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John Galt: I had my share of fantasies involving nurses, stewardesses and cheerleaders (mostly cheerleaders, in fact) in the past.

She's a cheerleader by day (tortured and raped in the locker room) and a candy-striper by night (tortured and raped in the supply closet and the OR). Her mom is a stewardess (tortured and raped in the airplane bathroom) -- together they are tortured and raped when burglers catch them at home!

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Goon Squad: Has anyone seen Rick's new release yet? If so, any thoughts? Most important, is there a trailer for the sequel, and how does Lisa look in the trailer? Actually, I know what the answer to that last question would have to be, but I just want to hear someone confirm it.

The Jessica Alba vandalism controversy: You know, if it were anyone but Jessica Alba, I would normally say give them a fine and community service. But man, this is Jessica Alba and we need to make an example of her! This will not be tolerated. I would say mandatory jail time, as well as being kept in strict bondage confinement during her entire stay. And if, say, the prison guard or the warden or any male visitors happen to take advantage of her while she's in there...well, hey, sometimes these things happen in jail. She shouldn't have been defacing property, dammit. She needs to be taught a lesson.

Title: Slave Girls High School - Colored Stage 4 (Attackers RBD-136)

Starring: Rui Saotome, Rushia Himesaki, Sakura Isshiki and Miyuki

Directed by: Shiniti Kawamura

Running time: Two hours and 40 minutes

Slave Girls High School - Colored Stage 4 is part of an Attackers series that began with last year's Shark Special 53 about female students and their teachers being trained to become slaves who must perform live sex shows in their school basement.

This fourth movie in the series is particularly good, in large part because of its two leading stars, Rui Saotome and Rushia Himesaki. Rui is a small, pretty woman with long light-brown hair and bangs. She has a nice body and great breasts (possibly enhanced). Rushia, meanwhile, is a slender beauty with big eyes, long black hair (sometimes in a ponytail), small breasts, a perfect trim waist and long legs. Her face projects real anger when she is being humiliated and she gets sweaty when she's being violated. Both ladies give exceptional and credible performances.

First hour

In this particular series, the school administration runs the slave ring. Cute student Sakura Isshiki is the first student to be "recruited" as a sex slave -- two men accost her near some school lockers, grabbing the squealing student by the arms and taking her away. Pretty Rui Saotome is captured next. As Rui is sitting at a table reading a book, a man sneaks up behind her and puts a chloroform rag in her face, knocking her out. Sexy teacher Rushia Himesaki is also captured by a sneak with a chloroform rag.

Teacher Rushia and student Rui wake up lying side by side on a black mattress inside a large jail cell in the school's basement. Both women are still fully dressed, with Rushia wearing a foxy-looking blue blouse, tan-colored skirt and pantyhose, while Rui is dressed in a schoolgirl outfit, with a short-sleeved white blouse, blue skirt and plaid knee-high socks. Before the women can get their bearings, three male villains arrive to break them in. Two men grab Rushia by the arms and legs and hoist her to another nearby mattress (I love it when a helpless women is carried to her fate). The villain who has student Rui forces some kisses on her and slaps her face, while the two guys with teacher Rushia go to work stripping off her clothes. The villain with student Rui rips open her blouse and lifts up her bra so he can suck on the struggling student's left breast. Meanwhile, the two guys with teacher Rushia have stripped her down to her panties and pantyhose. They pin her on her back as one guy sucks on the struggling beauty's small right breast and then forces kisses on her.

The two women are brought back to the same mattress and forced to blow the villains, who have stripped off their own clothes. Student Rui still has some clothes on although her breasts and pussy are exposed, while teacher Rushia is completely naked. The forced blowjob moments are OK but look somewhat phony. One guy then holds down Rui's arms and pins her on her back so another guy can rape her. Eventually, both women get raped in positions like doggie and missionary that again look somewhat phony. The villains finish by cumming in the women's pussies.

The other captured student, Sakura, is brought into the cell to add to the fun. Slender Sakura (she may be a bit too skinny for my tastes) is naked, on her knees, with her hands cuffed behind her back, and she is blowing a nude male villain who stands in front of her. Meanwhile, in the back, Rushia and Rui are both squatted, fully naked, with their hands cuffed behind their backs, and villains are forcing them to suck on vibrators. To help promote compliance, a guy with a flogger whips the backs of the three captive women, and sexy teacher Rushia looks particularly angry as she is forced to humiliate herself. Sakura is then tapped in positions like reverse cowgirl, doggie and missionary, as Rushia and Rui in the back get worked over with the vibrators.

In a new scene, Rui is kneeling in front a naked guy, her hands cuffed behind her back, and she is blowing him, while in the background, slender teacher Rushia (whose hands are also cuffed behind her back) is riding a guy cowgirl style. An evil female administrator, Sayuri Shiraishi (in a non-sex role), enters the cell and starts taunting the two sex slaves. Pretty Rui does some nice whimpering as she blows the one villain, and Sayuri spanks her ass for good measure. The guy finishes by cumming in Rui's mouth. Another guy arrives to be sucked by squatting Rui, while teacher Rushia finishes the cowgirl ride and is moved into a position to blow the villain, who is still lying on his back. The guy on his back grabs Rushia's long hair as the teacher's sweaty face bobs up and down on his member, and the scene finishes with a close-up on Rushia's big eyes looking up with intense hatred as she continues sucking.

An enema moment follows. Rushia is on all fours, her hands cuffed together in front, and a villain is using a gigantic plastic needle to inject water into her ass. After struggling in anguish to hold it in, Rushia shoots the water from her ass into a bowl.

Next comes feeding time. Student Rui and teacher Rushia are lying naked on the floor, hands cuffed behind their backs, and they are pretty much lying head to head. Evil female administrator Sayuri arrives with a dog bowl full of food and places it near their heads. Reluctantly, the women slowly take turns eating from the bowl like dogs.

Second hour

Pretty Rui is squatted on a black mattress, naked, with her hands cuffed behind her back. She is surrounded by three squatting males, stripped down to their undies, who are feeling her up. One guy stands up, drops his undies and brings his dick close to Rui's face for a blowjob. A firm slap to the face convinces Rui to suck the guy, while the two other male villains suck on Rui's tits and finger her. It makes for quite a picture, and villainess Sayuri (who was off to the side) gets some nice shots with her digital camera, including some excellent close-ups of the blowjob and of Rui's tongue licking the villain's penis. The guy getting blown grabs the whimpering Rui's head for some serious face fucking and finishes by cumming in Rui's mouth. Rui is forced to suck a second villain and then gets gangbanged in positions like doggie and missionary.

A quick scene follows back in the regular school setting. The slave students are sitting at a table and teacher Rushia is giving a lesson. But someone activates the hidden vibrator locked inside Rushia by a plastic chastity belt, and she slowly walks away to some nearby lockers, where a male teacher is lurking. Rushia drops to her feet to blow the guy (the scene fades to black and the blowjob isn't seen).

Back in the basement cell, a black mattress has been placed in a "centre stage" area in front of three male teachers in suits who are seated on a couch. Each slave woman appears one at a time on the "stage" mattress and announces she will be performing for the men (which is greeted with applause). Each woman then strips off her clothes down to her plastic chastity belt and a villain removes each chastity belt and the vibrator each belt has held in place. Sakura is the first to strip for the male audience, followed by Miyuki (a big-breasted student, who has black hair that she wears in pigtails), the teacher, Rushia, and finally pretty Rui.

Rui is squatted on the "stage" mattress, her arms cuffed behind her back, and she has a male villain sucking her right tit to start the first live-sex show, while Miyuki and teacher Rushia -- whose hands are also cuffed behind their backs -- are enlisted to kneel in front of two of the teachers on the couch and blow them. Miyuki is fine with sucking her guy but defiant Rushia really hates the teacher she's supposed to blow, and resists. Another male villain walks up and slaps Rushia's face. That villain then grabs Rushia's head and forces it into the male teacher's lap, pushing her face up and down on the male teacher's schlong.

Rushia and Miyuki continue to blow the two teachers. One villain spanks the upset Rushia's ass, forcing her to reluctantly run her tongue along the male teacher's shaft, including tongue-tickling the penis head. To add to the humiliation, the teacher that Rushia is blowing (the guy Rushia hates) gets out a video camera and shoots some POV footage of Rushia sucking him off.

Over on the mattress "stage," Rui has been blowing a guy standing in front of her. At one point, the guy grabs Rui's head and forces her to sustain some deep-throat action on his big cock. Rui, whose arms are still cuffed behind her back, is then violated doggie style, followed by reverse cowgirl and missionary, with the guy cumming in her pussy. Meanwhile, back at the couch, the guy Rushia was blowing finishes by shooting in her mouth, a moment of glory captured on videotape by the shooter and by another guy with a digital camera.

A change in positions -- Rui is brought over to the couch, to join Miyuki in blowing the seated teachers, while teacher Rushia is the new "star" on the black-mattress "stage" in front of them. The teacher Rui is blowing is very well endowed, and handy with a camera -- he uses a digital camera to get some close-up shots of Rui's mouth working his dick.

On the mattress "stage," the naked teacher, Rushia, is seated, her arms still cuffed behind her, and her legs spread wide open. Two of the male teachers, wearing dress shirts and suit pants, suck Rushia's small tits, kiss her, and finger her pussy. Although Rushia struggles to fight it, the tit sucking and pussy play arouse her, and at one point the beauty throws her head back in reluctant ecstasy. The two teachers drop their pants and Rushia blows each one of the standing teachers, including deep-throating one guy who is well hung. To add to the humiliation, the villains have captured Rushia's boyfriend, and he is brought in wearing nothing but undies and a bit gag, and with his hands cuffed behind his back. The boyfriend is forced to watch Rushia being violated in positions like missionary, doggie and cowgirl, and one villain finishes by cumming in sweaty Rushia's mouth.

Finally, back at the couch, the well-endowed dude being blown by Rui is now using a video camera to record the POV action. He captures the triumphant climax when he cums in Rui's mouth and gets some nice follow-up footage of cum dribbling down Rui's chin.

Final 40 minutes

Another quick scene in the above-ground school setting, where the students and Rushia are sitting at a table and Rushia is teaching. This time, it's Rui's vibrator that is activated. She goes over to the lockers area and drops to her knees to blow a guy (again, the blowjob isn't shown).

In the dungeon below, it's time for another live sex show. This time, as teacher Rushia and student Miyuki are blowing two guys on a couch, slender student Sakura is at the side of the mattress "stage." She is on her knees, with her arms cuffed behind her, and is resting her head against the mattress as a villain uses the plastic needle to inject water into her ass. Meanwhile, Rui is on the mattress "stage" in a kneeling position with her hands cuffed behind her. A teacher walks up to Rui, drops his pants, and gets Rui to blow him. Rui's guy lays down on the mattress and Rui rides him reverse cowgirl, while over to the side, a squealing Sakura blasts the water out of her ass and into a bowl. Meanwhile, over at the couch, the guy Rushia is blowing shoots a load in her mouth, and cum rolls down her lovely face.

In a new scene, Rui and the teacher, Rushia, are standing naked in the centre of the jail cell area. Each woman is tied arms over head, with her wrists cuffed together. A villain with a flogger proceeds to whip each of the young ladies' asses, as another guy taunts them. There are some hard cracks of the whip and each woman responds with perfect jolts and squeals. And both women's butts show some realistic looking pink marks.

Next up is another live show (which is greeted with applause from the male teachers on the couch). This time, Rushia's bit-gagged boyfriend (whose arms are cuffed behind him) is forced to lie on the mattress "stage" and get blown by skinny Sakura, as a crouching and upset Rushia is held in place by a villain and forced to watch. Rushia squirms and struggles but the show continues -- the villains force Sakura, who's wearing her knee-high plaid socks, to ride Rushia's boyfriend cowgirl style (to more applause from the audience). Over at the couch, meanwhile, the kneeling Rui and Miyuki do the blowjob duties on two of the three teachers seated there.

Sakura rides Rushia's boyfriend to completion (to more applause) and is taken over to the couch, to blow a seated teacher. Meanwhile, Rui is taken away from the couch and brought to the "stage," to suck Rushia's boyfriend as anguished Rushia is once again forced to watch. Rui, who is also wearing the knee-high socks, is soon forced to ride Rushia's boyfriend cowgirl style (more applause).

As Rui continues to ride teacher Rushia's boyfriend, Rushia is moved to sit on top of the boyfriend's chest, facing the bouncing Rui. As Rui humps the boyfriend, the two women are forced to pleasure each other by locking lips and sucking each other's tits. At one point, the villains force the two women's faces together, and Rui and Rushia's tongues meet and some soft kisses are exchanged. Finally, bouncing Rui rides Rushia's boyfriend to completion, to a final round of applause.

My grade: A

Slave Girls High School - Colored Stage 4 stumbles a bit out of the gate with the phony-looking violations at the start. But the rest of the movie delivers excellent scenes of rape and degradation and even some nice whippings. The two lead stars give great performances and there are plenty of strong moments. This movie is highly recommended and I would say the entire series deserves close attention (Interesting aside: Attackers is releasing a best of compilation in July that has highlights from the first four movies).

I was already scheduled to be away for part of next week, on a short trip to Washington. Meanwhile, my home computer broke down this morning and I need to determine what has gone wrong (I am typing this message from an Internet cafe).

In the event I can't get the computer fixed or replaced right away, I may have to be away from here for a bit. Perhaps, somewhere in my subconscious, I knew something like this would happen and that I couldn't afford to be patient waiting to learn more about Goon Squad.

Anyway, I feel confident I have left plenty of words (in the review below) to help cover my absence.

Second, All you GIMP fans must remember the scene from Dragnet with the blond woman tied and being filmed. Her kidnapper moves in close snapping a rope in front of her. How many of you know that that episode was based on a true story? It was based on a seriel killer named Harvey Glatman. He posed as a detective magazine photographer, but once he got the women tied up, he would rape and then strangle them. He killed 3 women this way and he was caught because his fourth victim managed fo get away from him.

As for "Women's Hell 5", I was not aware that this movie existed. The primary GIMP scene was a definite plus IMHO. GIMP scenes are always too short or intercut with a party scene or someone coming to the rescue. Nice to have one long enough to enjoy for a few more moments anyway.

To be honest, even though "SS GIRLS" is an ultra cheesy production with no GIMP action, I like watching it just for kicks. It's even good to watch with the sound off and replaced with my own musical selections.

villains are forcing them to suck on vibrators. To help promote compliance, a guy with a flogger whips the backs of the three captive women

I love it when beatings and rape (even plastic rape) come together! [grin!]

Sounds like a fun flick.

It's called "Rape the Movie"

It's funny as Hell.

Hope those guys get some real money to make it into a feature film. I'd pay double to see it.

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A Canadian: Outstanding review of Slave Girls High School - Colored Stage 4. (Wow, those Japanese sure have a way with movie titles.) This one sounds very good, with lots of forced sex and accompanying nudity. Thanks for the heads-up!

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Ralphus: Great daily picture today. This is the kind of adult comic I misspent my younger days desperately seeking. Well, at least I found John Willie.

A Canadian: You may not be around to read this for a while (computer problems suck...and I oughta know), but thanks for taking the time to review Slave Girls High School - Colored Stage 4. Probably not my snort of coke, since I prefer my torture/rape ratio to be leaning a bit heavier on the torture side, but certainly an A rating is good news for fans of such entertainment, and both leading ladies are easy on the eyes.

The direct link to your latest review is in my Homepage URL above.

Bill - of course, that mainstream TV clip of the lovely and gracious Thordis Brandt from "Dragnet '66" is a major turn-on. Very loosely based on ole Harvey Glatman. Not that I admire his productivity but his method was phenominal. Abduct, bind, photograph, rape and kill his victims. Being a huge hogtie fan I find his method stellar. According to the book by Michael Newton, "Rope", during his confession Harvey stated after the rapes he used the same technique on all his victims. Once out in the desert he would place each on her belly, bend her legs as far forward as possible and attach another cord to her ankles. Wrap twice around the neck, kneel in the small of the back and pull the open end of the cord. He stated it took about five minutes to finish the dirty deed. That's what I call torment. The post-mortem posing photos were supposedly destroyed after his trial. Not terribly certain I would like those as I would have kept her in torment in my dungeon :).

Anyway gotta cut and run - stay well all.

(I love it when a helpless women is carried to her fate).

Me too. It's sort of like foreplay. However, the carrying part can enhance the disappointment if the villains end up doing something lame, like locking her fully clothed in a room and leaving her there.

I will be interested to see the official Ralphus review on this one. I'm sure Ralphus enjoyed the politically liberal storyline but I'm less certain how he'll assess the GIMP scenes.

For my part, I was lukewarm on the movie. I'm still not that keen on Amber Bliss. She has a nice, slender body and is a good actress but I don't find her face all that attractive. I did enjoy two scenes, both of which reminded me of similar scenes from South of the Border 5. One scene featured two "goons" -- Jesse Keddings and Jon Obrien -- stripping the clothes off Amber, whose wrists are cuffed behind her back. This reminded me of the Marly Rowe scene from SOB 5. The other scene I really liked was one where Amber is strapped into a chair and receives electric shocks. It was similar to the Lisa Kinkaid scene from SOB 5 and even I will admit Amber really sold this scene.

If I were to compare this movie to other recent releases, I would say Goon Squad is much better than The Jackbooth Job but not as good as The Apartment.

I think people who see the movie will be impressed with the work Rick has put into the DVD. This is his most professional-looking DVD to date, with fancy menus and extras such as a computer-animated patriotic moment, outtakes, and much more. Rick has also produced his own songs for the film. Clearly, he is much more than just a perverted filmmaker (although he is that).

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The movie also has a four-minute trailer for the sequel, Goon Squad 2: Patriot Acts.

As many people will recall, the sequel features the previously unreleased Lisa Kinkaid footage from 2003. In fact, I am very pleased to report that Lisa has shot much more than what we saw in the stills that used to be archived on this site. Lisa looks stunning in the scenes in the trailer and I think the sequel is going to be a real winner.

I would also note that Lisa and Amber appear in some footage to help shape the storyline. What's interesting here is that if I'm reading the copyright material correctly, I think the "storyline" footage was shot in January of last year. If that's correct, then it's reasonable to think Lisa is still around and perhaps we will see more of her in the future. Let's hope so.

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I also managed to rent the Natasha Flade movie, Natasha's Bondage Sex 6. Natasha movies are rare in Canada and this is the first time I have had access to one of the Bondage Sex movies. I thought the film was pretty good, although a bit repetitive. The best scene featured Natasha, completely nude, bound to the back of a couch so that her backside is facing the camera. Isaac inserts a small vibrator into Natasha's butt and Natasha does some great struggling and muffled squealing (she is gagged).

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Thanks to jhlipton, John Galt, Ralphus and Brutus for the feedback on Friday's review. I suspected the movie wouldn't be the kind of thing that appeals to Ralphus or Brutus but others might enjoy it.

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Finally, jhlipton wrote:

Canadian, sometimes I wonder about you.

Only "sometimes"?

Anyone check out the latest Relic Raider movie? I dont know if I like this actress as much as the old one looks-wise and the pictures dont look that great.

Whoa! Somehow I have the feeling the picture you linked isn't the actress in the new Relic raider movie! That looks like cute actress Emmy Rossum sporting a lovely duct tape gag. What's that from? It appears to be a public service ad of some sort, similar to when they gag an actress to bring out the vote or some such nonsense. She looks awfully good; too bad her hands aren't tied behind her.

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A Canadian: Thanks for giving us the first word on Goon Squad; my official review is upcoming. I won't say much about your observations except that you're dead wrong about one of the scenes you mentioned (I don't want to give too much away before I post my review...we can argue about it afterward). Plus that, it's awfully hard to give positive marks to any movie in which you don't think the actress is attractive. Or at least, that's the way I feel. So a lukewarm reception from someone who doesn't think Amber is pretty is to be expected.

Attached is the link to the new relic raider movie/actress.

I saw the movie I mentioned before: Eternal. Not worth watching. Hardly any GIMP content. The idea is interesting, they spent loads of money on locations, bad acting. Really bad acting.

I watched Wife to be Sacrificed again. Has anyone seen this or reviewed it? I love this movie. The GIMP scenes are fabulous in my opinion. I'm attracted to this movie for many reasons. The first being the bondage and wax torture scenes. The second being that the wife wants it. This makes for more of a connection with the character on my part, thus more enjoyment from watching said movie. I can provide more info if called upon to do so. Beginning Delta brain waves...

I watched it and the Flower and Snake movies all about the same time. Wife to be Sacrificed is my least favorite of the four, although I still very much enjoyed it. I think maybe the guy's relationship with the little girl kind of put me off of it just a bit. Nevertheless, those four movies are my favorite Japanese Roman Porno flicks.

Also, having the wife come to accept the punishment and enjoy it was kind of disappointing. Although, come to think of it, all four of the movies were characterized by that same acceptance by the "victim" in the end. Oh well.

But yes, feel free to delve into why you personally liked the movie and how you identified with the wife. Details, please.

So, it seems there's a bit of a disagreement over "Goon Squad." I'm sure we'll have plenty of observations after the official Ralphus review comes out. As for Amber Bliss, I must say that I wasn't immediately taken by her when I watched "The Jackbooth Job," but she quickly grew on me.

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Jane von Detlefson wrote about "Eternal": Hardly any GIMP content. ... Really bad acting.

That's not a good combination under any circumstance. Thanks for the heads-up. A common theme here is the attempt to find the next mainstream GIMP classic. The quest continues.

"Wife to be Sacrificed" has been mentioned on occasion here but I don't think it's been reviewed. I probably might not enjoy it that much for one of the reasons why you liked it: The "victim" wants it. The consensual aspect takes the edge off the menace and helplessness that I so thoroughly enjoy. About the only time I like a consensual scene is when the victim is broken after a very lengthy torture session.

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MAV: In all fairness to Devon Black, the new Relic Raider actress, I don't think the pictures do her justice, especially the one where she has that cross-eyed Karen Black look. She looks better in the trailer IMHO.

DHT: I just caught the tail end of Shallow Ground and was surprised to see it on TV. I noticed that they blurred out Blood Boy's butt. How did the censors handle the two suspension scenes?

Ironman wrote: To be honest, even though "SS GIRLS" is an ultra cheesy production with no GIMP action, I like watching it just for kicks. It's even good to watch with the sound off and replaced with my own musical selections.

Watching with the sound off is definitely a good move. I'm curious about what musical selections you used.

A horrible torture for me is to have to see a romantic comedy. JJ does this to me on occasion as he's a big fan of the romantic comedy. Really, I hate them. I'm so horribly focused in what I like to see that, at home or at the movies, I only like to see films with GIMP content (even just a little bit). My reading has focused on the subject as well. Maybe that's why I've read Gordon four times.

Ralphus: looking forward to the upcoming input on "GOON SQUAD".

I certainly didn't find it with "Tortured Sex Goddess of Ming Dynasty." With a title like that, how can you go wrong? Well, there is only one torture scene, and it involves a girl fastened to a see-saw contraption with a hole cut out of the seat and a fire set up below. Whenever her side of the see-saw descends, she literally is in the "hot seat". (See the cover picture in the URL). What I found problematical about this is that the torturer sits on the other end of the see-saw and gets the same treatment...and LIKES IT! Isn't there something in the GIMP code about the torture being one-way only? Anyway, I didn't find it exciting but maybe others will. You do have to sit through a very bizarre movie to watch it though. A side benefit is that the lead actresses are softly beautiful when naked, as so many Asian women are.

How strange that Wife to be Sacrificed isn't in the Movie Review section. I watched it after I joined the forum, so I'm surprised I didn't take the opportunity to write a review on it.

Yeah, I'm surprised, too. Well, it's certainly never too late. And besides that, you're way behind on your review-writing pace from last year. I think you averaged one every 2 to 3 days or so, and I'm not exaggerating. You posted close to 60 in barely over 4 months last year. Pick up the pace, slowpoke! :)

The funny thing about Wife to be Sacrificed; it's actually considered a classic in most circles, and not just by bondage freaks like us. I've seen it on the playlist in prestigious film festivals, I've seen 4-star reviews from major critics...gosh, it's probably one of the most famous films in Japanese history. Certainly the most well-known in the US as far as Japanese bondage films go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_to_be_Sacrificed#Critical_appraisal

I'm not sure why it gets all that attention, though. It's a good film, to be sure, but there are several Japanese films I think are much better, at least in terms of GIMP material. I took some footage from it, but most was all from the first half. Once she learned to like the abuse, that sort of ruins it for me. Not just in that film, but in any type of bondage film where the action switches over to consensual.

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Jane von Detlefson wrote:

To answer as to why I like Wife to be Sacrificed: For me it's nearly the perfect date movie. It also involves the struggle within the woman to accept that she likes to be tortured. This is something I struggled with before I finally embraced it.

See, I appreciate hearing the feminine side of a theme like that. I understand where you're coming from, but not being a woman, I can't quite get into the whole "woman learns to like it" concept. Consensual bondage is better than no bondage at all, but it just doesn't ring my bell.

I imagine you would probably like a film like Secretary, starring Maggie Gyllenhaal. I liked that film when I saw it; in fact, my then-girlfriend bought it for me. I like Maggie, too. I think she's cute, and she gets naked a lot in it. So why do I have no desire to ever watch it again? Probably because it's a chick flick. It's female bondage fantasy. Now that's a date film. A kinky one, but it probably appeals more to women than men.

Me, I would rather watch a ZFX film...alone. Or if I had a girl with me, I'd probably tie her to a chair and force her to watch with me. "Pay close attention, honey. This is what you'll be getting when we're through watching." Come to think of it, I can't think of better foreplay than that!

This YouTube clip is a nice taste for things to come. I'm desperate to get my hands on it. I would be so grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L1MALLKsw4

Thanks so much! :)

Jane, the world definitely needs more women like you. Countless arguments between man and woman have started because of romantic comedies. Relationships have been destroyed because the main feature on a movie rental night has been "Working Girl." "Notting Hill" continues to tear apart families. And rumor has it that North Korea wants to nuke the world because repeated viewings of "Bridget Jones' Diary" drove Kim Jong Il over the edge. Is this the kind of world we want to leave for our children and grandchildren, where "The Devil Wears Prada" is critically acclaimed while "Hostel 2" gets panned?

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YikYakker: I love creative tortures, and that see-saw sequence seems like a good idea. But yes, having the villainess also getting burned violates Section 5, Article 7 of the GIMP Code. Her pleasure from the pain shifts the focus away from the torment of the victim. One way the filmmakers could have attempted to get around this violation is if the villainess constantly hurled some creative insults and verbal abuse toward the victim.

Normally, my fantasies run to a non-consensual theme. JJ has promised me that he will buy an entire Nazi officer outfit for my Christmas gift (yes, I realize how not PC that is). He will be wearing it, of course. I'm still trying to come up with a closer holiday than that. The thought of the boots alone gives me shivers. And the scratchy wool pants. And...well, you get the picture.

Brutus - Thanks. I think I'll start silkscreening tee shirts with an anti- romantic comedy slogan. I saw Hostel 2 on a date. Could have been better, sigh. Still better than that one about the blond guy and his dog and his girlfriend. I faked sick to get out of that one. The things I have to do.

yesterday my 2 "Lammkeule" groups are killed. *damned...*

my vidcap group is in moment excist - but i don´t no how long.

for safty: members how need pics from my collections - please visit and share quick the relevant screens.

thanks and greets TARL

I'm one of the moderators for Hank Hobbs bondage vidcap group, and one thing you need to be careful for is letting anyone in who doesn't have their age listed in their profile. Hank and I have turned down dozens and dozens of them over the past several months, but if even one slips by, Yahoo will use that as a reason to pull the plug. So protect yourself.

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Brutus: One way the filmmakers could have attempted to get around this violation is if the villainess constantly hurled some creative insults and verbal abuse toward the victim.

Or they could have had the see-saw motorized, with a victim on both ends. That's non-con all the way.

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Jane: Still better than that one about the blond guy and his dog and his girlfriend.

I take it you're not talking about "A Boy and His Dog" (see the URL above). That's a cult classic! The GIMPiness is all implied (alas), but still amusing.

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eeeteee: I almost forgot what ZFX stood for

Zoidberg's Folding Xylophones?

Ralphus, you tease! You tell us Maggie Gyllenhaal gets naked a lot in "Secretary", then you post images from a scene where SHE'S NOT NAKED! (Sorry for shouting). Bad, bad Ralphus!

That's because we're a BONDAGE site and while she does get naked (and looks quite good), she's not naked and tied up at the same time in the film. So, I chose something a bit closer to the theme of our site. Okay, she wasn't tied up in the pic I linked, but at least she was gagged (don't see too many carrot gags, do?).

But just to make you happy, here ya go:

http://ralphus.net/dailypic/maggie1.jpg

Like that? Pussy fur and everything.

By the way, is anyone else using BING? Its Microsoft's search, but it has this cool video search feature that lets you quickly preview video clips.

Just use it and type "bondage" in the search box, and there are thousands of interesting clips you can stream rather easily.

Wait!!? ZFX came out with something new!? Rick! You sly fox, and here I thought you were retired.

It's always amusing when someone stops by after not being here for a while and then states something so obvious that everyone else already knew long ago.

Hey, Paulus, I don't know if you heard, but Obama won the election :)

For the past week, we've been looking at the caps from the new ZFX DVD, Goon Squad. Is it any good? Tune in this weekend for my Official Ralphus Review.

Nice picture of a natural bush, at least her head and pussy hair match. I love to see the blonde who is stripped only to reveal her true colors, namely dark pussy fur. Wonder if they are embarassed as prying eyes look at the contrast.

There is a new straight to DVD flick called The Cell 2. It has a much better plotline than the original as far as Gimpers are concerned. It stars Tessie Santiago who you may remember from "Queen of Swords" and "Good Morning, Miami". She is a true Latin hottie. In this movie she is trying to get in the mind of a psycho who kidnaps women, kills them and then revives them. As part of the plot she evidently had escaped him a year earlier.

All of the scenes are victims tied to a chair. The other victim is Aimee Walden who Tessie is looking for in her visions. The first GIMP scene we see Aimee strapped to a chair and the psycho suffocates her with a plastic bag. She's wearing a basic dress (fairly short) she wears the whole movie. After she suffocates he gives her mouth to mouth and revives her.

The next scene is a flashback with Tessie tied to a chair and the killer injects her with a nerve agent. She shakes violently and passes out. He then injects her with something else and she revives. The next scene is Aimee again strapped to a chair, the psycho shocks her with heart paddles and then shocks her again to revive her. The next scene Aimee is strapped in and given electro shock, the psycho increases the setting until she screams. Then the power goes out.

The final scene is Tessie, but it is interrupted by her rescuer. There are also numerous blink and you miss them scenes. All in all, a pretty good mainstream effort. If the victims would have had less clothing it would have been must see, as it is the victims are attractive, they sell it, and the scenes are reasonably long. I'll give it a B-.

Well nertz to her, then!

Like that? Pussy fur and everything.

Thank you!

The Cell 2. It has a much better plotline than the original as far as Gimpers are concerned. It stars Tessie Santiago who you may remember from "Queen of Swords" and "Good Morning, Miami". She is a true Latin hottie. In this movie she is trying to get in the mind of a psycho who kidnaps women, kills them and then revives them.

Wonder why you don't see that too often. Once you have her where you want her why don't you bring her back? Didn't all those years of being in the Boy Scouts make you "Be Prepared"? Everyone talks of the terror of waiting to die but just think of it you bring her back. Wonder how long before she knows you are going to bring her back again and again? Than how soon for her to think one of these days I'm not going to be brought back?

The Cell 2...stars Tessie Santiago who you may remember from "Queen of Swords" and "Good Morning, Miami". She is a true Latin hottie.

Ah yes, Queen of Swords. Now there was a series with a lot of unrealized GIMP potential. I've been hoping to see Tessie Santiago in something else. Maybe I'll check this one out. Thanks, Elkcreek.

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Anyone seen or heard about a movie called "Hush"? Seems like it might have GIMP potential: A trucker picks up women along the highway and ties them up in the back of the truck.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1093369/

Nothing on Brian's Page or Raffish about it.

Tessie Santiago? Oh man, I do remember her. She was that busty Catherine Zeta-Jones look-a-like who played a sort of female Zorro in "Queen of Swords". She was stunning. The only thing I remember about that show was she was tied to a post and menaced by a bad guy in one of the episodes. I have a small still from it here. Not nearly enough happened, but yeah, that show had lots of unrealized potential.

And now years later, not only is she still around, but she's tied to a chair and tortured? Plus there's plastic bag suffocation and electric shock? Oh yeah, I'll be checking this one out.

The direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2870365/

After an amazingly long downtime, Rick Masters and ZFX are finally back with their first new bondage release in 3 years, Goon Squad, a futuristic tale of a government run amuck after a terrorist attack. In an attempt to combat terrorism, they introduce a covert organization designed to spy on, interrogate and eventually eradicate anyone who might oppose their cause. The organization labels these people as terrorists and gives themselves complete freedom to do whatever they want to them, all with the full backing of the government. Shades of the past administration who trampled our First Amendment rights in the name of "patriotism"? Well, in Rick Masters' vision, we're going quite a few steps beyond waterboarding.

The female star of this one is played by red-headed cutie Amber Bliss, who stole the show in ZFX's last release, The Jackbooth Job. In this one, she plays a college coed who runs a peace activist group online, which naturally arouses suspicion amongst the government goon squad.

In an empty corner room of the university late at night, Amber types out the latest entry to her blog, takes a break and decides to relax by lighting up a joint and listening to some tunes though her headset. She smokes and dances sexily to the music, clearly oblivious to the fact that she is being watched from afar by a bearded gentleman who is getting turned on by her gyrations. The man is played by Masters himself, the head of the covert organization but there posing as a university Dean. As he spies on her and pleasures himself through his jeans, the action is reflected in his eyeglasses as the next sequence begins.

Since Amber is wearing earphones, she is caught completely unawares as a hooded figure (Masters in disguise) creeps up behind her and stuffs a plastic bag over her head, wrestling her to the ground as she passes out unconscious. He strips the girl completely naked and props her up in a chair, then goes to work slicing up her green top.

When we see her next, Amber is awake, gagged with her own panties which have been stuffed in her mouth and tied inside with a strip of cloth that used to be her top. Her hands are tied behind her with another remnant of her destroyed top. Hey, she won't be needing it anymore, right?

With Masters seated in a chair and Amber straddling him, he sticks his dick into her and forces her to writhe in a reverse cowboy over top of him, not my favorite position for a rape scene but visually nice to look at, and because of Masters' threatening, no one could mistake it for being consensual.

He follows this up with a more traditional forced sex attack, bending her over a chair with her hands still bound behind her and buggers her from behind while Amber wails through her gag. I should also add that while the penile penetration is simulated, the dildo being used is as about to close to real as they come, which makes the overall rape scene appear more realistic. He finishes by cumming on her ass.

The next scene is one of my favorites, even though it's unnecessarily truncated and obviously faked. Amber is now tied to a chair (again using torn pieces from her shirt) and still gagged. Masters discovers the crushed out cigarette on the floor, lights it up and puffs on it to get it nice and hot, then proceeds to snuff it out on the girl's bare breast. After lighting it again, he burns her other nipple with it, then twice uses it to burn her pussy.

When we see her again, Amber's body is now covered with phony-looking "cigarette burns" (really just black smudges) which is kind of a rip-off since we never got to see the rest of them applied. I suspect it's because the prop cigarette used in the scene had already burned down so short that they couldn't get in enough shots, but that's just poor planning by the director. The scene is much shorter, and therefore not nearly as much fun as Elaine Payton's similar scene in South of the Border 6, but I still enjoyed the idea behind it. As a smoking fetishist who also has a burning fetish, burning a smokin' babe with her own cigarette is probably the ultimate thrill for me.

This scene dissolves back to the present before the attack as the Dean now enters the room and catches Amber smoking. Yes, the previous scenes were all just his fantasy, but that doesn't lessen their impact. He gives Amber a scolding and the embarrassed girl apologizes and puts out the joint, only to light it back up again after he leaves. Oooh, bad girl! I have the feeling you'll be tortured for that later...hee hee.

In the following scene, Masters calls together two of his government henchmen (played by ZFX veterans John O'Brien and Jesse Keddings) to give them their latest assignment. Turns out they have a file on Amber and consider her peace activist activities as a cover for her being a terrorist spy. She is to be brought in and interrogated until she gives up the name of her contact in the terrorist organization.

"Can we play with this one?," one of the henchmen asks.

"Of course", replies Masters with a sly smile. "Go get her, boys!"

What follows is a takedown in classic ZFX fashion. Amber is grabbed from behind and subdued with a line around her neck, choking her until she's unconscious. She is swiftly cuffed with her hands behind her and her ankles are also secured with cuffs, leaving in her in a hogtied position. A pump gag is secured around her head and inflated inside her mouth as she comes to and starts squealing. A blindfold and earphones are added to cut off sight and sound. And as a finishing touch, her entire body is then zipped up into a large clothing bag and whisked away into a van to take her to her destination. The fun is just beginning.

The men bring in their neatly wrapped package and present her to Masters. She is "unwrapped", so to speak, as they take her out of the bag and remove her blindfold and gag. Masters questions her, and of course she denies any knowledge, so he instructs the men to work her over.

The cuffs are removed from her ankles, but her hands are left cuffed behind her. While laughing and making threatening comments, the men strip off Amber's jeans, pull up her top and proceed to fondle and molest their captive. One of the men forcibly fucks her while the other sucks on her pert nipples. One thing I really liked about this scene is that Amber is constantly handgagged to muffle her screams while the other man sexually attacks her. Midway through the rape, they switch off so that each man has a shot at her pussy, while the other forces her to suck him off. Both men orgasm, one on her body while the other explodes on her face, leaving her face streaked with cum. All in all, an excellent rape scene.

Immediately after violating her, they flip her over and cuff her ankles back together and she is again hogtied with chains hung from the rafters above. They leave her alone to cry and contemplate her fate.

When we see Amber again, she is being lowered onto a chair onto which is attached a pair of nasty-looking accessories: a big black studded dildo for her pussy and a smaller but no less imposing silver probe for her ass (Where does he get those wonderful toys?). Once Amber is impaled to the seat, her wrists are handcuffed to the armrests and her ankles are buckled in to the legs of the chair. Electro suction cups are attached to her nipples. She is gagged with a cumbersome red doughnut apparatus which, unfortunately, obscures a large portion of her face and makes it difficult to enjoy her suffering. She is interrogated and shocked repeatedly for several minutes.

This scene should have been great, but mostly misfires because Amber's reactions to being shocked are not nearly as vocal as they should be. More often than not, she's relatively silent, not exactly what one would expect if you're having electrical current run though all those sensitive areas. I would expect a lot more screaming, moaning and crying in a scenario like that. There are technical enhancements Masters uses to simulate the shocking effect, including a vibrating effect for her pussy and animated sparking effects, but what it really needed was some dubbed-in screams to give the illusion some extra life. Compare this scene with (again) Elaine Payton's enthusiastically noisy turn in South of the Border 6's electro sequence and this one pales even more.

However, the film rebounds in its final sequence, the best scene of the movie. Amber is bound standing naked, balancing on one foot with her other leg tied off the ground and off to the side. She is ballgagged and her arms are tied over her head with rope (who would have guessed that it would take over an hour to see actual rope bondage in a ZFX movie?). Plain and simple, she looks great in this position.

Her interrogators approach with a stun gun and she is given several jolts about her tits and directly onto her pussy, and she doesn't forget to scream this time! It's an intense and totally convincing illusion, again with subtle animation effects that make it look like the taser is really hitting her skin. After lots of crying and suffering, they take out Amber's gag and she gives them the name they're looking for (hint: this will ultimately introduce Lisa Kinkaid's character into the sequel). She pleads for them to let her go, but they simply stick the gag back in her mouth and leave the sobbing girl alone to hang there helplessly.

There's also a nearly 5-minute long preview for the sequel (with both Amber and Lisa Kinkaid), and I have to say it looks amazing! We're talking (among other things) anal bondage rape, burning with hot metal, barbed wire bondage, electric shock and injection with hot sauce! ZFX sequels are almost always better than the original film the precedes them for some reason, and this one could follow course. There's some really twisted things going on.

The DVD is loaded with some nice extras, too. In addition to the preview, there's a slideshow, outtakes, some actual 8mm footage of JFK filmed by Rick's father, and even a short poser animation sequence.

The movie works on a number of levels. Amber Bliss is sweetly attractive; not traditionally beautiful but slender and pretty with no tattoos, and she's perfectly cast as the peace-loving coed. Plus that, I have a thing for redheads. All 3 actors playing the bad guys have done this many times before and they know exactly what is required for a strong villain. And they all give very good performances, which gives the film the edge it needs.

After seeing nothing new from ZFX for such a long time, it's easy to forget just how effective his shows are when it comes to bringing nonconsensual fantasies to life. The time away hasn't blunted his creative edge one bit. As is nearly always the case, Masters again delivers the goods. In a way, watching this movie was almost the equivalent of eating comfort food. It's like hearing from an old friend and discovering he's just the way you remembered him. Here's to old times, and it's great to have ZFX back to enjoy some brand new ones.
My grade: B+

jhlipton: Zoidberg's Folding Xylophones?

Now everybody likes Zoidberg!!

Sorry - couldn't resist.

Thos. Merchant

But one thing I was surprised about is that the review doesn't mention any whipping scenes!? ZFX movies have always had amazing whipping scenes! I'm not too big on the electric shock scenes...they don't have anywhere near the impact of a good flogging.

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Elkcreek: Thanks for the info on "The Cell 2." I always thought the original movie with Jennifer Lopez should have won an award for "most wasted GIMP potential."

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Ralphus: Since Amber is wearing earphones, she is caught completely unawares as a hooded figure (Masters in disguise) creeps up behind her and stuffs a plastic bag over her head, wrestling her to the ground as she passes out unconscious. He strips the girl completely naked and props her up in a chair

See that? First thing he does is get her damn clothes off. There's a guy who passed Kidnapping 101!

Midway through the rape, they switch off so that each man has a shot at her pussy, while the other forces her to suck him off. Both men orgasm, one on her body while the other explodes on her face, leaving her face streaked with cum.

Dayum! It might worth getting this flick just for this scene!

Her interrogators approach with a stun gun and she is given several jolts about her tits and directly onto her pussy, and she doesn't forget to scream this time!

Yay!!!!

JR

I've been away on a long absence, but want to post a quick thank you to Ralphus for the new review of GOON SQUAD.

I definitely feel it will be worth the money to buy it. Just for the bagging scene alone, in my opinion -(being a breathplay fanatic).

Once I've seen the flick, I promise to post a more in depth review of my own.

OK - Finally we get the excellent, official Ralphus review of the new ZFX. When Rick announced what the general storyline was going to be, I said that it sounded well and truly up my alley, and from Ralphus' review, I have to say I was spot on. Amber is a cutie, but I have to admit that like many others, I'm even more excited about the looooong awaited return of our own (we can say that, right?) Lisa Kinkaid.

As for the current movie - interrogation scenes always warm my heart, and especially when there are electricity and cigarettes involved. The 'non selling' of the electric scene might just about be a deal breaker for me, though, although I'll have to see the scene to decide. The fact is, electro scenes depend entirely on how well the actress acts out her distress, purely because there's nothing external going on (like, say, a whip flying, or red hot irons meeting skin, etc). And film-makers - don't bother with the phony 'Emperor from Star Wars' special effects. It doesn't reflect reality, and always makes me think more of early morning cartoons.

Having said that, Rick set the absolute standard for electro scenes in various parts of the SOB series, especially that one with Kelly McKay (droool) - perhaps a high water mark not only for Gimp films, but any intense film. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Phony cigarette scenes are always a problem as well. I don't know much about film making, but surely there's a way to have a prop cigarette that leaves a mark resembling a burn when it's taken away, and that has a tip that looks glowing. Even a goofy, quickly edited 'special effect' might do the job. I'm going on the SOB scene where Lisa (when she's just been arrested) having cigarettes that not only aren't lit, but clearly have never been lit, put out on her. Like Ralphus, I do like the idea of using her own cigarette on her.

As for the extras - JFK footage? Is there any context to this, or just something Rick thought would be cool?

There was a time when I could have easily rented that movie, but living in New York during the puritanical reign of Rudolph Guiliani, a lot of adult vid stores near me converted to family friendly fare.

Thank God he flamed out as a Presidential nominee.

The 'non selling' of the electric scene might just about be a deal breaker for me, though, although I'll have to see the scene to decide.

Whether that scene worked is apparently up to the person watching it. The only other person here to report on it in any detail was A Canadian, and he thinks that Amber sold the scene, which is just the opposite of my interpretation. She was acting, really trying to give a performance, as opposed to just sitting there. I just felt the scene needed a lot more screaming. Rick as the director should have coached her more and told her to scream like she's in pain. "Okay, Amber...I want to hear you suffer!" Didn't happen. It wasn't a bad scene, it just needed more edge.

As for the cigarette burning scene, I give it an A for the effort, but maybe a B- for execution. I love the fact that Rick even attempts a fantasy scene like that. I mean, who else even tries to do burning scenes? That said, he's never really pulled it off realistically, not really. The cigarette burns in this one and even in SOB-6 still looked like black smudges. Maybe he just doesn't want it to look real because it would be too gruesome? That's something maybe he can answer himself on the forum.

I suppose it would logistically draw attention to itself in later scenes if the girl already has burns on her chest from the previous segment. For instance, the burning scene in SOB-6 is the final scene of that movie, and all the cigarette burns are gone from Elaine Payton's body when we see her next in SOB-7, which starts only minutes after Part 6 ends. But in the case of Goon Squad, the burning scene was a fantasy sequence anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered if they disappeared from Amber anyway since that scene technically wasn't even real. So no reason why he couldn't have made them look a bit more real in this case.

Maybe I'm obsessing too much about this. After all, the movie as a whole rocked. But dammit, these things are important! :)

Seriously, great to see a new Ralphus review to a new ZFX movie. It's like old times!

It was just so odd to talk about this subject in public. I sometimes bring it up at parties to shock strangers, but this was different; I felt free.

It's no secret that I don't share the same affection that Ralphus and others have for Amber Bliss. Even if I were feeling generous, I don't think I would have gone higher than a B- grade for this one. I hope we hear from others as more people get a chance to see the movie.

It will also be interesting to get more feedback on the electro-shock scene. As I said about a week ago, I thought Amber did a good job in that scene. But perhaps I had lower expectations for Amber because I'm not one of her fans.

Anyway, it was an excellent assessment of a warm-up movie that will help people prepare for this year's big attraction -- the sequel, Goon Squad 2: Patriot Acts with our very own (I feel comfortable saying that) Lisa Kinkaid.

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Killer Inside Me update: The Associated Press recently ran a story on the Oklahoma filming of The Killer Inside Me, the Jessica Alba film about a psycho killer that we hope will have some GIMP potential. Unfortunately, this particular story doesn't tell GIMPers much one way or the other.

Also, it has been confirmed that Jessica won't be charged for that recent shark-poster foolishness in Oklahoma.

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The Halfway House is an interesting twist on the WIP genre. Troubled young girls (who really look more like young women) are sent there to be straightened out by the priest and nun who run the place. Of course, there are the requisite lesbian trysts, catfights and shower scenes. But it's all done in a campy, fun style.

So what's the interesting twist? Well, in the basement, behind a steel door, is a tentacled monster who requires "nourishment". Naturally, its favorite meal is "hot babes tied spread-eagled to the basement floor wearing nothing but panties" (I like this guy's taste). We get three fairly lengthy scenes of said babes squirming and screaming and struggling to get loose, only to get that wild-eyed look I love so well when that steel door opens, and the tentacles wrap around their succulent bodies and drag them to their doom.

But wait, there's more. You also get not one, but two babes bent over the priest's office desk getting a bare-assed paddling (another gets the same treatment, but we only see the marks later in the shower). Yes, I know we've discussed the problems of mixing humor and GIMPness, but I think these folks got it right, and I had a good time watching it. Sure the acting is mostly subpar, and the special effects aren't great, but for a cheap, intentionally shlocky horror film, it really has what its audience is looking for.

It's a grade-C film, but there's more GIMPness here than I've seen in a lot of other tripe. So I'll give it a solid C+, and recommend it for you GIMPers who occasionally would like some lighter fare.

I have never been able to talk about this stuff with anyone in public or in person before.

Anyway, does anyone watch The Shield? I was watching season 4 on DVD and there's a scene where the former policy captain steals a video tape from evidence that depicts a girl being raped. He watches the video and masturbates to it. It's supposed to be because he himself was raped by two guys who forced him to blow one of them at gunpoint. I'm not sure where they're going with this in the series though or if they'll bring it up again.

I do have a question that Rick Masters may have already answered. The website SexAndSubmission shows women in bondage having sex, why then does ZFX continue to use simulated sex with dildos? I used to think it was for legal reasons, but this seems to no longer be the case.

Just asking.

It would be pretty awesome to have an actual face to face conversation with someone about the nasty movies I like to watch. I mean, I have lots of friends that I discuss films with online (most of whom I've met through this forum), but it's pretty rare for me to get to actually talk to someone like that in person. Back in the old days, I used to rent ZFX videos and stop by a buddy's house before I had to take them back and we would watch them together. Bonding...over bondage! We used to make crude comments while watching the action unfold, even cheering sometimes when the bad guy did something particularly nasty to his victim. Ah, good times...

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YikYakker wrote:

enjoyed reading your review of Goon Squad, but I was especially impressed by the inclusion of jpegs. Is this going to set some new standard for movie review submissions - "complete with jpegs and clips and audio commentary from the director"? :).

It's not likely I'll always include pictures with my reviews, but this was the first new ZFX in 3 years and I wanted to make my review a little more special. I had all those new ZFX caps, and I've seen other review pages online that included pictures, so I decided to give it a try. I wasn't sure how to do it, so I had Scribbler write the HTML for me and I just filled in with the pictures.

If anybody else wants to spice up their upcoming reviews with pics, you're certainly free to do so. You have to have a knowledge of HTML though. If not, drop me an e-mail beforehand I can show you the ropes.

BTW, you mentioned audio commentary from the director. How awesome would that be if Rick would do that sometime? I know that Dan Hawke did an audio commentary in one of his DVDs and it was very interesting. I love the behind the scenes stuff in movies anyway. The outtakes in all the new ZFX release DVDs are always fascinating to me.

Also, thanks for the review of The Halfway House. You guys can download vidcaps of the movie on Hank Hobbs' Yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hanksvidcaps/). They are in the Files section (filed under "The" for some reason, rather than "Halfway"). Lots of tied-up naked ladies, sounds like a fun film.

The direct link for your review is in my Homepage URL above.

I discovered Ashley back in 2003 when she did a pair of shoots for Kink.com (specifically, Hogtied and WiredPussy). The Hogtied shoot was especially entertaining because the rigger was really pushing her past her limits. Yum.

She also did a few DungeonCorp shoots, but they were much tamer. Alas. I was smitten with her as a bound and helpless victim, but she has moved into being a dom lately. She's still hot but, you know, there's just something about a helpless victim that is more exciting.

She has her own web site, AshleyFires.com, but there's very little bondage stuff there any more. You can see some stills from The Halfway House on her Yahoo Group, here, where she is being stripped until she is wearing only panties and tied spread eagled on her back in the basement where the monster eats her. It was a nice scene, albeit far too short, and I would have to concur that C+ is an eminently fair (if not slightly generous) grade for the movie.

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Ralphus: Excellent review of The Goon Squad. I thought the accompanying images were especially cool. A new standard for reviews.

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Jane von Detlefson: You know, there was something enticing surreal about your tale of the conversation with the brother of the girlfriend of the son's friend. It sounds like the beginning of a porn movie. Or a torture porn movie. Where it turns out the son is a chip off the old block and he befriends young people and then lures them into an innocuous-sounding conversation with the libertine girlfriend of his dom father that ends in bondage sex or bondage violence (or, you know, preferably both) involving the unsuspecting girlfriend (and the father's libertine girlfriend, because she enjoys being dominated and tortured as well) while the extraneous guys helplessly watch or succumb to their baser instincts and join in. You should work on that. As an RFPIX movie idea, I mean....

First off, thanks to Ralphus for the nice review. It definitely adds a lot of flair and value to punctuate it with pictures. Bravo!

IMHO Amber is hot as a pistol, but we all have our differing tastes. For me, her look really works. I was very pleased with her performance. Your mileage may vary.

The burning/ fantasy sequence was a bit shorter than maybe some would like and the burns not as gruesome as they could have been. I agree it could have been better executed.

As far as the electrical/chair scene, Amber was more yelping and convulsing. I always coach actresses on sound but sometimes I am not able to get exactly what I'm after. Still, I think the scene came together fairly well.

There is no whipping in this movie, as I said before, I wanted to do things more in line with a modern dungeon. It may not be the movie for those who are really into whipping. If you like electro or asphyxia its probably right up your alley.

Graham: The sex vs. simulated sex is a complicated legal and moral question. From a legal perspective, Sex and Submission are doing some things that are different from what I'm doing from a story/scene standpoint. It's a legal fine line.

There is also a moral issue and that centers on disease. The industry in California has mechanisms in place for rigorous testing. Its not fool proof, but they have had a pretty good track record thus far. I don't have that at my disposal. Of course they just had an HIV outbreak.

I may eventually do hardcore but I would either have to shoot from the existing pool of California performers or stick to couples already having sex. I would probably have to change they way I shoot movies from a story standpoint with male-female hardcore bondage. Might happen, hard to say though. If I was in Cali it would be a lot easier to do.

JFK footage: Someone had asked about this. I used some old 8mm film in the title roll and included the entire piece, brief though it is, on the DVD.

I hope everyone eventually gets a chance to see Goon Squad and I would like to thank those that put their money down already. Things are tight right now for most of us and we are feeling the pinch, even the porn biz. Your support is greatly appreciated.

I am still working on Goon Squad 2, it's still looking like a September release. I'll keep you updated if it happens sooner.

Peace,

Rick

With that in mind, let's have another super fantastic colossal GIMP POLL and see what the rest of you think. Without further adieu....

GIMP POLL:
Based on what you've seen and read so far, what's your opinion of the new ZFX release Goon Squad?

Your anecdote about watching ZFX films with your friend reminds me of my adolescence when a group of us got together at my friend's house and we watched his parent's collection of porn and bondage films. His parents actually encouraged us to watch these things. In fact, his parents made their own amateur bondage porn. I never watched that, it would have too weird. Now that I think about it, the whole thing was really weird to begin with. Especially when his mom baked cookies for us while we watched. True story.

If I answer the poll, will I automatically be entered as a victim? In RFPIX's next release I'm forced to whip Gabrielle, but I prefer being the victim.

John Galt: My life is surreal. I like it that way. Your idea for a torture porn movie is enticing. And I like being labeled a libertine.

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The movie Hush concerns a couple who nearly get into an accident with a truck on a rainy "motorway" (as they say in the UK where this was filmed). As the back door of the truck briefly opens, the boyfriend catches a (very) quick glimpse of a caged naked babe in the back screaming for help. The couple pursue, only to have the girlfriend disappear at a rest stop. The rest of the movie involves the guy's attempt to follow the truck and rescue his chick (and any other captive babes).

It's a very gripping suspense flick, and very well done. In fact, so talented are the film-makers that they managed to take this premise and deliver not one GIMP-worthy scene. None. Zip. Nada. The nudity is implied, not overt, as such scenes are darkly-lit. And the babes are caged, but not bound (unless you count the fully-clothed one who wears a looong ankle chain. If you're looking for a good thriller, check it out. But if you're after GIMP material, pass on this one. Movie grade: B. GIMP grade: F.

Ralphus has done a really good job with the reviews and I think it has made a difference in "sparking" my interest.(pun intended)

Its been a long time, but really there has not been much to say. Other than a fixation with Aya Sugimoto, (Flower & Snake) nothing has captured my imagination in the subjects held dear on this board (BTW has anyone seen the out-takes on "Beyond Flower & Snake" which seems to be available only in Asia, inquiring minds want to know?)

But with a new ZFX offering and Lisa Kinkaid in the sequel, things look promising. Any chance of a Lisa screen-cap Rick? Its been a long time away from the delectable LK.)

Jane- Love reading your perspectives! Keep posting (I would like it better if you came out of your films alive though...) Flogging- excellent, Snuff, not so. But that is just one viewer.

At any rate, I'll take your word that it's a "gripping suspense flick", but I don't see the point of making a film with a premise like that and then totally not delivering on the all-important exploitation scenes. I sound like a broken record here, but what is wrong with filmmakers today? I'll grant this one a pardon since it's made in the UK and I know they're a very censoring country (certain bondage imagery can send you to jail), so maybe that had something to do with it. Still, what a pisser.

The direct link for your review is in my Homepage URL above.

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Jane von Detlefson: So the guy likes Jess Franco, and he's excited about seeing Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals? That's sort of where I got started, when I worked at a video store and discovered all kinds of GIMP films were available on home video if you knew the right places to look. I think Barbed Wire Dolls was my first Franco film, and it was fairly easy to notice because it had a great box cover. How could you not want to check out a movie with a box cover like this? And if I recall, it did get rented out...a lot. No surprise, huh? A lot of perverts out there.

Anyway, next time you see him, tell him about our forum. Just tell him it's Ralphus.net; it's easy to remember.

Your story about watching bondage and porn films at a friend's house as an adolescent must have been freaky. Something about that just screams out...wrong, wrong, wrong. I mean, kids should be kids, they shouldn't be watching adult material. You're only young and innocent for a short time, why rush things?

Still, part of growing up is preparing for adulthood, and part of me sort of wishes I had liberal parents when I was growing up. I was raised in a very conservative, Christian household, and yet I had a mostly unhappy childhood. I was socially awkward through my school years, never dated much, and I always felt that deep down, there was something "wrong" with me. And when I first discovered that bondage material existed, there was a lot of guilt involved and I could never discuss my dark desires with anyone. I'll never forget one day when I was moving out and my mom went to my closet and stumbled upon one of my bondage magazines...Oh My God. She knew then that her son was nothing but a filthy degenerate. Let's just say she didn't bake cookies for me then.

It really wasn't until I grew up and found the Internet, and specifically this forum, that I discovered I wasn't as weird as I thought. Indeed, if I ever pass on prematurely, I hope this site is still around after I'm gone for future generations of perverts and sick fucks to congregate.

It really depends on if my local video store carries it. Once the Hitler Youth left office (Bush) my local store got a little more liberal again with what they carry and they definitely carry ZFX fliks so they probably will do Goon Squad.

Amber looks hot. And Rick is an artist and his films almost always are excellent. So I definitely want to see it.

Liquor-in-the-front, Poker in the rear

PS, this post is made in memory of Neda. God bless her, and God destroy the evil little satans who run that country.

So are you British? I did a search of Hush and it looks like it's not even released in the US as of this date. It appears to be released in the UK right now...and not on DVD there until July 20. Not available here at all. Nothing on VideoETA as far as a release date. Where did you see it?

No, I'm 100% American, born and bred. In fact, I had a little bit of trouble with the heavy accent of the actors, a northern-England style (I'm told) that sounds a bit like Australian. I actually found Hush by accident on a streaming video site called StageVu, which requires the Divx player.

I for one am genuinely going to miss Farrah Fawcett.

Although she wasn't a bondage star in movies, she was in my fantasies. I thought she was a sex symbol who lived up to her reputation in the 70's.

She had it all. A body, face, smile and hair that made many of my underage male friends want to play the bad guy on "Charlie's Angels".

In this forum, I can discuss how I wished in the movie version of "Extremities" her scenes were more graphic because they would have provided a vicarious thrill. Some man having his way with this bombshell.

She unleashed that same predatory effect on men in real life. I remember in the late 70's reading in a tabloid that some man had written to Farrah with the explicit threat that he would rape her if he ever saw her alone. I guess she boosted her security after that. I don't blame her. I don't mind rape as a fantasy. In reality, it's a crime and shouldn't be condoned.

I also have to say, at that time, when there was buzz to film Irving Wallace's book "The Fan Club" about four men who kidnap a movie star and hide her in an isolated cabin taking turns raping her, she and Bo Derek were the two most often mentioned actresses for the role. It's a pity, in a lot of ways, that film never happened, especially with her in it.

I will never understand the appeal of Marilyn Monroe, but Farrah Fawcett needs no explanation for me.

Bye Farrah. You are truly an angel now.

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Rest in peace, Farrah Fawcett. I too had fantasies about Farrah. It was so thrilling when she finally did an all-too-brief nude scene in Saturn 3. What a babe. Rhonda Jo Petty owed a lot to Farrah, since her initial claim to fame was that she was a Farrah Fawcett look-alike porn star (even though I never saw the resemblance past the feathered hair style). But it was kind of nice watching her and imagining she was the real Farrah doing all those wonderful nasty things.

As I was reading Vince's post, I was thinking what a shame it was that Ralphus couldn't find a picture of a Farrah look-alike bound to a metal gurney being threatened by a post-surgery and masked Michael Jackson. I was thinking that Jackson bore a striking resemblance to the decapitated doctor with the mannequin head in that scene from Re-Animator. Especially, you know, with the surgical mask in place.

Well, 70s and 80s pop culture sure took a double hit yesterday.

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g-in-o: You sent me straight to IMDB for a look-up of Aya Sugimoto. Sadly, if there is a Beyond Flower and Snake, it seems that Aya Sugimoto is not the star. What a pity. But definitely de-cloak again to let us know if the movie gets released and becomes available. I was also a big fan of the first two, as well as the 1974 version.

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Poll Question: Hmm. I'll most likely buy the latest ZFX movie, since renting it is problematic. Not sure how big a hurry I am in. ZFX movies are incredible phenomena in their own right, but I'm more in a "reality" bondage-sex/role play phase right now and ZFX is still mostly simulated. I also found Rick's discussion of the pros and cons of filming actual penetration scenes very enlightening. It makes me thankful that there is a place called "California."

Good news if you are a fan of Aya Sugimoto in the Flower & Snake movies. There were two "outake" DVDs made. One is easy to get from the Candles Room. It features scenes from "Flower & Snake II Paris" and is called "Bondage Game" (at least through the Candles Room site: http://www.thecandlesroom.com/sugimoto.htm (click on R-44) Most of its behind the scenes stuff, a few different angels, longer takes etc, but its Aya Sugimoto, naked and tied up. Whats not to love?

The first one was "Behind Flower & Snake" http://www.fivestarlaser.com/movies/14510.html I have not seen it though, but would like to.

Goon Squad-I'm a big fan of the closing AOH electro scene. Amber looks great and does an awesome job.

FYI-I just ordered a custom video where the model in the linked pic should be strung up, beaten, and tasered. It'll take a couple of months but hopefully it'll turn out alright especially given the similar vids that "studio" has done. I'll try to share when I get something but I still dont know how to cap or rip clips from WMV vids.

Poll question:

I'll be downloading "Goon Squad." With the kids getting older and snooping around, it's tough having bondage DVDs mailed here.

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Rick wrote: I may eventually do hardcore but I would either have to shoot from the existing pool of California performers or stick to couples already having sex. I would probably have to change the way I shoot movies from a story standpoint with male-female hardcore bondage.

If I could add my 2 cents here, I certainly hope you would NOT change the way you shoot movies just for the sake of showing real hardcore sex. It seems the only way producers can create hardcore bondage rape scenes is if there is a huge emphasis on consent, with those interviews seen on Kink.com, etc. The storylines you use are what separates ZFX from the rest, and are a key reason why I prefer your movies.

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Bill Zebub: Nice trailer. I love ballgags in mainstream movies, although they often aren't tight enough. "Candyman 3" comes to mind.

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Paulus: There's a number of rapes in "The Shield" but unfortunately, we usually get to only see the aftermath. The video footage that Aceveda stole was an exception. I won't give too much away, but Aceveda's trauma from the forced blow job leads to some semi-GIMP action later on. (I'm slowly compiling a list from that show and other TV series for the Rape database when it returns.)

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YikYakker and g-in-o: Thanks for the "Halfway House," "Hush" and Aya Sugimoto.

Also, I agree that there is no calling for ZFX to have realistic sex at the expense of what you do well.

I also hear that her latest, "Johnen" has bondage elements, but it would probably be too much to expect it to be as intense as the two F&S movies.

Methinks Ms Sugimoto has more than a casual interest in Gimpworthy topics.

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Bill Zebub's trailer: Nice-looking women, but all it looks like to me is pretty much nothing but tit-fondling. I can think of a lot better things to do with a tied-up naked chick than just squeeze her tits. There did seem to be a hint of possible electro torture, though. Hard to tell. Seeing as this is a sequel to Kill the Scream Queen (the only watchable film in Zebub's repertoire), I'm crossing my fingers on this one, but knowing Zebub's track record, I'm not holding my breath.

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ZFX thinking about doing hardcore: Let Rick think about it all he wants, as long as he ultimately decides against it. I'm not a freak; I like bondage and sex together, but if it means he becomes a clone of Sex and Submission, forget it. What makes ZFX special is the nonconsensuality of their themes. S&S makes a special point of alerting their viewers that what they are seeing is totally consensual. Sorry, hardcore doesn't mean better. Don't fix what isn't broken.

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Mainstream Movie Discovery: The 2003 film Warrior Queen (not to be mistaken for the 1987 cheesy softcore Gladiator flick) is, believe it or not, a Masterpiece Theatre production. I rented it from Netflix, and I'm not sure why. I think I was looking up the 1987 movie to see if it was on DVD and might have mistakenly put the wrong DVD in my queue. Anyway, I'm flipping through it, not expecting anything, when there's a scene that made me go WHOA!

It takes place back in the times of the Romans. The main female character, Boudica (played by Alex Kingston) confronts one of the Roman leaders, and he reacts by having her and her 2 comely daughters brought outside by the Roman soldiers. To teach her a lesson, they tie down her daughters spreadeagled and a line of men take turns raping them. They bind and gag Boudica. As she watches her daughters enduring their agonies, she is whipped. No actual nudity but a fairly graphic scene. I was glad to have found this one.

What makes it better? Well, early on, they introduced us to one of Boudica's daughters, Isolda, and I stopped fast-forwarding and took a look. Very attractive. So it was a pleasure to later see her tied down and raped. It wasn't until I got to the end and looked at the closing credits that I discovered who she was. Emily Blunt! Up and coming star and Anne Hathaway's co-star in The Devil Wears Prada. Kind of nice to discover she had a genuine GIMP scene in her past resume.

Fans of Oslo's old WSIM site are probably familiar with the 1967 Hammer production "The Viking Queen," which was VERY loosely based on the true story of Boudicca. For a mainstream movie from more than 40 years ago, it has a pretty hot whipping scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZC_NknTROI

And I also liked that they lingered over the aftermath, where they're both moaning and weeping in their bondage while the injured mother, who's clearly in quite a bit of pain after being beaten, gets up and tries to comfort them as she takes off the straps from their wrists and ankles. Plus that, Emily Blunt is one of the daughters and she's young and quite attractive (and only 20 years old when she did this...her first movie). I put a still of her in my Homepage URL.

Scot: Now THAT's a whipping scene! I bought that movie on VHS years ago just to see that scene, and it's nice to see it again in all its widescreen glory. I liked how they suspended her by her wrists so that she rocked back and forth after each blow. This is how whipping scenes SHOULD be done.

Ralphus: You have good taste in whipped women! The older mainstream stuff can actually be more titillating than today's explicit BDSM/fetish videos because the nudity had to be implied. Sometimes it IS better when something is left to the imagination.

A couple of other nice scenes are the ones of Luciana Paluzzi in "One-Eyed Soldiers". . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fekUWO8Ztsg

. . . and Antonella Lualdi in "The Mongols." Although you wonder why they didn't get her long hair out of the way -- kind of defeats the purpose.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7069406677707494205&ei=8KBJSryHLpfoqgOvvYHEBg&q=mongols+whipping+scene&hl=en

Here's a whipping clip for the group

http://www.powershotz.com/montezcommercial.wmv

Love watching those butt cheeks ripple!

One of my favorite whipping scenes in a mainstream movie was in "She" (above URL.) I don't know why since there's no nudity nor gags. Maybe it was the sound effects, which resemble those in ZFX movies.

The whipping in "She" is pretty fake, but Sandahl Bergman was so friggin' hot! And the other Amazon chick (Quin Kessler) wasn't bad either. Wonder what ever happened to her.