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bleumune wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:13 pm It's hard to compare with your work, because I think you're more artistically inclined that I am. I still remain a left-brained engineer . . . :lol:
Hey, I'm an engineer too!!! :P *sort of* We just work with different devices. Yours are mechanical, mine, more ...human. :)
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Now the countess fights her interrogators as they try to secure her to the Rack . . .
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I love that her areola and nipples are swollen as should be when gimp is about to be tortured.
Not every poser program allows artist to create that. Will Burner
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wjhk93 wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:11 am I love that her areola and nipples are swollen as should be when gimp is about to be tortured.
Not every poser program allows artist to create that. Will Burner
I didn't know that. I just know that Daz allows it, and I envision a young heroine would have turgid nipples when she's (a) sexually aroused, or (b) in dire terror!
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The interrogators have the countess almost secured to the rack, and the fear starts to replace anger for the captive noblewoman. Mortification also begins to play a part, since she can no longer cover up her feminine charms with her hands and arms, an emotion the cruel nun immediately recognizes.

"Don't worry about being unclothed, your ladyship," she tells the squirming captive as she holds the straining arm in place. "Soon, other things - like unbearable pain! - will make you forget about being nude in front of us . . ."

There's a reason this nun was included to aid the torturer in the interrogation - she really enjoys such work!
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wjhk93 wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:11 am Not every poser program allows artist to create that. Will Burner
It's a function (a morph) of a figure loaded, not a poser program. Unless you work with really old figures, like V3 or older you should be able to access those nipple morph that allows you all kind of shapes, level of erection, etc.

Some of the newer figure require to buy separately the morphs, in various packages. Even Poser in their latest figure,La Femme start to follow the same model like DAZ, you get the figure for free but you gotta buy the morph packs. I liked it more when you buy the figure fully loaded.
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doe.1971 wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:03 pm Even Poser in their latest figure,La Femme start to follow the same model like DAZ, you get the figure for free but you gotta buy the morph packs. I liked it more when you buy the figure fully loaded.
How much do Poser characters cost these day, doe? The latest Daz Genesis 9 characters look like they range from $20 to $40, though you can find some on sale for as low as $5 (but those usually aren't as full-featured as the more expensive characters - you get what you pay for). In any case, I'm not really buying much these days. I invested in more expensive Genesis 8 characters (though I put them in my Wishlist and waited for them to go on sale - though they never went down to $5!), and those characters make my images look much better.

If I was younger, I might give Poser another try - you're a persuasive advocate! But I'm already too far up the Daz learning curve, with lots of $$ invested in Daz 3D models of all varieties - clothes, poses, expressions, scenes, etc. I guess I'll just have to stumble along as best I can . . . :roll:
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bleumune wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:29 pm How much do Poser characters cost these day, doe? The latest Daz Genesis 9 characters look like they range from $20 to $40, though you can find some on sale for as low as $5 (but those usually aren't as full-featured as the more expensive characters - you get what you pay for). In any case, I'm not really buying much these days. I invested in more expensive Genesis 8 characters (though I put them in my Wishlist and waited for them to go on sale - though they never went down to $5!), and those characters make my images look much better.
Normally they all come included full feature in the original package, all except the latest La Femme. One can also buy third party figures up to G6 from DAZ or the great Dawn from HiveWire, something like 30 bucks full price. For La Femme they sell the morphs in packages of 10..20 bucks, some better, some worse.
bleumune wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:29 pm If I was younger, I might give Poser another try - you're a persuasive advocate! But I'm already too far up the Daz learning curve, with lots of $$ invested in Daz 3D models of all varieties - clothes, poses, expressions, scenes, etc. I guess I'll just have to stumble along as best I can . . . :roll:
Gosh, no ... far from me ... the effort to get over the curve would be justified only if you have specific needs (I like large crowds for example, DAZ wouldn't handle the load, also having many poligons in the scene require an all core-rendering for decent amount of time). If you're perfectly happy with a less crowded scene, with less than ... 5...10 millions of vertexes, it's not really worth it.

I'm butting in every now and then not to convert (there's no way I would go into another, more performant modeller after I invested so much time in Maya, to exemplify), it's more of a mention of strengths and weakness if anyone else ever decide to start making their own things.

Last aspect is the ecosystem size. There's simply no way to compare DAZ with it's huge libraries of available props with the more vetust Poser universe. Heck, even renderosity, the store that bought Poser, they admit they make more money selling DAZ items. In Poser you have to make a lot of the gizmos by yourself. Can be time consuming.

Knowing what I know now, I'd do the posing in Cinema4D and Blender and the works in Unreal. But I'm too lazy to reboot.
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I bought Victoria 4.2 bundle: https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-pro-bundle , the first year I was creating bats posers and been using V4.2 ever since for my stake damsels and all my poser characters.
I think If it's not broken why change to V6... V9. This V4.2 bundle allows me to adjust stake damsels head to toe whatever my twisted BATS crazy mind needs. It has about 25 different facial features too.
Besides I'm too old and broke try any thing else. Will Burner
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wjhk93 wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:46 pm I bought Victoria 4.2 bundle: https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-pro-bundle , the first year I was creating bats posers and been using V4.2 ever since for my stake damsels and all my poser characters.
I think If it's not broken why change to V6... V9. This V4.2 bundle allows me to adjust stake damsels head to toe whatever my twisted BATS crazy mind needs. It has about 25 different facial features too.
Besides I'm too old and broke try any thing else. Will Burner
The biggest reason to upgrade from V4.2 is the skin and the expressions. The V4.2 skins don't look as realistic when rendering with Iray, and I'll NEVER go back to 3Delight! But when you mention "old and broke," I have to admit that it can take a long, long time to render an Iray scene just with your computer's CPU. I got some royalties as an inheritance, and I splurged with a real monster of a graphics card (it takes a special Nvidia graphics card to render Iray, almost certainly because Nvidia invented Iray! :lol: ).

As for expressions, you're stuck with whatever expression models you purchase for V4.2. In later models like Genesis 7 and 8, you can increase/decrease expressions as well as mix different expressions together (60% Scream plus 40% Horror, for example). I spend a lot of time trying to make my heroine's expressions look realistic!

As for "too old," I never thought I'd live to 76!
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