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GIMP POLL:

What traits do you prefer for your ideal GIMP victim?

A. Sweet and innocent: "a good girl"
B. Attractive but not nice: a "bitch" who deserves it

State your answers right here below


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34592) MAV 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 10:12 PM Permalink


(34592) Since only Dr Yuya and I may know about this, heroinemovies released a good PG-13 AOH torture clip that some GIMPers may also like. In "Wonderful Girl: The Reckoning", the hot model (anyone know her name? Believe it may be Savannah?) is AOH tortured for 15+ minutes via a beating, tasering, and whipping while wearing a very skimpy bikini. Not my custom but I enjoyed it! More photos and a trailer here:
[www.heroinemovies.com]
 
34591) Brainmaster 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 09:33 PM Permalink


Crazy latino guy is at it again.

[www.youtube.com]
 
34590) Darkedo 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 05:21 PM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


(34590) Pedro said: I am not sure, but there was somebody here who liked this when the whip hit the armpit. In the near future there will be a film in which the whip hits exactly the armpit. I admit I forgot, which one, but during the shooting the victim told that this particular stroke was very painful, and I tried to comfort her by saying someone will be very happy with that particular stroke...

Indeed.
Obviously is more painful, the whip twist and gains speed, more the zone of the armpit and in general the side have less flesh and is more sensitive, a bullseye would be hitting the breast or the nipple.
It was used in the past to whip with more severity a girl.
I remember one of the best whipping scene in movies from the past where the older whipper says to the younger: "Stop now, let me whip her, I know better how to make her scream, I know the women's weak points" and he start whipping her making the whip twist and hitting the armpit and the breast.

(Movie: Isabella Duchessa dei Diavoli ... aka Miss Stiletto)
 
34589) frog 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 05:14 PM Permalink


(34589) The Avernus Cult is at it again. This evil organization has existed since the 1880s and has an international membership. It's heinous crimes have gone unpunished because its members are all highly placed men in government, business, and the military. The cult's rites center on the torture, ravishing, and sacrifice of innocent women. Their rites occur every year on the solstices and equinoxes, and on the main feasts of the Christian calendar.

There are several interesting posts that I have no time to comment on, so I will just vote on the poll.

Re the poll: I think it is all depends on the mood one is in, since both have their merits.

Having said that, since right now I am feeling like Dostoevsky's character in Dream of a Ridiculous Man I will vote for A. There is something enticing about destroying innocence.

Next time it may be B, as I said it all depends on the mood.
 
34588) A Viewer 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 05:01 PM Permalink


The title of my story is called Cleaning House. The main character; Josh has been repeatedly taking advantage of by women so after being pushed too far he goes on a killing spree, killing off several of his exs in a variety of ways.

There's bondage, BATS, electro, drowning, and strangulation to name a few themes that come up. It's the ultimate revenge fantasy.

Again, it's at [ralphus.net]
 
34587) A Viewer 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 04:52 PM Permalink


(34587) Elvira Mistress of the Dark (Cover)

Also, Ralphus has generously published one of my stories in the story section. You can find it at [ralphus.net]

Thank you, Ralphus.
 
34586) A Viewer 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 04:49 PM Permalink


(34586) Hack/Slash vs Chaos # 5 (Cover)
 
34585) A Viewer 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 04:47 PM Permalink


(34585) Contact: Rockin the Casbah (Cover)
 
34584) toxicmask 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 11:09 AM Permalink


Pedro wrote: One frequent problem with Mira and with many other dominas is that while they are happy to beat to pulp any males, they are just not ready to whip females.

You should tell them that in order to work with you, the females must be treated as the male victims.

For the the poll my answer is A. Innocent women in the wrong time and place receiving a hard sentence for other's sins (or cause they wished to receive that harsh sentence)
 
34583) Covers the Relentless 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 07:35 AM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


(34583) origin1

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34566) Ed wrote: I found that getting in was more rewarding than being in. I actually found Mensa a more enjoyable group. Went through Intertel first, but they were even more lame.


I agree with you that Mensa had some good things to offer, via the local group. I was quite active for 10 years, until I had my final run-in with a particularly toxic member and decided it was time to move on.

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34573) A Viewer wrote: Demongate # 3 Cover
Covers - You're welcome. I found it on comixology.com. Maybe you can find some others there that you need.



Thanks for the tip, A Viewer! If you'd care to email me, I can point you to a few other online resources.
 
34582) Hofrax 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 07:24 AM Permalink


(34582) Regarding today’s pic and the similarities to “Mark of the Devil”, I have to say that as a rack enthusiast, I never cared much for that style of rack (although the actress in MOTD did give a good performance). First of all, from the standpoint of realism wouldn’t the risk of breaking her neck almost immediately be very high? And regardless, such a rack would choke her, meaning her screams would be much more muffled. And aesthetically, it just doesn’t hold a candle to the traditional AOH rack, with the victim’s body on full display in all of its glorious vulnerability.
 
34581) Gog 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 06:35 AM Permalink


Bill K. ~ You missed out then. The last season of Game of Thrones was the worst. By missing out, I mean as far as a really good TV series. Nothing much GIMP wise though.


big grin

But now that Game of Thrones is over, everyone thought that Emilia Clarke would have a bit of time on her hands. Truth is though....she's been a little tied up.



lol
 
34580) Pedro 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 02:06 AM Permalink


Thomas Chaser - Thanks for your recent review about Darcia's ordeal in connection with the Wheel of Pain. Somehow you managed this time to make me remember your old reviews... :)

I admit Darcia was far more popular among our customers than how I'd expected. Her Painful Duel against Arthemis will be the film I am going to release next month.
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toxicmask wrote: Would it be safe to say that Lady Amanda took the same amount of pain in just one scene than Zazie through the entire movie?

I think that would be unfair to Zazie, because she suffered really a lot... I haven't ever tried bastinado on myself, and to be honest I don't really feel the urge to do so, but those who experienced it (even males) say it is the worst of all.

This trailer shows a vengeance motive for Amanda to Whip Zazie more harshly.

Perfect diagnosis! While the first half of the film is dominated by the almost insane rivalry between the two dominas (Amanda and Ariel) the second half is about this motive you mention. Amanda feels humiliated and I think a little "stabbed n the back" because Zazie chose her as the victim of the SWITCH...

Maybe once a Domina is chosen by the submisive girl, she would have to take another round so vengeance leads to harder strokes (just like in cruelamazons perhaps?)

Well, we didn't have such a rule, and Zazie knew very well it would have been a suicide mission to continue the game... but we were bad bad enough to give her an offer which she couldn't resist... I don't want to give away too much of the game though....

Lastly, is there any way to share elipain and moodpictures content on social networks (facebook, twitter, etc)

Sure, we have a twitter account...https://twitter.com/MoodUniverse actually that is the best way to get notifications now that newsletter frequently gets into the spam folder. I also used to put there some exclusive content so it may worth a check to follow us there too.
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Darkedo wrote: But remember to your dominas that they have to aim further on once in a while and make the whip twist sometimes, the side with armpit and breast is important too ;)

I am not sure, but there was somebody here who liked this when the whip hit the armpit. In the near future there will be a film in which the whip hits exactly the armpit. I admit I forgot, which one, but during the shooting the victim told that this particular stroke was very painful, and I tried to comfort her by saying someone will be very happy with that particular stroke...
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Yanni asked: Can I ask what the strap is you use in your pussy whipping scenes?

Sorry I am not good at naming materials... What I know is that I cut this strap from an old general's uniform belt, because it seemed to be hard and durable.
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Muhammad Awais and altCdel asked about a domina named Carol..

Sorry I don't plan to book her. I don't find anything sexy on her other than that she is a female....

I like though the other domina (Mira) you mention (she is on the picture with the male sub which may be deleted by Ralphus on a request) One frequent problem with Mira and with many other dominas is that while they are happy to beat to pulp any males, they are just not ready to whip females. Amanda, Ariel and some others don't have objections about it, but the majority are just hesitant to torture fellow females... Mira is one of them... I hope some day still, I will convince her...
 
34579) Bill K. 
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Monday, 17 June 2019 12:39 AM Permalink


Gog said the "Mother of Dragons" doesn't burn, remember?

Actually I only had HBO for last two years and only saw the last season of GoT.
It's just the knife in the heart ending was just disappointing considering her dragon roasting an entire city of men, women and children by the 10s of thousands in the last season the world's biggest bitch should have gotten the same at the end. Will Burner
 
34578) pcv 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 11:39 PM Permalink


Oops.

That’s what happens when you submit a post while drunk, Ralphus.

PVC’s post (34570) was from me, pcv. Sorry.

A Canadian may be willing to give me a pass on this. After all, I’m still celebrating from my Beloved St. Louis Blues’ winning the Stanley Cup this past week…..
 
34577) petelobo 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 11:27 PM Permalink


I've (sort of) been waiting to get some vibe on Monxa Mala, and so far it looks like--all the hype aside--it will be the first of Pachamama's films in a number of years I'll be skipping. I asked before if someone who had seen it could tell me whether the girls being whipped are actually ever nude, or if they always have on their full skirts or macrame undies, or whatever the hell those things are? No response to date, so I assume that means not many viewers here.

One of the most frustrating issues in the "regression" of PM's stuff is that after years of having Jac as the limp-wristed whipper, which led to lots of complaints, now that he's lost the fellow who did the work in the first Mal film, he's got the GIRLS doing it. Sorry, bro, but I think you are missing the point!

I'm enjoying the photos from Pedro's output, though (never thought I'd say this), starting a girl with 50 strokes, then following that with 40 is a great way to keep the films short. For all his shortcomings, Lomp understood how to pace a girl instead of just beating the shit out of her. And every single thing I see leads me to repeat my plaintive plea: When you have a girl with great breasts, how do you have a "whole-body" whipping of 50 strokes that never touch the front of her body (when she's AOH?!!!)

Great models (in both studios) and decent production values. But if we could cross Jac and Pedro, tame down the "artistic" elements of Jac's films (you'd think after so many shots at making whipping films he'd have figured out how to make them not so blatantly amateurish), turn Pedro's models around at least sometimes, and make the masterpiece that's hovering somewhere between them.
 
34576) Thomas Chaser 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 08:33 PM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


(34576) Wheel of Pain 28 by ElitePain

Review by Thomas Chaser

The “Wheel of Pain” series is becoming my favorite series from the Elite Pain stable, because of the selection of contestants that compete on the show. This episode’s contestant is Darcia Lee, a porn star from Budapest who was introduced to the show through a previous performer, Zazie, who has become a fan favorite. Zazie gave Darcia some tips about the show, one critical one being that the blonde dominatrix (Ariel) is more cruel than the brunette (Amanda). With a potential to earn $3,000 by surviving six spins of the wheel, Darcia thinks she’s strong enough to make it to the end.

In her first spin of the wheel, Darcia lands on “Domina’s Choice”, which requires her to choose either Ariel or Amanda as the domina, who will then choose which punishment Darcia will suffer. Fearing Ariel, Darcia chooses Amanda, who in turn chooses 50 Full Body Whippings for poor Darcia. Amanda points out to a fearful Darcia that she got off easy; Ariel would have selected 75.

Amanda has never looked better. I probably say that in every film she’s in, but in this one, she definitely has found a look that works for her. She looks great in navy blue, and she looks really great when stripped down to bra and tights. I’ve seen her naked in previous films, and in my opinion, she looks better clothed. I say that not as an insult, but as a compliment because she really knows her body and how to dress it well. She projects power, even when she’s just standing by the Wheel of Pain.



Darcia is forced to strip in front of both Amanda and Ariel, who will each take turns whipping the poor girl. There’s some interesting banter between the two dominas as to who will be the better with the whip and will break poor Darcia first. Darcia has already expressed her fear of Ariel, but to be honest, I think Amanda does the better job in both performance and presentation.

In the opening shot, we’re treated to a full-body pan of poor Darcia, the camera drinking in the lines of her body as she stands, arms overhead, waiting for her whipping. One thing I noticed was the mole on her ass. Maybe it’s because I live in an area where skin cancer is a real danger so I’m hypersensitive to such skin tags, but a freckle with irregular lines on a part of the body that doesn’t get much sunlight is something she may want to have checked.



Ariel gets the first crack at the contestant, giving her ten solid blows. Don’t get me wrong, I like Ariel, but she needs work on her poses. For instance, compare this shot of her working on Darcia.



The hand on the hip is a little too casual. Now look at this shot from later in the session.



It’s better. It’s not particularly intimidating, but it does show her body, particularly her arms, in a much better angle. Even though you can’t see the whip, you know it’s there, and Ariel looks fantastic in the way she’s cocked her hips and arms, as if poised for action. She looks very glamorous and athletic, but not particularly frightening. When she tries to project power and a bitchy attitude, it comes off as too forced. She should go with what works for her; she should be the glamorous dom.

And then there’s Amanda, who always looks like she’s about to whip someone; you, me, Darcia… one of us is going to feel the sting of the whip, and we’ll like it!



Amanda has some of the best power poses in the genre. I bet she probably wakes up every morning, grabs a whip, and poses in front of a mirror. Or maybe it comes naturally. Either way, she’s a joy to watch, and she looks like she enjoys her job.





After Darcia survives the round, she considers quitting. Then, she is informed that Zazie lasted 5 rounds, and Darcia has only completed one. So, rather than go home in shame, she decides to spin another round and see what happens.



Congratulations, Darcia! You’re going to get your ass beat!

Each domina gets 20 strokes, for a total of 40, to dish out on the poor girl. And boy do they love their job.



During the session, Darcia gets some bonus punishment. As if a whipped ass wasn’t enough, she gets some bonus play on her pussy. She hates it, but you’ll love it. It becomes a sort of “game within a game” to spot which ones landed on her pussy and which ones just hit her ass.



Both dominas inadvertently hit the poor girl’s genitals, and you can tell which ones land on her tender vulva, and which ones don’t. Here’s an example.



What do you think? Pussy strike or not? Trying to guess which ones did, and which ones didn’t, actually makes this session much more dramatic and tension-filled. 40 lashes later, this is what Darcia’s ass looks like.



At the end of the round, Darcia is shivering with shock; practically on the edge of convulsing right there on the frame. When she goes back to the Wheel of Pain, she tells the host that she’s done, finished, kaput. She won’t go on. She’s reached her limit. Zazie is stronger than her. She wants to take her money and go home. She can't handle the rivalry between the two doms to see which one will break her first.

Then the host makes her a unique offer. Darcia can pick one dominatrix and only that dom will punish her. She won’t have to worry about the rivalry between the two powerful women.

Darcia weighs her options. Zazie lasted six rounds. Six! And earned a lot of money. So, Darcia chooses Amanda. She thought she was getting the easier of the two.

Sucks to be her.

Darcia is bound on her back, her arms stretched over her head and bound to the end of the bench, her legs wide apart, offering Amanda her most sensitive and vulnerable region; a part of her body already tenderized by the whip in the previous round of punishment. Amanda, so talented with her power poses, gives us another one as she taunts the helpless young girl.



And then things get really intense.



I have to admit, I haven’t seen a girl get this brutalized in an Elite Pain film in a while. Darcia screams, begs, and pleads for mercy. But with Amanda, mercy is not forthcoming. She's a professional and she has a job to do. Blow after blow lands on the poor girl’s tender organ, the tissue bruised and swollen with anger. You’ll almost want to say, “Somebody stop her! Somebody save the poor girl!” But nobody is there to save her. Nobody is there to stop Amanda from beating the poor girl’s pussy into a bloody pulp.







Darcia’s long screams of anguish will wrap around your heart and want to rip it out of your body through your throat. I’ve never heard such agonizing sounds in any Elite Pain film. You’ll be screaming right along with her. Only Darcia can stop the brutality, and she’s so far into her psychosis that she can only scream, and count, and scream, and count…and beg, and count, and scream.

I will say that I’m impressed by Darcia’s performance, but the real stars are her breasts (which are real, and are spectacular) and her screams. This girl really delivers on the emotional punch that this game is designed to create. Horror film producers will want to duplicate her screams in slasher flicks, because there’s no greater scream of pain and fear and terror ever recorded. If she ever wants to move on from porn, she should consider doing sound effects voice work.

Elite Pain has put out better films (“Painful Duel 7” comes to mind), but this one certainly delivers on the drama. It’s not perfect, but it’s “perfect enough”.

My rating: A-

Buy online at: ElitePain
 
34575) toxicmask 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 07:32 PM Permalink


(34575) What a great glimpse of bastinado we saw on that new Trailer Pedro! Would it be safe to say that Lady Amanda took the same amount of pain in just one scene than Zazie through the entire movie?

This trailer shows a vengeance motive for Amanda to Whip Zazie more harshly. Maybe once a Domina is chosen by the submisive girl, she would have to take another round so vengeance leads to harder strokes (just like in cruelamazons perhaps?)

Pedro did you realese WoP29 today because of Father's Day? If so, it´ll be a great present.

Lastly, is there any way to share elipain and moodpictures content on social networks (facebook, twitter, etc) or there is no way that content would show up there?
 
34574) Darkedo 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 06:55 PM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


(34574) Hey Pedro, the video look so awesome, Zazie is sooooo beautiful, and that's a perfect postiion for a back whipping.

But remember to your dominas that they have to aim further on once in a while and make the whip twist sometimes, the side with armpit and breast is important too ;)
 
34573) A Viewer 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 06:16 PM Permalink


(34573) Demongate # 3 Cover

Covers - You're welcome. I found it on comixology.com. Maybe you can find some others there that you need.
 
34572) A Viewer 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 06:13 PM Permalink


(34572) Demongate # 3 interior page
 
34571) A Viewer 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 06:11 PM Permalink


(34571) Demongate # 3 interior page
 
34570) pvc 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 05:59 PM Permalink


Ralphus wrote:

My goodness, my little poll question has certainly inspired discussion, although not necessarily the kind I was hoping for. There have been some criticisms of the limitations of the way the poll question was written, and I make no apologies for that. Like Ed noted, it's an A or B question. I tried to explain why the question was limited in its scope to merely two choices. It doesn't mean you guys can't discuss your own alternative opinions as to what constitutes your perfect GIMP victim, it only means they're not going to count in the official tallying of the results.

Sorry, Ralphus. I honestly thought you were simply seeking a numbers count.

Most definitely I prefer the “sweet and innocent” GIMP victim. They’ve done absolutely nothing to deserve the horrors they will face, and yet simply because of their gender they are subjected to those horrors.

Option “B” implies the victim has previously subjected others to grave injustice (at a minimum) or possibly even the same tortures the victim now faces. At any rate, by definition, the victim of Option B “deserves” the impending treatment as retribution for her past actions toward others. “Eye for an eye” maybe? To me her fate seems more like fair and just punishment for prior crimes, not a "girl in merciless peril" simply because of her gender.
 
34569) localroger 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 05:12 PM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


Just saw the new Samuel L. Jackson Shaft, and it came with what I had to interpret as an apologia for the GIMP scene that should have been.

At the climax of the movie the bad guys have Shaft Jr's girl captive as three generations of Shafts come to rescue her, and one of the baddies literally says "I don't like her just sitting there with no restraints."

Baddie #2: "What's she gonna do?" (They are in a secure penthouse after all.)

Moments later as if to answer she kicks one of them in the nuts, cock-blocks another, and dashes for it, only to be stopped by the arrival of even more bad guys blocking her path. Then they finally restrain her -- with a zip tie in front. Really?

The thing is, they didn't have to put that little bit of dialog in, and I think it was as a signal that yeah, there are things we would have done in the 1970's that we can't do today.
 
34568) Yanni 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 04:53 PM Permalink


Wow Pedro, this one looks fantastic! I love the position of Zazie in the post whipping.

Can I ask what the strap is you use in your pussy whipping scenes? It almost looks like a shiny vinyl.

This will be my first purchase next paycheck!
 
34567) Stef 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 04:49 PM Permalink


@Pincopallino

I do not think the WOP concept gets boring per se. It's like a football match: you can watch the game over and over again when the two teams are interesting. In WOP case, it's all about the (new) girl. If the wheel rolls well and there are many rounds, and the girl's reactions are good (and the camera angle is right), then I like to watch WOP, even on installment 29.

The round with the dominatrix as sub I see as a bonus. I think it's the first time this selection has been made. Without this, there would probably only have been 4 rounds with Zazie. So, this is a bonus without disadvantage.

Of course, one can keep the WOP game exciting by modifying the rules and introducing new punishments. I do like the concept of two dominas, because adding a spectator to the scene also adds an extra humiliation. Mood had this in Prison Punishment Show and in Lashville: Town of Justice, but it was unfortunately fake. That ruined it.
 
34566) Ed 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 04:16 PM Permalink


Covers: but I did want to comment that it's cool to run into a fellow former member of ISPE. You are the only one I've bumped into outside of Mensa, another pretentious organization of which I have been a former member for over 20 years.

I found that getting in was more rewarding than being in. I actually found Mensa a more enjoyable group. Went through Intertel first, but they were even more lame.
 
34565) CrazedDog 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 03:57 PM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


While both A and B have their appeal my preference is A for a couple reasons.

1. A would suffer humiliation during the process/interrogation/torture.
2. The sweet innocence brings about the girl next door mindset.
 
34564) bleumune 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 03:54 PM Permalink


Re: The poll

This one isn't even close. Definitely choice A (Sweet and innocent).
 
34563) Wheelhouse 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 03:09 PM Permalink


Ralphus, could you please delete the photo at 34560? Yikes.
 
34562) Covers the Relentless 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 01:02 PM Permalink


(34562) MPcoverWWBC[1]

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34535) Ed wrote: I can prove it to be equal or better than 99.9% based on standardized tests (ISPE, if you know it. I found them to be pretentious.)


I am very invested in staying out of all of the current pissing matches about statistics and French beef-based recipes, but I did want to comment that it's cool to run into a fellow former member of ISPE. You are the only one I've bumped into outside of Mensa, another pretentious organization of which I have been a former member for over 20 years.

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34529) A Viewer wrote: Demongate # 2 (Cover)


Many thanks, A Viewer! That's a nice upgrade to the scan I had.

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34544) TorNorth wrote: Poll: The bitch that deserved it. But I like the innocent ones as well.


I feel like I should recognize the cartoon character in your post, but I'm going to have to ask, who is that?
 
34561) Masamune 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 12:59 PM Permalink


More argument in favor of B.

With B you can have:
- an evil victim: Milady de Winter, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Elle Driver
- an anti-hero victim: Catwoman, a pirate, a criminal
- a good (but not Sweet and innocent) victim: Black Widow, a spy, a cop undercover, bat-girl/woman, Princess Leia

So you have a lot of variety, and because all of them are bad-ass, the opportunity to long brutal tortures.


With A instead, a Sweet and innocent girl will most likely start to cry even before the torture start, just because she if forced to strip.


Now, because the torturer have a lot of vantages by his side, I find that the victim must be defiant, strong-willed and impudent as much possible, to give an interesting level of challenge.
 
34560) altCdel 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 12:30 PM Permalink


(34560) @ 34430> Muhammad Awais, wrote :

Pedro, I just saw new mistress on cruel mistresses named carol she has big ass and perfect body. Can we expect a movie with her in near future in which she can be slave?

That lady is at Femdom Web Site, if Pedro can convince them to switch as Sub it is sure to be hot and nice Film,

I notice a new Lady Mira too, she has a great body to take some caning/ whipping too,

Hi, LL @34553), to have Lady Ariel frogtied & ring-gagged looks like is a far possible dream to me though..

Best wish,
 
34559) LL 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 12:03 PM Permalink


Sure, Bob. I was referring to the steak pictured by Ralphus. Not true bourguignon, but I won't mind as long as he provides the other side dish I mentioned...
 
34558) Bob 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 11:56 AM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


(34558) @34553)LL wrote:
Thanks for the steak, Ralphus. Now if you could add some pomme duchesse and béarnaise sauce

If you would ask for béarnaise sauce in a French restaurant after ordering "Boeuf Bourguignon" you could be shot! A French chef could consider that as a mortal sin.
The real Boeuf Bourguinon is not a steak recipe. It's a stew with tender chunks of beef, carots, onions, potatoes etc... and is served with bread but without side dishes wink
 
34557) JD 
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@Kelderek: Good choice of tattered dress ... smile I also like the skin map on the model ...
 
34556) Steeltoiz 
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@Pincopallino

Do not be so dogmatic and enjoy. Had the punishment for Amanda had been for breasts or back surely she would have disrobed. There is much to like here especially the drama with the beautiful Zazie and Amanda's revenge. Do not cheat yourself to stand on principle. Like the sub tethered to the whipping post, you will break down...and love it! 😉
 
34555) Kelderek 
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(34555) My latest 3D render for you!
A GIMP in the state we want to see her... smile
 
34554) Pincopallino 
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Hi Pedro.

I was very excited about the release of WOP29 and I thought I would buy it as I had done before with many WOPs. Unfortunately this time I will not buy WOP29, and since you are very interested in having opinions from your customers, here is mine:

The thing that interested me most in WOP29 was to see Lady Amanda as a sub, but honestly I don't care about the bastinado, and besides she is completely dressed. And with the splendid body of Lady Amanda it is almost a crime.

I have bought and seen most of the WOPs released recently, unfortunately I think the formula is becoming a bit repetitive and boring, no matter who the executioner and who is the victim.

I really hope you can find something new to improve the series.

Take care.
 
34553) LL 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 09:44 AM Permalink


Re 34522

Thanks for the steak, Ralphus. Now if you could add some pomme duchesse and béarnaise sauce. Ah yes, and Lady Ariel frogtied & ring-gagged under the table.
 
34552) Ed 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 08:38 AM Permalink


lionrobe (34543): Did you get my mail ?

No. I only check it a couple of times a day, but as of twenty minutes ago there was nothing there from you.
 
34551) Michael Max 
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@34452) Pincopallino et alii

I will buy Maleficarum 2, but it's simply for the sake of supporting the producers. The preview images that I am seeing do not inspire much confidence and the scathing reviews seem to confirm that. It looks as though the majority of the budget went to buying buckets of red paint. I don't want to be mean, I really appreciate the work that went into producing this and other movies, but it's also important to be honest. The original Maleficarum was excellent with a compelling story line and GIMP scenes that delivered on every level. That level of quality has not been matched by other productions though, and usually it's the story that is lacking.

We are not short on good writers here. Here's an idea: let's have a competition for a GIMP-themed story that could be adapted into a movie script. It has to be a new and original work. Perhaps Pachamama can then film it if it's workable?
 
34550) Michael Max 
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What traits do you prefer for your ideal GIMP victim?

Sweet and innocent, of course :)

I prefer if the girl is shocked and horrified by the terrible things done to her. It shouldn't be over the top though. One of my (many) pet peeves with commercial BDSM productions is that the models seem to be convinced that they have to squirm all the time while tied up. It's something that classic Insex wisely avoided. I actually remember one of their videos where they brought in a popular bondage model for a shoot, it might have been Kendra James, and she started with the squirming nonsense. PD immediately set her straight telling her to cut it out. She played the proper victim for the rest of the shoot.

Another thing usually lacking in GIMP scenes is showing that the victim is resigned to her fate, for example slumped in her chains/ropes with no hope of being set free. It's such a seemingly simple thing, but so rarely done well.
 
34549) Valtiel 
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Hi everybody, o hope I'm not late for the POLL question.


I think the question should be
What traits do you prefer for your ideal GIMP victim?
A. GOOD: " She don't deserve it"
B. EVIL: a "bitch" who deserves it


Why? Because if she is good, she will be always a victim. She could be arrogant, proud, rude and arrogant, but if she's heroic (like a spy, or superheroine) she still is a victim.

If she's a villainess, don't matter if she's sweet, nice and helpless, she deserve it.

Then, answering the question as it was made: I choose B, if we assume that the words "she deserve it" means that she deserve it in the mind of the torturer. (For example, in the mind of Lex Luthor, Supergirl deserves the worst torture in the world because she always ruins Lex plans)

I love innocent girls too, but I think it's always better to break a big proud soul.
 
34548) Stev 
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@Pedro: Looks great, will buy it for sure!
 
34547) Pedro 
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Sunday, 16 June 2019 06:23 AM Permalink


Innocent looking (see poll) Zazie fought like a hero in this episode, which is almost 80 minutes long.



 
34546) Gog 
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Bill K. ~ Only one thing wrong with that.....the "Mother of Dragons" doesn't burn, remember?



lol

*********

Poll "A"

 
34545) Hofrax 
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(34545) @Seth 34523

Exactly. Our defiant warrior insists on holding on to her pride until the very end, yet the squirming of her body and the contortion of her beautiful face into a mask of pain betrays her convictions. The rack tears an involuntary scream of agony from her lungs, as she is forced to surrender all pretense of dignity.
 
34544) TorNorth 
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(34544) Poll: The bitch that deserved it. But I like the innocent ones as well.
 
34543) lionrobe 
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34468) Ed

Did you get my mail ?
 
34542) EXitZero 
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(34542) Enjoy.
 
34541) JD 
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Ed said Still, when you lay your ass on the line as an authority with nothing more than your name to justify it, I may occasionally challenge that.

Fair enough, but let's do it in private, please. I can still debunk a Chewbacca defence when I see one but not at the cost of a crazed audience smile
 
34540) Ed 
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JD: I'm not going to touch the flesh of your developed argument unless you wanna go private, by email. We hyperextended here.

Yes, we did. And I have no particular desire to pursue it. I want to remain a member of a forum dedicated to recognizing and relishing the lascivious torture of females. Nothing more.

Still, when you lay your ass on the line as an authority with nothing more than your name to justify it, I may occasionally challenge that. Never any offense intended. Hey, we are all on the same team.
 
34539) Bill K. 
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(34539) Speaking of bitches that deserve it, but you could say all the women in GoT were bitchy and deserved torture and BATS but the prize goes to the Dragon Queen.

I much prefer her ending like pictured the Dragon finally had enough of her bitching and this seven long year TV series giving her pussy roasting BATS.

Anyhow of the fictional Bitches that deserve it I choose her. Will Burner
 
34538) Ed 
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JD: LOL Ed, you made me look. The word is real, don't shatter my shallow confidence in my English.

Apparently it is, although more used in French or other European languages. As you are facile in more languages than I, it is an understandable misstep.
 
34537) Steeltoiz 
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@Pedro
That clip is fantastic. By the look of Zazie's face each lash continues to echo through her body. Was that a bigger whip or was Amanda possessed? Amanda must have chosen the largest one she could get her hands on. I cannot wait to see if Ariel taunted Zazie as well. I may not be able to sleep tonight.

I think your more popular subs are the tough, angry and defiant ones. Blue Angel and Cleo were great against Amanda. Were they more popular than Lucy and Natalie?
 
34536) JD 
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Ed said Yes, you're smart, but your opinions are just those. Opinions. Sorry, Babe, but your's aren't the only ones, or the only ones that are correct.

That's the whole philosophy, Ed. We each talk from our bubble experience that vary from individual to individual. Opinions are like assholes, we all have one.

I'm not going to touch the flesh of your developed argument unless you wanna go private, by email. We hyperextended here.

Lastly, yes, I mistype many a time, English is a remote 3rd language and I make more mistakes than I'd like to. Sorry about that.

Ed said NOT condescendence not a word.

LOL Ed, you made me look. The word is real, don't shatter my shallow confidence in my English. smile
 
34535) Ed 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 08:05 PM Permalink


My last responses to this whole hairball inspired by a simple either/or poll (expected):

the case for a direct correlation - direct correlation between IQ and wealth. The smarter you are, the better off you're likely to be.

No, the more aware you are likely to be. Which isn't near the same thing. Correlation is NOT causation, a phrase I'm sure you know.

Both of them are multivariant and their use as univariant is a faux pas. I can make the claim that since most of the audience is undeniably skewed toward older age, the weight is skewed toward fatter bodies and not the median in the gaussian bell. The same goes for your Wendys/Burger King analogy. Plays to the balcony seats, but not to the main floor.

Yours is a facile argument. It depends on your population. If I were to sample a population of people in Mississippi with a population of koala bears, the results would be skewed. But not within the population of koalas or fat-assed Mississipians. WITHIN the specified sample, the distribution would hold true. (It doesn't have a specific name with no reason. It always holds true. --As you know, but choose to ignore.) And yes, I taught multivariant statistical analysis as well as simple univariatate ANOVAs.

Of course there are smarter people than me. They have to prove it, not to claim it.

I can prove it to be equal or better than 99.9% based on standardized tests (ISPE, if you know it. I found them to be pretentious.)

Flattery will take you anywhere, Ed. Condescendence, not that much.

Localroger is closer to the root of the problem: It is just as likely -- and likely much more so -- that the wealthier you are, the smarter you're likely to be because you will have good childhood nutrition, good education, and encouragement from your peers and elders.


We can look at Ramanujan as a remarkable exception, unlikely, but fortunate(?) in that his genius happened where a power like Great Britain could see it. How many Ramanujans are there in Saudi Arabia? Chad? The Congo? Bolivia? But for opportunity and recognition, we could have walking cures for cancer or answers to black holes.

"Troicha: Old wounds are the worst, I know.LOL. .

Now this is condescension
(NOT condescendence, BTW. Not a word.)

JD, I love your art and value your video contributions to GIMP. Always have. You just come off sometimes as, "I'm so much smarter than the rest of you unwashed that you should accept my opinions as though they came from 'on high'"

Yes, you're smart, but your opinions are just those. Opinions. Sorry, Babe, but your's aren't the only ones, or the only ones that are correct.

Enough with a distraction to a simple A or B question. I'm finished.
 
34534) JD 
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localroger said [..]

As well as bocaccio, check emails, I answered there, no need to extend an offtopic chat here.
 
34533) Diceman 
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Regarding the poll;

I'd go for B - I like Trumpian blonde, blue-eyed Nazi bitches being tortured for throwing a milkshake at my gay car because I'm a clever person with refined tastes in rape and torture porn. Am I doing this right?

My answer is B, with some flexibility around the 'bitchiness' and 'deserving' part. For me it's all about the stakes, risk and reward.

In many A scenarios, the innocence implies ignorance, randomness and true injustice, which is fun every once in while, but doesn't have much to it.

B has more of a story and is more attractive and captivating to me.

Take the whole Amanda/Ariel rivalry as an example; former friends, now rivals, used to viciously and joyously dishing it out but not taking it. Cleo leaving (BRING HER BACK!), models whipped as prop to their posturing. Ariel's eye movements in the Zazie counting clip. All dramatic stuff, before getting into the realm of corruption, war crime, conspiracy, etc.
 
34532) Stev 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 07:31 PM Permalink


POLL:

I see it like @Pedro: A the innocent ones.


 
34531) localroger 
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JD said: The smarter you are, the better off you're likely to be.

See, this is the single biggest reason to criticize Murray, because that doesn't follow from his results at all; correlation isn't causation. It is just as likely -- and likely much more so -- that the wealthier you are, the smarter you're likely to be because you will have good childhood nutrition, good education, and encouragement from your peers and elders.

And I'm not sucking on sour grapes here, what with my own mumble mumble Z+5.5 test scores. From experience, having a measured IQ of 185 and two bucks will get you a coffee at Starbucks -- but not one of the fancy ones with all the cream and crap.

Oh, I will let my favorite masochist answer the poll: "I always fantasized about being someone powerful like a spy, because who wants to dominate a wimp?"
 
34530) Pedro 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 06:42 PM Permalink


POLL: I definitely like the innocent type girls. (this applies to victims of torture too) In my teenage years I prefered the bitches, then somehow it gradually changed to the total opposite as I grew older....

Steeltoiz - Hey, you make a nice marketing for us...

I can say that I saw the full Zazie WOP (I think I am the only one yet), and - at least according to my taste - this is one of our most interesting ones. This has some nice drama, between Amanda and Zazie, while it has the usual rivalry between Amanda and Ariel too...

Let me show you a one minute clip which is my absolute favorite part...

I haven't ever seen this (almost) insane anger on Amanda's face. (at around 9 sec) Those who will see the whole movie will totally understand this anger...

Anyway... what I like the most is that at the beginning we're at 29 with the counting, but at the end of the clip we're at 26... HAHA...



Steeltoiz is very well informed (from me), the files are already uploaded to our servers, and will be released early Sunday...
 
34529) A Viewer 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 06:37 PM Permalink


(34529) Demongate # 2 (Cover)
 
34528) Bill K. 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 06:27 PM Permalink


(34528) Ralphus said "do you prefer McDonalds or Wendys?"

Neither... I prefer Agatha. Will Cooker
 
34527) JD 
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boccaccio said JD, now that I know that your 'science hero' is Charles Murray, the darling of white supremacists and those who cater to them, our earlier discussion becomes more transparent.

Oh, please. Don't go virtue signalling on me. Unless you can disprove his book (many have tried with little success) let's no go into arguments. For those that don't know, the book makes the case for a direct correlation between IQ and wealth. The smarter you are, the better off you're likely to be. What a radical Nazi concept! smile As for who's the darling of who and the guilt that comes from that, Hitler loved dogs as do I.

This technique of labelling people you don't agree with as 'racist' and 'bigots' is starting to get drab.

Much like Ben Shapiro, I care about facts, not your feelings. Sorry, m8.

I already admitted I'm a deplorable, for not jumping into the wokeness bandwagon. You can't shame me more than that. IT'S A JOKEsmile

OK, as promised, here's what I found around. Some credit to shake, I think one piece comes from Ralphus, I kinda lost track. And a few of you who spotted interesting things.









































[www.zippyshare.com]
 
34526) steeltoiz 
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Hours until the release of WOP29 on Elite Pain. The resiliant and defiant Zazie vs relentlessly evil Amanda and Ariel.
 
34525) boccaccio 
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@ JD re 34513

JD, now that I know that your 'science hero' is Charles Murray, the darling of white supremacists and those who cater to them, our earlier discussion becomes more transparent.

Is he really the best you can do for a 'science hero'?

Copernicus? Newton? Linnaeus? Berzelius? Gauss? the Curies? Edison? Planck? Einstein? Salk? just to name a few. None of them good enough?

With so many great men and women of science to choose from, your 'science hero' is a guy who has spent much of his adult life trying to convince those who need justification for their politics that whites are more intelligent (whatever that means) than blacks?

Shades of Houston Chamberlain and Gobineau, the quasi-philosophers whose pseudo-intellectual writings (along with those of Richard Wagner and others) made anti-Semitism intellectually respectable and even fashionable in some circles, in the second half of the nineteenth century and the first half of the twentieth.

Sheesh
 
34524) JD 
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Ralphus said But what I really want to know is...do you prefer McDonalds or Wendys?

LOL. According to Ed's view, we should be able to figure that out simply from the generic taste for stake that's generic distributed to all of us, vegans and omnivores alike.

What I'm saying is McDo and Wendy don't have uniform clienteles therefore a blanket statement is incorrect. I read the LGBT community prefer Volvos. I'd refrain from making any statistical statement involving cars, Gauss and gay community smile IT"S A JOKE.

I know I overstayed my welcome so I'll try to finally get those files waiting to be uploaded on Zippy and do some meaningful contribution today. Promise.
 
34523) Seth 
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(34523) "Hofrax"

A warrior experience and a brutal soul.
And that in this kind of scenario, a barbarous woman who will proudly present an imperturbable temperament facing her destiny.

The torment she will have to undergo will be painful but she will cling to her pride even if the movements of her body in the face of pain betray her convictions.
 
34522) Ralphus 
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My goodness, my little poll question has certainly inspired discussion, although not necessarily the kind I was hoping for. There have been some criticisms of the limitations of the way the poll question was written, and I make no apologies for that. Like Ed noted, it's an A or B question. I tried to explain why the question was limited in its scope to merely two choices. It doesn't mean you guys can't discuss your own alternative opinions as to what constitutes your perfect GIMP victim, it only means they're not going to count in the official tallying of the results.

And Boccaccio was very perceptive in pointing out that merely stating the letter A or B is not very interesting, either, it's much better to explain WHY you feel that way. This is a discussion forum; it's people's opinions that are interesting, not necessarily what they end up choosing.

LL: Here, I spent an hour and a half preparing this for you. I hope you like it. It's filet bourguignon. Bon appétit!


But what I really want to know is...do you prefer McDonalds or Wendys?
 
34521) Spike 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 04:25 PM Permalink


GIMP Poll: Both A & B have their own appeal. No favorite here.
 
34520) JD 
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Ed said Eye color to establish political (Aryan) leanings is stupid, except in broadly applicable ways, which are equally broadly stupid.

OMG, it was a joke. I'll try to TYPE them in bold next time. smile smile

Ed said Height and weight are, provably normally distributed, a fact, regardless the population.

Not at all. Both of them are multivariant and their use as univariant is a faux pas. I can make the claim that since most of the audience is undeniably skewed toward older age, the weight is skewed toward fatter bodies and not the median in the gaussian bell.

Ed said JD, you are a smart man. I can respect that. But don't you ever, ever, think that there is no one else as smart.

Flattery will take you anywhere, Ed. Condescendence, not that much. Of course there are smarter people than me. They have to prove it, not to claim it.



Troicha said Well spoken sir, I couldn't have said it any better myself!

Old wounds are the worst, I know.
 
34519) Troicha 
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Ed wrote:

But don't you ever, ever, think that there is no one else as smart.


Well spoken sir, I couldn't have said it any better myself!
 
34518) Dick Napalm 
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(34518) Hey guys, Dick is BACK! And you know what that means right? Another new Bunny Bound post on the FREE Bunny Bound website!! Here's the link [bunny] It's a nice little crucifixion scene that should hold you over until the next post!

Also, I posted an image from the REAL Bunny Bound Patreon page here to give you guys more of an idea of what to expect there! Some amazing poses from my real Bunny model! Here's the link to THAT page : [www.patreon.com]


Becoming a patron there means that there will be more REAL Bunny model updates, and MORE free Bunny Bound site updates too! I don't need much motivation to keep both going, but basically it boils down to, more members, more content...Simple! :) Totally up to you guys and the community! Either way, ALL GOOD for me!

Hoping you guys are all doing well! Also hope you dig the new Bunny update!

See you all again soon!

Dick....OUT!
 
34517) Ed 
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JD: Human charactristics are normally (gaussian) distributed? On which planet, Ed?

Ours.

Sorry, I have to repeat myself. If you're going to only allow GREEN/BROWN as possible eyes colour you'll never spot the Arian Brotherhood members.

One would be hard-pressed to find a human trait where the normal, clean nominal curve applies. Maybe height and a few others and only within ethnically homogenous groups, Sorry, I have to repeat myself. If you're going to only allow GREEN/BROWN as possible eyes color you'll never spot the Arian Brotherhood members.


A non sequitur. Your statement does not validate the next. Eye color to establish political (Aryan) leanings is stupid, except in broadly applicable ways, which are equally broadly stupid. Height and weight are, provably normally distributed, a fact, regardless the population. Hell, height has been the standard of such statistical data over years, as you should know. Meaningless in this current context. Eye color? Eye color? Really? This is your defense? While the variations are no doubt more definitely localized, that doesn't prove any of your points. Actually, it kind of makes a mockery of them.

JD, you are a smart man. I can respect that. But don't you ever, ever, think that there is no one else as smart.
 
34516) Darkedo 
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(34516) Thanks Steeltoiz for the nice picture.
 
34515) Jarpi 
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@ 34511, nice picture.
 
34514) Ed 
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Just to clarify, I do not, never did, mean to arbitrarily discard the qualifications behind anyone's opinions or choice. As boccaccio said, I find the reasons WHY we chose 'A' or 'B' (even, or maybe especially, if the answer was qualified in some way), more intriguing than the mere numbers on the scoreboard.

As do I. The reasons why a particular choice is made is as interesting as the choice itself, whether I agree with it or not. Let's face it, it , it really doesn't matter why we like something over another, or the specifics of that particular like, just that we are all members of a small minority given the chance here to discuss our similarities.

This is a poll. Like a political poll. Biden OR Trump? Given that narrow choice, I know which answer I would give. But given the question, "which candidate would you support against Trump?" and it gets complicated, even if with the same basic intent.

This isn't science, even an attempt at accuracy. It is a simple A or B poll. I, as boccaccio, enjoy the qualifications. But it is still just an A or B question. So post your answer, say why if you must, but just say A OR B. Just for the sake of the poll and to save our estimable moderator, Ralphus, the task of trying to clarify your qualified response.

And wasn't trying to be heavily erudite by bringing up Chebychev, but JD's comment about that "70%" just triggered something from 30 years ago when I taught the subject. Frankly, it was specifically aimed at JD, who is a very well educated man and likely understood the reference immediately. And no offense meant to even him. We remember strange things from our past, and the context that may spur them can never be predicted. I could NEVER have expected that a discussion on GIMP would bring back teaching college statistics.
 
34513) JD 
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Ed said You are smart, so I know you understand the Normal Distribution (bell curve).

Human charactristics are normally (gaussian) distributed? On which planet, Ed? smile

Anything from the colour of the eyes to the incidence of diseases in the general population is following skewed distributions or (multi)modals ones.

If you're really interested of the field we can continue in private by sending you some literature references that deal with that (including my science hero, Charles Murray). Actually one would be hard-pressed to find a human trait where the normal, clean nominal curve applies. Maybe height and a few others and only within ethnically homogenous groups, not the case here (unless we know for sure that each ethnic group votes in equal number on Ralphus' polls smile).

There's also the greater male variability that predicates that males are scattershot in their abilities while females are tightly grouped. Therefore, to maintain the logic, each post by a male should be followed by a post from a female and the number of posts voting A should be close to the ones voting B to keep the bias in check. You certainly realise the absurdity of it.

Sorry, I have to repeat myself. If you're going to only allow GREEN/BROWN as possible eyes colour you'll never spot the Arian Brotherhood members. smile

Lastly, I never disputed the ability of the afro-midget to put whatever he wanted on HIS board. I only snickered at the claims of meaning.
 
34512) boccaccio 
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Wafflers of the world, unite! We have nothing to lose but our indentations.

Personally, I think the qualifications offered by the wafflers on the poll question are at least as interesting as the actual result of the poll.

That's not to say the question as posed isn't interesting, but if everyone answered simply 'A' or 'B,', our esteemed host would have reported that there were X votes for choice A and Y votes for choice B and that raw data wouldn't have been very interesting, at least to me.

I find the reasons WHY we chose 'A' or 'B' (even, or maybe especially, if the answer was qualified in some way), more intriguing than the mere numbers on the scoreboard.

Also, another thanks to lionrobe for his latest archives, which never fail to present us with any number of sweet innocents as well as tough, defiant heroines.
 
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(34511) Hotness
 
34510) Covers the Relentless 
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(34510) Justice League cartoon scene of Wonder Woman fighting Felix Faust and getting mummified
 
34509) Covers the Relentless 
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(34509) Justice League animated series episode 'Maid of Honor' B
 
34508) Covers the Relentless 
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(34508) Justice League animated series episode 'Maid of Honor' A
 
34507) Newyellowperil 
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(34507) "STC-028 Inhuman Humiliation And Rape - Japanese Yakuza Ravage A Blonde Mafia Wife!"

I would definitely choose B, as the concept of the GIMP starting off as empowered and confident makes for incredibly flexible scenarios and power dynamics. Many users have already suggested the scenarios of captured female pilots, soldiers, or warriors.

Given my fetish for interracial GIMP scenarios between Asian captors and white women, there's one type B scenario unique to JAV that I'm especially fond of: yakuza men capturing, torturing, and making sex slaves of the sultry and haughty wives or daughters of their Western mafia rivals during a mob war. The Japanese also produce GIMP material with white women of the innocuous Type A, but they tend to be younger, thinner and softer-faced as part of their role. In contrast, the white women selected for the aforementioned Type B are more mature, taller, curvier, bustier, and carry themselves confidently in a way that makes them more physically and psychically alluring for a captor to break them down.
 
34506) LL 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:17 AM Permalink


I defer to Ed's knowledge of statistics and of course to Ralphus' prerogative of asking what he wants how he wants (it's his site after all) but there's no "safe middle of the road" here, just an arbitrary reduction of options to two. Is your prefered food kebab or pizza? Your prefered football team Real Madrid or Barcellona? Would you rather pay a $1,000,000 fee or spend five years in prison?

All legit questions, but it's pretty natural some people will say they prefer filet bourguignon, Juventus, walking free. You get to know what they chose between A and B, not their absolute preferences.
 
34505) Reine Margot 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:17 AM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


Martina, The Healer - Problem Solver


Martina, played by Graciela, knows her place. She has been with the Mad Monk the longest. She's in charge of healing those nuns and novices who pass by the dungeons to be chastised and to send them back to the monastery as healthy as they arrived days, maybe weeks, before.

She voiced her lack of conviction to be a nun, the reason why she was sent to the dungeons to be punished and to then stay with the task of tending to the needs of those that fall in the hands of the Mad Monk and succumb to his pleasures and excesses.


Martina knows the secrets all those around her hold because she's part of them. She has solved the problems of those who fell under the spell of Agustinus, but she never forced anyone to go through the 'treatment'.  She didn't forced Lucrecia, she agreed to do it. She didn't force the Marquesa either, nor any of the other novices or nuns that required her services.

Martina is now confronted with the task of solving Barbara's problem, something Barbara refuses to do because she wants to keep what she suspects she has inside, but the Mad Monk insists, Martina has to do it... or else.


Martina falls from  Agustinus grace because she kept the information she had from him, as all the others did. The six novices under Agustinus charge have become part of the demon's coven and they must pay.

Martina meets her fate when she's put to the rack to be tortured without mercy.


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34504) WillieJ 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 10:39 AM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


(34504) Re. the poll: absolutely 'A'. The sweeter and more innocent, the better.
 
34503) Ed 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 10:04 AM Permalink


JD: Nope, just a retort to an unnatural dichotomy. Instead of finding out real info (that 70% say, don't care about the character of the vic) you end up with noise stats.

And nope backatcha. When it comes to people,almost all dichotomies are unnatural, or at least, futile. Most will always go middle of the road on any opinion (Trump supporters being a ridiculous exception.) You are smart, so I know you understand the Normal Distribution (bell curve). Even with some question or population skewing, there will always be a majority shying away from the extreme tails of the distribution.

When I taught statistics, this always held true, unless you gave only a dichotomy, an either this or that option. Add a third, middle option, and it would get the majority. Give them five options and the distribution would just be more graduated. Give 'em a scale of 1 to 100, and the only thing that would change is how smooth the curve's lines were.

So yeah, 70% will be centered. Chebychev's axiom is that 68% will lie between -1/+1 standard deviations from the mean (the average). 95% within two, and 99.7% within three. Beyond three SD, it's all problematic, depending on the questions.

So, whether he knew the math or not, Ralphus instinctively did exactly what he wanted: to force the responses into two, and only two, options. The various attempts I see of gimpers waffling is only proof of how applicable the statistical law is.

Personally, I applaud Ralphus for sticking to his guns, even condemning those who qualify their answers. This is an A or B question. You can make a case for how you would qualify the option you didn't choose (more Chebychev), that is only qualification, not decision.
 
34502) LL 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 09:33 AM Permalink


Right, so I scrolled down and realized other people found the choice too restrictive as well. If we only have Cersei and Sansa then by all means go for Sansa. Count that as an A (under protest).
 
34501) JD 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 09:32 AM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


Ralphus said I guess that's humor? confused

Nope, just a retort to an unnatural dichotomy. Instead of finding out real info (that 70% say, don't care about the character of the vic) you end up with noise stats. Like who do you prefer to rape you in jail, a rough lesbian or an emasculated bean counter. Hypothetically, of course and as illuminating.
 
34500) LL 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 09:28 AM Permalink


Poll: neither.

Not sweet and innocent like Sansa, nor vicious and bitchy like Cersei, but brave and defiant like Daenerys.
 
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A Sweet and innocent, a good girl
B Attractive, but not nice


A, but with the proviso that my villains usually come up with some sort of pretext that the heroine is 'not nice,' and therefore in some way deserving of her fate. Almost always, my villains believe the heroine to be in some way disloyal to their interests, disdainful of their attentions or unduly proud in some other way. What we see in her as courage or defiance, they see as insolence or impudence -- and they punish her severely for her 'sins.'
 
34498) Darkedo 
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For the Poll:

Absolutely B

a defiant gal to break, or at least a pride and strong woman who tries not to cry in tears.
This the second thing I seek, immediately after the beauty of body and face.
 
34497) Ralphus 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 08:31 AM Send E-mailEMAIL Permalink


JD wrote:

One should know if (s)he loves his mom or his dad more.

I guess that's humor? confused No, it's just when I put a "safe" answer as one of the choices, we get a bunch of people reverting to choosing something like "I like them both". Well, duh. Probably most do, but that's also pretty boring. Being forced to narrow it down to your favorite is much more challenging...and interesting.
 
34496) JD 
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Ralphus said there is no C as an option. I know the choice is difficult, and that's why I made it one or the other.

One should know if (s)he loves his mom or his dad more.

B.
 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 04:47 AM Permalink


34455) the collector
"The young ones are so pretty when they afraid..."

I fully agree. The fear of the unknown on an innocent girl's face, not really knowing what predicament may be coming, adds an unexpected element of foreboding. As in these two examples:

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34494) T 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 02:20 AM Permalink


I could give a long-winded wishy-washy response about the pros and cons of either option, but why?

If I can only choose one: B for ‘B’itchy.

I enjoy seeing evil women get their comeuppance in the end. Usually after they torment some sweet innocent thing, thus justifying whatever happens to them in a poetic justice sort of way.
 
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Saturday, 15 June 2019 01:33 AM Permalink


34464) Klingsor

That's AE "Artur" the artist, and you can find all his works here and there, DA, renderotica, VoD
 
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