Thanks for your ideas The Gimp, I would love to do some noir little short with me passing out, cigarette torture and maybe some fake rape scene on a vintage outfit laying down on a desk.

Who is the perv now? ha ha

Steve and I shot a little video yesterday with me on a business suit, wearing glasses and panty hose and fetish hug heels, it would be uploaded soon.

Jake, thanks so much for your compliments!! And also Jefferson, thank you as well, fear and screaming is one thing I like to do and I am glad you guys think that I don't suck at it.

The scenes we shot for girls next door bondage can be simulated and consensual as well, actually if we show me getting rape and tied up for real we all go to jail, that is just the way it is, yesterday we basically shot a lot of simulated rape scenes, including one with me inside the trunk of the car (my idea) that is pretty scary and it made me cry

You dear ones would have to wait for the pictures for that cause I don't have them yet

On a different note I am so gonna go to see the Lindsay L movie, I know probably sucks but she is a good actress and she is fucking hot, I actually met her on set once and she was sweet as peaches, not a bitch at all.

Anyway if anybody wanna see all my videos on girls next door bondage in clips for sale just go to the store and type Dahlia Delis, you are gonna get maybe 2 pages of results and like that is easy to choose, there is everything there, French maid outfit, fetish vintage lingerie, panty hose, even pantyhose encasement (which is really hard to shoot, cause I have a bit of breathing problems, but the product is worth it.

Steve as usual the most gentle and kind I worked with and he takes care of me very well, also gagged me really deep which it sucks when you have a bad tooth, lol

Ok I be here on my webcam, chain smoking and surfing the net.

Good night to all and thanks so much for all your sweetness, you guys fucking rule

Dahlia Delis

I want to thank you very much for your insightful review of Lindsay Lohan's new movie. I want to see it, but I may have to wait till it comes out on video!

As far as her torture scenes go, I wish they were actually real! I CAN'T STAND THAT BITCH!!!

I also have a question. How tight is Lindsay's gag, exactly?

You guys know those classic HardTied/Insex gags? Where they stuff the wadding into the woman's mouth and then add a "clear" tape wrap-around so you can still see the wadding?

What kind of tape do they use for that? Is there clear bondage tape out there? They don't just use packaging tape for that, do they?

It seems like half of this movie is nothing but rape scenes.

If no one has seen it, it's a sexploitation Spaghetti Western.

Mexican women are raped by gringos. And the brother of one of those victims gets revenge on the ranch owner responsible by sexually assaulting his wife 3 times. Two attempted and one complete.

The wife is played by 60's Playboy Playmate Virginia Gordon. A young Cybil Sheperd look alike only with cruise missile nipples that made my dick turn to concrete whenever she was topless and she just inhaled.

Not only is she raped. She is beaten, tied up, and her clothes are ripped to shreds. But it being a foregin made movie once they're torn, they're inexplicably in one piece again.

This movie is sexploitation from second to second.

I think it's one of the top 10 mainstream rape movies and I think whoever sees it won't be disappointed.

First of all, Brutus here is red drooling ball picture for you, I took it myself when I was bored a few months ago

I saw I Know Who Kill Me and I liked it, I am sorry I did.

Don't expect big gags and lots of rope but she gets her finger cuts and other narly stuff, she is not naked in anytime of the movie and considering that she was high probably during the whole shoot I do think she did a decent job

I liked the style of the movie, kind of indie, lots of blues and is pretty shadowy and dark, maybe they use the color blue too much, if you saw it you know what I mean

Ok time for bed, enjoy the ball picture Brutus

Lots of love

Dahlia D.

Jefferson

LOL, well, I'm not really into the stuff you are, BigD, but the Japs do have something for everyone. The sort of films likely to appeal to you are more likely the RBD and JBD Attackers' series (see link above -- IIRC, the two "doors" on the left are to the RBD/JBDs. You may also like some, but not all, of the ATI/ATK compilations & specialty tapes (the "next two" doors). The fifth door is to their Shark rape series, which it doesn't sound is likely to be as much of interest to you. You should be able to get, through the above,

a) A blowup of the full cover for the JAV

b) A set of about 12 pix for any of the recent ones

c) A link to the models in the JAV (the names appear in the URL anglicized, so you can search for them on Yahoo Japan if you want more info)

c) A link to another website that sells them in Japan (no idea if they ship to the USA) -- but this is still of substantial interest because

1) There is also a "page" which shows a little mini-series of the film in question (if your browser allows you to enlarge a page, bump it up to 200% for a halfway decent view of the pix)

2) I believe they also have a downloadable clip.

They may not have stuff for the older films, but the more recent stuff (at the least, a hundred or more) should help you get a good idea of what films you might be interested in. If you don't know Japanese, you'll have to click on things to figure out what gets you what of the above, but it shouldn't be too tough. Once you know what you have to click you'll know how to do that for everything. After that, if you want to buy it, you can probably write VM and ask for a specific thing.

Also of interest to some may be ActionJAV:

http://www.actionjav.com/results.cfm

This doesn't really have any of the JBD/RBD stuff but they do have a lot of any number of other "less extreme" porn stuff (with JAV Rape as not being "extreme" -- they have lots of those). This includes covers, pix, english summaries, actresses, and "video as series of pix" pages, and it's english-navagable, so many will find it useful.

Another site of some interest to some of the 'odder' fetishes (but more difficult to navigate) is Giga for Freaks:

http://www.giga-freeks.net/new/giga/html/sakuhinn/category/category_heroine.htm

That link is to their superheroine vids, but they also do scat and abuse stuff. Some of it is really, really surreal, like some 60s Italian director went nuts in Japan.

In between (difficult to navigate, lots of abuse without whips -- wax, power-tool-driven-dildoes, etc) is Baby-Baby-Baby:

http://www.baby-baby-baby.cc/

I'd recommend you check out their DDNG series ("Female Torture Lab") -- esp. DDNG-008 and 009.

For those who don't know it, Jack Ketchum's original novel is about a girl who is adopted by a crazy old woman who gradually begins to torture her for being young and pretty and innocent. Eventually the neighborhood boys are invited to participate. She doesn't survive, and before she dies, it gets pretty rough. From what I've read, the film doesn't wuss out (which is fucking amazing considering how rough the novel is), and it even has a fair bit of nudity, which is surprising considering the performers are about the right age. (I assume the nudity is discreet or implied, but still, that's pretty incredible in this day and age.) I think that things happen "just off camera" rather than being explicitly shown, but still. Reports are, this is an extreme film.

I have a feeling this one isn't going to do much in the pants department (waaaayyyy too dark, even for me), but for those of us whose interest in this kind of thing bleeds over into non-erotic, it's a can't miss film. The book stayed with me for a long time, and early reports are that the flick does it justice. It's still looking for a distributor, but there's tons of buzz, so it should come out later this year. There's a similar film about the real life case that inspired the novel called "American Crime" coming out soon also. (Yes, this really happened. People never cease to amaze me. I get upset thinking about it.) That one doesn't look as interesting. . . just some of a classy looking true crime pic. Anyway, this one's not going to be hot, but I figured enough of us might be interested. Just thought I'd share.

As far as her torture scenes go, I wish they were actually real! I CAN'T STAND THAT BITCH!!!

Now, now, what did Lindsay Lohan ever do to you? Dahlia met her and said she was sweet as peaches, so there! And why do I have the feeling that even if you loved Lindsay Lohan, you'd still want to torture her? So she'd be screwed either way :)

Hot Spur: This was one of those that I rented that took me totally by surprise. It had been retitled for video under the title "Love Desperados" and I knew nothing about it before I checked it out. All I can say is, God bless the exploitation era of the 1960s! They truly don't make 'em like that anymore. This one had nude bondage, at least 2 rape scenes that I added to my collection (including a bondage rape for Virginia Gordon) and a pretty harsh fully nude whipping scene that was more akin to a bondage video than any kind of Western I had ever seen. I'm looking forward to reading Jefferson's review. That's one we definitely need to upgrade the description.

BTW, there's a very cool (and very long) trailer for the movie in my Homepage URL.

Hostel: Part 2 on DVD October 23: 10 deleted scenes! 3 commentary tracks! Oh, yeah, I'll be buying that one.

BTW, what's up with Blu-ray disks having more features? Didn't A Canadian say the new Clockwork Orange release is going to be on Blu-ray only? So that means I have to buy an expensive new TV, and that all my old DVDs won't be able to work if I buy a Blu-ray player? Great, I'm finally getting my favorite vids updated to DVD, and now they're going to be obsolete? This new technology is changing way too rapidly for me. I've still got thousands of VHS tapes. Gimme a break and let me get caught up!

-handcuffed arms behind in a chair getting slapped

-bound wrists overheard/AOH getting punched (face and stomach)

The movie may include another model in the same predicament, but for now this is enough for me to wait at the edge of my seat until this and similar titles come out. You can access the trailer at the link above.

Jefferson

Jefferson James: I actually saw 10 to Midnight years ago. My perverted mind doesn't remember any rape scenes, either, so you're most likely right. In fact, the only thing I remembered about that film when I saw it was that there was a really hot girl in it. I recall looking her up in the credits at the time and found out her name was Kelly Palzis. I had never heard of her before. But then years later, I discovered this was actually her first movie, and she later changed her name to Kelly Preston and became a big star. Yes, that Kelly Preston, aka Mrs. John Travolta. Anybody ever see her nude bondage scene in 52 Pick-Up? Pretty rough stuff, especially since she gets shot to death, but a damn fine scene, I thought.

The Aussie Media, particularly mindless tabloids like 'New Idea' "People" and "WHO' are obsessed by Lohan and devote almost entire pages to her life and predicaments. Looking forward to seeing the film.

Cheers

TVK

Someone into rape fantasy couldn't be bored with a film like this. Of course, it's not well acted. It isn't supposed to be. It's sexual exploitation pure and simple and delivers.

Also, why isn't "Thelma and Louise" in the database? The attempted rape of Geena Davis is a lot more graphic than what happens to Jacqueline Bisset in "The Deep" which is included.

The latest mainstream movie that includes rape is the arthouse movie "Goya's Ghost" with Natalie Portman sexually assaulted by Javier Bardem who plays a priest.

A movie I guess to watch out for.

As long as I know the women aren't getting hurt in real life (which I know they aren't), it's a super turn on when a Japanese woman is pulled screaming into a basement/warehouse :))....

As a longtime lover of Japanese bondage, that statement is somewhat curious to me. Unless they are the best actresses in the world, it's my contention that the female performers in Japanese vids are INDEED getting hurt in real life. For instance, anyone who's seen any of the Attackers series, especially the more recent ones that feature Randa Mai, will know that these girls are really suffering when put through these tortures. Are they being "raped"? Not in the true definition of the word, since they are consenting and being paid for performing, but they are definitely getting roughly fucked. And the tortures are real. The welt marks on their skin from the whippings are rarely simulated. Those girls are truly being abused. And...I love it.

The reason why I love Japanese bondage, and other forms of extreme bondage, is because of the realism. Whereas ZFX movies, which are the closest to the Japanese in terms of sexual bondage, are cleverly done simulations (no actual penile penetrations, beatings with felt whips, etc.) the Japanese let it all hang out there. The only thing we don't get to see is a clear shot of the women's genitalia (because of the Japanese obscenity laws) but they are still clearly being raped and sexually penetrated and tortured. As I stated when I talked about seeing the behinds the scenes footage at the end of Shark Special #37, the last girl in that movie was so clearly traumatized afterward that she was crying and couldn't stop even when the cameras had stopped rolling after the shoot.

The last time I watched a Japanese bondage film, I sat back on my couch and saw this girl in the movie getting tied up and really getting put through hell. And I smiled. I said to myself, "I really do like watching movies where women are tortured". It was real, I KNEW it was real, and that made it even better for me. And I'm thinking, am I a sadist? I'm truly enjoying her suffering. So would I feel better if the action were simulated instead?

It's a fine line. I know none of us condones real life violence against women. Same with rape; it's a horrible crime. So if we were to stumble upon someone being raped in an alley, would we be shocked and try to help? I'd like to think yes. And if we see that exact same crime being committed on video tape, are we still shocked and horrified, or do we sit back and watch with interest and maybe get turned on a bit? Was the girl paid first? We don't know. But I'll bet we'd watch it and like it.

Now suppose we're walking by a neighborhood and we see a woman attacked, tied up and tortured by a gang of bikers (just play along, okay?). Shocking, right? Now we see the exact same scene, except on video. She's still getting attacked, but because she signed a contract first, that makes it all right? She's suffering the same way she was before. Did she agree to have some tortures done to her, but not others? We don't know, do we? But it's still a turn on.

Here's a poll question to try to get the board talking.

GIMP POLL:
Can a bondage/rape/torture scene sometimes be too realistic to be enjoyed? Do you ever feel guilty knowing that the women are in pain, or being abused and hurt? Or is the fact that they are being paid and consenting to the ordeal make it acceptable?

Let's get some opinions here. I think this is a topic that's worth exploring, and I'd like to see how people feel about it. So take a few minutes and share your thoughts with the rest of the forum. Especially you lurkers and infrequent posters; this is a good time to step out of the lurking closet and make yourself heard.

Make me proud, guys.

I guess because I know in the end it's only make believe.

However, this is stuff I normally see by myself. If I'm in the company of women, I have more empathy because my ladyfriend can identify with the possibility of her being a target for a sexual assault and physical abuse.

I mentioned once before I was out on a date and the woman I was with cried during the rape scene in "Monster". That chilled my erotic pleasure of it.

Also, I've been to some movies like "Irreversible" in which I could feel and hear the women in the theater reacting from fear to disgust when scenes such as that appear.

I think the only time I might really feel disturbed is if the victim is portrayed as either a minor or someone disabled.

I'd like to think in my fantasies that my victims are old enough and able enough to fight back. It's more pleasurable that way to me.

I don't think it's the 'realism' of the scene that might turn me off, but like everyone else, even though I tend to enjoy things that go further than many other people (even here), there are certain 'triggers' that make me stop enjoying a scene. It's often hard to explain what these are, but I know that at least some of them are linked to guilty feelings. So, while I have no problem enjoying a very literal 'damsel in distress', there is still a line.

I prefer not to think of the woman being paid, as it brings in unpleasent associations with prostitutes, etc. I have no problem with this in a rational sense, and I'm happy for them to make money out of bringing us some element of pleasure - it's just not something I want to ponder while 'enjoying' (he he) the film. Consent works pretty much the same way - just like in my 'rational' state I want to know that the woman consented, and that everything is above board, I don't want to think about that in an erotic context - much like I don't want a villain in a James Bond film to smile after being shot, and joke with the actor playing Bond about how well they did that scene.

When it comes to stories (one of my favourite erotic outlets), where only metaphors are truly tortured, all bets are off, and the less consensual and more violent, the better.

I watched this documentary last night about snuff and porn and it made me nervous, I am sure for you guys would be a piece of cake, basically they talked about Cannibal Holocaust and some Japanese weird snuff (that it turns to be fake)

Here is the link for the movie

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2695085153314436603&hl=en-GB

I hope the link works otherwise search for Dark side of porn, does snuff exist?

Is cool, they show some guts and good vintage special effects

I am glad somebody else likes my girl Lohan!! She is cool man, and for sure way better than that blondie in Captivity.

Love and chains

Dahlia

I am one scene away from finishing FRANKENSTEIN THE RAPIST, but the main reason I am posting today is to share with you my decision to develop a sequel to KILL THE SCREAM QUEEN.

It will be MUCH better shot, of course, but it will have the aspects that so many of you have enjoyed.

The story will be - you guessed it - about the person(s) who find the buried evidence (the video farewell) while camping. Various tentative titles come to mind, like DON'T TRUST THE PHOTOGRAPHER, RAVAGE THE SCREAM QUEEN, etc. It should begin production in the spring of 2008.

BREAKING HER WILL is next on the production slate, followed by I TOLD YOU NOT TO CALL THE POLICE. You know what BREAKING HER WILL is going to be about... but I TOLD YOU NOT TO CALL THE POLICE probably wasn't discussed here. It will be my first venture into gore. It's going to have a lot of supremely nasty scenes and unthinkable crimes. An example? The villain ties a pregnant woman to a bed, rapes her, and wonders aloud if he can kill two birds with one stone (if his dick can also penetrate the baby). He fails, so he cuts her belly open and rapes the baby, after making the hole larger. A cop is playing this villain. That probably makes it even more strange. He's helping out with the development of the story, describing police procedure, etc. He thinks I'm a screwball, but he's going to be in the movie anyway.

Your attempts at making erotic/sexploitation/bondage films can best be compared to a retarded child's attempts at making a new athletic game combining hockey, soccer and basketball. This game would have players trying to hit a soccer ball into a basket using a hockey stick and with players not being allowed to touch the ball except with their feet. This game would probably appeal to the retarded child, his Mommy and Daddy but if you're a fan of hockey, soccer or basketball you'd be like "What is this shit!?" It would have a negative appeal no matter how die hard a fan for any of these sports.

Of course this is what one might expect from a retarded child. What's your excuse?

As a favor to you I've attached the above link to a truck driving school. Best thing about this one is that you can use NJ Transit so you won't have to bother your parents to drive your there every day. Good luck.

But then there's "The Girl Next Door" (a book that's been on my mind this week). I'm almost scared to watch the movie. Is it the age thing that bothers me? Is that where I "draw the line"? I dunno. The whole "innocent victim" thing is certainly central to my fantasy world, and cutting off someone's sexual life at it's beginning pushes all the right buttons, so it SHOULD be perfect wank material. . . but it's just too much. That book bothered me more than it turned me on (and make no mistake, it did turn me on). I dunno. I didn't feel guilty about getting all hot and bothered, but I was just so upset by the story that the arousal isn't really what I remember. Maybe it's the dramatic situation more than the level of realism. Maybe. I'll think it over. I'm not up to figuring this out tonight.

On a lighter note. . . Bill. . . he rapes the baby? How does one rape a fetus? The fact that you're actually making me think about this suggests that it's a good idea. Sorta.

And I'll vouch for Lindsay Lohan. Never met her, but I've certainly been convinced she's an actress with a lot of potential. . . a real actor, not a starlet. And she's pretty hot. I hope she gets herself cleaned up so's she can get tied up in more movies. I haven't had time to watch the snuff doc, but I'm excited about it. Actually, the legend of the snuff film is pretty interesting history. I assume the "Guinea Pig" movie is the Japanese film the movie discusses (yes I have a copy). I know it was thought to be real by some folks. Some folks'll believe anything.

Poll question: Too much realistic brutality in a rape-torture movie is a turnoff for me, especially with blood and disfigurement. I want to see the actresses tortured and raped for a long time, but with all their lovely unbruised body parts intact. (Whip marks are OK though.) I love horror movies, but I guess I generally have a non-GIMP mindset when watching them.

As for BDSM movies? Some of the stuff in Insex and the Attackers series has made me feel uncomfortable, but I don't think I've ever felt guilty. I usually just hit the fast-forward button without any further thought. My feeling is that if the producer crosses the consent line in torturing the model, he will soon find no one willing to work for him. As far as I know, PD and the Japanese are still in business. I like to think that the pain inflicted, no matter how harsh, is totally consensual. And if I think too much about the real predicament of the model/actress, it would probably ruin the fantasy.

Bill Zebub: Pregnant women and babies (or fetuses) aren't exactly my cup of tea. Any other scenes worth noting?

But... to each his own, anyone who likes bondage at all is considered weird by some, so I don't judge what others like.

Does not matter if they are being paid....

I specifically remember watching one of the Attackers' Shark movies one time, and being disturbed by the rape victim's crying in the early scenes -- it was very believable. Too much so, in fact. Although it was a scene that technically had everything I might like (a young woman who has met with two men to try to get a record contract, or something like that, becomes a rape victim), the crying was so real I just couldn't enjoy it.

I'm pretty sure the film was Shark 237, as seen in my Homepage URL.

On the other hand, I'm one of the first ones to beef if a scene doesn't look real enough.

So how do I square this circle? I think these are my standards, as best I understand them. I definitely like to see a woman in peril, threatened with harm, and I want to believe she is truly captive. Loose ropes, or a rape scene where the woman isn't really constrained, just don't work for me. But at the same time, I want the torture or rape to have an erotic element. I don't need to see blood, and I don't want the scene to look too real.

Bill Zebub: Your soul is tormented. Deep down, you want to be a GIMPer, you just don't know if you can do it. Have faith. The first step is admitting it to yourself.

(Thanx everyone for all the Attacker video tips)

Having said that I will now say this....some of the vids on the net I have caught and we all know who they are I would question that yes the girl is in real pain, not enjoying any of it and is not paid well if at all. These girls are not stupid either just unaware and easily duped for one reason or the other.

Thats my take on it all...............nuff said

Wryter

As for the too real - I just remembered about a photo set that did the rounds a few years ago that looked like they were from real torture of women, lots of blood, etc (I think from somewhere like Burma, by the look of the women). That definitely grossed me out, and didn't last on my hard drive for long.

Can a bondage/rape/torture scene sometimes be too realistic to be enjoyed?

For me personally, the answer is yes. I have to admit that I can get a bit squeamish if the mistreatment appears too real. I much prefer the fantasy aspects of BDSM and find no pleasure in genuine brutality. While the models in my videos are usually quite uncomfortable, they are always willing, and they have the option to stop the scene at any time. Anything beyond that, in my opinion, constitutes abuse and has no appeal for me.

Do you ever feel guilty knowing that the women are in pain, or being abused and hurt? Or is the fact that they are being paid and consenting to the ordeal make it acceptable?

I never feel guility as long as I know the activity is consensual. The best BDSM scenes for me occur when the model is a good actress and can convince me that she is being mistreated against her will. The ability of the model to make me forget that the scene is staged is what works for me. But when it becomes real, I'm outta there.

Dave Darke

I don't feel guilty about any of the models receiving their due as long as they agree to it and are compensated approprately.

Grey

Easy. Camille Keaton in I Spit On Your Grave vs. Camille Keaton in Concrete Jungle.

ISOYG is mostly a turn-off. Concrete Jungle is hot.

I'm not turned on by anything that "destroys" a woman's beauty. Gore, Dismemberment, Tortures that involve permanent damage, etc. Nope, not interested. One reason I don't like most of the modern "horror" stuff.

In my opinion a model can be hurt 'WITH HER CONSENT' If it will all heel within a few days. ie needles in the breasts or ass. Other none painful, but can be very frightening for the model is torture with the plastic bag asphyxiation. That's ok for me also, because at the end of it you can see the model may have been frightened but she is ok. But the removal of fingers, arms, heads, drilling, stabbing etc. is a very BIG NO NO for me.

I think some masters can cut a fine line with giving their models real, but consensual pain without doing permanent damage to their lovely bodies.

I was a great fan of 'Insex' A lot of his models suffered real pain with their breast hanging [A least eight of them] and over thirty I can recall having real welts on their ass cheeks or over their breasts. One even had her pubic hair set on fire by PD when bound spread eagled. But I think I am right in saying only one failed to return for another session after a very severe bound to a rack whipping. That model was Sx if my memory is correct?

So to sum up. The model must NOT in any way be disfigured or lose part or parts of her body. That's a big turn OFF for me. Lots of blood is also a big turn off. Keep um crying but still looking pretty right to the end of the torture session.

I think for me its all about control. I don't feel any guilt, it's more just a question of whether it turns me on or not. I've never really been a gore fan. It does nothing for me. Yes, I like to see the girl frightened and crying. I'm not interested in the "gag talk" bit either as I'm not interested in her opinion. But I always like to hear her whimper and moan. I guess that's why I prefer porn to gore. As a matter of fact now that I think of it the only times I can remember feeling guilty was when I watched a gore movie.

On the other hand, a large percentage of racing fans go to the track to watch an accident. They don't really want to see anyone hurt, its just the excitement factor. I don't know really. Maybe we all just over analyze this stuff. Watch whatever you want, whatever turns you on, as long as in reality you don't hurt someone else.

Dahlia... Thanks again for all the lovely photos. You really seem like such a sweet girl. I think its a real treat for all of us to have you as a member of our perverted community.

Mr. Zebub- I'm sure that know one is hurt when you make your films. That it's all just a disturbing illusion. And I know I just said "watch whatever turns you on". But raping a dead baby???? Man, that's just too fucking sick. You should seek professional help dude.

Take care all and happy Gimping!

I mean that's what we all go to movies for right? For the REALISM!

If movie scenes are too fake, they arent realistic, and I don't enjoy them. Plus, the actresses are obviously consenting to it, and are getting paid, so that's another factor.

If an actress consents to it, the scene can't be that bad.

I think that the reason may because my interest in the "Damsel in Peril" fantasy first came about back in the days of the old Saturday Afternoon matinees and in between the feature movies they always had a serial which ran for about 15 chapters, and I loved when the current episode would have the heroine at the hands of the bad guy in some perilous predicament. Of course the following week the hero always rode in on his white horse and rescued the fair damsel. Many of you will not remember the old Saturday afternoon double features as you are too young (I am approaching 70).

BTW, I hope you all have visited my new Yahoo Group, it's filling up with lots of new caps. Link Above.

Brutus, I am glad you like that video, big deal about Cannibal Holocaust saw it when I was younger and I knew it was fake, but it looks damn real, I cant believe the director (what a bastard) put somebody from the crew with a pole on her mouth and make her stay still, that's real torture, poor girl

I been looking for more documentaries like that and I cant really find anything good

About the other topic, I am a fetish and bondage model and I am telling you there is some things that I wont do, not cause I cant handle it but cause I make a living with my body and a girl cant be all marked and burned.

Second of all, thanks god we get paid good and sometimes we should get paid even more considering that the director or photographer is gonna make money with that video until he dies.

For me, personally, sometimes been tied up too strong or gagged too deep is unpleasant, but is a job and I am an actress (if you can say that) so I got to do, sometimes the spankings are too hard, but I deal with it.

I am going to post a picture later of a recent shoot that I am gagged and you can see me crying, pretty weird, and of course there are some things I would tolerate with my man in private but I wont let some stranger do it to me.

So to finish it, I don't mind bruises and choking marks, my skin gets bad after the duct tape, but that is all good, so if you are a good model or actress you don't need to be really be punish hard, you should be able to act that shit up and sell it

At least that's my opinion, and yes, I do get turn on when I see a woman in distress but not if she is ugly or weird looking and she has to be wearing high heels, no matter what.

Ok this comments is super long, I am sorry

I am gonna go have a smoke

Lots of love

Dahlia Delis

In my opinion the answer would be NO.

If one is trying to recreate a specific scenario for a specific audience, then that realism is the job of the creator. The on/off button is always there as the personal acceptance moderator.

A perfect case in point is one I have often seen expressed here on this site.

Quote: "The bondage, the fear, the torment was great; - right up to the point where they started cutting her up and went into the bloodbath scene. "

That is about where I hit the off button. That is where irreversible damage started to occur. But if that is your thing, then obviously the off button does not get used

Do you ever feel guilty knowing that the women are in pain, or being abused and hurt? Or is the fact that they are being paid and consenting to the ordeal make it acceptable?

I certainly would feel guilty if these women were not into pain play, and then I would say NO to it being acceptable, if they were doing it just for the money, or if it was non consensual.

I would also get really pissed off if they consented originally and then the tormentor ignored their limits.

We have always tried to only employ ladies who are already bondage players and personally get off on the style of bondage and torment we are using on them. In the early days we may have inadvertantly used a non bondage player, but I can't bring any to mind at this time. Besides, in the early days our levels were a lot less severe than those we use today with new skills and technology at our disposal

So to sum up, I would say that my position is: - Just because you can afford to pay someone who needs money, it doesn't give the right to abuse and or torture for real.

For what it is worth, that is my opinion folks.

Cheers

Gord

From 1897 to 1962 there was a theater in Paris that prsented plays featuring horror, torture, rape, and sadism; it was the Theatre du Grand-Guignol. During the Roaring Twenties it was one of the top tourist destinations in Paris; patrons from all over the world went to be terrified, horrified, and shocked. The theatre claimed it kept a doctor always on call to assist audience members who had fainted from the excitement. During the 1920's the diva of the Grand-Guignol was Paula Maxa, who was "subjected to a range of tortures unique in theatrical history ... scalped, strangled, disemboweled, raped ... whipped" and much more. The theater also had specially enclosed box seats where well-to-do patrons could watch the spectacle on the stage while being visited by compliant young ladies. The Grand-Guignol lived for 65 years, quite good for any repetory theater. When it was about to close, the famed French author Anais Nin wrote, "All our nightmares of sadism and perversion were played out on that stage."

In the past few years the GIMP-like theatrical excitements of the Theatre du Grand-Guignol have become recognized in some scholarly circles, and several serious academic books have described its contribution to modern theater. (Perhaps sometime in the future there will be a similar recognition of Rick's extensive body of work?)

In the case of BDSM, Money has nothing to do with it. When it does, it is the person being whipped that pays the person whipping. Being good with a whip is a highly sought after skill. The women I know who are paid as BDSM models are being paid for the right to show their face. They are far more afraid of being "outed" and being persecuted or harassed by strangers, friends, family, and employers than they are of the whips, ropes, gags, etc.

Torture that requires special effects are another matter. Realistic often translates as gross. I want to be turned on, not grossed out. I may be in the minority here, but I really don't like to see women physically harmed in needless and mindless fashion. So, yes, some rapes I have seen depicted were too realistic to be enjoyable. On the other hand, there are rapes scenes in movies I haven't enjoyed or even disliked for other reasons. My kink is a little deeper and multifaceted than just: If it has this and this, it's good! They all affect me differently; some good, some bad, some indifferent.

Jefferson

The production should employ good actors and actresses who will make me believe what is happening on the screen for the duration of the production.

I have seen enough lousy films and videos to last me the rest of my life. I have turned them off and gone out to mow the lawn.

GOOD actor and actresses will sell the script.

Okay, while I'm here, a decent script would not hurt, either.

John

To Jeff Gord: I checked your site, is amazing how you do all that?

You guys should see it, furniture made with models, very cool and you seem to be a real gentleman, which is rare to find

Oh and what's up with the main picture here??

I always thought Asian girls did not have any pubic hair!!

About the other subject I think as a model and actress that we have to be able to sell it, with or without real pain, everybody has limits and they should be respected, the fact that we get paid for it should not be a turn off for you guys, cause I love my job and I like to think that I am making somebody happy and enjoy themselves

So I try to do a better job each time, I hope l do

Love

Dahlia D

I have joined Hank's new yahoo group, and as always with our resident movie chronicler, it rocks. Anybody here who hasn't clicked that link and joined (hey, it's free for cryin' out loud) should be ashamed. Hank, you are a great American.

I think it depends on the context and content ... some of the hardest scenes can be hard to watch which involve real mental abuse, maiming, and blood. BDSM models whether new to the scene or seasoned pros ... all should know about the "safe word" to stop the scene and signify that their limit has been reached ... this should be true for live or filmed shows (and this is usually edited out of the final cut) ... but ... if they are working for a paycheck ... they should know their audience, know their limits, and know how to put on a good show ... hence making the fantasy a reality.

That said and from that point of view, I would say that marks and tears are real and that the action is staged for our fetishes and the guilt aspect could be more related to "I am I weird to like this stuff?" ... I used to think this when I was younger and even tried to get rid of my collection until I discovered that I was not alone in the deviant world of BDSM. To each his/her own ... we should be thankful that there are others that make material for us to enjoy.

Jefferson James wrote "Torture that requires special effects are another matter. Realistic often translates as gross. I want to be turned on, not grossed out. I may be in the minority here, but I really don't like to see women physically harmed in needless and mindless fashion."

I agree 100% with Jefferson ... the snuff oriented and ultra violence of the Guinea Pig series, SAW, Hostel, or even the end results of Kerns' DoFantasy Sickest series are definite turn-offs ... I always thought Matthew Cole's euro loop featuring knitting needles was fake until I actually saw Anita do it for real in Torture Galaxy ... yikes ... possible permanant damage and blood don't flip any switches either although my tolerance has gotten better. Inquisition Live on the other hand, has gotten a lot of the situations right ... just look at Torture Rack pt 1 & 2 ... realistic, great fantasy action, and not gross!

Thanks for the accolades, glad you enjoy my work.

Now if you are in the US, over 18, and have US age verification, get your gorgeous ass up to Seattle and I'll convert you into a rocking chair or something.

Cheers

Gord

Jefferson

Guess what? I live in L.A now, and I am moving to Seattle in September!! Are you located there??

It would be pretty awesome to work together, check my website and send me an email please so we work something out

Oh man is so great you are in Seattle!!

And yes, I am sorry I did not know that Asian girls have pubic hair, it look kinda weird anyway, more like a teenager bad facial hair.

Ok love to all

Dahlia Delis

I'm thinking that by this Fall, I may have to change my name from A Canadian to A Seattlean (or whatever it is people from Seattle call themselves).

At this moment we are Soggyites, it's raining again.

I think the general term is Seattlites.

In response to Dahlia; yes I am close to Seattle. Currently in Kingston on the Kitsap peninsular. But in about three weeks I'll be moving closer, to a place near Tacoma, just a short drive down the I-5 from Seattle instead of a ferry trip.

Cheers

Gord

As with his bondage work, even Jeff's job offers are unique.

I hope Dahlia does enter the House of Gord in autumn. I personally think she would look good as a hood ornament.

I'm also enjoying the various responses to the poll. By the way, what happened to our height-challenged moderator? He must be having some fun with Aria.

Brutus wrote:

I'm also enjoying the various responses to the poll.

Yeah, me too. Turning the forum over to the rest of the group and letting them espouse their various opinions over this most recent poll has been fun. I certainly hope you guys aren't finished; we haven't heard from a lot of you yet. The poll question is at the top of the forum; let's hear from more of you. It's your forum, guys. Use it.

By the way, what happened to our height-challenged moderator? He must be having some fun with Aria.

Oh, I'm always having fun with Aria. Of course, my fun is directly related to tying up and torturing her, so maybe it's not as much fun for her, but at least one of us is having a good time. You wouldn't think that a statuesque Italian model would go for a 3 foot 7 midget like myself, but it's amazing the power of ropes, chains and duct tape have on persuading someone to stay with you. Whenever she tries to plead with me about letting her go (I know she's only kidding), I just slap a few more swatches of tape over her mouth and threaten to go all Hostel 2 on her ass. I've found that keeping her tied up and gagged all day (with some midget rape at regular intervals) does a good job at breaking her will.

Meanwhile, I'm taking a page out of Gord's book at transforming Aria into human furniture. Well, not all of her, just her tits. They make very comfortable pillows for me at night. Which reminds me...time to go to bed. Goodie!

Boy, got a lot of catching up to do on all the chatter I've missed. Certainly is good to be back in the world of all you sick, twisted perverts again. So a thought on the listed Poll question.

Can a scene be too realistic to enjoy? I would think the answer to that part would be yes. The anal rape scene in "Chaos" immediately comes to mind. Simply so gruesome that even one as jaded as I found it unwatchable. And the list could go on ad infinitum.

The other half of the question is easy to my mind. If one enters into a contract to provide a service in return for just compensation there is an automatic acceptance of any risk that comes along with it - no one bats an eye if some fella working the oil patch loses a finger installing a well head. So if a model gets an unexpected welt during a whipping scenario, so be it. After all, true artists must suffer for their work to be appreciated:).

Went to order some new flicks last night at Bizarro Video and found it is now all downloads and they appear to have slashed the inventory mightily - what a disappointment. Back to my Japanese friends again.

Stay Well All

I hope Dahlia does enter the House of Gord in autumn. I personally think she would look good as a hood ornament.

Okay, so any advance on hood ornament? Is that static Rolls-Royce type "Spirit of Ecstacy" ornament or "Well fucked, well vibrated, electrified, doing the splits" ornament?

Do I hear water fountain? Underwater Lava Lamp? - ? - ?

Meantime Dahlia can just sit there in LA getting all squirmy and wet as we all discuss what is going to happen to her if she is foolish enough to enter the Gordian realm.

You will be assimilated Dahlia, resistance is futile.

Don't ya just love it when a plan comes together?

Gord

The answer here is "yes". I know that everyone has different tastes in their fantasies, so for some, it can go way too far.

For example, in my case, blood. I watched a custom video that I had loaned a uniform from my collection to the production. The girl was a security guard that was attacked while "on patrol" in an old building. During the attack, which features much punching to the stomach and breasts, the girl doubled over at exactly the wrong time, and got punched in the mouth, splitting her lip. It was a mistake, but they kept going, blood and all, because later she was subjected to needles in her boobs with more blood. While the guy who contracted for this total custom was happy, the final scene when the bad guys leave this battered and bloody girl crumpled in a dark corner looked far too real for someone who has seen this "for real". Now I must point out that my copy of this private custom (payment for the lending of the uniform) did keep the camera rolling as the girl stood up and was helped out of the ropes afterward (smiling, but concerned about her fat lip).

" Do you ever feel guilty knowing that the women are in pain, or being abused and hurt? Or is the fact that they are being paid and consenting to the ordeal make it acceptable?"

This depends on the severity of the scene.

Going back to my role play partners as an example, I had one partner who wanted to be a punching bag, almost anything goes, while another was a tie her up, carry her to the bed, rip her clothes off and screw her type.

Before the Insex movies were available on file sharing for free, and all you could see (for free) were photos, I thought most of them were "over the top" for me. Now that I can see and hear the model...not so bad.

Growing up I was a fan of Renee Baker (70's House of Milan) and still have most of her photo sets. One of the last sets, and a video had her abused and supposedly had her breasts razor cut. Bought the VHS watched it only once and erased it. Way too far for me.

Again, as a former role player, I know it is possible to stage violence so it looks real, but minimum risk to the actress, but sometimes I think they cross the line.

By who?

The answer is that no scene can be too realistic to be enjoyed by someone. People would watch folks being thrown to the lions if they could. Is a brutal rape scene worse than a murder?

Personally I'm a bit tired of all the bondage flicks where they tie them up and kill them because they can't show them getting fucked good and hard (which is what they'd really like to show). I'd rather see her fucked and released than killed!

Only my opinion, but if the scene is being done as a performance, it can't be too realistic. When we do a shoot...rule number one is that nobody gets hurt. If somebody is in real pain we get them out right away. The intent is never to cause real pain. If somebody does get hurt....it is an accident. Accidents can get you thrown in jail or land you in civil court. They aren't part of the scene.

Check out Selena's anal training and Selena stuck up....two video clips that were recently added to the catalog. A large dildo was shoved deeply into her ass while she was bound doggie style. Selena was an anal virgin..during those scenes...she could have stopped the action at any time if she was in real pain and she was told to stop if it became painful. Her face shows real anxiety and discomfort...not unbearable pain.

Jean

Jefferson James: I loved your tale about me, I always wanna play an outlaw riding a horse, and some lines are priceless

"is just a waste of a good looking woman"

"you've seen your last sunrise, little lady"

You guys should go read it, go to his website and go to unfinished histories and read the Dahlia one, thanks Jefferson!!

It seems like everybody has a plan for me around here, oh boy

And Mister Gord: you would see me soon but one thing I am telling you right, I have a big water phobia and fire too, so please have mercy.

And taking a ferry is not problem, I have to do that anyway if I work with the Rue Morgue people, I think he is in San Juan island

I would post more pictures later

Love

Dahlia

Anyway, if you are into the lighter stuff, THE GIRLS OF BILL ZEBUB will be out in September in a limited edition. Release order til December is FRANKENSTEIN THE RAPIST, BREAKING HER WILL, WORST HORROR MOVIE EVER MADE, I TOLD YOU NOT TO CALL THE POLICE, and ZOMBIECHRIST. 2008 will begin with RAVAGE THE SCREAM QUEEN, and NUNS MAKE THE BEST HOSTAGES.

If you get any information on when that interview is airing, please let us know.

In a recent SpaceBabe Central Deathmatch segment, the girl is punched/hit in the face about 50 times (about half that while topless) in two or three minutes and eventually slumps to the floor in a daze. No blood involved, just decently-staged action with decent sound effects and acting (see the stiffs for clips 17-19 in the above URL). Realistic? No! But it worked for me-- it's some of the hottest stuff I've ever seen.

Other scenes I have found disturbing and not watched for reasons I can't really put my finger on. Somebody mentioned the rape scene from I Spit on Your GraveÖ that one turned me off, and I'm not sure whyÖ had it been filmed differently, it may have worked.

Yes.

GIMPers have already discussed the rape and beating of Monica B. in Irreversible (a long time ago in an archive far, far away); the rape scene being OK but the beating of her after as rather uncomfortable, not enjoyable.

Do you ever feel guilty knowing that the women are in pain, or being abused and hurt?

In mainstream movies, we know it's all faked. In fetish movies, of what I've seen, I've always assumed they're into it, or accepting of it for payment.

Or is the fact that they are being paid and consenting to the ordeal make it acceptable?

If they're consenting, then it's acceptable to them. Whether it's acceptable to me depends on what the ordeal is.

For me this plays into an earlier poll in which it was asked if our taste in porn reflects a deep seated hatred of women. A lot of folks here responded with a resounding 'No'. I would not be among them. Women as people are great. I have a lot of close female friends that I've known forever. But women as objects....that's a different story. I'm a bit of a troll in real life. Never dated much. Hardly ever had a woman flirt with me. So here in this anonymous venue, I may as well call it like it is. I DO have a deep hatred towards women and in terms of the porn I watch, the more brutal and realistic, the better. I just got 'Deadly Interrogation' from Gruntfilms in which a woman is beat up with fists, then a baseball bat, then cut, electrocuted, and shot about 20 times, THEN she is forced to give a blowjob. My biggest complaint is that the interrogator isn't hard in the BJ.

Luckily for myself and the rest of the world, I know the difference between fantasy and reality. Would I buy a great film if I knew it was an actual snuff film and not a depiction? I would not. But I'm pretty damned sure I'd enjoy it. I'll sign off my making a point already made here earlier by Steve Power. Thank goodness this stuff exists. I'd hate to think of myself walking around without a safe outlet for these urges. And I shudder to think of those that do. Thanks to the producers for making this stuff, and thanks to the models for selling a tough act as best they can.

Rape to a pretty and young girl seems OK to me and somewhat without boundaries. But, if you rape a helpless old woman, or torture her, I don't get much out of it, and thus wouldn't read it if it was written.

But maybe we should start a new poll when this one ebbs out on shaving the bondage models. Bobjones, I disagree. Shaved looks MORE innocent, not less. And ... you're hanging around with the wrong women, my friend. Shaving is now ubiquitous and becoming, if it hasn't already, the norm with young women.

Pubes are natural, sure. But they're also rude. Having a shit covered ass after pooping is also natural, but nobody uses that argument to support not wiping. Not shaving the pubic area is just dumb.

zee-ef-ex

The more realistic a scene can get the more fun it will be....and the more effective it will be at reducing the incidence of the event actually occuring. War movies prevent war....rape movies prevent rape.....there will be some high profile copycat cases that will always fuel the opposition, but the overall effect is already evident.

The hatred towards women isn't really a hatred towards women....its a frustration that arises from not being able to fuck any hot chick you want to fuck.... If you can check out a hot rape scene and wack off.....you'll be smoking a cigarette instead of stalking the next door neighbors daughter.

Just wanted to let you all know of an Italian porn movie (streaming link above) I ran into that has some GIMP action.

In the 45th minute of Predi di Guerra (I'm guessin it's prisoners of war), Italian hottie Bambola finds herself chained up by the wrists (AOH) while nude. For the next 5 minutes, she is fondled and raped (simulated). She is defiant the whole time which I like, and for those that like it, one of her captors "finishes" on her belly.

Good question!

Yes, sometimes I do feel that the actress is put through a painful workout, I recall a Dan Hawke episode which I reviewed some time ago, the poor victim had tears flowing (she was a real cutie...I think she was a girl which reminded me of singer Linda Ronstadt), Dan got too excited and went a bit over the limit, he said so later in one of his posts.

Dan is a real professional and I am sure he wanted no harm to come to her...but these things happen., just like in Sports like NFL football or Rugby, the participants go into it knowing full well of the consequences of engaging is such activities and they get paid for their troubles.

Why do these girls/women choose this genre of porn to act in?...., there are plenty of pain free opportunities in other types of cinema - including Vanilla?. Is it because the SEX is usually simulated? Is it more acceptable to be in a Bondage Production than in a consensual Sex production?

No, I don't feel guilty, but I do feel concerned for the safety of the actress in question - I remember a particular brutal scene in 'South of Border 7" in which a female captive is bound, hung upside down and her mouth stuffed with rags and then sealed shut with tape, she looked as if she was convulsing for real and her eyes looked as if they were going to pop and expire., if it was all acted out it was one of the best bondage scenes I've ever seen, if she faked it she's a great actress.

If I felt 'guilt' of any sort I wouldn't be watching these films.

Cheers

TVK

I am in possession of several "private" custom videos from several adult producers that I used to lend uniforms to.

These videos were given to me on condition that they "never see the light of day", in other words, that I never share, give or sell them to anyone. I'm still in good standing with some that are still in business, and I want that to remain so.

If you had paid big bucks for an "exclusive, private custom video" that is all your fantasy, would you be a little upset that the producer gave a copy to someone who ( as has been suggested in the e-mails to me ) sold it, shared it (on rapidshare) or traded it for other videos???

Thanks for your interest, but please don't ask me to share, I have promised I wouldn't.

And- I no longer loan out uniforms, only have a couple left, and was burned too many times in the last year or so by the current crop of producers ( one who maintains he lost it, but is still cranking out content with it)

Dalhia: Thanks for the comments on my story. When no one responded, I was beginning to doubt I would finish it. Now I more than likely will. Jefferson

You have a lot of wisdom, dude. I agree with everything you said.

This board benefits greatly from your insightful posts. Hopefully it's reciprocal and you get a few sales out of it.

I can just relate my personal experience. Not that I would EVER rape anyone (I NEVER would, I have too much empathy for other people). But ... porn sure makes life easier for me.

I was born with an incredibly high sex drive. Why? I don't know. Testosterone overload? It certainly preceded my exposure to porn, so one can't "blame" that.

The thought that it is physically based is bolstered by the fact that when I have been prescribed various medicines in my life whose side effects included guaranteed libido-lowering, they did not have that effect on me at all.

So, what is a walking "Id," a 24-7 erectioned freak of nature, supposed to do to keep himself a productive member of society? :)

Porn. Porn is a blessing, one of life's abundant things of beauty and goodness and utility. Religious nuts should be worshipping its goodness, not denouncing it.

Oh ... and I note in passing that many earlier pre-modern cultures indeed did worship it.

One thing I hate about aggressive moralizers is their refusal to ever consider the other sides of every coin. That porn has enormous benefits to society is certainly one of its truths.

zee-ef-ex

>And Mister Gord: you would see me soon but one thing I am telling you right, I have a big water phobia and fire too, so please have mercy.

Damn! Guess we'll have to cancel the water wheel scene as per the movie "Last kiss goodbye" and cancel the fire department we arranged as backup for the dangling damsel in the burning factory.

Guess the barbequed Dahlia scene will also have to go

Don't ya just hate it when that happens?

You sure you want to cancel the factory fire scene Dahlia, we had a really buffed firefighter arranged to come rescue with his big fire axe and kinky rubber boots. :-)))

Gord

If I am elected president.....we'll launch an air attack....we'll drop tens of millions of porno mags over the middle east...saving millions of lives and liberating an entire culture without firing a single shot!

Somebody needs to make that movie...

Thanks for the wisdom compliment Zee-ef-ex.....I think a lot of people are in the same camp but they can't admit to it without fear of persecution. Our news media is even afraid to talk about it. How come government isn't funding graduate students in psychology to study the impact of porn if they think its so bad???? There's a ton of new data out there. Are they afraid of what they might find? Or maybe they are out of money because they spent it all on killing people. The next generation will have a better shot at it.

Too realistic? – Realism is the multiplier or the ‘volume control’ to any video. If the scene is stuff I like (primarily tit or cunt whipping and torture of well-stacked babes), I like as much realism as possible. But if it involves stuff I don’t like (gore, snuff, asphyx, hitting the face, hands or other ‘non-sexual’ areas, maiming or mutilation, etc.), then realism just makes the scene more repulsive.

Guilt? – This took a bit of self-examination, but I have to say ‘No, I don’t feel guilty’. My first instinct was to say “Yes, I’d be guilty. The poor girl”. Then I thought back to some of my ‘desert island” vids, where the model clearly endured substantial pain (e.g. Insex’s ‘Blow by Blow’ starring 912, where she is obviously really being hurt by the whips, or the ‘Japanese newscaster’ clip, where a busty broadcaster has her lovely boobs mauled and punched, over her incessant crying and pleading), and it apparently didn’t get in the way of my enjoyment. As long as it’s voluntary, then I guess I wouldn’t be guilty.

It seems the new Mike Myers movie, The Love Guru, will soon start filming in Toronto. Myers will be here along with Verne Troyer (Mini Me in the Austin Powers movies).

So why should anyone care? Here's why: Jessica.

OneSickFuck: Thanks so much for your candor. I think there's a lot more people than have come out here that can identify with what you had to say about enjoying violent porn because of a deep-seeded hatred toward women. My guess is that some people use bondage films to mentally "get even" with women who have rejected them. A lot of guys have a hard time understanding women in general. They don't really hate them, but they can't understand how women are naturally attracted to guys who treat them badly, when logically, they should be going after the "nice guys". So when they don't, it's easy to get angry or hurt and want to take it out of them somehow. And since they're nice guys, they wouldn't ever consider hurting these women in real life, but in bondage films, that's another story. Bondage films provide that outlet that enables them to teach these women a lesson, so to speak. That's my theory, anyway. Anyone agree or disagree?

I think I mentioned here a few years ago that one of the reasons I loved Love Object so much was because when I saw it, I had recently broken it off with a girl who looks a lot like Melissa Sagemiller's character did in the movie. And of course, what happens in the film is that Melissa and the nerdy lead character develop a relationship, she finds out a big secret about him that causes her to leave him, and he ultimately knocks her out and ties her up and does bad stuff to her during the final third of the movie. That aspect of the film really hit home for me. It was as if he was fulfilling my own dark fantasy against the girl I had been dating in real life. That relationship ended badly, but I didn't take it out on her by tying her up, gagging her and locking her in a box. Ah, but that would have been sweet! :)

Jefferson James: The Harry Reems version of Forced Entry (not to be confused with the Nancy Allen version, the ZFX version and the Extreme Associates version...boy, that title has been used a few times) has been around as a bootleg for years. I've never seen it because as far as I could tell, there was no bondage in it. The article said the DVD is going to be made from the only existing 35mm print, so that's a good thing. It sounds like it's gonna be crammed with rape, so you should order it and review it for the forum.

What's sad though is that there's only 1 existing 35mm print of a classic film like that? Obviously, film preservation wasn't thought of when it came to grinding out porn flicks in the 1970s, but it's sad to think that some of these movies from my own generation are no longer available in any form. Years ago, Robert reviewed a film from the late 60s called The Bushwhacker (his review is right here) that sounded great, but to this day, it looks like a print has never been found and it may be lost forever. That's just not right. I never got to see it!

And who knows if the uncut version of Bloodsucking Freaks (with the hardcore sex scenes) will ever turn up? Is it, too, lost forever?

A Canadian: So Jessica Alba has a new movie she's filming. A comedy? Ho hum. Not likely she's gonna be tied up in a frickin' comedy! I don't want to see my ex-girlfriend ruining her career by making fluff. This chick has 18 bondage scenes in her career so far. She was tied up in movies twice last year, but none so far this year. Is it a coincidence that she hasn't been tied up on screen since I dumped her last year?

Of more significant news is that she recently broke it off with her latest squeeze (link in my Homepage URL). It didn't say so in the article, but I can tell you that she never really got over being with me, and this Cash dude was a poor substitute who couldn't give her what she really wanted (that being bondage sex with a really short guy with a sexy afro). I know she wants me back, but I have Aria now and I'm strictly monogamous. I only torture one woman at a time.

I saw the latest mainstream rape movie last night. It's an independent movie in limited release around the country called "Descent" starring Rosario Dawson as the victim. The movie is rated NC-17.

As mainstream movie rapes go, Jodie Foster's rape in "The Accused" a 10 and Vivian Leigh's rape in " A Streetcar Named Desire" a 0, I give this one a 4 or 5. I found a Youtube link for the trailer here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_A14-y2LYQ

What made it disappointing is that Rosario's assault occurs mainly in the dark. She doesn't expose any bare breasts. You see her legs spread with the guy in the middle of her but the dark cinematography doesn't allow you to fully see Rosario's body. Most of the what you see during the dirty deed is close ups of Rosario and her assailant kissing, including a forced tongue kiss, but that's not the same as a good force fuck.

The way it's edited, I can't tell whether Rosario is bound or her hand are held back, but she is gagged as her rapist tells her "I know you like this."

Actually, this movie is pretty boring except for the two rape scenes. That's right. Two.

Now, consider me old fashioned, but I think rape should be between only a man and a woman. Or at least a group of men on a woman.

What earns this movie it's NC-17 rating is the revenge Rosario gets on her attacker. Not only does she sodomize him with a stick, she gets a great big muscular Latino man to rape her rapist!

What's sick and disappointing is that the guy's rape is what Rosario's should have been.

You get to see him fully nude. All four of his limbs tied to the bed. The lighting is better. His ravishing lasts a lot longer and his rapist in a better mocker than he is. Calling him things like "Fruitcake". Also you get to see his face and his body shake as he's being pumped and the guy doing the pumping.

What a disappointment. If the rapes were reversed this would have been a better movie.

This was a movie for women whoever wanted to get back physically at a man.

This morning on a movie review show with Jeffrey Lyons and Alison Bailes, they both said they hated the movie. Lyon's expressed he was uncomfortable with the same sex assault. Bailes noticed and asked, doesn't the woman getting raped bother you also? Ouch! Of course he immediately said it did. (Yeah. Right).

Another reason why I say women would like this movie more is that in Bailes review she said although she didn't like it, she could relate to Dawson's character sexually torturing her abuser.

So, for you equal opportunity rape fans out there, this is the movie for you.

As long as we're talking about realistic torture, I wanted to let you all know that the "Girls of War" movie I posted about a few weeks back was released today.

I downloaded all 3 parts ($10 each), and for 35 of the 45 minutes of the movie, wrestling hottie Valerie Wyndham ("SoCal Val") is tied up and tortured by being smacked, punched, choked, and hit with a billy club, all the while very sweaty and wearing a very revealing bikini top and thong. No blood or marks in this one, just a lot of writing around by a VERY HOT chick for my/our GIMPing pleasure. Parts 2&3 have most of the action with Val tied wrists overheard while she gets her due. Part 1 only has Val handcuffed arms behind and smacked around then taunted with a gun.

Of course another reason they do so (and the only one they'll admit to) is that they do so to attract guys who they are attracted to. Well...I've never been good-looking enough, rich enough or slick talking enough to be one of those guys and neither are the majority of males. It's always infuriated me when I'm walking down the street and see a smoking hot babe wearing low cut jeans so I can see the top of her panties, making eye contact and when she sees that I'm not what she's looking for adjusts her jeans so that I'm denied that free look that I would have gotten if I hadn't made eye contact with her. Does this happen to anyone else here?

I don't know about the rest of you but I get a big kick reading about hot looking models and actresses having personal problems after they are over the hill...Farrah Fawcett, Madonna, Sharon Stone, Cindy Crawford for example. It's like they suddenly realize that all the attention and adulation they had before wasn't about them as people at all. Lately David Beckham and his wife Victoria have been all over the news. Take a look at Victoria and it's easy to see that her best days are behind her but she's still carrying that bitchy "I'm better than you attitude". Pleeeease...this is not a long term relationship. In a few years most of her looks will be gone and then all Beckham will have left is that awful personality of hers. You think he's going to stick around for that?

We live in a culture so obsessed with physical beauty and good looks that many hot women in the western world never bother to develop mentally, intellectually or to become nice people to be around. That's my theory anyway.

On a lighter note, I found a website linked above that has "Slave Island" theme videos. It seems to be a sister site to forced4sex.com. So far they only have the first slave island flic but the other ones look interesting and I haven't heard of them.

Canadian, your review of SI7 is excellent and I neglected to say in my earlier post that it was the reason that I acquired the others. I still think that #5 is the best one but #7 is a close second.

It sounds a bit like the plot of I Spit On Your Grave, which was the ultimate rape-revenge movie, but at least the rape scenes in that film weren't toned down. I doubt an NC-17 movie will come out in a theater near me, but I'll definitely check out the DVD, although I think I'll likely turn it off halfway through. Who the hell wants to see another man get raped, even if the guy deserves it? So she's going to ask her beefy Latino friend to help her get revenge on her attacker, and he's actually going to agree to rape him? Unless he's already gay, that's a ludicrous plotline.

I added your review to the Reviews section at the link above.

Andrea Cohen: Hey, an actual girl in here! Welcome to the forum; it's always nice to get a feminine perspective on things.

With all due respect, I started the poll because I observed that it many of these movies, the victim was clearly NOT enjoying what was happening to her. I know there are masochists who enjoy pain, as it appears to be in your situation, but I think many of the girls were clearly being badly tortured and could do nothing to protect themselves because they were tied up and at the mercy of the men in the films who were abusing them. As I observed, one could not stop crying even after the cameras had stopped filming. And yet, I still loved watching watching her suffer. We guys who dig bondage films are certainly an interesting group of people.

Anyway, I am a bit curious what some of you may think of lighter sexploitation stuff, so I would like to send the first 5 people who Email me their shipping addresses a free Assmonster DVD. You don't have to post your opinions on here - you can Email me directly. Assmonster is a sort of spoof of myself and the early days of my moviemaking. It's comedy, but with lots of nudity. It's about a guy who watches a really bad home-made sexploitation DVDr that is circulated at horror conventions, and then he decides to make a movie too. There is nothing meanspirited at all. Kerri Taylor and Gina Lynn are in this one, if that makes any difference. Please also declare that you are over 18. I'll ship out on Tuesday.

Master Gord: how hot are the guys for the factory scene you are talking about it?

Just wondering

When I get to Seattle, next month I hope we can work together, maybe you can put me in the back of your truck or soemething with a medical, latex scene would be cute too.

Here some pics for my folks, recent clip, now updated in girlnextdoorbondage

Love

Dahlia Delis

Bill. . . I'll pass on the assmonster offer for now, but I will chime in to say that yes, I like "lighter" exploitation stuff too, sometimes for erotic reasons, sometimes just 'cause. I love trashy movies, even bad ones.

I have no idea how I didn't know about the Rosario Dawson thing! I'm not getting too wound up about that one. For those who think that does sound exciting, I'd recommend "I Piss on Your Grave" Eric Stanz and Emily Hack's take off on youknowwhat. It's got a pretty nasty female on male rape scene (with a plunger, if memory serves) plus other assorted sexualized violence. I didn't find it sexy, but it was pretty entertaining.

I've got a question. I've recently kind of gotten interested in female wrestling videos. Not the "bedroom" kind, but like professional wrestling. Trouble is, not much of that stuff gets into the sadistic, perverted territory I'd like. I kind of like the "Women's Extreme Wrestling" vids. They are admittedly kind of lame, but occasionally, you'll get a match where a hot girl in a thong gets held down and kicked in the crotch or manhandled by some big ugly guy or tied up and spanked or something. Like I said, this is dumb stuff, and mostly a tease, but for some reason, I find the little bits of sexual torment strangely hot. Can anybody recommend something better for me to try? Is anybody else into this?

There's a couple of other "cat-fight"sites. Also Google "belly-punching".

Unfortunately for me, the available Slave Island titles in my neighborhood start at number 6, so I doubt I will ever see Slave Island 5. It's too bad, as one of the stars, Nana Nanami, recently topped my list as the most attractive Slave Island victim I have seen so far (I saw her in Slave Island 8).

I think the Slave Island movies are one of the big GIMP site discoveries of 2007.

It features women wrestlers in seven Extreme-style matches. I have often thought I might want to see this one, and would certainly welcome your feedback if you do decide to check it out.

1) I don't think I get turned on by realism as much as the closeness of a particular scene to what constitutes my own fantasies, or what's most "realistic" relating to a perfect fantasy scene in my mind's eye. Yes, some degree of theatricality is usually present in scenes I enjoy, for example, a more active role by the "victim" in question. This is due in large part to my handgag/chloro fetish. If the girl is acting so terrified that she can barely make a sound, it may be quite true to some of the possible real-life responses, but it doesn't turn me on much at all. There has to be a range of "distressed" reactions and emoting, from feisty to desperate. Actresses like Jenni Lee, Amber Michaels, Mary Jane, Dahlia (whom I'm proud to mention in the same sentence), some of the ZFX alumni, and semi-anonymous Bindher chicks achieve this quite well sometimes. Even Monica Bellucci did.

Now as far as torture is concerned, I was never very hardcore about that, so I generally tend not to like anything involving blood (only the threat of cutting), asphyxiation (other than chloro), and anything that can cause death. What attracted me to ZFX in the first place was the capture scenes, hands-on torture (groping, spanking, fondling, that seemed to go on for hours in some videos), penetration scenes, and their humor/creativity, not necessarily their more extreme stuff.

2) Yes, I would feel guilty if I knew that the actress or the girl in question was forced to act in a certain scene and/or was not enjoying herself. Part of it comes from a certain past that I've grappled with that some of ya'll know - dating a real-life rape victim for a time. When I'm acting out fantasies with my partners sometimes I get concerned that I may be hurting them too much, when they in fact want more!:) I do know that most of the performers out there actually do enjoy their work, and are more genuinely into it than professional hard core porn stars are into theirs. I really wish that some of them spoke out more and "evangelized" about their passion for bondage and force fantasy. Jenni Lee was in a great position to do that for Kink.com, but alas, she retired. Too bad she never worked for ZFX either ;)

-- The Gimp

I do know that most of the performers out there actually do enjoy their work, and are more genuinely into it than professional hard core porn stars are into theirs. I really wish that some of them spoke out more and "evangelized" about their passion for bondage and force fantasy.

And a really nice point - I actually thought about this as a poll question, but I don't know if we have enough models here to make it a viable poll. However, we certainly do have a few great producers here, and they might be able to give some insight into this question:

Why do bondage stars do what they do?

Now, I think the answer that applies to vanilla porn (for money) would probably be less of a factor for BDSM porn. I think in the old days, many actresses in BDSM films were unattractive to the point that there was no way they could make money other than by doing the most degrading sort of films (itself an issue related somewhat to the current poll). Nowadays, though, bondage fans are lucky enough that there are lots of performers with nice body shapes and faces (although they often bugger them up with piercings/tattoos, but that's another discussion).

So here are some reasons that I came up with, but that's based on nothing at all other than a 'wise ass guess':

(a) They are genuine pain sluts, and getting paid to be tortured is as much a no-brainer as guys getting paid to get blow jobs;

(b) They love the idea of having men watching their bodies and getting turned on;

(c) They do it as a personal challenge, like going on Fear Factor;

(d) They do it to work through personal issues (eg abuse);

(e) They don't mind pain, but do it more as a fun experience, like skydiving or something.

Any insights or ideas on this?

Ralphus: You have mentioned a few times the actress who could not stop crying after the scene was over as a possible indication of her limits being exceeding. I have known numerous pain sluts that crave extreme BDSM to cry, or laugh, uncontrollably for a long time after a scene. The body releases some serious drugs. That's why some of them do what they do.

Vince: Thanks for the heads up on Descent.

Jefferson

Why do bondage stars do what they do?

Excellent topic, although you're right, we don't really have enough bondage performers who read this forum to give us their insight as to why they do what they do. I'd be the last person to know what these women are thinking, but my speculation is that it's probably a number of factors that give them the impetus to be tied up in front of the camera.

I have the feeling a lot of them really are into being tied up and being tortured; one of the more interesting features of the old Insex clips is that oftentimes PD would interview the girls before and afterward and let them describe what they expected and how it really felt during a particular session. I think a lot of them really are painsluts who are into this type of scene; although personally, knowing they enjoy it takes a bit away from the fantasy. I'm like Hail in that I'd rather see good acting as opposed to realism, especially when I know that they are consenting to their abuse. I can truly say that the best stuff I saw from Insex was some of the earlier stuff when he was still doing nonconsensual plotlines. He broke ground with a lot of unique torture setpieces, but all the later stuff was unfortunately more like Bondage Fear Factor with willing performers, most of whom didn't appeal to me physically.

Here's a question for any of the producers who've worked with these girls: What do you think makes them want to appear in bondage films? Steve, Dave, Rick, Sarge, Dan, Gord, Silverback...the floor is yours. Anything you can share about working with these unique ladies?

Jefferson

Once in a great while you'll find a gal that does it because she wants to be dominated in an environment of trust but that is rare. You'll also get one occassionally that is making a fuck you statement to someone or something in her past.

Most of the models I've worked with were tied up at some point. It's getting more rare to find a gal that hasn't been tied up. I've had two models that did it to overcome a bondage phobia because they were tied up and abused. They wanted to relive the experience in an environment of trust to exorcise a demon. Every once in a huge while you'll find one that is so horny she just wants to get spanked hard and fucked. I like those the best.

Whatever the circumstance, before I shoot with a model, I try to talk her out of it first. I don't want her guilt coming back to haunt me. She needs to be totally kinky and willing to accept the consequences of being found out or I won't shoot with her.

What are you going to do if your husband, future husband, dad, or boss finds out about this? If she doesn't have a good answer....it isn't worth shooting with her.

A recent such model told me of being married to a sexually boring guy. He wasn't meeting her needs, and she divorced him, only to work with me and have one of her fantasies played out. (I'm referring to my video "Nakita").

In regard to the poll I can tell you the reasons for girls getting into the industry are as different as the girls themselves.

For many the promise of easy money is a starting place. Many times a girl can make more in one day than they could in an entire month working at Walmart. Some have come from the lifestyle in real life and make their way to the movies. However the lifestyle offers few really desirable models from my experience. A lot of girls are into bondage and they don't even know it. I have seen a few cases break my heart, young very beautiful and drug baked, those girls often burn out or end up dead. Maya who has the key to my heart got into the biz from the lifestyle, I am a very lucky guy and always figured that I would find my love in this business.

If you have a favorite model, chances are she has a story and it won't be like anything that seen in your computer screen. The ones that blow my mind are the one hit wonders, you know the type, a totally hot piece of ass that appears long enough to take your breath away and is never seen again. I have had girls call me begging not to release footage because of fears family might see it. When I can I usually pull that footage. Or when I know of a model that dies I may pull the footage to help them out.

Well, a self-report is an interesting place to start, but if there are any Freudians here, you may know that a person is not usually aware of his/her unconscious processes. In any case, it is not a good idea to generalize the self-reports of a few girls to the entire population of bondage/sexploitation starlets.

Sativa Verte shot a bondage/rape scene for "Frankenstein the Rapist" but she wouldn't act in "The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made" because in that movie Jesus masturbates through the hole in his hand. She said that her audience would be turned off. That's actually something I find to be very peculiar - people who watch brutal rapes on screen who condemn blasphemous humor. In any case, I did not try to convince Sativa to shoot anyway. I get so many submissions that I don't really need to pitch a movie role to anyone - actually, I would never talk anyone into doing anything (you either want to do it or you don't - not my job to tell you otherwise).

Getting back to the self-report of some of the scream queens - they feel like they are manipulating the audience, and in some cases, taking advantage of the director. But girls from a different category, porn stars, have sometimes shared with me their desire to hurt their parents. Again, it's not a good idea to apply that answer to all people in that category.

When I was at the last horror convention, someone asked me where I find all these girls with low self esteem. I asked him why he thinks they have low self esteem. He said it was because they get naked in my movies. He was completely baffled by the notion that some of the girls in my movies are trained actresses who are topless in my movies but not in the mainstream movies that they usually get cast. The reason for that is because they like the experimental nature of some of my ideas - mainstream movies don't have that quality and nudity in those movies seems shallow and gratuitous (to these actresses). It also surprised this person that some girls don't eroticize their breasts, especially in certain situations. In their opinion, it's really a neurotic guy who gets stupid about seeing naked tits. I personally find breasts to be highly erotic, unless they are misshapen, droopy, or whatever, but I do understand the attitude of some of these actresses. Although I have noticed some scream queens have low self esteem, I don't understand why this guy said the term "low self-esteem" as if it were something to be hated and a thing to blame the woman for. His scorn should have been directed at himself for his lack of pity.

Most of the scream queens, actresses, porn stars, and models whom I've met are very approachable - just act normal. They are generally very open about what they do and maybe you can get a better understanding on a case-by-case basis.

ANYWAYYY. . . I really can't speak about why a girl might want to let Sarge tie her up for money, but I for one don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with someone who would consent to that. I think that mainstream porn shoots are waaay more degrading and way more dangerous. A girl who would let fifty guys fuck her in the ass and then come on her face I'd worry about. A girl who would let a sensitive guy like Sarge or Jeff or Rick tie her up and slap her tits is probably fine.

That is such a good question that I find my friends asking me all the time

I think some would be happier if I did porn or be an escort girl, people are so judgmental it makes me sick

Why I do what I do?

Because I can

Because it is empowering to know that some guy is paying money and getting off watching me in distress, or smoking

Because I have a high pain tolerance and I love to act, fuck mainstream modeling, I don't do bondage cause I'm not pretty enough to be a "regular" model, I do bondage cause it makes me feel things, makes me feel free

I used to feel guilty about putting ideas and images on men's minds and I used to think that they would go and kidnap and rape somebody after watching my videos

I passed that phase now and I just think if they do it in big Hollywood movies, like Saw, Hostel, etc. and make millions why not do it myself and have more control of what I do

When I was a kid my mom asked me what I wanna be when I grow up?

I answered horror movie actress!!!!

I was 10, little fucked up already, but I knew I wanna to act and create fantasies for people, and fear and sex are the most powerful things you can portray.

And now I'm kind of there, I also remember seeing a photo of Miss Bettie Page tied up and smiling and I thought that it look like so much fun, that was an innocence about her and she was all tied up and been spanked and she was having a great time, for sure

Also cause I like to act scared, I like to be in distress, and even if I don't make big bucks like the bitch in Captivity is better than working in the Gap you know

In my private life I just do it with my man, I'm not into the whole L.A fetish scene (disgusting) when people go to clubs and beat each other up to show off and show how much pain they can take, I hate those posers

I wont have bondage play sex if I'm having a one night stand (which I stop having those when i was 20)

Sex and bondage and fetish are so sacred for me and I love it, I do it for myself, for money, and for you guys to enjoy

Getting somebody off and knowing they like my work is just awesome

Because is sacred I have my own limits, I wont do anything on camera that I wont do in real life, no matter what it is, I'm not pooping in guys's faces, I'm not wearing diapers and calling you daddy, all that at least for me is horrible

But who am I to judge anybody?

I do it cause I love it and because I can, simple as that.

Oh boy, that was the longest comment ever, I'm sorry, well I'm not, anyway thanks for finishing my history Jefferson J, I'm gonna go read it right now.

Kisses and love

Dahlia Delis

I once had the fortune to talk to several at a Fetish Con... one said that when she was a young girl and the TV would show a damsel in distress, she'd think to herself "I wish someone would do that to me"...

And another said that she had already been modeling when a photographer asked "Can you touch your elbows together behind your back?" and she said yes, so that's 2 reasons.

I keep getting asked for my opinion. Have I been listed in some "Who's Who of Ghuru's" or something ? :-)

I can only speak on behalf of the models we have used at House of Gord, or been girl friends of wives, who have confided in me. That is most of them.

I actually take exception to the comments by Darkroom, at least where my gals are concerned. To "generalize" that all girls into bondage and objectification are the results of abuse or trauma as a child is bullshit.

More than one psychologist I have discussed this with are of the opinion that it is not uncommon for a woman to claim abuse as the trigger and or motivation for sexual deviation (I hate that term) because they feel the need to justify their kink in a way that takes the blame away from themselves. So clearly this is a very complex subject that cannot just be slotted into a category as Darkroom would wish.

The vast majority of bondage ladies I have met allude to having bondage fantasies at a very early age, and to having a great childhood with good parents. They own up to their kink and are very proud of it.

It is much the same for me.

I am a self made man. I got kinked all on my own and I can't blame anyone else for it.

I was not abused, I had great parents, I had a very gentle and caring Mom and a really great Father. If anything I got bullied by guys as I was a late developer in the height department. I so why am I not tying up guys and beating the shit out of them now that I can ?

Bound women, especially wearing net tights have always been an object of my admiration and fantasy from the age of five, and yet my Mom never wore net tights.

No doubt there are child abused bondage models, but to just trot out that generalization is an insult to many women who have actively pursued bondage because it is there in their genes, and a very strong part of who they are.

Darkroom is basically saying they should be pitied as damaged goods. Well maybe that works fine for his fetish image of women, but as sure as hell, that is bordering on offensive and is going to piss off a lot of the strong minded, self assured chicks I have played with who had great unmolested childhoods.

One other comment I saw was that lots of these gals are basically drop outs who could not make it in the fuck-n-suck mainstream adult industry due to looks, tattoos, or whatever.

Maybe that is also true in many cases, but it is also a generalization that I have a problem accepting in any real sense.

I have heard the other side of the coin, as have other webmasters who ran into this problem. Some of the mainstream girls drop out and try bondage because they perceive it to be an easier way to make money than getting fucked every day with all the risks of infections. They book bondage gigs, and then never even manage to get halfway tied up before they back out. They do not realize that most of the best bondage models are dedicated ladies who love bondage, and above all are basically gymnastic stunt-cunts. Nothing derogatory intended there ladies, Fem-Car coined that phrase for me when referring to herself, and it made me laugh as it is so true.

But I digress; - Indeed there are many factors; - one of which I have research at length with Psychologists and Sexologists. A very strong theme is the womb syndrome;- the ability of women to subconsciously regress to the time of being in the womb, in a state of security, feeling the pressure of the mother's body surrounding her, and basically in a perfect environment. The general consensus of opinion is that a far greater percentage of women can relate to this state because they carry the same equipment, ergo are a lot more in touch with it biologically.

I would say this is definitely a very strong motivation for the girls who love cocoons, all-over tight bondage and sensory deprivation. Two have actually told me that the Bitch Bender felt like being squeezed in an all over bear hug, and referred to comments by me on this subject to being accurate in their opinion. Without going into even greater detail, Oh fuck it, why not? You are either already bored shit-less and have moved on, or are fascinated by the waffling of Jeff Gord

Another strongly voiced opinion amongst researchers is that much of this stems from inherent genes that are a relic of the past. Society has crushed many of the survival instincts humans needed, because they are politically incorrect now. But in the days when humans were climbing out of the swamp, the female knew that an offspring sired by a weak male was probably not going to make it. She knew that unless the male was strong enough to subdue and take her, the kid would probably be a wimp

But then society outlawed the bonk on the head with a club and dragging the chick back to the cave for a good rogering. So what now? The demon genes found other ways to replay the taking of the woman. The old phrase all women want to be raped actually needs rewriting. It should read, "All women want to be taken - preferably by a man of their choice."

In bondage, the bound woman is "taken" she is "overcome" she is "available" The male is in "control", he is in "a position of strength" The bondage scenario has satisfied the demon gene in both genders playing the game, and if it is consensual bondage, the rules of currently society are also satisfied. Here is a great example of how this power complex manifests in another way that is not bondage. Take the scrawny wimpy, gawky looking little guy who is married to an Amazon of staggering beauty who could flatten him with one well aimed punch. You may ask yourself, what the fuck happened there? Simple! He may be a captain of the stock market, of industry or whatever. The female gene probably saw that as a symbol of strength and power that she wanted for her offspring so that it would survive. The gold digging money angle, if present, also factors into that as well. It is still the power and survival instincts of the first species of humans, "The female." How the fuck it ever got to be that men were created first is bullshit. Women ARE the crucible of life. Dicks were probably invented as an afterthought on Friday afternoon, but that's another story :-)))

Now I know many are going to immediately pop up a thousand variations that don't fit that idea, but if you really do think hard about it, they all do in some way or another, but through the mists of time the pressures of society and the inventiveness of thinking sexual people has found a gazzillion ways to vary that gene theme. The most common argument is, well why do guys also like getting into bondage. Answer, it is all about variations. There is no true black and white in gender. In fact guys are on a knife edge of sexual indecision, a gene balancing act that is unstable at best.

So to boil it all down, why do chicks do bondage in a tongue in cheek way?

1/ Because they can do it voluntarily these days. They have the choice to be a submissive

2/ Because the majority like to get off on it for all the reason above and few more besides.

3/ Because a lot of them really like to relax in the knowledge that they are not responsible for feeling supremely pleasurable sensations that they cannot escape or refuse. It gives them license to ignore all the religious guilt heaped on people over the centuries that has worked its way into our subconscious no matter how much we ignore it..

4/ Because the demon gene demands satisfation.

So summing up, if my overview of why they do it is wrong, then I must have been supremely lucky in the ladies I have had the honour to play with. Given their numbers I have to speculate that my view is founded on a fairly substantial database.

Okay the Ghuru has spoken people, so it must be all true.

Have a good day Ya'all

Jeff Gord

(viva la bondage chick, may all their orgasms be big ones)

Just read over the post I made and need to correct a politically INCORRECT statement, like:-

"All women want to be taken - preferably by a man of their choice."

I my defense is a brain fart as a result of being a died in the wool guy-on-chick hetro player. I forgot that lots of chicks play with chicks, so maybe this should read:-

"All women want to be taken - preferably by a PERSON of their choice." :-))))

Okay ladies, may I take my foot out of my mouth now?

And the other obvious reason I forgot was picked up by Dahlia. The ladies get power from being the center of attention and it must really feel great to know that even though they are bound, they are causing thousands of dicks worldwide to stand to attention. Now that is a POWER trip.

Gord

Sgtmajor struck my mind with "The ones that blow my mind are the one hit wonders, you know the type, a totally hot piece of ass that appears long enough to take your breath away".

I don´t know if it is a one hit wonders, but tonights picture "Sweet and innocent" does exactly that to me. Excuse me if this is a ignorant question, but is there a chance to see more from these Insex pictures today? Where can we see more of todays "Sweet and innocent" girl?

Machine Head

Machine Head 2: Cold Metal

Machine Head 3: Rage Against the Machine

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Subject 9 PT#2: Point of Entry

Also under August Releases put up: Sgt. Majors: Bondage Classics One

Accountse: The "Sweet and innocent" girl was Tyler Scot, who did some incredible stuff for Insex, along with other producers, including at least 3 appearances for Dan Hawke. She's retired now, but she gave it her all when she was working. Except for the tattoos, she was darn near perfect in my book. You can find a bunch of pics of her in my Homepage URL above.

New ZFX: Great to see the Machine Head series is finally out. Like a lot of ZFX's multiple-tape series, this is one that got even better as it went along. It's got a lot of sci-fi weirdness in it, but it's pretty entertaining, especially the 2nd and 3rd chapters. Part 3 also featured (I think) the first appearance of sexy Monica Moore, one of my favorite ZFX victims. And Point of Entry is another winner with Penelope Pace (pre-boob job) being tortured primarily by Bryan Dunhill and Chandra Sweet. 4 worthwhile titles from arguably ZFX's best and most productive era.

Is funny how some people think that are this girls like Tyler and other ones are pain sluts and would do anything, let me tell you for 1000 bucks a session she probably did not mind getting hurt a little, there lots of money to make doing extreme bondage, fuck machines and all that, but a good actress might make you think that he is loving it or that he is crying out of pain what actually happens is she thinking and getting home and taking a shower and redo her nails.

So don't get fool by the "oh the bitches do anything, cause they are pain sluts"

And yes Master Gord is pretty much a power trip but for me is also liberating, a control freak fix, cause in real life I'm the most obsessive and control freak girl ever, so bondage for me is like ohhhh now I don't have to take care of anything, I have no control, and I'm helpless and sometimes for money or not it feels pretty damn good.

And I'm sorry but not ALL women want to be taken, ALL women want to be loved.

i know I'm a cheese ball but is just my little girlie opinion

Thanks guys, I like these, some people here are fucking brilliant (you know who you are)

Ok goodnite nite, I need to take something for my insomnia before I become a living corspe, I need to sleep!!!

Dahlia Delis

Some people here are fucking brilliant (you know who you are).

Well, thank you. I try not to let it go to my head.

Looks like we're back, finally. Dreambook went down sometime this morning and didn't come back til after 6 this evening. Thanks for all the e-mails, but I really can't do anything when Dreambook decides to fuck up and knock us out of cyberspace with no warning. According to Dreamhost, they fixed whatever the bug was that was giving them problems, so hopefully this won't happen again. Or at least it won't happen until the NEXT time. After dealing with these schmoes for 8 years, I guarantee you there will be a next time.

Dreambook will continue to suck, much in the same way that I'll continue to be fucking brilliant. Thanks for noticing, Dahlia :)

Why are certain actresses attracted to Bondage films? -mmm...Curiosity? Money? Although I'd say the 'dinero' $$$$ in Vanilla Porn would be a whole more generous! Maybe they are fulfilling a fantasy? Some do really climax while being manacled...I do think LISA K. has reached orgasm while tied up in one of her films (I believe a climax scene in one of her films is for real- she's not faking)- Drugs? Doing a favour for a boyfriend or pimp who owes money? Testing the limits of human endurance (Women seem to be stronger at least psychologically than men). To get their faces on film....women like attention...to prove a point?

I hope that helps....Cheers to you Gimpoids!!!

YOU WILL ASSIMILATE - RESISTANCE IS FUTILE - JOIN THE GIMP_BORG COLLECTIVE

Sorry! Too many Star Trek Voyager episodes lately.....hey, Ralphus any pictures of Jeri Ryan in Bondage? (she plays the character 7of 9 in the Voyager series...what a babe!!!...oh, geeez!! Now everyone knows I'm a TREKKIE

hey, Ralphus any pictures of Jeri Ryan in Bondage? (she plays the character 7of 9 in the Voyager series...what a babe!!!

Actually, I do, courtesy of BondoCleave. Sorry, don't have any of her in that skintight uniform she would wear on the show :)

Why do women do bondage porn? There are only a few reasons for this. First, of course there are the women who actually enjoy bondage but these are the tiniest minority. They are also the hardest to identify.

There are basically two main reasons. The first is that bondage porn as it has been up until very recently did not involve sex and typically had less nudity. By doing bondage porn a woman can make some bucks and avoid the stigma of being someone who fucks on film. Rather she can make the claim that she does "erotic modeling" which has a certain cache to it. You might say that women in this category do not view their work as being sex work. These women do not live a bondage lifestyle, are only interested in the money and subscribe to the belief that "Hey, if I didn't fuck the guy then it's not sex.". They might even save their work and show it to their friends but only to joke about how little they had to do and how much they were paid. I would put our board poster Dahlia in this category but that's just my opinion. Hey Honey, drop the laundry.

The third category involves women who made a conscious decision to get into the porn industry. These gals all have the same goal: make huge amounts of money as quick as possible and then get out. Unfortunately for them and fortunately for us porn doesn't have the same stigma as it used to so there are more and more chicks lining up to do porn. Not every good looking girl is going to be able to make big dough or even make a living doing fuck films anymore, there's just too many of them. It's just a simple matter of economics.

The result of this is that some realize that they're not going to become the next Jenna Jameson, make millions of bucks, drive a Ferrari and get a book deal. So what do they do? They take the jobs they can get versus the jobs that they want. As they do more and more bondage porn they console themselves that “Hey this ain’t so bad, maybe I can make a name for myself as a niche performer.” A couple of names come to mindÖAshley Renee, Tanya Danielle. Is there anyone here that thinks butterface Ashley could hold her own next to Kira Kener or Lexus? Of course not but I betcha Ashley Renee is rolling in the dough.

One case study worth noting is the porn actress Amy Reid aka Devin Valencia. This babe has/had the best natural hooters I've ever seen. She got into nude modeling, then gradually traveled down the “depravity trail” next dildoing herself, then hardcore and when the rent and visa card payments were due I think she took what she could get and did the BDSM stuff. I think poor Amy would give up bondage porn in a heartbeat if she got a contract as a “Vivid player” but that's just my opinion.

Another case study is the porn actress Stacy Burke. Ten years ago this was one of the hottest babes doing softcore stuff. Then she dropped out of the scene for a while. I had to laugh when “hogtied.com” featured her a while back doing her first world debut hardcore/bondage scene. It didn't even look like her. They might as well have dug up Jackie O’ and princess Grace, rubbed their bones together and called it their first “lesbian debut”. Ha Ha, OK maybe it wasn't that bad. Stacy's hottest work was “The Barn” and I hope she got paid on this one ‘cause it was definitely hot and she ain’t gonna be in the next one.

I think that a lot of what I've written here will rub some people the wrong way but like the saying goes “The truth will set you fee but it will also piss you off”.

Damn straight! (See, I'm the one she's calling brilliant! Me!!!!!!!!!!!!)

This is simply adorable...! Good luck with Seattle! Do you still have yet-to-be-released GNDB scenes in store?

Thx1139: I'm very interested in downloadable software that clips rm and wmv formats quickly/easily without taking up much bandwidth. Does such a thing even exist??

-- The Gimp

This gem I recently discovered. It stars the lovely Maria Ozawa. Maria is Eurasian and resembles Phoebe Cates. The movie has some sort of story about a beautiful TV reporter but being in Japanese its hard to say what it is though. The movie cuts back and forth in what appears to be flashbacks so its hard to figure out storywise.

Let me preface here something. Someone recently posted here about Japanese porn has a limited appeal because all the actresses had the same body types and faces. I must agree, in fact often times when they're naked together I get confused as to who is who.

Maria O is smoking hot. Not just her face either. Being half European and having played sports in high school she has a Playboy playmate type of body.

The movie starts off with Maria doing a newscast, then cuts to her dressed in the hot little business suit outfit shown in the promo pic above. She's shown doing something on a laptop in an office setting. Some bald guy comes in talks to her, nothing happens and she gets up and leaves.

Walking down the hallway she's confronted by some security guard. They exchange some harsh words and security guy punches her in the stomach. She collapses to the floor and gets dragged into one of the offices. Once there Security guy lets her know who's boss and strips off that hot little outfit til she's totally naked. And yes, she is wearing that same cute lingerie shown in the promo pic. He forces her to suck him but she complies a little too easily. Then he bangs her hard in a few different positions before cumming inside her pussy. This scene ends showing a closeup of Maria’s pussy with jizz running out (a common thing in these types of Jap movies).

The next scene finds our heroine in a mental hospital ward wearing a straight jacket then a bathrobe. A doctor enters, talks to her, shows her a big needle he wants to inject her with and she tries to flee. Too bad the door's locked and Doc strips her naked and has his way with her.

The next scene is Maria being brought into a hospital room in a wheelchair in a drugged state where she sucks off a bunch of guys who appear to be patients, again just a little too willingly I thought. Then she's dildoed by the doctor while a bunch of hospital patients stand around stroking themselves (kinda weird).

Next scene Maria is back in the newsroom office having a discussion with the bald guy from the beginning of the flick. She’s wearing another hot little miniskirt/business jacket/blouse outfit. We don't know what's being said but Baldy overpowers Maria, strips her naked and has his way with her. While watching this scene it occurred to me that Maria willingly gives BJ’s in this movie but when the fucking starts she acts all agonized and whatnot. Just the same it's a good scene though.

The next scene has Maria tied up nude with arms over head in some dark room. Baldy enters and gropes her some. Then he takes out a bottle of oil and covers her body with it. He takes a vibrator and works her pussy over and then uses a dildo on her forcing her to orgasm. This scene works because we see Maria in all her naked glory tied up helpless being covered with oil.

We next see Maria tied Japanese rope style in a chair wearing her hot little outfit.

Conclusion: This is your standard run of the mill Japanese forced sex flick. What sets it apart though is the beautiful Maria, her hot little miniskirt/business suit outfits and her sexy underwear all being ripped off. Her body and face are second to none in these types of flicks.

She also does some voice over during the scenes as is done in some of the Slave Island episodes. We don't know what she's saying but the sound of her voice is sexy and by the tone of it she's obviously not talking about what a great time she's having. As I mentioned in a previous review the fact that these movies are in Japanese is cool because you can use your imagination as you like. In this movie though my curiosity is stoked as to why she ended up in a mental hospital and what the interaction with Baldy is all about.

Maria did one other forced sex film with this production company before they parted ways. I'm in the process of downloading it as I write. Judging from the promo pic though I don't think it will be as good though. If you're a fan of forced sex or Maria O then this reporter vid is for you. I give it A+

I over the past couple of years, I have bought more videos from AES Productions than from anyone else, mostly because I am a huge fan of Eryn Walker and Lindsey Sinclaire. Eryn is one of the girls I wonder about a lot. She never seemed to be too into the bondage aspect, and certainly not the porn or the fetish aspect (or even the acting aspect, when compared with fellow AES'er and master thespian Jordan Berlin). She just seemed to be an easy going, friendly girl who made a LOT bondage videos where she showed up, had a gun pulled on her, and got tied up three times, then went home.

So, I always wondered how she got into doing these videos and why she did three or so years worth and dropped out. I picture guys like Ken Scott and Jay Edwards, in addition to placing help wanted ads, hanging around strip clubs, modeling agencies and offering girls work, and probably getting a reputation in the dancer's circles as friendly guys who could help them make some good money. I suppose Eryn might have been a stripper, but somehow I picture her working in a record store.

Hopefully you guys read my ruminations on Penelope Pace a few months back. Again, It was more full of questions than answers.

Hiccup: Now, as far as Stacy Burke goes, I also noticed the abrupt change in her appearance, and wondered what happened. The suddenness of it left me a little puzzled. Anyone who follows Lindsey Sinclaire might have noticed a similar abrupt change recently. She looks REALLY different. Let's be gentlemen, though, since we don't know what happened. Christina Carter had a serious health problem and almost died last year (then returned to modeling, thank god) and it could be something like that, so let's not get snarky about it.

As far as Ashley Renee goes, you have her in your third category when she easily belongs in, and pretty much defines, your second. The diminished opportunity field you describe in your third category certainly did not exist when she entered bondage modeling. Also, She spent a few years as one of the two premier Bondage Models, and still looks dynamite. She can hardly be thought of as some kind of second stringer.

I've never seen a Maria Ozawa movie, but I know she's a huge fan favorite over at Javtalk.com. So it looks like the Nakadashi Raped a Beautiful TV Reporter movie is one that's worth checking out. Thanks for the review.

Apparently, she has a huge fanbase. BTW, one of the external links in the Wikipedia page has an interview with her that lists her name, birthplace, measurements and...blood type! Seriously. She has blood type A. I guess that information will come in handy if she ever needs a transfusion and one of her legion of fans wants to donate blood for her. Whacky.

Another one of the links says she's going to be making a film with Attackers. How cool is that? I wouldn't expect they'll treat her real rough, but that's one I wanna check out.

Hiccup: Thanks so much for the review. I added it to the Reviews section along with a link that has stills from the movie.

http://zfxetc.tripod.com/reviews/japanreviews/jap_nakadashiraped.htm

I've been away for a while. Nice to log in and see that things haven't changed--informative posts on the bondage industry, some nice reviews, Dahlia pics and Dreambook screwing up again.

As for the poll question, I think the experts have said it all. Still, I'm inclined to believe that money is the key factor for most of the models. In the interview on Tyler Scot's website, she says, "I was tired of working 40+ hours in a factory, so I thought I would give bondage modeling a try." (Her first gig was with Dan Hawke.) And Lisa Kinkaid, describing how she got into ZFX, wrote on this board: "A friend of mine who worked for Rick at the time told me about it and I needed money so I decided to try it."

But whatever the reason, I'm just glad they do it.

Here's a bit of info on Maria Ozawa's blood type. Japanese tend to believe that blood types determine one's personality to a certain extent. In fact, every Japanese person I've met knows their blood type. I've even heard that some potential marriages in Japan are canceled because the would-be spouse has the "wrong" blood type. Imagine getting dumped because you have Type-O blood. I don't know if that's true or not, but it would make a good revenge plot for an Attackers movie. For more on that (off-)topic, see the above URL.

Sorry for my long absence, but I wanted to respond to the poll regarding how us bondage models got into the biz. I suppose I can answer for myself and the numerous models I work with for Centaur Celluloid.

Well, as many here have suspected is the case with most bondage models, I got into it for the money. At the time, I found myself flat broke, between jobs and the rent way overdo. I saw Isaac's ad in the paper promising "no sex, no pain" and I thought, "How hard can it be?" I took my first check immediately to the grocery store! That's how broke I was (which was totally my own fault as I was terrible with money back then. Luckily, Isaac is good with money, so I am better shape now!)

This is going to sound extremely naive, but it's 100% true. I did not even know what bondage was when I first met Isaac nor did I even realize that the fantasies I'd had growing up were "bondage." On my website, I have a page titled "About Me." Everything I say there is true. I had bondage fantasies as a child as young as 8, of men kidnapping me in the woods, tying me to a table, and molesting me. I was never harmed in the fantasies; they were not brutal and I always enjoyed myself. I still think my Catholic upbringing that "sex was bad" was the catalyst that made my mind turn to forced orgasms in order to enjoy sex.

Be that as it may, I was always tied spread eagle in my fantasies and so I found myself turned on during the photo shoot with Isaac when he had me tied spread eagle to the bed. I felt really stupid about that as I left.

As it turns out, I did enjoy the shoot (and the money, which was only $35/hour back then!!) and so started traveling around getting a few jobs. That didn't last long because I soon discovered there were too many creeps out there and I almost got raped in real life, so I went back home and got a "regular" job for a few years until Isaac and I started my website.

I honestly do have fun doing the bondage and the scenarios we come up with, but only a few of the positions actually turn me on sexually. I am not someone who is turned on just by virtue of being tied up. It is usually a specific position and the spread eagle has always been my number one position for sexual arousal. Some positions make me uncomfortable, in fact, in real life, like chair-ties. I have no idea why! They don't bother me during shoots, though.

As for our other models, I can tell you that 99.9% do it for the money. Still, we try to work only with those that will actually put some acting effort into their job so they don't have that bored bondage model look going on. And the whiny ones that obviously HATE being tied up get canned as well. We have worked with a few models who are genuinely into bondage-but even they are still modeling for the money. Let's face it, we all have to work and almost everyone works for the money--even if it's something they actually enjoy! I mean, come on. Even if you really like your job, most people would choose to not work if they could afford to and just "play" at whatever it is they like doing so much.

Many people do write me, though, and tell me they can tell I actually enjoy bondage and I think that is good. But it also makes me realize that there must be a lot of models out there who appear to really NOT like what they're doing at all. That is unfortunate as I assume they are not as pleasurable to look at. :(

Natasha

I love Michele Clifford's writing about roughies and SM movies in the 70's, and I wish more people were writing stuff like that. I'm a budding academic myself. Maybe someday the time I've spent whacking off can help my career. . . . I'll stick to more conventional areas of study for now! I'm not at a point where I can take those kinds of risks.

Hana Liska in http://www.fantomkiler.com/films/gil/html/gil-1b.html

and

Maria Vaslova in http://www.fantomkiler.com/films/nina/html/ninasnightmares.html

Looks promising and more hardcore ...

Actually the brilliants are: you Jhlipton, also Canadian, Ralphus, Jeff James and Master Gord, and the Gimp.

To Hiccup (funny nickname you have dear)

You might not be familiar with my stuff or at least the things these guys know me for, in nicheclips.com,if you think i do that and show it to my girlfriends and laugh all the bank you are wrong, being "killed" under water, screaming, having pieces of cloth down my throat, my arms going numb and hands getting blue from the ropes and sometimes having big amounts of fake blood inside my mouth for 10 minutes aint that easy, so darling, believe me, is WORK and I don't show it to my girlfriends and have a blast with it ok

And for the record i never said I was an erotic model, of course I do that now and then but I'm proud of being a bondage, fetish actress

I live the lifestyle with my man in private, like I said before, yes you are not gonna see me in some club in Hollywood getting tied up and punish for free, not cause I'm a poser or a fake but cause I'm fucking smart.

And yes I enjoy bondage as much that I cannot even be in a relationship with somebody who does not, believe me, I would not do this if I was not attracted and obsessed with it.

So that my little opinion about what you said.

Now just move on, good night.

Dahlia Delis

But, am I wrong or are you digging out your daily pics from another gold mine? Your daily pics are outstanding - keep up the good work!

As for our other models, I can tell you that 99.9% do it for the money.

Well, that would seem to be a clear majority.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am personally OK with the fact that bondage models are in it for the money. The way I see it, they get what they want, and I get what I want. Everybody wins.

And what am I? Chopped liver? ;o)

As for the models' motives - I'm with A Canadian - I don't mind why they do it at all. I think, though, that the power they get from getting men excited just by watching them might be a motivator just as much as the money, even if they don't necessarily realise it.

Many people do write me, though, and tell me they can tell I actually enjoy bondage and I think that is good. But it also makes me realize that there must be a lot of models out there who appear to really NOT like what they're doing at all. That is unfortunate as I assume they are not as pleasurable to look at. :(

Actually, though it is really great fun to hear from women who enjoy doing bondage scenes for the web, what I admit liking more is seeing girls who don't enjoy their recorded bondage and discipline experience. Oh sure, if the bondage is half-assed and the discipline is faked because the model isn't into it, that's no good. But sometimes it seems clear to me that a girl who is strapped down and getting a hard caning is regretting her choice. She is suffering just for the money, or maybe has gotten in a little bit over her head and won't quite bail out for fear of losing cash.

Not that I would purchase a product where a girl has actually been forced, if I can imagine that a bondage and whipping scene has really tested a novice model -- has actually been painful and humiliating for the girl -- I like it better. In fact, if the girl is not likin' it, I'm lovin' it.

And even when the models accept, even enjoy, their work, I still get off thinking that I have the power to pay money to get pretty girls to consent to be stripped naked, tied, and punished with all of it recorded for my pleasure.

Nonetheless, thank you to Natasha, Dahlia, Lola, and the other brave bondage babes who post here (and all who may be lurking) for the work you do.

But, am I wrong or are you digging out your daily pics from another gold mine? Your daily pics are outstanding - keep up the good work!

Thanks, it's nice to get some feedback. They're not from another gold mine; they're just from my hard drive, specifically from my Insex folders. I was a member there a few years back and saved a lot of pictures, especially from Tyler Scot and Liz Tyler (aka Cowgirl).

Natasha: Always great to see you back posting here. I'm glad to see that even though you got into bondage for the money, you stayed because you liked the bondage. My kinda girl. Isaac is a lucky guy, indeed.

I have to admit, though, that when I first read your post, I misread one of the sentences. You wrote: And the whiny ones that obviously HATE being tied up get canned as well.

And I thought you wrote: "And the whiny ones that obviously HATE being tied up get CANED as well"!

And all these thoughts came flooding into my brain.

Oh, so you don't like being tied up? Take THIS! WHACK! WHACK! WHACK!

That's the way to get the girls to show some emotion!

Mothbrad: Haw, haw! You didn't make the brilliant list! We made the list and you didn't! Haw haw!

Jefferson

I sent out a questionaire to some of the top models we work with. Let's see what

Paige Richards

Anastasia Pierce

Darling

Jewell Marceau

and others have to say about their reasons.

Today's Picture: The proper way to tie a girl up? ...with her clothes on and her pussy unaccessible?!?!

Absolutely. This is foreplay. You want to first establish in her mind that she is tied very tightly and is totally helpless. Then you can take a knife, or scissors, or your bare hands (the possibilities are endless!) and strip away the clothing, preferably just the parts you want to torture, and she can't do anything about the fact that her outfit is ruined and worse, she is now just an object to be fondled, groped and pinched. You can still stick your fingers between her legs and feel her juicy nectar, but they'll be plenty of time to access the pussy later, after you have her tied a different way...spreadagled to the bed.

There's no hurry, my man. You've got hours to have fun with her. Her torment is just beginning!

Gord: That's great news about you getting the opinions of those bondage superstars. You've worked with some really huge names in the industry. Better yet, give them our URL and maybe they can post here themselves.

But what makes me keep buying, watching and enjoying Gord's stuff is the VERY high writing, directing and production values. Please Jeff, tell us how come you apparently can afford the time (equals money) to go the extra mile and produce real quality. NOTHING compares to the quality of the House of Gord's products. Many other products, like Powershotz, have storylines and action that's much more what I look for, but most of it (again: like Powershotz) is produced so bad that every minute I watch I at least think twice "ohh...this COULD have been SO good if only a little more time, thought and effort was spend here. Now it's only a waste of my time and money". The explanation (in a nutshell) is: we have to produce quantity to make at least some buck. The customer knows it's hit and miss, but we hope he takes a gamble and get lucky often enough to keep playing the odds.

Question for Jeff Gord: How do you manage to produce such high quality products??? Do you use any professional filmmakers (directors, producers, editors)??? What do you do right were most of your colleagues clearly go wrong.....

Pezzonovante

Well, I'm flattered that you rate my stuff so high, but I think there are others out there turning out stuff that is very good as well.

I think the HOM "Pony Girls at the Ranch" with JG Leathers and other big names was brilliant. A classic

. As for story, well that has always been one of my criteria. I do my best to slot heavy bondage into a real story.

Often, the pressure of finance and time have forced me to opt for a lessor target than I would have wanted, but apparently I was wrong in thinking it would flop, and Lydia was right in that it was already a good movie and I was trying to overkill.

Movie making is turning out to be a battle of trades-offs between me and Lydia these days. Basically we balance each others excess and arrive at roughly the right place.

It gets hairy and heated at times, but then when you get two mega tops butting heads on an issue, it's always going to be that way. Besides, I did not hire Lydia to be a Yes-man (Yes Chick ?? :-)

I guess storyline is very important for me. Take for instance the mainstream movie Last Kiss Goodbye. A relatively short section in relation to the whole film, but man, it has impact because it is spliced into a top notch story.

Same with the very short sequence in the original Hitcher with the chick tied to the truck. (Right up to the bit where the Hitcher ripped her in half of course.) I sort of sat there in shock and have been cursing those dumb cops ever since. I thought up about three ways to stop that happening. What were those clowns thinking?

Okay, to answer the rest: well I guess that's why I don't make millions of dollars. I plough a shit-load of money into movies that could be made a lot cheaper. But it pays dividends in the long run. When others are getting hammered in a bad market place, we stay level and just keep trundling onwards. The loyalists support us, and so we do our best never to let them down.

Our latest blockbuster "Asscar 2006 - Kinkonapolis" broke the fucking bank. We went balls to the wall and spent tens of thousands. Hopefully it is going to produce the zaniest, craziest, most unbelievable movie the kink world has ever seen. The whole thing is a spoof with special effects from start to finish and we just about take the piss out of everyone.

All we have to hope is that we get to recover costs before the assholes copy and post it everywhere for free

For some reason these pricks think we can do this stuff for free

Before anyone starts getting fired up to get it, I doubt very much that it will be ready to sell until early or mid 2008. There is a shitload of special effects and post production still to do.

Most of our filmmaking crew are semi professional, or professional, or maybe documentary movie makers,:- with the exception of one who helped us make The Trilogy movies. He has a mainstream job in Hollywood working with some of the big guys.

What do I do right you ask? That's for you out there to judge. I just do the best I can and basically stick to what turns my crank. I don't make anything that is not my scene. If I did, I feel it would loose the passion and become flat.

This is why I turn down commissions to make specifics, because most of the time the visions of others don't work for me.

Hope that answers your question.

Cheers

Gord

Foo. Waaaay too much rope.

She's a woman, not a sack of meat. If you tie her like that you can't get at anything. What's the point of having a female captive if she might as well be a side of beef for all the use you can put her to?

On top of that, she can probably barely move when she struggles, which eliminates one of the OTHER fine uses for a captive female, visual entertainment while you enjoy one of your other captives.

The only use that tying like that does is waste hemp.

;oD

Notice, there is no gag.

You tilt the chair backwards and rest it on a pile of books pre-arranged to the right height. Use the long hair, grab a handful, pull head back, get down on your knees, and then:- well, use your imagination :-)

Gord

And thanks to you and Canadian, finally somebody who gets the point

"I can't speak for anyone else, but I am personally OK with the fact that bondage models are in it for the money. The way I see it, they get what they want, and I get what I want. Everybody wins."

"As for the models' motives - I'm with A Canadian - I don't mind why they do it at all. I think, though, that the power they get from getting men excited just by watching them might be a motivator just as much as the money, even if they don't necessarily realise it."

Master Gord: I worked with Darling once, she is great, we did a video for my store on nicheclips and it was crazy fun, she was the mistress and I was the wife and we got in a fight and she choked me, then we did another that we both got killed, the customers seem to like it. She is a cute thing, fun to work with and a good piece of ass (gosh I sound like a guy) but hey she is hot.

Oh and I'm flying to Seattle in two weeks, let's shoot some stuff.

And welcome to Miss Andrea and Natasha!!

Goodnight to all

Oh I have invitations for the premiere/screening of Halloween (opening at the end of the month ), who wants to come with me?? (if you are in L.A)

Love

Dahlia Delis

By all means let's meet and talk, but two weeks puts me right in the middle of the move from Gord Mansion to Schloss Gord

We ran out of space here and I had to upgrade. New joint is 5500 sq ft, plus coach house, plus 8 acres.

Hmm! I've just found out that this forum doesn't like ASCII characters, hence the double S on schloss. Try using Alt-0167 and Google pops up. Weird, but that could be Firefox having a shit-fit again.

So Dahlia, contact me by direct email and we'll work out a meet with Lydia and myself. It is highly unlikely that I will have all the gear unpacked and set up in two weeks.

On another issue, the answers are coming back from the models on the WHY question. One pointed out that it was an ambiguous question, in that it should have asked either, Why do they do it NOW, or; why did they do it in the first place / why did they get started.

My answer was based on the latter, whereas most answered why NOW.

The answers I'm getting back from the models pretty much say both views work :-) "Now" is basically for the money, it's a living, "Then" is basically because they enjoyed it and it was their kink.

I'll post the responses as soon as they are all in. Some of the ladies are away working, so it may be a while.

Cheers

Gord

I search the name of this movie from Attackers or Cinemagic.

Can anyone help me thx.

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/8052/wsimvc01is7.jpg

Ralphus, these Tyler photos are bringing back many fond memories. Incredible that someone with such sweet innocent looks could infiltrate the Insex world ...

And Dahlia, I'd love to see Halloween with you but I am nowhere close to LA and my wife might not appreciate that move. Who can understand women? Besides, I'm sure you'd rather go with one of the "brilliant" posters here ;-)

For being left off your list, here's what could be in store for you in Seattle ...

ROOM 237 by The House of Gord

After seeing Hostel 2, I noticed some similarities with Jeff Gord's Room 237.. Three female travelers check into a hotel, get kidnapped one by one and are then tied up and tortured. The differences are that Gord doesn't use blood, the women all live and there is more tension with Room 237 ... in the pants of the viewer that is.

Before the action begins, we get a mission statement. Gord, a sex slaver, is to acquire a big-titted brunette, a voluptuous blonde, and a flexible redhead.

Jewell Marceau, looking good in a business outfit, enters the hotel. A light flashes under the key for room 237 to inform the front desk clerk that she fits the bill.

Once in the room, Jewell undresses to her black bra and garter belt. She goes to the closet, opens the door and gets chloroformed and dragged in.

Next up is cute redhead Claire Adams. In Room 237, she strips to her black undies and decides to brush her teeth in a black thong. And why not? But the lights in the bathroom don't work, the door mysteriously shuts, and then we hear Claire scream.

A stuck up married chick signs in at the front desk, but she is sent to a different room, since chicks with husbands in tow are of no use to Gord.

Thankfully, in her place, hot blonde Petal Benson signs in, strips down and takes a bath. She's a true beauty but I really could have done without the nipple studs and that huge tattoo on her thigh. The entire bathtub slides through the wall in a really cool scene.

Petal is next seen naked and unconscious on the floor, with Jewell and Claire hogtied, bit-gagged and tied to a wall side by side. Gord swiftly ties up and gags a groggy Petal as the others are mmmphing with good close-ups of their gagged faces.

The women are packed in large closet-like boxes and loaded onto a pickup.

At the House of Gord, the Master and Lady Serena unpack Petal and admire the merchandise. Gord puts a metal collar around her neck that's chained to the ceiling and forces her to stand on a metal sheet. He unties her but she ain't going anywhere with that inescapable collar. Gord orders her to put on a shiny suit, but Petal throws it down. Bad move. Gord flips on a switch and the defiant Petal gets electrified. She screams and claws at the collar while hopping around. Wisely, she puts on the outfit. At least it covers up that huge tattoo. The collar is removed, and she is put in a leather armbinder, hood, inflatable gag, leather collar and head harness. We can still see her beautiful eyes that give a convincing look of fear.

Petal is taken into another room and strapped down in a hogtied position on a gurney. A metal gadget is connected to her shackled ankles and the top of the head harness. The device, when switched on, pulls Petal's head back, holds it in that uncomfortable position, and then releases it. The process is repeated over and over with lots of great moaning on Petal's part.

Claire is next shown in a full body stocking, ballet-bondage shoes and Japanese-style ropework. She is tied sitting on a wooden board, her legs wide apart, arms secured behind her back and attached to a pulley so she's in a strappado position. She is also wearing a deliciously large black ballgag. Gord puts another rope around her Claire's neck and ties it though some screws on the board so she is bent with her nose just inches above the surface. After leaving her there for a couple of minutes, Gord returns and unties the rope around her neck. Is Gord getting soft on us? No. He puts a nose hook on Claire that is secured to the pulley chain. She is left looking like a pig.

Jewell, sporting her black bra, garter belt and that evil metal collar, is on the metal sheet. Gord tells her to take off her clothes, to which she replies, "Go fuck yourself, you pineapple." Pineapple? Pineapple!? Gord obviously does not appreciate being called a fruit, so he turns on the switch. After much jumping and screaming on Jewell's part, she finally gets her undies off. Gord gives her some more juice and her naked jugs bounce around nicely. She is forced to put on a transparent latex outfit, ballet boots and corset.

Ballgagged, Jewell is secured to a human-size guinea-pig wheel. Her legs are cuffed and she has a chain crotch rope (crotch chain?) Then she is forced to start walking while squealing nicely through the gag.

Back to Claire, who is now tied AOH. Gord lifts one of her legs up back so that the ballet shoe is at the height of her head and tied securely to the pulley. She sort of looks like a figure skater in that position, although I have yet to see any Olympians wearing a see-through, crotchless body stocking on the ice. The bit gag is reinserted and tied to the heel of the shoe. Good thing she's flexible.

Poor Petal is still getting the "strictest hogtie" treatment. While still strapped to the gurney, she's packed into a box and ready for shipment.

We see Claire still in the figure-skating position, and we get a glimpse of her shaved pussy. She has two pussy rings, which Lady Serena locks together to prevent the staff from having fun.

Claire is brought ballgagged to the spacious garage. Gord shows her Nakita, who is trapped in an incredibly small wooden round box. That's the future for Petal, but first she must be trained. She is strapped so her back wraps around a big wooden spool. Spokes are put in place above her body on the edge of the wheel and then the wheel is turned and wrapped with plastic. She is rolled out to the pickup.

Gord leads Jewell, now with a hood/mask, to the garage where there's an open box waiting. A metal strip is placed over her neck and screwed into the box. Her legs, bent under her, are strapped into place in a nice frogtie. Her body is then strapped down, and Gord fondles her latex-encased breasts for good measure. He unzips the crotch in the latex suit to expose her shaved pussy. The box is hoisted up so that Jewell's upside down, pussy-side up. The doors to the box are drilled shut, but the drilling doesn't stop there.

Two rather long dildos are inserted one by one into holes at the top of the box. The one for Jewell's pussy slowly slips out through the top of the box and Gord slams it back in with his hand. As he gropes around for the drill and screw, the dildo again oozes out. He finally drills the dildo into place, and does the same for the anal one. Although we can't see Jewell, I loved this scene. We also hear her scream through the gag at the right moment (when the dildos supposedly make contact.)

The box is then put on the pickup. Another satisfied customer.

Overall, as usual, Gord's production values are top-notch. The camera work and editing are excellent, although the music was a bit annoying. The women were hot, and their acting very passable. (It helps that they were tightly gagged for 90 percent of the movie.)

Gord's twisted and creative mind is also at work, and not only with his bondage work. Room 237 was also the room number in The Shining and the first Hostel movie.

If I have one big complaint about Room 237, it's the tattoos on Petal and the body piercings. I know the tattoos would be impossible to remove, but the body jewelry could have been eliminated to give the women more of an innocent look.

Rape aficionados and GIMPers into heavy whipping and brutal physical punishment will likely be disappointed, but that's not the audience Gord is aiming for.

If you enjoy Gord's work, this is must-see. For me, like Gord's sex-slave operation, Room 237 delivers.

My Grade: A-minus.

Video Mayhem

You have some great posters here, I especially like the models that add their comments - keep'em coming please!

Take care all, -Taurus

PS - My work is okay & improving but I'm no Gary Roberts, that's for sure! His work is awesome...

As an aside, I'm not sure where the expression Go fuck yourself, you pineapple comes from, but I'm quite confident it's not a Canadian thing.

You missed a couple of very important points though.

The closet like boxes are in fact antique steamer trunks, steel outer shell, inescapable and reasonable sound proof..

Petal's diabolical device is a bit more than just the rod from head to ankles. She is in fact, butt-stuffed with an inflatable and electrifiable butt plug, Pussy stuffed with similar plug;- has a clit vibrator clamped on her;- electric pads on her ass cheeks;- and of course, as you notice the inflatable butterfly gag. In addition, the straps around her hogtied body are connected to air cylinders that cinch her at high pressure as the machine cycles.

She did all this for real, although we could not actually show it all being installed on film because at the time the adult movie industry still had no real idea what was legal and what was not regarding bondage and insertion.

So, when that machine operates, she gets cinched down super tight and squeezed like a toothpaste tube;- arched and strained back;- internally inflated, and then zapped and vibrated whilst she can't move a muscle. We eventually dismantled this device as it is too severe for most chicks. It is a super extreme chunk of gear. Only Petal ever managed a long stint on it. The great super toughy Claire Adams even had trouble with it which tells a whole story.

But I made sure we did many retakes that we did not actually need. Man it was fun witching her get tormented over and over again.. And you can rest assured, that is one REAL scene. Petal is going through it big time. I apologised for myself and the crew later, but when she saw the footage she said she could hardly blame me for wanting to keep it going longer.

Jewell's insult was in fact "Go fuck yourself with a pineapple" It took a while for us to get that shot. The crew was collapsed with laughing at the ad-lib. In fact that is a Brit term that Jewell heard me use at some time, and she obviously liked it. But in the end we got that terrific boob bouncer scene and the fabulous Mouse Wheel in transparent latex scenes.

What can I say about Claire. As usual getting herself into extremely stressed bondage and loving it. Nothing new there then. FYI, Claire was inside the wheel when it was rolled and loaded in blazing hot sunshine.. No movie magic there.

Ha, I never noticed that the room number 237 was in The Shining. Must have been there in my subconcious.

As for Petal's tattoos, dudes, when you get near her and that lady is sending off highly charged pheromones, she could have a leg missing and you wouldn't even notice. She is one hot sexy babe to be around.

Anyway, I sent Ralphus some pics he requested to share with you from the movie itself.

Cheers

Gord

While your correction is interesting, I still think it would have been amusing if Jewell had actually said, "Go fuck yourself, you pineapple." It kind of has a Don Rickles-like quality to it.

Have to admit I could well have used the other version had I thought of it. It does have a ring to it :-) I'll keep it for future use :-)

Gord

There is a new actress at ewprod.com her name is Sarah Anne, does anyboby know her from other movies, sides???

Cheers..

So you've worked with some of the Powershotz and Dan Hawke models? Do you actually have them model in bondage poses and you use that as a basis for your artwork? Feel free to stop by here whenever you like.

Brutus: Outstanding review, thanks. I know that had to have taken a while to write so your effort is highly appreciated. Added to the Reviews section here. I've heard some stuff about Room 237 and your review has given me the impetus to check out some of Gord's work. I asked for, and Jeff Gord graciously agreed to donate some stills from the movie and we'll let the rest of the forum check them out, starting tonight.

BTW, sorry about no new picture last night. For once it wasn't Dreambook fucking up, it was AOL that wouldn't allow me to upload anything to my free space. I was so pissed, I called them a pineapple and told them to go fuck themselves. Or words to that effect.

Yes, thx this movie is from Cinemagic, but what name?

Can anyone help me thx.

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I also appreciate the details about what Petal was actually going through. I have no engineering background, so it is sometimes nearly impossible for me to explain your devices.

A Canadian: It's a shame Gord's stuff isn't available in your area. I know you prefer rape movies, but Gord's work offers a nice change of pace.

A Canadian: It's a shame Gord's stuff isn't available in your area. I know you prefer rape movies, but Gord's work offers a nice change of pace.

Agreed. I'm all in favor of variety and checking out quality materials. Unfortunately, when you live in a backwards country, you have to make do.

True, but hopefully in about a year and a half, we'll start to get better! [grin]

Gonzales was so bad that he actually made us wistful for the days of Bible-thumping John Ashcroft, another clown in a suit who did the bidding of Bush and his cronies to satisfy the religious right that got them elected.

Of course, we can't celebrate too much right now. This battle may be won, but the war on our freedoms will continue as long as Bush remains in charge. I'm sure there are lots of right-wing clones he has in mind to replace Gonzales with for AG. Like jhlipton noted, let's try to tough it out for another year and half and do the right thing come November 2008.

Yes, I know this is nothing new in politics, but I've never seen it so blatant as in this administration. Will the Democrats be any better? Well, I'm not holding my breath. The entire system sucks big time. Fuck, I need another drink.