Getting back to my point. Per brought up the point that we can buy the Inquisition Live videos from the website. The price is 69 euros which translate to 91 dollars for an hours worth of a movie. Probably after shipping the customer pay 100 bucks. My opinion here is that is flat out stealing from the consumer. As a matter of fact I bought volume 1 from a legit source for 15 bucks. So what did my distributor pay for it and what did the guy who purchased the American rights pay for it?

So my point is some website owners as well as manufacturers are just as big of thieves as the pirates of the world. My motto in business is offer a good product charge a fair price and it should be a win -win for both the business owner and the consumer. Like I said I think we have all felt at one time or another we purchased a video and felt we completely wasted our money. I also feel that websites and manufacturers should do their best to make decisions to limit piracy so they can make the most out of their product.

I mentioned Nu-West yesterday. I have spoken before with them and they complained about their piracy problem. I would venture to guess the pirates make more money off their stuff then Nu-West does. If you want to see one of their movies you have to pay $70, and some of those movies dont make it to 30 minutes. They arent widely available for rental anywhere so I think these factors really set them up for piracy. Not that I condone piracy for their products but their pricing and availability really makes them a target.

As far as Insex is concerned they give you a great product and what I call a really fair subscription price but they still get pirated a great deal. There isn't justice there but I still think Insex could make some decisions where they can make more money off their movies and maybe pirates make less. Insex has chosen not to release their material through the distribution channel and I am not sure I agree with that as a business decision. In comparison I have seen great Dan Hawke movies available in some stores in my area. I am sure Dan's movies get pirated as well as Insex movies but I think Dan covers a good majority of the market with legit product where Insex leaves that entire market wide open. I have never seen any of Insex movies on video stores shelves but I am sure they could be out there somewhere.

So my point there with Insex and even Nu-West is they should try and sell as much as possible and the more market share they get the less market share for the pirates. So hopefully Scion you see my point now that I dont condone piracy but I dont condone ripping the unsuspecting consumers off either. I think we all have our ideal price of what we are willing to pay for a good piece of bdsm material. That would be a very interesting question in itself??

However, I can never agree to some sort of "relative morality" that is based on a logic that says "it's OK to bootleg this guys stuff because I don't like his business model". If you think stealing is wrong, then you must have the integrity to apply that stance even if the product is wrongly priced. I agree that Inquisitionlive has high prices and I suspect their business would be more profitable with lower prices and therefore higher volumes. But that does not justify stealing their material, selling it for 12 bucks and then pocket the entire profit myself. Doing that because their prices doesn't appeal to be is a pretty lame excuse for stealing. I don't know if Inquisitionlive makes serious money from their business, but I do think that their productions are slightly more costly than some other videos out there where a producer ties up his girlfriend in their bedroom and shoots an hour of video of it... I can't really tell if Inquisitionlive price their stuff correctly considering their expenses, but I respect their pricing and it's my decision if I buy their products or not.

You mention PainGate as well. I think they have some excellent stuff, but a lot of it is rubbish. I sign up once every six months or so, download what is worth downloading and then stay away for another six months. I think that is what their material is worth and it's my right as a customer to do like that. What I don't do is steal their content because that makes me a thief.

As for Insex: They had a little slump lately, they had problems with their payment processor and their bandwidth supplier, which cost them a lot of money. I hope they will get back on track, the new guy (cyd) who is working there shows a lot of promise. PD appears to be away on a long vacation, which is probably good for him. As far as I know, he has had about two weeks of vacation since the site started 1997, so I think he is worth it... He has been working his ass off for so many years now, so I hope he comes back full of energy and with a lot of new ideas!

Anyone shopping for DVDs these days will notice that many titles -- including titles for popular movies -- are now being offered at discount prices. This is true in Canada and even more true in the U.S. If you don't believe me, check the price for the most recent re-release of Straw Dogs: it's $13.46 (U.S.) on amazon.com. There have even been discount prices for TV box sets, in some cases, such as the first season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

The companies might say they are responding to the consumers. However, it could also be said that the companies are rewarding bad behavior by changing their prices in response (whether they admit it or not) to the bootleggers.

When I take off my retailer's hat and I am now a consumer now I am faced with a choice of maybe buying the product legit for 90 bucks or not buying it at all or buying a bootleg for 12 to be honest I would buy the bootleg for 12. This is probably wrong but as a consumer who has been ripped off I have to choose what I think the product is worth. Now if the options were available for bootleg for 12 and original for 25 I would then support the manufacturer. Now as a retailer I never buy bootlegs and resell them or rent them.

Bottom line is I guess having been screwed before by manufacturers and video stores the bootleg issue isnt a cut and dry issue for me. All in all we are on the same side of the fence. Does Insex stiff offer those hd movies for their new stuff at 750 or did the bandwidth issue change that? 

the_rev_zetmen
The movie I reviewed is Red Feline on the Cross. Today's screencap is from the same.

Ralphus
The copy I have is one of the grainiest flicks I own. My HOM copies are clearer. If I knew for sure that I could get a copy as good as the screencap, I'd probably fork over the $70.

She is either wearing dark glasses at the beginning/end, or she is in the mask. We never really see her face.

Does anybody know much about bondage bukkake, or recommend any dvd, video titles I'd be interested to know. I noticed the subject hardly gets mentioned in this post.

Another good deal for what you get is any of the CyberNet sites, such as hogtied, whippedass, wiredpussy, waterbondage, etc. The only drawback is that you can only download the pics (though they have both low-res (Insex quality) and high-res (better than Insex-quality) pics and video clips of each segment - you can't download the full length videos... unless you know a trick :-)

Hope this helps.

Regarding bootlegging, I agree that many videos, even ZFX, are cost prohibitive. I would never buy bootlegs, but I do miss being able to rent ZFX now that the local porn shops have gone soft. Usually, I find myself joining websites for a month at a time and downloading the videos they offer. It's usually enough to satisfy my interest, and as has been established, even the sites with the most interesting videos don't update often enough, so there's no point maintaining a membership.

OK, I am having a really difficult time reviewing this film. I liked it, I really did-- but it wasn't in my opinion a GIMP film. The "Merciless Peril" was missing, at least the merciless-IMO.   So she was tied up, ok great, but what girl in her right mind wouldn't want all the things he did to her-- done to them?

Hell, I just watched one of my fantasies come to life in front of me. He was totally doing all the things to her that I like to have done to me and being restrained would just add that much more pleasure to it. Alright, he did pinch, pull and twist her nipples, that would be uncomfortable, but torture?  I think not. Furthermore,  he goes on to gently caress them as if to say I'm sorry.  Then towards the end he held back his own release until she came. The fact that he came so quickly afterwards confirmed that in my thoughts. He could have at least brought her to the edge and left her feeling miserable. I mean, where was the humiliation, the torture?  To me a true GIMP film needs both.   Hell, I don’t even consider what he did rape.   And then in the end, of course, she signed the papers that she was satisfied and then went on to look like she was crying because he was gone-- What girl would want a guy like that to slip away?

Anyway, IMO– this was not a “hardcore” bondage film, it was a girl's dream come true.  What convinces me the most that it isn't really a GIMP film is that although I liked it, so would my husband, and he is far from being a Gimper. I would give the film an A for entertainment and its arousal abilities-- but I would have to agree with Ralphus that it is a B-, tops, for a GIMP experience.

Ralphus: Which film is  the glazed doughnut chick from?...is it what I think it is or is it really a Krispy-Kreme accident?.....why does the sight of a gooey chick make me all gooey!?!?!?!....slaves to our biology., that's what we are:.S-L-A-V-E-S.

BlueDog: Thanks for the additional info on Red Feline. I guess that explains why every still I have from that movie either has her with her back to the camera or wearing a mask. I cannot for the life of me understand why they would go through all those lengths to make a bondage/torture film and then deprive us of even seeing the damsel's face...that's gotta be one of the stupidest creative decisions I've ever heard of. Who can identify with her plight or enjoy her sufferings if we can't even see her face?

Reminds me of that one scene in Ballista 3 where Lisa was being tortured but she had this gas mask on her head which totally took away from the drama of the scene. I noted in my review that it was hard to get excited when the victim looks like she has a huge Cootie head :)

FrenchCharly: I'll second BBFan's opinion of Insex. They have some incredible stuff there. PD has a great imagination and he's come up with some very bizarre things to do with his (willing) victims. The consensual nature of many of the setpieces is my biggest debit with Insex's work...it more often resembles a bondage "Fear Factor" where the women bravely take on these bondage challenges, rather than the element of "bad guy attacks innocent girl" storyline that I prefer. Still, at their best...and there is a lot there...your eyes will be bugging out when you see what's there. Definitely worth the investment.

I was there 3 months, and there is so much there, I could only touch on a percentage of what I wanted to grab. One other thing I would like to see improved at Insex would be easier availability of the stills. Give us the zip file option like some paysites offer, so we can grab an entire series without having to constantly download picture after picture. I got so sick of doing that for hours that it became more of a chore and less fun...it was work, and I was paying to do it. I'd much rather buy a CD or DVD and just enjoy the product. To this day, I've probably seen less than half of what I downloaded from them, because it put a bad taste in my mouth.

Annie: Great review of Moved To Tears, thanks. Interesting that your views of the movie are much like my own. The movie needed more of an edge, and to be meaner. Although I disagree on semantics with your statement that it isn't a hardcore bondage film. It is definitely hardcore, it's just not what I consider a hardcore RAPE film. I agree, it really wasn't rape, so I deliberately didn't refer to it as rape in my own review. And like you, I did enjoy the movie as an entertainment, and I'm looking forward to seeing her cast in another Forbidden release. That company is almost there...and they are getting closer to what I like to see.

The good thing is that the most valuable items, IMHO, are the full-length videos, which download in one file (though it's usually a huge file that takes a long time to download).

But anyway, I don't think that's the case here. I browsed her site and Camille Duka seems to be starring in almost every tape there. So it was just a poor aesthetic decision on the filmmaker's part.

I wouldn't mind seeing something with the title "Bitch with tits in a vice Bukkake" "Brutal Elektro-shock Bukkake", or "Plastic wrapped slut bukkake" oh man...that would really push some buttons......one can only dream! (with background music by Acid Bath and Impaled Nazarene!!)

Regards from the Clog wearing Dutch Sick Fuck from Downunder!

Not good my friends. I think the anticipation was greater that the finished product for me. First, the recap of the other 6 was WAY too long. I guess it needed to be there but I fast forwarded it for a LONG time. I felt cheated that I wasn't getting a full length original video.

And this tape was heavy into "torture" not rape so I was bored. There was a good whipping scene.

The big breasted blonde was back but we never saw her face! Her scene was horrible. I had no interest.

Lisa Kinkaid looks horrible. I know she's *supposed* to look horrible at this part of the story but If I wanted realism I wouldn't be watching a ZFX video! She is made to eat dog food or beef stew? I couldn't tell. I assumed it was dog food for the gross effect but it was just dumb. And she doesn't get fucked or anything. What a waste.

Elaine Payton pulls this one out of the crapper! That smoking hot body just fires me up and she was man-handled quite a bit and that's always a good thing. She was also suspended and whipped in a pretty realistic looking way, with lots of redness and some good sound. She makes the whole film for me.

The highlight is what they make her wear. It's some fucked up kind of leather enema shorts. That's right, a pair of leather enema shorts. With a large clear plastic tube that is inserted into her ass with a additional tube going into her mouth. I think they were supposed to be joined in some way but I couldn't figure it out. Very WILD. The hoses were hooked up to a sink faucet. And then....and then.....it didn't really go anywhere. She got water up her ass and got wet....yawn. I thought they were going to reverse the flow and we'd see her shit getting pulled out of her ass through the clear tube. Or have her shit (brown colored water, people) get pushed into her mouth or something. But no. She just got wet.

For the finale Elaine gets double raped on a mattress. The mouth rape is very good and her anal rape from behind was ok. I think the close up scenes of the "dick" fucking her ass was a dildo (that is the ZFX standard legal get around) going into a fake ass, like one of those Real dolls or something. The whole close up was just one plastic fest. It kind of ruined the moment for me. And then the guy fucking her ass just stops. Which was also kind of weird. The ending is just plain dumb. Maybe it was supposed to be funny? That was the worst blowjob scene I've seen in a ZFX vid. Although it was funny that she kept going even after... (I don't want to ruin everything).

C-

Hail

Sorry, I assumed you already had an idea of the style they use. First of all, nothing is simulated there - it's all 100% real. Most of their updates are consensual, but they recently started mixing in some storyline non-consensual videos - so they really try to mix it up to hit each individual perv, I think.

And this tape was heavy into "torture" not rape so I was bored.

Right, the entire SOB series is torture-heavy, which is the part of the reason why it's one of my favorite series. I think you're more of a rape man, guessing from your past comments (and the themes of most of your artworks). I think torture fans like me would probably like this better.

The big breasted blonde was back but we never saw her face! Her scene was horrible. I had no interest.

The exact same critique I had of that scene. In fact, read my original review (linked above) and you'll see I made a lot of the same comments. It's too bad, because she's a doll baby. It's part of the same thing I just bitched about with the Red Feline vid...let's see her face!

Lisa Kinkaid looks horrible. I know she's *supposed* to look horrible at this part of the story but If I wanted realism I wouldn't be watching a ZFX video! She is made to eat dog food or beef stew? I couldn't tell. I assumed it was dog food for the gross effect but it was just dumb. And she doesn't get fucked or anything. What a waste.

I wrote that it was a combination of dog food and beef stew, plus hot sauce. Yeah, that scene didn't do much for me, either. I like degrading scenes, but this wasn't degrading enough for me, it was just...messy.

Regarding Elaine's scenes, yes, clearly she stole the movie. Her upside-down suspension scene was awesome, worth the price of the movie by itself.

One disagreement with you about the enema scene, though. She didn't simply get "wet". What about the multiple jolts she got with the cattle prod, which forced her to piss uncontrollably every time she got stung? That was another ingenious scene, IMO.

Although I love your idea about reversing the flow and forcing the shit water into her mouth. That would have been nasty...totally twisted. Like I say, I like degrading scenes, but maybe even Rick wasn't interested in going that far.

As far as the simulated "plastic-looking" rape, I thought that was a pretty convincing illusion. Even though Elaine is a helluva actress, I'm pretty sure she doesn't do any kind of penetration. Her rape scene is SOB-6 was simulated, too. Hey, you work with what you have; if she doesn't do penetration, you have to fake it. I thought he pulled it off well.

As far as the ending, everyone here pretty much thought it was weak; g-in-o made the perceptive comment that it will probably be the least replayed forced Lisa K blowjob scene in history :)

But heck, overall, I thought the movie was a lot better than a C-. When I tallied up the scenes, I determined that Elaine was in more than half the movie, and all of her scenes rocked, IMO. So while the rest of the movie was subpar compared to her footage, her stuff was so great that it boosted the grade up to B-. And anything in the B range from me means there's enough there to recommend it.

Thanks again for taking the time to write up a review; added to the database.

Pet Peeve Poll: Another thing I hate is when a girl is wearing mismatched underwear. Bra is some silky powder blue thing. Panties are a flower print, for example. Don't know why, but that turns me right off. Anyone else hate this one?

zee-ef-ex

Thanks for grossing us all out, man. Was it really necessary to show us that? I think I'm going to hurl.

Daveyface - That Anais stuff doesn't look very sexy. Looks like it's all clothes on, and there's plenty of face hiding too. And do you have storylines, or just sex setups? I mean, we all apreciate sex in bondage, but most of us like stories too.

I don't mean to speak for everyone, especially since hardly anyone ever responds to me on this board anyway, but speaking for myself, I'm not enticed to join privatebondage. Here's hoping you can shed some more light on what you offer.

The difference between outstanding performances given by Elaine Peyton vs wooden performances given by Ashley Blake or Bridget Bayonne makes all the difference in the world.

My thanks to women in peril who know how to sell a scene that equals or even surpasses my fantasies.

On the other hand, I disagree with Bob Smith's point about a story line. I tend to look for individual scenes that are hot -- I usually don't care what story, if any, got us to those scenes. For example, the ZFX movie, The Dentist, had some good scenes in it but I thought the overall story was kind of silly.

IMO, story is an extra, first-must be a performer that I want to see (good looks & reactions), second-must be doing nasty things to & with her, third-anything else, acting is nice, story is nice, SFX is nice, fancy editing & extras is nice. But without the first two, it's not gonna pry open my wallet.

As to the two mentioned websites (powershots? and Anais?), I have seen promos of/for them, but they failed the first two tests, so I never have joined them.

I wanted to ask you all again (sorry if I sound like a broken record) of what other good AOH scenes are out there that I havent seen.  Are the Night Prowler 3-4 scenes good?  What about "oldies" like Video Pirates, Tied Tales or Witchhunt? 

I also want to see other (non-whipping) belly hitting scenes like Lisa Kinkaid had in SOB4, Kelly McKay in SOB3 and Bridgette Bayonne in Ballista 2.  Thanks

BTW, Yahoo groups just kicked out the damsels_in_peril group.  Another one bites the dust.

I think Ralphus and Hail need to lay off the FF button and or get get a good set of glasses! After reading your comments I broke out my DVD because I remembered the scenes differently. I count 2 Ashley Blake scenes in SOB7 not one.

Also you can see her face in both scenes, granted briefly in the first scene but shes hung upside down facing a wall, most of the actions on her backside and pussy with some whipping. The second scene her face is shown repeatedly with nice close ups of the torturers putting an electric prod in her mouth and taping it shut. She is forced to squat on a cattle prod and shocked and you can see her face through almost the whole scene.

MAV: All be damned, there is 103 streaming movies on the ZFX site now , was like 20 last time I looked. Good to see that the site coming back. I wonder if Rick will ever put the 3D art back up.

Got me a copy of the Apartment coming too, cant wait till it gets here! Its availble now but there isnt anything on the ZFX site about it.

Scion,The

I was only commenting on the same scene that Hail mentioned, where she is hung upside down and whipped. If you read my review, I wrote that you barely even get a chance to see her face until the very end, and then it was briefly. And then I explained how even though she looked great in her second segment, she was very quiet while being shocked and that lessened the impact of the scene.

MAV: You should definitely check out Kelly McKay in Video Pirates 4 and Candi Licks in Video Pirates 5 (see the picture above) for AOH bondage. In each case, they hang her up by her wrists so that she's suspended off the ground, then they whip her. Candi Licks has another similar scene in Night Prowler 5...not to be missed. Also check out Chandra Sweet's suspended whipping in The Dentist. A Canadian said in his review that there is extra footage of that scene in the DVD, too.

So there's a few you can start with.

RalphusWaaahooo! Farell!!! That is my all time favorite artist - anyone know how to obtain his(her) complete works?

I just downloaded a few Powershotz videos with beetokens and I notices they have great sexual content. In almost every one I got, the guy is taunting all the sexual things he'll do to the girl. Of course, they don't show anything, but just hearing the threats and the girls' begging, pleading protests seems better to me than actual penetration with no real reaction.

Pretty missy has it all. Stunning good looks, youth and her very own efficency apartment. Finally she has the privacy to do what she wants. Missy seems to be a wholesome girl next door, but she secretly harbors a very kinky fantasy life which you will see in intimate detail in The Apartment.

After her garbage disposal goes on the fritz, Missy calls Ned, the apartments hulking maintenance man. It quickly becomes apparent by his not so subtle advances and leering looks that Ned would like to fix hot little Missy's other plumbing as well. Later during her nightly workout, Missy recieves a call from her "secret admirer" which she is fairly certain is the pervert maintenance man. Between lurid groans of self pleasuring he vividly describes what he would like to do to her, throwing in just the right amount of detail to make her wonder if he had been spying on her somehow. He even knew about the large vibrator she kept in her panty drawer.

Missy finally hangs up the phone and resumes her workout, but she keeps thinking about what the pervert caller said, sparking a fantasy of dark pleasure and humilating pain. She imagines the maintenance man breaking in and forcing himself on her, pinning her to the floor as he strips her and has his way with her. Totally helpless to stop him, Ned mauls her tits as he forces his way between her soft thighs. He even takes her panties and shoves them roughly in her mouth to silence her grunts of protest as he flips her on her belly for more fun. Her disturbing fantasy leaves Missy wet between the legs and horny as hell.

Retreating to the shower after her workout, Missy soon finds herself again consumed in dark fantasies. Her fingers slowly find thier way to her swollen pleasure button as her mind reels through scenarios of pain and humiliation. Soon her body is rocked by one orgasm after another as the hot water pounds upon her soft flesh... Feling relaxed after her shower, Missy is heading to bed when a blur of a large figure bursts from her closet and roughly grabs her from behind. It doesn't take her long for her to figure out who it is even though the attacker is wearing a nylon over his head. It's Ned the horny maintenance man! As Missy feels the nylon around her neck tighten, panic ensues and she puts up a mighty struggle but it's no use. Finally she is engulfed in blackness.

Missy awakens to find herself bound face down on the bed with her own nylons and panty gag in her mouth as her enourmous dildo is hauled out by her gloating attacker. Ned takes fiendish pleasure in her cries of agony and humiliation as he slowly impales her puckering starfish with her unyeilding device, then cruelly strapping it in with a belt. Next Missy is dragged to a closet where she is tied in a very uncomfortable 5 point position. Ned then tapes her mouth shut and applies clothes pins to both her jutting nipples and tender mound before leaving her for a bit to enjoy the suffering in the 100 degree heat as he cranks the thermostat all the way up. Poor Missy is then tired spread eagle for a ruthless belt beating, her sweat-covered body soon glistening with welts and bruises as she struggles in futility against her bonds, finally collapsing from exhaustion and pain.

Missy is then tied tightly to a chair, a dirty washcloth stuffed in her mouth to ensure she suffers in silence. She is totally immobilized by phone cord and rope but the worst is yet to come. Clothespins are attached to strategic points on her lovely body, strung with bits of string to the nearby door jam. Thus tied, every movement is excruciating. not yet done with his pretty prize, our sadistic maintenance man has more dirty tricks for Missy to perform...

This is an incredible erotic fantasy filled with submission, humiliation and tight bondage featuring bondage superstar Lisa Kinkaid in her hottest performance ever!

I sent an email letting them know I never received it. No response. Then I sent a copy of the order by snailmail and still no response.

I know that the site is a favorite of GIMP members, so am a bit surprised at their lack of response.

For example  I was watching a Japanese movie last night. They spent the first half hour of the movie setting up the plot. Our damsel was a model and at one point goes to dinner with her boss or someone like that. During dinner she actually pours a full glass of wine over this guys head. Then proceeds to diss the chef and his food. 

In the next scene she is going back to the restaurant with the guy. Maybe he wanted to apologize or something I gather but this time after they are seated the chef locks the door behind him and you may have guessed she pays the price for the rest of the movie. 

Stupid plots should be avoided though. I have seen a number of Brutal Violence movies where maybe the girl drops a glass and the guy get so pissed at that he terrorizes the girl. Some of those plots are just to stupid to believe.

Clothing is also very important to me.  I dont like the thigh high stocking look because it is unrealistic to me. When you take off the girls dress and she has those on you almost feel like she knew she would be naked in front of someone.  Tattoos and piercings and fake breasts and shaved pussies could all go as far as I am concerned also. Those all take away from the movies. I for one dont care to see miss porno actress as our damsel, I want to see the everyday girl.  Once again this is where Japan kicks our asses again.

The box says it all, plot wise. The question is, how is it. Its not every day one gets to view a ZFX film for the first time. Today though, was one.

The Apartment is a small intimate film, unlike large epic multipart sagas (the SOBs and Ballista's) or the effects laden sci-fi themed shows. The Apartment stays with the basics. I liked it very much.

Its a strangly psychological film dealing with the fantasies of both hunter and hunted. One never knows what is real and when.

Lisa looks great, the pony tales are not a problem (so it must have been the socks that set me off in "Drifters"). In this film she sports an all-over tan and close shaved (but not bald) pussy. Its a fetching look. Outstanding scenes include her tied to the bed, ass up, while the home invader tries out her own toys on her. The shower scene (a HOMage to "Special Request"?) is awsome soapy fun, and if you ever wondered how Lisa might look playing with herself in the shower (like I have), this is your scene. Its when Lisa is bound in the closet when things really heat up, a nice sweaty scene which is followed by... (excuse the burst of enthusiasm) ONE FUCKING GREAT WHIPPING SCENE!! Lisa, stark naked and sweat drenched, tied in the doorway of the bedroom. It seems to go on forever (and we wish it would) as she twitches and jiggles to high heaven. Very nice indeed.

There's more, but not enough time to go into it all. I particularly liked the moment near the end when she is pulled by her hair across the room to the bed. It only lasts a second, but its one of those little ZFX touches that keeps me an avid viewer.

The Apartment- I rate it high.

They just uploaded the UNCUT version of my all time favorite sleepytime fun

this is in my opinion the best forbiden video production for story and action

now I just hope they continue to upload all their movies in UNCUT format

Catch her by surprise, force her into unnatural acts that an everyday lady would never think of. Frighten and humble her, play games with her mind.

www.davedarke.com - I am reeeeally tempted to go ahead and join - has anyone gone ahead and signed up? The action looks excellent, but how is the quantity and quality of content?

www.bizarreadultclub.com - these folks are the source of those fantastic breast bondage clips baronorca posted

www.infemdom.com - don't panic - the subs are chicks - this site appears to be realted to the prior site.

The other two sites you mentioned look kinda interesting but the big but is I am always concerned when there are 3 pages of selling the site and then the join page. There are no video samples and the clips are 2 to 3 minutes with full length movies? What does that mean?? How many full length movies?? What kinda of quality?? Why no previews? Why only one update page? Most of the time when the website is vague it is because they are hiding a not so good place.  Maybe I am wrong but I would need to see much more before I would chance anything there.

The brutal violence people started a new website called brutalcatfight. Looks like it could be promising but so far they are updating every other week and there are no video samples.  I usually look for 25 to 30 movies from those guys before a join or rejoined.

I just finished watching one of Robert Hill's kinky productions called: 'Love Hurts', if any other gimpers have watched this film I'd be interested to know what they think about it. The caption under the title reads: 'Bondage and Powertools", but this appears to be false advertising, basically weird bondage with surgical head frames, rubber masks and rough sex (not Simulated!!), urination (which I could have done without!!!)

The girls are average, 2 of them you never get to see their faces because of theirs masks but the bods are ok!, there is a Mexican looking chick: SELENA which I wouldn't kick out of bed even if she had b.o., the only bit which qualifies as 'bondage' is a complex knots scene featuring a girl with half her face bandaged, getting mauled with sharp objects and whipped by a bikie lookalike (You Yanks called then Bikers, so we know what we're talking about)

The only powertool I saw, was a girl at the beginning revving up a cordless drill...that's about it, cheap and nasty sci-fi effects....it promised so much!!, but there you go. Great cover!!, though...I should have bought the other choice: Zippered Psycho featuring Dru Berrymore.

Anyway...next time.

We just don't have enough of them!!

As a matter of fact I have seen this film and it is as we say in German " Schlimm, langweilig, Scheise!, Bad boring and shitty, I expected more from such sleazemeister as Herr Robert Hill, c'mon! A couple of tarts in rubber suits in one of the worst erotic dances ever caught on film and a golden shower pissing finale, not once but twice and in slow motion (mmm..I always thought women have a much more powerful stream!!) let's say I find scat [even mild scat] rather repulsive even though I'm German and there's seems to be a lot of Scat around these parts of the Rhineland. 

Getting back to the film, the only thing going for it is the "bizarro sex novelty" like the power tools but this is merely a 'lure', chicks with bandages and cervical frames the kind used in accident getting banged by a bozo with a big dick in a rubber cap {his head in the rubber cap not his dick!!) Tut mir leid, Englisch is only my second language so... Entschuldigung! If my syntax is up shit creek!! The last 20 mins of this film contains what we gimpers might call Bondage, the ropework is very very impressive...my favourite part is when this Hulk Hogan look-alike tortures the victim with a pair of Nightmare on Elm St "Freddy Kruger" gloves (you know with blades on each finger) and then teases with a knife.. and that's about it!

I feel the ZFX product despite certain imperfections, still packs a 'punch', because 'Love Hurts' certainly doesn't.

Next!

Sometimes, it seems like there is about 10 posters here and 4 of them are Larry at VM. Stop floogin your bootleg shit here here scumbag, its really growing tiresome.=)

Just a thought I wanted to share.

I hope the Gimp board readers have been enjoying the vid caps from my latest video, "Dark Penance." My thanks to Ralphus for kindly posting them over the past few days.

I wanted to take this opportunity to tell the Gimpers a little bit more about myself. First of all, I am relatively new to the BDSM video business. I have been shooting and editing for about the past 2 years and am excited to finally have the opportunity to release my work.

It is probably obvious to those who have viewed my material that I am strongly influenced by Dan Hawke. Dan, in turn, has acknowledged the influence by some of the greatest classic binders of all, including HOM, Jay Edwards, and others. I have always believed that if you are going to follow in someone's footsteps, you might as well follow the best. I am truly humbled to be joining the ranks of those I have long admired.

Viewers will notice some similarities between my work and Dan's, but there are also some differences. I will leave it up to the viewer to make these distinctions. I think it is safe to say, however, that if you enjoy Dan's work, you will probably enjoy mine as well.

My web site have been active for about a month and the membership is growing steadily. I am pleased to say that there have been no complaints or cancellations so far. Maybe I am doing something right after all.

I hope the Gimp board readers will take a moment to visit my site, take a look around, and consider joining. For those who enjoy a no-nonsense style of strict, hard, painful bondage, you won't be disappointed. I welcome any and all comments, questions, feedback, and suggestions from viewers.

Enjoy!

Dave Darke

Any specials for GIMPers that join your site?

Can't wait to see The Apartment.

Just popping in a moment to confirm that The Apartment has indeed been released. Ralphus has a review copy and should be reviewing it soon. The streaming site has been massively expanded, I now have virtually every ZFX and Shockwave movie up there, about 140 movies, including The Apartment. There are censored captures on the site as well as a rather tame free preview of the movie at www.zfxvideo.com. Im sending Ralphus the uncensored captures to post here if he wants. I still plan to make, and am working on a downloadable site with 3D art, movies, captures and photos, but it may be a while yet.

New Stuff: Been doing a bit of shooting this winter, it will be a while before these shows come out, but let me tell you this is some phenomenal stuff with a phenomenal model. I think many people will really dig it.

Rob Black: Dont know if I've posted since the whole Rob Black thing but its some great news. It doesnt change anything on the surface, but I know this definitely threw a wrench in the monkeyworks of the Government and thats never a bad thing! If the appeals court upholds this ruling, that will be the big test. If so, Im guessing we could be seeing the beginning of the end of obscenity prosecution as we know it. Lets not count our chickens just yet though.

Thats it for now...

Peace, Love and Bondage,

Rick

I made a post yesterday or the day before on what I consider very important things to have in a good bdsm movie. Unfortunately most of those things are ignored in American movies but the Japanese movies have it pretty well nailed down. Things that are really important to me are plot, regular looking girls. Not into tattoos, body piercings, fake tits and shaved pussies. These factors subtract away from bdsm movies in my opinion. The Japanese bdsm movies most always have a plot, good looking unmarked women and realistic action. I think our American producers could learn a ton from these Japanese movies so quite frankly I am happy they are available to me and I don't have to import them.

Another thing is these movies come out in bunches. As a fan I am not the type of person that wants to collect one or two pieces a month I am looking to collect many pieces and the Japanese market fits the bill.

To start off with I think ZFX movies are great but the two possibly short comings are action is a bit unrealistic and the other nagging problem is Rick just doesn't release enough product to keep me happy. I think he has left a big void in the American market. The one great thing about ZFX are the setting and plots.

Next we go to Dan Hawke and Dave Darke and Insex movies. These people do a lot of stuff right and make good movies also. They have good tight bondage and some hard s&m. I also enjoy the way Dan cuts away a lot of his models clothes.  The part where they fall short of the perfect movie is sometimes the stockings and of course tattoos and piercings do subtract points for me. The other thing I which I feel is needed to be my dream movie is good plots. 

The problem with Insex is they don't release dvd's and for the most part I am tired of crappy internet quality videos. Insex experimented with some HD movies last year which were great quality but I think they might have done away with them.

So yes, these websites offer decent quality but after watching dvd's it is hard for me to get into watching 350 or 400 kbps movies. I recently watched a Forbidden video as I was trying to cut a deal with Steve and I also thought he made a good movie. I watched Black Market Bondage and felt the atmosphere was zfxish and a good looking actress so I found value in the movie. It was short in the bondage and s&m dept but still had promise.

So I guess the homerun of bondage videos would be a ZFX plot with some Dan Hawke and Dave Darke and Insex bondage and s&m and throw in some sex from Forbidden and you got the ultimate bondage video.  I think the Japanese deliver this a good portion of the time which make me a big fan. I feel if you take the top 1200 movies from Mayhem and threw in 8800 more movies from around the world and rank them the 1200 movies might fit into the top 1300 of the 10000.

A few things I don't like about the Japanese movies is the censorship factor {those crazy pixels} and I hate the school girl sailor look that is in many movies.  So my point Scion is maybe Larry's website gives the American something to shoot for because if they get those factors right I think we can blow away the movies from Japan.

So I guess as a fan I am happy for the competition because it may mean better USA movies for all of us in the future. I think all manufacturers should order a bunch of these Japanese movies and compare there finished product side by side and say does my movie compete with quality, does my movie compete with plot, does my movie compete with intensity and is my actress as believable as theirs.  So Scion for me Mayhem has never really been about cheap prices but just fantastic movies with most elements I like to see. I am only one individual fan but a pretty experienced fan and I am sure some share my passion for these needed elements. 

One thing I will say is that it contains not one, not two, but THREE rape scenes, plus one bondage scene where Lisa Kinkaid gets sodomized with one of her own dildoes on her bed, tied face down with stockings in classic bondage "starfish" formation. BTW, when the maintenace man ripped off her panties showing Lisa's gorgeous butt, that was BRILLIANT!

Now there was some traditional bondage/torture RM is known for, some whipping, some clothespins torture, but that made up no more than 1/3 of the movie.

CAUTION: There is an abundance of "plastic sex" in the movie, but it is kept as discreet as possible and between that and the acting being realistic and rather good, this shouldn't be an issue for you.

Also, on a lighter note, there is a section for outtakes, to give the movie a more humane and "lighthearted" atmosphere.

Overall, this was a very good movie, and the only thing keeping me from giving it an A+ was that there wasn't at least one additional scene that involved Lisa's panties being ripped off her. Yeah, I'm fickle that way.

But all in all, I give The Apartment a solid A.

g-in-o and Gimp Fiction: Thanks for your respective reviews. Both will be added to the database. I'll have my own review coming soon, as well as exclusive stills from Rick's new opus. So call your friends, wake the neighbors, tell your parents (on second thought, nix that last part...). Everyone needs to tune into the GIMP board beginning late tonight for your first look at screen captures from The Apartment; this is the only place on the net where you can see them.

Well, I know I'm excited :)

Meanwhile, The Apartment sounds really good. While I still have my doubts about the whole Lisa-in-pony-tails business, it will be interesting to read Ralphus's review.

I agree with you about the fake tits and the tats (although small subtle tats in moderation are okay), but I completely disagree with you about the piercings and shaved muffs. I am so glad the trends for these are growing - young women nowadays are increasingly adopting these looks.

I HATE hairy pussies. They're just not as attractive. They cover up too much. They're smellier. And, they are discourteous. Nothing ruins a pleasant oral sex session with a woman more than getting public hairs in your mouth or up your nose making your nose run and tickle and having to sneeze. A thoughtful woman will shave herself completely down there to make things easier for her man. I think the day will soon be here when a woman refusing to shave her pubes strikes people as just as bizarre as those few women who refuse now to shave their legs or under their arms.

Before people start slinging the sexism Barbie doll argument, FWIW I think guys should shave their pubes, too. I like getting BJs from my girlfriends. I have been shaving for years, to make it easier and more pleasant for them.

As to piercings, if subtle they're all good. Women's bellies, for example, in my opinion are one of their sexist features, and nothing looks better than a woman's flat belly with a belly ring on the belly button. And nipple rings? Wow, sexy as all get out.

As I said, this look is being increasingly adopted by young women. Maybe it is different in your world, but in my world, thankfully shaved pussies with piercings ARE the "natural, wholesome girl" look. Their lack just makes a woman look dated and out-of-touch to me.

One of the great things about this board is how so many mileages vary here. Of course I respect any differing opinions. But please, too, don't post your thoughts as though you are reciting the only true way. Just for the record, I think your idea of an attractive woman is downright ugly and bizarre. So move over and make room for me - I am here on this board, too.

zee-ef-ex

Anyone know what movie the linked clips are from? She looks hot in that fetishy gear. And look how long she holds a cock fully down her throat. Can any other modern day porn actress deep throat as well as she?

Rick, putting her in a ZFX movie would be the coup of a lifetime. And I bet she'd be game for it.

So, what movie is it?

zee-ef-ex

Just my two cents regarding piercings and tats, and I'm keeping this in context with the theme of this board, which concerns bondage videos: I don't like them, because my ideal victim is not one who marks up her body. Her body is precious to her, and she's not going to stamp it with marks and symbols and piercings that can only be seen by others when she's naked. It's almost like an invitation for others to see her nude body, like an advertisement. It cheapens her. If the bad guy is going to tie her up and strip her, it takes something away because it's obvious she's been naked in front of guys before (at least one, her tattoo artist, assuming he's a male), and probably is more comfortable with that idea.

Now, my victim should be shocked...ashamed...crying...that this evil man is taking off her clothes and exposing her. She might even be a virgin. To me, that is a much more appealing object to be taken than someone who's open enough with her body that she has no problem with using it as an artistic canvas.

Also, could we stop this bickering amongst fellow gimpers? If I want stress and conflict I can find plenty of that at work.

An 'Amerikanische' who lives in Cleveland, OH, friend sent me a copy of Cheerleaders of Perilous High, I haven't seen it yet, looks promising, it's a few years old but I don't think that it has been reviewed on the post.  I was thinking we should have a 'star' rating for films we discuss  ie. 5 gags out five? 3 whips out 5? or 4 electro-shocks out of 5?, whatever or even out of 10, not a bad idea.

Take care Gimpers!!

On the other hand when the pussy is hairy my brain tells me she wasn't expecting this and stripping her is even more fun. I have always loved nudity and the damsel in distress thing may be more fun to see something I wasn't suppose to see. So that is where I am coming from.  I have also never said my preference was the only proper way to make a movie I just enjoy sharing my opinions on the boards every once in a while.

Here's to hoping your girlfriend loses her razor!!!  Just kidding  have a good one!!

I like to see what I like, which is a great looking woman (fill in your own definition here). To me tattoos, piercings and shaving are a plus, the more intimate the better. I agree with Ralphus that in reality a woman with tattoos and piercings is probably more comfortable with exhibiting her body, but that doesn't mean she can't act "shocked...ashamed" etc. Any poor talent can look bored, badly fake the situation - pick whatever bad acting effect gives you the thumbs down; whether she's modified, shaved, or not. It still comes down to the "does she help make this scene believable or not".

Lisa Kinkaid: very popular with Gimpers because she gives good/great performances. Lisa Kinkaid with a belly ring: still very popular? I think so!

Graham....

The european Club Doma videos (and some Slavesex) are good for this, head shaved fat ugly women carrying more metal than Detroit, lazily whipping (fly swatting) some uninterested looking victim who appears to be almost comatose with boredom.

Belly rings can be discrete, but not lips (both sorts) or nose or nipples, I cant help feeling that she is more likely to enjoy the action if she has already suffered this sort of self-abuse, I dont care what anyone says, bondage by its nature should always appear to be nc, even if only mild, whats the point of tying someone up if they are likely agree to it! might as well just ask them to hold their hands behind their back while you assault them!.

Pussies should always be shaved for me, I dont mind a Brazilian as long as its neat, I would love to see a scene where the unshaven victim is strapped down and plucked with tweezers, one by one! and you get to see the result, one pink pussy! (Hey! I can dream)

2 cents done

To me seeing a womens hairy pussy is like a sign that says "do not look here" as she trys to cover up her pubes. Add bondage, threats, humiliation and you have the ideal scene. Binding her prevents her from covering her privates, is that not what it is all about.

First to Ralphus: Thanx for the feedback and I'm glad you liked my review, though I didn't say nearly as much as I wanted to, but I did want to whet your appetite for what to expect regarding The Apartment.

Also, I referred your site to the employees at the local fetish shop here in town, one of the employees surfed the site and said that he liked what he saw. In addition, I am trying to give them recommendations on some of the fetish videos to purchase and they have been seriously considering them; one thing that will be a hard sell though will be vids involving forced sex/rape even though The Apartment will probably be one of their hottest items, IMO. One of the employees at a sister store said that they had no plans to purchase such vids for fear of "governmental intervention". But I think now that the elections are over, the censorship climate isn't as tense as it was in '04 and they may possibly reconsider this decision in the coming months ahead. I'll keep you posted if this happens and maybe you can come on down and check 'em out.

Also, I have been wanting to view this site's pix and clips, but because I have been using a library computer, this hasn't been possible. But with the Extravaganza sale being this weekend, I am hoping to buy a computer dirt cheap and I'll be able to surf this site more often (too risky surfing here as it is).

More info later...

Shaving: I don't care too much about this one (I'm also old enough to remember the dark forests of the '70s). However, my preference is for nicely trimmed but still showing some signs of bush. I don't like it when a woman is totally shaved.

Piercings: I like belly rings and some other piercings. However, there are three areas where I hate to see jewelry -- the nose, the nipples and/or the vagina. I can't explain it but I don't like it.

Tattoos: Don't like 'em, don't like to see 'em. I can tolerate the small ones and I'm reasonably forgiving with a bigger tattoo if the woman is really hot. Women who sport a lot of tattoos are a total turn off.

The absolute worst: too many tattoos AND rings hanging from the nipples and/or vagina. Usually, if an actress has that sort of look, I won't watch.

I'll add one more to the mix, which I've mentioned before: boob jobs. Usually, they're badly done and look really fake. I would much rather see tiny titties than fake boobs.

Hard to believe an entire year has passed since we've had a new movie from Rick Masters and ZFX, but the release of The Apartment is worth the wait. Even more amazingly, the footage for this new one was shot over 4 years ago, back in late 2000, and is just now being released. Which proves there's still some gold left in the ZFX vaults.

This one stars perennial ZFX favorite Lisa Kinkaid, and I guess Rick must have thought we were tired of looking at her in movie after movie, so he alters her appearance by having her wear her hair in big ridiculous pigtails, like a brunette Pippi Longstocking. It's not a good look, but she still has that smokin' body and plays a victim so well, I can forgive that.

This is a return to the simple home invasion theme, which ZFX nearly perfected with Forced Entry years ago, but this one has a twist, because you're never really sure which is reality and which is a dream. You just have to watch and let the story unfold.

The story begins with Lisa making a call to have her garbage disposal fixed. When the maintenance guy (played by Jesse Keddings) arrives, he does a quick repair, then suddenly lunges at Lisa and begins to rip her clothes off. Pulling her shirt into her mouth as a makeshift gag, he forces her hands behind her and mounts her from behind. He lubes her ass with a squeeze from a container of mustard (!) and follows by sticking his cock in there, too (Insert your own mustard/weiner joke here). What follows is a brutal anal rape, or is it? A minute later, we cut to Jesse again finishing up his repair and nothing has happened. Lisa lets him out and closes the door.

But it's not long before Lisa gets an anonymous phone call from a voice telling her in graphic detail what he's going to do to her. It is, of course, her lustful secret admirer, the maintenance guy. Lisa hangs up, but can't get out of her mind all the threats she just heard. We see a series of shots of Lisa imagining herself being violated by him in various ways, including being ridden like a horse with her own pigtails as the reigns! We even see a trace a blood seeping from her ass after being butt-fucked. As usual with ZFX, all the insert shots are simulated, but the footage is hot, even though Lisa is unbound throughout.

This is followed by a scene of Lisa masturbating while taking a shower. Is she fantasizing about being raped? There doesn't seem to be any other reason for this scene other than to give us an eyeful of how awesome Lisa's body looks naked (and it does indeed). Gratuitous eye candy like this, I can deal with.

The maintenance guy, now wearing a stocking over his head, breaks into her apartment and grabs Lisa as she's leaving the bathroom. He chokes her into unconsciousness and throws her on the bed. This is where the movie really takes off, in my opinion.

He positions Lisa spreadeagled on the bed, face down, with a pillow under her midsection to raise up her ass. After tying her so that her limbs are spread wide, he rips off her panties, stuffs them inside a stocking, and crams them into her mouth, tightening the rest of the stocking around the back of her neck. Going through her dresser drawers, he finds a huge, thick vibrator, which then uses to painfully shove up the squirming girl's ass. Afterward, he tightens a belt around her body, forcing the vibe deep inside, and lets her suffer a while.

This is followed by a scene where Jesse has Lisa tied up on her knees inside a closet. There is a noose around her neck and her arms are tied off helplessly above her head. Duct tape seals her mouth shut, and she can only moan through her gag as several clothespins are applied to her breasts and her pussy lips. Director Masters lets his camera explore every inch of her suffering, simply an outstanding segment.

But then he takes it even further, much to my pleasant surprise. The guy turns up the heat, literally, until the temperature in the room reaches 90 degrees and Lisa's body is covered in sweat. I love the idea that he went that extra step and made her torture even more unbearable.

And it gets better. Although she's weak and drained from the heat, it doesn't stop him from tying her in a standing spreadeagle in her doorway. After gagging her once again with the panty stuffed stocking, he takes his belt and delivers a nasty whipping, the kind of typically harsh and brutal whipping segment that ZFX has excelled in over the years. Direction, editing, sound effects, and Lisa's agonized reactions combine to make this scene exceptional. Great stuff.

Afterward, we see Lisa tied to a chair in a particularly uncomfortable way, hands tied behind, elbows lashed together, and her ankles tied to the back legs of the chair, leaving her pussy open and vulnerable. Clothespins are clamped to her pussy lips and nipples and tied off away from her, causing her extra pain if she moves even a little bit. Jesse fills her mouth with a dishcloth and ties it into place to silence her moans. After watching her struggle a while, he fingers her pussy and shoots his load all over her body.

The finale is another short but intense rape scene, where Jesse forces an unbound Lisa onto the bed, holding her down while pounding himself into her. This dissolves into Lisa back in the shower as before. Was this all just a dream, a fantasy? As she leaves the bathroom, there he is again, grabbing her from behind. It's all beginning again.

This is another masterwork from ZFX, with another great performance from Lisa and an equally fine turn by Jesse Keddings as the villain. Does this compare favorably to Forced Entry, considered by many to be the definitive ZFX home invasion flick? I think it does. It's quicker paced, with a heavier emphasis on rape and just enough brutal scenes to please torture fans. My only real criticism (other than Lisa's hair) is that it takes nearly half the movie before she gets tied up. There's lots of rape, but no real bondage rape. I would have enjoyed the earlier scenes more if she had been tied up, but overall, it's still an entertaining ride and an absolute must-have for fans of forced sex.
My grade: B+

OK, I thought I would add my 2 cents. Regarding pussy hair... well, it all depends on what the setup is. If the girls is supposed to be a slut who is, for example, getting her due from the wife or girlfriend of the guy she was hitting on or cheating with, a slutty shaved look is fine, but a truly innocent victim would work better with a full bush... anybody who grew up on HOM cannot be against bush, lol.

About tats, it's kind of the same thing, except I never like big, intrusive tats, but some small, strategically placed tats on a slut getting her just reward is OK as long as it's consistent with the setup. However, I would say I prefer a story where a truly innocent victim, bushy and tat-free, is paying for the transgressions of another or is simply the victim of a random act of perversion.

Lisa in a HOMage to Special Request scene

You know, I think that is a fantastic match - both Lisa and the model in the original have a natural fullness to their bodies that make that shower scene especially nice, and that scene might make this movie worth a purchase for me (though I would probably not dig the rape scenes... I know - I'm in the minority here)

Sorry, sorry couldn't resist it. ROFL

To me Forced Entry is one of and on many days my favorite ZFX flick. I think Ralphus has it right that this is a worth successor. I give FE a slight nod as it has two victims, and for my money the more girls the better

On the other hand Apt. is better acted as the hottie in FE was a bit bland. Lisa does a great job here and that is coming from someone who has gotten a little tired of Lisa...in that there are only so many times I want to see the same girl attacked. But this is a strong effort and overcomes the over exposure.

Being that I like the force parts, the first half of the movie is pure gold. The krank call bit works really well too. The second half slows down, reverting back to early ZFX fair, clothes pins, the obligitory whipping scene etc. I agree with the one poster below who loved the dragging by the hair scene at the end, very good!

You don't need bondage all the time. Control and power is the turn on. And having the villian manhandle Lisa, physically control her is just as erotic if not more so since we don't see that enough.

I think B+ is a fair grade, but I will give it an A- because I want to see more vids like this!

Get a load of this: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/pyromania44/felix.jpg

Good God! All of a sudden Forbidden is coming up with the babes. First Luccia and now this chick. That's good news, because casting is the most important aspect of making one of these movies work.

No details yet on what's gonna be in this new one, but according to Steve, the story is very very cool. Let's hope he ties her up and does bad stuff to her.

Welcome to all our new visitors. I know a lot of you are here because I announced that we have the new caps from the new ZFX vid, The Apartment. Be sure and come here every day, because I post a new free picture at bedtime every night.

And you know, you ARE allowed to post your comments; please don't just stop by and leave without saying anything. We've had nearly 700 hits since 2 this morning and zero posts today. The reason this board is great is because our visitors share their opinions with the rest of the forum. If no one says anything, it's not much fun.

So don't be shy. Posting is free and easy, you just need a couple fingers to type and something to say. Help us out, okay?

Here's a mainstream title that's worth checking out. Caught the movie "Hostage" last night, starring Bruce Willis. Had a couple of good bondage scenes, IMO. One where the young teenage girl was restrained to a chair and the other time she was spread-eagled to the bed. He gagged her with tape both times. At one point he removes the gag-- too gently IMO--and then he offers her a drag of a joint, but she refuses and so he blows the smoke in her face.  She chokes the first time, but the second drag she opens her mouth for and accepts it. Her "keeper" never really punished her, but both scenes were still pretty good.

Getting in the car my husband, Mr. Vanilla, asked me if I was disappointed that he didn’t rape her. Truly I was a little disappointed, but she did the scared routine pretty well. He also said, "And you would have been happier if he had tied her on her stomach and whipped her." Think he's onto me?

Maybe Rick or Steve should remake that and show them how to really improve a bondage scene :)

Simply take the GIMP scene from Pulp Fiction, replace Bruce and Ving Rhames with some attractive women, add some whippings and perhaps some electric shocks, and you're done. How tough is that?

First of all, there's not a plot...each scene begins abruptly, with Flade already tied up and Isaac going at her. I guess we're supposed to believe she's an unwilling victim, based on her groans of protest during the sex, but anyone looking for a ZFX-type set-up for the action will be disappointed. Secondly, Isaac rapes her with all the zest of a guy flipping burgers at your local fast-food palace...Zack needs to watch some mainstream porn, or even some ZFX scenes to get an idea of how it's done.

I should applaud the fact that someone's willing to combine uncensored sex with bondage, but it hardly matters if it's going to be done in such a lackluster fashion. Also, this movie clocks in at a paltry thirty-two minutes, which makes the $35 price tag seem excessive. Give it a pass, and here's hoping that Miss Flade is better exploited in their next effort.

Blowing smoke in the face...Yeah! Fetish alert for me. I know it may seem relatively minor to most people, but I really dig it when a tied-up chick has smoke blown in her face and she coughs. It's not really hurting her or anything, but it's a cool way for the villain to be mean to her and show that he's got all the power and can do anything he wants, without any regard for her whatsoever. It's probably just me, but does anybody else like that?

Actually, I can't recall having seen a scene like that (maybe it's on the stupid list of things that are banned in Canada). Having said that, it doesn't sound like something that would do anything for me.

On the Web I found the information below about a torture centre in Chile during the dictatorship. It was called "La Venda Sexy" (The Sexy Blindfold). Anyone who knows anything more about it? It seems to have been a place for sexual explicite torture, mostly inflicted on young women. (Terrible and disgusting in reality of course.) /E

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"From mid-November until mid-December 1974, a DINA team, apparently not the one operating at Villa Grimaldi, arrested a large number of MIR activists. They were held and interrogated at the site known as La Venda Sexy, which operated throughout the early months of 1975. Most of those held prisoner at La Venda Sexy were very young and most of them had political and personal ties to other prisoners.

The torture methods here were differentiated from those of the other centers in that they were more sexual in nature. Rape and sexual abuse of the women prisoners by agents and guards was common. Male prisoners were often victims of sexual abuse as well. The "grill" and electric shock treatments were also frequently used in the center. Torture sessions were alternated with periods of rest and better treatment by the guards as a method of obtaining the desired information."

I just finished watching it and I concur with what everybody is saying. Great film. However, my pet peeve, I would love to see someone other than LISA KiNCAID in a ZFX film, What, does she have a 100 film movie deal with Rick?

From what I've read in a previous post, The Apartment was actually shot four years ago. So, I guess we have to make allowances.

On another topic, I agree with the review of Natasha Flade's Bondage Sex. What a waste! A beautiful, knock dead georgeous woman and the film has absolutely no imagination. Her screams are like high pitched squeals which have a tendancy to be annoying after a while. As stated before there is a lack of plot and a lack of variety in choice of gags. She is cleave gagged in all the vinettes - boring.

Thanks.

My latest order was about a month ago, which I got email confirmations for, and was billed.... but received no order.... I have been trying to contact Larry at the site's email address ( mayhem50@webtv.net ), but all keep coming back as " NOT DELIVERABLE ". I also sent letter to the PO BOX via snail mail, but no response.

I think someone else posted a while back with same problem?

Received your letter today. The order was mailed on Friday. One title was out of stock which caused delay. Email should be working fine. Have been in business since 1997 and hope to be for many years to come. Sorry for the delay with your order.

I figured the Natasha Flade video would be like that so I just joined the site for a month and got all the short clips. Sounds like I've already seen everything in the video. There are a couple of good grabs and struggles, but she definitely needs to beef up the storyline and get some better camera work in there.

And even though she struggles, something still reeks of consent. Oh well, it was worth $15.

Looks like he's finally overcome his fear of showing girls tied up with actual hardcore sex, too, as evidenced by his last title, Moved To Tears. Whether he can take the next step, though, which would be to have the girls actually raped (and not end up ultimately consenting) remains to be seen. He's done it before in some of his titles, and he was close this last time. Really, it's just a matter of how you present it. Show the girl struggling and crying and definitely not liking it, and that works for me. He should be about ready to film her this week, and I know he read my review about what was lacking about the last one, so maybe he'll be a bit rougher with this new girl. She sure is gorgeous; let's hope he knows what to do to her.

For all you Gimpers who are thinking to relocating to sunny Australia (Temperature at the moment in Sydney, New South Wales is 29 degrees centigrade or 84.2 degrees farenheit, clear skies and you wouldn't believe it we are in Autumn (Fall), bloody amazing!...anyway...Finally ZFX is available in DVD!!, until now all we could get down under was in video format (PAL) and most of these were bootlegs! ZFX DVDs retail for A$50.00 which is about U$25.00, ZFX vids are priced at A$20.00 = U$10.00 depending on the exchange rate of the date of the day....which is BLOODY GREAT, I am curious about the legality of these, since in my experience all ZFX films sold Downunder are "pirate" copies.

Better grab the towel and sunscreen lotion and head for the beach!!....I might get some new ideas for a first Aussie ZFX production...let's see..."Bondi Beach Bikini Babes in Bondage"...sounds allright, how about it Mr Masters? Bewdy, Bonza catch ya later, fellas!!

That reminds me of the shower scene in the Apartment, and why most "vanilla" porn is boring. In the Apartment, there is the illusion that you are seeing something real as Lisa's hand drops down between her legs. Most porn is shot with the camera fully in mind, and often with the actors interacting with the "viewer" in some way that shows they are aware of being filmed. Gets kind of boring after awhile.

However, I'd be curious, as to how many of us readers actually share your obsession with Ms. Kincaid

Let's take a poll. How about it gang?

How many of you want to see more of Lisa and how many want to see other actresses?

Let's keep this in on a strictly fun level. If I offend anybody, that is not my intention. This is not meant to povoke anger and/or to make folks defensive.

Thanks.

That's my main issue with ZFX. The scenes I respond to are the ones that genuinely feel sinister, where the threat is real and the acting is good. I suspect that's why Rick likes Lisa so much; she sells every scene. Most of the time-- and this is just me, I'm sure a hundred people here will disagree vigorously - I find the ZFX videos way over-the-top, campy, and plain silly.

I think Rick uses Lisa over and over because she's local and because he knows he can count on her to deliver the goods. They're a good team, Rick and Lisa, just like how Scorsese kept casting DeNiro in all those movies a while back. You go with someone you're comfortable with, who's going to make your product better because they are in it.

That said, I like variety, too. For a while, Rick had a stable of actresses (and actors) who he went with over and over...people like Penelope Pace, Chandra Sweet, and in the earlier days, Alison Parish, Victoria Vixxen and Courtney Bishop. I think all of them are long gone now, and Lisa is the only one still around. To his credit, Rick has done a great job of casting girl-next-door types in his movies, and I would think if he could find someone else like a Chandra to work with him, he would. If all that is available is some tattoo chick, I would prefer he stay with Lisa. He did mention in his post that he has found a "phenomenal model" to work with, so we may be seeing someone new eventually. I would say at this rate, look for her in about the year 2009 :)

Mark me down as obsessed.

Actually, at the risk of being branded a pessimist, it's possible Lisa has already split the ZFX scene. By my count, she hasn't made a new movie in at least a couple of years (I believe The Apartment was filmed in late 2000). Who knows if she'll make another?

Fortunately, in my case, there are still some older Lisa movies I haven't seen, such as the Guilty movies and the Ballista films. So I can continue my obsession for some time yet.

I do like the idea of having variety and bringing in new actresses. I particularly like the fact that ZFX often has actresses that haven't appeared anywhere else.

There’s one way to help poor acting…. Lessons. Do a 100% real scene, enough for 15 min of movie footage. Then let the talent view the raw footage as many times as they like after you’ve pointed out all the great reactions, sounds, etc. I think that some of the European talent is up for this “real deal” approach, but it’s usually for the Slave/submissive type movies – not the same audience appeal.

In his HOM days I think Rick did a short where he acted as a talent agent, got a model to sign a contract, strip to show she had no marks or burses on her body and he co-signed she was mark free. Then he re renders her unconscious and phones up some guy to confirm that he actually has footage of her consensually stripping and signing the document. It turns out the document is for B&D footage so he brings her round and goes to work. Rick do you remember this, or is my futile imagination working overtime?

I’d like to see ZFX increase the pool of talent for its movies, perhaps we should put them in contact with someone like Dan Hawke, how do the Gimpers feel about his talent pool? http://www.dan-hawke.com/main.html

Graham....

To Ralphus: I can't recall which video I'm referring too, but there are some outakes with Rick and Lisa. You can tell that they work very well together and even have fun. Lisa looks very relaxed and comfortable with him. You sense they are great friends. Did you say 2009! Good grief! I'll be drawing social security by then. Say it isn't so, I may be dead by then. Guess I'll have to go with the georgous girl on the pending new Forbiden Video.

Still not enough!!

Jeeeez, some gimpers are never happy, may be they'll start complaining that there's too much bondage in ZFX films!!,,,,,,By the way, how old is Lisa?..dare one ask? Be happy we've got a "sultry latinesque girl next door -meets Desi Arnaz" crossed with a touch of Maria Conchita Alonzo (you know the Venezuelan model turned actress), judging by what I've seen in some "other" Bondage productions we could have ended up with a chick who looks like Andrea Dworkin!!, now that's a worrysome and terrifying thought!

Jazzdart: Not sure which DVD you're referring to, but all the new ones have outtakes with Rick and Lisa relaxing and engaging in jokey Smalltalk between shots. Might have been Dirty Dreams you're thinking of, I don't know. That's part of the reason I love watching the outtakes. I just can't get enough of the behind-the-scenes stuff.

I was joking about 2009, but who knows? This new movie was shot in 2000 and released in 2005. Bitter Sweet Persuasion took about 4 years from initial shoot to final release in 2004. I don't think it's that unusual. I know that our friend and fellow artist Dan Hawke recently released some footage of Liz Tyler and Mallory Knots that was shot before their stints with Insex, and it was years ago that they performed for PD. Liz had already retired by the time Dan released her video, in fact. So Dan might be even further behind than Rick.

A Canadian: We haven't seen the last of Lisa. In December 23, 2003, Rick mentioned on the board that he had just shot some new stuff with Lisa that previous weekend; reason I remember is that he sent me a bunch of stills from the shoot that I posted here. So we know there is at least some more Lisa footage in the vaults that has not been edited yet. If you want to look at the pics, I reposted the links in my January 5, 2004 posting, and all the URLs still work (Homepage URL above).

Could you imagine if they made a movie together!

Deniro: You talking to me? You gotta be talking to me. Ain't nobody else here!

Lisa: Mmmnnphhh....

Graham....

Not enough other actresses? Yes.

I, too, like variety, and I, too, like tall thin girls. Lisa just makes the cut for me bodywise.

I totally agree with the poster about the aging, bleached blond, huge fake tits, bored bondage actresses. I can see them on a web site and they do nothing for me, turn me on not one iota.

Why are there so many of them?

One thing I have wondered, are there so many because younger girls are afraid to do bondage/kink? Or, relatedly, because the women start aging and are less attractive than the 19 yr olds and so fetish is the only work they can get?

In any event, there seems to be an overabundance of aging, boring blonds in bondage. I don't fully understand it. I wish more of those no-nude and teen girl sites would be bondage oriented.

zee-ef-ex

BTW, for those who like the lunacrush site (I think she looks like a younger natasha flade) and dont require nudity or gags with bondage, she's gonna release her first video soon and you can see some caps at the link above.  I think the relicraider (sister site) videos ive bought were fairly good.

"Certainly, Alba is the rare young actress who insists on some of the more conservative contracts in Hollywood, like the no-nudity clause inserted for her work in Into the Blue. But that can be a tough posture to defend when your day job finds you—as Alba’s does in Sin City—bound, gagged, and underdressed, being whipped by some grimy yellow freak."

Now I wanna see that movie even more.

I'd have nothing against seeing other actresses, but I never want to stop seeing Lisa. She doesn't always give it her all, but when she does, it's awesome.

Thees Van Kemp: You may already know this, but forbiddenvideo.com has a bondage movie, After School Surprise, that starred Gauge. I haven't seen it, I just remembered seeing some stills on their web site after Ralphus posted a reference to it in January.

zee-ef-ex

As for the pigtails - I must be a one off here in thinking she wears them quite well. I sure wouldn't want her to wear them in every movie (it would be completely out of place in an SOB type of movie, for example), but somehow, the effect works for me. Same as with Mallory/Piglet in a couple of shorts from Insex.

The only ZFX actress, in my opinion, who does it as well is one in SOB6 & 7 - can't recall her name but she really rocks my boat - I can't get enough of that scene where they have her sitting on that shock machine and she's shaking all over!

Imagine holding a pigtail in each hand and pulling her head down on your cock until YOU decide when to let her up for air.

It doesnt quite work in the Apartment scenes above because the guy has to hold on to his plastic cock with one hand!, if he had worn a strap-on under his pants or (heaven forbid!) used his real cock then he could have held each pigtail to full effect. The same applies to ponytails as well, which would have worked in the above scene.

2 cents done

That electro scene you mentioned is one of the all-time great scenes in ZFX history...when you see Elaine violently twitching on that shock chair, she really makes you believe. Plus the editing, direction, the gleeful reaction of the villains, the animated shock effects, even the smoke pouring out of Elaine's pussy...has Rick ever topped this sequence?

Elaine gives an electrifying performance

I haven't THE APARTMENT, yet, Lisa looks hot as usual and the hired "dick" looks real and the DNA jelly as well, questionable looking prosthetic genitalia is one of my pet hates but I might say that this time it looks pretty real, I'm very impressed, 'cum' to think of it Lisa looks delicious with the man jam on her face, wouldn't be great? if we could entice her to do a 4 hour suck-a-thon 'all Lisa' oral film, that would be like one step closer to Nirvana as I could get on this earth.

Question: if Bondage were an ice-cream flavor, which would it be?, I notice straight Porn is referred to as 'Vanilla' on this post....interesting how you think of it in terms of 'flavor'...just curious that's all....

Mr Masters? any chance of signing Jessica Biel to ZFX?

Auf Wiedersehen from 'EPI'

nb: I saw 2000 degrees (which is mild fetish and 'vanilla' hardcore' directed by Roy Alexandre, Awesome....Your gonads will need to check into a recuperation center after the experience)

Excellent post! Sometimes one has impressions but for some reason can't quite verbalize them or define them, and attach writing skills to the thought processes. Your post did that for me. it all hasn't quite come together yet, has it?

ZFX has been the close, but not quite there, according to our cognitive expectations. Maybe they should use you as a consultant.

For me it's always a bit here and something there. That's why I make my own videos with bits and pieces from  the material I have.

Good thoughtful post my man, keep your cerebral cortex working.

But...strange as it may seem, apparently it's true. Looks like Rick has not only signed her up, he's already shot a new ZFX movie with her. Here's an exclusive still from Rick Masters.

Either that, or it's a cheesy manip, not sure.

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/pyromania44/biel01.jpg

Regarding Lisa, I haven't seen all that many later ZFX releases (I'm old school, still wishing for the return of Victoria Vixxen), so I haven't gotten sick of Lisa - I do find her attractive and like her innocent victim look, but I also think that variety makes for a better appeal - I like videos with multiple girls being tormented together, for example.

I want to chime in with my review of the Natasha's Bondage Sex DVD, a show that has been getting a lot of mostly negative reviews here so far. Actually, I don't think it's bad, especially for a freshman effort. They should be encouraged to keep at it.

In taking a look at the type of videos Natasha Flade has been putting out in the past, which appear to be mostly Harmony-style bondage plots with apparently no sexual content, this new DVD is a revelation, and a positive step in the right direction. What we have now is a series of vignettes, each around a few minutes long, that show the lovely Natasha in a series of bondage positions, in which she is either given forced sex or else made to suck cock. They succeed on that important level, although there is definite room for improvement. They've proved they can do the bondage sex right, but the camerawork is relatively basic and they badly needed a handheld camera that would bring us closer to the action. The first bondage sex segment, for instance, runs over four minutes with no cutting at all, which can get boring after a while, despite the content. The next segments improve upon that with more editing and close ups. It's like an experiment, and the filmmakers are learning from their mistakes.

Hopefully what Natasha and Isaac will learn from this first foray into making a sexual bondage film is NOT to nix the plot, which is needed to give the resulting "rape" scenes more impact. They've certainly got the right performer, because Natasha Flade is a beautiful woman who can emote, and she looks really hot bound and gagged. The male performer, no doubt her boyfriend/lover, needs to give a bit more force in his performance, but otherwise, he plays his role adequately enough, with just the right touch of threatening dialogue.

If Natasha and her crew remake this film, which they certainly should, one suggestion would be to add a storyline, show some onscreen tying and possibly shorten the number of bondage setpieces, or else end them with more finality. What's missing in my mind, what I was really hoping for, was a "money shot" or two, especially during the oral scenes and at the end of the final bondage segment. As it is now, I was left feeling a bit let down that there was no payoff, like having a half hour of foreplay and then just stopping. The ride is nice, but the movie basically plays like an extended version of the trailer that can be downloaded at their site, without really showing anything more.

So a mixed review here, and here's hoping their second effort at this sort of film will add the two elements missing from this one, the setup and the payoff. It's still great to see some hardcore bondage sex, which is hard to find in today's political environment, especially with a performer as appealing as Ms. Flade. Let's hope they learn from this effort and strive to make it better next time. And there will be a Part 2, so that's something to look for.
My grade: C+

Regarding the flavor of bondage; it's like a savory meat, perhaps duck, encased or wrapped in an eye catching covering just waiting to be carved or eaten.

I envision Lisa or another actress happily washing herself in the shower while the villain sneaks up behind her menacingly, ballgag and rope in hand.

And I think to myself, "Whoa, boy, what a ROCKY ROAD she is in for!"

zee-ef-ex

I see some of you have watched my Bondage Sex dvd. Apparently, some of you did not like it very much. I am sorry about that. I thought I would explain about the movie a bit. First of all, as far as I know, damsel in distress bondage with forced sex and real penetration is extremely rare. Everyone is afraid they are breaking the law. Isaac (my husband) and I were trying to push the envelope here, and I think we succeeded. While bondage and hardcore sex may be prevalent is the S&M scenario, I think it is fairly non-existent in the damsel-in-distress arena. That alone, I think, justifies the $35 pricetag and we've had no shortage of persons willing to pay that. The fact that so many were willing to purchase this dvd in spite of the fact it is plotless attests to how rare a movie like this is to come by. (Also, for the member who said he'd basically gotten everything by joining the site, I think there's a big difference between watching the clips on a big television screen and a tiny Real Player screen on your computer!)

Isaac and I are very well aware of the movie's shortcomings. If you have seen any of our other work, then you know our other movies are all plot-driven and extremely professional. There is a lot going on between the bondage scenes. But for Natasha's Bondage Sex, we simply decided to release a bunch of my bondage sex mpegs as a compilation dvd. We never claimed there was any plot on the advertising page, as we do in all our other movies. As Ralphus pointed out, the first scene didn't have any cuts! We saw the lack in this immediately and began shooting from more than one angle.

Unfortunately, these clips are EXTREMELY difficult to make. We have no help, just a tripod. Obviously, we realize we could make a MUCH more quality film with a plot and better cuts and we have discussed this many times, but we would need a cameraman to do so and right now we are not comfortable performing sexually in front of anyone else. To make a movie of the caliber of the other Centaur Celluloid flicks would be impossible without a cameraman and a crew. We have just moved, so we don't know anyone here well enough to have sex in front of them. What we ARE planning to do, though, is to include some bondage sex scenes in our regular, plot-driven movies, so that the sex scene WILL be part of a plot-driven movie.

I realize that many on this forum are into torture, whipping, etc. They may have found my Bondage Sex movie a bit too tame. But Issac and I do not want to make outright "rape" movies. We are trying to walk a thin line between forced fantasies and outright rape, so there are not going to be any hard fighting scenes or Isaac screwing the hell out of me and ripping out my hair or slapping me around. :-) But again, anyone who tours my site or movie selections will realize that that is not what my site or my movies are about.

I do think I could definitely improve the movies, even using a tripod, by having a bit of a plot for each scene, even if it's minor. And some cum shots for those who felt "unfulfilled." I will definitely try to work on that. Unfortunately, in the meantime, we are releasing Natasha's Bondage Sex 2 and is pretty much the same except that I do have an anal scene in it as well. It also includes some girl/girl fondling, but NOT girl/girl penetration. I hope people accept these movies and buy them for what they are: compilations of damsel in distress forced fantasy bondage sex. Isaac and I are are venturing out into this niche where it seems hardly anyone else (maybe no one else?) has yet dared to tread. We are newbies here, and I hope everyone can give us a chance to get our feet wet and get the kinks worked out before slamming us. That's all I ask.

Natasha

I can't speak for the whole board, but I think there's a lot of us here who will probably like Natasha's Bondage Sex. We GIMPers have varying tastes; a lot of us are more into rape fantasies than torture, and like you mentioned, a hardcore bondage film is risky and relatively rare, so you should be applauded for taking the chance.

When I reviewed it, I tried to be honest and accept the film for what it was, and to offer my suggestions as to what might improve it. You have nothing to defend; your movie was exactly as advertised, and although it has its limitations, it's worth checking out.  Also glad to see you're planning on incorporating bondage sex scenes in some of your future releases. I think that's a positive step forward, and one that should attract more fans your way. I know I will checking out your site a lot more from now on.

Like you mentioned, it's rare to find a film with that kind of content, and we all understand the uncertainty around releasing a film that combines sex with bondage.  Forbidden Video is one company who's just decided to test the waters again, and it's good to see another player take the chance, as well.  Best of luck in your future endeavors, and feel free to post to the GIMP anytime; you're always welcome.

If nothing else, I've always thought Ralphus tries to be FAIR, even though true objectivity is not possible. That's why I always read his reviews.

Thanks Natasha for taking the time to communicate in this forum. After all we are your potential customers.

I always find it interesting when reading the board that there is so much discussion about ZFX movies new and old.  I think ZFX movies are really good but in my case they are only a tiny little blip on the radar screen when it comes to my collection.  If Rick released 50 movies a year I would get them all for sure but knowing that we would be lucky to get another release before 2006 it is hard for me to get all pumped up over a ZFX release.

Yet the gimpers are forever discussing ZFX and this got me wondering about all of the other gimpers movie collections or buying habits. In my case owning most of the entire ZFX collection I dont have a lot to look forward to as far as ZFX so I must channel my bdsm collections to many other areas. Now if you are just getting started collecting movies then there is so much ZFX product ahead of you then there is reason for a lot of excitement.  So I have lots of questions to my fellow gimpers and even you manufacturers in the business. 

What is your movie collection like??? How often to you try to add to it??? When and how did you get started?? How much money do you spend and how much are you willing to spend?? What types of tapes do you enjoy the most. Do you collect by yourself or do you have a few trading partners and friends into the same type of thing??

Here is a little history about my endeavors.  I started around 25 yrs ago visiting adult books stores and watching those HOM loops. I would go to the store with a pocket full of quarters and hope for new movies. I remember those boxes being cut up hanging on the booth doors and I couldn't wait to see what was new.  Eventually I started buying a few of these loops when I could find them.

Then the video tape came out and renting a VHS was great. Wow the quality and ease. I remember the day I came across my first Tao production in bright color boxes. I remember getting a title called Hooked Up Hooker and Bitch Busters. When I finally could afford 2 VCRs it was fun to dub myself a copy and start a little collection. Of course I had to hide the collection at the time so it couldn't get too big.

At twenty years of age my extra money was used to rent videos of all ratings.   I remember going to the video stores and renting movies which included a few horror movies and few comedies and some action movies. Also a few pornos but there wasn't a lot of bdsm movies around then.

Got into the video business in the late 80's and this was bliss for me. I could go home with bunches of movies and all different types. I met a few people who were older then me who had collections and even started going to New York City 4 to 5  times a year and we bought what we could and what looked to be different in nature. I started getting into Euro movies then because they were just a hell of a lot more kinky. So I collected all sorts of movies then bondage, S&m, fisting you name I tried to collect it. It was pretty nice pooling resources and trying to find offbeat movies.

Here is the strange thing that started to happen as I was exposed to more movies and more kink was my taste started to get more and more narrow. Straight porn was ok but I wouldn't go out of my way to see it. Then the same thing happened to kinky movies and even bondage movies. So as I aged I narrowed down my interest.

When I was 19 just seeing a rope on the cover got me going a bit.  Now 20 years later I get my new ZFX  and I probably wont watch it for 6 months. lol I still love collecting movies but I think I love collecting them as much as I do watching them. I try and build my collection weekly and search for new stuff all the time. searching and getting them in is 3/4 of the fun. I plan to sit down later in life and enjoy the fruits of my labor when things get less hectic.

So basically my collection consist of many bdsm movies. A lot of Japanese bdsm, I also like gang bang as far as straight stuff along with bukkake tapes and some kinky Euros Some of the newer straight porn is pretty good also. I like the ggg tapes as well as some of the Jm productions and slap happys and meatholes has released at least one movie and these aren't bad as I like the humiliation aspect of bdsm. That might be my favorite part.

I have also met some friends on the net with the same interest and we scour the web and see what sites would be worth to join and what movies to buy. I would be really interested in hearing about everybody else and that includes the ladies!!!  Keep the forum going. 

Jazzart thanks for the compliment I guess when you have seen as much as me you learn to separate what you like and dont like. My other friend might go thru 100 movies before he finds 3 he really likes. I dont think I will get that selective. I hope not anyway!!  lol

From a personal aspect, it was a tough decision whether to do bondage sex for money at all for the simple reason that it is no longer just for fun. I enjoy making the videos and the photos, but it is not the same as having personal bondage sex when your partner has to keep jumping up and checking the camera to make sure it was framed okay, moving the camera, etc., etc. You have to worry about whether "they can see anything" instead of whether you are having any fun!

Actually, I am getting more and more convinced to hire a cameraman simply because of how difficult and time consuming it is for us to make the bondage sex photos and mpegs. I think Private Bondage does only bondage sex photos and I don't know how they do it! I don't know how often they update or anything, though.

Ralphus, thanks for inviting me to post anytime. I appreciate that!

Natasha

Mr. Retailer: I think my experience is the exact opposite of yours.

During the video years, it was strictly vanilla sex movies for me. Bondage movies are illegal in Canada and didn't really start to make an appearance until DVD arrived on the scene. In fact, it was fairly common in the early days of DVD to find adult video stores in my area that had bondage DVDs but nothing on video. Naturally, this provided a strong incentive to get a DVD player (I actually bought my first DVD player well before DVDs became common in North America).

Even then, there wasn't much selection, so I tended to watch what was available. Some Bruce Seven movies, some Bon-Vue, some of the HOM classics, and some others whose names escape me. For a while, the best I could find was usually Bon-Vue. I particularly liked some of the movies with Kelli Thomas (I particularly recommend Knife Point 2). The Bon-Vue release, Captured Cop Trilogy, also has some strong scenes of bondage and humiliation.

Last year, I stumbled across a copy of South of the Border 5. Naturally, I liked it, and I was particularly intrigued by some of the opening highlights from previous SOB movies. Shortly after, I purchased South of the Border 4, and the rest was history. As I tried to learn more about ZFX and Lisa Kinkaid, I eventually came across this web site.

I like to collect adult DVDs -- mostly bondage but some vanilla, as well. However, I don't aim to have a large collection. Instead, I try to keep my collection narrowed down to a few favorites: some ZFX movies, a couple of Japanese (which I recently reviewed), and a home-made compilation of favourite vanilla scenes.

What's my movie collection like?
Well, as one might guess, it's pretty expansive. A lot of Japanese bondage vids (hundreds of those) some ZFX, Dan Hawke, Forbidden, Slave Labor, a few Eyewitness hanging vids, some Bindher, WAVE, classic 70s Golden Age stuff, other foreign titles and lots and lots of mainstream movies I bought for certain bondage or rape scenes. But despite having all those movies, I seldom ever watch any of them. They were mostly all condensed down to the hundred or so compilation videos that I've made, that are highlights of my favorite scenes put together in each 2 hour video. So if I want to check out something good, I have over 200 hours of solid entertainment to watch, with no boring stuff to fast-forward through. Everything on these tapes is stuff that rings my bell.

How often do I try to add to it?
I'm funny about that. I'll spend days shopping online, then I tend to order mass quantities at one time, dozens of movies from several sources. And then once I receive them, I often let them accumulate for weeks, months, even years without even watching them. I've got some Japanese vids, Dan Hawke DVDs...stuff that I know is primo...and I've never even attempted to watch them, even though I've probably had them close to 2 years. Every now and then when the mood hits me, I'll pull something new out and take a look. But I honestly don't watch fetish material that often. I have a huge backload of stuff that I haven't edited yet, and I never seem to have time to sit back and work on it. At times, it can be overwhelming.

When and how did I get started?
I started in the mid-80s, so I've been collecting and editing my own compilation tapes for about 20 years now. I got access to VCRs (and later editing decks, which I still use now) around that time and worked in video stores for 11 years. At one time, my job entitled me to have access to the inventory of over 100 stores (I was quality control manager), so I was able to check out all kinds of mainstream and adult tapes for free. That was how I got started making the tapes.

How much money do I spend and how much am I willing to spend?
I've actually spent $125 for one tape (too much, I know, but it was damned good), and I'll spend up to $60 to $70 for something I feel may be worthwhile. A lot of the fetish material out there is overpriced, and I'll often hold off unless I hear a review or see stills or get some feedback from someone else, which is why this forum (and especially the reviews sections) can be a valuable source of information for fans of material like this.

Let's hear from more of you on this subject; I'm surprised I'm only the second one to answer so far.

Although I have been a gimper since childhood (as we have discussed before - it has to be hard-wired) as evidenced by having way too much interest in Emma Peel being tied and tormented in the Avengers, it was not until my late 30's that I bit the bullet and checked out some adult bondage films from a local adult video store. I was oh so pleased that you could get whole movies with different levels of nakedness devoted to gimp.

After a few years of renting a few bondage flicks a year, I saw two ZFX films (oddly I found them in the back room section of a regular rather than adult Video Store). I watched Robopimp and Forced Entry. The ZFX touch really did it for me -- while I enjoyed regular bondage flicks I was totally blown away by the mixture of bondage and sexual acts whether between people or objects in these movies. The simulation was certainly done well enough as to allow one to suspend overly critical judgement and accept the fantasy.

At present, I usually find myself buying 3-5 movies per year and renting another half dozen or so. For awhile I got into some of the Japanation cartoon movies.

As always, it is so very interesting to hear from others on this board and learn about the wide variety of interests and habits that gimpers have.

I guess growing up in beautiful and seedy Amsterdam in The Netherlands, in  a place where Marijuana is legal and where Signs outside Nightclubs read in bold lettering in full view of the public :"REAL LIVE FUCKING", there was no way to avoid PORN and believe me if it's depravity you are after you will find it in this "little'  city by the Ij River. Even the Pinball Arcades had Porno booths in those days (I was in my Teens in the 70's), my first porno (in booth that smelled like a monkey's cage) was a loop starring John Holmes and Leslie Bovee and I've been hooked ever since.

I'd say my fascination with Bondage came through Horror and Sci-fi films  and the Ocassional lurid detective comic or Real Police featuring some tied-up babe., so in a way it was like discovering a new different sexual dimension (to the vanilla one). I migrated to Australia in the middle of the Video Boom and started collecting seriously, I even got a job in a Porno Shop (whilst studying at college) in Kings Cross Sydney's notoriously sleazy Redlight district and I ended up with a massive collection of 10,000 videos (all genres), I'd say a quarter of these fall into the specialized 'field', ie: Bondage, S&M, Latex and other fetishistic genres).

Although I can seem obsessive about collecting, (I collect anything actually), I really do enjoy my 'hobby', I am not compulsive like some other 'enthusiasts' and I won't pay extravagant sums for material, unfortunately not everyone is open minded about these things, we are living in very politically correct & culturally oppressive times so this Post is a social necessity,  like they say down here: "GOOD ON YA" so Good on Ya, Ralphus for the great work YOU DO !

Picked up "The Apartment" last night and gotta say it's another great performance from Lisa, who is by far my fave bondage actress. Not even a contest (and when you know someone who could be Lisa's twin, it helps to see some fantasy brought to life if you know what I mean)

Anywho, the out-takes on the DVD are great. I gotta say, there's something really cool about seeing how the vids are made and how Lisa maintains a cool sense of humor throughout. On the DVD, Lisa mentions the panties are kinda big to stuff in her mouth. Rick responds "Whose fault is that?" and Lisa gives a look like "I guess mine."

Another endearing performance from the great Lisa Kinkaid. Bravo.

Had to share.

Thees Van Kemp: Wow! 10,000 films, Das ist Incredible! that is what you call "DEAD-ICATION (Sorry I couldn't help that, I'm a Greatful Dead Fan).

Like Yourself, hey we were almost neighbours once, I was exposed to lots of PORN in GERMANY!, Europe is much more relaxed than America when it comes to matters "below the waist", Porn Stores are more like "New Age Stores" they even have women working in them unlike the adult stores I visited in the USA  during my travels in which every customer was "Tense" and looked uncomfortable as if they shouldn't be there in case their boss or their wife spots them coming out of the store; there's none of that over here!, so it is not unusual to see sexual paraphernalia displayed in the open in store windows.

I started collecting in my teens, mainly local bondage  mags and what  Germans call 'Krimi" - detective novels, Adult Comix like CHERIE AND VAMPIRELLA , domination videos and the usual Bondage mags which back in my days were exceptionally good, anything that dealt with the dark and forbidden side of sexuality  of interest, I guess I was following my Nietschzian instincts (for those who haven't heard or read of German Philosopher Frederich Nietszche aka the father of nihilism, worth a read or two, he was also The Door's Jim Morrison favorite author). I never felt guilty with my primitive instincts if that is what you called them, human sexuality is not a "Black and White" thing, there's many shades 'Grey' in between..so I have never really had any difficulty dealing with my "interest", it's who I am.

The other day I was watching some American TV on my Satellite, Dr Phil's program featuring people with Addiction problems from Eating Junk food to Video Games were featured, everyone was made to feel guilty about their compulsion, suddenly a man in the audience stands up and says: "Dr Phil, My wife tells me she is addicted to Dr Phil!...What can I do?; Dr Phil looks back at him in disbelief and purrs in that Texan drawl: "So?, What's the Problem??"    - That's how I feel about my "interest in the dark arts below the waist", I remember Country Singer Kinky Friendman saying once: "Find your Vice and let it kill you".

Rejoice in Your Uniqueness, Gimpers!!!

When sound videos came out, it was heaven part two. The disappointment was the lack of male doms. But the women, mama mia! Ashley Rene, Fawna, Kelly Nichols, Terri Driver, Dallas Sherry, luscious Nikki Dial, Star Chandler, Missy, Missy Warmer, Lana Woods, Michele Bauer, Chole,Caressa Savage, Isadora Rose, Sharon Kane, Porche Lynn, Lia Baren, Darian Haze, Ariele Cole, Brittany Andrews, Kim Wilde and my all time favorite Alex Jordan. I was saddened that she committed suicide a few years ago. And of course let's not forget Renee Baker and Sharon Montgomery.

Despite the obvious, I always thought I was the only pervert on the planet, boy was I ever wrong and this forum proves it.

When ZFX came out, they were the ultimate. Finally, some male doms. I love whipping scenes, suspension and the wonderful spreadeagle position. Welts are wonderful, blood and gor is not. That's why I do like some of the material on Paingate. I have quite a collection, so I made my own tapes. I also make tapes that are dubbed with either Jazz or Classical music, which seems to go so well with whipping scenes. Bethoven and Tchaikovsky are excellent choices. Miles Davis, "Bitches Brew" is great with ZFX.

I take all the favorite whipping scenes and make a collection of tapes. So the choice is there, with or without the music, depending on need and mood.

Now, I can afford to be very selective. The only reason I've bought new material is the influence of the Gimpers. I truly value your opinions. I'm intruqued with Nu West, but they are way too pricey.

Someday I would like to dispose of my collection, but don't know quite how to do it legally and where, EBAY?

It's been quite a ride. I'm thinking in the future maybe some Interactive DVD's and perhaps Virtual Reality? Now that would be something!

Not saying all ZFX fans are potential kidnappers and rapists; in fact, I don't think anyone here would willingly harm an innocent women in real life. But speaking strictly for myself, the fantasy is exciting to me, as I'm sure it is to millions of others. And a small percentage of them read and contribute to this board.

I'll tell you one thing, though. Even though I'm fairly open about sharing my opinions now, when I was growing up, I really thought there must have been something wrong with me. What kind of person gets turned on seeing women being tied up and having bad things done to them?

Years ago, I remember telling this to a close friend of mine, a guy who, incidentally, is NOT into bondage himself, but who ran a comic book/fantasy shop, that also carried adult books and videos. He said if there's something wrong with me, then there's something wrong with most of his customers, too, since anything with bondage in it was a top seller for him. That kind of really reassured me that such fantasies are normal.

I look at it this way: If there wasn't a niche for material like this, nobody would be producing it and no one would be buying it. The fact you can go on Google and type in "bondage" and get 5,290,000 results tells me we're clearly not alone.

Does anyone else relate? Did any of you have the same doubts about yourselves growing up, feeling like a freak only to discover later that there were others who shared the same thoughts?

Speak up, guys. That's why we're here, and why this forum is great.

That said, I've done some introspection (is that even a word?) on myself and came up with this. When I was young, some aspects of my childhood were pretty shitty (non-sexual) and beyond my control. I think this lack of control left an imprint on my young mind. I wanted to be *IN* control. Enter the perfectly drawn damsel in distress female form from comicbooks on my adalesent mind. I think that got the ball rolling. Then finding unbeleivably great bondage artwork on the covers of those Greenleaf paperback books and THEN to read the hardcore rape stories in the books themselves.......... Hook, line and sinker. I was GIMP'd!

If anyone has a collection of those paperbacks and wants to increase it all you have to do is email me. I belong to a Google group that is *rocking* with Greenleaf trades.

So do I feel bad about enjoying this shit? I'm starting to wonder these days. There's a certain thrill enjoying something secret and taboo. Looking back I find it amusing that as the years go by I get more and more jaded. I need something more outrageous as the years go by. Now I'm a intellegent level headed guy that understands the difference from reality and fantasy but I wonder though, after reading about little girls that are brutalized and murdered like the recent case in Florida, I'm not really enjoying the fact that a sick fuck like that and I enjoy the same type of fantasy. From someone looking in from the outside we must all look like John Couey. And before you all jump up on your self richeous horses and proclaim that *YOU* would never consider doing something like that, that wasn't my point. We're in the same ballpark with him. My mother, my Grandmother would run away from content like this. I don't want my own children exposed to this type of content ever.

So why am *I* here enjoying ZFX content and more? I'm beginning to look at it like I'm shopping at a store that has several John Coueys in the checkout line with me. There's a store down the street that sells model airplanes. You might say "But there might be a sicko there too" but it's MUCH more unlikely. Just my two cents. Hail

Thanks so much for coming to post. It's awesome to hear your perspective on the entertainment you provide us. I certainly will be keeping a lookout for your future endeavors. I'd be fine with your single camera setups if there were a little more plot and on screen tying.

I don't need violent force. Your acting conveys just plenty, and I think a little bit of cheesy melodramatic dialogue (like "Don't do this, please don't tie me up, oh no, don't touch my breasts") would complete the package.

If you're ever looking for ideas for new scenarios, please let us know. I think we all have tried the custom route and been unable to find reliable people to make professional quality fantasies. I think any of mine would look perfect in your setup.

Thanks again.

Polite society may think it's "sick" for people to get off on the scenes that we GIMPers like, but I'm not sure we're as far out in the extreme as you suggest.

There is plenty of domination and degradation in vanilla porn. Think of the gangbang movies, or scenes where the guy is pulling a woman's hair while they fuck. What about the bukkake movies? The bukkakes are consensual, but I think part of the erotic appeal of bukkakes is the total degradation of the woman.

I believe the stuff we like is part of a continuum, rather than beyond the fringe. People get turned on by all kinds of things (as Jerry Springer's guests know all too well). The difference is some fantasies are more acceptable than others.

Furthermore, I am quite happy to jump on my self-righteous horse and state that there's plenty of distance between me and some bastard like John Couey. It's one thing to enjoy fictional rape scenes involving adults. Perhaps we can even sympathize with people who enjoy FICTIONAL rape scenes involving minors.

But having urges that involve actual children is completely different. Those people should seek treatment, and voluntarily have themselves locked up if necessary. They get no sympathy from me.

Let's be honest -- what we enjoy are "sexualized" scenes of adult rape and brutality, not true-to-life depictions. For many of us, any rape scene that looked "too real" in its violence would be a turn-off. We want to see a woman being forced to have sex against her will, but aren't necessarily keen on the brutality of the real thing. I'm not keen on it, in any event.

I think it's comparable to murder. It might look cool in a Dirty Harry movie when the cop blasts people away, but that doesn't mean we want to see real-life shootings.

OK. I'll hop off the self-righteous horse now.

Let's remember these fantasies we wrap ourselves in are just that Fantasies, yet at the same time these are also 'depictions of reality' acted out by real flesh, bone and blood people, if these were comics, cartoons or anime would we feel less guilty just because they are not real?

I love watching horror films, particularly ones in which stupid, self-centered, irritating teen-agers get slaughtered in the most hideous ways, I'll spare Jessica Biel though!! (what I call 'Elloi' people, you know what I am talking about if you seen the Film THE TIME MACHINE with Rod Taylor made in 1964). Would I go out and senselessly slaughter mindless teenagers for the heck of it? No, inconceivable!, not at all, , after all I'm a Buddhist, contrary to my philosophy, there you go! (Wouldn't that make Dr 'Feelgood' PHIL feel perplexed?: a Bondage Buddhist!?#$#%.

I remember some years or decades ago when KISS (the rock band) was at the height of their popularity, Gene Simmons remarked: "Some times you feel like punching the lights out of some guy, but you can't!, Sometimes you feel like getting laid, but you can't!, that's why WE exist.

Same thing for ZFX or any imaginary fantasy oriented pursuit, whether it's listening to SLAYER, watching a Jenna Jameson Porno or playing Dungeons and Dragons., it's an escape valve from catatonic monotony of a routinary reality.

Guys read Derrida or Barthes,( French philosophers) you'll be better off for it!

Good Karma and may the Buddha sweeten up your Chillie Sauce.

You like what you like! If you don't like liver, then it doesn't matter how I fix it, you won't like it, if you do...

Plenty of rapists & other miscreants never saw a BDSM video. I have been selling porn (including ZFX) for over 15 years. I can actually say that over this time, I have only heard of two of my customers ever committing a "sex crime". I would say that most "perverts" (self included) that have a release for their fantasies commit less in the way of "sex crimes".

On another note, I will be doing a shoot of Blue (former model coming back for more. It will be a "tit torture" (her words) session, so if you guys have any requests, let me know ASAP (shoot is on Thursday).

And on a final note, I am selling VCD's of the Ghostgirl 2 shoot, you can see samples of this at the orcahouse group. The VCD is 50 minutes long (uncut & unedited), will play on most DVD player and on computers. Only $5 (inc postage). Order before the end of the month & I'll throw in the VCD of Ghostgirl 1 (23min).

I think a big thing that helps is meeting other people in person with similar interests, and finding out that they're also relatively normal (whatever that might mean). For me, the turning point was meeting women with the same interests, especially when they didn't fit the cliche of 'abused women turning to masochism' that is always thrown up. Now, I'm much more comfortable with what I am and what I like.

Interestingly, since that happened, I've been more relaxed about watching outrageous horror movies that might have some GIMP-type content. Before, I always thought that if I watched them with others, I'd give away the fact that I was a pervert somehow. Now I just don't care.

Other than that....bring on the bound wenches and let the games begin.....Jailer

But when I see ZFX's High Strung, for example, it excites me because *I'm* the guy that fondling those enormous beautiful breasts and raping her up the ass. Same with all the ZFX videos and Brutal Violence videos and so on and so on. Maybe it's just a line that I've made up in my own head but I see a difference. I'm just beginning to feel that I'm starting to stink as bad as a real rapist. I'm talking *moral* stink.

I'm not trying to make a point or change someone's mind I just wanted to share my thoughts on the question that was asked.

It's probably just a phase I'm in though. I'm sure I'll be faking some Plamate decapitations soon. LOL!

Anyway, to me it seems that I was born with this certain fetish in my genes or whatever, rather than having it fester in my mind over the years from viewing scenes like this over and over in movies, comics, detective mags etc. etc., although I do admit that the urge to view stronger material and images did grow over time. Probably like most of us on this site, I did wonder if something was wrong with me, and if I was the only one with these particular peccadilloes occupying my mind until the obvious light bulb went off in my mind that artist, various companies and others were not producing this material solely for my own personal gratification.

When I started dating and I'm not very proud of this, when I wanted to break off with a girl that I was not very fond of, I would tell her about my thoughts and fetishes and deliberately try to make them sound dark and bizarre with the hope that this would scare her off. With only a couple of exceptions this ploy backfired on me every time, all of the other girls told me of their similar fantasies and/or how exciting this sounded. Of course, with girls that I was into, I presented my fantasies in a much different light.

I have never placed myself in the same category with the infamous sex offenders that have raped and murdered for I have never had even the slightest urge to bring my fantasies to reality, in fact, it repulses me to hear and read about these atrocities and my heart goes out to the victim's families. I, however do not look down on anyone who may get off some from reading about these real life rape and torture stories, it is my belief that ones worth in this life should be based solely on their actions and not what fantasies and thoughts are contained inside of them.

Everyone on this site is aware of the bdsm movies and materials that come out of Japan, when I visited Japan, it was not uncommon to see people reading such material while riding the subway, and in no way trying to hide it. In Japan, actual, real life rape is practically non existent. This should tell us something about how little the affect this material has on sane and responsible people to act out on their fantasies.       

My example is based on watching the movie Irreversible. As many of us would know, the movie's key scene is one where Monica Bellucci (who is really hot) gets anally raped in a subway tunnel. It's pretty graphic, but it has the ability to be arousing. Many of us probably like that scene.

However, the anal rape is followed by a scene where the rapist beats the living shit out of Monica. And it's pretty believable. If you get aroused by that scene, well, maybe you should be feeling guilty.

I think that's where I would draw the line. Like I mentioned yesterday, many of the rape scenes we enjoy are kind of romanticized -- heavy on the sexual control, light on actual violence (if there's any violence at all, and usually there isn't).

I believe you can say the same thing about the whippings and torture scenes. If they were truly graphic -- sort of like Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ -- I don't think they'd be erotic. I think they'd be gross.

That's about as far as I can take this line of thinking until I get a chance to read some nihilists and other philosophers.

But when I came across a story about BDSM, I perked right up, and have been perking always to whenever I come across it.

About being ashamed, I never have been, ever. Sex is a biological function and nothing to be ashamed about. I think a lot of our problems as a country derive from such unwarranted shame, the weird Puritan schizophrenia between condemning sex on the one hand and being ashamed to be titillated by it on the other hand. You see this contradictory stuff all the time everywhere. The other day, conservative commentator the unfunny Dennis Miller told about a study where kids taught to deploy abstinence instead take up unsafe sex alternatives like anal sex. He and his conservative colleagues were giggling like schoolgirls and savoring the idea. No offense to anyone here, but I find this kind of two-faced approach really pathetic and representative of a societally-imposed unhealthy attitude about sex.

Sex (all sex) is good. BDSM is great. It's normal, it's wonderful. It's something to be proud of, not ashamed of.

zee-ef-ex

YES, I have a request - rubberband tit bondage where you put a lot around the base of the tits to get them nice and round and prominent, and then add more around the tits further up toward the nipples, so they end up looking like bloated purple sausages.

Also, if it's possible, I have never seen tied tits submerged in ice-water - I think that would be an intense image.

The timing could not have been worse, either, since we had a good thread going, and I had just launched a mass invitation to several Yahoo groups the night before. We were on our way to a record day, hits-wise, when Dreambook unexpectedly pulled the plug, leaving several hundred newbies clicking onto our site for the first time, only to get a message saying basically that we were closed. And most newbies won't try again later; you don't get a second chance to make a first impression. Oh well, shit happens, I guess.

A Canadian: Yeah, I think you made an excellent point regarding Monica's rape scene in Irreversible, although I made the comment at the time that I didn't really even care for that scene because it was a bit too "real" for me, and of course the finale of the scene where he kicks the shit out of her was hard to watch. I'm not sure why I wasn't liking the scene beforehand, though, other than the fact that it was shot with a static camera for the whole 8 or 9 minutes (which was a huge contrast to the rest of the movie, BTW, because the camera was flying everywhere in every other scene). And it's odd, because I usually like realism in my rape scenes; the more real the better.

Does anyone else think a rape scene (or a torture scene) can be "too real" to be enjoyed? Does the fact that ZFX uses fake dicks a good thing or a bad thing, in your opinion? If someone like Lisa was really being raped onscreen, would that be better for you, or would it be too realistic to be enjoyed?

In terms of furthing the past discussion about gimp themes being normal vs. sick/perverted. I believe that the sense of wrongness only comes as a result of having to match our thoughts against what the larger society finds acceptable. Although I am forever facinated by the hypocracy of the whole issue. The perils of Pauline have always been considered wholesome entertainment. A clothed and tape/cleave gagged woman in peril in detective shows and any number of mainstream movies is wholesome entertainment. A girl with a ball gag and partially exposed breasts who is threatened with plastination is over the edge for most and sick/perversion for some. Rick's films are only acceptable (and beloved) by Gimpers. The lines seem pretty strange to me. It really does have to do with "issues" about seeing the depiction of forced sexual activity vs. only having it implied or diluted as in the socially acceptable versions.

Ah yes, The Apartment. I have now seen the DVD, and I agree with the positive comments already mentioned here. When I get time I'll try to post a longer review, but for now, let me just say I think it is Rick's best film. Nice work, Rick Masters. Definitely a winner.

zee-ef-ex

I have a buddy who likes those Amature websites. I always tell him the girls he looks at look like crap and he tells me that my ideal (Playboy and Penthouse types) are "untouchable". He likes to think that he actually has a chance with the woman he fantasies about. I, on the other hand, want freaking perfection. A woman who works out everyday, starves herself and has implants.

I don't want "realism" in my rape scene. I want good lighting, interesting outfits and good sets. Even an allyway scene should have these elements. Too many times I've seen realism ruin a potentionally good shoot. I think there're going for an artistic look or something. I don't even need to see penetration. If the woman and set meets my above criteria simulated rape sex works fine for me too. Speaking of sets is anyone else bored silly with the ZFX sets. Same fucking thing mostly. Too bad.

On the question of how "real" the movies should look, I would say this: I think it's important that the victim's inability to escape should look real. I hate scenes where it's obvious the woman could escape if she wanted to. I also think it's important that the victim's suffering should look real. As someone mentioned last week, one of Lisa's strengths is that she usually sells her scenes really well.

On the other hand, I wouldn't want any of the scenes of violence to look too real. I'm not into seeing people actually getting hurt, beyond the small amounts of pain associated with clothes pins and other objects.

As for the use of dildos in rape scenes, I would be happier if the penetration scenes were real. But I don't have a strong opinion on this one -- I can live with the dildos, as long as they don't look too fake (there was one in SOB 5 that was much too fake).

LOL! TYPOS! I hate when that happens.

Welcome to anyone who has clicked onto our site and actually gotten through; you're the lucky ones, it seems. We've been up and down at various times all day, and of course, we were knocked out continuously for over half a day Wednesday and Thursday, too.

I've contacted Dreambook; hopefully they'll get their problems fixed and we can start rolling again. This is quite frustrating, but it should be just temporary. Hang in there.

Finally I got through. Everytime I tried, I kept getting 404: Page Not Found. I thought it was gone for good. Glad things are back.

Hail, What do you mean by being bored with the ZFX sets? What's wrong with them? I think their sets are about the best around.

One thing I like is that ZFX doesn't use a bright manufactured dungeon set like in most bdsm movies. They look realistic enough that I can believe some lunatic found some dark warehouse and rigged up pulleys from the rafters to hang women up by their wrists. Reminds me of the classic HOM stuff from the 1970's. Or else you get home invasion settings that are set inside someone's home, like The Apartment. Either way is fine for me.

But if you want variety, tell Rick he can come over to my house to film his next movie. As long as Lisa comes with him :)

I remember the Canadian government subsidized some movie with Nina Hartley a few years back, which caused a bit of a stir when Ms. Hartley's background was ultimately publicized (the politicians who authorized the government funding for the film "claimed" they didn't know who Nina Hartley was).

The only stuff on these DVDs I was liking was the stuff where she was being threatened. Most of the rest was just...there. It's not that I mind bondage scenes where there's no nudity (and there was very little in these comps), but there has to be something more than just bondage, otherwise there's little to move me except to admire how good she may look tied up.

Not that I mind just bondage scenes, but bondage with nudity, bondage with rape, torture, even dangerous situations...so much better. It's like you can have your dish of vanilla ice cream...or you can have it with caramel sauce, hot fudge and whipped cream. Hmmm...which do I choose?

Even a lack of nudity doesn't bother me as long as there is threatening and danger. Sure, nudity is great, but in damsels in distress scenes, you don't have to see her tied to the railroad track naked :)

What do others think? Do you have to have nudity in order for it to be an arousing scene for you? Let's get some opinions.

Well, myself... I don't go for the mild stuff too much. I don't hate it, either, but it's just not quite my thing. If you like bondage, I feel, then you like it--why limit yourself to some really plain stuff because some of the other stuff is a little bit too extreme? Why settle for only 10% when you can have 100?  

Tied up women are ok, but unless there's some real nasty sense of danger or some kind of wicked harm that's going to befall the victim, then it doesn't really trip my trigger all that much. I'm much more into the whole idea of force and NC, and you just don't get much of a feeling for that with a lot of that other stuff. So normally I don't give it a lot of attention. Just my opinion.

As far as some video content "bothering" me ... I have yet to see a commercial video that has that effect. Most ARE boring. A few Hollywood videos have somewhat given me pause  to think. When I first saw "Terror Among Us" years ago, I was somewhat disturbed about the content, believe it or not, but I couldn't pinpoint exactly why. Other movies came along that had this effect on me, such as "Confessions of a Serial Killer," or the 1970s flick where two teenage girls are abducted by a biker gang and given to a serial rapist/murder.( I don't recall the name), to name a few. It finally dawned on me that I really enjoyed the "disturbed" feeling and now I even seek it out in videos, and photos. I'm not talking blood and guts, something I avoid at any cost. I think I just like a REALISTIC scene...something that could happen in REAL life.

In the case of the four bound and terrorized flight attendants or the teens in the biker flick or the face down, and sodomized girl in the "Confessions" movie, as well as the kidnapped girl being pulled out of the car trunk. These females are all experiencing "Real Life" situations. There is even a chance for escape only a few feet away but it closes at the last second. I think Rick and every other bondage video producer should examine some of these flicks and take note of them. Monster rapes are just great but they get old after a while. Give me the "kidnap" or "home invasion" scenario anytime.  Anyone else agree or am I just babbling??

Where are they now? Well, in the case of big-busted ZFX babe Victoria Vixxen, I know Rick posted here some years ago and said she got married and had a couple rugrats. And like I mentioned before, with those milkin' mammas she had, I'm sure they were well-fed.

I would guess that is probably the fate for most bondage film performers, and most likely for women in the porn industry in general. They work for a year or two (I think one year is about average), make their big bucks and retire forever from the biz, never to come back again. Most of these women are incredibly attractive, so it probably isn't hard for them to find a rich husband to marry and settle down with. And often times they use pseudonyms in place of their real names, so it would probably be hard to trace their whereabouts even if you had their real maiden names.

In the case of Pia Sands, she's one of the better-known bondage actresses, and her career is pretty easy to follow. After her bondage career, she later performed in real movies (usually shlock horror B pictures) under her real name, Michelle Bauer. According to the IMDB, she's still making movies now.

But she's one of the exceptions to the rule. Most of the girls simply disappear. I don't think even Rick knows whatever became of Chandra Sweet, or how to contact her. We can only hope her husband or boyfriend is tying her up on a regular basis, because that's just how it should be, damn it.

A few months ago, there was a thread where GIMPers were asked to list their favorite rape scenes in mainstream movies. At the time, there seemed to be strong support for a Sam Peckinpah movie, "Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia," from 1974. This movie has a rape scene that reportedly was quite controversial and, if I remember the comments on this site correctly, was entertaining to watch.

Anyway, it appears this movie was released last week on DVD. Haven't seen it yet, but I will share my thoughts once I do see it.

Annie

This board was launched into cyberspace by The Gimp. It all started when he and I got into an interesting back and forth conversation, via newsgroup posts, after I posted one of my ZFX reviews on the newsgroup alt.sadistic. He thought it would be a good idea to make an entire site devoted to the discussion of ZFX and other extreme bondage videos. A few days later, this site was born.

Since then, we've gone through a few moderators, added several new features, and been visited by some of the elite names in bondage entertainment...Rick Masters, Lisa Kinkaid, Dan Hawke, Gary Roberts, PD from Insex...the list goes on and on. Most recently, Natasha Flade stopped by and talked about her new bondage sex video.

But what really makes this site work is the contributions from YOU, the fans. We wouldn't have much of a site without our readers, the ones who post and add their opinions and make this site a fun place to visit. So congratulations to all of you perverts for 6 great years.

(I still get an error while trying to post. Or I did last night anyway)

Happy anniversary!

Regarding Helen's post-I'm in a relationship and she would be VERY unhappy to know I like this stuff. It's pretty standard stuff, her reaction. Most people think that guys that like these types of photos and videos are secretly desirous of living them. Me personally, I'm not. I really don't have any desire to hurt anyone (well, except when I'm, driving, ya know). But I do fantasize about some of these things, particularly the evil scientist stuff. Rick was really good at these types of vids, though he's more or less stopped production since 1999 or so. Still, no one has really risen to take his place, which leaves our little niche kind of...lonely, I suppose.

Peace,

Iago

zee-ef-ex

Ralphus and others have done a great blow-by-blow description of the latest ZFX flik "The Apartment" so I won't repeat it here. Instead, I'll talk about why I think this is Rick's best flik, by far.

First, let me get the negatives out of the way. They are very few, and minor, and I don't want their mention to detract from the thrust of my message. (1) The insertion mannequin (or whatever you call that plastic human-body analogue Rick uses to fake insertions) looks pretty fake. Nevertheless, it really wasn't bad enough to diminish my enjoyment. (2) During a simulated anal scene, there is a slight ring of blood around the anus, as Ralphus mentioned. Now, this doesn't gross me out, and heck, I know it can be realistic (I once had a girlfriend who enjoyed vigorous anal and once we went overboard and she bled a little), but it does zilch for me erotically. (3) The chair-tie scene with Lisa at the end loses a little momentum. It's a fine scene which would be well-appreciated in any movie, but maybe because Lisa was a little too relaxed and sitting ... or maybe because Rick filmed the movie linearly and everyone was losing steam by the end of the night, that scene sagged slightly in quality compared to the rest of the movie. For one thing, Lisa seemed too relaxed and the tension was lost. (funny to talk about a nude woman in bondage with clips on her nipples and nether regions as "too relaxed" isn't it? :-)) Also, the way her arms (bound behind her, behind the chair back) were not tied down TO the chair made it seem like she could have gotten loose.

Anyway, just wanted to get those really minor quibbles out of the way, because this is a GREAT flik, especially if you like psychological tension. During the Gimp Board's 7th year, by now long-time fellow Gimpers know I go for the psychological aspects of BDSM, the slow, steady buildup, the sexual tension, the menace, the ambiguous situations (e.g. "she's struggling, she's struggling ... she gives up"). If you like that kind of thing, this film is for you. And what a film.

At a technical level, I have no complaints. The film looks beautiful, sound is good, everything is nicely filmed. The outtakes show the perfectionism Rick and the actors were striving for. A lot of hard work (THANK YOU, GUYS!) but they achieved it.

Lisa and the male actor do yeoman's work. The chemistry is great between them. If there was an Academy Award for BDSM movies, this would win. This is the kind of movie which rises to the level of high art, which argues for there being an Academy Award for BDSM movies. Rick, at the very least you should enter it for an AVN award or something.

In some ways, the movie resembled a so-called "mainstream" porn flik. It is interesting to see this convergence, as those movies have gotten rougher, and as Rick in this movie got "softer," more "psychological" (sorry if the term is redundant, I don't know what else to call it.) One example - there were several scenes with Lisa on her knees being mouth-fucked by the villain. And, just like in vanilla porn, every so often Rick would cut away to the villain's face to show the viewer his reactions. NO! Viewers of mainstream porn HATE when directors do that. Just as you're getting excited watching the money shot, the director cuts to some sweaty guy's goofy throes of orgasm facial expression. What a turn off, with vanilla porn, it brings your sexual excitement crashing down. But here, in The Apartment, it works, interestingly BECAUSE the villain is using a fake prick to cum on Lisa's face. So when Rick cuts to his face, instead of some goofy expression which induces viewer erection-drooping, the villain is able to maintain a menacing. lecherous sneer, which increases the power of the scene a lot.

And when I say the movie is "softer" I don't mean that negatively. Yes, there is a little less bondage than in other Rick's flix, but there is still plenty, and some scenes are stellar. (As Ralphus mentioned, the closet scene was one of Rick's best ever). By "softer" I only mean that the menace level is enhanced, and doing so makes a more complete film and makes the bondage that much more meaningful.

The outtakes were a lot of fun, and showed how hard everyone worked to get the film right. It was interesting how the villain and Rick were laughing but Lisa was usually so serious. At first I thought she may have been tired or stressed, but as the outtakes went on it seemed more like she was just a very hard-working actress fully and completely in "the zone". It was funny how she'd be loosely bent over the couch and Rick would say "action" and how heartily she LEAPT into the scene each time. Maybe I'm reading too much into it -- maybe she just wanted to finish the hell up and get paid and go home -- but the impression I was left with was deadly seriousness on her part to give a good performance. Her acting was the acting of a tigress.

All of the psychological elements of the film were intense. Did she dream all of this, or did any of it really happen? Or, was the whole thing HIS dream? I've got to tell you guys, if you like not just basic BDSM but also GOOD movies, then buy this film. This is the first porn film in many, many years where I watched every instant of it from start to finish without fast forwarding through a single moment -- that is how good it was. The only time I felt the least bit tempted to fast forward was the last scene, the chair scene, where my attention span drifted just slightly. But that was a small moment out of a large film, whose scenes otherwise all worked perfectly. Even the whipping scene "worked" in a way in which I don't usually think it will in one of Rick's flix. It was the perfect length, nicely AOH (arms over head), and very well-acted and directed, very realistic and erotic. It's funny, but most of Rick's flix, I form a first impression the first time I watch them and then the more I watch them the more I notice over time, and they all seem to grow on me. I usually like them better over time, I can't remember any where I liked them less. This one, I liked so much I can only imagine I will like it more and more the more I watch it.

This is the perfect ZFX film, with a pacing and tension on a par with any good Hollywood thriller. The fact that it is BDSM is all bonus.

Oh, and by the way, Lisa looked AWESOME in this film. She has a body type which is not usually my preference (I like really tall and thin girls). But she looked phenomenal in this film. FWIW, I liked the pigtails, I thought they looked cute. And her body was smoking hot. After this film, I am now thoroughly convinced that Rick's house in Florida sits directly on top of that Fountain of Youth that the Spanish explorers were searching for in Florida. Somehow, he discovered the motherlode. How else is it that the girls in his films just get better and better looking? (Okay, I would also buy an argument if anyone wanted to offer one that appearing in BDSM films does a lot for their egos and boosts their self-esteem in some way and causes them to pay greater attention to their appearance, hah hah). But anyway, after this film, all I can say is, MORE LISA, MORE LISA, MORE LISA!

Did I mention I liked this film? :)

zee-ef-ex

You are a STAND-Up Guy!!

Gabriela Atar and Helen: Good to see some new faces here, especially female ones. With both of you here, I think I count...3. Girls, say hi to Annie.

We occasionally get ladies that stop by, but not too many of them speak up. Maybe they're afraid of being in here with us sex-crazed bondage freaks. Just because the last few girls to stop by ended up with their clothes ripped off and tied to the bed we keep in the back room doesn't necessarily mean that will happen to any of you.

C'mon, be a GIMPer. It's an adventure. We'll be good. Just make sure you don't carry pepper spray. We hate that.

In answer to Helen's question, I'm not married or in a relationship right now. I think I would be hesitant to bring up my dark desires on a first date, but it's not something I would want to keep hidden for long if I'm attracted to the girl. Who knows, she might turn out to be into it herself. And if she's not, it might be hard to continue leading a double life for long anyhow. Any relationship that starts off with big secrets is doomed to fail anyway.

zee-ef-ex: Thanks for the long, detailed review of The Apartment. I know that had to have taken long to write and we appreciate your effort. Added to the Reviews By GIMP Readers section at my Homepage URL above.

I have always wanted to see this beauty in a home invasion / rape sistuation. I mean this in all due respect to Lorelei but, I think that if any model could pull this off realistically, she could. My question is ....is her site worth it. Is this kind of picturial done well. To make a long story short.... Will I get my monies worth?? Thanks in advance.

I agree about Lorelei. I don't think you said anything controversial so don't sweat it. Asd far as your question goes, I have never joined the forced fantasy site, but I have been a member of Bedroom Bondage for awhile. This site if definitely worth it in my opinion. The photos are all high def. and the models are quite attractive. Lorelei is one woman who enjoys what she does for a living and it shows when she is on either side of the ropes. I too have thought about signing up for forced fantasies. I just wish there was somewhere to view a little more of the photos.

Happy 6th Aniversary GIMP!!! ... and thanx Ralphus

Re: inquisitionlive.com: ... I decided to give them a try since they now have secure signup. The medieval fantasy content is very nice ... gritty, realistic, nice models and props ... the majority of the pictures are good screen shots from their videos. They are adding more and more hi-res photos to compliment the screen shots. The major complaint that I have with them is their movies are all a separate charge and not included with the monthly subscription. They do have selected clips and trailers and the photosets chronicle the video content to wet your appetite. Recommended if you like old style fantasy content.

Re: Helens question ... I have been collecting/interested since the heyday of early 1980s (even discovered Ricks earliest stuff released through Bizarre Video way before ZFX was formed) ... and am happily married. My wife lets me pursue my interests and partakes in the lighter side of bd/tickling/bottom/top ... she is not interested in the heavier side. Helen, you can always start off with an introduction to the lighter side and see where it goes from there.

:O)

To me its just a harmless fantasy...maybe I'm messed up in the head. Whatever... but I do know that in real life, I'd never hurt a woman. In fact, I love women. they're so damned hot...

I love bittersweet persuasion because she's in it.

Helen, in response to your question. I have been married for ten years. I had not been happy with my marital sex life for quite some time. This side of me had always been well hidden. I mostly read about the subject, as books are easy for me to hide or dispose of since I have a vast library. After taking a lover, who opened up the subject for me, I decided it was time to stop hiding. If I wanted a good healthy sex life with my husband he needed to know what turned me on.

My husband, who I affectionately refer to as Mr. Vanilla ( I know not very original, but it fits him to a T), does not approve of the fact that bondage, rape, torture, humiliation, and submission all turn me on. He pretty much leaves me alone with the subject though. He refuses to watch the vids, or look at the pics and he nearly choked when I actually brought a ball gag and nipple clamps home, but he does know that if he lets me get my fix, he will be rewarded in the end. It bugs me a bit that I am sitting here with “Forced Entry” and “The Apartment” to watch and will be doing it on my own, but then again, why watch them with someone who won’t appreciate them?

(Pauses, gauging the audience for belief. Detects none.)

Hmf. Tough crowd.

So, Is The Apartment the only project on the table from Rick lately, or are there any more groovy sc-fi/superhero/psychological torment movies on the horizon for us?

I feel sorry for you. Your husband is supposed to "give his self to you," as you are to "give yourself to him" Its even in the Bible. People don't understand, that this is why you get married. Its not about a job, possessions, or even children. Its to be with one another. The Bible says, what he is doing to you, is wrong. You and he are life "partners" in all things.

I am a God fearing man. My only bad thing, is that I haven't met a woman yet to be a life partner for me as well as her. so, I often go to the bondage site, esp the ones with chatting or dating, so that I may meet her someday. If its allowed, I will post myself on here and if any woman wants to e-mail me, its okay by me. Hey, it worked for some where I live. He posted his on the classified, he had tons of ladies calling him. I hope the forum will let me do this. I pride myself in beautiful rope bondage that feels good but doesn't hurt!! I always have a standing challenge to any female, that she can't get loose in what I tie your in.

This forum is devoted to discussion of extreme bondage video, namely ZFX Productions, emphasizing the fantasy aspects of extreme bondage.

I let your post stay because you were responding to Annie's post, but you're venturing a bit off-topic when you start advertising yourself to any potential ladies who might read this board. And at least 2 of the 3 women have stated they were already married, so your odds of finding a partner here are pretty sparse, anyway :)

Does any one know the names of the models who were in the Bondage Classic's movies, especially BC 7 and BC 3?

2nd,

I've got an opinion poll to all of you: Which TV show has the best bondage scene?

Which bondage movies are the best of all time? You can add, whose the best moaner, whose the best squirmer, who looks best in "various poses" like a hogtie, chair tie, who 'hops the best" who looks the best in various gags and so forth. Post here or e-mail it to me ACaddell@webtv.net

A sense of humor helps a lot. If a guy can joke about this stuff, I feel more comfortable. If a guy takes it too seriously, watch out! That's why I like the newer ZFX tapes with the outtakes. The outtakes show that there are some light moments when these films are being made. And they show that Rick doesn't take himself too seriously.

See ya when I get back, mates!

Lorelei's photo-sets at her force fantasies site are well worth the admission fee, especially if you are a fan. I have joined on two separate occasions in the past, but never kept the subscription going for long because she only updates once a month, and after two months I found I had expended the content (no pun intended). So don't think of it as a long-term investment. Lorelei's sets are the best there, she is absolutely luscious in all of them, and you know where the money is going. You absolutely will not regret it.