My wife also is into bondage though we are not into the rough whipping type stuff. She likes the fantasy break in rape, get caught by some evil man or monster type thing. Its hard for us to enjoy this past time when you have teenage kids in the house.

We also like to watch bondage movies together though my collection is not very big. I do believe I have about 8 or 9 of Ricks movies. From the pics Ive seen of the Apartment and the reviews, it looks like this will be one to get.

Anyways love this Forum and I hope its around for many more years to come.

Enjoy Life Go Camping

Rich

Thank you very much for the mini-review. It is not easy to find reviews of this sort of site to begin with. It's very difficult to find site reviews that are meaningful to consumers like us.

Your statement, "Lorelei's photo-sets at her force fantasies site are well worth the admission fee, especially if you are a fan...," etc., says it all.

Thanks again.

Happy 6th to the Gimpsite! Thanks be to Ralphus for his efforts in moderating the site.

Reviews, Etc.: Its great to read viewer comments, I appreciate those that take the time to write reviews and of course all those that watch the movies and are willing to offer feedback.

NewStuff: Probably looking at another year for the next release, it will probably be a piece with Kelly Mckay in a robbery-hostage situation, no title yet, thats about all I can tell you except a small clipet of this footage appears in a web promo on some newer titles. By the end of 2006, ZFX should be on a more regular release schedule, provided of course the government doesnt pull the wings off the adult industry again and the world has not self destructed.

Natasha Flade: Always a pleasure to have a classy lady thats into bondage post here. I looked at the clip for Bondage Sex and I thought it looked very appealing.

Iago: Good to see ya post! I DO have plans of doing more Sci Fi stuff so dont despair =)

Rick

I had a girlfriend one time who was really skittish about bondage and BDSM. "Not too tight" "Ow, that hurts" "I don't want to be tied up too long" "I'm not sure I want to do this" "What do you get out of this, anyway?" "What's the point?"

So one time I had her tied up for what seemed to me like a long time and we both had achieved some mutual got-our-rocks-off pleasure. Not wanting her to be uncomfortable, I started untieing her.

"Hey!" "What are you doing?" "You ruined it" "I was feeling so sexy" "Why are you untieing me?" "How could you ruin the fantasy like that?"

Just had to laugh. That's one of the best things about BDSM is the gut-tickling laughter it often induces when you each realize how silly it all is. I agree, the outtakes are good reminders of good times like those.

zee-ef-ex

This was a Canadian-German co-production that was later made into a TV series. However, the star in the clips, Eva Habermann, was replaced by a different actress in the series because the producers didn't think Eva could act (What were they thinking? Who cares if she could act?) For anyone who cares, the pictures are from the third episode in the original mini-series.

On the thread about relationships, I'm not currently in a relationship but I think Helen raised some important questions. Personally, I would wait quite some time before I told any woman I was seeing about this site. Actually, I'm not certain I would ever mention it.

A Canadian: thanks for the link of caps from Lexx. Ah, Eva Habermann...what a doll baby. I have that scene in my private collection. It was too bad that she was the only one on the show not to return, but the good thing is that she was replaced by Smokin' Babe Xenia Seeberg, and she ended up tied up in quite a few scenes of her own. I looked for some vidcaps but couldn't find any, unfortunately.

Rick: Good to see you posting on the board again. Thanks for the update on what's going on in the world of ZFX. Nothing more new this year? I'm disappointed, but not really surprised, since I didn't really expect another movie in 2005. It is good news, however, that you anticipate ZFX getting back to a regular release schedule in the near future. Hopefully that means the rest of your backlogged inventory will eventually make its way to DVD by then and we'll be seeing new stuff being released a lot quicker.

I like the idea of the upcoming Kelly McKay movie...a robbery/hostage theme. In 150 movies, I don't think you've ever used that concept, which is really hard to believe. That's a theme that's rife with possibilities. Say that guys break into a bank or a store and take the teller hostage. They're desperate and figure they have nothing to lose...so they take turns raping and torturing their pretty captive. Why not? They'll wind up dead or in jail anyway, so why not have some fun? Of course, I'm speculating on the plot, but I'd like to see that filmed. Something to look forward to next year, I suppose.

BTW, I'm pretty sure the still you sent me along with the Bitter Sweet Persuasion pics is from that upcoming movie. To whet everyone's appetite, here it is again:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ralphus44/ZFXROB1asm.jpg

There is no actual penetrtion at ForceFantasies, it is all simulated. But the models are lovely, lorelei being foremost among them. It's worth a quick look.

I would like to take an opinion vote from all of you here on which mainstream TV, or films have the best gimp's in it.

1) Which has the best bondage?
2) Which has the best squirming?
3) Which has the best "hopping to try to get away"
4) Which has the best suspension bondage?
5) Which has the moaning yelling, or screaming through the gag?
6) Which has the best gag?

So far, the kinkiest to me was The Perils of Gwendolyn, but Hellraiser III has some awesome squirming in it. I haven't seen any hopping yet. The suspension bondage was The Hitcher.

Allen

Of course, you can't believe everything you read. At the time, Lexx was being played up as a great Canadian success story. It's possible they didn't want to break the news in Canada that the show's lead actress had found a better job.

CD Universe carries several from the series, many still on VHS but still quite a few on DVD, at the link here.

Hellraiser 3...that's on old one. Good AOL bondage scene for Terry Farrell. Reminds me a bit of ZFX's sci-fi scenes where the victim gets bound by some mysterious force. Except they didn't go quite as far as ZFX. No plant rape here :) Good mainstream scene, I have it in my private collection. Here's some caps from it:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/pyromania44/hell12.jpg

mr.?: Great idea for the cult film book on ZFX, but I doubt it will ever happen. I know there have been books written about Nikkatsu and other Japanese bondage studios, but I don't think we'll ever see anything written about ZFX. Rick tends to be very private about what he does. I remember 5 years ago on this board, there was an actual news reporter who posted here several times trying to get Rick to agree to an interview for an article he was writing. Rick said he wasn't interested.

He's also very protective of anyone posting any images from his movies, this board and the works of Hanks Hobbs excluded.

You've gotta remember that even though the Rob Black case gave some breathing room to porn, ZFX and others are not out of the woods as far as being immune to prosecution on obscenity charges. Especially with today's political climate, I think Rick just prefers to lay low and do his work, and hope nobody notices except his legion of fans, that being GIMPers and other bondage fans.

The idea of a cult book on ZFX is terrific!, nice and glossy pics and a "coffee table" accessory....but I'm still waiting for the T-shirt, let's get the collectables happening, Mr Masters.

I'm off to New Zealand for a bit of Trekking in the volcanic North Island, maybe I'll find a few nice preferably blond hitch-hikers to have fun with!

See you, Gimpers, Keep it up!

Rick, you say there's sci fi in the future? Well, dish, man! Dish! What's a-coming?

CONGRATULATIONS on the Anniversary! Been reading this site for a while, but never posted before. Got a lot of valuable informations about where to find good videos etc.

INQUISITIONLIVE

Just joined Inquisitionlive.com, despite the unfavorable exchange rate, it is well worth the money. For one thing, the site has special-offer video downloads every month at a discount more than compensate for the membership fee. Some on this board had considered buying inquistionlive videos from bootleggors. The discounted price makes it the pricing compatible.

I am into inquistion torture, but for anyone who is interested in hard torture/rape fantasies, the contents there is great. The actresses all are slim and good looking. They also act well. The fact that I don't understand German probably is a blessing, considering a lot of dirty talk I hear on some American videos is a turn-off for me.

The site runs smoothly, no glitches with signing up and downloads. The webmaster is responsive, I actually get reponses in the same day after I ask a question.

VIDEO MAYHEM

Inquisitionlive's professionalism leaves something to be desired of Video Mayhem. I read Dr. Know's frustration with ordering from Video Mayhem. I can attest that Dr. Know's experience is not unique. I also have experienced and am experiencing long delays and silent treatment from Larry. I can certainly understand business challenges like back-order etc. But, when a significant delay occurs, the customer should be notified.

-SG

Re: sharing the fantasy, I've told any girlfriend I was dating for more than a few months about this interest. One was so into it I got to explore every fantasy I had. It was awesome. But she was crazy and broke up with me. Kinda cool that I can always think about our encounters though.

One girl claimed she liked it rough but did NOT want to be tied up. Okay, that was fine. Pretty much everyone who found out was tolerant of it. The couple that weren't really into it just let me think about it and didn't go snooping around my computer or video collection.

In my most serious relationship (current one), she knows about it, has tried it lightly, isn't really into it but is open to doing it occasionally, which works for me. Honestly, when you're in the real thing, there's not much time to construct a fantasy scenario. You just really do want to be romantic. Maybe that'll change when I'm married. :)

I like both realistic and sci-fi type setups. I like good melodrama, maybe just because it makes me comfortable that it's not too real. I do think "realistic" camera work or other tricks often ruin good shots. I mean, we don't want Kubrick in our porn. We want a clear picture.

Rick's sets don't bother me. I prefer home invasion to dirty warehouse, but in any event, Rick's plots, actors, positions and penetration make the whole package work.

My big thing is dialogue. I like to hear the guy taunt the victim. I like to hear the girl protest A LOT. I know people like gags, but I would like to hear more of the girl's voice to set up just how much she doesn't want to be in this position.

What ruins most bondage movies for me is the sense that nobody really minds being tied up. If the girl struggles, it's because she's mad she got caught off guard. But she's a porn model, so she's fine with being naked and she's fine with being tied up because she's had lots of practice.

I'll tell you, Goldie (www.damselx.com) used to really sell how much distress she was in. Lately she's gotten too used to it. Maybe experience tainted her. Powershotz.com actually gets great dialogue and protest, but there's no penetration. Still the threat of it and those models make it worth it.

Lorelei does a phenomenal job of getting the right LOOKS from her photos, but I'd love to see it in live action. And as hot as Hogtied and SocietySM are, they're just too consensual.

Of course we'd all like to write our own personal bondage fantasy but most of us don't have the money to commission a good production. As a previous thread revealed, anything affordable is just not reliable.

But thank God we get producers reading the board every now and then. Has anyone perhaps noticed some of our feedback going directly into videos or photos?

If my memory is correct, Ralphus once said that plots and story lines posted here had found there way into some movies. However, I can't recall any specific examples.

Regarding dealing with Video Mayhem, I think if you took a poll of the readers here who have dealt with them, nearly everyone to a man will praise how helpful Larry is to every customer and how quick the service is. Dr. Know claimed he was having problems with the e-mail bouncing, yet I e-mailed Larry that day and he replied right away, so it sounds like the problem was with Dr. Know's mailbox, and not Video Mayhem.

Anyway, I would prefer not to have the discussion lead to whether or not we should be procuring Video Mayhem's services. Everyone has their opinion on the subject, but we've already discussed this up and down and I really don't think we need to go there again.

Regarding Inquisition Live, I love medieval tortures, too. You mentioned you are turned off by the "dirty talk" you hear in American videos? Are you referring to swearing by the villains in these films? Sometimes that can be a bit excessive if the guy is dropping the F-word over and over, but I personally like it when the guy is mean and calls her names or insults her while he's raping or torturing her. Shows he's into his role, and really wants to hurt her and teach her a lesson.

Likewise, I agree with Bob Smith. Dialogue is important. In my opinion, it can be very important. If the villain is vocal and you can tell he's having fun, it's contagious. Check out Brian Dunhill torturing Monica Moore in the Reporter movies, for instance. If you haven't seen those (and you should!), think of Joe Marx vs. Lisa Kinkaid in South of the Border 4. Part of the reason those movies rocked was because the lead bad guy was so effective, and because the victims both knew how to scream and make us believe their plight.

Then contrast that with Travis Lee vs. Suzi Sexton in the shock scene during Bitter Sweet Persuasion. Technically a great scene: beautiful, expressive victim, perfectly directed and edited, but there's a flatness to it because of Lee's robotic performance. That was the one element lacking that kept that film from getting an A in my book.

A Canadian: You are right about The Dirty Dreams of Lisa Kinkaid. Watch the beginning of it and you'll notice Lisa is answering the very questions we asked of her on this board. It's pretty cool that a lot of them made it into the movie. A transcript of that interview can be found here:

http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/lisa/lisa_jun02.html

Also, regarding specific instances in which our suggestions made it into a ZFX film, in the first few years of this board, our friend AvF suggested tying the victim upside-down and dunking her head into a bucket of water. Rick seemed to like this idea, and some time later, he did the same thing to Lisa Kinkaid in the aforementioned SOB-4. I seem to recall someone here suggested using a bottle of hot sauce up the rectum, and Rick later did that to Marly Rowe in South of the Border 5.

Were the ideas ours or did Rick think of them first? Only he knows that for sure, but we all know he reads this board and he's always thinking of inventive new tortures. Who knows, with all the demented minds that read and post here, we could certainly be an influence, and we might someday see some of our perverted thoughts brought to life in a later ZFX film. Just think of the power! Makes a man proud to be a GIMPer.

I think four of us have so far posted reviews of one type or another about "The Apartment". Two of us thought it was the best ZFX flik ever (including me after having seen dozens and dozens of ZFX films over the years). And the other two also praised it highly.

Not only would I be curious what more people think, especially if anyone DIDNT like it, but also I'm sure Rick would be glad to know what we like or don't like.

zee-ef-ex

I'm catching up with a lot of ZFX I missed out over the years and I am thoroughly enjoying them, the stuff is remarkable. ZFX is destined to find its niche in the annals of adult films, so a cult book on ZFX like one fellow Gimper suggested is a great idea, or at least a 'Guide to ZFX films' with reviews, movie plots & info on actresses and actors, sets, locations and trivia would be a Gimper's Wet Dream come true....

Now, I'll get outta yer way, gimpers and I'll see ya next time!

When that thin girl gets caught in the motel room (sorry, forgot her name) and they strip search her, she's so compliant. Cops shouldn't be fondling her breasts. Why isn't she telling them, "What are you doing? I know my rights? How dare you touch my breasts? Are you enjoying this?" She only acts slightly more dejected when she's tied and raped. It's a good scene that could have been great with a little bit of the right dialogue from the victim.

InquisitionLive and Red Feline

Thought I should check in on a few issues here. A while back I happened to have ordered about 5 of these from VideoMayhem. Lemme mention that the first time I ordered from them I forgot to specify DVD. Larry resent the order for free. This last time the order took a while to arrive. As soon as I contacted Larry he immediatly resent the order. BTW Larry if you are reading this, that initial order finally arrived about two weeks after you dropped it in the mail.

So Larry is cool, and if anyone says otherwise, I would suggest they recheck the problem from their end.

But what about those videos I got? Because of all the drama surrounding the bootlegging of InquisitionLive by VM, I was the very last order Larry filled. Here is the lowdown from my point of view. First off I got a bit confused thinking that the Red Feline series and the InquisitionLive stuff were all made by the same company. So I'd bought some of the Interrogation line thinking they would be like the Red Feline on the Cross vid I reviewed a while back.

They aren't. From where I sit, the 2 Interrogation vids I got are very similar in nature to the stuff from Paingate but with slightly better acting. I wasn't terribly impressed.

On the other hand I also got 3 flicks from the Red Feline and Mellisa series. Gimpers I gotta say that torture fans who watch this are in for both the biggest thrill and the gravest disappointment of their career as perverts. The acting is by far the best I have ever seen. No ZFX actress comes close to Red's anguised cries or Melissas look of utter misery. The whipping sounds, while fake, sound really good. Even though the music gets a bit repetative, it sets the mood well. Unfortunately, some fucking moron forgot to turn the lights on. Yeah. You can HEAR some great torture, and the shadowy, grainy images occaisionally suggest how cool it would be if you really could see the scene, but overall, it's a fuckup - pure and simple. Like Red Feline on the cross, I really would fork over $70 for a high quality print, but my impression from the bootlegs is that even a perfectly clear version would still be far too dark to really be enjoyable. And BTW Ralphus - no masks in this one. There is a wonderful scene where Red is chained arms overhead glaring defiantly at her captor. She begins to yell at him and he places a metal collar around her neck which begins to choke off her screams. It really works well IF I COULD FREAKING SEE IT!!

ALthough the newer HOM stuff along with the even lighter stuff from LBO don't get a lot of play here, at least there is decent lighting and sound.

OK I'm done grumbling. Once again if anyone has seen an origional of the Red Feline series and if they actually look decent, please pipe in and share.

Ralphus,

Thanks for your kind welcome. Always enjoyed this forum. Yes, I am turned off by excessive cursing. I fully respect other people's taste and can understand why characters like that of Brian Dunhill in Reporter work for many people. I for one do not appreciate Brian's character in Reporter--no offence to Brian himself. I often feel that excessive cursing and degrading talks cheapen the plot and the victim (and if you like to fantasize being the villain yourself, you probably don't want to be one like Brian Dunhill). Fortunately, Monica's performance more than made up for the shortcoming. Yes, I like dialog too--quality dialog that advances the plot, just not cursing and dirty talk.

I also am a fan of ZFX. Loved Monica Moore, Chandra Sweet, and Lisa Kinkaid, and others. So we do have common taste about women--which is what the focus is anyway, right? I agree with everything you said about Lisa. Though it is never too much to see Lisa in ZFX movies, I do hope to see some new girls or some other past favorites--if only Rick could bring back Monica or Chandra!

Since we are on the topic, I might indulge and venture to suggest a collaboration between ZFX and Insex. Wouldn't it be great to combine ZFX's plot and Insex's seemingly endlist cadre of new models?

RE VM, no ill intentions, just stating the fact to corroborate with Dr. Know. Since Larry has given his word, I will take it off-line with him.

Wouldn't it be great to combine ZFX's plot and Insex's seemingly endlist cadre of new models?

Boy, there's no way I would ever want to watch a ZFX film with the freakgirls they put up at Insex. True, it's been a while since I was a member, so I haven't noticed if they have anyone new, but most of the chicks I recall seeing at Insex were covered with tattoos and piercings and that's a huge turnoff right away. The only Insex models I can recall that I would want to see RM work with would be Liz Tyler, Peaches and Sharon Engert, and I know Liz is already retired. The girls of ZFX are probably the Number One reason why they appeal to me...it all comes down to casting.

On the other hand, PD has done some incredible stuff, and he's come up with some amazing ideas I've never seen anywhere else...stuff like spit roasting, burying someone up to their neck in the ground, tying a girl to an anthill, dunking her upside down into a puddle of mud...but some of those models...(shaking head). I know he doesn't intentionally hire freakgirls; they are probably the only type of woman who would consent to having that sort of stuff done to them.

Not trying to bash Insex, but their models are the worst thing about that company. A ZFX plot would not work for me when the bad guy strips off the victim's clothing, only to find her body already covered with tattoos. It's totally wrong.

Now if you could have Rick incorporate some of Insex's ingenious tortures into a ZFX plot, and of course, make the action nonconsensual, I would love to see that. But a collaboration between Rick and PD? Never happen; the two are way too far apart philosophically. The two just make totally different types of films. It's like putting chocolate sauce on a steak. Apologies for the gross analogy :)

Ralphus,

I agree that some of the earlier girls on Insex are pretty unappealing, perhaps PD was just starting out. And, I hate tattoo covered look, too. Fortunately for me, I discovered Insex only in the last year and a half. And, there are plenty good looking girls now. I can't name all of them but here are a few among those that whet my appetite:

- Molley
- Violet
- Cowgirl
- Wendy
- ......

The point is, new faces and bodies continue to show up on Insex, and PD is prodigious. So, you can afford to ignore the unappealing ones. I am not here to advertise for PD. But, if you haven't checked out Insex for a while, it's worth another look.

My pet peeve with Insex is that it is all too consensual for me.

Best,

SG

I do look forward to a time when he makes more films than the current production schedule allows, but it doesn't reduce my entertainment at the offerings he's produced so far over the years. That he continues to become more skilled technically savvy with the new tools being made available to small filmmakers is certain.

On an unrelated note, there is an issue that came into my thoughts while I was away, that being the health of our friend Damien. Has there been any update on his health? Ralphus, please email me if you've heard anything but don't want to publish it here. He's a good guy (his excitable and irrascible nature aside), and I wish him well.

Peace,

Iago

Damian, anyone?

Re your posting about how creative Rick is and how he improves over time, I agree with everything you said. Your post was very well stated. I, too, appreciate how Rick tries out different things and is always seeking excellence. Good work ethic, Rick. Good traditional American values. And great art as a result.

You would have made it in Hollywood, Rick. (Heck, you might still yet.)

zee-ef-ex

Mr. Fantastic: Yeah, most Japanese videos have censored genitals; it's the law in Japan. I wouldn't let a little pixilation stop me from checking out Japanese bondage vids. IMO, they make the best bondage videos in the world, and that includes ZFX. Do I mind the censoring? Well, to me, it's usually not that noticeable, and the content of what you get from a good Japanese vid far outweighs the minimal distraction of optical censoring. If you boycott Japanese vids just because you can't see her pussy clearly, you are missing out on some super material. Nobody makes bondage films like the Japanese. Nobody.

The Apartment ...ZFX's best movie ever? Some seem to think so. At any rate, it's gotten unanimous good reviews here so far, so everyone should buy their own copy to check it out. If you haven't done so yet, what are you waiting on? Here's the direct link to buy it from CD Universe:

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6845852&oldcart=233592241&style=ice&Bab=E

I'll weigh in with my opinion. Best of all time? That's a pretty bold statement, considering Rick has made...I think 151 movies now. I've seen them all. I gave this one a very good grade (B+) so obviously I liked it a lot. But to me, I wanted more bondage, and I still don't like Lisa's pigtails. That eliminates it from contention on my Best list. Hey, with that many movies, you have to use some criteria to decide what to take and what to cut.

So personally, it wouldn't pick it as Number One, and honestly, I don't think it would make my Top Ten. I'd put The Cheerleaders of Perilous U., South of the Border 4, Ballista 2, or Gangstarr: The Reporter Part 2 easily ahead of it. Probably several others.

However...

I think if you're looking strictly for a rape movie, this might be ZFX's best. Clearly, it's about rape, much more than any other ZFX movie I can remember. And we all love rape around here. If rape is your thing, you should definitely be going after The Apartment. Rick already said he likes to hear feedback, so let's have more of you weighing in. That means you've got to see the movie first. Go to it, guys!

Dan, I was thinking about joining your site, but I had a couple of questions

1. Are your video clips any larger than they were a couple years ago?

2. How far back do the available archives go?

I acknowledge all your points from previous posts about male dominant and female victim being the "natural" best fit, but my preference is still girl threatening/abusing girl, as long as both parties are sufficiently attractive/feminine. I don't think that anything I have seen in my 10 movies, which included the girl/girl scenes in the Whiplash series, was very well done.

I vote for Rick finding a babe who can really instill threat and pleasure from abusing her girl victim(s) - and making a movie around that theme. Maybe a movie like the mainstream Kiss the Girls or Silence of the Lambs with a woman as the main character who "collects" other women for her sexual pleasures.

I recognize that according to Freud this particular interest probably makes me a latent homosexual, but I just don't give a damn! (LOL)

OK, that is enough of analysis, which I may do again. Does anyone here have an opinion on Raven Hill material. From what little I've seen, there is some serious whipping and canning going on. Remember people, I value your opinion.

DM: I sincerely doubt that wanting to see two girls in action makes you a latent homosexual. Besides that, Freud had some serious issues anyway.

As far as having a woman as the dominant, I can see the appeal; I just don't think it's very realistic, is all. Maybe because I have those old fashioned beliefs of gender stereotypes that fit my ideal plan of how things should be. The men are powerful and dominant; the women are weaker and submissive. Men are ideal villains because we're bigger and stronger than most women. I'm not saying that the notion of a dominant woman isn't exciting, but somehow it just seems artificial. Maybe because I don't really know any women who are dominant, so I just can't grasp the concept very easily.

One scenario I would like to see would a jealous girl who decides to get revenge against another girl who tried to steal her guy. Or better yet, a group of girls who get together and take it out against that one victim. With a bunch of them together, gang mentality takes over and I could see them get to wailing on that poor, unfortunate chick. I've heard of real-life cases like that, where they do things as a group that they wouldn't normally do if they didn't have the others cheering them on. You know, safety in numbers. I would willingly buy an all-girl bondage/torture vid if it had a theme like that. It sounds like a believable concept.

You're also right in saying that ZFX doesn't do all-girl vids very well. As much as I love Lisa Kinkaid, she doesn't hack it in a dominant role. Neither did Sierra Stuart, one of my favorites from Rick's early days. On the other hand, Tabitha Jordan and Penelope Pace played villains pretty well. In fact, I much prefer Tabitha as a dom than as a victim. Penelope could do anything; she was that good. If you want to see a couple of really good ZFX vids that featured good femdom scenes, check out Penelope tormenting Lisa in the original Miss Ballista and also in Seed. Two very good performances in two very good movies.

Let's hear from some people as to the reason why you like to see female dominants. I know there are some of you out there. And does the idea of it really ring true to you, as much so as having men doing the tying? Or does the lack of realism not matter to you, since these are for fantasy anyway? Now is the time to speak up if you like women tying up other women. Make yourself heard.

Speaking of Penelope (my fav ZFX girl - I like large breasts); The Cheerleaders of Perilous U & The Violation of Viki Fixx had the girl #1 hires guy to beat up on girl #2 theme & then girl 2 and guy beat up on girl #1. Nice combo ;-)

As long as you got me going here, how about a camp setting with female camp counselors -- they start to fool around with each other and it escalates to some of the girls enacting some gimp perversion on others.

Anyway, I have been unable to find anyplace to buy the video. Maybe Video Mayhem can get hold of a copy through his sources. If its any help, here is the web site: http://www.hanatohebi-movie.com

Thanks in advance for any help I get.

Re "about the Force Fantasies site... do they show actual penetration."

Sadly I don't. The pics show the guy whipping out his dick and holding it up to her crotch, and the pics after that show them hip-to-hip, without showing the insertion or penetration. I do like to see penetration myself, but due to legal concerns it's not shown on my website.

Penetration does sometimes occur at the photo-sessions. I hire mostly couples and sometimes when it gets to that point, they want to fuck even though I can't photograph it. In those cases I shoot very carefully while they're having sex, so that my pics don't show his shaft in her. (Can anyone guess which scenes where this happened? I think I'm hiding it pretty well. lol)

When shooting scenes in which I'm the victim, we usually do object-penetration pics for my personal collection. To see an insertion pic that matches a scene on my site, but the pic couldn't be used, check my personal profile over at rapeclub: http://www.rapeclub.net/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=viewprofile;user=Lorelei

Re: "I too have thought about signing up for force fantasies. I just wish there was somewhere to view a little more of the photos."

There are 50 large samples at http://forcefantasies.com/force/free-tour ...The problem with the public preview is that due to billing company legal problems, I can't show toplessness or nudity on the public site. :( But there is a hidden page that accurately shows the member area content, including the nudity, the hard-ons and the sex positions. I can't put the complete URL here since it can't wind up in search engines. But you can reassemble the URL and see for yourself. Go to http://www.forcefantasies.com/index.html and then alter the URL -- remove the index.html part and replace it with these letters: modeling

Enjoy the pics and please do not repost that URL or those pics anywhere else - thanks.

Re "I have joined on two separate occasions in the past, but never kept the subscription going for long because she only updates once a month"

This is correct. I only do one update a month, usually the final week of the month, and the update is about 80 pics. The renewal months are cheaper, but you'll still get more for your money if you only join for one month, then wait 5-6 months before coming back to see what got added in your absence.

Natasha, if you're thinking of bringing in a camera-man, I hope you'll find a camera-woman for your bondage/intercourse vids. A few times that Jon and I had someone video our private activities, we had a female photographer/videographer, and that's usually easier on the male performer (if he isn't bi).

Re Tiana Cambridge: Last I heard, she was married and had a career and was living happily ever after. A similar outcome for a lot of models after they retire.

Re "Now is the time to speak up if you like women tying up other women." For me, not on video. That's pretty boring for me. I like to see a man doing the tying.

Re "Best bondage movie of all time huh? I'll go with Top Secret with Vanessa Del Rio. I can't watch it without ruining a towel." I agree - this is one of my fave fetish vids.

Re: "Does anyone else think a rape scene (or a torture scene) can be 'too real' to be enjoyed?" Yes, if things get too gooey it doesn't work for me. Just as an example, in real life if someone cries snot will probably drip out of their nose, but I want the woman to still look gorgeous when she's being attacked. Not with snot on her face.

Re whether we prefer all-nude or not: Personally I need to sense some kind of plot, so I need to assign "character" to the victim. Is she a secretary, a waitress, or what? For me that's part of the fantasy and so, I like clothing to be ripped and pulled and messed up, but not totally removed. The clothing identifies her "personality" to me. Particularly I would like to think she's innocent and naive and so this attack is all the more unfamiliar to her and terrifying for her. A totally nude victim isn't sexy to me.

Re "A ZFX plot would not work for me when the bad guy strips off the victim's clothing, only to find her body already covered with tattoos. It's totally wrong."

I agree with this for the same reason as above -- I fantasize that the victim is innocent -- so if she's covered with tattoo's it doesn't work for me.

Re: "This forum is devoted to discussion of extreme bondage video, namely ZFX Productions, emphasizing the fantasy aspects of extreme bondage."

I don't think that's quite accurate. I haven't been here in a few years, but I used to hang out here, and coming back I see the main emphasis is still on Terrified And Tortured -- not extreme physical restraint. Extreme bondage is stuff like difficult suspensions etc. Usually what fans here discuss is the elements of mind games, torment, sexual abuse -- very little about physical restraint, tying styles, positions, bondage materials, or any of that. So, I would suggest the definition of this forum be changed to something like "This forum is devoted to discussion of extreme sadism videos, namely ZFX Productions, emphasizing the fantasy aspects of extreme sadism." (The term BDSM wouldn't be correct either because folks here are into fantasies of peril and nonconsenting victims -- not women who are submissive/masochistic and enjoying the activities.)

For me, seeing an attractive woman exerting that kind of dominance over another attractive woman always comes off as false. I mean, how hard is it for a hot female to find sex? So seeing one go to that extreme on film just seems rather silly to me. I agree Penelope Pace pulled it off better than any other I've seen, but it still isn't as good as seeing a guy do it. Maybe there are some big bull dike prison women who do that kind of shit, but you're certainly not going to get me to pay money to watch that. (^_^)

I'd also like to second the request to Larry over at VM that "J" made below. I would love it if you could get some copies of the Hanna to Hebi vids, as they're only available through Japanese distribution, and that's kind of a pain in the ass.

Other stuff: Can rape scenes be to real? Yes, I thought the movie Irreversible was too harsh for my tastes. I don't want to see any blood. To me gooey is fine, but I'm certainly not talking about snot. Wink Wink nudge nudge. (*_*) (God, what an infant I am)

For me the only area where it can never go too far is good art. A talented artist can do whatever he wants to the subjects in his work no matter the extremes, and I find it to be wonderful if the art is good. But if the same scenarios were done with real people it would turn my stomach. With art your mind is free to go wherever the artist is willing and able to take you, with real images compassion for my fellow man, or woman as the case may be, is to firmly in place for me to enjoy stuff that extremes. I even think some of the stuff at Insex is to heavy for my tastes, plus the fact that it's all openly consensual. (Blah)

Nude or Not nude. I most defiantly fall into the completely nude category. I do agree that you want to have some kind of outfit to establish who the model is supposed to be at the beginning, but for heavens sake, the reason these women are called models is because they're HOT. There's not a dress, panties, or bra on the planet that looks as good as what hidden underneath of them. So you can take your time removing them, but don't leave them there the whole time.

Japanese vids are very good about this in that they usually have scenes in the beginning where the women will stay partially clothed and then by then end of the vid all clothes are completely gone. That's one of the main reasons I could never really get into the Eyewitness vids, aside from them being ridiculously over priced. They usually keep their models clothed through out 95% of the vid and then at the end they will flash some tits or something. There was even an argument on this very board a few years back with some of the Eyewitness regulars after Ralphus and myself had dared to mention on the Eyewitness board that we'd actually like to see some of the models get completely nude for a change.

Is Lisa Kinkaid overused? That depends. If Rick has more vids that were filmed around the same time the Apartment was the answer is a resounding no. Her body is better than I've ever seen it in that movie, but there've most defiantly been some that were apparently filmed later were she looks a little worse for the ware. Oh ya, Ralphus, I thought the pigtails on her were hot as hell. Just think of all different and wonderful ways those could be used as handle bars. Ahhh, makes me smile just thinking about it. (^_^)

HOWIE

But that's precisely the reason I would say "most" guys, notice I said most not all, would agree with me that there really isn't anything better on the planet to look at than a gorgeous fully nude woman. As I mentioned below, yes it's good to have her in an outfit at the beginning to establish her character, but after that I get it. She's a really hot waitress, now lets see her naked. (^_^)

HOWIE

So, thumbs up to the dominant men of the world and a big thumbs up to ZFX for providing the fantasy!

Regarding your idea about changing the wording to our mission statement from "extreme bondage" to "extreme sadism", thanks for the observation and the suggestion. We'll keep it like it is.

Ultimately, bondage is the whole reason behind this site. You are correct that we often talk about mind games, torment and sexual abuse...but bondage is the glue that holds them all together. Without the bondage, a lot of us would lose interest, and I don't really see how any of those other aspects would work as well without the girl being restrained.

I think there are a few ways of interpreting the term "extreme bondage". It can mean difficult suspensions and the like, but it can also mean bondage combined with other elements that set it apart from merely tying her up and watching her struggle. I believe that's how it was meant in connection with this site when it started 6 years ago. We began as a discussion board for ZFX videos, which often feature bondage mixed with elements of torture and sexual abuse. That is where the "extreme" part comes from.

A company like Harmony could conceivably use the exact same bondage positions as ZFX, but they don't add anything more. No torture, no forced sex. In other words, it's bondage and that's it. Boring. Their stuff is not extreme. And we don't talk about them here.

Dan Hawke, on the other hand, makes extreme videos in my book, in that he combines harsh bondage that really taxes the endurance of his models with added torments like clothespins and whipping to increase her suffering.

I've seen some of your photo sets, and I also consider what you deliver to be extreme, because you add that extra element of forced sex into the equation...and we all appreciate that addition to our bondage entertainment.

I think we're a little more advanced here in that we don't talk so much about the actual bondage itself...the bondage positions, tying styles and the type of rope to use. That can be interesting, but it can also make the process of tying up a girl seem less exciting and more like a clinical exercise. Instead, we like to talk about what to do with her once she's tied up, and the ideas and the psychology behind tying her in those positions. And that, to me, is much more interesting.

So Terrified and Tortured is a correct assumption regarding what we like and what we talk about here, but I would also add the word "tied" to the motto. "Tied, Terrified and Tortured"...Hey, I like that. The 3 T's. Catchy :)

In the most recent Savage Love sex-advice column, which appears in alternate magazines such as The Village Voice, there is a discussion of bondage -- both gay and straight. The columnist, Dan Savage, tells a reader that "Bondage is the new oral sex – it just isn't that kinky any more."

Hmmm...I wonder what that says about the extreme bondage scenes that we enjoy?

You are correct. There is a Hana to Hebi sequel but it won't be available on DVD in Japan until 04/26/2005.

Gern

Hello all:

Been a while since I posted, but I just wanted to take a few moments to answer the questions BBFan asked.

Basically the main member site has the same type of content as previously, photo sets and brief rm files. The rm files are generally in the five minute range, give or take a few minutes. I don't think any are over 10 minutes and the majority are pretty close to 5 minutes.

The site isn't designed to replace the videos. Many of the best sites (such as insex and hogtied) don't release completed videos. Thus the only way to get to see a long form video is to assemble it from rm files. I provide the video product, the site is more about the photos and to give you a brief flavor of the video product. To provide long form video would require a sharp rise in price to pay for the bandwidth used.

As to the archives, they go all the way back, however I am not sure if everything I have ever done is currently available on the site. A lot of material is. The reason for my uncertainty is that the site is being redesigned. All of the very recent material is already in the new format, but the older material is slowly being converted. Once this is complete I will be able to truly figure out what is missing.

I have watched a lot of the conversation about femme domme bondage recently with great interest. I am planning on launching such a site in the near future and am busy gathering material for this separate site. I haven't decided if I will have a new line of femme domme videos or if I will simply incorporate that material as scenes into my current line of vids. I try to make sure that the material shot has transitional bridges that will allow it to fit into my current product line.

I will let you all know when this site is ready to go, but I hope it won't be any longer than four months from now. Basically I need enough material to make sure I don't launch a lame, under-contented, site.

I will say that I read this board almost daily. Comments here do have some effect on how I shoot.

There was a lot of discussion about my crazy angles. I still think those angles were overly addressed as a "negative" in some comments and reviews, but I must admit I was doing way too much of that stuff. As later material is released you will see that those "dutch" angles are not much used anymore - though I don't think I will ever completely abandon them.

The other thing I need to keep in mind is that I don't think most of the folks who post here are big fans of my type of material. There is a lot of emphasis on sci-fi plots, etc. here on the board. While I admire the creativity of Rick in including these elements, to me personally that is all fast forward material.

My personal tastes are for the action to be as real as possible. That is why I am a big fan of sites like insex and hogtied. I want things to look real. That is the major thing I go for in my vids, with only minor attention paid to anything like a "plot". I do try and include some sort of set-up and hope to do a little more robust storylines at some point.

Still I am simpatico enough with the gimpers that I must admit the non-consensuality is a turn on. Still, plot points and video with torture that is too obviously faked makes a product totally unappealing to me. I don't think this view is widely held by the gimp readers. Thus while I think I overlap with much of the "gimp taste", I feel it more important to be true to my own vision. I would much rather watch a good insex/hogtied scene where the model obviously consented than a plot heavy effort where I know that all the sm elements are being faked.

I would rather watch a moderate real flogging, than an intense "looking", but none-the-less faked cinematic one. I suggest this may be a good poll to put to the gimpers – do u like it real or memorex. Based on past postings, I think I know the answer, but perhaps I'm wrong

It is very difficult to weed out comments which might only represent the opinions of a single person from those more broadly shared. This is a good reason for all the lurkers to de-lurk. I already know the opinions of the main posters here. If you all want this board to have a bigger effect on producers, then you need more folks to post their likes and dislikes. I must say I am happy to see a lot more lurkers opting to post here recently. It is a good trend and necessary to make sure the gimp board has a seventh, if not a tenth, anniversary.

Okay, well that's all for now. I just wanted to drop in and say hi!

~Dan

Fem/fem

Well, I've posted before on this, but let me reiterate that F/f bondage is my favorite type if the domme is actaully cruel, not just staging it. Good, hard F/f is really very hard to find, as even on sites like wiredpussy, it's often unapologetically consentual. I've tried to get good, mean F/f in customs, but it never hit quite what I had in mind. But, if somebody can do it right and not have it set up as girls just playing, I will be a fan.

BBFan: I agree that hard F/f is really very hard to find. Rick does a pretty good job. Would like to see the F/f equivalent of brutalviolence.com. I too have done customs with ho-hum results even when writing detailed script. I have just finished designing for a F/f site that has promise and am hoping to steer them in the right direction with the vids...will disclose it when ready.

Let me add that I love when your models start out clothed, sexy and otherwise. Then the tearing of clothing is so erotic. And thank you, thank you, thank you for not removing the luscious panties so damn quickly. Too many sites, including Hogtied, just go for nudity. I like the approach like symphony, with the first movement setting the pace, knowing that the crescendo is coming. I love long flogging scenes. That scene with Ayisis is just pure gold. Unfortunately, I've never seen you flog that lovely ass.

I'm delighted that you are open to feedback, but it should be filtered through your inner voice and inner vision. You do unique work and that's why I'm a fan.

In case this wasn't already obvious, I really hope you get the F/f site going. Hope you incorporate forced cunnilingus and continiue with that nice breast bondage.

I also like the angle from the floor up at the pussy/ass/tied titties on a tied girl, though I don't like most of the other angles.

There's only one angle (the overtilted dutch tilt) that people didn't care for. No one complained about any other angle.

Real vs Fake: I've seen lame real and well-done faked video (and photo series). I've seen well-done real and lame faked video. For me, well-done beats out lame more than real beats out fake. Lame real video and poorly done fake video are equal candidates for fast-forwarding or dozing off. Good real and good fake can work equally well for me.

Fem/fem: I like F/f. I prefer M/f, but F/f can be great. Depends how it's done. I've shot both.

Non-nude: can be arousing, but only to a point. A scene that starts with the girl already completely naked is also missing something I think (the ability to strip her). A hot girl fully clothed that is then stripped completely naked during the course of a video or photo series is best.

Can rape scene be too real? yeah, I think so...in that a scene can appear too mean, too brutal, too violent oriented where the violence overshadows the erotica to where there's no erotica left. If that makes any sense.

Something like that...here's what actually happened...

Saturday July 29th 2000 12:03:47, I wrote in my review of ZFX's 'the Hitchhiker'...
He turns her [Penelope Pace] onto her left side, gropes her a little, and leaves her as we watch her struggle (she looks good, but enough with the leaving, do something to her, more groping, what about a crotch rope, rub some bengay between her legs!).

Tuesday August 1st 2000 06:26:19, Rick commented back...
The Ben Gay woulda been a nice touch! Or some kind of irritant like chili sauce, vicks etc.

And the rest is history. Thus my small claim to fame in influencing ZFX :)

As Scribbler mentioned, I also don't think Sci-Fi is a really big focus on this board. I know that for me I just have a three criteria that need filled and I'm a happy camper. 1. The chick has to be hot. 2. It has to be non-consensual. 3. The chick HAS to get naked at some point. If those three are met, the plot of the video could be about Dairy Farming and I'd be pleased as punch. I mean, everyone has their own special kink, but for the most part I think the over all vibe of this board is that we just love the fantasy of seeing superhot women used against their will.

Scribbler, you summed up my feeling on the real non-real issue very well. When it becomes ALL about the violence then it's like watching someone who keeps running over a puppy with their car. Nothing sexual, just one sided violence and kind of disturbing. Accept of course with well made art as I keep mentioning add nausea.

HOWIE

Whether the torture is "real" or faked doesn't matter to me, as long as it looks real...this is all about fantasy.

BTW the F/f site I just designed for is www.boundwill.com which has promise, hopefully they will listen to my video suggestions but who knows.

I am sure all of you are familiar with the HOM classic scans known as CHADs. Like many people, I have been searching for these for years and managed to build up a fairly decent collection. Some pay sites, such as Talon's Eyrie, have done a pretty good job of archiving them. Well, there is now a series of 30, that's right 30 groups on Yahoo with close to the complete set. The first group is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bondserieschad/ , the remaining 29 are the same with the addition of each group's number at the end, 2-30. I downloaded almost 100 zip files over the course of several weeks to complete my collection! You do have to contend with the Yahoo daily download limits though, but it is a small price to pay.

I agree F/F is hard to make, I used to stay away from the genre in the past, but that all changed after I watched ZFX's THE VAN (another overlooked and forgotten 'Cinderella' in the ZFX catalog), brutally realistic and a real turn on, and all FEMALE! (no annoying fat-gutted. hairy slobs to worry about!!).

Anyhow, has anybody thought of a ZFX "Bloopers", after all us Gimpers do have a humorous side. I noticed one Female Gimper remarked that "humour" helps women them to ease into their "interest" more comfortably and safer, after all we are into this because we get pleasure and fun out of it (so my point...this is where F/F films come in handy, it's ok for women to engage in this activity if they see women performing it)...in fact the few women I've shared the pleasure of viewing ZFX in their company have commented that there is a funny, witty almost 'circus like' atmosphere to these films, one memorable 'saucy' bohemian girlfriend of mine remarked that ZFX films reminds her of the 'wacky video, arty performances' of prominent Los Angeles artist Paul McCarthy (famous for controversial video performances such as: "The Mad Painter", "Santa's Chocolate Workshop" and the gastronomically disgusting "Bossy Burger"......must be seen to be believed!, his work as been described by critics as "3 little pigs in a the merry-go-around-meets the Texas Chainsaw Massacre" (???) - must be seen to be believed.

Keep well and keep 'em tied up, Gimpers.

Scribbler:

Are you absolutely sure this isn't Renee Baker?

I had always thought it was and a friend (who is very knowledgeable) told me that she looked very different when she was younger.

Dan

This is what happens when one is up till ungodly hours working on one's taxes. At least, that's my excuse this week.

I trust both Dan and Scribbler know what they're talking about, since both are real aficionados of the old HOM loops. We'll see what BBFan has to say. He should know since I got the pic off his own Chadscans group.

It's hard to fathom, really, that movies themselves have only been around for about a hundred years, and if you want to trace the history of bondage movies, you could probably only go back to the 1960s or 70s, if you want to find anything that resembles the product being made today. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that means that people have been tying up naked women on film for only about 40 or so years, and with sound only for around the last 30 or so. So the history of bondage entertainment is relatively short. Put it in perspective. I'm 42. That means when I was born, basically, there were no bondage films. All this has happened in my own lifetime. That still makes my head spin a bit.

That brings up a potentially interesting question. I know people swear by the old House of Milan stuff and also the legendary works of Whitman, especially the Erotic Perversion collection. In your opinion, have their works ever been topped? Certainly they were bondage pioneers, but do you think their stuff holds up as well today as it did when it first came out?

Or do the movies being made today, like ZFX for instance, are they the new standard for bondage entertainment? 50 years from now, will people still be comparing their new movies to The Apartment? Saying things like "They sure don't make 'em like that anymore"?

In my mind, very little modern day stuff tops the intensity and the brutal action depicted in the Erotic Perversion loops. They do have that one big limitation in that there was no sound, and that's a big missing element in my book. I certainly can't fault Whitman for filming movies in the days when 8MM loops were the only medium for displaying his work. He did have the advantage, though, of filming in an era when there were relatively few restrictions on content. With all of today's technical advances, the bondage filmmaker today is hampered by fear of litigation and obscenity charges if he dares to go that far.

So let's take ZFX or Insex or some the incredible stuff the Japanese produce, and compare it with the work of those groundbreaking masters from the 70s. The Cole loops were great, but damn it, I think some of what we're getting today is pretty amazing, too. I think the ZFX stuff will last. These are the new classics. That's my opinion, let's get yours.

Here, let's simplify the question. Here's a fantasy scenario for you. Say we're with Gilligan and the Skipper and we're about to take a 3 hour tour, with a distinct possibility that we might be shipwrecked and end up stranded on a desert island for years. You only have room to carry on one suitcase.

Do you:

A) Bring along a suitcase full of classic 70s and 80s bondage entertainments

B) Bring along a suitcase full of bondage stuff that was made in the past decade or so

C) Bring along your camcorder and some rope, and hope that Ginger and Mary Ann are on the same ship

And before some wise ass brings it up, this desert island does have electricity. Work with me here, folks :)

I've recently found a whole stack of early ZFX films at a local store at a lower price, "Chamber Of Horrors" and "Maximum De Sade", are amongst them, I'd welcome any comments if you any of you Gimpers out there have seen them.

See ya!!

By the way, I have tried to rectify the problem with the site and they have sent an email but all they did was open a file for my problem and sent me my user name and password. Hell, I KNEW that!!

Ralphus I believe that that lovely model is indeed Renee Baker - her hair makes her look different, but that's her.

Regarding whether the HOM/CalStar movies have ever been topped... as far as pure intensity, detail and picture quality, obviously they have, but as far as setting, atmosphere, and story, no, they haven't, and I have even invested quite a bit of time getting customs to try to do exactly that.

For my 3-hour tour, I bring a laptop and portable hard drive loaded with all the Insex, Hogtied, etc movies they can hold - i.e. last ten years, AND all the clips that you can find from the Classic HOM era (because the amount of stuff from that era is dwarfed by the volume of material produced nowadays).

Al Top Secret is available from Video Mayhem, I believe.

Many people buy streaming because:

They want to to preview a large cross section of ZFX movies to decide what to buy.

They want a chance to see rare older titles they cant find elsewhere or that are not yet on DVD.

The live in a foreign country and dont have access to ZFX movies.

They cant have or dont want to have copies of porn at their house or on their computer.

They dont want to take 4 or 5 hours to download a movie and want to watch it right away.

To imply I am ripping people off is both insulting and just plain wrong. If you had a problem you could just email me, tech support or go get a REFUND from Verotel.com.

Rick

Red Ded

I have enjoyed some of the 70s HOM stuff, but the absence of any audio (other than music) is a problem for me. I like to hear the cries of pain.

As I have previously stated, my all-time favorite is South of the Border 4. If I got stuck on the island and I didn't have that movie with me, I think Ginger, Mary Ann and even some of the cannibal women from the nearby islands would all be in big trouble.

Speaking of cannibal women -- I see that anti-porn nutjob Andrea Dworkin died the other day. I don't know about anyone else, but I was shocked to read in the news reports that Dworkin was married. Given her tirades against men, I always assumed she was a lesbian (or, that she just wasn't getting anything at all).

One last point, on yet another unrelated topic. Monday will be an interesting day in Ontario, Canada. A judge's ruling is coming on Monday that may signal the end of the province's censor board. Even if the ruling is favorable, bondage movies would technically still be illegal. But it's doubtful the "obscenity" laws here could be prosecuted to the same extent without the censor board. So let's hope the ruling goes the right way.

I've always imagined that "Mary Ann and Ginger" could make for a very creative "outdoor" bondage genre in its own right. You could create a whole series of bondage flicks about two young, cute girls (a brunette and a redhead) "caught" in the great outdoors and subjected to all manner of abuse, bondage, torment and rape.. by castaways and "natives" alike.. *evil grin* ;-)

I've always wanted to create a bondage Web site (or possibly a line of videos) w/ vignettes divided up into a bunch of different genres like this.. genres maybe something like:

(*) Detective Magazine (aduction and kidnappings)
(*) Glamour Bondage
(*) Nazi Sexploitation

and, of course,

(*) Ginger and Mary Ann

along w/ perhaps a few others.. ;-)

Ralphus: I vote for all of the above - throw in either of the two Nova's (Linda Harrison in her youth or Estella Warren) on the island and I'm willing to part with either A or B!

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Saw your post about my site in the February archive of this board. Glad you liked it. Too much time on my hands I don't know about (midnight oil and all that), but it's always great to see that folk enjoy the final product.

My own fave raves in the video bondage front were some of the harsher roughies of the '70s that really pushed limits (Hardgore and the like) and the nastier loops of the period. Some of that was a real inspiration for the PPP sets.

I have seen a couple of the South of the Borders and am very impressed with their out-there quality -- wish I could figure a way to lay my hands upon them in the UK.

Spikey

I know, I know, those aren't technically Barbie dolls, since I don't recall my sister's Barbie having actual nipples and genitalia. But maybe they've improved them over the years :)

That reminds me of a joke that Saturday Night Live's Norm Macdonald once made about how Mattel was redesigning its Barbie doll with more human proportions, explaining that if Barbie was 6 feet tall she'd have a 40-inch chest. Macdonald's punch line: "Why not just make her 6 feet tall?"

Since we're an anonymous forum, it's hard to know where most of us are from, but I often see foreign sounding names and e-mail addresses, so I think we can safely say this is truly an international forum for pervs and sick fucks who like to see naked girls get tied up, raped and tortured. Ah, it's nice to know that great minds think alike.

Just for fun, let's do a flash poll and see how many countries get represented. We want to hear especially from our foreign visitors that are not from the US. Tell us what country you're from, and how you found out about this forum. Lurkers, this would be a good time to come out and introduce yourself. As I've mentioned before, this board is only as good as its readers who post and contribute, so do your part and help keep us alive.

Let's see what we have beyond the midwest U.S.A. with girls tied as high as an elephants eye (oh - sorry, that was corn in Oklahoma) and into the world at large!

Nice to be here and good to find a forum that deals with the kind of video that has been so hard to come by in these dark days of Politically Correct Pornography -- everyone is happy happy slutty slutty and the darker and more interesting aspects of sexuality get shelved in favour of slippery gynecological close-ups. Like I mentioned in my earlier message, the harsh stuff from the 'seventies like Hard Gore, Kinky Ladies of Bourbon Street and the nastier claret-laced SM loops of the 1970s really capture an intense sensuality that it's taken straight-to-video and free-for-all cyberspace to bring back in any degree -- ZFX's stuff is one of the best steps back onto that path of erotica.

PPP has been a fun exercise since I first put the site up last year. I got started doing extreme S&M art in smudged pencil (I set up my Victim Zone site for that stuff wayyy back), but truth is that my illustrative ability was never quite what I wanted it to be. I found I could give form to my more extreme imaginings more easily with posed dolls -- an idea I got from a Japanese site called Ura Ent which used gorgeous and spookily lifelike (until Ura Ent got finished with them) Japanese sex dolls. There being no equivalent doll at a suitably stingy price and with a small enough lifestyle footprint available in Canada (where I did the first sets) I opted for a short-lived Barbie variant called Dance 'n Flex.

The Dance 'n Flex dolls have no ball joints but use a wire endoskeleton like another ancient Mattel product, Major Matt Mason ('70s vintage also). So they look a lot more lifelike than the bog standard Barbie; the rest of the anatomical improvements were achieved with selective incisions (labia majora and mouth) and tinted silly putty (nippled & vulva).

My ideas came from the old SM loops and extreme SM/sex films of the '70s. A whole bunch of photo sets involve vaginal stabbing, something suggested to me by one of the classic rants of rad feminist snuff-moral-panic-meisters of the '80s, a photo set reportedly run in a 1979 (?) issue of Chic Magazine called Columbine Cuts Up in which a blonde chick masturbates with a kitchen knife. I've always wanted to get my hands on that photo set -- has anyone here ever seen it in the flesh? I confess I am beginning to think it's another urban myth alongside Snuff out of which the same interest group got so much mileage until the thing was debunked. If it does exist, perhaps folk stateside might try rumaging the back-issue bins or suchlike post scans somewhere?

Of course, the first of the Fantom Killer flicks has some vaginal stabbing but it's not explicit -- which is odd considering the same film has an explicit scene of anal penetration with a wooden spoon.

I suppose PPP is where I create a loose approximate to the kind of extreme SM hardcore I'd like to create if I was a film producer -- but I'm not so I settle for doing the dolls. And it's fun, I get some great feedback (no one's ever called it 'audacious' before, but perhaps it is and that's a great way to look at it). I'm still uploading a backlog of sets done over the last little while -- the latest one, an au pair getting raped which ends very badly for her just went up, and I'm pulling together a very long and complex one about an amazon chick in a swordfight but that will take ages to get together yet. Most sets run 60-150 pics (a few are 200 -- I guess it must be well over a thousand pics by now but that kind of snuck up on me over the months), but the raw photographic take on this one is 730 shots which I expect to boil down to about three hundred or so. So much inspiration, so little time.

For the geographical straw poll, I am indeed based in the UK.

Zoom,

A barefoot female is trapped in an enclosed area (cage, torture cell, etc). The floor of the torture cell is then electrified, causing her to hop and dance frantically in an attempt to avoid the shocks to her bare feet. A variation could also be making the floor red hot.

If anyone knows of any videos or movies out there that have a similiar scene, PLEASE post or email me!!

Oh, and I already know of the Cat's Eye movie scene. I saw that when I was 12 and I was hooked! I love this form of torment, even though finding material on it is very tough.

PS Any video producers out there that want to make a scene like this, please do! It's very original and there are plenty of foot torment enthusiasts out there that would L O V E this sort of a scene!

One must realise that our "hobby" is considered extremely Taboo by the public in general, in these times of "political correctness" (something which seems to be prevalent in English speaking countries with particularity!) I know some of my friends & acquaintances would completely end their friendship if I admitted to having watched something as innocent and trivial as "Debbie Does Dallas", let alone a ZFX psycho-sexual thriller...well that would brand me as sick, perverted and even monstrous, and 'serial killer'material who should be institutionalized.... So, it's great to be able to 'open up'honestly on a post, such as this....what would Sigmund Freud think?

I never used to be much into erotic artwork, but the more I've had a chance to sample it, the more I can really appreciate how far you can go with art, which makes it okay for me since it is just artwork and not real life, like Howie mentioned in one of his posts. I did get a chance to sample The Drawing Palace for a few days, and I was in hog heaven. I didn't get to download as much as I would have liked, mainly because I didn't have high speed back then. But they have incredible stuff by some of the bondage artists on the net. Gary Roberts, Fernando, Badia, Roc, Hines, G-Man, Zell, and a whole bunch more.

One warning, their stuff is pretty extreme. A lot of hard torture pics, most of which are so harsh that I rarely even post any of them here because it might offend some GIMPers. Hard to believe I'm saying that, but it's true. Artwork that shows women having powerdrills forced into their pussies or having their tits sliced with a knife, stuff like that. To me, it's art, and not real, so anything goes as far as the artist's imagination will take it.

The subject of artwork gets me thinking. Some years ago, I posted a drawing on the board that showed a bound woman about to get her feet chopped off by a guy wielding a butcher knife. To me it was an innocent picture that only implied a threat, but I think it was zee-ef-ex that took me to task about the subject matter, complaining that anything that showed or implied dismemberment was a turnoff for him. Then I think it was last year, I posted an actual photo from The Torture Galaxy of a woman with a few skewers though her tits, with a little blood shown, too. Man, the reactions we got from that! It was about 50/50 I think, those who liked it and those that didn't. Nothing brings out the comments like pushing a fantasy too far...people just have to put in their two cents worth.

Sometimes I get tempted to really push the envelope and throw something really rough up there just to see what people will say. I have very few limits in what I like, but I know some of you do. I've deliberately left some of my favorite artists and artworks off this board because of that. Even Damian, whom I know Duke admires, but I usually have a hard time finding one of his works that is GIMP-friendly. His stuff can get kind of bloody.

But what the heck, let's hear what people have to say. I'm going to post links to a few pictures, and even though I like them a lot, I consider them too rough for even the pervs and sickos who read this board...or are they?

Look at your own risk...you've been warned.

Hines

G-Man

Damian

Roc

Now...would you want to see more of this stuff posted here, or is it too hard, too gross, too offensive? This is your board, so sound off.

Ralphus, I reviewed the pics on your last post. I had no trouble with “Hines”. “Damian” and “Roc”, I could take or leave. But I really did not like the “G-Man” pic. It was a little over the top for me. I have really liked the comic drawings of the series you are running now.

On the points that Thees makes-- I agree that the english speaking world has demonised our tastes and it is a truly taboo area. Interestingly, in Japan, not only are there acres of forced sex material in the sex-shops, but mags showing graphic forced/rape photo stories can be bought in any drugstore. I have seen respectable business men reading these mags openly on the Japan metro. Does anyone have any insight into the reasons for this cultural divide?

Among the people who read this board, J told me that he used to live in Japan for a while. I recall him saying that he used to be able to go to theaters and watch bondage films on the big screen there. Pretty cool, huh? Maybe he can give us more of an insight as to why their culture thinks the way they do, or at least what's it's like to live there. Care to indulge the board, J?

Maybe what we need in the States is less repression and a more open attitude about tying up women. Maybe our sex crimes would go down, too. They are probably too busy to rape women in Japan because they spend all their time watching women get raped at the movies :)

If you look at host countries for BDSM websites, I think the US dominates (though that may also be due to our economic position in the world) with a plethora of sites like Insex, CyberNet (Hogtied, etc), Dan-Hawke, Dave Darke, Andy Adler, etc. You have some good European sites, like TortureGalaxy (Czech, I think), PhantomBondage (UK), etc. and a ton from Japan, of course, but how many sites from Latin countries, African countries, Arabic countries, or Oriental countries other than Japan do you see?

Come on guys - sure it's a battle to keep our liberties, but for the time being, we pervs have it pretty good here in the States. I think all this discussion on the intolerance of the States misses the point that most other countries are much less tolerant. Sure, this isn't the most tolerant country in the world, but it ranks pretty high, IMHO.

My two cents.

I did live in Japan for about three years and visited many times over the years. I found the place fascinating and, yes, it was, and still is, possible to watch S&M flicks in the neighborhood theater.

What I observed is that the Japanese have a kind of dual personality when it comes to all things sexual. There is the public personality of monogamy, modesty and missionary sex, but then there is also the recognition that particularly men have the need for other indulgences. They recognize the need to satisfy those indulgences and have a whole industry devoted to it.

No doubt their religion plays into their behavior. They haven't had 2000 years of guilt about sex hammered into them. Additionally, women were, and to some extent still are, secondary in their society. Finally what we know as Japan was born from a very violent past. Much of today's Shibari bondage originated from torture techniques and prisoner control methods of long ago.

I can tell you that in Japan S&M establishments exist where a man can rent a girl for a few hours and have his way with her. Love Hotels abound, that cater to S&M with rooms ranging from medieval dungeons to modern clinics. Sex wise Tokyo may be the most wide open city on the planet. Now before everyone books reservations to Tokyo, consider this, the Japanese do not often allow foreigners (gaijin) to avail themselves of these services, although I think that is beginning to lessen. Its also damned expensive.

Hope I was able to offer something useful.

Gimpers this place (Japan, that is) is amazing a true Gimpers paradise, Rope Bondage, sex with powertools and robots, Rape Comix or should I say Manga?, Porno Anime, strange fetishes like 'Plastic wrapped girls covered in soap suds', vomit fetish, extreme brutal binding (I saw one videotitle 'Mummified in barbed wire' (I think Death Metallers Cannibal Corpse have a song with the same name), These people are very interesting I can see why us Germans chose really chose them as their allies in WW2.

I read Gimper J's reply to Red Ded about Japan and he's right, to many Japanese the Sex and Torture seem to be inextricably linked and nothing to feel ashamed about.

....anyway, I was telling you about Japan, very true, the Japanese are a more ancient peoples, they've been around longer than us Europeans, refining arts of pleasure such as the Tea Ceremony or the subtle art of 'binding' while our ancestors were mining coal in Silesia and surviving hand to mouth, they have devoid of the simplistic views of Christianity and its guilt ridden disciplines. However their highly structured and formalized society almost to the point of being rituallistically "suffocating", makes allowances for "diversions" which in the 'West' would be seen as human abominations.....here everything goes as long as you are polite to each other at the end of the day.

If any Gimpers are interested, read about 'Shinto', which is neither faith nor philosophy, but encompasses the true art and essence of being 'Japanese'.

For a story with great (albeit) gruesome gimp sexual torture and humiliation - (PPP) come to life -- see the link on the homepage URL above. Now imagine someone like Roberts and/or Templeton making about 50 to 100 pictures supporting the story.

Too bad that doesn't work with bondage movies, huh? Maybe in the future we'll have interactive DVDs where you can "choose your own adventure". The next best thing to actually doing it!

I used to havve a wallet full of japanese video store membership cards. Every time I visited a new city I went on a "walking tour" to find all the video stores. One clarification to the question. As far as I can tell the concept of "pornography" doesn't exist in Japan. You get your S&M videos at the same places you get Disney.

They do have megastores like our Blockbusters or Hollywood, but also lots of mom and pop places too. Its fun to look around and find the out of the way places since they sometimes have stuff less mainstream.

Good news; I have finally ordered a computer of my own, I will have it delivered to me the first week of May and I will have my Internet installed the upcoming weekend.

Now I can surf the web free of any fear that someone discovering porn on my computer (previously, I was using my company's laptop and constantly had to delete all my files--fortunately, my company had a pretty lenient personal computer use policy, and I resigned from the company late last year for totally unrelated reasons). Anyway, I will be able to be more involved in the forums on this board and not have to worry about kids looking over my shoulder (i.e. the library)

Anyway, I will be looking for GIMP-oriented websites. Where should I go in the archives to look for discussion on such websites (I know this is a FAQ so I will just peruse the archives rather than re-initiate the discussion)?

Thanks for your help. I'll be back soon.

I often read this bulletin board. The ideas to Japan posting here are just the one aspect of Japan which is exaggerated amusingly. It is the very superficial view of Japanese culture and society, and showing only quite a few special examples.

Someone is describing that a molester act was done as if every guy was doing in the crowded train. Every man thinks of nothing shameful to read sex magazine in public. I sure assert that these descriptions are definitely wrong. A queer man is in any country. In our country, shame and reliance are respected mostly. A molester act is a criminal act and is punished severely. It is wrong to mention a small number of men's act as an example, and to describe that Japanese society is like this. The view to religion of Japan is also very insufficient. There is Buddhism other than Shintoism in Japan, and Buddhism is a very deep religion, and Most of Japanese don't believe in Shinto.

If anyone likes saran wrap, here's a mainstream set using it outdoors with a post. Not particularly fetishistic, just some basic artistic erotica like you might find in Pby. That's a great site for free mainstream porn, fwiw -- hardcore (separate area), amateur, voyeur, celebrity and artistic, all mixed in. Lots of stuff from a number of sites like twistys and hegre-archives. Each thumbnail links to a page of varying numbers of pix.

Certainly our observations about Japan were not intended to denigrate the Japanese. On the contrary I read them as compliments to your mature society.

No one is suggesting that gangs of wild-eyed men with coils of rope roam the streets just looking for women to bind and torture. But you do have to admit your sex industry can, and does, cater to almost any sexual fantasy one can imagine.

I do like the way the Japanese create movie scenes of humiliation for erotic purposes. You know a scene is effective when you don't understand a word that is being said but the humiliation of the woman in the scene is still very powerful.

On another note, BBFan is right about the U.S. of A. and the freedoms you enjoy. Even though the U.S. is currently led by political leaders with heavy Christian leanings, the reality is that the U.S. still places a strong emphasis on individual liberties. In Canada, the opposite is true. Our political leaders are mostly secular -- Canadians don't tend to like leaders who are too religous. Yet, despite their secular leanings, our governments run a nanny state that is always interfering in people's lives.

In the short term, I don't see the obscenity laws in Canada being overturned anytime soon. The government's response to any legal challenge seems to be to keep running up the court costs, so that any challenge ultimately becomes too expensive.

I have no reason to believe that site is not a huge Internet scam, unless I hear words to the contrary. Order at your own risk.

I'm loving all the responses we're getting regarding what life is like in Japan. It truly sounds like a completely different world from the one I know. Red Ded's observation that you can buy magazines with graphic rape photo stories at a drugstore sounds a lot like when Vince was describing how you could buy rape novels at New York sweetshops not so long ago. Of course, that was before the air of political correctness censorship took over New York under Guiliani's reign and swept through the rest of the US as well, especially since Bush has been in office.

But hey, like it's been pointed out, things aren't as severely restricted here as they are in other countries, where even our neighbor to the North, Canada, has made it illegal to buy bondage films. Amazing.

A Canadian: You earlier posted that in Canada, a judge's ruling was upcoming that was dealing with the province's censor board. Whatever became of that? Judging from your last post, it doesn't sound positive.

Getting back to Japan, about the only thing I know about them for sure is that their own bondage videos are much, much harder than what we get here in the States. Compare a ZFX vid, which have been criticized by our own adult industry as being too harsh (read realistic), to one made by Cinemagic or Attackers. ZFX produces skillfully made simulations. Rick's films are not unlike theatrical horror films, only with more adult themes. No one is really being raped, no one is really being zapped with electrical shocks. The whippings are nowhere near as painful as they look.

But then look at what the Japanese do in their movies. The girls are screaming their heads off because they really are being tortured. The whips are real. The candle wax the guy is covering her body with is burning hot. That's a real shock machine, and those firecrackers being taped to their bodies are not special effects. And even if the genitals are blurred, it's pretty obvious these chicks are getting raped. They probably signed a contract and they're getting paid, but that only makes it legal. I have little doubt that nearly everything you see in a Japanese bondage vid is really happening. The girls may be good actresses, but when I see tears in their eyes, I believe them. And that's why Japan makes the best bondage films in the world.

With that in mind, I also believe J's contention that in Japan, women are thought of as second-class citizens. I'm not saying that's the right way of thinking, but again, compare it to our culture. In the US, people would be up in arms if even one movie came out that glorified violence against women, but in Japan, there are several companies that produce hundreds of these movies a year and apparently it's perfectly acceptable. And if these films weren't popular, they wouldn't keep making them. So interpret that as you may, but it sure makes me want to go to Japan, at least to visit. It sounds like a GIMPer's equivalent to Disneyland. Or maybe I should say Fantasyland :)

That site doesn't work. It requires javascript, which like cookies and Active X and similar garbage is reprehensible web design.

zee-ef-ex

The teaser trailer is up, and I gotta say, this one does look damn good so far. Go check it out and take a look: http://www.forbiddenvideo.com/comein.htm

First impression: God, she is a babe, all right. Very sexy bod, cute face, long, blonde hair. Unfortunately, she also has a tattoo on her shoulder (ugh!), but otherwise perfect, looks-wise. And the bondage looks good, too. Even a duct tape gag, my favorite. Bondage rape, clothespin abuse, electricity torture...good to see. Definitely looks rougher than Moved to Tears.

Hard to say about her acting ability. The last line she says in the trailer doesn't make her sound real convincingly frightened, but it's hard to tell from just one line. There's also a bunch of caps here:

http://www.forbiddenvideo.com/videoimages/snapcaps.htm

So what do people think? Worth getting excited about? Let's not all talk all at once, guys.

zee-ef-ex

The story is a bit confusing to explain, but essentially the Ontario government -- which lost a court case last year about the censor board -- was back in court asking for more time to set new legislation for a revised censor board. The judge granted that motion last week and new legislation is likely to be passed.

The censor board will no longer have the power to ban mainstream movies, but the government said it will still ban adult movies that are "degrading." In Canada, that mostly means bondage movies.

The gay bookstore that initially won the legal fight is pledging to continue the legal challenges, but these cases are expensive.

On another note, the AP wire moved a story today that said one-third of the married couples in Japan haven't had sex for at least a month. According to the story, which is based on a study by some family-planning group, almost one in five married couples in Japan haven't had sex for at least a year.

I thought this quote from the news story was particularly interesting:

"The study said timidity was a major factor, citing the reluctance in Japan to talk about sex openly, despite a culture awash with outward displays of sex such as pornography."

I remember watching a program on Japanese TV, in which a 'famous Rope-master" of the arts of bondage was interviewed live on a "Talk-Show" or , he had a couple of very attractive female 'assistants' to demonstrate his Rope skills and was treated by the show host and the public with the kind of reverence reserved for Artists, Writers, Musicians or Academics.-- simply amazing!!

Anyone, who is interested in Japan, watch the film "Lost in Translation" starring Bill Murray...just shows you how bizarre and outlandish this place is to our 'euro-centric,western' way of thinking..., also worth watching for the delicious co-star Scarlett Johannson, one babe I would love to see tied up in an ZFX production!

Here's the URL again to download the trailer: http://www.forbiddenvideo.com/comein.htm

Let's try to get people talking. Flash poll:

What did you think of the preview trailer for SNAP ?

A) Damn, looks good; I should order it

B) I'll wait until I hear some reviews before I take a chance on ordering

C) Looks okay, but I dunno about that ugly chick in the lead

D) This is Forbidden Video, no way

E) I'm a lazy asshole who can't even take 2 minutes to share my opinion with others

Once again, I feel the need to remind all of you that your contributions are what make this forum great. Everyone needs to participate. Certainly all of you should have an opinion, one way or another. Posting is easy, so let's hear from you. Don't let this forum die.

Yes, SNAP is finally available after a few delays (can read about it in my news updates) - and its probably our hardest ever, right next to Trick Or Treat 2. I even uploaded a brand new trailer today, version 2 which is much better.

I even have a few surprises I had to keep out of the trailer as they were too harsh for a free public page.

Its being uploaded to the server as I type this so any member can go download it in about 1 hour.

I have a new rule. I am only casting HOT girls from now on for all of my Dark Side productions. This girl was very cute. I'm proud of this one and I took some notes from reviews of Moved To Tears and made sure to include things that you guys, here on the gimp board like.

Im sending Ralphus a DVD this week so he can write a full review. Also, dont let the 1st trailer fool you with the acting of the girl. That was taken from a different scene, in the beginning of the movie. She does a hell of as job once the guy "SNAPS" with her acting. Screams, kicks, its all here.

Its about an hour long. So go check out the new trailer I uploaded this morning, it includes more of what you are looking for but also remember, there are MANY more scenes in the movie that I couldnt even add to the trailer or the caps.

DVD ships Friday to all who have ordered already.

Have fun!

Steve

I'm in the middle of projects and can't upgrade past Quicktime 5 at this time--so can't view or comment on the trailer.

Looking forward to a review.

There'll probably be more of a buzz and more discussion when people have seen the DVD.

Re - Ralphus april 20 post about art: I like Damian's photo composite/realism/painting style a lot, but all four art images in the post were a tad too harsh for me.

On "Snap", well, it looks pretty good, atractive model (tats don't bother me), bondage looks a little loose-- But, it's Forbbidden, so I won't bother until I see three favorable reviews (not on their site, independant reviews).

Glad the run of Thorn art is over, fat guys and pudgy teens don't do that much for me. Got any Preston art to run for a couple of days?

BTW, tried to get Darling to do a custom for me, sent details last week & haven't heard back from her yet.

I'm not really into spanking at all, but whipping, especially with the girl tied up, I'm interested. Especially after buying Martial Law after Bruno reviewed it on the board...that was a very good vid, even if overpriced.

Likewise, these DVDs translate to about $60 US, once again awfully pricey. The one I'm considering is The Pioneers, but they have a few titles that look somewhat promising.

Bruno, g-in-o, anyone? They have reviews on their page, but they read like press releases (this guy thinks everything is outstanding). I can't really believe reviews in which everything gets praised and nothing negative gets mentioned. Sort of throws objectivity out the window.

Baronorca: Which one is Darling again? I didn't see any pictures of her on your group. What are you planning to do to her? Too bad you didn't cast Cherish; I like her.

I don't have many Preston pics in my collection, and I usually resist running them since his stuff is pretty harsh, but what the hell. Maybe after this Quoom series is done.

Baronorca, did you use the "submissivedarling" email or her yahoo email? Drop me a note - I'm in contact with her. Working on organizing a custom myself.

The first part consists mainly of fantasy sequences but the second half really takes off. It is really an extended rape with bondage but very well done. I particularly liked the convincing way the transition from one bondage position to another was achieved. The spreadeagle between sliding doors was a position I haven't come across before but looked particularly effective. The sex whilst she was tied over the saw-horse was great, just a pity that after shoving his finger up her arse so much he didn't get to finally bugger her.

My only quibbles were that on two occasions he used strangulation to render his victim unconscious, hardly to be recommended as either safe or reliable. Similarly using mains electricity to attempt to revive her seemed a bit risky (or is it just that the voltage is different here in Britain). The final twist took me completely by surprise though I may not bother with that bit next time I watch.

In conclusion a really excellent effort and I look forward to further releases from Forbidden.

I'm excited about getting a chance to see it myself. With only one new ZFX release a year, I'm glad there are some alternative choices out there, and hopefully Forbidden and others can continue to fill the void.

Movie opens with a sexy blonde prison guard, wearing an olive green uniform and knee high, black boots walking back and forth as if contemplating what to do with herself, she is holding a billy club in her hand. Finally it dawns on her that it is a little lesbian activity that she is on her mind. The blonde enters the cell of a fairly cute brunette inmate, who is lying on your typical prison cot. It is apparent that the prisoner is not happy to see the guard and tries to move away, but the guard grabs her, pushes the inmates skirt up above her white panties and uses the baton to spread the prisoners legs, then uses the baton and her hands to fondle the prisoners crotch.

Having none of this, the prisoner kicks her away and immediately the blonde handcuffs the prisoners hands behind her back and whisks her away to a male guard, obviously the one in charge. The blonde lies about the incident, informing the captain that the prisoner was insubordinate, not mentioning that she attempted to molest her. The captain doesn't like this and pushes the brunette belly down over a table and cuffs her wrists to the far end, then pushes her skirt up, fully exposing her buttocks, as well as the slit between her legs. The captain first whips her with a strap, maybe 3 inches wide, the brunette responds to each stroke with a moan, the blonde guard is watching.

The male then spreads the brunette's legs and ties them to the table legs, her clit even more visible now. The captain then uses a springy whip (rod), she screams nice, he takes a few time outs to fondle her ass, spraying it with a clear liquid. He switches to a cane, the brunette screaming, her ass now streaked and bloody, shinny wet with the liquid. When finished, the blonde takes the prisoner back to her cell.

Then the captain discovers that the blonde had tried to molest the brunette and he doesn't care for this either, so it is the blondes turn now. He strips her from the waist up, she has a nice pair of breasts, he cuffs her wrists above her head, she now standing in the black boots, he whips her across her bare back for a while, she responds with screams. Then he cuffs her to the table, as was the brunette, her ass is nice for whipping, she still wearing the boots. He first uses a whip with several tails, then a cane, until she is well stripped, she screams out loud, some close ups of her face, covered with tears are shown. Her clit is always clearly shown and he also uses the liquid on her scorched butt.

The movie has English subtitles. I hate to rate moves as my tastes are so much different from most. I probably didn't like it quite as much as Martial Law, mainly because I enjoyed the blonde in ML so much. I will say that I believe the whipping movies from Pain4Fem and their sister companies are better than most.

When I have time, I will review "Rival Girls" from www.mood-pictures.com/movies.php I will also review another whipping movie I have that I think is worthwhile but can't remember the title off the top of my head.

Rival Girls has a sweet-looking blonde in it, too (the same girl as in Martial Law?) but I looked at the trailer and it looks like they don't even tie her up. Nutso. Bondage is really the key to a film like this. I refuse to go for any movie where they voluntarily lay there and let someone wail away at them. Just makes no sense to me.

I was going to check out the Insex DVDs, but ebay wanted details on my credit card that I didn't feel like providing. You would think they would already have my credit information, since I have been using Paypal for years.

I am curious, though -- how often would items of interest to GIMPers show up on ebay?

eBay used to be a great place to find bondage, rape and torture vids; key word being used to be. The past several years, eBay has imposed ridiculous restrictions on selling and buying adult product, and on bondage product especially, ending auctions for content violations seemingly at will, with no warnings and no explanations afterward. Even though their section clearly states you must be an adult to view the items being sold, you can no longer advertise your product with adult pictures or even descriptions. Even a seemingly innocuous picture showing a girl tied up can get your auction ended. Mentioning the word "rape" on anything in the Mature section will get you disqualified every time. "Torture", pretty much the same result. To demonstrate, I went to eBay just now and clicked on "Mature" then "Video" then "Fetish". 1123 items there, then we break it down. Check for "torture": zero. Check for "rape"; once again nothing.

So, I tried the same thing for DVD. A check on Mature, then Fetish, then DVD produces 2790 results. And in that category, zero for rape, zero for torture. Pretty consistent.

I'm not saying there are no movies there that GIMPers would like, but how can anyone find them? You have to tone down your descriptions so much that you can't get any details, and you're only allowed one picture and it can't be explicit at all. I gave up on using eBay for buying or selling finding adult stuff almost completely; it's been years since I've even tried. They won't answer e-mails when I try to work within their narrow guidelines, and have no phone number for anyone to contact them. They are clearly not bondage friendly, and they seem proud of that distinction. Their merge with PayPal, another company that censors adult material with little or no respect for their paying customers, is a perfect match made in the depths of hell. I have no respect for either company. They can both kiss my ass.

Actually GIMPERs can find all sorts of stuff on EBay. Here's how:

Search on 'bondage' under DVD. It's pretty much the standard phrase that can still be used on ebay. You'll get a crapload of stuff from about 2-3 of the same people. Most of the old HOM stuff is available and the transfers aren't that bad. When you get sick of seeing the same stuff week after week, you can filter out the spamming auctions by picking a phrase that is part of the boilerplate of the auctioneer. For example, one guy tends to put up a few hundred auctions of the same cheap, bootlegged junk, week after week. And every auction mentions that often a stock photo is use to represent the film.

So make your search [bondage -"to represent the film"]. This makes it pretty easy to search ebay periodically for the stuff you want.

I've bought a lot of good stuff on ebay.

Also, in case it has not been mentioned, www.adultdvdempire.com has a fairly decent bondage selection for rental. Service and turnaround rate is nowhere near as good as netflix, but at 17.99 for 3 DVDs it's a good deal.

BlueDog

I was looking for a full sleeve front zippered PVC catsuit (found one and it's being shipped from England--all the good fetish clothing was from England). Good price tho!

Went out to the strip clubs tonite, seeded a few good looking dancers with $10 tips and my photographers business card-- who knows, may get lucky Talked for a while with two dancers (roommates one Asian, one black, both yummy).

At the second club. I found Cherish (she's done two shoots for me), she was looking great and promised to get back with me later.

Good news, the tattoo & piercing fad seems ending (at least judging by the dancers I saw tonite (then again this is Montana)

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