Fantasy vs Real Torture in Prison and Interrogation

[theroughman]

I like to start the following discussion.

What do you think, is there a difference between our fantasies of the Interrogation and torture of women in real life in torture prisons and Interrogation situations?
We would torture the woman in a mostly sexual way, i think. Like beating their pussy, tits, butt, squeezing the tits, putting objects deep in pussy, brutal enema in pussy, electric torture of the pussy, pliers on the labia and clit and gang rape them repeatedly for hours till they suffer in pain deep in the pussy and cervix from the rape, deepthroat them, slap in the face, boxing their cunt and belly and beating the whole body again and again. And that's for hours every day for weeks.

But: in real life torture i often hear that they tortured by breaking bones, cutting, stabbing, burning and high voltage electrical torture and so on. And they die early from the torture.

And if torture in real life goes like in our fantasy, in which country, situations and what year could it happen? Maybe in south America or Russia or where? Maybe private torture in snuff films in Mexico or rich men with bought girls from Eastern Europe like Romania...?

And final question, what artists featuring sexual torture and rape with visibility of erected cocks, cum shots and visible pussies in their art? And maybe already AI interrogation & torture videos available?

[Edukator]

For many obvious reasons REAL torture methods in prisons and (political) detention centers is not well documented and since we don't have access to the internal files of organizations like Amnesty Int'l or APT, etc... we can only speculate. There are many historical works and books about this topic but not always reliable or accurate sources, as are many "real" testimonies very often biased exagerated or distorted (especially WWII testimonies). Don't expect to find many pictures or films about this gloomy sinister topic (and t's better like that). I'd guess that REAL torture was much more brutal and very often life-threatening, and (most of the time) NOT sexually-oriented. Many historians have found that tortures commonly practiced by the inquisition during the XVIII century was NEVER sexually-oriented and women's decency respected (I feel you all disappointed !) , and very likely more like this:


The XVIIIth century popularized a bloody and violent view of the Inquisition courts. However, torture was actually a means of pressure belonging to a precise legal procedure. It was used both by secular and ecclesiastical justice and aimed at obtaining a confession -the ultimate piece of evidence- through psychological and physical ways. The inquisitors controlled the use of torture while leaving secular justice with the unpleasant task of shedding blood. The defendants were « stripped of their clothes », and exhibited in the torture chamber, but their decency was eventually respected by letting them wear a hose. Women’s decency especially restricted the use of torture. The mere threat of being stripped often made it possible to obtain a confession without any other form of violence.

[yyy02]

I like to start the following discussion.

What do you think, is there a difference between our fantasies of the Interrogation and torture of women in real life in torture prisons and Interrogation situations?

Take this with a grain of salt, as it is coming from a mostly vanilla GIMP member whose likes don’t often venture to the Dark Side (wulf, frog, JD, etc.).

Women are very tough and can deal with a lot of pain, but the likelihood that a woman would last for weeks, enduring horrific torture is not realistic.

And they die early from the torture.
Yes, dying is a realistic end to even hours (not weeks) of sustained torture

And if torture in real life goes like in our fantasy...
What years?
Sky is the limit, with scenarios ranging from the Medieval to Science Fiction (I like the Holodeck myself, anything and everything is possible).

South America? Perhaps, especially with the drug trade folks, but not likely. It’s interesting to note that the Inquisition covers northern Italy and southern France, with the Spanish Inquisition having its own bloody history.
Not Russia, I don’t think. Maybe the former Soviet bloc countries with kidnapped Eastern European beauties?
Maybe in Africa, with limited cases?
I think the most obvious locale/situation would be Mexico with the Cartels. Unimaginable cruelty, utter disregard for human life and even decency.
One of my fantasies is that girls are tortured, with the torture being documented on camera and posted to the Dark Web, just for entertainment. Yes, snuff films, like PKF.

And current producers... For Europe (and me) it has to be Cruel World and Electric City Productions. There was a single Chinese (?) based SM film producer, I don't know if they're still active.
AI? Definitely Electric City Productions is counting on it, and doing quite well.
Pedro of ElitePain has a niche thing going on, but its not really torture, as we like to think of it. Kind of more fetish based, as is the case with Miss Belle.
Also bakerboy, but he's more Feature Film based, to his credit.
In North America, maybe Kink (though I haven't been there in awhile as they got kind of weird), Insex, Dungeoncorp, and PKF, with other various smaller producers on Nicheclips and maybe deadsexyclips?

As always, the credit card companies rule with an iron fist and really dictate what you can and can't sell. But that's kind of/sort of of a good thing, as the web is out of control in a lot of ways.
That’s my .02.
Sorry for the long post.

[hornythumb]

I like to start the following discussion.

What do you think, is there a difference between our fantasies of the Interrogation and torture of women in real life in torture prisons and Interrogation situations?

Take this with a grain of salt, as it is coming from a mostly vanilla GIMP member whose likes don’t often venture to the Dark Side (wulf, frog, JD, etc.).

Women are very tough and can deal with a lot of pain, but the likelihood that a woman would last for weeks, enduring horrific torture is not realistic.

And they die early from the torture.
Yes, dying is a realistic end to even hours (not weeks) of sustained torture

And if torture in real life goes like in our fantasy...
What years?
Sky is the limit, with scenarios ranging from the Medieval to Science Fiction (I like the Holodeck myself, anything and everything is possible).

South America? Perhaps, especially with the drug trade folks, but not likely. It’s interesting to note that the Inquisition covers northern Italy and southern France, with the Spanish Inquisition having its own bloody history.
Not Russia, I don’t think. Maybe the former Soviet bloc countries with kidnapped Eastern European beauties?
Maybe in Africa, with limited cases?
I think the most obvious locale/situation would be Mexico with the Cartels. Unimaginable cruelty, utter disregard for human life and even decency.
One of my fantasies is that girls are tortured, with the torture being documented on camera and posted to the Dark Web, just for entertainment. Yes, snuff films, like PKF.

And current producers... For Europe (and me) it has to be Cruel World and Electric City Productions. There was a single Chinese (?) based SM film producer, I don't know if they're still active.
AI? Definitely Electric City Productions is counting on it, and doing quite well.
Pedro of ElitePain has a niche thing going on, but its not really torture, as we like to think of it. Kind of more fetish based, as is the case with Miss Belle.
Also bakerboy, but he's more Feature Film based, to his credit.
In North America, maybe Kink (though I haven't been there in awhile as they got kind of weird), Insex, Dungeoncorp, and PKF, with other various smaller producers on Nicheclips and maybe deadsexyclips?

As always, the credit card companies rule with an iron fist and really dictate what you can and can't sell. But that's kind of/sort of of a good thing, as the web is out of control in a lot of ways.
That’s my .02.
Sorry for the long post.

" a mostly vanilla GIMP member"
Yeah, Pedro, Belle, Lupus punish instead of torture, but Christ it hurt likes hell. Its for real, no acting. Maybe most fantasy torture, which is sustained, is performance.

Very thought remarks. Cheers HT

[letvor]

I like to start the following discussion.

This is a great topic!

A long time ago I wrote a post about the Ukrainian journalist who was captured by Russian forces. The girl was tortured to death, and the injuries on her body differ depending on the source.

Some say her ribs were broken and there were signs of beating. Others claim her eyes and parts of her brain were removed. A third group says she was tortured with electricity.

On top of all that — she was pretty cute.



Photo description: A colleague of Ukrainian journalist Victoria Roshchyna holds a photograph of her during an event in honor of her memory in Kyiv, on October 11, 2024. (source - CNN)

This girl was tortured by professionals (probably the FSB), with the intention of extracting certain intelligence from her. It’s clear that someone like me wouldn’t torture her the same way. To me, she would be nothing more than a toy — a piece of meat.

And yeah… after I’m done, the body would never be found.

You can find more about this somewhere in letvor's Cave.

[Edukator]

I like to start the following discussion.

This is a great topic!

A long time ago I wrote a post about the Ukrainian journalist who was captured by Russian forces. The girl was tortured to death, and the injuries on her body differ depending on the source.

Some say her ribs were broken and there were signs of beating. Others claim her eyes and parts of her brain were removed. A third group says she was tortured with electricity.

On top of all that — she was pretty cute.



Photo description: A colleague of Ukrainian journalist Victoria Roshchyna holds a photograph of her during an event in honor of her memory in Kyiv, on October 11, 2024. (source - CNN)

This girl was tortured by professionals (probably the FSB), with the intention of extracting certain intelligence from her. It’s clear that someone like me wouldn’t torture her the same way. To me, she would be nothing more than a toy — a piece of meat.

And yeah… after I’m done, the body would never be found.

You can find more about this somewhere in letvor's Cave.

"Some say, other claim..."
There's no way to ascertain the authenticity of such "informations" , could be also some war (anti-Russian) propaganda.

[yyy02]

...Yeah, Pedro, Belle, Lupus punish instead of torture, but Christ it hurt likes hell. Its for real, no acting. Maybe most fantasy torture, which is sustained, is performance.

Agreed, to both items.

There is some discomfort to the bondage, and also the "treatments", which I feel the girls have to be tough and get acclimated to. No shrinking violets!
The more limber/flexible the girl is (ala Lora Cross, Cry), the further the rigger can push them, with more convincing results.
And Alex coaches them, to a certain degree, as far as Cruel World goes. I'm sure all the producers do, especially as novices to the niche.

[hornythumb]

...Yeah, Pedro, Belle, Lupus punish instead of torture, but Christ it hurt likes hell. Its for real, no acting. Maybe most fantasy torture, which is sustained, is performance.

Agreed, to both items.

There is some discomfort to the bondage, and also the "treatments", which I feel the girls have to be tough and get acclimated to. No shrinking violets!
The more limber/flexible the girl is (ala Lora Cross, Cry), the further the rigger can push them, with more convincing results.
And Alex coaches them, to a certain degree, as far as Cruel World goes. I'm sure all the producers do, especially as novices to the niche.

Belle might be the only quality harsh punisher in business. Lost touch with Pedro and Lupus is long gone. As for Nuwest, RIP Ed.

Well coached ladies with tough leathery butts and tits are now standard.

God some of Pedro's stuff was brutal, eh?

[theroughman]

please, no femdom nonsense in my thread. thanks

[Ed2]

From all I've read about torture - a lot over decades - real torture sessions were grimy and brutal with fists and domination rape being the primary tools. Medieval torture chambers were ghastly, dank, filthy, the stench of excrement overwhelming. As mentioned, most religion-based tortures did not feature nudity. The vast majority of victims were older, uglier, fatter, and male. NOT erotic at all. Although, while rare exceptions, there likely were some men in positions of power able to indulge their sadistic lusts, whether set in medieval, Inquisition, Nazi, Stasi, Chilian secret police, etc. events. Believing they could exist gives free rein to imagination.

Fortunately for me, there is fantasy which provides me with lurid settings and reasons for the torment, the ability to just ignore the smells and foulness I don't like, beautiful young women with sexy bodies, and any endurance to the torment I choose to give them. The same categories, (Nazi, Inquisition) provide specific fantasy frameworks recognized by the community as individual sadism sub-genres. Over time many, many authors and artists fleshed out tropes that fit the different ones.

I must throw in with yyy2 here, give me a working Star Trek holodeck and I'd die a worn out but happy man. What's funny to me is that, I personally, am a very gentle man, the last fist I threw in anger was 5th grade. Yet my fantasies are incredibly vicious and sexual. Frankly, I don't want realism. I prefer art to photos depicting the cruelty I imagine, things I would eagerly do in a holodeck or see illustrated through CGI, I couldn't watch if it was a real girl.