Experimenting with Stable Diffusion

[LLL]

Yeah, it's a study for a new Melissa image. In the Melissa story, the guy whipping her from the front first ties her ankles behind the pole, which causes her to hang from her wrists as she can't stand on her feet. This pose is difficult to obtain by prompting a model. I managed to get the pose right for the first Melissa image by editing a Controlnet image by hand. I'm experimenting with a different approach for close-up images where I don't have to show the pose below the knees, but the image still needs to look right. In this image you can tell by the pose that the girl is standing on her feet, so I can't use it for the Melissa story. I thought the result still looked good though, so I figured I'd post it in this thread.

In the original story Melissa's feet are bound behind the pole sole to sole, but I prefer your version. Any plans on doing her horse ride?

[xs70]

Yeah, it's a study for a new Melissa image. In the Melissa story, the guy whipping her from the front first ties her ankles behind the pole, which causes her to hang from her wrists as she can't stand on her feet. This pose is difficult to obtain by prompting a model. I managed to get the pose right for the first Melissa image by editing a Controlnet image by hand. I'm experimenting with a different approach for close-up images where I don't have to show the pose below the knees, but the image still needs to look right. In this image you can tell by the pose that the girl is standing on her feet, so I can't use it for the Melissa story. I thought the result still looked good though, so I figured I'd post it in this thread.

In the original story Melissa's feet are bound behind the pole sole to sole, but I prefer your version. Any plans on doing her horse ride?

I just checked, and the text indeed says sole to sole. Hmm. I guess I interpreted this as "feet together", which is technically also "sole to sole", just laterally so. I agree that it can be interpreted differently, ie. the bottoms of the soles touching. Is that a thing in bdsm circles? Regardless, I don't think that's the intent here, as the story also explains the effect of the binding as: "The pretty Boer girl was absolutely helpless, hanging against the Whipping Post with her naked upper torso bared for the lash and she shivered in fear." and "All her weight hung from the chaffing wrist cuffs and her mounds had risen high on her chest from the arms-up binding." Binding the ankles together behind the pole would make her feet touch (laterally) thereby matching the description (kinda), but more importantly, result in the intended effect of making Melissa hang from her wrists without making the feet binding more complicated for no discernable reason. I agree that it's just my interpretation though. PS: now that you mentioned this, it does look like that's how Stig interpreted the pose. I had been wondering about that as it always looked weird to me. Regarding those little details, note that Stig got the crossing of Melissa's wrists wrong in that particular illustration. Her wrists were crossed when she was tied with her chest towards the pole. Ed doesn't make it explicit in the story, but turning her around would uncross her wrists. I interpreted the crossing of her wrists as foreshadowing, that she would be turned around to be whipped from the front later in the story.

The wooden horse has never been a thing for me, but it's in the story, and you seem interested, and it's a challenge, so I'll probably take a stab at it at some point.

[doe.1971]

The wooden horse has never been a thing for me [..]

No one is perfect.

[LLL]

Yeah, it's a study for a new Melissa image. In the Melissa story, the guy whipping her from the front first ties her ankles behind the pole, which causes her to hang from her wrists as she can't stand on her feet. This pose is difficult to obtain by prompting a model. I managed to get the pose right for the first Melissa image by editing a Controlnet image by hand. I'm experimenting with a different approach for close-up images where I don't have to show the pose below the knees, but the image still needs to look right. In this image you can tell by the pose that the girl is standing on her feet, so I can't use it for the Melissa story. I thought the result still looked good though, so I figured I'd post it in this thread.

In the original story Melissa's feet are bound behind the pole sole to sole, but I prefer your version. Any plans on doing her horse ride?

I just checked, and the text indeed says sole to sole. Hmm. I guess I interpreted this as "feet together", which is technically also "sole to sole", just laterally so. I agree that it can be interpreted differently, ie. the bottoms of the soles touching. Is that a thing in bdsm circles? Regardless, I don't think that's the intent here, as the story also explains the effect of the binding as: "The pretty Boer girl was absolutely helpless, hanging against the Whipping Post with her naked upper torso bared for the lash and she shivered in fear." and "All her weight hung from the chaffing wrist cuffs and her mounds had risen high on her chest from the arms-up binding." Binding the ankles together behind the pole would make her feet touch (laterally) thereby matching the description (kinda), but more importantly, result in the intended effect of making Melissa hang from her wrists without making the feet binding more complicated for no discernable reason. I agree that it's just my interpretation though. PS: now that you mentioned this, it does look like that's how Stig interpreted the pose. I had been wondering about that as it always looked weird to me. Regarding those little details, note that Stig got the crossing of Melissa's wrists wrong in that particular illustration. Her wrists were crossed when she was tied with her chest towards the pole. Ed doesn't make it explicit in the story, but turning her around would uncross her wrists. I interpreted the crossing of her wrists as foreshadowing, that she would be turned around to be whipped from the front later in the story.

The wooden horse has never been a thing for me, but it's in the story, and you seem interested, and it's a challenge, so I'll probably take a stab at it at some point.

As said, I way prefer your version. Soles touching is sometimes seen in productions like those by Kink.com, and speaks more of consensual play than real torture to me. Looking forward to your horse version... who knows, you might develop a taste for it.

[yyy02]

...Soles touching is sometimes seen in productions like those by Kink.com, and speaks more of consensual play than real torture to me. ...

I think “soles touching” would imply the soles of the feet bound against each other. This would have the effect of splaying her knees outward, and the position would be very uncomfortable if hanging aoh from a post.
The only time I’ve seen it is when a model is faceup and supine, as per the posted images. And then very rarely.
To be tied like that and hung aoh by the wrists for more than a few seconds would be very real torture, IMO.

It's been a few decades or more since I've seen the Stig images.

[LLL]

...Soles touching is sometimes seen in productions like those by Kink.com, and speaks more of consensual play than real torture to me. ...

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I think “soles touching” would imply the soles of the feet bound against each other. This would have the effect of splaying her knees outward, and the position would be very uncomfortable if hanging aoh from a post.
The only time I’ve seen it is when a model is faceup and supine, as per the posted images. And then very rarely.
To be tied like that and hung aoh by the wrists for more than a few seconds would be very real torture, IMO.

It's been a few decades or more since I've seen the Stig images.

Yes, that's what I too intend, soles against each other. Of course combined with hanging by the wrists it would be indeed torture, no more so however than if the feet were not touching the ground for other reasons. Plus the divaricated legs... it would seem awkward to me. As said, I prefer the solution with ankles together and toes on the ground. More estethically pleasing to me.

[xs70]

...Soles touching is sometimes seen in productions like those by Kink.com, and speaks more of consensual play than real torture to me. ...

b5.jpgsybil_back05.jpg


I think “soles touching” would imply the soles of the feet bound against each other. This would have the effect of splaying her knees outward, and the position would be very uncomfortable if hanging aoh from a post.
The only time I’ve seen it is when a model is faceup and supine, as per the posted images. And then very rarely.
To be tied like that and hung aoh by the wrists for more than a few seconds would be very real torture, IMO.

It's been a few decades or more since I've seen the Stig images.

Yeah. Note though that in both those pictures, the girls' legs are held apart by an extra pair of ropes that tie the girl's knees to the outside edges of the bed/frame they're lying on, which, together with the frogtie binding of the legs, makes the soles of the feet touch. I can see the appeal of this combination when a girl is lying down on some kind of frame. But it wouldn't work to keep Melissa's feet tied "sole to sole" in the Melissa story, where rope can only be tied to the pole or to parts of her own body (like ankle tied to other ankle).

Stig's classic illustration, along with what I think is a full version of Melissa, can be found on: https://pornextremal.com/torture-stories/melissa-ed/

[xs70]

The same image as earlier, but finished with the Flux model.

[xs70]

[jny008]

Great art ! Amazing!