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frog wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:38 am It might be. But I still find it a tad clicheish and with a lot of bodily imperfections, especially hands and feet. When I dabbled in drawing I discovered that hands and feet are probably the most difficult part of the human anatomy to render. I guess AI has the same problem.
Temporarily. But even with these imperfections, on every single board I know that deal with similar themes, AI is outpacing the classical made imagery. Easy to see why. I might not like it but it's a fact. Like Putin has a small dick.
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Not sure if I ran this, was on my disk for a while, so clean up time.
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frog wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:38 am
doe.1971 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:11 pm I think AI is coming for our jobs even here, as creators for the Ralphus' board.
It might be. But I still find it a tad clicheish and with a lot of bodily imperfections, especially hands and feet. When I dabbled in drawing I discovered that hands and feet are probably the most difficult part of the human anatomy to render. I guess AI has the same problem.
It's true that I'm not seeing all of the AI images being created (in the way of torture art), but what I've seen so far isn't even close to equaling what 3D renders are showing. The hands and feet issue aside, there's just not anything happening to the victim. I see a lot of just a front view of the woman and no other other position, or the facial expressions are either bland or overboard screams though nothing is being done to her, and sometimes everyone in the image is open mouthed screaming along with the victim. Gratuitous blood without any hint of what caused it doesn't work for for me at all.

I understand it's all new tech and will no doubt evolve. I just hope that the great artists around now will not stop creating, be it with renders or AI at some point in the future. I'm curious though if AI will ever be allowed to create serious torture art that we enjoy with renders.
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wulf wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:05 pm [..]
Stalin used to say, when mentioned the weakness of T-34s against the Germans' armor, that quantity is a quality in itself.
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I believe in AI when I see it create a BATS gif like this bats gif.
Otherwise AI only good at sending robot back in time to terminate any gimp name Sarah Conners. Will Burner
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doe.1971 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:22 pm
wulf wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:05 pm [..]
Stalin used to say, when mentioned the weakness of T-34s against the Germans' armor, that quantity is a quality in itself.
He had the same view about his troops on the ground.
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doe.1971 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:22 pm
wulf wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:05 pm [..]
Stalin used to say, when mentioned the weakness of T-34s against the Germans' armor, that quantity is a quality in itself.
Reminds me of a quote by Rommel. "One of our Tigers is worth ten Shermans. The problem is that after the tenth appears the eleventh, the twelfth, the thirteenth, the fourteenth...".
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LLL wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:26 pm
doe.1971 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:22 pm
wulf wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:05 pm [..]
Stalin used to say, when mentioned the weakness of T-34s against the Germans' armor, that quantity is a quality in itself.
Reminds me of a quote by Rommel. "One of our Tigers is worth ten Shermans. The problem is that after the tenth appears the eleventh, the twelfth, the thirteenth, the fourteenth...".
Yep. We could replace them faster than they could destroy them. Same with bombers, fighters, trucks, artillery, ammo, etc..
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LLL wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:26 pm Reminds me of a quote by Rommel. "One of our Tigers is worth ten Shermans. The problem is that after the tenth appears the eleventh, the twelfth, the thirteenth, the fourteenth...".
Rather Matilda 2. That was the workhorse tank of the Brits in North Africa. Shermans came later.
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wulf wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:17 pm
LLL wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:26 pm
doe.1971 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:22 pm

Stalin used to say, when mentioned the weakness of T-34s against the Germans' armor, that quantity is a quality in itself.
Reminds me of a quote by Rommel. "One of our Tigers is worth ten Shermans. The problem is that after the tenth appears the eleventh, the twelfth, the thirteenth, the fourteenth...".
Yep. We could replace them faster than they could destroy them. Same with bombers, fighters, trucks, artillery, ammo, etc..

Am reading a tome tiitled "Masters of the Air: America's Bomber Boys" by Donald L. Miller. It seems to be a extremely well researched book, and covers primarily the 8th Air Force bombing campaign against Germany. But that's a very broad over-simplified description, as it covers everything, including the the Ninth and Fifteenth Air Forces and their tie-in with the 8th. It covers the POW camps and the POWs, and how they were organized. It touches on the Nazi death camps at Auschwitz, etc. It covers the bombing of German civilians...and the execution/murder of downed fliers by the enraged German populace. It covers the fire bombings of German cities... It covers damaged and out-of-fuel American bombers flying to Switzerland... and what that meant for American flight crew in Switzerland...could be pretty horrifying.

Maybe I'm just finally ready to take in all this information, maybe this information wasn't available before in a single, easily digestible volume. But I find I'm sucking it all in, and hating war more than ever.

I have to say that the "Masters of the Air" series on YouTube really brings the visuals all home. Yes the two are connected.

It's not for everyone. But if you have even a passing interest in the war against Germany, you cannot miss this. And never forget the human toll, both combatants and non-combatants.

Apologies for taking us even further off-topic.
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