Edukator wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:08 pm
If you have any electrical connections issues plese feel free to ask. Allways happy to help.[/color][/b]
Always wondered why they chose to do kinda dumb things with electricity. Like hooking a hand cranked generator to nipple to nipple and nipple to mouth. I mean its hot, but not exactly safe .
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This is NOT a recommended set-up ! (for obvious safety reasons) and I'm not sure it was for real, though most Insex/PD electro torture scenes were not faked (and Hazel can take MUCH pain !).
Allways use bipolar electrodes/clamps (shortest electrical path and most painful) which are safest and nothing through the head/mouth/chest, never ! . If in doubt and without the right knowledge DO NOT play with electricity !
Edukator wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 11:03 amThis is NOT a recommended set-up ! (for obvious safety reasons) and I'm not sure it was for real, though most Insex/PD electro torture scenes were not faked (and Hazel can take MUCH pain !).
Allways use bipolar electrodes/clamps (shortest electrical path and most painful) which are safest and nothing through the head/mouth/chest, never ! . If in doubt and without the right knowledge DO NOT play with electricity !
Yup. Electroplay isn't rocket-science if you follow some simple rules AND you use safe equipment. I've seen a few really janky devices over the years made and used by people I wouldn't trust to screw in a light bulb.
That scene with Hazel is definitely not fake. Later they put those nasty big clamps directly on her labia and shock her. When they finally take them off, she really screams. So hot.
Insex did a strange combination of relatively safe practices augmented by acting and stuff that was just a bit over the top. A healthy young person can generally tolerate a few milliamps of current-limited DC through the chest, such as the nipple to nipple circuit, and play electrostim devices don't even supply that much current. Combine with a little acting because the actress can feel it emote even if it's not outrageously painful, and you can get quite a performance. In other vids they're obviously being more careful and the actual stim current is between the nipple and a ring of metal or something much closer than the other nipple. Electroshock is a bit of a problem for porn producers because the real thing just isn't that visually dramatic. It helps if you can see the relationship between the sadist pushing the buttons / operating the controls and the model's reactions, but it's really hard to tell whether a model's reactions are "real" or acted. And PD very much favored models who could act it up.
localroger wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:38 pm
Insex did a strange combination of relatively safe practices augmented by acting and stuff that was just a bit over the top. A healthy young person can generally tolerate a few milliamps of current-limited DC through the chest, such as the nipple to nipple circuit, and play electrostim devices don't even supply that much current. Combine with a little acting because the actress can feel it emote even if it's not outrageously painful, and you can get quite a performance. In other vids they're obviously being more careful and the actual stim current is between the nipple and a ring of metal or something much closer than the other nipple. Electroshock is a bit of a problem for porn producers because the real thing just isn't that visually dramatic. It helps if you can see the relationship between the sadist pushing the buttons / operating the controls and the model's reactions, but it's really hard to tell whether a model's reactions are "real" or acted. And PD very much favored models who could act it up.
Insex (well, during the PD era) electro-scenes were never faked or simulated but the crew were very concerned about safety issues and knew what they did. When you see a telephone crank (magneto) generator, or a vintage electrical panel with big lights, knobs and gauges, they were modified props with "modern" (battery operated, harmless) electro stimulation (e-stim like) devices hidden inside. All these "electro-play" devices are working with pulsed type (AC) signals (the safe mA limits you quoted through the human body is for DC steady current only), and if you look carefully in the picture below you can see one sitting on the floor next to the model.
These electro-play devices can be more or less painful depending on the way they are used, the type of electrodes/contacts, where they are placed, and (last but not least)... the subject reactivity and her skin condition (moisture/conductivity). These commercial units are 100% safe and harmless (unless if you are subject to heart weakness or diseases).
Actually when connected between nipples (or more distant parts of the body) these devices have very little effect due to the longer resistivity path which limits the current (which is already limited in the set itself) . That's the reason why you could sometimes see PD wetting the body contact areas, to lower te skin resistivity.
As I already mentioned before, bipolar (dual bi-wired contacts) are allways preferable not only for safety reasons but also because the effects produced are much more localized and intense due to the shortest electrical path (and lower resistivity). Actually, electrical current follows many different paths in a complex network like the human body, but the current (and its effects) are allways higher where the electrical resistance is the lowest, so between two close points.
Strangely enough, it took PD (or his assistants) a long time (years ?) to discover this and switching to bipolar (dual contacts) clamps/electrodes.
And, btw, if you have ever actually tried electro-playing with your partner it won't take you much time (maybe a couple of minutes) to tell if a (video) scene is faked or not, regardless of the acting skills of the model. Most (if not all) of these electro-scenes are actually faked, Insex was an exception, and a good one.
