Customs chatter (all producers)

[Floor13]

It doesn't sound like this was a "lost in translation" thing either?

Not this time. And with the best will in the world, not many of the previous times. Just sick of wasting money now. That said, still want a good bagging-electro scene...

[skullchaser]

That's why I use Cruel World and keep the scripts simple and easy to execute. I only have a few rules with them:

1. No whipping. I'm spoiled on the real whippings at Elite Pain.
2. No screaming. Save it for roller coasters and horror movies.
3. No distracting tattoos.
4. No bad party hair dye jobs.

We want the screams, or biting gag screams

But fake whipping... Him grunting as he moves his arm slowly... Nah...

It's a shame they lost their old power-plant location. The rooms are so small now, cameras so close, they can't do fake whipping/perspective shots. Did get a good Tai/Tay whipping from CruelWorld at their old location.


As you say, simple scripts... OUr recent ones were getting complicated... But not the last... Couldn't be more basic "Copy this".



We had 3 customs with PKF, 2 were made, 1 was refunded.
1) Deadly Interogation 5, loved it, Tegan was excellent actress.
2) The Good Soldier: Bits were good, cameraman kept it fresh. But actress was wimpering between tortures, and we specifically asked NOT to do things like that.
3) Third film, the took the money, actress agreed, then "Oh, she doesn't like ball gags, switch to pony-bit" yup no problem, rather have some good drooling biting on a bit than a ballgag that is clearly not really in her mouth. "She doesn't want the cuffs and belts too tight as she has another shoot that night and the next day", well, we wanted skin bulging... Then "Oh, she doesn't want to arch her back from the electricity. And can the electrodes be taped onto her nipples instead of clamps, oh and does she have top be oiled as she doesn't want it in her hair, and does she have to be shaved as she's preparing for a hair-film".

Yeah, fuck off. You saw the script, took $2700, and now are changing it piece by piece expecting us to say "Oh go on then, you've gone this far", got a refund out of them. Saw her in other films after that, and a lucky escape. Just as I described above "Oh, that hurts!" no body reaction.

Recently got into VR, and OMG the acting. THe POV girl-on-girl is terrible, zero eye contact, alway a girl on her back laying on her bed (i.e. the worst way to have a girl go down). THe POV BJ is "OH my god!!! It's so big!!! Oh your cum tastes so good!!! giggle giggle giggle!!!" What the hell happened to the industry?

OUCH!

Yeah, the problem with a lot of Western producers is that the stars schedule multiple shoots, so how much of your fetish gets worked into the shoot depends on what's scheduled next on the star's calendar. That's another reason I keep it simple = no blood, no oil, no marking. If a girl is going to bleed or sweat, it can happen naturally during the shoot (bondage is a physically demanding genre). The sex fucking never takes place in my customs because so much of it is done poorly (just like whipping). Yeah, I miss the old power plant location where a girl could be strung up suspended and whipped, but Alex' gray cell set works good enough so long as only 2 or 3 people are in it at a time and there isn't any whipping. If I'm going to make an actress feel pain, it's going to be clamps and suspension because there's no way to fake that.

I'm convinced that Cruel World uses models that are just starting out, or local girls looking for extra money, with a few professional artists in the mix. If I like a particular model, I'll use her repeatedly. I can usually tell when a model is a college student and I expect them to be gone in a year or two, so I crank out some quick scripts while I have them.

$2,700 is a lot of money for a custom. For $2700, I could grab my camera, move some furniture, find a friend, and make my own damn film. I just don't have the time to do all of that legwork. So, I do what corporations do and outsource it for about $600, even if its in a language I don't speak or write. Foreign films qualify as art, right?

[yyy02]

https://cdn013.bdsmlr.com/uploads/video ... rmAqa9.mp4

I've long wanted to have something similar enacted, but with electro clips.

Picture a sexy girl being subjected to electrotorture with clips attached to her nipples. The electrotorture is finished, or they're moving on to another phase and she's hanging semiconscious. The bad guy (or girl) takes hold of the wires and casually pulls the clips off her nipples. A final outrage, instead of (gently and carefully) unclipping her. How about that detail, eh?

[skullchaser]

https://cdn013.bdsmlr.com/uploads/video ... rmAqa9.mp4

I've long wanted to have something similar enacted, but with electro clips.

Picture a sexy girl being subjected to electrotorture with clips attached to her nipples. The electrotorture is finished, or they're moving on to another phase and she's hanging semiconscious. The bad guy (or girl) takes hold of the wires and casually pulls the clips off her nipples. A final outrage, instead of (gently and carefully) unclipping her. How about that detail, eh?

I've never thought to ask for that. Next time I submit a script, I'll see if the actor will agree to something like that. For now, the best I can offer is a clamp falling off in the middle of a scene. Dr. Alina was just about to cut a tattoo off of poor Anna as a souvenir before harvesting her organs for sale on the black market.

[skullchaser]

If I did this right, you should get a Behind The Scenes clip on Imgur. I love Adri's animated expressions. I made a good choice in casting her as a victim.

https://imgur.com/a/CrGfOjo

[skullchaser]

I have currently submitted a script for a second movie. In the movie yet to be made, Adri is used to demonstrate the effects of electrocution on the human body. I'd like to book her again once I see the results of that film.

So... for my next film after that with Adri, I'm thinking of a few story ideas but I'd like some feedback on what people want to see. Which do you prefer as a TED Talk demonstration?

Story Idea 1: Adri is used to see if electrocution will enhance human extrasensory perception. Dr. Squalus holds up a card with a shape on one side. Adri has to state the shape. If she is wrong, she gets electrocuted. Story ends with Adri unconscious.

Story Idea 2: Adri is used to test the recuperative properties of a new sports drink formula. She receives electric shocks to fatigue her, and is then forced to drink the sports drink. Dr. Squalus checks her heart rate to determine how long it takes for Adri's heart to return to normal. Then, Adri is shocked again and given water, to compare her recovery time to the sports drink.

Story Idea 3: Adri is injected with a virus. She is electrocuted to raise her heart rate so that the virus courses through her system. Then she is injected with a potential cure, to see if the antidote is effective. She is electrocuted again to push the cure through her bloodstream.

Story Idea 4: Adri is used to demonstrate the various tortures of the Inquisition. She is placed on a rack and stretched. Then, clamps are attached to her nipples and she is stretched again. Then, the clamps are removed and her feet are burned with a hot iron. The TED Talk ends with Adri passed out on the rack.

Story Idea 5: Adri is used to test the healing properties of a new ointment. She is placed on a rack and stretched. Then, her feet are burned with a hot iron and the ointment is placed on the wounds. To speed up the recovery, clamps are placed on her nipples and she is electrocuted to raise her heart rate. The TED Talk ends with Dr. Squalus peeling off the bandages to reveal skin that is undamaged.

Which would you prefer to watch?

Pictures of Adri for attention.

[Floor13]

Looks like Depraved World is gone from Clips4Sale once again. So Alex might have other things on his mind.

[Floor13]

$2,700 is a lot of money for a custom. For $2700, I could grab my camera, move some furniture, find a friend, and make my own damn film. I just don't have the time to do all of that legwork. So, I do what corporations do and outsource it for about $600, even if its in a language I don't speak or write. Foreign films qualify as art, right?

Yes, I don't spend that kind of amount any more. I have plenty of 'friends' and plenty of furniture and well equiped rooms, and could do it myself free of charge... But... Not the same. I like the planning, the 'script' writing, and the finished product arriving in my inbox. FIlming my partner and a couple of friends just isn't the same (even though they all do most of the stuff for real, and when roleplaying are 100% convincing).


Anyway, I've calmed down a bit now. I've just been trying to find some good rough HJ/BJ films to improve my technique as we have a couple of professional men arriving in just under 2 weeks, like to be in control as they're restrained, and then later, squashed between them while my partner watches, vibing herself raw... Debating whether to film, never comes out well and paranoid about being robbed/leaking etc.

[Floor13]

https://cdn013.bdsmlr.com/uploads/video ... rmAqa9.mp4

I've long wanted to have something similar enacted, but with electro clips.

Picture a sexy girl being subjected to electrotorture with clips attached to her nipples. The electrotorture is finished, or they're moving on to another phase and she's hanging semiconscious. The bad guy (or girl) takes hold of the wires and casually pulls the clips off her nipples. A final outrage, instead of (gently and carefully) unclipping her. How about that detail, eh?

Ow ow ow, no no no!
Too much for my sensative nipples. Aligator clips pulling free? Nope.

Seriously hurts having clover-leaf clamps yanked off. That hurts me much more than peircing (not that I do peircing these days). So not even going to think about aligator clips.

[MAV]

Looks like Depraved World is gone from Clips4Sale once again. So Alex might have other things on his mind.

Well, dammit. Even though the versions there were edited, it was a good option for immediate gratification.