ElitePain - Cards of Pain 15 - Amirah

[Pedro]

What is your opinion, should have Amirah chosen to quit after the second round when she revealed a 3 x ALL card? As I mentioned earlier, she knew that if she quits at this point, probably she wouldn't get a second chance...

By the way, as you know Amirah is an ex porn star. As far as I know, she has a serious relationship, and they decided she would not make any film which involves sexual intercourse with anybody... (Btw this was the case with Lyen, Zazie and some others too - Actually I am not sure whether someone who does straight porn would consider coming to us)

So what I wanted to share is that I often hear from these ex-porn stars that what they do in regular porn is sometimes almost as painful as our films. And they even often have serious injuries, as the scenes are quite rough, male sizes are huge, and often more then one member penetrates a single hole... As I hear that we have a big advantage: here they DON'T HAVE TO ACT LIKE IF THEY ENJOYED IT

Actually Lyen told us one time, that she felt more respect from us than at a usual porn shooting, where at most times (exception might exist) she was treated as a piece of meat by the producers.

[Bullwhiplover]

I think no one of us wants her to quit after the second round
I for myself even hope she will finish the game and takes home the money
Why are you aski Pedro

[Jan]

Well, of course I am happy, that she did not quit. I hope (though Amanda played a nasty trick on her) that she felt treated respectfully. If her motivation not to quit was a chance of a 2nd movie, all the better. Though her 1st movie is not released yet, I already yearn for a 2nd AA movie. I hope you can make her do a COP RLD.

[Amari]

Of course, we all wish she wouldn't give up.

The desperation of the player is dramatic, but I personally don't like this desperation: the near certainty of not being able to win, and just the promise of being allowed to play such a relentless game again, in the desesperate need for money.

I have said several times that I don't like the "X3 all" card. I think it should be removed for newcomers.
Strange enough, I much prefer Tatjana's (and Amanda's) naughty pranks, which the player can rebel against, and just as dramatic. In my humble opinion.

Obviously you don't want to organize a shooting with players who give up after the first or second round(we don't want that either ). But then, there is a big risk of not re-hiring a promising player like Amirah. It has often been discussed here about the risk of players not coming back (...because of Tatjana ).

[WhiteKnight]

Normally I do not comment here before having seen the complete movie. But as Pedro asks so kindly (in red color) I will give my opinion(s).

Opinion 1:
Of course, she should have quit after revealing the 3xALL card. She had already taken 54 hits, more than the half of a nominal session. And after this card she had 213 strokes to go. An impossible mission. There was only one reason to continue: The hope, that the 2 remaining cards were extremely lucky cards like the save-card for the back AND the switch-card or the 1/2-card for the pussy. So accepting the breast round was at least reasonable to a certain point. Latest after revealing the Salty Water card, she should have quit. It is almost sure, that she gave up in that round. Otherwise, she would have taken more than 168 strokes, what is more than any player could take in COPs history (as far as I remember). And continuing for the chance of getting the same again (no money only pain) seems also to be ridiculous.

Opinion 2:
Of course, she should not quit after revealing the 3xALL card. Ok, the 2500 Dollars bonus was gone, but it could still get an extraordinary movie. And with the participation in the sales of the movie (this is my assumption), at least some money would be earned later. And the chance of being invited for a RLD-game would not be lost.

[Amari]

...And after this card she had 213 strokes to go. An impossible mission...

Ouch, indeed, impossible!!!
Furthermore, I really wonder how AA could accept the back+salt round. Maybe she was very lucky with the pussy round, giving her a little (false)hope to win.
Maybe Tatjana had found a way to avoid her the pussy round (she is so "kindhearted"! I never thought she is emotionless! )
Or Pablo, yet seemingly emotionless, may have made AA an offer to reduce her ordeal in compensation for the b̶u̶t̶t̶ pussy round.

[musial2]

I always root for the subs to win, and I think they should be paid more. I don't know how far $2500 goes in Hungary, but it doesn't seem like a lot of money for what they suffer.
But the only rational thing to do when you draw the 3X card is to quit, except possibly in a fifth round with only a few strokes. If she quit after two rounds, would she be barred from another COP game? Or from all games? She should not be barred from all games when it is so obviously the cards and not her. But if she would be barred from all games, then it might make sense to go one more round just to remain eligible.
Why was the 3X card still in the deck? Do they no longer get a chance to throw out one card? If they do, what did she throw out?

[Pedro]

Bullwhiplover asked

Why are you aski Pedro

Because this clip - to my surprize - hardly generated any feedback, I wanted to provoke some reaction. That's all.

[WhiteKnight]

Bullwhiplover asked

Why are you aski Pedro

Because this clip - to my surprize - hardly generated any feedback, I wanted to provoke some reaction. That's all.

Do we consider the exploitation of a player in a financal emergency situation still being consensual?

It is one thing to push the player beyond her limits if she has a chance to win. This is what most of us want to see.

Talking a player into accepting a hopeless challange is another story.

[Pedro]

Talking a player into accepting a hopeless challange is another story

When our dominas say "give up!" literally once every minute You consider that talking into going on???

Or which moment do you conaider "talking her into accepting" anything?