Customs chatter (all producers)

[yyy02]

For those who have done two-actress customs with Cruel World, do you pay the full rate for both actresses or is it somewhere in the middle, or...?

And for those hiring CRY, would she do open mouthed sceaming if it's requested of her?

TIA.

[Floor13]

For those who have done two-actress customs with Cruel World, do you pay the full rate for both actresses or is it somewhere in the middle, or...?

And for those hiring CRY, would she do open mouthed sceaming if it's requested of her?

TIA.

Re: CRY
We requested full open mouthed screaming. We got her doing her wide-mouthed gurning moan.

Re: 2 actresses... Each actress has a victim rate and a torturer rate.

We pay more for the victim rate. Had white Rose as the antagonist a few times, much lower rate than the victim for example.

[skullchaser]

For those who have done two-actress customs with Cruel World, do you pay the full rate for both actresses or is it somewhere in the middle, or...?

And for those hiring CRY, would she do open mouthed sceaming if it's requested of her?

TIA.

Re: CRY
We requested full open mouthed screaming. We got her doing her wide-mouthed gurning moan.

Re: 2 actresses... Each actress has a victim rate and a torturer rate.

We pay more for the victim rate. Had white Rose as the antagonist a few times, much lower rate than the victim for example.

Yeah, depending on what's in the script, the rates will vary. CRY will charge more if the stunt requires more physical effort. Generally, I was paying about $250 for CRY to do suspension work for most of the script, and Rose about $150 to $175 to actually carry the film with acting. I won't pay much more than that. If the actors want more because the script has a difficult stunt, then I'll change the stunt to keep the drama but without the physical effort. There's also a dependency on if the actors like the story. Sure, they'll do it, but they'll be more "into it" if the storyline appeals to them and more willing to offer suggestions and work the rates.

My advice: think of them as a team. If the two actors have worked together before, you're more likely to get a better video since they're comfortable with how each will act/react with the other. I keep going back to the CRY/Rose tandem because they're both professional and have done enough films together that they're friends as well. Alex trusts them to ad-lib the script and gives them minimal instruction. Anastasia is getting there with Rose.

I'd like to see Marie as the tormentor with the new girl from "Inquisition 34-2" as the victim. I think the height/age difference would be a good combination for a dom/sub.

[skullchaser]

For those who have done two-actress customs with Cruel World, do you pay the full rate for both actresses or is it somewhere in the middle, or...?

And for those hiring CRY, would she do open mouthed sceaming if it's requested of her?

TIA.

Re: CRY
We requested full open mouthed screaming. We got her doing her wide-mouthed gurning moan.

You'll have better results with the new girl - from "Cruel Punishment 12" and "Inquisition 34". Her name is Teresa. See pic. My only knock would be that her grimace can look like a smile sometimes, but the grunts and moans make up for it.

[skullchaser]

Maybe its me, but it seems like the quality of model at Cruel World is starting to slip.

[Frank]

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[Floor13]

Maybe its me, but it seems like the quality of model at Cruel World is starting to slip.

I would argue it's personal taste... Apparently everyone wants models that just stand there flapping their arms back and forth acting like electricity doesn't hurt. My partner and I seem to be the only people that require the actresses to act as if torture is actually painful.


The new muscular lady did a good job in her current electro one... Just a shame her abs are covered by that tattoo.

I do wonder how much is a cultural/language thing... You can see from the resting facial structure that they have spent 20 years speaking russian, their mouths and cheeks just look different as the language requires lots more pursing of lips and lip movement. I think that is reflected in their 'scared' faces, where they pull their mouths sideways, instead of a more open mouthed effect that I am used to from the British and American/Canadian ladies that I've played with.

The couple of times I've played with French and German ladies in my youth, they had a very passive face whether the punishment was real or fake film, I found it very difficult.


If you're talking about looks, in think it's a subjective thing. I definitely have my tastes, I love the body of the recent muscle lady, but her face is not quite my taste for a 'strong' woman. Meanwhile the new redhead has fantastic hair... Not seen her face in closeup.


Still think Tai/Tay was the best, but she's lost the muscle in her shoulders and legs. The thinner actress with the 2 moles was the best actress, she does fear sooooooooo well. Just those 2 moles really puts me off. She looks good stretched out and sweaty though.

I'm saving money for a few more months before ordering anything new.

[yyy02]

...I do wonder how much is a cultural/language thing...

I think you hit the nail on the head.

For instance, from my observation of JAV (Japanese) actresses, they tend to "squeal" and "squall" (for lack of more attractive terms), and they vocalize in a higher register than maybe Western actresses? Maybe it's partially because of a bigger body build with the Western women?

They also pull their mouths sideways and down to express pain? This may be cultural/lingual. It's sort of what Cry/Petra does.

And one actress in particular whose face goes into "subspace" mode, read sort of expressionless, is Casey Calvert.

[Masterfrog]

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[skullchaser]

Maybe its me, but it seems like the quality of model at Cruel World is starting to slip.

If you're talking about looks, in think it's a subjective thing. I definitely have my tastes, I love the body of the recent muscle lady, but her face is not quite my taste for a 'strong' woman. Meanwhile the new redhead has fantastic hair... Not seen her face in closeup.

Yeah, I was referring to the recent outbreak of excessive tattoos. Elite Pain went through the same thing when the models went from "clean" to "inked' when Lomp started cutting their salaries. I'm wondering if there's a financial reason why we haven't seen more "clean" girls like Anastasia, CRY, Tai, and Victoria, and instead we're getting the redhead with the ugly thigh tattoo and the other woman with more ink than skin. Maybe the financiers can't afford the "clean" models? I do know that Alex, White Rose, and Marie keep trying to provide work-arounds to the embargo, but none of the solutions work for me.