I edited out the "nipplectomy" and breast-feeding for my personal version. I posted it to Dark Fetish Network, but you now need a Premium membership (about $5 to $6 per month) to see videos. I'd love to see the other girl (Emily, played by Chantal Degroat) die -- that's harder to find than that of Angelica (Maya Barovich).

*buys rope

And no, I was not born before the movie came out.

Miss the daily pictures of Jane in distress.

As you can see I am a fan of fine women with a natural bush.

If the video does not present some kind of story or context, it's hard for me to enjoy the action, especially when said action unfolds over two hours. It seems Fantom plays like a surrealistic dream, so a traditional plot is not required. That's cool, but without any verbal interplay or relationship between the only two characters (except for the torture of course), I'm afraid I'll lose interest very quickly. Do we know anything about the Fantom? Do we know why he is punishing Jane? If not, the proceedings will seem mostly artificial to me. Of course, I know many others won't care about this, so I'm sure the video will still do well.

Nonetheless, I prefer films like Agent X. In many ways, the two productions seem similar, but Agent X features an interrogation (albeit a somewhat laid-back one) and the two characters interact and have some motivation. Agent X is pretty minimalistic too, but there is enough of a story to support the action. It doesn't seem that's the case for Fantom - though I'm more than willing to stand corrected on this matter since I haven't seen the film.

I could live with many of the of the other issues mentioned in the review - the blindfold, the mechanical whipping, the unenthusiastic villain, etc. - and although I prefer the Red Feline films which feature blood and wound effects, I'd be willing to do without them if the rest of the video grabbed me. However, Fantom feels a bit too experimental and abstract for my tastes. Too bad, as I do like experimental and abstract in other contexts, just not in a GIMP film.

jhlipton wrote about Chaos:

I edited out the "nipplectomy" and breast-feeding for my personal version.

Actually, it wasn't so much the nipplectomy which bothered me (I've watched others, and enjoyed them), but the overall tone of this scene. Both the villain and the girl, as well as the cackling onlookers were playing their parts with just too much credibility for comfort. I know, I know... normally I'm moaning about characters not being believable enough, but when things get this vicious, I like to have some indication that reminds me I'm watching a fantasy. In this case, I couldn't find a thing.

Perhaps this would make an interesting poll question. Is there a point where GIMP scenes lose their entertainment value because they are too realistic? If so, what elements contribute to this, or alternatively, prevent this from occurring? Any examples? Although I am disappointed when a scene I expect to be arousing ends up disturbing me, I'm also fascinated by the reasons why. Sometimes, all I can come up with is that it is "too real", but I'm sure there is more to it than just that.

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Fritz wrote: Is there a point where GIMP scenes lose their entertainment value because they are too realistic?

When it turns from torture to gore, I lose interest. The erotic value disappears for me at the point where the victim is, say, spurting blood from severed arteries. Or getting her face mashed to a pulp. It may be realistic, but it’s not sensual.

Even some whipping scenes go too far. Yes, it’s realistic that a well-cracked whip can leave bloody, broken skin in its wake. But that’s not what I want to see. I’d rather see just enough of a mark to convince me that it’s really happening, while I focus my attention on the sweating, squirming, screaming, crying naked victim.

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Today’s movie quiz is an easy one. Not only was the movie not made in Brazil...it was actually released in this century! Take a look at this pic...

Who is the busty babe strapped into the elaborate torture device, and what is the movie? For extra credit: Is it in our movie review index?

BOO !!!!!! Miss the daily pictures of Jane in distress.

Jesus Christ, dude! I loved seeing Jane tied up and suffering, too, but that was the longest promotion for a single movie we've ever had in the nearly 12 years of this site. By my count, I posted 98 pictures of Jane over the past couple months. Of course, she sent me over 1700 stills to work with, so I didn't run everything, but 98 is plenty in my book. If that still wasn't enough for you, go to http://redfeline.com/home/ where she posted even more on her own site. Have you bought or rented her movie yet?

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Fritz wrote:

It seems Fantom plays like a surrealistic dream, so a traditional plot is not required. That's cool, but without any verbal interplay or relationship between the only two characters (except for the torture of course), I'm afraid I'll lose interest very quickly. Do we know anything about the Fantom? Do we know why he is punishing Jane?

You're right on target. We don't really know anything about the Fantom, and he's punishing Jane because...hell, because she's hot? Good enough reason for me. It's definitely a dream-like film, it was experimental and I applaud Jane and company for taking it on. It wasn't entirely successful for the very reason you mentioned...not enough story and not enough motivation for the villain to be doing these things to Jane.

Nonetheless, I prefer films like Agent X. In many ways, the two productions seem similar, but Agent X features an interrogation (albeit a somewhat laid-back one) and the two characters interact and have some motivation. Agent X is pretty minimalistic too, but there is enough of a story to support the action.

Exactly. Agent X is a better film for that reason. I actually liked JJ in that movie. He at least tried to give a performance (i.e. he actually talked this time) and his verbal threatening toward Jane was effective and added to the story. As I've gotten older and more jaded and seen so many of these, I've learned to discriminate and will take off points if I don't see what I like. Dialogue is important! You've got to have some interaction between villain and victim.

Jane wrote me that they discussed JJ's character talking more in this one, but he noticed that she became even more disconcerted by his not talking. She said she was actually freaked out during the shooting because of this because she really believed this guy was a psycho. I believe the freaked out part; she was definitely in distress in her performance. Obviously, the film worked for some but not others, but no one denies that Jane was excellent. It was the strength of her performance that was the best part of the film.

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Perhaps this would make an interesting poll question. Is there a point where GIMP scenes lose their entertainment value because they are too realistic? If so, what elements contribute to this, or alternatively, prevent this from occurring? Any examples?

Good question, although we've definitely done this one before. But hell, the board has been slow and no one is saying much of anything, so let's try to get some dialogue started. We can't very well be the "World's Finest" blog when we get 3 posts a day, can we? I'm giving you guys a chance to speak up and make yourself heard. Is it possible that we have 1000 readers a day who don't have a single thought in their heads and who can't take 5 minutes to share what they think? Come on, guys, make an effort and contribute. If you've got an opinion, this is your chance. Don't let me down. This board belongs to YOU, don't waste it.

GIMP POLL:
Is there a point where a bondage/ torture/ rape scene can lose its entertainment value because it is too realistic? Or does the fact that it's a fantasy mean that anything goes, in your opinion? Can you think of a particular film/scene that went too far for you?

For me, I like realistic scenes. All my fantasies have some degree of realism, but to agree with YikYakker, it would have to be excessive blood and gore. Anything that detracts from the victim's beauty or is shown to be permanent can be a turn-off. But not all the time. When Trixie got her face beaten to a bloody pulp in ZFX's Ballista 2, I thought it was hot. That's probably one of my favorite scenes that Rick ever shot. But seeing Camille Keaton get her face kicked in during the original I Spit On Your Grave...I thought that scene went too far. I means, she was barely moving and the guy is just kicking her over and over. It stopped being fun and just became sad.

All right, guys, your turn. Take a few minutes and make me proud.

Poll: Too realistic? Can be. Yep. Too brutal, too mean, too bullying, too sadistic, too merciless. I suppose 'too' is the operative word. As a lightweight or mediumweight gimper, I definitely have limits: things I don't want to see, would be bothered by, repulsed by. I like realism, but I need some sense of, if ever so slight, that this is a performance. That while the female character is in distress with a crotchrope splitting her, the real actress is OK with it. Probably not explaining this too well. Someone else will do better I'm sure.

YikYakker - is that an elaborate torture device or is she appearing in some vile Brazilian version of "Road Warrior"? - looks like all she needs is some snap-on-tools.

When I posted the review of FA 318 which was quite favorable it was exciting that there was a part 2 which was promptly ordered - due to my flawed thought process I made the assumption it would be a continuation of part 1, perhaps in the vein of the "Slave Island" series - but oh nay nay - there is no connection at all - the setting, time period, uniforms, villains and premise make it an utterly different movie and leaves me wondering how it came to be part 2 - and there is not one bit of bondage or torment in it - so if you have an irresistable impulse to watch a bunch of dudes in military uniform holding down and raping a bunch of chicks in military uniform then this is for you - I found it a yawn fest unworthy of review.

Stay well all

yes I have all her stuff, I just like her body and mind.

sloth

any idea where one might get that last 10 minutes home invasion? I love those type scenes

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The poll question: Most definitely, it's an issue for me. If things start to look too real, I usually don't enjoy it. That has been my problem with films such as The Girl Next Door. I felt bad for the young woman being tortured, rather than aroused. I've had the same problem with other films. As I've said before, I tend to prefer movies like the Ginger films, which depict convincing scenes of helplessness but are otherwise phony and silly enough that I'll never have to worry about feeling guilty, or sympathizing with the characters.

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Call me a prude or whatever, but I don't understand why some American colleges are now allowing Dean Ralphus to set the curriculum. This can't be what higher education is supposed to be about ... can it?

Nudity - no, partial clothing is much better. By the way, my favorite moment in any scene is when the blouse is first ripped open. There are so many obscure fixations out there (smoking, carrying, crushing..etc) I'm surprised that I've never seen anyone focus on the shirt ripping. Any shirt ripping site out there that I've missed?

Too real - definitely. A good example is the Red Feline series. They're great but when they start nailing the hands and feet they lose me.

And I 2nd the comment about the stomachs. The pulled up dress move is always frustrating.

Chaos gets a pass from me because Kevin Gage ("Chaos") looks so much like Sid Haig, and I could easily see Haig filling this role, that it plays up the fantasy element.

Well, you all knew I was weird from a long time back, right? LOL

jhlipton - you, weird? - who would have thought - all Gimpdom is now a better place with that confirmation :)

A Canadian - I followed the Levant thing wanting to see how the Orwellian Thought Police would handle that - when he was summoned to the Rightspeak Ministry he had the foresight to bring along a vidcam and recorded the entire session - in effect he simply told them to screw off, leaving the woman interviewer at a loss - she was probably used to cowering lambs awed by her title and position - perhaps a lesson to be learned by Gimpers worldwide on defiance as your best defense against the depredations visited on citizens by unaccountable petty bureaucrats - now, take over the soapbox.

As far as the "faux-sequel" on FA 318, I certainly was taken in by the cover shots - plenty on the back cover was from part 1 - I assumed the front cover shot would be from part 2 but it appears in neither film - pity.

Stay well all

I agree, that home invasion is probably one of the best and realistic I have ever scene. The women is really cute and treated like a bunch of punks would treat a pretty women in that situation.

If you find one, let me know. I dig shirt ripping (or the ripping off or open of any garment, for that matter). It’s a great idea for a web site, and if I had the time, money or expertise, I’d put it up myself.

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Jane von Detlefson wrote [about her body self-image]: ...I'm very content with what I've got.

Well Jane, I think I speak for many here when I say that I’m very satisfied with what you’ve got, too.

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Sloth wrote [concerning the Mystery Movie Pic]: YikYakker - is that an elaborate torture device or is she appearing in some vile Brazilian version of "Road Warrior"? - looks like all she needs is some snap-on-tools.

Heh-heh – well, from the movie trailer it appears that she is going to get a snapped neck. I was hoping someone had seen this direct-to-vid production and could tell us if it gives good GIMPage.

Yes, the movie is Machined Reborn, aka Reborn with Davina Joy as the lusciously built but curiously angular-faced victim in the hot seat.

The release year was 2009, and the movie was first mentioned on this forum in May of 2010. No one here has reviewed it yet.

Looks like it just might fit in with our poll topic, though. Could be a lot of blood and guts in this one.

5'3" Jane really? I'm officially in love........ especially since Natalie Portman cheated on me and got pregnant. She should know not to do that before a good gimp scene.

Jane von Detlefson wrote [about her body self-image]: ...I'm very content with what I've got.
Well Jane, I think I speak for many here when I say that I'm very satisfied with what you've got, too.
ME TOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Moore wrote: I'm surprised that I've never seen anyone focus on the shirt ripping. Any shirt ripping site out there that I've missed?
If you find one, let me know. I dig shirt ripping (or the ripping off or open of any garment, for that matter). It’s a great idea for a web site, and if I had the time, money or expertise, I'd put it up myself.

The best "shirt ripping" scene to my knowledge was the post apocalyptic straight to VHS masterpiece "Stryker", where Andrea Savio tied AOH (spread out) gets her shirt ripped off. She begins to cry knowing the impending rape that is to come and baddie says "let's cut her down". Great stuff, one of the first rentals of my young gimp life. The link to IMDB is above.

Poll Question: I have to agree with "The Canadian". The movie "The Girl Next Door" went too far. It was a young girl tortured by sadistic young boys allowed to do whatever they wanted. I remember one of them saying "let's burn her". If they had left it at only raping and humiliating her, I could have enjoyed that. But all the tortures she went through. Too much, I think.

Yep, the Girl Next Door was tough for me because we got to know the character as an underage teen, and that holds no fantasy benefit to me. I also suspect that kids were the doing the victimizing didn't help either. The other scene I found unwatchable, actually boring was "Irreversible". While I like to see the girls face during a rape scene, I want to see MORE then her face. There was nothing sexy about the rapist keeping the coat on her for the duration of the scene. I found "Malena" much more enjoyable.

I actually like a little blood and a couple of bruises, it looks more realistic. And I definitely like it when the victim looks a bit disheveled. Also whippings need a few stripes and bruises to be realistic. But when a girl is unrecognizable and covered in blood or blood is spurting out of her body it's not my thing. While I can deal with a "bad end" I much prefer the victim to survive, I almost enjoy a victim huddled in the corner in the fetal position broken as much as the interrogation itself. But I don't look at someone with different taste in FANTASY as being sick or anything.

I've never ever hit or even thought about hitting a woman. Perhaps it was the way I was brought up. And the one fantasy I don't have any patience for is pedophilia, which is probably why "Girl Next Door' held no sexual arousal for me.

"L´Ultimo Gladiatore" - a old sword&sandal movie with a little bit spanking, whipping and chaingang - not bad.

greets Roald

Another scene I really like was one I saw growing up, "The Wonders of Aladdin" I believe, a movie from the early 60's with Donald O'Connor. Two separate scenes where the heroine is hanging ready to be tortured, nude and gagged. You don't see anything because of a strategically placed set. Both times she is rescued before anything happens and both times they rescuers gawk at her and all she can do is hang there and get pissed. Those kinds of scenes I find so exciting. I will say growing up when we saw this movie it didn't take long for us to copy the scene in our play and yes they got me naked.

I was awfully let-down by the Delila movie. The second half of the movie with the blonde girl was consensual fast-forward material for me, but with Delila, I would have done a lot of things differently. Number one, she's only naked at the beginning, and mostly clothed all throughout the rape. Makes no sense.

Number two (and this was my biggest gripe): She was BLINDFOLDED nearly the entire film! Why cast a girl as hot as Delila and keep her face covered up from nearly beginning to end? He was wearing a mask so she couldn't identify him anyway, so that doesn't make any logical sense. Huge mistake.

Number 3: She wasn't scared. In the scene you mentioned where he asks her, "Who's your bitch now?" and she smarts off, "Not me, motherfucker!". I hated that! That is so totally wrong in a rape movie! That should have been cut and re-shot. I want to see her act like a VICTIM!

Number 4: He brings her to orgasm with a vibrator? What? Why? What rapist does that? Rape is about his pleasure, not hers. If he wants to pleasure her afterward, turn off the camera and give her the O...off screen. Real rapists don't use vibrators.

The direct link to your latest review is in my Homepage URL above.

This is indeed a very interesting question, because as much as we are drawn together via a common thread, we are also very different in our tastes. Some of us draw lines when the model or actress looks too young, while others are turned off by blood or gore. I always love a good rape and torture segment until the model gets snuffed or whacked, call it what you will. In that regard dismemberment, blood, gore really is a turn off to me. That being said a good round of hard anal abuse is something I love watching. I know that is a turn off to some here. As much as we are alike we are all different, however to the vanilla world we are all the same.

I have produced a couple videos that were so intense that I left in a sign that it was fantasy. Like in "The Incompetent Strangler," Nikki tries to lick my cock while being raped. I left it in because the video was so realistic, it was a bit too much. The real time POV really sold the realism. That video won best strangle in the Snuffie Awards.

Now if I only could get a bloody whipping to look that real... Some day!

Good Hunting

MaX CoXXX

Unlike Ralphus, I have no problems with a victim that has a bit of fight in her. In fact, if it's done right, I like it. I like to see a woman's spirit being broken, so scenes of the victim resisting work for me.

Second, I like vibrator scenes. Yes, I know ... no real rapist would do something like that. But scenes that show a woman being pleasured against her will work for me.

Thus, I can't fault the producers for including some of the things that upset the little guy.

Unlike Ralphus, I have no problems with a victim that has a bit of fight in her. In fact, if it's done right, I like it. I like to see a woman's spirit being broken, so scenes of the victim resisting work for me.

I have no problems with a victim putting up a fight, either. In the beginning. But there has to be a time where she's so traumatized she has to give in. In this particular case, Delila was already tied up, she had already been threatened and raped. And she's going to mouth off to her rapist and call him a motherfucker at that point? She's supposed to be scared, and she wasn't. The rapist is supposed to be in control, not her. It was just a bad move as a director to allow that to end up in the final print.

I like vibrator scenes. Yes, I know ... no real rapist would do something like that. But scenes that show a woman being pleasured against her will work for me.

You can like vibrator scenes if you want. I understand the concept of pleasuring the woman against her will, I just don't agree with it. You want to make her cum against her will, do it with pain, and not with pleasure. And you already proved my point when you said no rapist would do something like that. So what was that scene doing in the movie? It's a rape movie. To use a vibrator is illogical.

I can't fault the producers for including some of the things that upset the little guy.

Well, maybe they should consult me before including those things. I'm tired of pretending I'm not special. I'm tired of pretending like I'm not bitching, a total fricking rock star from Mars, and people can't figure me out; they can't process me. I don't expect them to. You can't process me with a normal brain. Sorry my life is so much bitchin' than yours. I planned it that way. I bleed tiger's blood. I got magic and I got poetry at my fingertips. I am battle-tested bayonets, bro! I've spent the last 10 years effortlessly and magically turning your tin cans into gold. I am on a drug. It's called RALPHUS! It's not available. If you try it once, you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body. Duh. WINNING!

It might be tough to find, but I suggest you find this film. It is not Hitchcock, but it has some pretty brutal rape/bondage/murders with bouncing tits a plenty. It's called BREAK.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1433089/

I'm not saying it's a great movie, but it does have some pretty brutal GIMP content.

tip: brand new on dvd: "Hexenjagd" aka "Kladivo Na Carodejnice" - i think it´s in database

great black/white movie, digital remastered, 102 min, available in germany with german or czechoslowakian language. wonderful torturescenes, absolut uncut. google for it under: "Vergessene Historienfilme" oder "Hexenjagd".

!!!!!!a absolut MUST HAVE for collectors!!!!!!

greets Tarl

all relevant vids in next time in Roald´s group ;-)

John Galt wrote:

If the delicious Delila Darling is to be believed, this represents her last porn performance. Personally, I hope she is lying or changes her mind.

Maybe she was bluffing about that, or maybe she wasn't... All I know is that a new image gallery for Delila was recently posted at Powershotz (check the still images update, dated 2/28/2011). It looks like if she wasn't bluffing about retiring, Steve may have duped her into modeling for him again (hey his words, not mine).

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Well, maybe they should consult me before including those things. I'm tired of pretending I'm not special. I'm tired of pretending like I'm not bitching, a total fricking rock star from Mars, and people can't figure me out; they can't process me. I don't expect them to. You can't process me with a normal brain. Sorry my life is so much bitchin' than yours. I planned it that way. I bleed tiger's blood. I got magic and I got poetry at my fingertips. I am battle-tested bayonets, bro! I've spent the last 10 years effortlessly and magically turning your tin cans into gold. I am on a drug. It's called RALPHUS! It's not available. If you try it once, you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body. Duh. WINNING!

Funny, you don't look Jewish.

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jhlipton wrote:

The columnist sounds like a privledged jerk who thinks that no-one should have rights but him.

That sounds like just about every columnist I have ever read.

I have my own issues with this particular columnist, although I suspect they're not the same as jhlipton's. This particular guy regularly interviews pin-up girls and porn stars, and Toronto's own Maxine X regularly shows up in his columns. Yet while he sings her praises, he says nothing about Canada's outdated obscenity laws.

John M and MaxCoxxx - any chance you guys could work with her? The window is closing for her IMO

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Here’s a little treat from Ring Divas.

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DHT: Is Break the movie that has a scene with a girl tied to a tree and another tied arms outstretched between two trees? I have a vague recollection of seeing a preview clip or pic like that.

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Some folks may find this, ahem, boring...but since we’re on the topic of Wonder Woman: The actress cast in the role is Adrianne Palicki, whom I don’t know, from a show called Friday Night Lights, which I’ve never seen.

Here’s an artist’s conception of what she’ll look like.

Here’s Wonder Woman from the classic TV series.

You be the judge.

Maybe the better news (or not, for those of you who don’t like female villains) is that Elizabeth Hurley has been cast as the baddie.

But the ultimate question is: Are we going to see anything like this?

Still, actress choices aside, what I would REALLY like to see is a movie that captures that BDSM element that was so subtly laced throughout the comic book, in almost all of its incarnations. Alas, I am not holding my breath. To answer your question about whether we will see anything like your graphic: No.

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thx1139: Regarding Irreversible, I liked the scene up until the beating. But I was also aghast at the initial beat-down of the guy in the very beginning. I think the reason was that it was so realistic. None of the over-the-top sound effects of punches Hollywood has trained us to expect. Just the wet, squishy sound of flesh being pulped, and instead of the loud and brittle sound effects of bones being cracked and crushed, just an unnerving thud that made you sure, in your gut, that that was what was happening.

The only other movie scene I can recall as having that raw, understated brutality was the ritual sacrifice of the water buffalo near the end of Apocalypse Now, which I would not be surprised to learn was an actual sacrifice filmed by Coppola which he later assured everyone was just good special effects. Kind of funny how the quieter, more intense violence is the scariest. All in all, I prefer my GIMP loud and over-the-top.

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TGG: Steve doesn't always release everything he shoots immediately, but in the case of the latest Delila Darling pictures, they look like they were stills from a video production he has already released. Since the picture galleries are only available to subscribers, he might have a lot that he is waiting to post. Sadly, I think he has released all of the video shoots he has done with Delila.

I would have been a lot more excited if Steve had announced an upcoming Powershotz shoot with her rather than The Stalker announcing a new Hardcore Abductions shoot. Oh well. We can hope the next one will be better.

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sander62ei: Well, you're in the right place.

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Ralphus: Hey, Red Feline did ask your opinion, so not everyone is denying your GIMP Greatness. Remember, A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and among his own relatives and in his own household. Red Feline and the New Testament, all in the same paragraph. That would only have been cooler if I had managed to (legitimately) reference a Justin Bieber song as well.

As far as sites go, kink.com, clipsfor sale.com are my preferred, but I am getting tired of them. The old good ones like paingate.com and insex.com are gone. Any recomendations out there? I love downloadable clips.

Note: This is not a review of a specific film, but an attempt to critique an entire sub-genre of GIMP media: Superheroines in peril. I've been threatening to review a GIGA video for quite a while, and finally realized that before I can do so, I have to get this out of my system. My rant is long (sorry Ralphus) and it will appeal only to those few with enough patience to read about this arcane subject. There are no links to pictures of Wonder Woman in bondage; everyone here already will know where to find them.

Based on the breadth of topics and films covered on this forum, it should be obvious to even the most casual observer that GIMP material comes in many different flavors, and includes a wide range of sub-categories and core elements. As a result, there is frequent debate about whether tight bondage, nudity, rape, bloodletting, blonde victims, and sadistic frizzy-haired midgets are required in the perfect fantasy scenario.

That's to be expected, but one GIMP sub-culture is so vastly over-represented that it often threatens to dominate the entire spectrum of distressed females. That of course is the "Superheroines in Merciless Peril" movement, which for purposes of distinction I will dub SIMP.

SIMP shares many elements with GIMP, including those listed above (except maybe the midget). That's a good thing, because as stated, there is a virtual plethora of the stuff available. Many GIMPers list SIMP films, art and stories among their favorites, and when done well, SIMP can be as entertaining as any real-world GIMP scene, at least for some of us.

There is a problem though. Actually, several problems: SIMP has evolved into such a powerful faction that it has developed many of its own arcane characteristics, some of which are at odds with the desires of GIMPers who prefer their victims sans superpowers and spandex. Sure, once they're naked and being stretched on a rack, it's easy to forget that Blue Budgie or Lubed Lightning were once mighty avengers in tights -- but SIMP aficionados usually demand a lot of back-story, and for many GIMPers, an hour of PG comic book action is a deal breaker, even if the heroine is ultimately stripped, raped and pummeled into pudding.

So what's the problem? Can't we just jump to the good parts and skip all the fan boy rubbish? To a point, yes... but GIMPers with one foot in reality still have to contend with any or all of the following SIMP hallmarks:

• Most glaringly, a world in which five-foot-two women in brightly colored outfits have the strength of Samson and easily defeat a dozen villains in some of the most uproarious fight scenes ever filmed... until they are overcome by a glowing crystal or green goo, after which they become helpless punching bags.
• Masks, helmets, face wear - almost anything to keep the heroine's identity secret (usually for no apparent reason), thus hiding the features of the very character we want to gawk at.
• Rubber suited monsters and villains who look like they failed auditions on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and speak with modulated voices which make them sound as threatening as Eeyore or the Pillsbury Dough Boy.
• Capes, sailor suits, bows, stiletto heels... what in the business world is commonly referred to as "inappropriate attire". For SIMPers, sartorial style always trumps practicality. For everyone else, credibility circles the drain.

I could go on, but if you're still reading this, you've most likely encountered it all before. Of course, the reason all this inanity squashes believable GIMPery is that SIMP is a mash-up of the traditional GIMP elements we know and love and the superhero ethic which now commands the lion's share of media revenue across the planet. Comic conventions are second only to those featuring home electronics, and given the vast number of fan boys and girls, it's not surprising that quite a few of them develop fetishistic fantasies and are soon roasting their Goddess-girl action figures on the backyard barbecue.

The Japanese have been particularly egregious at taking the superhero cult, and especially the SIMP subculture to unparalleled extremes. In the US, SIMP is mostly an underground 'net phenomenon with a sizable population of followers. In Japan, there are dozens of established production companies churning out SIMP porn, and the adult anime business is huge. Then again, this is not surprising in a country where both GIMP and superhero cultures are not only respectable but happily fly above the radar.

So... will knowing that GIMP and SIMP are different beasts change anyone's opinion of either? Not very likely. GIMPers who are into superheroines will no doubt be big SIMP followers, and judging by the sites devoted to imperiled girls in tights, there are lots of these folks around. GIMPers immune to the charms of Wonder Woman, Pink Ranger, or even Mystique will doubtless steer clear of SIMP, even if it otherwise delivers the goods they desire. And then there are those who decide on a case-by-case basis.

Personally, I'm in this last category. I'm not a comic fan and never was. That said, I've acquired some rather explicit graphic novels (comics for guys in long pants) with hard-core GIMP action involving superheroines, and I have more than a few SIMP videos in my collection (including way too many Japanese titles). Many contain first-rate GIMP scenes.

In other cases, the superhero fluff is just too much to ignore. For instance, I just can't get into a Japanese SIMP video if the heroine is sporting one of those ranger-style, bug-eye helmets until it is (inevitably) bashed off her head in the final five minutes of the film: "Oh my... the ultimate indignity... now they can see my face!"

I also refuse to watch anything featuring a totally nude woman in a mask and bunny ears fighting bad guys with a yo-yo. The credibility gap can only widen so far. However, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so I'll consider anything that looks interesting. Then I'll brace for the worst and enjoy any pleasant surprises that come my way.

See, I'm actually in your camp. I seldom ever read comic books when I was growing up. I was a weird kid; I preferred reading my parent's encyclopedias instead. I never saw one episode of "Wonder Woman", even though I was the perfect age to be a fan during the years it was on. I just never got into fantasy much, and it's continued into my adult years.

I'm not saying I dislike the genre. I was surprised how much I liked ZFX's "Miss Ballista" trilogy, for instance. I'd be curious to see how well most comic book fans would like them, too. I read somewhere that at least one comic book fan said he was disappointed because there wasn't enough of Ballista tied up while wearing her mask and costume. Me, I liked them for just the opposite reason, because there was plenty of the ZFX action I normally like with Lisa already stripped of her costume. I like her naked better than wearing a brightly-colored outfit.

To me, the idea of a superheroine with magical powers being overcome just smacks of...well, phoniness. I don't believe in magic; it's just not realistic, and as I've stated before, my bondage fantasies are all based in reality. I don't just don't get into the superheroine genre, but I totally understand its appeal.

I realize that superheroine bondage scenarios have a lot of fans, and I don't begrudge them in any way just because I don't have the same fetish. But then I have a lot of fetishes that certainly most GIMPers don't get into, either.

Besides, I have an entire folder full of hundreds of "superheroines in danger" pics. I could run a pic a day and not be done for 2 years. Some of these pics are really excellent and they ring my bell big time, so it's time to share with others who may like them even more than me.

Most vanilla porn, which doesn't interest me, but anyway, usually has some sort of fetishistic set up (nurse, school girl, teacher, whatever), which either quickly loses the uniform (and annoys the fetishists) or keeps the uniform (distracting the pure vanillas). An example that Ralphus might appreciate would be a simulated movie where the chick is gagged for the first two minutes, and then the gag comes out never to be seen again.

I'm thankful I'm not a producer, trying to please all the people all the time ;)

For those willing to endure SIMP without any nudity at all (Sorry, Ralphus!), there is the Comic/Cartoon Captives Correspondence Group on Yahoo, which I moderate.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/c3c/

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Poll question: Yep. When scenes become too realistic, it's a turn-off. However, I have become so desensitized to the torture I watch on the screen, that those disturbing scenes are few and far between. They include the original ISOYG, Irreversible, and the August Underground movies. Blood and guts don't bother me, but they are definitely not turn-ons. On the whole, I think ZFX combines the perfect amount of realism and fantasy for my tastes.

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John Galt: Thanks for the great and honest review. Our specific tastes vary, but I agree with your criticisms of Delila & Nichole.

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Ralphus: I'm a tad late, but thanks for the excellent review of Fantom. It's always good to read multiple opinions of the same movie. I agree with Fritz that for a two-hour movie, I'd prefer to see a bit more action that has to do with the plot or character development. Still, two hours of Jane being tied and tortured is nothing to sneeze at.

So I guess it's my turn to step up and add to the review section (and my first attempt at adding pics):

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THE FINAL (2010)

The Final is another in the never-ending string of high school revenge thrillers. The geeks, oddballs and goth girl get repeatedly abused by the jock clique and the stuck-up hot slutty clique. But then something clicks--a plot for mass revenge and mayhem.

The set-up isn't too bad, despite the horridly cliched tormentors. The guys are beefy, racist, rather brain-dead football players. The women are air-heads whose conversations consist 90% of boasts about who they've slept with and how sexy they look.

They all get invited to a costume party in the middle of the woods, where the spiked punch knocks them out and they awaken chained together and prepared for torturous revenge by the weaklings of the school.

Sadly, the movie falls apart from there, despite the two GIMP scenes.

Heather (Julin), the annoying head slut, is strapped to their torture chair and ballgagged. Goth girl Emily (Lindsay Seidel) applies some corrosive gunk on Heather's face that will slowly and painfully eat away her flesh.

Her struggling is weak. There's only scant mmmphing. And the scene is much too short. Her actual suffering occurs offscreen.

The second scene is better. Bridget (Whitney Hoy) gets strapped to the chair and head bully Bradley is forced to cut off her fingers with garden shears. She gets cleave-gagged by the goth girl as she screams in horror.

Despite the bloody aspect of the scene (it's not that gory), it was more effective because the actual suffering was onscreen. She also gets the acid facial treatment.

This film also has a needle attack, a nail gun assault and maiming, but you know what? It just wasn't mean enough. I had absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for the bullies. But then I turned against the oddballs because of their emotionless torturing methods. Their revenge simply lacked passion, making them into quite dull "villains."

And Dane, their leader, spends way too much time trying to act and talk like the Jigsaw puppet in the Saw series.

Another huge problem was the lack of nudity or rape.

The women use their hotness as the key weapon in their bullying ways. No one would give a shit about these bimbos if they weren't good looking. Thus, they should have been SEXUALLY tortured! Especially since the outcasts' goal was to emotionally scar the bullies for the rest of their lives.

For example, Heather proudly tells her cohorts about their sexy cop costumes: "They scream, 'We love sex, but not with you.'" What the producers should have done is have Dane say later to her, "This automatic rifle screams, 'I'm gonna love having sex with you, and there's nothing you can do to stop me."

And why the hell wasn't blond bully Kelli (Laura Ashley Samuels) tortured? Or at least naked? She was the hottest of the bunch.

C'mon guys. If you're gonna terrorize your obnoxious and annoying classmates, have some real fun!

The final grade?

C for both the movie and the GIMP scenes.

AMAZON

Also, I recently had Fayth and Mallory shoot some Batgirl vs. Catwoman scenes for me, using a really good spandex Batgirl suit and a cape I found online (2 different companies).

DHT - "Break" came on the radar a few months back but I just couldn't pull the trigger on that one - just seemed from the synopses that scenario has been done to death - have you seen the movie yet?

Brutus - from the stills of "The Final" one would expect a better product than C grade material - what a shame - thanks for that review.

Ralphus - now it's your turn to go to the penalty box - five minute major for the Charlie Sheen rant.

Gimp vs Simp huh - pretty much the same take as Gigas - just can't seem to acquire a taste for them - probably has more to do with the foppish outfits than anything else.

Stay well all

Paingate.com and whippedwomen.com are both still up and running strong with pretty nice models--many without tats and or plastic. They cover a lot of tastes as long as they are whipping related: front, back, pussy, bullwhip, singletail, flogger. The girls definitely get marked (though not like ElitePain.com). They often have a "story"--though I'm fine without that when they are as weak-assed as most on bondage sites. Many are not terribly consensual, though there are some "brought to orgasm with the whip". The prices are fairly high, but I check in every few months and if there are enough models of interest, scenes of interest in the teasers, I'll sign up for a month and get 5-8 photosets and videos, of which at least a few will be worthwhile.

To weigh in on another earlier topic of the Fantom fotosets: The moms in my day used to tell their daughters "why would a guy buy the cow when he can get the milk for free?" Rather crude, but it prefigures marketing theory that a "tease" sells, where showing everything for free doesn't. My theory about Jane is that she is the GIMP version of the girl-next-door, the one we all wish we had for our girlfriend who just happened to be really into the same stuff we are. But we are guys, after all (many of us), and all have had the experience of finding even the most incredible woman start to get...well, let's just say less exciting after you've been with her every day for a while. That's when you check out your maturity level.

I bought Fantom the first or second day it was out and had watched it and had the same response as the one which the group seems to have devolved to. How could it begin to feel boring to have a woman whose body I adore hanging up, being whipped, responding to the pain? I don't know, but it happens. As they say, it's a lot harder to write a poem than a novel, because you have to be selective. I'd like to see a little more selectivity in RF videos--and (from a business standpoint) a lot more tease in their teasers.

FYI for other SIMPathizers-ringdivas will be releasing info on their next heroine "grindhouse" (read exploitation) movie Akiren in the coming weeks. I'll keep u all posted unless someone beats me to it.

I nominate this for the finest piece of writing ever to appear on the forum. I have no idea what it says, but I'm sure you never wrote speeches for George Bush in a past life.

Fritz wrote:
Most glaringly, a world in which five-foot-two women in brightly colored outfits have the strength of Samson and easily defeat a dozen villains in some of the most uproarious fight scenes ever filmed... until they are overcome by a glowing crystal or green goo, after which they become helpless punching bags.

Masks, helmets, face wear - almost anything to keep the heroine's identity secret (usually for no apparent reason), thus hiding the features of the very character we want to gawk at.

Rubber suited monsters and villains who look like they failed auditions on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and speak with modulated voices which make them sound as threatening as Eeyore or the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

Capes, sailor suits, bows, stiletto heels... what in the business world is commonly referred to as "inappropriate attire". For SIMPers, sartorial style always trumps practicality. For everyone else, credibility circles the drain.

As a regular Giga viewer, I share many of your sentiments, although I find many of Giga's problems typical of the Japanese "rape" genre.

GIGA verse typical Jap AV

1) The five foot two superhero. I'm just as annoyed when Attackers rape victims are held or tied down while pleasured with vibrators, and not held down when they are raped or give head.

But au contraire, I must give GIGA some credit over the rest of the Japanese AV market. At least in many cases the "take down" scene isn't ten seconds while the girl is getting "raped" while riding on top, for fifteen minutes. In many of the Giga movies some very hot chicks in suggestive clothing suffer serious merciless beat downs.

2) Mask and Helmets. I must admit I have watched more then one GIGA flick where I almost threw the remote at the screen yelling take the damn helmet off. Although they had this one chick with the BIG hat costume, where I actually started yelling put the hat back on :)

But Au Contraire, I'm a waist man. There is nothing sexier to me then a tight little sexy stomach and rib cage stretched out and gasping for breath. But in a uncountable majority of AV rape flicks, the villain pulls up or takes off the bra, pulls down or tears off the panties, and slides the damn dress up to cover the girls sexiest parts, the remote goes flying through the air, and I'm yelling.

3) The Rubber suited GIGA monsters, ah yes, the aliens that would strike fear in the minds of any drunk three year old. This is certainly one of GIGA's weak-spots. I remember one alien with the one lobster claw arm that literally had me laughing but Roa Sumikawa is hot and she sold it.

But Au Contraire, in traditional Jap AV one thing is obvious, you don't have to be physically imposing or have a big wang to get the part. The wang is censored out, and it's hard to look ominously threatening, when you're shorter than the petite detective you just captured and you're threatening her with a female sex toy.

4) Capes and tights or just a hat? Well I must admit, I pick most of the GIGA flicks I spend money on based on the costume. A bare mid-rift is a plus, a helmet or mask is a big minus. But GIGA offers a couple of series, the Wrestling series, and a few of their heroines do have decent costumes. As long as they get the damn thing off, it doesn't really bother me.

But Au Contraire, this might be the one place where the typical Jap-Attackers flick has an edge. But please explain to me, why do they put clothes back on the girl? I've seen more then one AV flick where clothes that were taken off by the villain were evidently placed back on for the next scene. What kind of twisted logic is this? Next thing you know we'll have unrest in the Middle East and the price of oil will go down!

In conclusion, while GIGA movies have much to criticize, it is my belief that they are still the best Gimp ticket for the money. And I've never been to a comic book or Star Trek convention in my life. But I haven't seen better and more realistic whipping scenes, stomach punching scenes or electrical torture scenes with any other Jap vendor. And in many cases the rapes actually look like rapes where girls are actually held or tied down and protesting, these are good things for us gimpers. Are they perfect?

The Ballista Series had its moments no doubt. Unfortunately, they also suffered from many of maladies that inflect GIGA's product. I threw the remote when they had the Electric torture scene in Ballista 2 with the cereal bowl on Lisa's head. And then there was Ballista three with that stupid gas mask. I prefer helmets to that thing, what was that? I liked ZFX especially with Lisa and Allison Parish (one of the most underrated gimp victims ever) but they got carried away with some of their implements too. Some of those torture hats and helmets were as bad as anything GIGA did.

For those interested in the SIMP genre, I will now shamelessly plug my website, www.bcotd.com, which has a vast (or at least half-vast) archive of comic book bondage covers. I'm currently featuring paperback book covers on the main page, so ignore that and go straight to the archive page.

Let me second the recommendation of Bondage Cover of the Day...a daily ritual for me with some outstanding book covers. And he just posted a high-quality scan of my favorite book, "Let's Go Play At The Adams'". And I had no idea there was an archive page; now I can go back and grab what I missed. What a treasure trove for bondage fans.

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Brutus: Another fine review of The Final. That was one I watched a while back and considered reviewing myself. I'm in complete agreement with everything you wrote. The story had promise, but overall didn't really deliver as well as I would have liked. I wanted to like the GIMP scenes, but like you said, they were too short to be really worthwhile. Nice stills, though. And I totally agree...the hottest babe in the movie was left virtually untouched, just some weak hands in front bondage. What were they thinking? I would have tied her down, tortured her and just gone off on her sexually...for no other reason than she was cute. She would have been a fun victim. Oh well, another missed opportunity. That seems to be the rule rather than the exception in mainstream flicks these days.

The direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

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Sloth wrote:

Ralphus - now it's your turn to go to the penalty box - five minute major for the Charlie Sheen rant.

Charlie who?

Like in Today’s Pic?

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Brutus Thanks for the heads up on The Final. I was keenly interested in checking this one out, but now...not so much.

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elkcreek wrote: There is nothing sexier to me than a tight little sexy stomach and rib cage stretched out and gasping for breath.

Oh, man...I dig that too. That’s why I love rack scenes.

And judging from the stills, it's definitely a shame the film has no nudity.

Here's a few stills from Hank:

http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/hank-girl-boss-guerilla-miki-sugimoto-11.jpg

http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/hank-girl-boss-guerilla-miki-sugimoto-15.jpg

http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/hank-girl-boss-revenge-sukeban-miki-sugimoto-0005.jpg

http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/hank-girl-boss-revenge-sukeban-miki-sugimoto-0009.jpg

I had a couple days of the standard you exceded your sign in and all the other stuff. I must been having a memory fart and didn't go to Dolcett to see what is happening.

I'm thinking I'll check out that low-quality version of Girl Boss Guerilla this weekend.

Yeah, me too. Or at least a few installments of it.

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abas wrote: I love hanging women

If you haven’t done so already, you might want to head over to WAVE Productions; they have a search feature that you can use to find all of their movies about “hanging.”

There’s another group that puts out hanging movies, but their name escapes me. Someone here will remember.

EWP (Eyewitness Productions) has a nice assortment of women hanged. Check out any of the model pages for samples. Most are non-nude pre-mortum, but a few are topless. I like their stranglings (they use a thin, tight garrote, which I love), but they do about 1 strangling for every 2 hangings.

The URL above shows a fairly typical hanging.

Admit it -- you missed me, didn't you??? LOL

The photo in my homepage URL is supposed to be of a Japanese woman whipped in a video produced by Art S&M. I cannot remember where I got the photo, nor do I recall ever seeing the video, tho I do remember that the place I found the photo said it was a pretty thorough whipping of this girl. I searched the Art S&M website in vain trying to find it and did find another short clip from Cinemagic that looked similar. I do not know how to post the clip here, and given copyright issues not sure I should.

Anyway if anyone knows, or can point me to the source of, or the actual Art S&M video I'd appreciate it.

I recall Oslo's old WSIMD, now here thanks to Ralphus and have been fan of whipping scenes long as I can remember, and I can remember a long time. I find the Japanese whipping scenes to be somehow better, especially some of the Nikkatsu stuff from way back. Art S&M used to be good too, but like many Japanese sites has succumbed to the poking things inside girls style of S&M.

So I guess my question is, aside from help with the photo, is, who does better whipping scenes, Japan or US, or other, and do you prefer mainstream movie scenes, or more hardcore?

One thing I love about Japan is the intensity of the torture they deliver to their women in bondage films. If you're asking who does better whipping scenes, I can say with upmost certainty that the best whipping scenes I've ever seen have come from Japan. I don't think most US production companies come close. I don't think there's anybody in the US who can dish it out like a Randa Mai, for instance. In fact, I think some of the other foreign companies like Whipped Women, Paingate and Elite Pain are probably closer to Japan than the US. The thing is, I don't usually enjoy their productions as much as the Japanese because of the consensual nature of their storylines.

I'm one who often prefers mainstream whipping scenes to commercial ones, even though they are usually shorter and often simulated. That's why I wanted to resurrect and maintain Oslo's site, because that kind of information is important and should be preserved for future generations of movie fans who like these mainstream scenes. I always get a kick out of watching a movie and there's some unexpectedly sadistic violence that crops up, like a woman getting whipped or shocked or stretched on a rack. Somehow it makes it more "legitimate" if it occurs in a mainstream movie as opposed to a commercial bondage video. I dunno, does that makes sense? What do the rest of you think?

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J wrote: I find the Japanese whipping scenes to be somehow better, especially some of the Nikkatsu stuff from way back.

Gotta agree with you and Ralphus on this one; the Japanese deliver some very exciting whipping scenes. You might recall that a while back, you identified one that I described as a scene from Nun Story: Frustration in Black which I obtained, viewed and reviewed. It had two very intense whippings like this one...

...and this one.

I prefer mainstream scenes (when they’re available) for the same reasons Ralphus mentioned. In general, I think one can count on Japanese actresses (at least from that period) to really sell the scene.

I too was a regular visitor to Oslo’s WSIMD, and it’s good that it found a home here. Just before he shut down, Oslo distributed a CD with assorted un-named Japanese whipping scenes. Nun Story was one of them. I think it’d be fun to post some caps from the others and see if folks here can help identify them. They’d look good in the whipping database, if only they had names.

Among the euro/US mainstream movies I have seen, my favorite is probably from Ms Stiletto. I think its in the WSIM database here. Its brief, but well done.

As far as the more "hardcore" offerings, I still rate the Japanese higher. Maybe its the language barrier, but there seems to be an aura of menace in the whip scenes missing from others. "Whipped Women/Paingate" come to mind as lacking that quality. Red Feline is improving, but is so mechanical and the restraints often appear (and are) haphazardly done. I have not seen their newest offering so maybe they have overcome some of that.

As far as my searching, both for new whip scenes, and my photo query, I think I have, like the old commercial said, "reached the end of the internet".

As far as the talk of Oslo and the old WSIMD, the compilations started by him were absorbed by punishmovies.com, and the 27 clip packages they have available at the link above include many rare scenes. I think the scene YikYakker talks about might be in one of the first few clip packages at the link above.

If we made these movies shorter some people would complain about that too. Right?

Not me.

I can't speak for others, but the issue for me isn't long movies vs. short movies. Frankly, anyone who remembers my review of the 3.5-hour long Slave Island 7 will know I enjoy long movies if they're done right (and have no problem with long reviews, for that matter).

The issue for me is how tight are the scenes. While I guess there are people out there who like the long, lingering shots, I find they slow things down and dull the overall impact of the movie. It doesn't happen often, but I think Ralphus and I agree on this point.

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Margot also wrote:

The good news is that we're taking those comments in consideration. In the next production Jane will prod JJ to be more dramatic and work more for his pay check, not that he gets one. We'll linger shorter times on the beautiful bodies in state of rest before more torture and we'll leave some things for the imagination and we'll see how that works.

This is good to hear. Add in a rape or two, and I'm confident you'll be happy with the results.

I also liked the moments in that one film (I can't remember the title) where Jane was being dragged around in the mud. That type of commitment to scenes of humiliation and degradation has to be applauded and should be supported.

Among the euro/US mainstream movies I have seen, my favorite is probably from Ms Stiletto. I think its in the WSIM database here. Its brief, but well done.

Oh yeah, we've got Ms Stiletto listed. We used to have a video link for it back in the old YouTied days. Pretty harder to find a cuter whipping victim than Brigitte Skay. One of my favorites, too.

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Margot: Nice to see you back on the forum, again with a typically encyclopedic posting. I don't know how you find the time, but your posts are always well worth investing the effort to read. I've been seeing notices and stills about Martyr on JJ's Facebook page and was taken by the beauty of its star. I didn't realize that she was the same woman who appeared in the older analog VHS movies that Red Feline used to put out. I haven't seen any of those, but it's good that she stuck around long enough to film her with today's modern hi def technology.

How long should a movie be? Well, Roger Ebert said "No good movie is too long and no bad movie is short enough." Of course, he's talking about mainstream movies and not necessarily bondage films, but a good rule of thumb for me is when I feel the urge to hit the fast-forward button, then a scene has run on long enough.

Every major bondage filmmaker I'm familiar with is sometimes guilty of excessive padding...ZFX, Dan Hawke, Red Feline, Powershotz, the Japanese Attackers series...all of them. Some people like to actually watch the process of tying the victim up, others get bored with it. And sometimes you end with endless shots of her struggling once she's tied up, which can be exciting in small doses but it's easy to go overboard when you find yourself repeating the same shots over and over.

Scribbler told me on more than one occasion that the old HOM loops were the perfect length for a bondage movie...10 to 15 minutes. Back then, Blakemore was shooting on film and had to be economical and only show the action. Thus, his films flow with an intensity that is unmatched by today's modern films, because you're only seeing the good parts.

Today's filmmakers have the luxury of using video, which can run and run continuously without having to worry about it costing them more. As a result, oftentimes there's excessive footage included that isn't necessarily conducive to the overall quality of the production, and it slows down the pace when the viewer wants to just move on and get to the next scene. So it's a tough call to decide what to include and what to take out. The temptation is to include everything, which was one of the problems I had with Fantom. It would have been a better film if it had only been shorter.

What do the rest of you think?

Came to the forum, and immediately saw my name! Anyway, pretty sure I never quite said that. I wouldn't specify 10 to 15 as perfect, but it certainly worked for HOM 8mm film loops.

Here's an excerpt from my very first post to this forum on July 29, 2000:

"As a big fan of HOMs output in it's early years, I'd like to see zfx or any production company, study the better HOM film loops, the style, lighting, content (zfx needs more HOM style crotchropes!), pacing, tight editing (yes I know part of the reason for tight editing was the 15 minutes max per reel, but that's not the only reason for good editing). The video could be called 'HOMage' and have four 20 to 40 minute HOM style segments on it. Plus add sound, dialog, music that works, and simulated rape and dildo insertion. And if it's good, it would be one instance where I wouldn't mind sequels! Yeah, I know, it'll never happen."

(Note: I wrote this before I ever saw an HOM Erotic Perversion movie which of course have plenty of actual dildo insertions that HOM movies for the USA couldn't do.)

At any rate, I don't know if there's a perfect length, but with one girl-in-movie-peril victim and one or more assailants, 10 to 40 minutes seems workable, but the major thing is no or very limited padding. No inducing "this is getting boring now" reactions in the viewer. Pacing is key. If the viewer has an inkling to press fast-forward, the editor has failed. As I heard in film school, regarding editing: "you have to be willing to kill your darlings" (aka footage you really want to put in the movie but as a good, aware editor you know the movie is better without it). Which is an easier thing to do these days cause of DVD deleted scene extras!

OK, so after writing the above I read the rest of Ralphus' post. This has come up before, been discussed, and yeah, Ralphus and I agree. Except for the above specific sentence attributed to me.

I looked at what Margot wrote on the same topic. Yeah, I don't know. No pro editor I know would leave some editing to the viewer. He'd feel (know) he's not doing his job. But maybe this is a new trend I'm not aware of with the chapter jumping when the viewer gets bored. I don't see that working, but maybe that's just me.

"People would be missing something right?" Missing padded, fast-forward twitchy finger footage is a good thing. That stuff should go. Plus if it wasn't there, they wouldn't know they're missing it! Unless you include it on the DVD extras.

I had always been tempted by the Red Feline movies but never pulled the trigger until now given that there seemed to be a lot of AOH in this release and Camille looked hot.

Crux 1 starts with a masked villain leading a hot Camille, clad in only a black loin cloth and a torn black top, to the whipping post where she is tied AOH with her back facing us but with a mirror in front of her so we can kinda see her front. The masked man then whips her back for about 3 minutes. Then he flips her around so we can see the front of her. Camille's body looks amazing in the AOH position and her reactions to the whipping are a lot better now that we can see her face. The villain rips her top so we can see her nice breasts and the whipping ensues for about another 3 minutes.

Camille passes out and the villain takes the opportunity to untie her to ready her for crucifixion which I guess is RF's thing. We are treated to 5 minutes of a passed out topless Camille on the floor with her lash marks before the bad guy starts tying her to the cross on the ground. Then the nails go through her hands which causes Camille to writhe around. After a couple of minutes, the villain raises the crucified Camille to the whipping post. Then he nails her feet to the bottom completing the crucifixion. The villain strips her nude and we see Camille hung up there for another 3 minutes.

Crux 2 starts the same way as #1- with Camille getting led to the whipping post to be tied AOH. This time she's wearing a blue/gray ripped top and a white loin cloth. The whipping on her back begins. Her facial reactions seen on the mirror in front of her are better than part 1 but inconsistent. Still no verbal moaning though which is a bit unrealistic but Camille's body looks great, especially with her left breast showing. Again at about the 3 minute mark, the villain takes Camille down. This time she just writhes a little on the ground and the camera explores her lashed body. After a couple of minutes, the villain then strings up Camille AOH again, this time with her sweet body facing us and both of her breasts showing below the ripped top. Camille writhes around a little before the whipping starts again, still with little audible moaning. Her facial reactions are better than part 1 but slightly more consistent.

After another 3 minutes, the villain takes her down off the whipping post. After a couple of minutes on the ground, we fade into Camille tied AOH to the post in a sitting position. The villain unties her but fastens the arm cross to her right away. She is made to walk a little and receives some lashes before crumbling to the floor. Then the nails through the hands come again along with Camille's writhing but no audible screams or moaning. After a couple of minutes of watching Camille's pained face, the villain raises the cross to the whipping post and then nails her feet to it. We then see a dazed, nude Camille on the cross for a few minutes before the movie finishes.

IMO, the whipping was not convincing and the acting wasn't great. Unfortunately, all the torture was whipping and nails, the latter not really being my thing. And similar to what Ralphus said about Fantom, some scenes run too long. Camille looked very hot though, which counts. Since this is an early RF production, it sounds like they now have more convincing whipping and Jane is a good actress. With that said, I have to give this early effort a C.

I have a lot of things I'd like to say, but I'm going to be in and out today offering short posts, rather than write one long, lingering post that people may want to fast-forward through. ;)

I encounter this long-short issue in my line of work, whenever I do workshops or classes. There's a temptation to over-prepare, to want to have all of the answers available to everyone with questions. But that results in trying to cram too much into a short amount of time, and people get turned off very easily. So I have to agree with Canadian and others, pacing and variety are the keys to an effective presentation, whether it's film, music or whatever.

I would just add that changing camera angles can also be effective. That's where I thought Romana Crucifix Est was an improvement over Perils of Jane, Episode 1. So we may be seeing a trend in more recent Red Feline productions, departing from past practices.

I expect to have yet another story completed fairly soon. A very long one in two Parts (both Parts of which will stand alone without the other), again with a few things that I haven't tried before. It will be called CHOICE ALTERNATIVES and is set in West Berlin in 1985. I'll let you know as soon as that that story is ready.

I guess Rick and ZFX are retired!

To return to Margot and Red Feline, I believe it was through this site that I first found Red Feline. It has been fascinating to watch the evolution of that group, one which Margot just reviewed. Whether it was ZFX or Insex, those companies all evolved thru the years, becoming better and more complex. That is a process that appears to be peaking at Red Feline.

I know I for one have on occasion been critical of Jan in general - his acting or lack of it, his lighting or lack of it, etc. However, Red Feline is HIS vision and HIS passion and what he has accomplished is remarkable. I'm sure anyone of us would be thrilled to have one companion with the looks, intelligence, talent, and passion of Margot, Camille, Gabrielle, or Jane. Women who not only work with him but contribute in no small extent to his vision. And Jan, has not one but 4 (that we presently know of) so he obviously must be doing something right. So, despite some of the nit picking criticism of Jan that goes on (of which I have been guilty) I would just like to voice my appreciation for his vision and the effort he puts into it - although I'm sure he needs no reward, the company he keeps and the product he produces are a reward in themselves.

Didn't mean to ramble, just like to emphasize again what a great source of information and entertainment this site (The Gimp) has been, and to once again thank Ralphus for all his hard work and effort.

I guess Rick and ZFX are retired!

Who knows? We do know for certain that Lisa Kinkaid has retired. Rick announced that on the forum in 2009.

As for ZFX, I think the last thing I remember reading was about Rick working on an animated project, or something like that. Whether or not there will be another ZFX movie is an open question -- certainly, it doesn't look like ZFX has a busy production schedule.

Recognizing that this is an early RF effort, I think I'll probably go the VOD route because, as you noted, Camille is hot.

You also wrote: Unfortunately, all the torture was whipping and nails, the latter not really being my thing.

Of course, whipping is always a favorite of mine, but I think I would enjoy the nailing more if a certain technique were to be used. In the episode of Xena: Warrior Princess featuring the crucifixion of Xena and Gabrielle (in a wintry outdoor setting), the soldiers first roped the victims hands palm side up, as shown in this picture...

...then placed flat blocks of wood against the palms and drove the spikes through the blocks, into the palm, and thence into the crossbeam. Now, this is not only a historically accurate technique, but it successfully created the illusion that the two ladies were indeed getting nailed. It's pretty hard to fake nailing, but if JJ could borrow that technique and pull it off, I think the illusion would work much better.

It sounds like Jane is going to use her powers to address the "whippings" issue, so I'm sure we'll see some stronger whippings in future releases.

As far as nails and crucifixions go, I think Red Feline does this as well as can be expected. I don't know about the earlier movies, but I remember enjoying the crucifixion scene in Agent X far more than I expected, especially since this isn't normally an area that does anything for me.

Looks like the upcoming (or perhaps recently released) Witcher 2 had or has a brief "almost" torture scene while the main character is attempting escape from a medieval dungeon. See the attached link starting at about 2:41

Rumor has it the game developers didn't like how the scene was perceived in a sexual manner when shown on a pre-release demo. Talks were they might remove it, sadly not even keeping in theme with the Witcher games, which is supposedly full of dark/gritty and mature fantasy elements and nudity.

Here it was that I viewed for the first time stills from the Red Feline production "Fantom". Here it was that I first saw the lovely Jane von Detlefson's naked body in a hogtie, in strappado, and hanging from her wrists. No tats, no piercings, no silicone, no tan lines. And I thought to myself, "I'm in love."

I bought "Fantom" and I liked it very much. It has more of what I hope to see in a production of this nature.

First off, what I don't expect in a fetish movie is a convincing plot, or competent acting, or interesting dialogue. I usually turn the sound off so I don't have to hear the utterly banal dialogue or embarrassingly unconvincing groans and gasps of the "actors". Just give me the visual stimulation, and I'll provide my own fantasy, thank you very much. So I appreciate the fact that in "Fantom" there really isn't any attempt at verbal sparring or witty repartee. Nobody says much of anything.

What I do hope for is an attractive woman bound in simple yet stringent positions, lighting that allows me to see what is going on, and direction that isn't obsessed with quick cuts and tricky camera angles and random zooms of particular body parts (let's get a microscopic view of a nipple for ten or fifteen seconds, then let's cut away and fill the screen with her foot. But let's make sure we never give them a long shot of her body hanging there in bondage because that would be borrrrring.)

What impressed me most about "Fantom," other than the physical attractiveness of Jane, is that it allows the viewer to have a good look at the scene. It's not just that it's well lit, which it is, but the scenes are not always busy with JJ whipping Jane, or groping her, or what have you. We get to see her just hanging around. I like that. I really like that. I think "Fantom" is weakest when the director gives in to the urge to create visual interest by tricky camera angles or zooms or quick cuts.

There is a whole lot of whipping going on in "Fantom." No fake blood, fortunately. Whippings hold a place of honor in my fantasy life, but whippings in movies look really fake. Not that I've ever seen a real one. Not that I ever want to. But the whippings in movies are typically dreary affairs. At least in "mainstream" movies the whips look real. Nevertheless Kate Winslet couldn't sell the whipping in "Quills" and she's an Oscar winner. In fetish movies whips look like feather dusters and are wielded with a corresponding intensity. I have to say that the whippings in "Fantom" are more convincing than the average, but not convincing enough to do much for me. Your mileage may vary.

I'm a real sucker for inquisition/medieval settings. So I'm really looking forward to "Maleficarum". Thanks again to the forum for turning me on to that. How awesome would it be if this movie had good production values, convincing acting, a believable (even if rudimentary) plot, and good looking, naked ladies being bound and tortured? Could it be the Holy Grail I've long sought? Only time will tell.

Finally, I just want to give another shout out to the folks at Red Feline for the work they do, and Ralphus for bringing people from every corner of the virtual world to learn and share with each other in a spirit of peace and harmony. Sigh. If only the rest of the world could be like the GIMP forum.

MAV: Thank you so much, sir, for your comprehensive review of one of Red Feline's older works. It reads a lot like what I would expect from the trailer on the site, lots of whipping with a crucifixion finale...or rather 2 finales, since this is a double feature. Clearly, whipping and crucifixion are what Red Feline is best known for, and you can't get much hotter than Camille Duka. Might be interesting to see what the rest of the series brings, since Margot said there were 10 in all. I definitely find Camille attractive, which helps right there.

The direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

You know, in the less than 2 years since Jane first started posting here, the number of Red Feline reviews posted here have grown from just one all the way up to 15 now. I was barely aware of the company before Jane e-mailed me and asked if she could start posting here. And now look what's happened. There's clearly an advantage to producers using our forum to interact with fans and potential fans. And how many here aren't anxiously awaiting Maleficarum just because of Margot's illuminating posts?

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Eda Chang: Congrats on the publication of your new story. I hope that people will post some feedback for you on the forum, since that's the only way writers get acknowledgment. Guys, she doesn't get paid, so if you like her stuff, tell her.

I recently heard back from another acclaimed writer who's interested in having her stories posted here, as well. The updated Stories section is just one of a few projects Scribbler and I are working on. Slowly.

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Falstaff: Thanks for the kind words. I try to make the board an entertaining place to visit every day. Right now I'm working pretty hard to make sure we're ready for our big 12th Anniversary Party coming up on March 29. Just a couple weeks away.

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Jon Smithie: Terrific first post! Let's hope it's not your last one, like so many others who tease us with interesting things to say and then are never heard from again. We hope you'll be back, because what you had to say was exactly the type of post that makes this forum worthwhile. And not just because of all the praise you heaped on me (although it is definitely appreciated).

First off, I can't take credit for creating the forum, that was The Gimp, the man who started it all back in 1999. But I've been here from Day One and I've run it for about the last decade or so.

I'm glad you liked Fantom, probably more than I did. I think the film was made for an audience of a person like you who appreciates the beauty of seeing lingering shots of a woman in bondage and who isn't as concerned with dialogue or a plot. I was raised on ZFX films which consistently fulfilled my fantasies of rape, bondage and torture of innocent girls and who did it with often entertaining storylines. That's a hard act to duplicate, and if you can't pull it off, that can bring a movie crashing down pretty fast. But I appreciate it when companies at least try to come up with some sort of story, something I can at least believe. That's really the key for me.

I would have loved to seen Xena and Gabby "nailed" on a cross, if you know what I mean (and I think you do). Forcing them to watch each being raped while dying ever so slowly -- I would be in heaven!

Anyone who knows from which movie this videoclip is from? It shows military electrotorture of a young white woman and it's about 4 minutes long.

MAV said:

I also liked the moments in that one film (I can't remember the title) where Jane was being dragged around in the mud. That type of commitment to scenes of humiliation and degradation has to be applauded and should be supported.

Margot, you may owe MAV an apology, as he would never make such a simplistic statement. The sentences above were actually written by me.

And this time, for the first time in our 12 years or so of existence, someone actually opened up his wallet for us to work on a movie. That's amazing. It triggered something in us. It's not the amount that meant so much even if at the start of Maleficarum it meant a whole lot. It's the act. Someone willing to put his money in our venture. It meant a great deal to us and made us take a big leap of faith.

Well, like I said before, I really just wanted to see Jane get roasted. Roasting a girl on a spit has always been a huge fantasy for me. I knew from watching Agent X that Jane was very skilled at playing a victim, and of course, physically, she rings my bell. From past conversations with her, I knew she was onboard and genuinely wanted to film this scene, and do it for real, not just simulated. The only thing standing in the way was that she didn't think they could make their money back.

I'm not rich; believe me, I'm much, much closer to poor. But if the only thing preventing me from getting my dream scene filmed was this donation, I was willing to go for it. When Jane wrote me back and said that for the kind of money I was offering, they could not only do a roasting, but an Inquisition-type film including a burning at the stake, it really wasn't that hard a decision. And based on the descriptions and vidcaps we've gotten since shooting began, I'm pretty sure it was a wise one.

I join in the sentiment of praise for this site. It's great to be here and I'll continue to share my thoughts, comments, ramblings, etc.

Well, you've made it a whole lot better just by being here and contributing, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Long short--Thanks Eda! I really like your stories. Especially this last, autobiographical one.

I've tickled the keyboard myself to the tune of five stories--they've all been posted on Alebeard's and Emma's Rape, Pillage and Plunder website. I've posted a couple of them on the BDSM library under my nom de plume Jon Smithie. I'm sorry if this seems like shameless product placement but as you said, the only reward we writers get is the adulation of our fans. And so far, I have to admit, I don't seem to have a whole lot of fans. But I sense the GIMP crowd might appreciate my artistic vision, or at least tell me if my stuff is crap. I'd like to submit stories to the GIMP website, when that becomes a possibility.

As a teaser I'll pitch a story idea I'm toying with--inspired by Red Feline's crucifixion movies--so would that mean I would be writing cruci-fiction?-- Anyhoo Saturnalia was the big midwinter blow-out in Ancient Roman times. They did all kinds of wild shit to celebrate, among them masters would pretend to be slaves, and slaves masters. The slaves might order the masters about, or mock them. The masters would serve the slaves their evening meal. I can well imagine that the extent of this celebration would vary from one villa to another, and I'm sure that the slaves would have to tread very carefully not to overstep their bounds, even in jest.

But that gave me an idea--A beautiful Roman noblewoman and her slave have grown up together, have become, in the mind of the noblewoman at least, more like sisters or friends than Mistress and Slave. So they trade roles for a day during Saturnalia. The slave woman makes her Mistress wear the revealing and worn out clothes of a field slave, and sends her on an errand to deliver a message. This is all in good fun, thinks the noblewoman/slave girl. What she doesn't realize until it's too late is that the message is to a slave dealer, instructing him that the bearer is to be whipped, crucified for a day or two, then sold to a brothel in a far-flung post of the Legion. And so Ave Imperator! Te scribemori salutant! As we used to say at the Coliseum Sports Desk.

Jon

over 100 pics from "Kladivo Na Carodejnice aka Hexenjagd" online.

check out the best realistic witchfinder mainstreammovie in world.

greets and a nice week for all Tarl

As far as it being the best mainstream witchfinder movie, well, let's just say this is one that Maleficarum should be able to beat on sheer casting alone.

Check out Tarl's site; the direct link for that album is in my Homepage URL. These caps are a thing of beauty.

Here's a few teasers:

http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/witches51.jpg

http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/witches52.jpg

http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/witches69.jpg

But I haven't fleshed it out (so to speak) near so well as you have. Thanks!

*Mother I'd Like to Kill

Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to reading your latest story with the Roth-like central character, Eda Chang.

Hope all is well with everyone.

Just a few comments:

MR.BUSH: No, I haven't retired. As Ralphus said, I've been working sporadically on some animated projects. I'm not shooting anything at the moment but probably will be in the not too distant future.

Super Heroines: When I did Ballista, I really wanted it to be a campy, gritty and down to earth story. There are still elements of fantasy like magic powers and monsters but those are controled by the villains instead of the heroine. Ballista was meant to be similar to the Bat Girl archetype. That may not be to everyone's taste, but that's the way I did it.

Elkcreek: A couple more targets for your remote, or maybe mouse in this case=)

On a completely different note, I have been watching the awful stuff going on in Japan right now. I'm a big fan of Japanese culture, particularly their bondage movies and hate to see such a magnificent country and people trashed. I hope things get better there soon.

That's it for now..

Rick

Yep, nothing personal Rick but that wok on top of Lisa's head was a terrible idea. And I loved the first Ballista movie, and liked the second up to the stir-fry scene.:) What ever happened to Allison Parish? She was one of my favorites.

MAV wrote: SIMP alert from ringdivas.com. Trailer for their new film Akiren is out. Looks like a Buffy-ish type story. Of importance to GIMPers, superhot Destiny Dumon is in for a brutal AOH torture scene-how long is the question. I'd be surprised if any other bondage occurs, but it's possible.

It looks like their new hottie Cali G plays a prominent role as a victim too. Also Empress Saruyi is back, unless it's an old tape in a new wrestling video. Hopefully she'll do a Blood Chronicles three.

The situation in Japan is indeed tragic. I was reading today about its effect on the high tech markets (specifically photography). All of Nikons pro bodies and made in Japan lenses are assembled in Sendai. Supposedly the plant only received minimal damage, but with no transportation, employees, or power, and the possibility that it may become uninhabitable due to fallout, the situation is indeed serious. Many other companies who make premium electronics and technical equipment are facing similar circumstances. And Japan gets 30% of its power from nuclear facilities.

The Trappings of Success also deals with a few interesting non-GIMP themes (violent media, celebrity, paranoia), but none of this gets in the way of some really inventive action sequences. And as anyone who has already enjoyed it will surely agree, you definitely save the best for, um... yourself. Very brave writing, and very, very entertaining!

elkcreek: Thanks for your follow-up to my rant about SIMP videos (and SIMP material in general). My comments weren't meant to target GIGA productions in particular, though this company is perhaps the best example of what makes this genre so frustrating. Your Socratic analysis is spot-on, highlighting the good, the bad, and the ugly. What surprises me is how much of the good I can enjoy in the face of some seriously annoying SIMP absurdities.

Just a few days ago, I bought the latest in GIGA's series of public execution videos and was treated to an amazing electrocution scene which rivals the one in the original. Although the heroine sports an American-style superheroine outfit, she has no obvious powers, never dons a mask and the tone is suitably grim throughout. I was not disappointed.

What impressed me most of all was that I bought the video from GIGA's download site (in Tokyo) on March 12, the day after the recent earthquake and tsunami devastated Japan. This incredible catastrophe apparently has done little to slow down the company, and they continue to release new titles on an almost daily basis. I'm not sure what to make of that, but it does demonstrate an admirable ability to get on with life in the face of astounding adversity. I too wish the Japanese well as they recover from this tragedy.

MadMax wrote:

In my fantasies, the damsel is always rescued or escapes, and is never bloodied... so for me, any scene that involves this goes too far.

Your comment reminds me of the wondrous diversity of GIMP culture. My fantasy is the complete opposite: no escape and lots of blood (well maybe not lots and lots, but at least some, or a little bit). So that means I'm bad Kirk to your good Kirk. On the bright side, I'm more than happy to accept your hand-me-downs after they escape, then wear them out until they can't be recycled anymore.

Jon Smithie wrote:

Finally, I just want to give another shout out to the folks at Red Feline for the work they do, and Ralphus for bringing people from every corner of the virtual world to learn and share with each other in a spirit of peace and harmony.

Is this where we all hold hands around the campfire and sing Kumbaya? Wow. I don't think I'd ever have expected a Hallmark moment on The GIMP, but there you have it. I've already nominated Ralphus for the next Nobel Peace Prize.

Seriously Jon, welcome to the forum. Sadly, it seems you are another member with an aversion to blood, but hey, I'm sure we can still be friends.

MAV wrote:

SIMP alert from ringdivas.com. Trailer for their new film Akiren is out. Looks like a Buffy-ish type story. Of importance to GIMPers, superhot Destiny Dumon is in for a brutal AOH torture scene-how long is the question.

I have all but given up on Ring Divas. Nobody seemed to have a word to say about their Western epic, Jenah Hex, but I bought it on the strength of the previews and the three gorgeous actresses (including Destiny in the title role). It even features a topless victim tied AOH to a post and beaten. The video is ambitious for a fetish film and is technically well done. It has passable acting, for the most part... except (wait for it) that monumentally annoying jerk from all past RD GIMP vids is parachuted in to handle all the whipping and beating! The producers had two other actors to choose from, one a credible Lee Van Cleef type, but once again they used this pudgy Snidely Whiplash - Marcel Marceau mashup. This guy sweats pork fat and is about as threatening as Yogi Bear on a bender. Of course, he totally wrecks every GIMP scene in the film, which would have been at least a B+ production without him. If this moron shows up anywhere in Akiren, I'm not going near it.

First, as far as the AOH torture scene, it looks like the villain who will torment Destiny is Sam Sexton, a pretty hot chick who I paid to have tortured ;) I wont be missing that annoying torturer dude from their past action films. For those who like a little blood, bellypunching, and taser/electro action (and AOH!), it should be solid since Destiny is a pretty good actress, this being her 5th time on the "torture rack of death".

On the minuses side, it does NOT look like newcomer Cali Danger will be strung up to the torture rack, but she will get beat up for those (not me) who this is enough for. Also Elkcreek, Sayuri (AKA Meng Lau) is long gone from Ring Divas so that's an old wrestling video you saw.

Executioners Dreams is essentially best of both worlds when it comes what tends to divide echair fetishists. You get two executions, one nude, one in a prison outfit and both barefoot. There are some hardcore sex elements, pre and post modern but they're set up to be separate from one another so that you can focus on your specific taste, rather than whether fodder for someone else's fantasies while you wait to get to your own. The model playing the condemned, Monika Jaymes, is African American which is a bit of a rarity in the genre, I'm sorry to say. Seeing her fry twice is a treat.

Ms. Jaymes is very pretty and plays the doe eyed, dejected condemned role very well. The frying is frenetic, if not a bit uncoordinated, the sparks and electricity noises are a nice, kitschy touch. Both electrocutions are markedly different with markedly different feels. The addition of a hood is, in my opinion a very nice touch which I feel some people will not like. Never fear, there is an entirely different electrocution featuring the same prisoner. All in all, it's a bare meat and bones death by electrocution scene that should be in any echair fiend (like myself's) kinky arsenal.

This movie was reviewed here by one of our own and engendered quite a bit of discussion back in July 2009 (check Search the GIMP).

I’m not familiar with Chiller, but I can’t believe they would show this movie unedited. It includes, among other things, physical abuse and repeated rape of the title character, who is naked throughout the film. But how to you edit a flick like this for TV without turning it into crap?

I won’t be able to watch it, but maybe somebody out there will, and report back to us on what was presented, and how.

By the way, Candace Accola, who does the blonde cheerleader role in CW’s Vampire Diaries, plays the unattainable and cute brunette in Deadgirl .

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Ralphus: Late with this comment, but the quality of those pics of Brigitte Skay from Ms. Stiletto were so fine-looking, it’s hard to believe they were capped from VHS. Is that movie available on DVD? That’s one of my most favorite whipping scenes of all time. It’s a good example of what someone mentioned earlier – a completely unexpected whipping scene in a mainstream movie.

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Sorry I can’t respond to a lot of what’s been going on here, but I’m in a bit of rush tonight. But I have to say...

Margot: Those are terrific Red Feline pics you posted. And Jane looks splendid in her hand-made costume. And in the mud, as well.

Rick Masters: There you are! Good to finally see you back after low so many months. The announcement that you'll be shooting again in the not too distant future struck me by surprise. I knew about the animation project, but you're talking actual live action features again? That is indeed good news!

So no more Lisa, no more Amber Bliss, does this mean we'll be seeing a new face or 2 next time around? One of the biggest keys to your success over the years has been your ability to find wholesome, attractive victims, with either minimal or no tattoos and with girl-next-door features. You know what to do with them, of course, but it all comes down to casting, casting, casting. Please keep us updated when there's new developments.

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Jazzbastard79: Thanks for the info on the new MaX CoXXX movie. If you can get me a letter grade, I can post what you wrote in the Reviews section. Pretty unusual to cast a black victim...jhlipton must be frothing at the mouth.

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YikYakker wrote:

...the quality of those pics of Brigitte Skay from Ms. Stiletto were so fine-looking, it’s hard to believe they were capped from VHS. Is that movie available on DVD?

I don't think so, but yeah, the quality is awfully sharp, isn't it? Those weren't my caps; I got those before I even learned how to make caps, and I don't know the source. It's a favorite scene of mine, too.

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John Galt wrote:

Just a quick post to say that I got an e-mail from Delila Darling today confirming that she will be doing another Hardcore Abductions shoot, but unlike The Stalker, she asked me for suggestions to make the next shoot better.

I knew about the second Hardcore Abductions shoot; it's good that Delila is taking an interest in wanting to improve, especially over her last outing with The Stalker. The Stalker told me he feels we weren't fair when we gave low marks to his last movie, well, me anyway, since I only agreed with the negative aspects of your review and didn't say anything positive. In his defense, he's done some fine work over the years; when I get some time, I'll review one of his best titles for the board.

She also said "Don't worry, I'll be doing way more bondage now. :)" That prompted me to ask if that means she has rethought her retirement, but she only answers every other e-mail I send her, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Could be great news, though.

It sure sounds like she's un-retired to me; that tells me she's back. Hey, I know exactly who she should work with, too. Rick Masters! Hey Rick, seriously, give this girl a call when you're ready to film again; she's definitely your type of actress, physically at least. I could easily picture her working for ZFX.

"But how to you edit a flick like this for TV without turning it into crap?"

Answer: You don't. You really, really, don't.

I've never seen the proper version of Deadgirl, but what I saw on Chiller was badly editted, with little blur patches strategically placed over anything remotely interesting.

Whoever at Chiller thought THIS was a good idea, needs to get fired, fast...

Judging by the trailers, all three execution videos (URL above) are hot! Nice beatings! I love a baseball bat to the guts.

My fantasy is the complete opposite: no escape and lots of blood (well maybe not lots and lots, but at least some, or a little bit).

I like little to no blood, but the girl MUST die. No happy endings in this corner of the GIMP world.

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John Galt: I broke that code years ago, to the point where I could judge whether or not I might like a movie based on what certain "reviewers" said about it.

That's the way to go. There was a reviewer for TV Guide many years ago -- I read her reviews and decided whether to accept or reject it based on genres. There were movies that she really liked, and so did I, and others where we were diametrically opposed. It's good to find a consistent reviewer, find where you match and where you don't and view accordingly.

Ebert was always more approving of genre movies than Siskel was, as long as they had some redeeming feature.

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Jazzbastard79: The model playing the condemned, Monika Jaymes, is African American which is a bit of a rarity in the genre, I'm sorry to say.

She's a hottie, isn't she? (Members of this board know I have a preference for darker-skinned victims -- see Ralphus' comment.) I'm planning on getting her torture video as soon as I resolve a problem with NicheClips.

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Margot: I'll stick to short ones for now.

I think you may have made Ralphus' day! (Yes, I have a smutty mind. I thought we all knew that.)

I would also like to offer my prayers to any GIMPers in Japan (is DHT still there?) Looks like a horrible situation is getting worse.

If there are any BoundnSexy.com fans here, I got word from Tony that he is closing that site down and already has the replacement site up and running, with 2 new videos on it. It's called www.madludwig.com.

Thank you Jazzbastard79. It's a honor to be reviewed on the GIMP!!!

Jane

Even your wood is period.... That's so sweet!!! Think I'll order a copy of the Fantom on pay day.

Good Hunting

MaX CoXXX

tough93013

And I wonder if Scribbler has some kind of new animation in store for the sacred event?

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Today's Pic: Oh, to be a saw blade for just a few minutes!

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Margot: Those Red Feline pics are nice, thanks for sharing them.

http://www.madludwig.com/catalog/index.php

Just because its been on my mind, and I hope I do not overstep my bounds here...

I think it bears mention, however that there seems to be a very large crowd of internet types that bitch openly about how films fall short of their personal expectations. Its fair to point out the things you'd like to see - just like I have a few moments ago but to get wrapped up in all the details that lack from your personal fantasy list eventually falls to a form of grieving masked as reviewing. I'm happy to say that so far I haven't read a single word about this flick that reaches that point but it needs to be pointed out that, in general, no one is going to do it as well as you do. What I mean by that is that whatever your fantasy, your imagination is more powerful than any depiction or telling of the tale. Everyone has the right to say what they want to say, no question there. I simply encourage people to take these and many like it for what they are: fetishy fun! If it's not your bag or it doesn't completely fit your bill, enjoy what you can or get a custom made. Hope I'm not taking away from the real purpose here. I also, yes. I'm aware that I overuse commas. Its my cross to bear.

jhlipton: I was overjoyed to see it. Not knocking it too much but there is a proliferation of big booby blonde stripper types that inundate the porn world in general, let alone the more underground fetish works. I'm very interested to see what she does in the future! And maybe some dykey Asian girls could get the chair sometime soon;)

Max: A pleasure sir. Cheers to much more fun in the future!

Still, when I was growing up, it was the best format available to me. I devoted thousands of hours over my lifetime putting these tapes together, acquiring the best copies I could, painstakingly editing them to only include the best parts, making sure that each 2-hour tape was the best I could make it. I made 108 compilation tapes and so far, 6 compilation DVDs. And yet today, about the only thing I ever watch are the 6 DVDs. It's really kind of sad.

As far as upgrading the original tapes to the new format, I could do that, but I just don't seem to have either the time nor the inclination. Some of the stuff I collected back in the day still holds up, and some of it doesn't. What's also sad is that some of the best scenes in my collection are no longer available today, unless you're able to track down an old VHS tape online.

For movie collectors, it used to be 8MM films...I'm not that old, but I still remember when the only way to get HOM stuff was if you owned a projector. Then along came VHS and Beta, which more than anything allowed people to start their own movie collections. I'm from that generation. VHS was replaced by DVD, and now Blu-ray seems to be the format of choice, that and online streaming. The problem is, along the way, a lot of movie treasures are getting left behind and never getting converted to the new format. Thank God that years ago, Rick Masters with ZFX converted his entire 150+ movie inventory and made new digital DVD versions for the new generation. It took him years to go through them, but it was worth it since his stuff is so good and deserves to be preserved.

But how about those Golden Age roughies from the 1970s and early 1980s, back when bondage and rape were allowed in adult pornos and you could rent them in nearly any video store? Well, good luck tracking any of those movies down today. If it's been converted to DVD, those good scenes are likely edited out, or if you can find it intact, it's a blurry 4th or 5th generation bootleg.

And I'm thinking more about mainstream films with nasty torture and rape scenes. Anybody ever see Warrior Queen, with blonde cutie Tally Chanel hung up by her wrists naked and auctioned off to the highest bidder? She later gets raped in the film. There are other scenes of slavegirls tortured and used sexually in the film. It's from 1987, not that long ago. But you can't find it on DVD. And you probably never will.

How about Fatal Pulse, with arguably one of the best mainstream electric shock scenes of all time? That was also from the late 1980s. Never been put on DVD. Another GIMP classic that got bypassed into the next generation. There are so many more, but this post is already really long.

Here's a poll question for our readers who are collectors:

GIMP POLL:
Do you still have movies on VHS tapes? Have you tried to convert them, or acquire new digital copies? Are there any particular titles you'd like to see again, but can't find now? Or do you feel that the older stuff is too old to bother with, and you'd rather just find newer, more current material?

Step up and take a shot at answering this one. We really want to know what you think. The only wrong answer...is not to answer at all.

Demonoid: Messenger of Death is a rather goofy horror film, but the first 3 minutes are delightful. A woman clad in a medieval robe is chased through an underground chamber by a group of hooded men. After a terrific fight they chain her to a wall, and as her succulent, naked breasts escape from her torn-open garment, they chop her left (evil) hand off. Someone uploaded it to YouTube a while back, and we had fun with it here until it was taken down. Except for the original VHS, no other version has this opening scene.

We’ve recently seen pics from Ms. Stiletto (aka Isabella, Duchess of Devils), which not only has a dandy whipping scene, but plenty of nudity throughout, including star Brigitte Skay in a topless swordfight. Rare mix of action, sex and GIMPage. Lots of fun. Only available on VHS.

Women in Cell Block 9 - some DVD releases are heavily edited – only the VHS can be counted on to provide Jess Franco’s sleazy vision in its entirety.

A few years ago, in response to a GIMP poll, someone here mentioned Blood Symbol as either among their favorite movies or GIMP scenes. I’ve been curious about it since. Only available on VHS.

There are many, many movies for which it is necessary to get the VHS version to get a particular scene, or to get an unedited version of the movie. Some of these make it into compilations, but the offending (i.e. good) scenes have been excised. If only someone would restore these to their original states on DVD, I would pull out my credit card.

Alternatively, if today’s producers could somehow capture the spirit as well as the substance of these kinds of movies in their own works, I would claw my way ahead of all other GIMPers to buy them.

I started making compilation tapes right around 1985 or so, and as I look through the titles on these tapes, there's some damn good stuff that I just never look at anymore, and haven't seen for years, simply because of the fact that they're on VHS tapes.

I am in exactly the same situation. In fact, it was 1985 when I started making my compilation tapes, too. Back then, VHS recorders were still quite pricey, so getting a second one for the sole purpose of copying GIMP scenes was a bit profligate. I even remember taking the equipment on the road, travelling to other cities to track down rare and hard-to-find material. Here in Canada, Quebec rental stores imported European titles, so for the first time I saw uncut versions of films by Franco, Rollin, d'Amato and others. Whenever I found anything good, I would add it to my compilation collection.

Over the fifteen years I did this, I managed to fill about 25 2-hour VHS tapes. That's far less than Ralphus, so I have to wonder what I missed. Or perhaps I was just being choosier. I didn't go to any great lengths to preplan what I recorded, I just added each new find in sequence until the tape was full.

Like Ralphus, I can't be bothered wrestling with the cumbersome tape technology anymore. Also, it's remarkable how much of the material I have on those tapes has resurfaced on DVD and online. There probably are some favorite tape scenes which remain unattainable in digital format, but I can't think of any off-hand. I have that electro scene from Fatal Pulse on my hard drive, and I'm pretty sure I've seen clips from Warrior Queen online as well. There's no need for me to convert my tape collection to digital because so many other people are doing this. Without even trying hard, I've stumbled across so much of what I'd archived years ago. If I were a Torrent user, I'd probably find even more.

So I'm less inclined to think that all that much will be lost as we move to newer formats. In fact, with each advance in the technology, it seems more of the old stuff tends to emerge. Something Weird has transferred most of their legacy titles to DVD and has many recent discoveries available only on digital media. Other companies, like Alpha Blue Archives are also restoring a lot of very obscure material from that Golden Age. Anything that still exists on film or VHS will likely be digitized eventually.

What's more worrisome is that some films likely disappeared before even the videotape boom came along to save them. Then again, I'm frequently amazed at how seemingly "lost" movies from the Sixties and Seventies resurface on DVD. The Bushwacker, which was MIA for almost four decades popped up in two different versions on DVD just a few years ago. The only significant GIMP moments which I have not come across since watching them in a theatre are the whipping and corncob scenes in A Guy and 8 Girls. That film, I fear, really is lost forever.

So, to answer the poll: Yes, I still have a fair amount of material on VHS, but I have no inclination to convert it. I will acquire new digital copies, and am willing to pay good money for films which have good scenes, especially if they have been restored. In many cases, what's available now is of far better quality than what I had on those compilation tapes. I may come up with something later, but without watching my compilations, I can't think of much I am missing from the VHS days.

For the most part, I find the best mainstream GIMP films were made between 1965 and 1985, so I'm always happy to see old favorites restored to digital. But is there really all that much left to restore? I guess I'll find out when I see how others respond to this question. Aside from ZFX videos and Blakemore's Super 8 loops (a lot of which have been converted), there's not much fetish material from the pre-digital era I'd miss. So on the whole, what's currently coming out in that domain is sufficient. Like most of us though, the plethora of GIMP-specific clips online (relative to what was available in the days of VHS) has made me much more demanding, so I'm actually more frustrated today than I was twenty years ago. Go figure.

YikYakker wrote:

Women in Cell Block 9 - some DVD releases are heavily edited - only the VHS can be counted on to provide Jess Franco's sleazy vision in its entirety.

My DVD, released by VIP, is complete and has excellent picture quality to boot.

On a subconscious level, I may have been affected by the fact that you were portrayed in the picture attachment by Emi Kitagawa, who is quite pretty but has really fake-looking implants. That kind of thing can throw me off.

In relation to this months poll, I do have quite a few VHS mainstream movies with bondage scenes. But sadly, no bondage VHS tapes. I can't see them cuz I don't have a VHS player anymore. I'm not very electronically intelligent, so I could never figure out how to hook up a VHS player and my Blu-Ray player at the same time.

I do miss having a VHS player because I have some great movies. For example: UNDER INVESTIGATION. Joanna Pacula is in it, and she is the girlfriend of a detective on the trail of a serial killer who suffocates women with duct tape :-) There is a scene with Joanna, and a scene in the beginning with this hot Indian looking woman. Joanna is rescued in the nick of time...but the Indian woman suffocates.

Then there's DIE WATCHING. It basically has the same premise. A serial killer who suffocates his victims with duct tape or plastic bags. Two scenes of interest in that one: A hot blonde towards the beginning, and a brunette who gets bagged towards the middle. The blonde gets suffocated with duct tape though.

I've also wanted GHOULIES 3 on DVD for a long time, but it doesn't come in that format. It's basically all comedic. There's this hot blonde, with a luscious ass...gets suffocated in the shower, with..of all things...A PLUNGER! :-) And there is a bondage scene with a pretty brunette tied down to a table, cleave gagged, and tickled with a rubber stamp. Its kinda hard to say what they are trying to actually do to her They mention the word TORTURE, but what they are doing isn't actually torture.

I just thought of another goodie I`d love to have on DVD: EVIL TOWN. Lots of good bondage in that one. In one scene...two chicks are bound and cleave gagged in the back of a van. The one girl...uses her bare toes to untie the other girls wrist bindings! For those of us who are foot freaks, that scene is a real gem! :-)

In conclusion...it's a shame that more of these older movies cant be found in DVD format. Since there are SOOOO many out there, with fantastic scenes.

I have perhaps a dozen or so compilation VHS tapes that I have intended to attempt to convert (emphasis on "attempt") to DVD as I have a DVD/VHS Copy machine but haven't quite figured out the conversion process as yet. Amazingly, I even have a handful of old BETA tapes somewhere that are even one further step removed from being watchable.

I DO miss the days when I could go to the video store, find a hidden gem, and patch the best scenes on to the end of whatever VHS tape I was working on.

I may still pull them out and take a trip down memory lane some day soon. But given the awesome amount of new and converted product available since the advent of the Internet, I expect that my tapes may -- by and large -- be best left as memories of fun days gone by.

A few years ago, in response to a GIMP poll, someone here mentioned Blood Symbol as either among their favorite movies or GIMP scenes. I’ve been curious about it since. Only available on VHS.

Actually, that was me. I've said before it was one of the more unknown GIMP scenes that really delivers on all levels, and it's a scene that most people are not familiar with.

Blood Symbol was an obscure straight-to-video movie that could have easily been lost in the hundreds or so slasher films from the 1980s and 90s. There wasn't anything noteworthy about the video box. And when I rented it, I wasn't expecting anything. But there's a really good scene where a kidnapped girl is hung upside down and eventually has her throat slit. It is basically a precursor to the much more famous Mrs. Bathory scene in Hostel: Part 2 with Heather Matarazzo, except it pre-dates that film by a good 15 years. Don't tell me that Eli Roth didn't see that scene before he made his film...it even has the exact same shot of a candle being snuffed out by a drop of blood from the victim!

I've uploaded it to YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmefDrqdNII

Hopefully it's not too bloody for YouTube. I've definitely seen worse there.

Thought I'd weigh in on the poll question even though I'm not now nor have I ever been a VHS collector. I'm certainly old enough. Back in the day you could catch me trolling the shelves of movie stores or remainder bins looking for horror or WIP or Nazploitation VHS tapes that might suggest a scene or two of naked GIMPage. For the most part I was disappointed with the offerings as my standards are very high.

I do recall one movie that I wish I had, and that is a gem called "Scream of the Demon Lover," based of course on the Shakespearean tragedy of the same name. There were a couple of rack scenes in it, involving an attractive and semi-naked young lady. In the second rack scene she is completely nude, but a strategically placed decorative accent in the dungeon obscures her really naughty bit. I've never seen any vidcaps of that scene. Maybe Ralphus has it in his reworking of the Rack Scene Database. One can only hope.

There was another movie called, I forget; "Don't Go In the House", or "Don't Go Near the House", or "Don't Answer the Phone In the House", or something like that. Anyway a young woman awakens after being knocked out to find herself in a metal sheeted room. She's stark naked and chained AOH. I have seen vidcaps of this scene. Quite a good scene IMHO, except I wasn't turned on by the method of her demise. I have never seen "Ms Stiletto" or whatever other aka it goes by, but judging from the excellent vidcaps, I think that would have aroused my interest. I guess other scenes of the VHS days are forgettable, cause I sure have forgot 'em.

Are GIMP scenes today better or worse? Well, I think of the scene in "The Girl Next Door" where the girl is naked and left bound AOH in the basement. That movie makes me queasy since it involves children. I prefer my exploitation movies not to have any sociological message. And there's the scene in "Saw III" where the woman is chained naked in the freezer. I would have liked the movie more in general and that scene in particular if the guy hadn't been such a dick. I mean here's this naked GIMP and the asshole dithers about whether or not he should save her? She's naked, dude! You're locked in a freezer! I don't know about you but when I see a naked woman I think "shared bodily warmth."

I'm looking forward to the release of Red Feline's "Maleficarum." If that is anywhere near as good as the stills and comments from Jane and Margot suggest, then yes, this is the best of GIMP times.

Jon

Anyone remember the video box for Midnight? There was a painting of a screaming naked woman straddling the the pin that two clock hands rotated on, but the clock hands were scissor blades, which were closing together (it being almost midnight, apparently) and her head was stuck between them? I always liked it.

DHT - yes, that "Midnight" cover - I still have the original VHS I purchased on that years ago but the cover deteriorated and was disposed of - a fair movie made better by the Savini effects.

Kevin - that scene in "Evil Town" was kinda cute but damn, they got away - I had visions of those two and the other big breasted blond captive strapped to a gurney for some fiendish medical procedure as they struggle - pity.

Poll question - as I sit on a vast array of VHS will certainly upgrade if, indeed, it is an upgrade to digital - if not, why bother - and if there's a good scene available only on VHS I'll still make a purchase there - old school I guess.

Stay well all

2001 Maniacs: Field of Screams. Yes, this movie is a complete stinker, a sequel to a REMAKE (you KNOW that's going to suck) BUT it is redeemed by one of the best Buzzsaw scenes in a mainstream movie I've ever seen. At about the 30 Min mark a lovely blond damsel is bound to a table wearing rather cute bra and panties. The buzz saw is moved into place between her legs and slowly moves upwards. The towny maniacs to their required laughing and taunting whilst our pretty damsel screams her head off.

Now what makes this scene amazing is the camera does NOT cut away at the moment of impact... they must have spent their whole budget on this scene, because the panties are RIPPED away, there is a brief full crotch view and gore ensues. NOT for the squeamish. It's one of those, "Did I just see that?" moments. Worth checking out for that scene alone.

Speaking of complete stinkers, I also just happened upon another slasher flick called "Butchered", and believe me, it sucks hard. BUT, it is redeemed by the opening scene in which a lovely damsel is captured and tortured by the recently escaped maniac. The scene is intercut with an "America's Most Wanted" segment setting up the killer's background (who cares?). Our damsel in this scene is tied AOH with a chain, her bound feet dangling inches off the ground. She topless, and is shown being cut with various sharp implements. The scenes are quick "cuts" (pun intended) as the filmmaker attempts (and fails badly) at an artsy type scene.

The scene climaxes as the killer severs the damsel's left nipple (partially shown) and then finally kills her with a quick stab of the hunting knife. (yawn) Not a bad scene really as the "actress" is rather attractive and well endowed. After this, you can just stop the movie as the rest is complete tripe (and that's an insult to tripe).

Well, that's all I have for now, I'll pipe in again when I have something worthwhile to report. Ralphus, my old friend, Happy twelfth! Lets have a beer sometime. Ha!

I do recall one movie that I wish I had, and that is a gem called "Scream of the Demon Lover," based of course on the Shakespearean tragedy of the same name. There were a couple of rack scenes in it, involving an attractive and semi-naked young lady. In the second rack scene she is completely nude, but a strategically placed decorative accent in the dungeon obscures her really naughty bit. I've never seen any vidcaps of that scene. Maybe Ralphus has it in his reworking of the Rack Scene Database. One can only hope.

Dear John Smithie,

Meinaru grants your wish:

Regards.

You’ll need to be careful with this one, because at least one version has one of the rack scenes cut and the other edited. (Trust me, I learned this the hard way). It also appears under the name Blood Castle, which may be the uncut version but I’m not sure.

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Fritz wrote: There probably are some favorite tape scenes which remain unattainable in digital format, but I can't think of any off-hand.

Here are some that I’m looking for: Caged Heat 2, Jungle Warriors (mass rape scene shortened in transfer to DVD), Mandinga, Stryker (GIMP scene edited out in DVD version), Savage Justice (pivotal rape scene excised from DVD version), The Girl in Room 2a.

If anyone knows where I can find these in digital format, I would be extremely grateful for the info.

Fritz also wrote: Without even trying hard, I've stumbled across so much of what I'd archived years ago. If I were a Torrent user, I'd probably find even more.

...and wrote: My DVD [of Women in Cell Block 9:], released by VIP, is complete and has excellent picture quality to boot.

I’m glad to hear that, because at the time I wrote my review, I was not sure how much the VIP retained from the original.

Folks who are interested in this movie would do well to get the VIP edition, not the JEF version.

Ladyfist - anyone a fan of their videos? It's mainly one-sided fights which do have some gimp appeal in my opinion. Anyway, they've basically lost me as a customer because they keep using girls with half their bodies covered in tattoos. I've gotta think their sales are way down because of that.

Nick

WWW.MADLUDWIG.COM

Multiple differently worded Google searches on that title, and an IMDB search both proved fruitless immediately. Kind of gives me an idea of what you meant when you said "gone forever" hard to think about searching for a clip when according to the internet the movie doesn't exist. Was there an alternate title? release date? production company? Your image being from dropbox.com doesn't help much either :(.

I consider myself pretty good at searching for stuff like this (of course if it's not there it's not there), but don't even know where to start with that movie? Any further help?

The lack of compatibility in the digital medium is criminal. I called both companies, the maker of my new machine, and the old one. I got nothing but the runaround. It STILL pisses me off. If anyone knows how to extract non finalized DVD R files please let me know.

POLL QUESTION ANSWER: I have hundreds of old bondage and ravishment VHS cassettes including many private, personal ones made with ladies I have role-played with.

The past couple of years I've been converting VHS to DVD. This became very time consuming. So though I'm still in the process I am now just converting the movies I like best to DVD. As I'm sure many of you have experienced, over the decades I purchased movies that looked great on the box cover but didn't live up to my expectations when viewed. In the old days not many examples or previews of content was available.

What is kind of sad is years past as my VHS collection was growing I felt this was an investment that would be worth something someday. I have all the House of Milan Bondage Classics series, most older CloseUp Concepts movies including the KISS series, older Japanese movies (when they made good ones), and movies from producers long gone, etc etc etc. Tons of money invested into something basically worthless today. But I still enjoyed the movies at the time so I really can't complain can I? Someday I'll finish converting all the good ones to DVD; of course by then DVD may be an ancient format itself?

Enjoy life, Mike aka MWB

PS: One movie I've never found to buy is the Japanese movie with the code: SBNS-028. If anyone knows where I can obtain a copy please contact me. Thanks.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://mobile.side-b.tv/info/nagae/info/200706/sbns-028.htm&ei=8ryITfKoJ5S00QHxycXtDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCIQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSBNS-028%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Divns

I must have been the last one to order, because I not only picked up four tapes, but some of the clips that were transferred to CDs. The keeper of the WSIMD, Oslo – bless the dude – often had to work with primitive technology and poor source materials. Also, he wasn’t always sure about the names of the movies, and he recorded a bunch of Japanese whipping scenes called Unknown 1, Unknown 2, etc. It would be great to have cleaner versions of those clips and movie titles to go with them.

I am also finding many higher-quality clips on the Internet of scenes that I kept on VHS. But one of my favorite movies that hasn't been put on DVD is Bits and Pieces. The review says the director planned to release an uncut version on DVD. Still waiting.

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Ralphus: Thanks for the clip of Blood Symbol. That was damn hot, and, yes, Eli Roth must've seen it, too.

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Kevin: Die Watching had some excellent GIMP moments, but I was infuriated when the psycho really loses it and instead of torturing that second gorgeous blond stripper, he yells at her to get away from him. What a waste!

As for Evil Town, I really enjoyed the abduction scene of the big-boobed camper and the implied rape of her.

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Sardu: I saw 2001 Maniacs: Field of Screams and agree the buzzsaw scene was well made. As I recall, I mostly hit the fast-forward button as the other tortures seemed to mainly involve male victims (what a surprise!) and the movie itself was just so terrible.

Fritz I'm hoping you have a little more information on the movie you mentioned called "A Guy and 8 Girls" That image of the whipping scene was excellent!

I have a little more information, but not much. I have only seen this film twice - once in 1976 and once in 1977 - both times in a Toronto grindhouse theatre called the Biltmore. It was the first time I remember seeing a topless woman being whipped, so this film did manage to burn itself into my brain. A few years later, I discovered the A Guy and 8 Girls featured in one of those sexploitation magazines which flourished in the early 1970's. I picked up a copy at a second-hand book store and was surprised to find an article which included two full-page images from the AGA8G whipping scene. Here is the other one. I no longer have the magazine (which I recall had a few other stills) but I did save the two color pictures. The Dropbox images are my own scans, so don't think their location makes them suspect.

Here's what I recall about the film (and please, understand I have not seen it in over three decades). It was a poverty row porn production, likely filmed between 1968 and 1972. It begins with four girls (including the whipped brunette) going on a boat cruise. They go skinny dipping and sunbathe topless before running aground on an uncharted desert isle (cue Gilligan's Island theme). On the island are four naked Amazon babes who capture and torture the naive girls on the boat. The whipped brunette gets the worst of it. Not only is she flogged for about ten minutes, she is rather explicitly raped with a corn cob after she is cut down.

The Amazons have also captured a man (so now you can appreciate the inspired title) who teams up with the oppressed boat girls to overthrow their captors. At least that's how I remember it. Sadly, I doubt I will ever see this movie again. Something Weird has never heard of it. It is not referenced on IMDB, and even a Google search comes up empty. It could be the most obscure GIMP film of all time. And for the cynics among you, I swear I am not making this up. This film DID exist. If anyone following this board can confirm they know of it, I would be most grateful if they would back me up.

It took me years to find anyone else who'd heard of Secret Squirrel, so I'll wait patiently for someone to verify that A Guy and 8 Girls existed.

The thing with buzzsaw scenes is that it's practically a cliche that the damsel will get rescued at the last minute; it's very rare that you see otherwise. The only time I ever saw where they actually did it was in a Troma cheapie called Igor and the Lunatics where she actually gets the saw blade right through her pussy, which was very cool, I thought. I know, I'm a pervert, but I like to see the cliche get turned around and the villain actually win one this time.

Here's a few old vidcaps. Scribbler, please avert your eyes. I'll see if I can find some butterflies and flowers for you instead :)

It's the same cliche with tying the damsel to the railroad tracks. You just KNOW that damned hero will appear in the nick of time and ruin all our fun. I like to put myself in the place of the villain and not the hero. I mean, what's the point of tying her up and putting her in a deathtrap if all your work is going to be spoiled anyway? I always rooted for the coyote to catch the roadrunner, too. It's frustrating, man! And I've NEVER seen a railroad track scene where the girl actually gets run over by the train. How come somebody won't film that? Maybe I should cough up some more money and get Jane involved :)

You also wrote:

Ralphus, my old friend, Happy twelfth! Lets have a beer sometime. Ha!

Well, it's not our 12th anniversary until March 29. But I appreciate the gesture, my former master. Cheers!

It's fun to be mocked. :) Anyway, that shit is not my thing, but I'm probably the only lightweight gimper here, so no big deal. I'll come back in a month, and hopefully that image will roll off the bottom by then. ;)

One thing I remember that you did not mention was some sort of a wooden cage where the Amazons had the man and one or two women. The ending took place on the boat as the girls 'woke up' and it was all a dream.

Friedrich, Baron von Folter

The correct title is "A Man, Eight Girls", here's the IMDB link:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219906/

Let's hope it isn't lost...

Brutus - guess you know I too have been seeking a quality dvd "Bits & Pieces" as well with the the same lack of success - will certainly let you know if I score first.

"Girl in Room 2a" was mentioned the other day - it does seem strange no dvd release on that one as almost every other giallo ever made seems to have found its way onto disc - and Giordano makes some pleasant eye candy in that one.

In the unending quest for sleaze I'm off for a view of "Love Camp 7" - me at my most masochistic.

Stay well all

I have tried to convert my old VHS collection but unfortunately, most of the custom tapes I have received over the past 10+ years have deteriorated, some to the point of the backing separating from the tape itself.

Some of these were one of a kind copies of "custom" vids I had lent uniforms for, and never had been seen in public. They were stored following guidelines for proper video tape storage, but I suspect most of them were recorded on "cheap" tape.

Enjoy life, Mike aka MWB

The Spanking Machine and other sites had an agreement with Oslo to obtain Oslo's collection. Schober has collected many more scenes from movies and television from all over the world. His site is www.punishmovies.com. I am not promoting this site but direct you to it because of the comprehensiveness of the scenes. One can go to the site and review all of the stills and then selectively download them. To download all of the scenes costs about €150 or roughly $210. It is quite laborious to download all of the clips. And what's more they are all in .ram and can be viewed only on your PC. They could then be converted to .avi (DIVX) and burned onto a DVD and watched on a big screen TV. However the time and cost would be prohibitive.

The other alternative is to buy the DVDs. The cost for all of the clips of which there are about 1200 would be 750 euros or roughly $1050. Obviously if one is more selective costs could be much less than that. When one puts into perspective all the time and money one has spent pursuing these movies and scenes it may be more efficient to obtain whatever one desires selectively. I think it's worth going to the site and looking at the stills of the clips and making one's own decisions.

The daemon in me is so possessive that I used to buy 16mm prints and record the scenes off of a flat white wall by video camera. I had to obtain a special 16mm projector with a certain fan speed so that there was no flicker in the video recording. Early on I obtained 35mm prints of The Mongols and The Black Pirates and had the reels with the scenes in them recorded onto three-quarter inch videotape. One of my friends recorded scenes with his video camera from a drive-in movie screen. One of these movies was Women For Sale (Die Jungen Tiger von Hong Kong) a German Exploitation film. One can view the trailer of this movie on YouTube. It is simply called Women for Sale, trailer by KoozebaneBert. The beautiful blonde dancer who get whipped at the end is Veronique Vendel.

Years ago Mike Vrany of Something Weird Video advertised in many of the amateur movie trade periodicals the names of hundreds of movies from the 60s and 70s. He was willing to pay decent money for 35mm prints. I don't know how many of the movies in his catalog were obtained this way. But there are a couple of movies I wish he had been able to obtain: Body Of A Female (where Roberta Findley has a role) and Shannon's Women wherein Kathy Williams the Indian maid in the Ramrodder who get whipped is also in a whipping scene. Shannon's Women was released on VHS by some small company in California that folded. I don't know how many prints there were but probably somewhere in somebody's collection it can be found.

Prompted by this poll I reviewed the VHS's I have on hand and found The Lustful Turk, Massacre Of Pleasure, Prison de Mujers (where in a non-sequitur scene a beautiful naked Mexican girl hangs naked and AOH being flogged by a matron of the prison, a scene I thought of as gratuitous). And I also refound my VHS copy of Ms. Stiletto! Also I have all of Netfetter's compendia and other assorted VHS's.

I like the old and I like the new. I treasure the scenes that Netfetter and Schober have accumulated. But my penchant also includes what I have been able to obtain from the Internet. Over the years I have acquired and still have stored on my computers most of the scenes from Pain Gate, Spanking Server, Whipped Women, Kshara, Red Feline, Mood, Inquisitionlive, pain4fem and sundry other clips hundreds and hundreds in all.

Stay well all

I wish I could get the original "Gangland" since I have the sequels and I'd like a more complete set.

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Hmm, Supergirl is bound with green rope. That rope must be laced with Kryptonite, otherwise she would have no trouble breaking free, with her being a Kryptonian and all.

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About A Guy and 8 Girls:
The correct title is "A Man, Eight Girls", here's the IMDB link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219906/
Let's hope it isn't lost...

Thanks for correcting the title. That explains why I wasn't able to find a single reference to this film all these years. And it even has an IMDB listing with three reviews (albeit only one by someone who has apparently seen it). At least now I know I hadn't just dreamt it up. The next step is to find the actual movie.

By the way, lost or not, A Man, Eight Girls should be added to the Whipping Scenes in Movies database. The flogging in this film may not be all that realistic, but it is among the most erotic I've come across in a mainstream production. It goes on for about ten minutes, and both whipper and whippee are topless throughout.

It turns out that French Quarter, a sentimental favorite of mine, is not only available on DVD - at a high cost - but is also included on an economically priced compilation DVD called After Dark Thrillers. Having checked out ADT, I can verify that the climactic GIMP scene - in which luscious Alisha Fontaine is tied spreadeagle to a sacrificial voodoo stone slab altar and threatened with a snake - has been preserved in its entirety.

I wouldn't call it a classic GIMP scene, but it's an unexpected piece of bondage/peril in what is essentially a romance/fantasy/adventure movie. As a bonus, you get scenes of nudity thrown in (it is, after all, a tale about a bordello in old New Orleans). And among the ladies of the night is former Playmate Laura Misch.

It's the kind of movie that you can watch with a (very open-minded) friend and still get your GIMP on.

I mention it as a sign that occasionally the GIMP gods do smile on us.

Another bonus on the compilation DVD is a movie from the same period, Pick-Up, which has engendered some discussion here in the past.

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I agree with the comments about Jennifer Jason Leigh - cute, appealing and riveting in her performances.

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YikYakker: Hey, that looks like a pretty good deal on that After Dark Thrillers DVD. Thanks for the heads-up.

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Been awhile since I last posted but have been lurking. Just not a lot to say… like many others have expressed, the GIMP world right now seems to be going through another of its periodic periods of repression. All of us old-timers have seen it before, but with the work of the small independent producers including the great work of Red Feline, there remains hope that the ‘Golden Ages’ continue. I believe it has to do with changes in consumer formats over the years (written word to movies to TV to 8MM to home video to internet based) that when the new format reaches a certain point, repression starts.

Other things affect the environment such as demographics, local political/legal culture, and perhaps most importantly… funding; i.e. can you make enough money to take the risk of producing something that approaches or breaks today’s boundaries.

Unfortunately, these days most producers making anything approaching a mainstream horror/action movie with a decent budget, know that the ‘cleaner’ they keep the movie, the more secondary markets (multitude of national and international cable channels), might buy their movie. Lets face it, few of the movies made these days ever make it to a movie theatre and the DVD market is shrinking, so they depend on those other markets to get a return on their investment. How else does one explain the absolute mainstream CRAP that’s being made these days where much isn’t even worth fast-forwarding through to get to any ‘good’ parts because there isn’t anything worthy of adding to a compilation tape.

Which brings me to the poll question. While I’ve never counted them, I probably have well over a hundred compilation VHS tapes (2 HR) in addition to over a hundred ‘bought’ tapes. As for converting them, no I haven’t done it for a variety of reasons but mostly because I never watch them any more. I’ve started to dispose of some of them in the garbage but saving the ones that are particularly good.

Not sure if I’m being a GIMP heretic, but after forty-five odd years of collecting I’ve started to ask myself “How much GIMP is enough?” particularly these days when the disappointments so outweigh the surprises.

I did enjoy making the compilation tapes though, it allowed you to remake the movie by editing out all the scenes you didn’t want, in many cases, making it a better movie. I don’t know if others do it because I don’t recall the subject ever being discussed, but I would do a couple of things with my tapes that made them better. At the beginning of each new segment I’d tape a ‘still shot’ with the name of the movie and the actress/actresses involved because I soon realized many were too obscure to remember. The other trick I’d use with great success was to tape some of the best too-short scenes in slow motion where that fantastic five or ten second scene was now as long as you wanted. You do obviously lose the sound when doing this, but if you really wanted and had the time, equipment and desire, you can overdub appropriate music or the original screams/words. So, besides adding another ‘Buffy shelf”, these days I’ve been devoting most of my GIMP efforts to the world of words where rather than doing more ‘original’ writing I’m taking my favourite books and stories from years past and rewriting them into what I always wished they could be.

You know the ones where they too often ‘enjoy’ what happens to them… not in my version. The ones where the scenes stop too soon or don’t include something you wanted to have happen next… not in my version. In some I’ve added a story background that wasn’t in the original that suits MY tastes, and in others, the old book now stars a well-know actress or movie/TV character that appeals to ME and is ‘illustrated’ with pictures of the star or screencaps from the movie or TV show.

It’s sort of like making compilation tapes in that you’re able to take one of YOUR favourite movies or TV shows, take out the crap, and then having them remake make it with nothing you want missing from the new version.

With respect to any questions re copyright etc, I do this for my own pleasure and most of it has been source material from the ‘Golden Age’ for writing in the 1970’s and in many cases the original is available free or next to free on-line.

On JJL, she is without doubt a great one… one of favourite finds was a copy of Death Ride to Osaka which had the nudity and rape scene missing from Girls of the White Orchid.

Sorry for such a long post, I won’t leave it as long next time.

Your point about producers and distributors having to tone down their offerings to appeal to a wide range of cultures applies primarily to sex. I know this is an old saw,(i.e. Saw I or II) but if anything the violence in movies is escalating. And that seems perfectly acceptable. Show the hit, not the tit. Seems that violence is the universal language. And hey, I like violent movies, but damn it, I'm an old codger and I'd like to see more nudity with my violence like in the old days. GIMPs now are typically fully clothed, if in more or less revealing tank tops or halters and shorts. I just watched a movie called "High Lane" where the heroine wears a really low cut tank top. She and her friends are hiking in Croatia. She has a breath taking set on her. I begrudged every moment the camera cut away to view the landscape. I'm looking at the only mountain range I want to see right there, Merci boucoups.

Of course she and her friends are set upon by the Croatian equivalent of an inbred toxic-chemical mutated West Virginia Hillbilly. Eventually she's tied AOH in the cellar. Now damn it, I don't care if you are a feral cannibalistic proto-human, you're still going to want to take a peek at those magnificent peaks before you tuck into your bubble and squeak. But alas no. We're just here to perform mindless depredations on passing tourists without regard to sex, race, or national origin. Yawn. Or how about the remake of "Last House on the Left"; here we have horrific sexual violence--without nudity. No matter how they play it, the lack of nudity makes the scene completely bogus and unrealistic and, yes, exploitative. And here again, I love exploitation films (Viva Machete!) But I hate it when an exploitation film preaches or pretends to be something it's not.

Cleansing breath. I would absolutely love to see and read your re-worked classics. Any chance you could post your writings on the forum? I too would love to rewrite some scenes. Like every Buffy scene ever. Except the one where Zander stops Willow from destroying the world. That one makes me cry like a girl-child. Yes, another Hallmark moment. How about rewriting one of my favorite scenes: "Last of the Mohicans" with Madeline Stowe as Cora. Her wrists are bound, she's showing a hint of cleavage and she's surrounded by bloodthirsty savages who want nothing more than to torture her to death. What if Long Rifle (what a great nickname. What guy would not want to be called "Long Rifle." My nickname would probably be "Handgun." But I digress.) What if Long Rifle weighed the odds and decided to make a beeline for Kan-tuck-ee? Let's make Magwa a happy man. He's been hurt.

Thanks to Flaggomania for the info on punishworld. I checked it out briefly and was quickly overwhelmed. OMG I thought I knew a little something about whipping scenes but I'm a piker, a neophyte, an FNG. I shall spend time exploring. I'll tell them Flaggomania sent me.

And finally I too am in the JJL army. I'd love to give her the award that a previous writer suggested. I think we should call the award the "Oslo" in honor of Oslo Netfetter. I think the Oslo should be restricted to females, though I know there are people who would like to see Guys in Merciless Peril--not that there's anything wrong with that.

Jon

Conversely, we do not attempt to justify the violent aspects of GIMP; nor do we, as is indicated on the masthead of the forum, condone actual sexual violence. We just enjoy the fantasy. My thought is that the world would be a much healthier place with a robust fantasy life.

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Ralphus: I am getting bouncebacks from your e-mail address. It started last night and was still bouncing back earlier this afternoon.

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Just watched Nude Nuns With Big Guns, which is a sensationally different nunsploitation flick with a lot of nude nuns and a quite a few rapes along the way. The rapes are violent but oddly not all that GIMP-ish. It also rips the Catholic church a new asshole. For fans of grindhouse flicks, this one captures the spirit very well. Maybe someone else who has seen it can tell me why I thought it failed as a GIMP movie. Maybe because the women were not all that hot? Am I really that shallow? (<- rhetorical question)

I had the same feeling as you did after I saw the movie. Yes, more attractive victims would have helped. I agree that the flick tried - and largely succeeded - in capturing the spirit of the old grindhouse/drive-in flicks, even as it obviously attempted to poke fun at them.

But I thought the film-makers pulled their punches a bit. While some movies of the past would have shown as much as they could for as long as they could (sexploitation), some of the scenes in Nude Nuns were either edited or deliberately teasing. The rape victim in the vehicle...yeah she had an open shirt but you couldn't see anything else of her - the view was from outside the windshield, with the dashboard blocking the view. The nun raped on the bed...it was a low-angle view of her face, with her headdress hiding the rest of her body while she was lying on her stomach. Reminded me of that classic pic of Jennifer Aniston...naked, but not showing.

I hate to bitch about movies like these because, hey, they're doing what we want them to do, and they're entertaining besides. But dammit, they just don't go far enough to satisfy those of those of us who have seen better.

BTW, I forgot to thank you for mentioning Eyes of a Stranger. I had seen that when it first came out but forgot about it. Another one to hunt down.

I bought Dirty Deeds "Abuse of a Captive" -- overall very good, with just a few miscues. I'll write a full review as soon as I can.

On VHS, I haven't had a VCR for about 5 years. I had some guy Travis __? from this board convert my stuff to DVD but in the process of moving around a few years back, those DVDs somehow disappeared. I've been able to recoup most of the mainstream scenes I had, but I lost a lot of Ashley Renee AOH scenes and most importantly, I lost all of my ZFX scenes! I really miss The Reporter's AOH scene.

A few days ago the daily picture featured Supergirl tied to a post. Since then I have been thinking about whether it is currently appropriate to show SG in GIMP. DC Comics has changed Supergirl quite a bit over the years and in her current incarnation she is a teenager. Supergirl looks like she's about fifteen or sixteen years old in human years, and I am pretty sure that's underage.

You can see the cover of the most recently published issue of Supergirl's comics at this DC Comics page. You can also find more information on Supergirl's current age in this Wikipedia article, scroll down to section 3.4: Kara Zor-El.

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As to the propriety of Supergirl, I think it is a non-issue. If she first appeared in 1959 then she is over 50, technically. She has been older far longer than not. She is still drawn with a physically mature body, the artists' sole nod to youth being her height, it seems. But even more importantly, she is a drawn character. An illustration of an obviously immature looking 15-year-old Supergirl might be questionable, but the image you linked to doesn't indicate that. Those are not underage breasts. And while we're talking about that image, what's up with showing the beginning of her pelvic "V" above the waist of her skirt? If you want to question propriety, let's start there, in the mainstream world.

A few days ago the daily picture featured Supergirl tied to a post. Since then I have been thinking about wether it is currently appropriate to show SG in GIMP. DC Comics has changed Supergirl quite a bit over the years and in her current incarnation she is a teenager. Supergirl looks like she's about fifteen or sixteen years old in human years, and I am pretty sure that's underage.

That's a tough one, and I'm not sure there is a right or wrong answer. It probably depends on your own comfort level.

It's not just Supergirl. In the movie reviews section, for example, we have reviews of films such as Karla (reviewed by me) and The Girl Next Door, which are based on horrific true stories that involved underage victims.

My own standard is that I'm comfortable with that, provided the actress/model involved is 18 or older. Maybe I'm just rationalizing, but I tend to separate fictional stories from real situations, even when the fictional story is based on real events.

In the case of the Supergirl picture, the model looked legal to me, so I was OK with it (actually, at the time the picture ran, I hadn't given it any thought -- but I'm not sure I knew that Supergirl is supposed to be that young). Nonetheless, I recognize that others may not feel the same way, and I would understand why someone might feel uncomfortable.

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On a loosely related note, I assume everyone has seen the new Wonder Woman outfit?

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Jon Smithie: I personally think it is a serious indication of social decay that brutal violence is perfectly acceptable while sex is taboo.

I can't think of any societies, decaying or not, where brutal violence, under socially approved circumstances, is not acceptable. Or societies, regardless of their health, that don't have sexual taboos. I think this odd dichotomy touches on something fundamental in our natures (see below)

John Galt wrote:

I blame repressive religious attitudes. Religious texts are filled with righteous and justifiable murder and genocide, the perpetrators of which are held up for holy praise, while fornicators are stoned to death.

I think this ultimately can be explained by an appeal to biology. We are communal, aggressive, territorial, intelligent primates. As our communities evolved, so did the necessity to justify our biological drive to murder and rape. I agree with you that Religion fills that bill nicely. I'd add that in the major religions, fantasy is identified with reality. For example Jesus said that when you lust after a woman in your heart, it's the same as committing adultery with her. Bullshit. Just ask the woman. Religions are very uncomfortable with fantasy. Maybe because religions are built on wish fulfillment and irrational claims, and to point out the difference between reality and fantasy is to attack their constructed reality.

John Galt wrote:

Conversely, we do not attempt to justify the violent aspects of GIMP; nor do we, as is indicated on the masthead of the forum, condone actual sexual violence. We just enjoy the fantasy.

I hope nothing I wrote in my last post suggested that I condone or support actual non-consensual sexual violence or torture. I take the distinction between reality and fantasy very seriously. I too just want to enjoy the fantasy. I try to keep my remarks light and amusing in keeping with the context of GIMPs in--let's face it--what are generally endearingly atrocious movies.

John Galt wrote:

My thought is that the world would be a much healthier place with a robust fantasy life.

I'd like to believe that but I kinda doubt it. Speaking for myself, it really wouldn't matter if I had a robust fantasy life or not, or if I tried to repress my fantasies (as I did for much of my life). I still would have no inclination to carry out in reality any of my fantasies. I think there's people out there who are just mean sons-a-bitches, and fantasy ain't got nothing to do with it.

Whew! That's gonna be my last serious post. On to more enjoyable issues.

I downloaded Lupus films' movie The Warlock's Revenge. I'd seen stills of the movie on their website and finally took the 34 Euro plunge. My first impression is Wow! the whippings and canings are certainly realistic. I mean, I guess they are real, you don't get welts like that in make-up. And there were tears in one character's eyes as she was caned on a bench, and she's not a good enough actor to fake it. It's clearly consensual so I'm okay with it, but personally I'm more into medieval restraints than punishments. Two women were confined in a dungeon, one wearing an iron mask in a hanging cage with a wooden fiddle around her neck and wrists, the other on an unconvincing inclined rack, (they never tighten it) getting the water torture. The woman in the cage is placed in stocks with her legs spread wide, the racked woman, after being released from the rack, is whipped in a "relaxed" strappado, and then tied to an upright frame and whipped with birches. This looked painful too, and left marks.

The woman in the stocks is taken into the castle courtyard (This is all filmed in a beautiful castle--I'd like to know how they were able to procure that location), set stark naked on a wooden horse with a rather severe ridge I must say--no faking there either--and birched severely. This scene aroused my interest even though, connoisseur that I am, her butt was a bit too flabby for my tastes. Then the princess gets tied to a bench and caned. Real welts, real tears. Ouch. I felt a little frustrated and disappointed over all (of course, I'm a GIMPer) because the dungeon scene could have been better lit--it's hard to see what's going on in the cage, and I would have loved it if they'd dwelled longer on dungeon business, i.e. securing the victim in strappado or tying her to the whipping frame. There's too many gaps. By gaps I mean we never get to see a woman stripped prior to her confinement in the dungeon or secured for torture; we don't get to hear her plead with her tormentors before they begin their nefarious work on her naked body; in short we're robbed of the anticipation of what is to come.

The Princess is dragged down a hall by guards. In the next scene she's naked and tied to the bench for her caning. But what about stripping her? What about tying her down? These are things I don't want to miss. We spend way too much time sitting around the dinner table discussing affairs of state--I assume. These people could not enunciate. It sounded like they were spitting and hacking all the time. They may as well have been speaking Czechoslovakian. The plot seems really silly--something about a warlock in a bad Halloween costume insisting that the Princess get her ass beat. I guess they play it for laughs so the unconvincing acting isn't as noticeable. All in all not bad. The scene in the courtyard was worth the price of admission IMHO. I'll give it a thumbs up. I recommend it especially if you're just really into fairly attractive women getting their asses beat.

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By that token, how old is Tom Sawyer? The age of the character doesn't vary with when it was created. But: She has been older far longer than not. She is still drawn with a physically mature body, the artists' sole nod to youth being her height, it seems. But even more importantly, she is a drawn character.

This I agree with. I wouldn't want to see really young children tortured, but 15 or 16 makes a better line than 18, and it's all fiction anyway.

A Halloween costume party in a castle. The young lady who's wearing the Supergirl outfit is convinced by an old boyfriend dressed as Lex Luthor (who she brutally dumped) to be GIMPed on the rack. He has this large glowing green plastic "rock" of kryptonite so, as he jokes, she can't break the chains. He and his minions shackle her on the rack to the amusement of the party-goers and then convinces everyone to leave.

After everyone is trashed out he returns. Then the party (for him) really begins.

Question for fellow GIMPers--I hope someone can help a brother out. I'm considering custom ordering a bondage photo shoot but don't really know where to begin. Anyone on the forum have any experience? Dealt with anyone? Good or bad experiences? I checked with Consumer Reports but their information was limited. Maybe BBB--Better Bondage Bureau? Any help's appreciated.

Jon

I've seen a movie scene on one of the Oslo Neffeter compilations; the scene comes from an unidentified movie and if anyone would give me any info on it I would be extremely grateful.

The scene takes place in a cave, lit by crude lamps hanging from the ceiling. A naked, whip-wielding woman (she appears to be chinese, as do her captives) approaches two other equally naked women - both are restrained. One of them is bound in a sitting position, legs spread, the other one, extremely attractive (actually, she has a looks of a chinese princess) is bound naked, hands above her head, to a post. Their captor then proceeds to whip them, and we're shown their facial expressions. Once she's done with whipping the captor smiles and touches the 'chinese princesses' breasts with her whip, all the while smiling lustfully. Then the scene ends.

The setting thorough is extremely unrealistic - feels like it was fantasy film.

Does anyone know what movie does this scene come from?

The main question still stands, though: anyone know of scenes that are similarly nihilistic as Penelope Pace's fantasy towards the end of Supermax?

Nope, I can't think of anything like that. Many GIMPers get annoyed when a woman is forced to submit to a vibrator against her will, so I suspect the consensual scene you're describing (if I'm understanding it right -- I've never seen Supermax) would be tougher to find. In the case of most GIMPers, I suspect anyone who has seen something like that stumbled across it by accident.

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Jon Smithie wrote:

I'm considering custom ordering a bondage photo shoot but don't really know where to begin. Anyone on the forum have any experience?

I don't really have an answer to this one, either, but I do know there are GIMPers who have had customs made for them, and some were pleased with the results. So hopefully someone will respond who can help.

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Overall, I think we would all agree I couldn't possibly have been any less helpful in the answers I provided today. But at least you can't accuse me of ignoring the questions.

Your question, as well as the GIMP poll, have prompted me to rummage through the closet to find my WSIMD stuff. I'll let you know if I come up with an answer.

If you have any screen captures, that would be helpful too. There's a good chance someone here will recognize the movie if they saw some images.

You've given me many years of joy and pleasure.

May the GIMP last forever.

OK. This is is a party, so I'm gonna grab me a bitch and tie her up.

Re: the gimp poll ... I have tons of old dusty VHS tapes in my collection that are in desperate need for digital conversion ... the problem is the time and effort. I got a DVR/DVD recorder to do the initial VHS conversion to DVD ... and that will do the initial conversion of content ... and put some default chapters ... but the real work is in the authoring of menus and scenes ... which is low on the priority list these days with family life taking over.

Btw, I'm finally getting ready to do my China Beach GIMP fanfic. Real Life and other matters (non GIMP) have been in the way. But McMurphy and K.C.'s POW experience is about to get underway.

This forum was launched into cyberspace by the Gimp. It all started as a series of back and forth discussions the two of us had back when he responded to one of my ZFX reviews on the newsgroup alt.sadistic. He e-mailed me soon after and asked what I thought about an actual discussion site devoted to extreme bondage video. And a few days later this site was born.

And now 12 years later, we're still alive and still thriving, still celebrating tied-up women in all their various forms. And to celebrate, we've finally brought back an old favorite, Tony Wood's Torture Rack Scenes in Movies Database. It took countless hours of work restoring all the pages and adding new entries, pictures and video links, but I was determined to have it back by our anniversary. So take some time and enjoy it, tell me if anything needs fixed or changed, and please let me know if you have any new entries to add to it.

In the meantime, let me take this time to say thank you our loyal readers. Because without you, this site would have died out years ago. Thanks to everybody who contributes here and shares your opinions and reviews. We may not be politically correct, but we're proud of who we are and together, we've made this a pretty damn good site. Happy Anniversary to YOU, my fellow pervs and sick fucks. And here's to 12 more years of Girls In Merciless Peril!

My present for any not already aware are some very good torture scenes in the tv series Legend of the Seeker. Good sword and sorcery sadism, especially this scene from season one episode 15. The girl is hot, and screams wonderfully as a half dozen skewers are pushed into her. For mainstream tv this is damn good.

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Congratulations on resurecting the Rack Scenes Database. I enjoyed what I saw very much and look forward to return trips. Your efforts are certainly noticed and appreciated!

Always feel free to promote the GIMP at any of the Google Groups Linda and I own and manage (rack related or otherwise).

All the best!

Scourge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHXt2MdZa3w

Hard to believe such a diverse bunch of perverts could manage to keep this place humming for 12 years and yet it is so - will personally celebrate and pay homage to our host by getting in a view of "Bloodsucking Freaks".

Stay well all

Thanks again on resurrecting the "Rack Scenes Database"

Keep the site running, we all enjoy it.

Regards,

Kinkybitch

Friedrich, Baron von Folter

The comment about us "sick fucks and pervs" I just want to say "I resemble that remark".

Thanks Bman

We're working hard as well. We wrapped the shooting on Barbazul, my second mainstream film as writer/director, which has plenty 'o GIMP (we'll be leaking pictures soon). And of course we wrapped on Maleficarum in a great way. Now to start two more movies for Red Feline in the dungeon with all the goodies!

Happy twelfth and many more.

Just took a stroll down memory lane with the updated Rack Scenes Database. Great stuff!

I'm working on a story based on the pic of Supergirl on the rack that I hope to contribute as a small token of my esteem. If I can figure out a compatible format, inch'a Allah.

12 years is an awful long time, especially on the internet, where life here is often measured in dog years (though, I think it is a bit longer, like 10 to 1 versus 7 to 1!).

As I am now working on my 14th year on the web, I can certainly appreciate all the hard work and dedication that it takes to keep a website up and running. And, that it is a site that is continually being added to, to stay fresh month after month, year after year.

Thank you for all the information and entertainment that you give us all!

Vladi the Wizard

One of my big regrets is that I joined this community so late. I've crawled through some of the archives, but twelve years of posts is far more than I will ever be able cover, so I fear I've missed out on so much over all that time. Fortunately, the place remains lively, and the current contributions are absolutely first-rate.

The Torture Rack Scenes database looks fabulous. It's new to me, so I will be spending lots of time exploring one of my all-time favorite GIMP themes there. Great job!

Ralph, Thanks for all your hard work in keeping the place open.

Ralphus: Congratulations to you and Scribbler for getting us to this milestone.

I have a feeling this is going to be a banner year for GIMPdom.

And it's great to have the Torture Rack Database back. You know, it was the Whipping Scene database that led me here, but it was the TRIMD that sealed the deal. Although it took me a while to de-lurk, it was well worth the plunge.

This site is like a precious gem in the mire of the internet. Yeah, we might be sick, but we're GOOD at it!

Er...you know what I mean.

Jane von Detlefson wrote:

Wow, 12 years, congratulations! And Ralphus, I knew you were working hard since you hadn't posted here for a while.

Yeah, I wasn't really able to post for nearly a week, even though I wanted to. This rack database took a while to complete, and I knew I was on a deadline and had to make sure I got done in time for the anniversary. I think there were about 114 entries, most of which already had stills from last time, but I wanted to improve on them, which meant starting over from scratch.

First you have to acquire the movie, either through Netflix, downloading them off the net or in some cases, certain titles were only available in my own VHS collection, so those had to be converted to DVD and then capped. Then you have to crop 'em, pick the right stills (I limited myself to about a dozen per movie), label them, upload them and put together new pages. It can be a long process; sometimes I could only get a few done a night, which took away nearly all my free time.

I'm generally pretty happy with the way most of the pages turned out. Very few of the entries still have images from Tony Wood's original site; almost everything else is improved with mostly DVD quality images. At any rate, they were very best images I was able to create. I wanted to do this right.

I also did some uploads to YouTube for the database, since I couldn't find them online anywhere else. Lethal Games, License To Kill, Lois & Clark, Sign of the Cross, Superboy, Thief of Venice and Thor and the Amazon Women were all mine.

One of my favorites is Lethal Games; I posted about this one a few years back. This is another one that never made it to DVD (it stars Frank Stallone, nuff said), so I bought a used VHS to create this upload. If you check it out, this cute blonde girl gets tied AOH, she gets raped about 3 times (simulated...no nudity) and at one point she's suspended by her wrists, although she's back to merely AOH when we see her next. And great dialogue, too. Sheriff Parker is my hero! Anyway, it's a real nice scene that almost nobody seems to know about. Brian's Page doesn't even have it listed.

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Jazzbastard79: I'm late getting it done, but the direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL. And congrats on being a new member of the Reviewers Club.

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Fritz wrote:

By the way, lost or not, A Man, Eight Girls should be added to the Whipping Scenes in Movies database. The flogging in this film may not be all that realistic, but it is among the most erotic I've come across in a mainstream production. It goes on for about ten minutes, and both whipper and whippee are topless throughout.

I added it to the database tonight. That's one I've never heard of. It might be lost now, but that was also the case with The Pick-Up and The Bushwhacker and both got found years later. It sounds pretty hot.

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Jon Smithie: Thanks for the review of The Warlock's Revenge. I've seen stills from that before; never knew where they came from until now. Give me a letter grade and I'll add it to the Reviews section.

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Nice to see some old familiar faces back here. Give yourself a pat on the back; you're part of why this site is so good. Thanks for stopping by and helping us celebrate our anniversary.

12 years...wow. About 2 weeks (I think, maybe longer?) after the inception of the site I got an email saying basically "hey we are talking about you, come over". I cant actually remember if it was Ralphus or the Gimp himself emailed me, but anyway I started coming over and shooting the shit with folks.

Ashram: What other ZFX/shockwave films, or even other, older producers (like HOM maybe) have similar films w/ scenes involving nihilistic pleasure seekers?

I've done a lot of those types of scenes, just off the top of my head you might want to try Seed, Fair Warning, The Incubus, The Necklace. As far as HOM , they did a lot of stuff with girls paying with themselves imagining different stuff happening to them, but I couldn't name a specific title. Maybe one the resident "HOM experts" (you know who you are!) could chime in.

POLL: I have a huge collection of VHS stuff, I occasionally pull out something to check out. I doubt I will ever get around to digitizing them, but I wouldn't bother with DVD's, computers storage is better IMHO. I pulled out A Man and His Maid the other day and watched it front to back. One of the best bondage movies ever I think.

If I ever had a boatload of motivation I would love to do a Victorian era movie. I would even do a Snidley Whiplash train scene and have the chick not escape, lol=). Could happen someday...

Incidentally, I think VHS tape generally, if kept dry and cool and out of the sun, will last a very very long time. I have some tapes from the early 80's and they still play fine.

That's it for now...let's see some of you old timers step up and join the celebration! Calling AVF....

Rick

12 years...wow. About 2 weeks (I think, maybe longer?) after the inception of the site I got an email saying basically "hey we are talking about you, come over". I cant actually remember if it was Ralphus or the Gimp himself emailed me, but anyway I started coming over and shooting the shit with folks.

I don't think it was me, but I'm not sure. I had met you on the phone years before that but I don't think we had communicated online back then. Hell, I don't know, that was 12 years ago! I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday. It was probably The Gimp that sent you the e-mail. According to the archives, we opened March 29, 1999 (I was the first poster) and you showed up on April 5. You were our first "Notable Guest"!

I loved back in the early years of the site, interacting with Rick about the ins and outs of ZFX. We didn't have nearly the number of readers then that we do now (we had 17 posts the entire month of May 1999, for instance, and we had 30 posts in one day yesterday), but it was cool to get to ask questions and get answers from a filmmaker I really admired.

That's part of the reason why this site has survived over the years, because now we get producers and performers stopping by here from time to time and sharing ideas and opinions with their fans. We've had quite a few over the years, and I've tried to make it a comfortable place where people of a like mind could congregate without fear of social stigmas that one would normally get if they were to openly announce they liked seeing women tied up and raped, for instance. We're all pervs and sick fucks here. VIVA LA GIMP!

Yeah, 12 years is a long time. And amazingly the main forum page has been on dreambook the whole time. Granted that dreambook has had it's issues, at least they eventually fix them. Yaeeeee, Dreambook! ... no ... OK ... well, nevermind!

Anyway, congratulations everyone, this is your forum. And for the news on the lighter side of extreme bondage, otherwise known as not that extreme bondage, the 60s Batman show is on the air again, every night, cable channel the HUB, check listings. Yvonne is so cute. And Julie Newmar is beyond astounding looking, although unfortunately I don't think she ever gets tied up.

Congratulations on 12 years on-line and thanks for all you've done for those of us who enjoy various aspects of BDSM. Thanks to all your contributors, and posters, too.

I'm glad you liked the art-work congrats I emailed you yesterday, and I'm honored you set up a page to display it at: http://ralphus.net/dailypic2011/11_3_GIMP_congrats.jpg

Always wishing you success & happiness, with GIMP and in your real-life. Thanks for all you have done, and do.

Enjoy life, Mike aka MWB

And thanks for that Lethal Games AOH clip. Had no idea!

Rich

Dirty Deeds – 2011

Monicka Jaymes and Max Coxxx

Let me get my biases out of the way before I start this review. 1st: I love black women and wish we saw a lot more of them in GIMP and snuff films. 2nd: I'm not that fond of Max. His appearance limits the type of role he can play – I don't buy him as a manager in Teen Idol 2, for example, and his reluctance to take off his pants makes me wonder what he has tattooed on his ass. Chris Brown spoiled me for films from the Peachy Keen And Friends Empire.

That said, let's get to the film.

Monicka is in her “office” (a sparse cubicle in otherwise empty room) when Max comes up behind her. After a VERY weak and ineffective struggle, Monicka is cable-tied, hands (behind her back – YAY!), then feet, then hog-tied. Max lifts her over his shoulder and carries her off.

At 1:46, she's dumped on a table back at his lair. He takes off her blouse and skirt (no bra or panties, though – what office does she work at???). She's wearing white thigh-high stockings and about 3-4 inch heels. At 2:28, she's tied with her back on the table and knees tied to her chest and her pussy available for easy access. She's sporting a small green ball-gag that will fill her mouth until near the end of the video.

She cries a bit (very nice) and attempts to struggle (too late now, girl!). At 3:30, the shocking begins. All shocking is done with a set of jumper cables, one end grounded and the other grabbing a large sponge. The sponge appears dry now (that will change). She's shocked in the stomach on the neck and on the pussy, then on the neck again. Monicka sells this very well, fluttering her hands while the juice is on, and gasping and moaning when it's off.

At 4:40, the Hitachi Wand comes out, and Max gets her good and wet, as she cries some more. Max rapes her until 8:30, with the wand vibing her clit. Monicka is CLEARLY not enjoying this (yay!). (There's one tight shot of her mouth and neck, but not her eyes. Points deducted for that.) She's left to whimper and moan until 9:00.

We start with her legs tied wide apart on a spreader bar, up to her juicy ass (and nice pussy shot here), to find her face down on the table, arms stretched in front of her.

She's left to wiggle and moan until 9:58, when she's hit with the flogger. Max lands some very nice shots on her tight ass, and she yelps with each hit. I had to deduct a few points because in the side view, her face is obscured by shadows (great band name, huh?). Geez, Max, “windows to the soul” ring any bells? Anyhoo, He whaps her until 11:53, when he sets down the flogger and opens up her pussy,and at 12:14, fucks her from the rear until 13:14.

At 13:21, Monicka is tied in an X, arms and legs stretched very nicely, but sans heels.

Just the pose says “Pain!”. Ms Jaymes is a beautiful young woman, and this pose shows her off extremely well. Her breasts are round and firm, all natural and just the size I like. The camera explores her luscious body until Max comes back at 14:11, Hitachi in hand. He strokes her breasts (like any real man would do) and puts his hand around her neck. He squeezes for a moment or two before putting the Hitachi between her legs and rubbing her clit. He kisses her cheek and fondles her breast. He opens her lips wide before sucking her nipple. He swats her butt and pulls her nipple with his teeth. Ms Jaymes is having orgasm after orgasm, but it is nowhere near pleasure, especially when Max sinks two fingers into her pussy. He finger-fucks her, keeping the Hitachi on her clit. The pussy torture goes on until 18:36, the shortest 4 ½ minutes of the video. There's one very short bit where Max is behind her, wand on her clit and his other hand squeezing her neck. If I has the funds, she would be strangled (garrote, of course) to death in just this position! So very, very hot.

At 18:47, the jumper cables and sponge reappear, this time with a container of water. The sponge is repeatedly soaked before being applied, so Monicka acquires a nice sheen of water which looks lovely on her naked body. Max runs the sponge across her body – down her side, across her taut stomach, down her legs, etc. Again, Monicka does a great job portraying a woman in agony, writhing in her bonds and jiggling to great effect. The zapping goes on until 21:23, and we pan until 22:05 (including some GREAT face shots) when Monicka is tied in the last position of the film.

She's tied in another X, this one with arms and legs about shoulder-width apart, and the top held in place with a with a “patibulum” (the top-piece of a cross, for those of you who aren't Red Feline fans). The ball-gag is gone, but the stockings remain. She takes a moment or two to survey her newest predicament, before Max comes back at 23:07.

He re-inserts the ball-gag, and runs a large “movie-knife” (excuse me, “hunting” knife) over her body. He threatens to slit her throat and to cut off her nipples, but thankfully does neither. She agrees to suck him off in exchange for her life, so he frees one hand and removes the gag. She takes out his cock and sucks it – it's an excellent blow-job. Max claims to have cum in her mouth, but we don't see it, so we don't know if he did or not (a face as lovely as hers should have been creamed anyway, so points deducted here as well).

[Those not into the death fetish should stop reading here and jump to the conclusion]

At 29:59, her hand is retied, and she's stabbed in the gut and the knife jiggled a bit. This is, beyond any question, the WORST moment of the film. There's no “Ugggh!”, and we don't see her face until the knife is pulled about 19 seconds later. For a company that specializes in death-fetish movies, this is inexcusable. She coughs and cries, and as is usual in PKAFE, there is no definitive moment of death, no tense and release that I for one love in a death scene. She gently rolls her head to one side and stops crying at 32:00, which is when she dies, I suppose. One last pan of her corpse, with a small trickle of blood from the stab-wound down her side, and an even smaller one from her mouth, lasts 2 minutes and takes us to the credits.

Conclusion:

This film had a fair number of demerits – the shooting of the stabbing being the worst. If I was buying it strictly for the death-fetish aspect, I would give it a D. On the other hand, those scenes which are good are extremely well-done. As a hard-core bondage film, it's way up there. Monicka is so beautiful and sells the pain well. I would give this aspect an A- (if he had cum on her face, it would have been an A+!). It is well worth the $17 price.