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DHM-03: Surprising Sabrina (Dan Hawke Master Series)

The third DVD in Dan Hawke's Master Series, DHM-03: Surprising Sabrina, stars the diminutive Sabrina Sparx as a bitchy, spoiled boss's daughter who gets her comeuppance. There is a second feature on the DVD that exhibits Wenona getting her pussy whipped. The DVD includes the full-length Sabrina movie presentation, the Wenona clip, and a slide show of stills (or vidcaps) shown sequentially with a funky music soundtrack (like DHM-02) The slide show is about 24 minutes of Sabrina and about a minute and a half of Wenona (who is tied in the same position for her entire pussy-whipping video, so a minute and a half is sufficient). Once again, the images capture Sabrina in obvious distress, which is very enjoyable.

Surprising Sabrina begins with Sabrina sitting in a chair with a clipboard looking stern and professional. An employee comes in late and Sabrina reprimands her and threatens to fire her if it happens again. Not a supervisor to be trifled with, obviously. Sabrina is dressed like a librarian complete with the glasses. She is wearing a long gray skirt that falls to mid-calf, a blue front-button sweater and a light color-coordinated camisole. She is also wearing black stockings (the skirt has a slit and her slender shapely legs are crossed at the knee) and black heels that look sensible. Her make-up is a tad extreme for her "librarian" look. Her hair is an ungodly mess, though. Sabrina's hair always looks kind of thin and brittle and in this video it is dyed bright red (as I've seen it in other videos she has done) and pulled tight around her head into two small pigtails low on the sides. It is not a flattering look, but I got used to it as her other features and attributes drew my attention away.

Sabrina's cell phone rings and it is Daddy, instructing her to go check out the warehouse. Sabrina whines about having to go and Daddy reminds her he is paying her a lot to basically just sit around doing nothing. So, mumbling, grumbling and cursing, Sabrina sets off for the warehouse. There is probably more footage of her journey than was absolutely necessary, but she reaches the warehouse soon enough. There she finds Dan leaning back in a chair with his feet up and his hat pulled down over his face, snoozing away. She kicks the step stool out from under his feet and starts to give him a stern lecture. Dan angrily grabs her. There is a brief struggle before he chokes her into unconsciousness. End of set-up.

Sabrina regains consciousness sitting on the step stool she kicked out from under Dan's feet, with her back to a wooden post and her hands cuffed behind her back around the post. She is still dressed and wearing her glasses. Dan runs his hand over her chest and throat and Sabrina recoils from his touch. He removes her glasses and has her stand up so he can pull the stool out of the way. There is dialog, in which Sabrina threatens Dan and Dan taunts Sabrina. The dialog will not win any awards but then I am not really all that interested in their conversation anyway if you know what I mean and I think you do.

Dan begins by strapping a black leather belt around Sabrina's slender white throat and the post, and fastening it in the back. Then he pulls open the sweater (it was only fastened by a single button in front) and pushes it back off of her shoulders, revealing a thin gray-and-purple flowered camisole. Dan tears the thin right strap and pulls down one side to reveal Sabrina's fine right breast and the stud piercing she has through her nipple. Dan asks if Daddy knows about the piercing, which I thought was an edgy thing to say, hinting as it does at possible incestuous practices or yearnings. He caresses and squeezes her tits, and Sabrina looks and acts appropriately mortified and ashamed. He slaps her tit and tightens the throat strap. More tit slapping as Sabrina cries out.

Dan tries to tear the camisole, but it doesn't tear. So he retrieves a curved knife and sets it up under her right breast and comments on how it is the perfect shape and asks Sabrina if she wants him to cut her tit off. She cries out "no!" which is nice since a lot of time the models simply remain silent for the rhetorical threats of physical violence and disfiguration during these kinds of videos. Dan slices off the camisole to leave Sabrina naked to the waist. (Well, except for the sweater.) Next, Dan slices through the waist band of her skirt and rips the skirt down the front and off, to reveal that Sabrina is wearing pink panties and thigh-high black stockings. While he is on his knees in front of her, Dan takes the time to run the blade of his knife down the middle of her panties, accentuating her cameltoe as he presses in.

Dan squeezes and kneads her tits some more, slaps her crotch, then takes hold of her panties and pulls up hard and high, forcing the panties between her labia and eliciting cries of pain from Sabrina. He spends quite a while pulling on her panties as she cries out and says "ow" and whimpers. Sabrina threatens Dan again and he says he's tired of listening to her, so he rips off her panties, one side at a time, then stuffs them in her mouth and applies duct tape over her mouth. He tightens the neck strap one more time, and then pulls her feet farther apart and ties ropes to her ankles to keep her legs spread.

Next, Dan walks up with a mousetrap and snaps it a few times close to Sabrina's pussy as Sabrina fearfully screams through her tape gag. Dan clips the mousetrap onto her right outer labia. The mousetrap has a string attached to it, which he pulls taut and ties to her right ankle. He repeats the mousetrap-on-pussy-lip treatment for her left labia and ties it to her left ankle. The mousetraps keep her pussy lips spread open enough for us to see the ring piercing Sabrina has hidden inside. Dan walks out of scene and we get a few minutes of Sabrina struggling.

The camera does a slow and careful tour of Sabrina's tight body. Her legs are very shapely and the black stockings really accentuate their curves. Close-ups of her nipple piercings and the mousetraps on her pussy lips. I've already forgotten about her flaming red hair, and her pussy is smooth and clean-shaven. I enjoy the show, but, typically, I am ready to move on before the show ends.

Next set-up, Sabrina is tied AOH against the post, with her wrists bound together in leather cuffs. She has a red ball gag in her mouth. She is still wearing the sweater, but it is open and pulled back, so her breasts are fully revealed. She is still wearing the black stockings and she is straddling a diagonal four-by-four. She is perched on two stools to keep her raised above the four-by-four. Dan slaps her pussy hard enough to get a cry of pain.

Dan ties a length of string around Sabrina's nipple studs and ties it to a string that he throws over an overhead beam and pulls it tight, so that her nipples are stretched. Once he has her nipples secured, he lifts her ankles up to her thighs and straps her calves to her thighs so that her tender pink pussy is sitting on the diagonal wooden beam and Sabrina is "riding the rail," as Dan calls it.

More solo suffering. That ball gag really has Sabrina's mouth stretched open. Drool is dripping on her tits and belly. Close-ups of her distressed pussy and drool even drips down onto it as we watch. Sabrina groans and moans a lot. Close-up of her distended nipples. I will say that the solo-suffering scenes are much shorter than in DHM-02.

In the next scene, Sabrina is tied AOH, wrists together in the leather cuffs, with a spreader bar between her knees, in the middle of the room. She is still wearing that sweater, which is long-sleeved and covers her arms from wrist to shoulder and I am despairing that it is ever going to come off. She has a black circle gag tightly strapped into her mouth, forcing her mouth open and giving us delightful views of her pink tongue every so often. Dan knows how to do gags, I'll say that for him.

Dan stands behind Sabrina and gropes her while she looks helplessly violated. Sabrina plays a great victim. Dan pulls her arms up higher. He cuts at the sweater, but the material makes it hard. When Dan gives up, Sabrina is still wearing the sleeves up her arms. Damn.

Dan squeezes Sabrina's tits hard and then pulls an electric shock wand out of his pocket and shocks her right tit. For the next several minutes, Dan walks around and zaps Sabrina all over her naked body, including a shock directly to her pussy, which I have seen threatened before on other sites but I have never actually seen done. Sabrina screams and cries and struggles the entire time. He also teases her with it, eliciting screams even when he doesn't actually zap her. By the time Dan is finished, Sabrina's cheeks are wet with tears and she is crying steadily. I don't think she is that good an actress, so I will opine that Dan pushed her right to the edge of her limits. It is a powerfully erotic scene if you like seeing an almost-naked babe hanging by her wrists and being repeatedly shocked to tears. This should have been the climax because I am thinking Dan will not be able to top this.

While he has her stretched out AOH, Dan oils up the front of Sabrina's body. Next, Dan tries to attach a suction cup to Sabrina's right tit, and it looks like he sucks her entire breast up into the glass bulb, but it falls off. Too much oil, maybe. He tries a few more times, but the cups keep falling off. Oh well. Dan tells her that she's making him angry since the suction cups keep falling off. He asks if she is trying to make him angry. She practically cries that no, she isn't, looking for all the world like she is afraid he's going to use the electric wand on her again. He attaches clothespins on her nipples instead, then walks off camera. Sabrina's emotions in this scene are spot-on. It is a very satisfying sequence.

A couple minutes of Sabrina suffering alone. Dan returns and removes the clothespins. He feels her up and slaps her a bit. Fade out.

Next scene, Dan has Sabrina tied AOH again, but on her knees on a low table. Still wearing those sweater sleeves. He pulls her arms higher until she is on her knees, with her calves strapped to the backs of her thighs. She is gagged with a black ball gag. He installs a crotch rope and feeds the white nylon rope up between her swollen pink pussy lips and attaches a weight to the other end, hanging down in front of her. Then he sets the weight to swinging, so that it grinds back and forth through her crotch. Dan leaves. More solo suffering as Sabrina moans and whimpers.

In the final set up, Sabrina is tied in a standing spread eagle, with her wrists pulled up and apart and fastened into black leather cuffs and her legs spread wide using an extra long spreader bar. She has a red ball gag and yes, the sweater sleeves are still in place. Dan tries to cut them off, but doesn't succeed. I don't mind the black thigh-high stockings because they make her legs look incredible. But I sure wish those sleeves had just magically disappeared between scene changes. You know?

Anyway, Dan enters the scene and it is time for Sabrina's whipping. First, Dan uses a flogger on her front and her back. He takes a moment to tickle her. He whips her underarms, which are sensitive enough to make her cry out. He even makes her turn herself around. He whips her back and ass. He uses another type of whip. It is a pretty severe whipping, and Sabrina begins crying again. Sure enough, when he has her turn herself back around, her cheeks are moist with her tears. Dan whips her pussy, ass, back, sides, pretty much everywhere. Then Dan takes out the huge flogger and wallops her backside while she cries and jerks with each impact. It is a very intense and satisfying whipping scene.

And for the surprise ending [SPOILER ALERT! HA HA - AS IF YOU CARE], Dan welcomes in... Sabrina's father! Who paid to have Sabrina "trained." And is now standing here looking at his naked daughter strung up in a room being whipped and abused by an employee. Sabrina's Dad tells Dan to carry on and we fade out as Dan continues whacking Sabrina with the big flogger. Sabrina was abused for about an hour total.

As a bonus, Wenona's Endless Pussy Flogging starts immediately afterward.

Wenona is tied completely naked on her back on a large bed. One wrist is pulled up to the top. The second wrist is taped to her ankle and both are pulled up to the head of the bed. Her other leg is bent, taped calf to thigh. The tape is red. She is wearing a blue ball gag. Dan walks in and pulls the bent leg outward and ties it, although Wenona still can move the leg around, which she does as she is whipped.

The camera is stationary during this entire scene. It is just above bed level looking up between Wenona's legs. It affords us a nice view of her recumbent body. She looks delicious in this position, almost good enough to eat if she weren't being constantly whipped.

What follows is about 20 minutes of Dan whipping Wenona's pussy, and Wenona screaming and jerking and crying out when he manages to catch her just right. And when I say 20 minutes of Wenona getting her pussy whipped, I mean pretty much 20 solid minutes of Wenona getting her pussy whipped. Dan tells her if she asks him to fuck her instead, he will stop, but she holds out, so he threatens her with 50 more strokes. Even after he counts off 50 strokes, she holds out. So he threatens her with 100 strokes. And 100 strokes later, she is still defiant, but finally says the magic words: "Master, fuck me." We fade out before Dan fucks her. Heh. I don't know how Dan manages to persuade his models to let him abuse them to this extent. It is truly wondrous to behold Wenona's pain and suffering.

There are previews of DH-75 and DH-73 after Wenona's Endless Pussy Flogging.

SUMMARY: Petite and shapely Sabrina Sparx, even with her borderline hideous hair treatment, is extremely sexy as the spoiled boss's daughter. Her abuse is inventive and thorough. The mousetraps on her pussy lips look very painful. "Riding the rail" also looked like it was uncomfortable. The part with the electric shock wand was outstanding, made even more so by Sabrina's constant crying and copious tears, and her palpable fear as Dan wielded the wand next to her tender body parts. The crotch rope looked painful but paled in comparison to the electric wand. The extended whipping was very nice. There was a different gag for every scene, including Wenona's. Gag fans take note.

There were a few small distractions. Sabrina's tape gag started to come off in her first scene while she was struggling and moaning. Several times during all of the solo-struggling scenes I could hear Dan's stage directions. Sometimes they were entertaining, but they never rose to the level of completely distracting. There were even a few times when I think I heard Sabrina ask for a break, which kind of heightened the experience for me since it was indicative that she was being pushed to her limits. What can I say? I like that kind of thing.

Of course, I want my helpless babes naked and Sabrina never was naked. The stockings alone might have been okay, but I sure wish those sweater sleeves had come all the way off. Note to self: When playing BDSM games involving the removal of clothes, avoid long sleeves or take them off prior to restrictive bondage.

As far as the Wenona clip goes, it was straightforward enough. A beautiful victim tied down on her back on a bed completely naked and given a constant 20-minute pussy whipping is either something you like or something you don't. Wenona's cries of pain and struggling to avoid the lash and her jerking and writhing as the whip impacted her pussy were breathtaking. The smacks, whacks and thwacks attested that Dan wasn't just lightly tapping her. He did a number on her.

I might complain that the camera never moved higher since personally I like kind of an overhead view of a naked gal stretched out on a bed, but it would not have enhanced the scene. The stationary camera view was a perfect angle for catching all the action.

I think Dan Hawke did an exceptional job with this DVD. Sabrina's electric wand sequence and Wenona's 20 minutes of serious pussy whipping are stand-out scenes. I will go for a very strong B+ for this DVD. It didn't have any penetration or forced sex, which is kind of a prerequisite for anything over a "B" for me, but that electric wand.... Mmm.

This DVD is available at BoundandDelivered.com. The sales page features copious thumbnails of both Sabrina and Wenona from the DVD.

Actually, I'm not normally a fan of Dan's work -- I usually need a bit more torture than what Dan delivers. But Surprising Sabrina has caught my attention. I am definitely interested in the parts with the electric wand. I'm also thinking I might enjoy the parts with Wenona, who looked more attractive in the stills. I enjoy seeing a woman's will being broken. I think I'll check around to see if this title is available in my area.

I would add I don't think asking Sabrina if daddy knows about the nipple piercing is necessarily going into a risky area. Daddy could know about it without having actually seen it. To me, it seems well within the realm of a Hawke-ish taunt, reminding the victim she's a bit slutty and not the good girl she pretends to be.

Anyway, it was a comprehensive and well-written review that was fun to read. Thanks for submitting it.

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Personally, I'm glad it was you reviewing this one and not me. I don't think I would be able to get past the freaky appearance of Sabrina Sparx to enjoy the punishment that Dan dished out. I mean, what's up with the bright orange Ronald McDonald hair and the garish makeup, not to mention the piercings and the ass antlers? I've seen her in other bondage shoots and she's actually an attractive woman, but in some of these stills here she looks downright scary. If I were Dan, I would have taken one look and called off the shoot. Seriously. If you can't start off with an appealing victim your movie is doomed from the start.

As always, though, YMMV. I've been a fan of Dan's work in the past and when he works with a real beauty and puts her through the ringer, the results are often quite spectacular. I could watch Lass & the Lash or Bound on Blonde any day and never get tired of seeing those women suffer.

The direct link to your latest review is in my Homepage URL above.

Wenona is attractive, but so is Sabrina except for that horrible hair. She did that shocking red hair look for the longest time, and it always tended to put me off. But if you check out her latest shoots for SocietySM and FuckingDungeon, you can see that with more normal looking hair she is quite the hottie.

I don't know what it is about neon hairstyles. Maybe the models think it makes them stand out more, which it does of course but not in a good way to my way of thinking. But that's just me. Cherry Torn is an incredible model, but she went with pink hair for the longest time. Sarge did a few Backdoor Bondage shoots with her that were hot and intense (as of today, you can find several of them on the 12th and 14th pages of updates), but I still would have preferred a natural hair color. Oh well. She is still so absolutely hot. Especially when Sarge has her tied down spread-eagled on the floor. Yum.

Ralphus: Oops, sorry for the miscommunication. Those are still some good images you linked to, though. I didn't think it would be obvious in the stills, but you can see her distress in this electric wand picture in particular. Oh well, that's what she gets for wearing neon hair. Heh.

Dana Delany (McMurphy in China Beach) did her (sadly tame) BDSM turn in Exit to Eden. She was captured by the VC in an episode of China Beach but there was no GIMP. A missed opportunity.

I do have that particular episode of China Beach on tape. The VC grabbed Dana Delany and Marg Helgenberger in order to force Dana to operate and Marg be a blood donor on a VC general. The episode should've ended with both of them on their way to the Hanoi Hilton. Alas...

Another possible would've been Tour of Duty: Kim Delaney (of NYPD Blue and early CSI: Miami) played a reporter who was dating the platoon leader. She could easily have had a run-in with the VC...

If the sleeves were hiding tats, it might be better if they stay on!

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It would have been fun for any incarnation of the Enterprise to encounter a powerful race of aliens who got off on the suffering of women, from Uhuru and Rand to T'Pol and Hoshi. The guys start to come to the rescue, but realize that they love watching the suffering, too! We could call it GIMP Trek.

John Galt - as always a stunning review - I find myself somewhat torn on this as the film itself sounds yummy yet I fall in with the Ralphus comment concerning Sabrina's appearance - Bozo hair? - still, I may have to take a gander.

Brutus - was rather disappointed to find the NFL did not take your suggestion concerning reporterettes and Joe Namath - they must not be Gimpers - in honor of our host gnome I sent them a mail suggesting at half time all the sports babes be burned at the stake during the music portion - I never heard back.

Yik Yakker - interesting WIP site - hope to find some little known titles there as it progresses - thanks so much

Brutus - was rather disappointed to find the NFL did not take your suggestion concerning reporterettes and Joe Namath - they must not be Gimpers - in honor of our host gnome I sent them a mail suggesting at half time all the sports babes be burned at the stake during the music portion - I never heard back.

Good idea, but you have to know that the NFL is awfully conservative. Heck, they are still not over the horror of the Nipplegate scandal from a few years back. Plus that, if they had the public stakeburnings, that would leave huge black charred holes on the field and the players would be moaning about the playing conditions. I can just hear them now. "We can't run a play-action pass in the same place where they just burned some cheerleaders 15 minutes ago"...what a bunch of wussies.

Still, I say you have to cater to all your audience demographics. Some people tune in for the game, others just want to watch the commercials, and still others want to see what kind of halftime show they put on. I think they ought to consider what the pervs and the sick fucks care about next year. Check out my Homepage URL to see what things might look like if I were in charge of the halftime entertainment.

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Ralphus, Sloth & Brutus: Sarge had a perverse suggestion for watching and celebrating the Super Bowl posted on his blog, The Briefing Room, with a nice racked Dia Zerva as accompaniment.

An appropriate series ending episode for China Beach would've had McMurphy and K.C. captured by the NVA and on their way to Hanoi and the Hanoi Hilton. A two-hour episode detailing their POW experience until release in 1973. Kinda hard to compress five years into two hours, but I'm sure it could've been done. Too bad ABC never went along with it, but that's what fan fiction is for.

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I judge a porn movie by its cover. Lady Panther 8 got me excited by just seeing the cover but NSI4 doesn't give me that "the movie seem good" feel.

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I liked the Yuuna Mizumoto and Riria Himesaki movies.

Ralphus - that's certainly a blow-out header pic today - what a shame they couldn't have used that idea for the Uma Thurman/Lucy Liu fight scene at House of Blue Leaves in Kill Bill Vol. 1 - another missed Gimp opportunity.

Brutus - found a dvd of "Bits & Pieces" - it's located at wtfdvds - says the picture quality is fair to good, priced at $12.73 - if that transfer is equal to mine it should be pretty good.

Got a mail the other day from Video Search of Miami - all dvds now on sale at $15.00 each - some of those hard to find sleaze films are usually available there.

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The women in EP aren't always very pretty, but the tortures are always brutal, and the pain and tears very real. The scenarios are frequently funny, and the costumes silly, but for some reason I like their stuff most of the time... even though my tastes are bondage, torture, etc in mainstream movies... EP is a decent amalgam of the two.

The two women who are the subjects in this latest venture are both pretty attractive, and have great bodies, and shaved pussies. Not too skinny, or chubby, but voluptuous... all the better for the skin to react to the cruel bite of the whip.

The scenario is stupid as usual. The 1st girl has stolen a horse which belongs to one of the EP members... a very powerful one (aren't they all), and he's pissed. Since the normal avenues of justice haven't resulted in the recovery of the horse, the girl (the missing horse's former caretaker) has been brought to the club to tell where the horse is. Of course she'll be tortured until she talks.

The whole problem here is that the girls don't fight too much when being stripped and tied down. If it where me I be punching, kicking, scratching, etc. Here, they talk back a bit, and make a half-hearted attempt at fighting back before they are bound and secured to various torture devices.

That said, there's no fucking around here. The hot chicks are stripped completely naked... no shoes, jewelry... nothing, and the bondage is convincing as they are tied down to be tortured.

For the first torture, the mistress (Kyra) ties the girl in a standing full spreadeagle by leather straps. Pliers are applied to her nipples... but not all that hard. She's threatened with needles, and then single tail whipped. Its pretty good, and some nice whip marks appear on her stomach and breasts.

Since she still won't talk, she's tied down, lying on her back, arms out to her sides, but legs tied closed, but secured to a bar near the floor. She's semi-standing, lying down. She's single tailed whipped again, more forcefully, but she still don't talk.

Next, her legs are tied up and spread wide, and the mistress brings out a riding crop, and brutally whips her thighs and pussy the screaming and crying girl. She still won't talk, so the mistress says, "All right, now you're in trouble. 'The Master' will torture you now."

Whatever.

Anyway, some guy in a robed inquisition outfit has the girl tied in a standing X-frame. She's tied full spread, and her tits are bound... but not tightly as during the whipping the ropes fall off... really annoying as it pulled me out of it a bit.

The whip the master uses is pretty brutal though. A 12 inch board with what looks like speaker wire looped about 16" to form the whip part... nasty.

He's pretty forceful with the whip, and 12 good strokes across her soft titties later she's singing the name of her horse thief partner like a canary... which fortunately for us is a hot blond chick. Yeah!

So... now they get the other chick and bring her to the club...Blah, blah, blah, dialogue..."tell me where the horse is or else..." yadda, yadda. Just strip the bitch and beat the shit out her already, will ya?

The master has the girls legs tied, bent face up over an exercise ball (WTF?), while the mistress hold her hands. He uses hot candle wax (yawn), and then whips her tits and stomach (yawn), she screams (yawn).

Next the mistress goes at her tits with that board/ wire whip from the previous torture session... and she's brutal with it... dark blue/ black welts spring up on her tits... she screams and bucks appropriately. This is a nice long scene. Nice... but she still won't talk (yeah!), so they get tougher!

Next, she's tied down on her back in a spread eagle missionary position, and her thighs and pussy get it good with a riding crop... but this chick is tough and doesn't break yet.

Now, the master is involved again (good for us, bad for her), and the bitch is now chained in a standing spreadeagle. The master tells her that she will not endure the next torture... no one ever has and all her bravery from the previous tortures was for naught... she will talk now.

He now produces a CURLING IRON and asks her, "Guess where this goes?" (Oooo... I bet I know! :) )

She doesn't break yet, so he plugs it in... waits a couple seconds and touches it... bringing his finger back quick. Hmmm, is it hot so soon?

He then takes position under her, lying on his back and jams the hot curling iron into her pussy and holds it there! (Did he really do that? Get the fuck out of here!) The girl screams, cries, and bucks appropriately, but as predicted, doesn't last long with a hot curling iron jammed into her pussy. "The horse is at my grandmothers!" she screams.

The movie ends not too long after that, following more inane dialogue.

Overall, I'll give this a B+... which for me is a high mark for a porn clip. The girls are hot, have nicely shaved pussies, get the shit beat out of them, scream and cry convincingly, and at least there is a scenario here.

It's still porn though. They don't put up a good fight before the bondage starts, the dialogue in stupid, etc.

One thing about EP though, they know what their viewers want to see. The extras include a straight, face only, shot of the girl as the curling iron is shoved into her pussy.

Either she's the best actress, and deserves an Oscar, or that curling iron had a decent amount of heat to it. I choose the latter... :)

Would I have preferred to be born without my kink? No. It is so much a part of who I am, I can't even imagine who I would be without it. I found the posts about nature vs. nurture very interesting, though.

I understood myself better after watching an interview with Elton John where they were talking about his drug problems. He said the drugs weren't the problem. He has an obsessive personality. He couldn't just do some drugs; he had to do more than anyone. Then he compared that to his collecting of eyeglasses. I think many people have obsessive personalities. Some just find less harmful ways of expressing them than drinking or shooting up.

I am not an alcoholic. I used to smoke pot obsessively, but was not interested in coke, speed, etc. other than a little here and there. I collect rape related media obsessively. If I were wired a little differently, it might be coins, stamps, antiques or something more socially acceptable, but more than likely I would be just as driven. It's who I am.

The rape fantasy is just something that appeals to me and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. I know the difference between fantasy and reality, and have never experienced a millisecond of shame.

With regard to what is normal... I guess that depends on your definition of the word. If your definition is: everyone else is doing it, then consider this: GIMP material is literally everywhere! On this forum we have cited Saturday morning cartoons, TV shows, movies, literature, etc. It's in the bible and anywhere else you look. What makes those of us on this forum "different" is that we talk about it and admit to liking it. That's all. Girls in merciless peril (especially as entertainment) is a very normal thing.

Jefferson

Kill Bill could have been all sorts of awesome if they went into it with any heart. We could have had gorgeous women getting killed in wonderful splatter-filled mayhem, gasping their last in moans of pain -- wowsa. Instead it was quick kills of overdressed babes. Wottafrigginwaste!

Mike, Ralphus and I ask you to enjoy!

I was surprised to find out that we actually had no official Elite Pain reviews here up until now. I saw a couple of their movies before and wasn't super-impressed, not because of the whipping...which was actually quite severe...but because I thought the actresses were relatively unattractive so they didn't click for me. But I look at the pictures from this movie and both girls look damn nice to me. Not to mention those nasty red stripes adorning their bodies certainly look real.

As far as the torture with the hot curling iron, I've always wondered why curling irons aren't used more often in films like this. Think about it...they're the perfect size and length and when you plug them in they can do some major damage. Did they use it on the actress in real life? It's a nice thought, but they probably faked it. Then again, it doesn't look like they faked those brutal welts that they dished out earlier, so who knows? A sizzled pussy would take as long to heal as those other scars she's got now, so maybe it really was plugged in. Let's make her torture as real as possible, why don't we? At any rate, it turns me on.

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Ralphus, the penetration is shown, and the girl really reacts pretty violently... so it is the highlight of the clip.

BTW, Kudos on the jap snow bondage pics. I've seen these before, but they are always good to see again. This is a side fetish for me.

INSEX did a really great scenario on this them way back in the late 90s or early 2000s, but I remember this blond chick (not the prettiest model they ever had... but it was INSEX) was chained to a post... for a LONG time out in a snow storm. Her skin was really red, and her teeth were just a-chattering. She was REALLY crying. Then PD chained her in a hog tie, dug a hole and buried her with the snow so that only her head was visible. After she's buried the clip goes UNCUT for about 10 minutes. By the end she's just screaming and crying. By the end I was really starting to feel bad for her, I hope she got paid well.

What a classically great clip! ;)

If you think you can put a curling iron in a woman's pussy and burn her and she will not be SERIOUSLY and permanently injured, possibly killed, you need a reality check.

Your comments are, frankly, stupid and repugnant. You are crossing the line, again.

If we are talking about fantasy, fine. You start hoping for ladies being hurt IRL, disappointed that they aren't, you can count me out.

Some changes are going to have to be made here.

Rick

But in other news, I just saw a movie called "Alone With Her" and I found it to be very interesting, and nicely done. I'm wondering if any of you have seen it. I am not interested in stalkers, but I became slightly acquainted with them when I saw a documentary (that I was in) called "S&Man." Last year when I was studying aggression, I learned that the most dangerous time for a woman (who is in an abusive relationship) is the moment when she leaves the man. Well, that's a different type of stalker (the man knew the woman prior to the stalking). The movie "Alone With Her" is about the type of stalker who honed in on one girl, not having met her prior to the obsession.

I know that you would be more interested to hear about the graphic moments, but I just wanted to share my appreciation for the writing. The villain was very realistic - he wasn't some action-movie hero. He was a pretty average, almost nondescript person, someone you wouldn't size up as dangerous in any way. Hopefully more movies that handle this kind of subject matter will follow the same example.

Again, apologies all around if anyone is offended. That has NEVER been my intention, and to my knowledge there is no one on this forum who promotes harm to any woman in real life. Sometimes it's hard to tell around here, and I guess we need to be more careful about what we say here, particularly me.

Yeah, lets put one up your fat ass and see what happens. I wasn't talking to you, so fuck off. If I want any lip out of your coattail riding ass I shall rattle me zipper..haha.

Since you have a crusifix fetish maybe you could slip one of those in there too, eh.

Rick

One of the only ways to detect something like this would be if the post ended up sounding very atypical of the forum member. It would also be pretty easy to detect if the fraudulent poster came off as sounding a lot like someone else, like, say, that nimrod from YouTied who posted such virulent comments about GIMP scenes.

Just a thought.

You know, since there isn't really a registration or sign-in procedure for this forum, it would be pretty easy for someone to spoof another poster. Especially a well-known but occasional poster, who might not necessarily log on frequently enough to see his name being taken in vain.

Well, I guess I should confess. The post last month from "God" was really from me.

Been going back through the archives lately in a somewhat vain attempt to get a handle on all the Gimp stuff I have on film - I doubt I'll ever catch up on it but I did stumble across a little number I had forgotten - this is "Secret Report from Nagasaki Women's Prison" though I'm sure it has had numerous titles over the years - seems to be early 70's vintage and the movie as a whole is pretty standard Japanese WIP fare - couple of chicks executed but nothing spectacular.

There is, however, one memorable scene that makes for excellent compilation material. All the chicks in a certain cell are to be punished for some infraction. All are topless and bound wrists behind and upper body corded. They have metal candle holders in their mouths with two lit candles on each side. Two by two they are walked up a ramp to foot wide planks over an area filled with shards of broken glass. Directly overhead are swinging planks at just the height of their heads. They kneel and attempt to negotiate this gauntlet as hot wax drips on their boobs and they try to stay low enough to not get knocked over onto the glass. If they hesitate or drop their candle holders they get lashed. Pretty cool. It's available at Video Search of Miami but there are no cover shots, just a brief description.

Sooooo, may I assume we're going to do away with Gimp polls and do a weekly "Mystery Poster Contest"? - I guess flamers are the price we pay for our notoriety and high standing in non-pay bondage sites.

Stay Well All and good night "Rick" whoever you are.

And if this is a fake Rick, you are a cowardly piece of shit. Hiding behind other people's names to hurl insults on an anonymous forum is beyond pathetic. Grow up, you douche-bag.

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John Galt and Sardu: I'm a tad late, but thanks for the fine reviews. My thoughts:

Bozo red hair: Yuck.

Dan's gags: Oh yeah.

Curling iron torture: Yes!

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Sloth: I had previously checked out that DVD for "Bits and Pieces" at the URL you provided, but I read somewhere that the director was upset that the film was heavily edited, so he wants to release the uncut version on DVD. Of course, it's been a couple of decades since the film first came out, so maybe I'll just buy it if I get really tired of waiting. Thanks.

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God: Your URL to that Canadian church group gave away your true identity :-)

As to the issue of the curling iron I know for a fact that John Blakemore has actually done it in real life. I think there are some steps taken prior to the iron going in that will mitigate actual harm. Truth be told it is something we might try but not at the risk of the young lady who is modeling. There are many different things that the viewer does not see when these movies are being made. I feel my stuff would be more popular if I were move edgy or seemed more real life. But that is the paradox is it not, because we are drawn to what may at times revolt us. The trick is to pull it off and make it look very real with out hurting anyone. I am not there yet, but I am having the best time of my life trying to get there.

OK, some clarification needs to be made. Yes, it is me, not an impostor. I'm not the most frequent poster, but I do read as often as possible. I usually enjoy the site greatly. Last night my buttons got pushed, and yeah I was not in a great mood, but I felt the need to reign things in a bit and publicly say, "I'm not OK with this attitude."

Ralphus said: "Did they use it on the actress in real life? It's a nice thought, but they probably faked it." "A sizzled pussy would take as long to heal as those other scars she's got now, so maybe it really was plugged in. Let's make her torture as real as possible, why don't we? At any rate, it turns me on."

This struck me the wrong way and it still does. This NOT a nice thought. Sometimes I don't know where Ralphus is coming from, but maybe I'm being too hard on him or maybe I've not been hard enough in the past. I want to think he's smarter and better than that. It's not the first time I've been perplexed by his comments though. I will try to give him the benefit of the doubt that this mean spirited talk is not really reflective of his real attitude. It is not view I share if it is.

I have NO problem with the fantasy, hell, I like it. I have done many scenes with curling irons, at least 3. Dance Macabre, Liza Cord and Seed. There are probably more I'm forgetting. I have a whole bin of Irons, all different designs, rigged to do different things. None of them are ever used to actually burn people IRL.

These types of scenes are not meant to be replicated in real life. Like many things you see in the movies, if you actually do it, people will be seriously injured and possibly be killed. I'm not talking about the insertion, that's probably doable with the right preparation and depending on the type of curling iron. Its the turning it on part, the burning and more probably, the ensuing electrocution. It seems as if Ralphus and Bill Zebub, who decided unwisely to chime in and insult me, seem to think its not a big deal. I assure you it would be a very big deal. I hope no one is foolish enough to insert a curling iron and turn it on. We know better, right?

Bill Zebub: My comments to you were a bit over the top but, hey, if you open your pie hole, don't be surprised if someone shoves a pie in there.

Unlike most of you, I am far from anonymous. To a large degree, I must "own" the comments here because my company name is all over this site including the URL. People say what they will, but when the moderator says something untoward, it's problematic. He needs to be the voice of moderation, not escalation. I don't want to be, nor can I be, a censor on this group, and yet it is so closely associated with ZFX that it creates a dilemma.

If I have hurt any feelings, not my intention. What I said was a bit harsh. I don't want the site to slip into real life misogyny. If it does, there won't be a site, not with ZFX anywhere on it anyhow.

The models involved in bondage movies, erotic horror or whatever have you, must not be harmed nor should we want them to be. To injure or kill a model, to play fast and lose with their lives, for me is anathema.

Sarge: You thoughtful comments are always appreciated. Yes, if its faked it's not a problem.

Mr.?: Thanks.

Brutus: I was under the assumption that Ralphus was not in favor of actual violence, but there have been some things that he has said that concern me. I hope you are right.

Incidentally, it is NOT my intention to throw Ralphus under the bus, nor do I want everyone beating up on him verbally. He has, for the most part, done a fine job here and I think we all thank him for that. He has been a friend to ZFX for many, many years, helped me on many occasions. For that I am personally thankful to him.

For now, I will let this go, let's try to use some common sense. There are many eyes on this site, some not friendly.

Rick

BTW Ralphus KNOWs its me.

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sgtmajor: Thanks for the insight on curling iron use. The trick is always going to be to convince viewers that it is real, just like you say. That's what makes it entertainment.

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A Canadian: You dog, you. You had me going for a few seconds there.

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Rick: I deleted the entire rest of my post (which was prodigious) once I read yours. I think you are off-base, especially as to Ralphus' intentions and your almost-accusation of forum members' misogyny. I am a misanthrope, thank you very much. But your point is taken and is much easier to read and consider without the profanity and name-calling. Thanks for the clarification post.

As Bill said, it was well-written and well-thought-out, and the creepiness factor is pretty high. I hope that the stealth and surveillance techniques used are not realistic; this film might give a bad person some good ideas (or would it give a good person some bad ideas?). It's like a stalker's manual on film.

I will admit I feel torn by the situation.

On the one hand, I do think Rick makes a valid point that his is the most public face on this site. His company's name is part of the URL and many people find this site when they are looking for information about ZFX (in my case, it was when I was googling information for -- who else? -- Lisa Kinkaid).

So I can respect Rick's point about the unfriendly eyes watching this site and the need to be careful. That is definitely good advice.

On the other hand, though, I feel a sense of frustration. Must we constantly put in disclaimers about how we don't advocate violence against women in real life?

I'm troubled by Rick's comments about trying to give Ralphus "the benefit of the doubt." Do we really have some doubts? Hasn't Ralphus and just about everyone here made it clear that the discussions here are about "fantasy" situations only?

My questions aren't aimed at Rick -- they're more rhetorical, I guess.

The pictures this week of the woman tied up in the snow are a great example - they're quite extreme (in the sense that actually carrying out these scenarios could quite easily lead to serious health issues or death, if done by someone with no brains), but I think a lot of us are letting our minds wander down those more extreme paths. It doesn't mean we want the model/actress to be maimed or killed. I'll be damned if I even know what it means. But it it what it is.

I like the 'make believe' mean spiritedness of the ZFX movies I've seen - Warpigs and SOB pretty much define a genre for me - but I also love the fact that 'perennial victim' Lisa took it in a way where she could happily answer questions from us on film (just to use one example).

Sorry for yet another post without a point, folks.

I realize the comments were made when things were pretty heated on this site, but nonetheless I feel the attack crossed the line.

"We do not condone real life sexual violence in anyway"

"This forum is devoted to discussion of extreme bondage video...emphasizing the FANTASY aspects of extreme bondage"

All us regulars know this forum is about fantasy violence, but newcomers, or seldom readers, might miss the tongue-in-cheek nature of some of Ralphus and other poster's posts, so voicing these disclaimers every now and then can't hurt any.

Ralphus is one of my best web buddies, and I'm certain he didn't mean to really suggest harm to a real life actress. And I knew this even before his followup apology post to Rick's concerned post.

Sometimes (lots of times actually) tongue-in-cheek is hard to pull off if one can't see the face of the tongue-in-cheeker. I know I've had this happen before where I wrote something and it was not received or perceived how I meant it. Dry humor just doesn't work sometimes.

First off, I said it before, but it obviously can't be said enough. This forum is about fantasy, and no one here ever wants to see any woman harmed in any way, despite what might slip out while we're talking about the scenario being played out. And I did make a poor choice of words, and they came back to bite me. Instead of saying it was a nice thought, I should have said nice fantasy. That was what set Rick off, and it's easy for him to misinterpret the meaning of my comments. It doesn't mean I ever want something bad to happen in real life.

Also, when you're talking about real women appearing in these fantasy videos, it's not unusual for the subject to steer toward the actual actress who's playing a part. When Sardu was speculating if they really put a hot curling iron up the girl's pussy, I was just playing along with that notion. It was never serious to begin with. I mean, of course they didn't do that, I knew that. The entire idea is ridiculous. I just didn't let on. I don't always like to show all my cards.

I'm seldom even serious most of the time when I post anyway. Sometimes it's hard to communicate when one has his tongue in cheek unless you're constantly writing "j/k" or making a smiley after every line. I don't like to do that because it gives away that I'm joking, but the downside is that it's easy to have your comments misconstrued.

Also, I want to state publicly, if anyone has any doubts, that I don't hate women at all! I love women, really. We all have dark thoughts, and even women get into the whole rape fantasy while never wanting to be raped in real life. Some even get into being tortured. It doesn't make them bad people.

If I make meanspirited comments, I'm just getting into the male dominant fantasy. I've made what would seem like misogynistic comments and cheered on the bad guys even in the midst of reviewing movies, and so have others. Heck, Sardu was even getting into it in his review yesterday. Entertainment like that spurs people into saying things like that. But it does NOT mean we feel that way in real life. Making politically incorrect or sexist statements is taboo in nearly every place on earth except in our little men's club of perverts. Here, there's no restrictions, but we still have to watch ourselves from getting too carried away. It's not the way we really feel, or at least not the way I feel. Not at all.

Bottom line, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding, and I really feel bad if any of you think I'm some sort of woman-hating monster. Anybody who knows me in real life knows I'm a complex guy who gets off on sick entertainment but would never hurt anyone in real life. Hell, I don't even squash spiders, I rescue them and take them outdoors. I know the perception I made for myself on the forum is part me but it's also partially an act. Obviously, not everyone gets the joke, but I hope most of them do.

And I don't want anybody throwing Rick under the bus, either. We all have bad days and get mad and say things we probably wish we shouldn't have. I know I've done that before on the forum. The reason nobody even believed it was him posting was because it's so unlike him to lash out like that. But you know what? It's part of being human. He was mad over what he interpreted was a hateful attitude on my part, and he had every right to think that way. I hope this goes a long way toward explaining some of the things I've said in the past.

Rick is a great guy and a great artist, and he's thinking about leaving the site and wants me to pull any references to ZFX because he doesn't want to be associated in any way with the kind of thinking that I communicated here. That hurts me a lot, because obviously I'm a big ZFX fan and I don't want to end our relationship here over what it is ultimately a misunderstanding. I would rather close the forum down than to continue running an abridged version without his blessing.

It would be hard to deal with, because I've put so many years and so much work into making this a good site and it would ultimately be my fault if he leaves. If you guys want him to stay, this is your forum. I've stated my case to him directly via e-mail, so let's hope we can get him to change his mind. He belongs here, of that I am certain.

What can I say that hasn't already been said?

Rick, I was kind of surprised at the abrasivness of your post. I've been reading this site for years... long before I started posting, and Ralphus has always struck me as having a quirky sense of humor in regards to this subject.

Elite Pain is a peculiar site. The whippings are pretty brutal, and for all its goofiness the torture are actually painful for its models. I don't believe they put a boiling hot curing iron in that girl's pussy for one second, and I wouldn't want that to happen to someone in real life, but I do enjoy the FANTASY.

Trying to anticipate what someone who is not part of this community will think of what they read here is an excercise in futility. Even the most banal of our conversations are probably over the top for a casual "vanilla" reader.

This is an awesome forum, and I'd hate to see it go away, but if we can't speak freely about what is just a fantasy, than its pretty pointless.

Rick, give the little guy a break will ya?

Lisa, do me a favor and chain Ralphus up and beat his chunky little ass good, will ya? He's been getting a little rowdy as of late, and needs to calm down. And while you've got him so restrained give him a haircut. I can't tell you how I've always hated that "midget afro" haircut of his. :)

On the other hand, though, I feel a sense of frustration. Must we constantly put in disclaimers about how we don't advocate violence against women in real life?

With a statement like Ralphus' above, I think we do. I read it the way Rick did, and it threw me, too. And he and I know Ralphus -- someone new to the site isn't going to have that advantage.

Instead of saying it was a nice thought, I should have said nice fantasy.

There we go! That makes **ALL** the difference. Thanks, Ralphus. Great write-up all the way around.

And if anybody's still unsure about where Ralphus's heart and mind are at, let's not forget where he got his nickname from (which I've often thought might also confuse new posters, who I can imagine wonder why we're so obsessed with the height challenged).

Ralphus, I don't know you per se, but most of the time I agree with you and you're spot on with your reviews. It's a perception thing.

John Galt: "Near-accusations" of misogyny? I think what he said is he will leave this site if it starts down the path to real life misogyny.

A Canadian: I have a feeling Bill is going to waiting a loooong time for that apology. I personally laughed my ass off. Bill Zebub made a cute remark and got served. Oh well.

This might be a bad time to ask, but since I've gotten my lazy ass to post after 5 years, any word on new ZFX? Rick??? *ducks and relurks*

Satana

Sadly, it's not the Best of Lisa movie the world has been waiting for (well, maybe not the world...), but it is good news nonetheless. Now, aren't you glad you posted?

Exotic dancer set on fire outside LA bar

Feb 6, 4:38 AM (ET)

LOS ANGELES (AP) - An exotic dancer was set on fire outside the club where she worked early Thursday, burning more than 60 percent of her body, police said. They were searching for two suspects.

A woman and a man called the 27-year-old dancer outside around 1 a.m. and then doused her with a flammable liquid next to the Babes & Beer sports club in the San Fernando Valley, police said. The dancer ran back inside and patrons came to her aid, police said.

Police identified the suspects as Rianne Celine Theriault-Odom, 27, and Nathaniel Marquis Petrillo, 22, both frequent patrons of the club. They were being sought for investigation of attempted murder, police said.

"Given the condition of this victim, they may be responsible for ultimately her murder," Deputy Chief Michel Moore said. "This is a terrible, terrible attack."

Moore said the dancer, a mother of two, was in grave condition after being burned over more than 60 percent of her body. Her identity was not immediately released.

A sign at the club indicated it was a sports bar. A message left at the club was not immediately returned.

Rick wrote: I don't want the site to slip into real life misogyny. If it does, there won't be a site, not with ZFX anywhere on it anyhow.

I think the site would quickly disappear if that happened. I sure as hell wouldn't stick around, and from what I've read, 99.9% of the regular and irregular posters would leave as well.

I reread Ralphus' comment about the curling iron. Yes, it could easily be construed as condoning or cheering for real-life violence against women. And Rick's criticism is indeed warranted on that front.

That being said, let's take a look at the person who wrote the comment. He's fooled many people from the start by pretending to be Luis De Jesus (who died in 1988). He's even described shoots from BSF that he was supposedly a part of. He's had an ongoing personal storyline about having Jessica Alba and Aria Giovanni tied up in his basement. And he's talked about kidnapping a few of our female posters.

Tongue in cheek? Certainly! A promoter of real-life violence? I don't think so.

Let's also take a look at what he does here. He has to deal with spam, flames, off-topic posts and all the crap that comes with Dreambook and, recently, AOL. And he uses his spare time to add new features and spell check and organize all the reviews that flood in.

He's also the most prolific poster in this board's history. He often posts just to start a discussion or to keep a dying thread alive. I estimate that he's provided well over a thousand messages on this forum. How many have crossed the line? Less than 1 percent, I'll bet. I'm sure that most of us would slip in a gaffe once in a while with that many comments, given the nature of the topics we discuss. Now, I'm not condoning some of his comments that could have been phrased better. But give the guy a break. He's not getting paid for this.

Rick, you have definitely hammered home your point to Ralphus (and everyone else) about being more careful with our comments. And the forum is obviously a better place with you and ZFX around.

But if you really feel the need to disassociate yourself and your company from this site, so be it.

Just let me add that it would be extremely disappointing if a misunderstanding prompts you to turn your back on someone who has supported your films for so long, raised the alarm against people stealing your work, and fought, in his own way, against the tyrants who want to force you out of business.

BP: That's some scary shit there. That poor woman. That article certainly does drive home the disgusting nature of real-life violence against women. Death would be too light a punishment for the perpetrators.

I try to check in at least one a week and although I don't always post, I read everything on the board like I have since this board was a year old and I'm trying to take in everything that has gone down here in the last week.

My first overall thought is I believe "we" have finally reached the point of taking all of this too seriously. I mean this type of adult entertainment is a fetish for many, a lifestyle for others and a form of passing time for others.

I can see how Rick could have taken Ralphus' comments the wrong way and be concerned and angry that Ralphus stepped over a line. I also saw though the role Ralphus was playing in his posting. I just would have thought that after all these years the two of them could have cleared the air and straightened things out privately and then share with us whatever clarifications they needed to make.

Hopefully, they can get past this and clear up whatever "gray" is between them so all is crystal clear and they are on the same page.

That all being said, I find a lot of irony in this though because I find much more hypocrisy in "mainstream" forms of entertainment by far. When you're watching any adult entertainment, I would imagine 99 percent of everyone understands it's adult fare, fantasy and the models are consenting. Any model getting literally hurt etc. would, I am sure, be headline news in the adult entertainment websites and those producers are essentially done as word got out they didn't do their thing safely or misled a model.

In the 'mainstream' you can find all sorts of movies in the theaters, at Blockbuster, PPV, on-demand etc. that show incredible violence toward women (and men too) that involves mutilations, torture and murder. Yet, I don't recall EVER seeing disclaimers at the beginning of movies from Hollywood telling us it's fantasy!

Same thing with TV and all the screwed up crime drams shows that depict usually women being hunted, tortured and you guessed it killed. And, then how about the violence in a lot of current music styles too.

Anyhow, the type of exchange Rick and Ralphus had has been going on for years (now decades) between people. Folks are STILL debating the infamous and legendary "Blue Series" video of that incredibly busty brunette being skewered with the longest needles I've ever seen being pushed through one side of her tits to the other as blood flowed. And that was made in the 70's or early 80's I believe.

And since I was a collector of the Cole-Whitman loops of the 70s and 80's, you could look at those and debate where those women really put through some of the intense pussy and tit torture we saw?

The answer is always 'no'...it's film, it's erotica. With the exception of the one percent of wannabe producers and directors who don't know how to do things and wind up hurting someone (sometimes intentionally) it's all MAKE BELIEVE!

I guess it can never hurt to more prominently display disclaimers etc. against real-world violence especially today when it seems more and more folks can't distinguish the difference and then try to blame everyone else and influencing them.

But for me, I can easily find more disturbing images and actions on TV, in mainstream media and entertainment. But I have always looked at erotica as simply adult entertainment and nothing more.

I mean, come on, even the extreme stuff you find on Elite Pain, I would ASSUME, is consentual no matter how extreme and intense it may be. I have to believe that a woman is not going to have her tits burnt, skewered etc. on video unless 1) she is consenting, 2) gets off on it and into 'pain' as well as being a sub and 3) the maker has all the legal stuff covered and signed.

If this wasn't the case, wouldn't we be reading many more stories of women getting seriously hurt or lawsuits/arrests/cases etc. of producers being arrested for rape, torture etc.????

BTW......looking at the tit skewering on Elite Pain leads me to believe even more the infamous "Blue Series" video was not real given the fountains of blood that came out those boobs and how the skin didn't move or react like real tities would under the circumstances like you see with Elite Pain. I am in the school that the tits in that "Blue Series" video were rubber.

Mwb

Now if anybody should be concerned about differentiating between real life and fantasy its me. A guy with "Glatman" for a nickname? (For the uninformed Harvey Glatman was a serial killer that used bondage and photographed his victims back in the 1950's). Yeah, OK, its entirely possible that there is some bad taste mixed in that choice. Frankly there is probably a bit of bad taste involved with this entire subject. But lets be realistic. There is likely a small percentage of freaks reading this site right now, not to mention any other related site including ZFX, or Hogtied, or Natasha Flade, who really do get off on hurting another human being be they female or male. There is no way to stop them from being here. But it is also absolutely true that for the VAST majority of us, including me, that the idea of really hurting a girl is horrible. Its just a fantasy. PERIOD.

I don't blame Rick for being protective of his good name though. Things like this, if they get out of hand, could destroy a career. Not to mention that they could cross a strongly valued moral line. (Yes, we GIMPers do have morals!) and its also good that we address this once in a while. Its like fumigating the site. But I am also sure, by years of reading this site that Ralphus was making a tongue in cheek comment and that's all.

The thing that first attracted me to this site, besides the gratuitous porn, was the thoughtful tone of the whole thing. It made my own fantasies seem valid, and not so weird. We need a place to vent and share ideas, even if those ideas are perverted. Personally I don't want to lose that place. Now, can we get back to what we come here for? Ralphus, how about a pic of a pretty blond in a nice tight hogtie?

In the 'mainstream' you can find all sorts of movies in the theaters, at Blockbuster, PPV, on-demand etc. that show incredible violence toward women (and men too) that involves mutilations, torture and murder. Yet, I don't recall EVER seeing disclaimers at the beginning of movies from Hollywood telling us it's fantasy.

Amen to that zfx'r! When I watched the Super Bowl, I saw more violence in the commercials than during the game. A guy gets a bowling ball dropped on his head, one gets hit in the nachos, another gets run over by a vehicle. Did the FCC get a call from that parent TV group (somebody help me with the name)? (sound of chirping crickets)

I am also of the opinion that profanity, personal attacks, and name-calling are always uncalled for. Unlike you, I do not think it entertaining in the least. I strongly suspect if it had not been Rick, it would have been moderated away, as well it should have been. There are more respectful ways of disagreeing, and pervs though we may be in some respects, we do maintain certain standards of decorum on this forum that I find refreshing.

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zfx'r: Don't even get me started on the double-standard applied to violence vs nudity and sex in mainstream entertainment. I'm with you and YikYakker. You two hit the nail on the head.

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VM said: Have known Ralphus for many years, having met him in person on one occasion and I still feel he's a stand up guy.

You mean, despite the fact that he's a woman-hating pervert, right? (Okay, no one can see me, but you all need to picture me with my tongue firmly in my cheek....)

I strongly suspect if it had not been Rick, it would have been moderated away, as well it should have been.

Exactly.

Seriously guys, thank you very kindly for all the nice e-mails, phone calls and the positive show of support on the forum. When a guy is down, it's really comforting to know that he has friends. That really does mean a lot.

Mr? and Satana: Thanks for nothing, guys :) No seriously, at least we got two more lurkers to come out and post, even if it was to say what an asshole I am :)

I'm a little uncomfortable being the center of attention and realizing that that probably the best thread we've had on this forum for a while has been to debate whether Rick or I was right and whether or not I really meant what I wrote. Suffice to say that I screwed up...again...and that no, I don't want to see any woman harmed in real life. Rick and I have exchanged e-mails and we've kissed and made up. Well, not literally. I'll dance with a man if he has money but that's as far as I'll go.

Bottom line is...the crisis has been averted. There won't be any changes to the site. We're still here and so is Rick. I just have to be careful not to blur the line between fantasy and reality, and so does everyone else.

I know it may not be easy, but let's try to limit our discussions to movies and away from real-life crimes. I'm not saying we can't discuss them, but let's make sure that anyone who reads this page doesn't form the wrong opinion about any of us. Rick told me that this whole thing got prompted by a complaint (I don't have any details). Remember there are ladies reading too. They get freaked out if they think we really are out to get them.

Remember this is a public forum and anyone in the world can click here and read what we're saying. We can discuss how much we like deviant movies but let's be careful. I'll never forget that Lindsay girl who stopped by a few years back, read what we were talking about and then posted that we were all just a bunch of sick cretins who liked to beat women with sticks. That was actually pretty funny but obviously there are some women out there who believe that. So let's just use caution in what we say here, okay?

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zfx'r wrote:

Folks are STILL debating the infamous and legendary "Blue Series" video of that incredibly busty brunette being skewered with the longest needles I've ever seen being pushed through one side of her tits to the other as blood flowed. And that was made in the 70's or early 80's I believe.

I had the disadvantage of being told in advance that they were fake tits before I even saw the movie, so I couldn't really enjoy the fantasy once I saw it because they indeed did look like big rubber tits. I was never fooled by them for even a second. Check out this still: http://www.imagebam.com/image/4e25b925956162

It's a great illusion if you can suspend belief, and I'll give them an A for effort. Since then, though, people like Torture Galaxy have done stuff like that for real. It's amazing that they can find masochists who will allow themselves to be mutilated like that. That takes away the fantasy and moves it into the Fear Factor category for me, though. It's like how much can you endure while the camera is running?

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Glatman wrote:

Now, can we get back to what we come here for? Ralphus, how about a pic of a pretty blond in a nice tight hogtie?

Good idea. Check out my Homepage URL above.

I agree mostly with Sardu in the comments below. (Well actually, I agree completely with Voltaire in the linked famous quote).

Satana, I often don't like what is said here, either, but I like the fact it's being said.

Brutus, I don't want us to be more careful with our comments, ever.

I don't think the distinctions between fantasy and reality drawn by Glatman and others are sharp enough. Because ... there is a reality to our fantasies.

Like Ralphus, I too am one of the most gentle souls on the planet. I have never deliberately committed violence against another person in my life. I, too, help little old ladies cross the street and bring spiders outdoors. And I'm just about the most Love Bondagest poster on this site.

And yet, I would be lying if I didn't admit that rarely, but yes sometimes, I have thoughts of actual violence against others.

This happened to me the other day. I learned that someone I know who is a real-life jerk who causes a lot of people unnecessary grief is taking a plane flight, and I joked to another person, "Hopefully their plane will crash."

Would I really in real life want their plane to crash? Of course not. Is it even a fantasy? Well, I guess, albeit a fleeting one. But why deny the sentiment? There was truth in the sentiment. This person has fucked me over before. It is human nature to think about what it would be like to see them fucked over.

All of us men on this board do harbor thoughts of real violence towards women (and to others besides women). Don't deny it. Every single person on the planet does - it's human nature. We've all experienced women taking advantage of us and cynically hurting us at some time in our lives. We all muse about revenge on occasion. The musing is unquestionably real.

The question then is about two things, I think - the depth of that very real sentiment, and the ways we go about expressing it. I'm guessing that when life perverts a person into the gnarled damaged soul of an Osama Bin Laden or similar type of violent Godless jerk, both of these factors are in play and have the chains off. A jerk like him presumably feels that sentiment of hatefulness not as a passing fleeting thought but at a high-pitched persistent level. Add to that a lack of self-control, his willingness to express himself through words and actions in persistently real life violence ways, and you have the horrible deadly combination he is.

Ralphus' comments made me wince but they didn't bother me, and shouldn't bother anyone else on this board, you included, Rick. What is the sum total of Ralphus's expression of his sentiment? How does he act out? Is he acting out and grabbing women off the street and stuffing them with burning instruments? No, to take him at his word. And as you said, Rick, the worst crime you think he has committed is on a couple of occasions he was honest and used words to describe a real harsh thought he had. Oh boo, hoo, cry me a river, how horrible he must be! Give me a break.

It seems clear he has his manner of expressing himself firmly in control. He uses the pen, not the sword, and he uses the pen most of the time, lightly.

As to the other prong, the depth of his sentiment, one can see that it is a lot stronger than, say, mine. I would guess Ralphus has experienced that common fucked-over-by-a-woman reality in his life a lot more often or more painfully felt than I ever have, because when he has the good graces to reveal his soul to us on this board and isn't afraid to be honest and show that he occasionally thinks of things like fire, and burning hot irons, it's clear he is admitting truthfully to himself the honesty of his occasionally feeling like that.

If anything, Ralphus is to be commended for his comments here. Rather than romping out in the streets expressing his real pain in real violence, he keeps his natural desire for revenge in check by instead commenting on this board regularly -- heck, moderating this board -- and can even laugh at himself and make jokes about what he is aware he is truly sometimes feeling. He has risen above his pain and made an art and a comedy of it, he has adopted his own inner better nature.

Rick, I love your movies, but you were the one way out of line here. I'm sure there is some reasonable explanation going on in the background of your life, maybe something to do with fear of oppression or censorship, but that is no reason to ask any of us to self-censor. Fuck any shriveled up vanilla shriff prunes who might be watching us. Their problems are a lot worse than ours. They're watching us because they're jealous that we're more honest with ourselves and each other in 5 minutes than they could ever be in their lives.

And so my own rant segues nicely into the question about shame about our BDSM tendencies, or not. Of course not. I'm proud to be the way I am. I enjoy it. I always have. It brings enjoyment to others, too. It is a quality to be proud of. I feel sorry for the prunes, they are the ones who should be ashamed at their own internal twisting which would make them want to eavesdrop on others and impose on others with their censorship.

Oh yes, someone asked about the religious nazis sending the FCC complaints about a boob. It's the so-called Parents Television Council, or PTC. I like to think of that as standing for Pointless Terminal Cunts or something similar. I think I read they are responsible for literally 99% of the complaints sent to the FCC about TV. Nobody else cares ... because any reasonable person (even parents) sees that nothing that has been on TV has been all that bad. How obsessed and perverted are they? What truly sorry wastes of space.

zee-ef-fucking-ex

I was under the impression that this site had open minded members with not only a dark erotic side, but also an awareness that things that are said here, describing our forbidden fantasies were that and nothing but. Yet, I see that some members don't understand that we do have an internal line in our heads that keep us "normal" and would never engage or encourage harm to a woman.

Knowing Ralphus as I do, I know his extreme comments are meant in jest or shock value and are not to be taken literally.

What I actually meant to say, was: I am also of the opinion that personal attacks and name-calling (and profanity used in conjunction with them) are always uncalled for.

Fuck, I just don't know what the hell I was thinking....

The problem I have with the whole discussion is with the difference everyone is making between fantasy and reality. It sounds a nice clean line; fantasy all in the mind - cannot hurt anyone - while reality can.

The problem is that we slide from a fantasy of pushing a needle into a woman's tits into the reality of seeing it happen for real. (No - not the Blue Series, but certainly the Torture Galaxy series). We have lots of films of women being spanked and caned and it was for real. The woman felt the pain and coped with it. I am not unhappy with that, I am enough of a masochist to know that spanking and caning is not that terrible - but sometimes the damage seems much greater than I would accept - maybe its makeup - maybe its not.

We have films in which women are penetrated by all sorts of objects (a cactus in one case and a spiked dildo in another that I can think of). I assume that both were faked in some way and in the cactus case, the woman smilingly did it to herself so certainly consensual.

I suppose that I have reached my point. Life is more complicated than fantasy/reality; it is more complicated than no harm/harm and I am afraid it is also more complicated than consensual/non consensual. The lines some people are trying to draw about it all being fantasy are not realistic

I quite believe that Ralphus did not mean to do what he said, but other (non Ralphus) comments on the board (some of the political ones around election time, a few recently about Republican "hotties" and some of the comments on films based on real life torture and murder) have started down a slippy slope. Normally it has been Ralphus who pushes back and tries to make us stay in the land of acceptability. I cannot blame Rick for worrying about where it was all going. I sometimes wonder myself.

These things are not a problem if the woman, adult, sane, fully informed and rational, not coerced, is consenting of her own free will. Not unlike a wrestler getting bashed on the head with a chair.

(Spinal Tap reference. Fans of the movie will get it; everyone else will be scratching their heads.)

Disclaimer - This post does not advocate or condone violence directed at humor in any way. Attempting this at home could lead to being blind-sided with a profanity filled tirade or worse, having all the fun sucked out of the room. No jokes were harmed during this post. All jokes are 18 years or older at the time of the post pursuant to 2257. Keeper of Records - Abdul Hassan Al-Mashasi, 1 Nutria Plaza, Tabriz, Iran.

Mr? - congrats on delurking - with my limited mental capacity it was necessary for me to reread your post numerous times - "Rick is right" - finally, I was able to discern the subtle content of your post - since I now know you have great insight into the inner workings of this forum perhaps you could help me and a number of other Gimpers out - I spent all day friday going through the Gimp Bylaws, the Gimp Rules Manual and almost 10 years of posts - nowhere was I able to locate the section that reads "All potential posts must be submitted to Rick for editing and approval" - probably just missed that so could you cite it for me please - I freely admit to being a member of the great unwashed masses desperately seeking enlightenment so step up and take one for the team - I anxiously await your response.

Stay Well All :-)

I'll start us off. I'm a mailing list for Asian Cult Cinema and one of their new movie offerings has me intrigued. Anybody ever heard of or seen Dying God? Here's part of the synopsis:

In a decadent city, corrupt cop Sean Fallon is forced to face his own demons when he attempts to solve a series of brutal rapes and murders. The victims are all women, each sharing the same mutilations stemming from obvious sado-sex assaults.

If you check out the smaller pics on the order page (linked above), there's a couple of shots of women in some serious distress, one of whom is bound and gagged while topless. Also of personal interest for me is the appearance of one of my favorites, cult B-movie queen Misty Mundae, who goes by the name Erin Brown now but she'll always be Misty to me. I have no idea if she will end up as one of the victims, but she's never been one to stray away from roles that involve both bondage and nudity, and often both in the same movie. Netflix isn't carrying this one; think it's worth coughing up the $25 to buy it?

Bill Z: Yes, a woman could die from having a burning hot object inserted into her V, because the resulting burning and destruction of the sensitive tissue would cause
1.) a shock to the system, resulting in actual shock
2.) the body would shunt blood to the affected area, again resulting in shock.
3.) the destroyed tissue in that area could easily become infected, causing septicemia, (poison in the blood). This can happen with many types of disruptions to the excretory system. Hear about the South American model who dies of complications from a urinary tract infection? Messing with the junk is no joke.

There are two schools of thought on the human body: one holds that it is durable, miraculously resilient, and can take a lot of punishment and still be alright. I call this the Rumsfeld/Gonzales theory. The other holds that the body is a complex, delicate organism that can be unpredictably, severely damaged or thrown out of whack when injured or when unhealthy or toxic substances are ingested, leading to severe, permanent damage. I call this the House MD. theory. Play it safe at all times, and bear these things in mind.

Furthermore, a woman who survived the kind of injury we are talking about would have a permanently damaged vagina, would not be likely to have normal voiding of the bladder or bowel movements without terrible, agonizing pain, and would be unable to have sex or children, and would be far more likely to develop severe infections for the rest of her life.

Welly, welly, well me droogies, looks like all the sharp knives are coming out now. Now, yall been having some fun at my expense, I DO believe its my turn!

Not at all unexpected, either. Don't worry, you wont hurt my feelings (keep trying though, it does amuse me so). Every feeling I ever had died long ago. I've been insulted and slammed and hated on more than most of you can ever imagine (and that's just in the last 2 days). 22 years in this business will give you a hide like concrete.

I did not intend to tell posters to watch what they say, I was telling the moderator. Some of you seem confused. I know people that post here will say crazy shit, like Vince for instance.

The last time he posted, sounding like a rapist on a bragging spree, someone threatened his life. If you start talking about raping in the first person, that might happen.

I guess that's the wages of crazy talk. Vince doesn't run the site though (thank God), Ralphus does. I hold him to a higher standard.

It's when the moderator says things that are over the top it takes on a tone that is less than palatable.

But lets call a spade a spade, shall we. Ralphus said something that in fact does condone real life violence. That's is not acceptable to me. Period. You can cry and stomp your feet all you want. Some of you sound more pedantic than Donny Rumsfeld. I didn't like what I read and I said something. Guess you will just have to deal.

I will ALWAYS speak my mind, like it or lump it. If you insult me, particularly if you are a producer, don't be surprised if I insult you back. And I WILL use profanity. Sorry Johnny Galt, you need to toughen up bro. Or fuck off with Bill Zebub=) Do you need me to hold your hand now? Are you OK? Where in the hell did anyone EVER get the idea I was some mild mannered guy? Jeezus.

Lets revisit the quote in questions, shall we:

Ralphus Said: Did they use it on the actress in real life? It's a nice thought, but they probably faked it. Then again, it doesn't look like they faked those brutal welts that they dished out earlier, so who knows? A sizzled pussy would take as long to heal as those other scars she's got now, so maybe it really was plugged in. Let's make her torture as real as possible, why don't we? At any rate, it turns me on.

Now, he was referring to a real model, in the actual production of the film. Those are REAL events, not fiction, not fantasy. Wanting a model to be burned for his amusement, well, lets just say I have a big problem with that. Clearly not in keeping with the theme of this site. Make whatever excuses you want.

Truthfully, I don't know or care if Ralphus is a monster. It's not my problem. That's for the LEO's to worry about. If he's a monster, he will end up in a cage with the rest of them. If he SOUNDS like a monster on HERE, then we have a problem.

When he says things that have fans bitching that the site has turned into a misogynistic free for all or that I am tolerant of that, it then it becomes MY problem. Thus my attempt to reign him in. Out came the knives...

The flippant message at the top of the page tells me loud and clear that I have not gotten through to the guys who runs the site. To Ralphus and Scribbler, it's all a big joke I guess. Pity, that.

All posts to the site must now come to me for approval...good idea Sloth! Send em here: gofuckyourselves@pedantic.com. See, I got jokes too..and knives. I kill every spider I see. Go call PETA on me=) Some of you seem to care more for a spider than a pretty girl. Go figure.

Rick

PS: DHT: Exactly, thanks.

The flippant message at the top of the page tells me loud and clear that I have not gotten through to the guys who runs the site. To Ralphus and Scribbler, it's all a big joke I guess. Pity, that.

Okay, first off, Scribbler had nothing to do with it. I do the daily picture.

If you're objecting to me adding a dose of relevant humor to the caption under the daily picture, well, I do that nearly every single night. I'm not going to apologize for that. If you think that's somehow proof that I consider the matter a "big joke", then you're wrong.

I apologized multiple times and thought I explained myself. I can't unring a bell. What I wrote is up there and I was wrong to say it. It was misinterpreted from the start and most of the posters seem to realize that. I thought you did, too, apparently not though because you're still harping on it.

We really need to put this issue to bed. Hurtful things have been directed toward both of us and I'm willing to roll with the punches and move on. I hope this matter is closed, but somehow it just keeps on renewing itself and taking over the site like a cancer. It's an open forum and if that's what's on people's minds, I'm sure this subject will continue, but there's not much more I can say other than to reiterate what I said and to apologize once more.

It is a dark time for the Forum. Although the Initial Crisis has been averted, Unexpected Censors have driven the Forum forces from their normal discussions and pursued them across the void from fantasy to reality.

Evading a potentially cataclysmic forum confrontation, a group of freedom of expression fighters led by Ralphus has struggled to maintain reason and civility.

The inimitable Master Rick, obsessed with protecting his Good Name as a sexual-violence-and-rape-themed pornography producer, has dispatched hundreds of random words and a few personal attacks onto the forum....

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Ralphus: Back on topic, "Dying God" ain't worth $25 in my opinion. The pic with the topless gagged woman in leather cuffs was part of consensual bondage play. I'll provide more details about the film after the dust settles.

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Rick: Other than Bill Zebub's post, I really don't see all these "sharp knives" that you refer to.

Heck, I can remember my siblings and I joking around when we were kids, rubbing our hands together like mad scientists, and gleefully citing all the demented things we could do to other people. "Oh yeh, well I'd cut off his nizzers and feed them to the dog, mwah hah ha ha ha ha."

There's a scene in the 1964 Beatles movie "A Hard Day's Night" where John and Paul are trying to impress a group of pretty young ladies on the train. John goes over to them and drops to his knees and rubs his hands together gleefully and cackles about his escaping from his jailers, and how the girls will never guess what he was in jail for. It's implied it was rape or some kind of perverted violence.

Should the producers of that movie have been warned they shouldn't ever show the scene where someone plays up a thought of violence against women over the top, or otherwise folks will take their ball and go home?

"Rick? Can I have my ball back?"

I guess one needs a good sense of humor to read Ralphus' quote the way it was clearly intended. Knives? Nah, words are poisoned darts of pleasure. :-)

zee-ef-[CENSORED]-ex

I didn't know it was called the blue series. Somewhere I saw a HOM photo set with same model topless. In photo set, she has rather small boobs, so yeah, in the movie, those are fake.

The flippant message at the top of the page tells me loud and clear that I have not gotten through to the guys who runs the site. To Ralphus and Scribbler, it's all a big joke I guess. Pity, that.

To Rick: Don't run the site (just help out). Didn't post message top of page.

First of all, Rick, I've always loved your movies. NOBODY make a great pornographic, bondage, rape, horror film like you do... especially in the later years. The South of the Border series is top of the mind for me.

That said, you're a porn producer that has made some of the most misogynistic violent films ever made. You have no good name to lose, you produce smut. It's high quality smut, and I love it, but it's still smut.

We here on the board indulge ourselves in our love of said smut, and say some pretty smutty things. Out most basic observations on this topic are already "over the top" for just about anyone "mainstream" looking at this site as it's SMUT!

Who are you going to lose your "good name" to?? Talk about an oxymoron... "The good name of the bondage torture rape porn producer."

Reality check to Rick: you have no good name to lose. Its tough, but that's the reality of the business you're in.

The next episode is called ZFX Strikes Back.

Deep in the bowels of the Pornstar ...hmmm, I like the sound of THAT!

Rick to Ralphus: (mechanical air sounds) Ralphus, I am your father, It's TRUE! Join me, and together, we will rule the extreme bondage universe!

Ralphus: NOOOOOOOOOO! (huge fucking battle ensues, the weapons...curling irons, of course.)

Ralphus, can you type with one arm? If this goes down the way I figure, Rick is fixin' to burn your arm off. The good news is, Princess Leia will be there with her big tits to help you heal. The bad news is, she is your sister. The good news is, you don't know that (or probably care lol).

I do believe Leia is in for a rough night of bound and gagged titty fucking. She can't say no to a maimed dwarf especially with her panties in her mouth=)

Lets hope the Gimp site doesn't end up like Alderaan.

Seriously though, I think this will be OK, lets keep our sense of humor and take a deep breath. Rick, Ralphus..STOP. You guys ARE on the same page even if you don't realize it. I truly believe that. There are enough people out there who hate US ALL.. We must not start on each other. Lets pull together.

It sounded like Rick was just poking back a bit in fun. Or he has lost his fucking mind. Or both. Either way, I can see his point. Speaking of which...

Brutus and those sharp knives: John Galt and zee ef ex seem to be holding sharp objects. Etu, Brute? Sorry, it was too perfect to resist. Lets put them away, shall we.

At least this is not dull. On the other hand, it aint pretty. Let's hope it ends soon. I think it's run its course.

BlueSeries: I have seen the stills, is there a movie? It's a great scene!I Do think its fake though, which to me is better as long as it looks convincing.

A Canadian: Thanks for the info. You know a lot about ZFX. How so? Just wondering. You seem like you have the inside scoop.

I have not bothered to post in 5 years. Now 2 posts in 2 days. This might be a personal best.

Santana (drooge with an olive branch, not a knife) *relurking*

PS if this comes out messed up in the html, can some fix it .. thanks!

In my head, the goons are telling the one they're forcing to watch to reveal some secret, while the one on the wheel is bravely saying "no, don't tell them"... and just before the spikes reach her, I plan to burst in and rescue them both.

And if others have different fantasies... that's their business, isnt it?

Rick has a name and a business to lose and we have a web site to lose.

Rick's name may not be favourite with the religious right but he does have a good name for producing high quality bondage videos that are acceptable (just) to the majority of people because no real harm is done to anyone. If that majority thought that Rick approved of anybody really being harmed, he would be shut down instantly.

We all need to maintain a line between acceptable and unacceptable and most of the posts here implicitly support that idea. Quite where that line lies is the difficult bit. Some say "fantasy only", others say "with consent", others say "we said we would snuff her out but why did you believe us". Well, because you said it. (The pedant in me makes me say not you as in Sardu. I just cannot write in the third person!).

People will argue back that context matters. I agree if it is local context. If you are relying on something at the top of the page that I cannot see any longer, that is surrounded by banners etc to give your local remark context then I believe you are wrong. A lot of people lose their jobs from being quoted out of context.

I love tying up women..very sexy.

A Canadian: Thanks for the info. You know a lot about ZFX. How so? Just wondering. You seem like you have the inside scoop.

Indeed. I don't normally like to say too much about this, as it could sound like bragging, but Lisa insists on writing to me on a regular basis.

Just kidding. I don't have an inside scoop -- Rick posted something near the end of 2008 that talked about the new stuff he is working on. And the man who seemed to have more details on Rick's announcement was, in fact, Ralphus.

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Satana also wrote:

I do believe Leia is in for a rough night of bound and gagged titty fucking. She can't say no to a maimed dwarf especaily with her panties in her mouth. =)

That's a Star Wars moment I would have enjoyed, particularly if Leia were wearing her Jabba's slave outfit.

I guess I should say I am only speaking about the fictional fantasy and would never have wished any actual harm on Carrie Fisher.

This thing DID run its course and I don't see that anything else needed to be said. The humor (by all) was clearly a way to calm the mood and bring things back to normal.

HELL, the home page to this site is full of disclaimer and the man has apologized in triplicate. I can't see why a man made of concrete needs to beat a dead horse.

What I wrote was written as a fantasy nothing more.

Why's a post I wrote as a piece of fiction any different or worse than the movies you create which is basically to serve the purpose of turning men on and can't be openly shared in the major society?

You may have done this work for 20 years, but considering your relentlessness in trying to take Ralphus' words out of context and disagreeing with those who support him, I don't think your hide is thick enough.

Maybe what you think is that with the exception of yourself, you think we're a wild bunch of thoughtless careless misogynists.

I think I can speak for myself and many members that we are not and we don't need lectures from a guy who makes his living using women as props.

Does anyone know the name of the actress in the linked URL? I think she's cute, and I've never seen her before.

zee-ef-ex

Calico.

Dammit to hell, how many times have I told you to stop fucking swearing? [grin]

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think it's worth coughing up the $25 to buy it?

I dunno -- how allergic to bad SFX and cringe-worthy hairstyles are you? The 2nd and 3rd pictures are screaming "Buy me!" but the 4th is saying, "not so fast now!

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It's high quality smut, and I love it, but it's still smut.

Oh, smut how I love it -- give me smut and nothing but.

The adventures of a slut

Novels that pander

To my taste for candor

Fill me with pleasure sublime

Let's face it I love slime!

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In my head, the goons are telling the one they're forcing to watch to reveal some secret, while the one on the wheel is bravely saying "no, don't tell them"... and just before the spikes reach her, I plan to burst in and rescue them both.

For me, the lower wheel isn't moving -- it's just there to be intimidating. The girl on the wheel is in the perfect position to be lashed -- 25 should do nicely I think. Then she'll be slowly strangled while her sister watches.

Once the older sis is done, it's younger sis's turn!

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Does anyone know the name of the actress in the linked URL? I think she's cute, and I've never seen her before.

It appears she goes by the name "Calico". You can see her spread (in every definition you can think of) on the Hogtied page, and her Kink.com shoots are in my URL.

Was rid of the harem for some hours this weekend and a pal had loaned me a little number I had never seen although it is infamous in the extreme. Regrettably, I had to get it back to him already but I'm certainly going to pick up a copy for myself.

A Japanese film from, if I read it correctly, 1976. Alternately known as "Oxen Split Torture"/"Shogun's Sadism", it is one of the "Joys of Torture" series. Very nice bondage/rape scenes, brutal torture and no happy endings. What's not to like. And a mainstream movie to boot. Suspect I'll get all three entries in the series.

Stay Well All

I found a trailer for Shoguns Joy of Torture at Japan-shock.com. There is something eerie about watching a trailer of a Japanese torture movie that is dubbed in German and with German titles. So World-War II torture movie-ish.

I'll be interested in hearing your take on it. Bald-headed women kind of put me off, but I can probably overlook it.

Just to get on to another completely different topic, is it me or is a chick's sluttiness directly proportional to the size of her clit?

All the girls that I've ever had that were dead fucks always had little clits... the ones that fucked like whores had big ones. Coincidence?

My current GF, who is a complete freak in the sack has a big clit. She's always playing with it... frequently texting me at work to let me know she's masturbating while thinking of me. I've mentioned before about how I pussy whipped her and she loved it (even though she was crying at the end of it).

Oral sex is wild too. A couple of times she's ejaculated in MY mouth she came so hard....lol. Anyone else have similiar RL experience?

Title: Super Heroine Close Call 13 (Giga THP-13)

Starring: Yuna Shiomi

Directed by: Schwarzeniii

Running time: 90 minutes

Anyone seeking an introduction to the much-discussed Giga movies would do well to start with Super Heroine Close Call 13. Yuna Shiomi stars in this flick as a sexy detective from outer space -- she fights, is tortured, and suffers sexual exploitation and humiliation in a movie that is wonderfully effective.

Certainly, the film has a certain cheese element to it. The fight scenes aren't convincing, the lead villain is a ham (this is obvious even in a foreign language) and many of the costumes look like they were lifted from an old episode of Doctor Who. But we'll let the sci-fi geeks worry about that. What counts are the GIMP moments and in this film they are compelling.

The fun starts when Yuna is captured during an outdoor fight scene. After knocking around some villains dressed in zebra-striped masks and body suits, Yuna is overpowered and suffers some knocks. As villains hold her arms, one guy gives her some kicks to her stomach and Yuna (who is wearing a helmet with a visor) also receives some punches to the head -- not entirely believable, but not bad. She collapses against a pillar and a gun is pointed at her head.

Now a captive,Yuna is next seen indoors, trapped inside a large roof-high cage with three male villains (the guys in the zebra-striped outfits). The helmet is gone and Yuna is wearing a sexy, skin-tight white costume with white gloves and white boots. The villains are holding Yuna by the arms in a standing position and feeling up her excellent body. Yuna, who is pretty cute (although her teeth are a bit yellow), does some terrific acting in this scene. She squirms and grunts and protests as the villains paw and lick her costumed pussy, tits, legs and ass. Yuna looks truly disgusted as two guys start licking her pretty face and one guy forces kisses on her, including running his tongue along Yuna's clenched lips. Even though Yuna's fully dressed, there are some amazing wide shots of Yuna wiggling and struggling as her face and body are licked and mauled.

The lead villain -- a guy with long hair, a funny big-toothed mask and a blue suit (he looks like he could be from a Bill Zebub movie) -- shows up and Yuna demands to be set free. It's a great moment -- Yuna's defiant demands are made as the villains continue running pawing Yuna and licking her face. The lead villain laughs and orders his men to step things up a notch. They rip open the front part of Yuna's costume to expose her nice breasts. One guy starts fondling Yuna's right breast while another fiend sucks on her left tit. The villains rip open the lower part of Yuna's costume and stick a vibrator device in her pussy, which works it's magic until it makes her climax.

The vibrator has clearly affected Yuna, making her uncontrollably horny. She willingly sucks one villain to completion and then sits on another guy's face.

When she regains control of her senses, she escapes and more fighting action follows. Yuna is captured for a second time and taken to the villains's warehouse-like lair, where she is bound arms over head to the ceiling. This time, she is wearing the black and red costume from the movie's cover art, along with the helmet that has the visor.

The villains work over her costumed body with some vibrators. Then, one of the zebra-suit guys gives her a whipping. The whipping scene looks pretty intense, although it wasn't always clear that the fast-cracking whip was actually hitting her body (the scene is shot from different angles). Nonetheless, the whippings cause some rips in Yuna's outfit -- exposing a breast -- and some bleeding on her skin.

Finally, Yuna is bound to a table on her back, in the costume with the rips, and with her arms and legs securely cuffed to the table. The bottom part of her costume has been ripped open and a Robocop-like villain with a black skull for a face rapes her. This is nicely done. Yuna's helmet has been removed so we can see her face during the ordeal, and she lets out some pained yelps each time the villain thrusts into her. At one point, Robocop-ish villain stops thrusting and argues with Bill Zebub-ish looking villain, but he eventually gets back to business. The rapist doesn't get to climax, though, as a scientist guy with a powerful rifle arrives and rescues Yuna.

My grade: A-

I enjoyed this movie. Yuna is a sexy and believable heroine and her best moments are convincing and hot. This film is definitely recommended.

Hi guys,

I have an announcement to make. I just got off the phone with Rick Masters. He's filed a complaint with Dreamhost over copyright infringement, since our current website address has the 3 letters "ZFX" as part of the URL. His intention, which he claims he had no choice to do, is to get this site shut down. He said he no longer wants anything to do with the site, that it's caused him problems and also claims he's gotten complaints and 100 e-mails a day from people that think he runs it and supposedly think he's promoting real-life violence because of his association with it.

I was flabbergasted by the news, because you know how many e-mail complaints I've gotten, after moderating it for the past several years? Zero. Not a one, ever. To which Rick responds, that I ought to spend a week in his shoes. He is a victim of his own success; everyone knows ZFX and he lives in constant fear that he will be a target. He said he's so successful now that he doesn't feel he needs promotion and that this site has been a problem to him instead of a benefit.

Bottom line is he wants out. We are no longer allowed to bill the site as a ZFX discussion site. Any reference to ZFX has to be removed; no copyrighted pictures, no banner, anything that bears the ZFX trademark must be removed, or else I will get sued.

What he doesn't like is the direction of my moderation. He said in the early days of the site when The Gimp ran it, it was so much better for him because there no banners and no competition from other companies. He resents that I used his trademark to give business to other companies and that's why he quit posting here initially.

I make no apologies over the direction the site went under my watch; indeed, if I kept it strictly a ZFX forum it would have died years ago. It's awfully hard to run a discussion site for a company that puts out 1 new movie a year, and none for the past 3 years, and whose creator seldom ever posted himself, maybe a few times a year, tops.

So where do we go from here? My initial response is to build a new Dreambook, looking a lot like the current page, and try to get people over there. Hopefully Dreambook will allow some sort of redirection for people that click on our current link, although from talking to Rick, this site may be gone at any moment.

We've got a lot of work to do. Rick Masters has forced my hand, and I'm guessing we have very little time left under this current URL. Stay tuned for further updates, and don't be surprised if you click on this site and see a 404. At least some of you will know what happened, and why.

I honestly thought the problems had been resolved. Looks like I was wrong.

Maybe this will be for the best. It sounds like Rick had lost faith in the forum some time ago and I'm sure he's telling the truth when he says he doesn't need the publicity. Still, it's the end of an era. You guys have been friends for a long time and I feel bad seeing things go in this direction.

I hope the site remains active long enough for most regular contributors (and lurkers) to see the news.

However, please don't inundate him with e-mails yet unless he says okay. Or even decides to transfer to a new URL.

Too bad a URL with "zfxsucks" still has those problematic three letters. But "gimp" would work just as well.

My two cents.

It took one egomaniacal asshole to ruin it for the rest of us.

When you do build the new site I hope it's bigger and better.

As for Rick, he's pretty much lost my business.

I am bitterly disappointed in RM. His behavior during this episode has been appalling--- beginning with an unjustified nasty rant which most could not believe came from him and culminating with him blindsiding Ralphus and using "bullshit" tactics to force this great site to shut down. I believe the man has cracked from the strain of protecting his "empire" rather than concentrate on what he did best---make damn good bondage-- torture-- rape porn. Que sera.

Ralphus, I think what was one of the best things about this site---having input from, and displaying banners of various high quality bdsm producers was probably the overriding factor for RM to want you to cease & desist---a pretty crass reason and one beneath the man I thought RM was. Keep your head up Ralphus. You did good, kid! And if you decide to carry on, that would be great!

When you compare it to the work of Gord, Dan Hawke, Jay Edwards, Dom Wolfe, etc...it's pretty easy to see a major difference in quality and talent. Best of luck to ya, ZFX you won't be missed. And if I'm reading your posts correctly you won't miss anyone here either.

See, we can all be happy!

Rick, I really hope you wake up tomorrow and realise that you've managed to shit on virtually all of your loyal fans in one act - you remember ... the folk who have bought your films in the past, and would have bought them in the future (especially as you've been working on converting them to the better DVD format). And then drop by and say 'hey, forget about it, let's carry on as before'.

Or not, in which case you'll be the smuggest, brokest, and most friendless bondage producer in history.

I really hadn't intended to post again, but after Ralphus's post, I think I should.

There are something that Ralphus is not telling you.

I simply wanted to walk away from the site after reading his remarks of the other night. I suggested an orderly change and to omit ZFX from the site and URL. He claimed the site could not continue without ZFX.

I decided to give it a reprieve. I did wonder why he seemed so unwilling to continue without me. To me it made no sense since I release few movies and ZFX is seldom discussed here. Something did not add up. I began to take a close look at the site.

To my surprise, the Moderator is in the affiliate program of at least one of my competitors (Natasha Flade) to send traffic to said competitor. He has stated he is not being paid, but I'm not sure why you would be in an affiliate program and not link directly if your not being paid. Its a conflict of interest with a commercial dimension and I really dont want my trademark used in this manner. The url of the site, unfortunately, contains zfx and I can no longer allow the use of this mark if there is money being paid to anyone involved.

This forum has ceased to be a ZFX discussion forum long ago. ZFX is rarely discussed. The url and tag line should have been changed long ago. It must now come to an end. It is true I have not released many shows in the last 5 years. But if you don't have ZFX to discuss, why keep this:

This forum is devoted to discussion of extreme bondage video, like those from ZFX Productions and a number of other fine producers, emphasizing the fantasy aspects of extreme bondage..

Its no longer true of the site, so its high time for a change anyway. It will be a positive change for the site.

Until the last few days, I sincerely thought Ralphus was a friend and a fan trying to keep the site alive. Sadly, I no longer believe that. Thus, I felt the need to act. The site will continue without me and all will be good again.

Anyway, every story has two sides, that's my side of it. I do appreciate the many great conversations we had here back in the day but the site has changed on every level and now its time for me to move on, and so I bid you farewell and best of luck with the new site.

Rick

PS: Thanks Guys, Good to Know I Am STILL LOVED!!!=)

Last week, Natasha Flade asked if I would like to link a small banner to her site. I'm not being paid for it, or at least haven't received an income, nor do I expect to. I did it as a favor for her since she's a friend of the site. I told her I didn't expect to see a dime; that we're not really her clientele but I liked her and wanted to promote her and figured why not? I've never gotten any income from running this site, so if anything came in, sure, who doesn't mind free money?

And I didn't feel the need to check with Rick Masters or get his approval. It's not your site, Rick; it never was. We promote ZFX but we're not exclusively ZFX and you should know that. The fact that "zfx" is part of our URL doesn't mean it's copyright infringement any more than any other site that mentions a registered trademark like Starbucks. Something like this, for instance: http://www.ihatestarbucks.com/. Starbucks can't sue a website for having their name in the URL. You even admitted on the phone "Well, maybe I can't sue you but I'll make your life miserable by drowning you in paperwork".

And you claim you had "no choice" but to file a complaint. Bullshit again. If you had a problem with Natasha's link, all you had to do was ask and I would have taken it out immediately. It doesn't matter to me; I've never been in this to make money. But guys, he was ranting and raving about how we were using his trademark to make money off the competition. It all started because he thought zee-ef-ex had posted an affiliate link the other day when he asked about the Hogtied girl. Here's what he wrote me: "Zee ef ex is a plant, no doubt about that, and they must have got to you too." Does that sound like an X-Files conspiracy theorist?

Zee-ef-ex was linking to a page on the Internet. Was he being paid to do it? I seriously doubt it. And even if he was, this site is not all about ZFX. It's about extreme bondage videos. When we do links to other sites besides ZFX, we are helping to spread the word about what's out there. We have a banner of the week, in case he didn't notice that, either. I do what I can to promote ZFX; they've had their own 24-hour banner in a prestigious spot on the site for a few years. It's not my fault that there's not a lot of new ZFX stuff out there to push.

And now Rick claims he thought I was a friend and fan trying to keep the site alive, but now he no longer believes that. Well, I've been a GREAT friend to him over the years, working undercover to help spot people who were ripping off his work online. I've been like his guardian angel, alerting him whenever I saw groups with Rapidshare links full of ZFX material. I've probably saved him thousands of dollars in lost revenue over the years. And as far as being a fan, I'm still a huge fan of his movies. This site was created for him to promote ZFX and to discuss his movies with other fans. I think I've done a pretty good job helping out someone who I thought was my friend, someone I admired.

John Galt wrote me and said "There's a saying that goes something like 'You should never meet your idols;' the reasoning being that they are rarely idol material in Real Life. While I didn't ever think Rick Masters was anything special, I did kind of respect his film making and hoped the man behind the kink was at least a decent fellow. Alas. You should never meet your idols."

It is exactly why. Your being paid to promote other people. Its a conflict. Sorry, but it must be.

Why not just move on?

Rick

I completely agree with and want to echo zelbo's well written post and sentiments. I also second mothbrad, it's unbelievable that RM could do this to all his loyal fans, and epecially to his number one supporter...Ralphus.

Ralphus: Don't let all this shit get you down, you're better than that. You've made 3 apologies for your comments and this still happens...it's just NOT RIGHT!!! Your dedication and efforts are highly appreciated and hope to see you come back shortly, it will be better than ever. Good luck to you.

A Canadian: Great review on Giga THP-13. I have a few great Giga and Attackers titles I would like review for you all but looks like we'll need to wait for a new site. I'm in Canada as well, could you please tell me, is Saveonav still shipping from within Canada, and any other site I can order from that you can recommend. Much thanks in advance.

Following is written after reading last two posts:

OK..I just read RM's post...and I just don't buy it. It does not matter that the Moderator is in an affilate program, he should be entitled to make some coin (if he even is at all) for all his time and efforts...and come-on...Natasha Flade is not a direct competitor, she offers an entirely different product within the bdsm genre (which is fantastic because of her beauty...and its not faked)...what a stinkin load of shit... It appears that RM has become very insecure about himself and is completely taking it out on poor Ralphus. Sorry RM, absolutely zero love here. Shame on you for dropping a longtime friend and supporter of your's. Your attitude SUCKS and for sure you will not get my support for any your products from here on in...there's plenty of great work to enjoy... May you find a way to dislodge whatever is causing the pain up your ass...or maybe not...

Wow...now I just read Ralphus' post. A great lesson shared here regarding "idols." No worries, Ralphus, it's a tough world out there and you're going to be far better off not wasting any more of your valuable time with bullshit like RM who does not deserve your friendship. BTW...stunning pic on the site today...

Cooling off period

Put away this chest thumping for a while

Is a lot of this maybe being caused by the economic times?

I have seen this group do a lot of talking over the years and it worked out pretty well. Now I'm just seeing a bunch of hatefull talking and not much discussion. Why don't we all stop take a deep breath and try to get along again.

Take it how you want to. BP

Ralphus, thanks for your hard work. Wherever you go, oh insane dwarf, I will follow.

That's the site where I picked up the Giga title. In fact, I sent them an email on Sunday complimenting them on how well they run their operation. I would recommend that site to anyone in Canada who enjoys JAV movies and wants to avoid Customs hassles.

Guys, I've tried to remain calm throughout all of this crap. And I think others have as well and injected a bit of humor into the discussion to lighten the mood. But no more. I'm also done with ZFX. Rick's betrayal of his fans, this board and especially Ralphus is unforgivable.

The problem should have been resolved after Ralphus' apology for the misunderstanding and his promise to be more careful with his comments. But Rick exacerbated the situation by boasting about how tough he was and launching some extremely lame personal attacks against the posters here. Then he got served royally by John Galt and Vince. Didn't see that coming, huh, Rick? What was that thing you said about opening your pie-hole?

Perhaps our initial thoughts that someone was impersonating Rick were correct. Maybe some Christian group that hates ZFX and the GIMP forum kidnapped Rick and got a retarded 8-year-old to post in his place in an effort to shut us down.

If that's not the case, Rick, your Internet tough guy act is dreadfully boring. Have you ever thought about re-entering the film-making business?

BTW, don't let the door hit that curling iron up your ass on the way out.

Ralphus: Sorry for the rant. I do hope things work out and I really hope Rick comes to his senses and returns. This would be a shitty way to end your friendship with him. But this board can survive without ZFX. If you have to create a new forum from scratch, how about an announcement on YouTied when it returns?

Whether you agree or disagree with Rick, I hope all you lurkers come out in support of this forum to make sure it continues.

As I've said elsewhere on this forum I remember enjoying looking at women tied and gagged from a very early age, way before I knew what sex was. The "facts of life" were explained to me at age 10 and as I grew up in my teen years I soon realised I was genuinely a sexual outsider. My friends at school would give me "girlie" magazines and tell me "Sophie" on page 16 was really hot, but all I could think was 'yes, she looks lovely, but how much better would she look if her hands were tied behind her back and she had a strip of duct tape over her mouth". No one else thought like me, boys or girls. I know because I tried to tell a couple of people, but they were disgusted with me. Consensual sex bored me to the extent that I fast-forwarded love/sex scenes in video movies. I developed a panty fetish, (I love that scene in "Trapped" when Charlize Theron slides the scalpel out of her tightly stretched panties), to go with my BDSM fetish and by the time I was 21 I was a sexual disaster! I knew what turned me on and I knew that I was totally alone with it.

My only release was to masturbate to the fantasies I created in my imagination or to the HOM magazines which were available back then. There was no way for me to be in a real relationship with a real woman - or so I thought. When I was 35 I got married to a woman who knew about my peculiar tastes and who thought she could cure me of them. We lasted 12 years then got divorced - she never "cured" me. My fantasy love of bondage and rape was so strong that not even the "love of a good woman" could change that. Now I'm back on my own again. Do I want to be "normal"? I once boldly declared that I would happily have my libido surgically removed if I could - it would bring me a great measure of peace and relief. But then I see a photgraph of a beautiful young woman bound and gagged with fear in her eyes and my cock gets hard and my heart beats quicker and my tongue goes dry and I think, "Oh yeah" and I feel the thrill.

But it's in my head - it can never be real. The down side of all this for me is that I will always be sexually unfulfilled. The only way for me to be truly fulfilled would be to really attack/rape a beautiful young woman, but I will never do that because it's wrong. So I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I am resigned to frustration. It must be that way...

It was just a really shitty way to go about it. I have lost a lot of respect for Rick. He should have just said so in a kinder fashion without all the flame.

Since this may be my last post, I want to say to all the GIMPers out there that it has been a blast. I hope that we meet again real soon.

I will close with a quote from Winston Churchill. "This is not the beginning, nor is it the end. It is, perhaps, the beginning of the end."

Stay well all and remember, the tenth anniversary is approaching. The next decade should be even better!

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Ironman: Hey, you know, it could be the end of the beginning (the formative years) and the beginning of the middle (when the site really hits its stride). In that case, we would still have the end of the middle, the beginning of the end, and of course the end of the end to look forward to. When you say it may be your last post, I hope you don't mean you wouldn't be back when the forum is resurrected, if and when it comes to that.

I was merely quoting the greatest Math Prof evahhhh, Mssr Tom Lehrer.

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To my surprise, the Moderator is in the affiliate program of at least one of my competitors (Natasha Flade) to send traffic to said competitor.

Get over yourself -- Flade is NOT a competitor of ZFX. That is, no-one is going to decide not to buy a decades-old film because their entire smut budget was spent on Ms Flade's site. If you were an active producer, she might **possibly** be a competitor, but it's doubtful. She is much more accurately a colleague (and one you might learn from).

This forum is devoted to discussion of extreme bondage video, like those from ZFX Productions and a number of other fine producers, emphasizing the fantasy aspects of extreme bondage..

That was a favor to you, bitch. He could easily have said "like those from Attackers". Instead, he chose to honor your work with the URL and the tag. But you seem incapable of taking anything the right way. F*** you and the dildo up your ass.

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I think that Rick realizes that time has passed him by. What with Natasha, Steve Powers, Sgt Major and Kink.com et al, ZFX is old and weak. There might be some demand for a few old flicks and some for new ones, but there's more excitement over the latest Slave Island than there is over whether SotB will be coming to DVD. And now he's insured even less interest.

Way to go, nimrod!

Well. I checked in today to make a bunch of responses to a load of folks - those wil have to wait until Ralphus gets some things sorted out. My email is well known so just give me a buzz and I'm back to being a Gimper again.

As for Rick Masters - we should have known from the start something more was at play than a simple phrase. It has been my experience that when a grown man throws a hissy fit over something so trivial, one of two things is generally in play - money or a chick - and now we know the motivation.

So I say this "Okay Right Reverend Rick Masters - once you have made your power play and taken over, jump into your pulpit and preach a sermon to your unannoited audience, whoever they may be, about what they can think, say and do. Your brand of censorship will go over as well then as it does now. What a pompous, braying ass you've become."

I find I have quite a collection of ZFX titles that are of no use any longer - for sale - cheap.

Ralphus - yeah, it's about time the gloves came off after finding out what he's all about - I say, good riddance.

Stay Well All until we put things back together.

do you like attackers asami ogawa lady panther 8?

I thought this was the best lady panther movie. Maybe I need to watch again to confirm if it was better than LP5. There was a bit of everything here ( fights, lesbian, rape, bondage). I thought the producers was trying to make this one different from the previous LP movies.

This's the first LP movie to use bondage in many scenes ( cuffs, ropes, straitjacket ) The sex scenes are slow but engrossing. The lesbian scenes between Asami and Roy are excellent.

The weird ending is haunting, almost too sad. I would have chosen a happy ending ( Asami escaped from the baddies and was free again )

This is a good month for attackers movies - many good looking, well known actresses and excellent titles.

I enjoyed ZFX when I first found it, and thought for a long time it was the best around. It satisfied EXACTLY what I wanted from a bondage video...

But what has ZFX done for the last few years? Answer - Practically nothing. Other than post old vids up on a VOD site, there's been virtually nothing...

And, let's face it, time's passed Rick by...passed LONG by...Once the internet caught fire, ZFX was doomed. Rick chose not to change with the times.

I don't pretend to know anything about his business interests, but if he's gonna start whining about what he has to deal with...well, guess what? You can always quit the business and get a real job. I'm sure you've made a good living over the past almost 20 years of ZFX. And you got to tie up and gag some beautiful women, ya lucky bastard.

Ralphus, make us a new site...extreme bondage only...there's no need to reference ZFX anymore because, quite frankly, it's long since been supplanted by other production houses.

Thanks for the memories, Rick.

Of course Ralphus, you and I could send him the video footage, and then he might actually have a movie to release.

What a maroon...

It's been my impression lately that whatever hole Rick Masters has found himself and ZFX Productions in is one that he dug himself. In other words, he has nobody to blame for his troubles, except himself. I've read all the posts on this board that were posted after Ralphus' announcement. Some people have said some really nasty things to and about Rick. I am not going to speculate as to whether or not Rick actually deserved those comments. Sorry, but I just don't want to go there.

Much like Sloth I too have a collection of ZFX titles. I don't know yet if I will keep these titles or acquire any more of ZFX's titles. That only time will tell.

Assuming I haven't mastered the art of time travel (and I haven't), I guess this requires full disclosure -- I knew things were blowing up between RM and Ralphus when I posted the review (that explains the "time pressures" I mentioned at the top of the review). Having started the review before the crap fully hit the fan, I decided last night to finish it quickly and post it.

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mirage: Thanks for the assessment of Lady Panther 8. Certainly, Asami Ogawa is beautiful -- more beautiful than I realized when you first mentioned this movie. And it sounds like this title delivers. I was originally concerned this might be another "Maria Ozawa in Attackers" situation but I'm glad to know I was wrong. I'm looking forward to seeing Lady Panther 8.

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I neglected to say last night that if Dreambook pulls the plug, I wish everyone well until we meet again -- either on the new GIMP site or on YouTied, whichever comes first. I'm glad to know there is enthusiastic support for keeping the site going.

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A Canadian: I'm glad you got the review up. Reading it made for a nice break in the melodrama.

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Mr?: I'm not sure this is the type of exciting dialog I enjoy, but to each his own. You make a good point about ugliness, but you might want to track back and take careful note of where the ugliness started, as well as how long it took it escalate to most forum members.

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And for all of you Toni Basil fans out there, here's a sing-along:

Oh Ricky, how you whine
You whine so hard it blows my mind
Hey Ricky
Hey Ricky

Oh Ricky, how you whine
You whine so hard it blows my mind
Hey Ricky
Hey Ricky

Oh Ricky, how you whine
You whine so hard it blows my mind
Hey Ricky

Hey Ricky
You've been posting all night
And that's a little long
You think you've got it right
But I think you've got it wrong
Why can't you leave the site
And leave us all alone, Ricky

When you call a spade a spade
You're actually the pot
Calling the kettle black
That's all you've got?
Why not go and leave us alone, Ricky

Oh, Ricky, what a pity
You don't understand
Your stuff is in decline,
And your posts are being panned
Oh, Ricky you're so petty
Can't you understand
We're guys like you, Ricky
Oh, what you do, Ricky, do, Ricky
Don't play the fool, Ricky

Hey, Ricky

Now you say you've got complaints
Who's ever gonna know
None of us are saints
I'm just a normal Joe
There's something that we like
And we say so, Ricky

So come on and let it go, that is if you can
Anyway you want to do it
Just do it like a man
Oh, cease Ricky, cease
Don't be a total tool, Ricky

Oh, Ricky, what a pity
You don't understand
Your stuff is in decline,
And your posts are being panned
Oh, Ricky you're so petty
Can't you understand
We're guys like you, Ricky
Oh, what you do, Ricky, do, Ricky
Don't play the fool, Ricky

Oh Ricky, how you whine
You whine so hard it blows my mind
Hey Ricky, hey Ricky
Oh Ricky, how you whine
You whine so hard it blows my mind
Hey Ricky, hey Ricky
Oh Ricky, how you whine
You whine so hard it blows my mind
Hey Ricky

Oh, Ricky, what a pity
You don't understand
Your stuff is in decline,
And your posts are being panned
Oh, Ricky you're so petty
Can't you understand
We're guys like you, Ricky
Oh, what you do, Ricky, do, Ricky
Don't play the fool, Ricky

Oh, Ricky, what a pity
You don't understand
Your stuff is in decline,
And your posts are being panned
Oh, Ricky you're so petty
Can't you understand
We're guys like you, Ricky
Oh, what you do, Ricky, do, Ricky
Don't play the fool, Ricky

I have read the forum most days for the last year and enjoyed doing so. That is down to Ralphus's efforts and I am sorry to say that ZFX has not been relevant in any of that time. Ralphus has done more for ZFX than Rick has in recent years.

Ralphus: I really hope you manage to keep the site going - it would be a huge loss. I can't think of anything I can offer to do to help - but I sure wish I could.

John Galt: I was just afraid that the plug would get pulled before I had a chance to find closure on this particular forum. I will be around wherever the group winds up. When it does go down, I will be watching my e-mail for new developements.

I'm leaving in a couple of weeks for my annual getaway in Mexico so I may be out of communication during the transition.

Stay well all!

And since there's probably not enough time to discuss and set up a new forum before that Dick Master guy shuts this place down, maybe we can discuss it further on Youtied when it comes back up or via e-mail. I've gotten stuff from this place before on the above email but in case it was lost I posted it again. I may just lurk 99% of the time, but I'd still like to be a part of anything new you may start up. I like to think that when I do contribute it's at least somewhat substantial.

John Galt - well played partner - you do realize at this moment Master Rick is alerting Toni Basil on possible copyright infringement violations do you not - I was rather thinking of the Weird Al version - "Ralphus, jew got some splaynin to do" - I just know I'll be up all night listening to that tune with visions of bound and gagged cheerleaders bouncing in the background.

Mr? - if I read your post correctly you seem to have it now - $$$$$$$ - not morality or ethics, not the entire christian and muslim world complaining, not the good name of a small time pornographer - just Master Rick wanting his cut in some form or fashion - or am I reading it wrong?

Have had a ball reading everyone's posts - think of it - Master Rick has us doing the unthinkable, defending Bill Zebub :)

By the way, I mentioned SuperJav in response to the question from lukas about companies that ship within Canada. But it's worth noting SuperJav ships out of the U.S., as well, from Bellingham, Washington.

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John Galt: The Toni Basil spoof was brilliant. I'm no fan of the original song but your take on it was hilarious.

Thanks, everyone!!!

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UKSteveOK: No need to apologize at all. I also thought Rick initially had a legitimate beef, albeit through a misunderstanding. Rick's real problem with this site is now clear: Millions of ZFX fans came here because "zfx" was in the URL, immediately clicked on Natasha Flade's banner and spent their life savings on her products instead of his. In the meantime, Ralphus and zee-ef-ex had become IT billionaires because of their links on this site, and Rick didn't get his cut.

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Mr? wrote: One of the most disturbing things that happens here as in many places in usa, is any disagreement is countered with downright ugliness.

I've been on sports and political forums and almost every thread ends up in name-calling and nastiness. And I'll admit I used to be a large part of that. But on this forum, people are civil. Sure, arguments occur, but even the political disputes are relatively tame. It's one of the reasons I enjoy this site so much.

If you look at what transpired here, Rick immediately brought the ugliness to a new level on this forum. As has been mentioned, any other poster would have seen his comments deleted. People remained civil but he continued attacking. There's only so much people will take, even from someone once admired and respected.

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I feel like I'm racing against the clock to post all of this. But then I thought about Ralphus' comment: The fact that "zfx" is part of our URL doesn't mean it's copyright infringement any more than any other site that mentions a registered trademark like Starbucks.

I've noticed that all the ZFX stuff is now gone, including the Lisa Kinkaid interviews and the pictures of ZFX performers, like Mad Dog and Travis Lee. But do we really have to shut down the site for a URL change? Hell, it doesn't even say "zfx." It says "zfxetc."

If this site does go down, and this is my last post here, I want to thank all of you (even you Rick) for the great discussions. I have faith in our dwarf moderator that the GIMP board will live on in one form or another. I'll see you all there.

FYI I'm getting ready to write a China Beach GIMP story, depicting how the show should've ended-with McMurphy and K.C. captured by the NVA and taken to North Vietnam, showing their POW experience until release in 1973. It would've been hard for ABC to condense 5 years of captivity into a two-hour series finale, but I'm going to try and do what ABC couldn't, or at least give it the old college try. If the site does go down, contact me at the above e-mail and I'll get you a finished copy. No timetable, but it will be done, RL permitting.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Ralphus, I'm sorry to read all the crap that's been going down. I've always said that you are a quality guy. It's a shame that Rick went ballistic on you. You don't deserve that.

Well, I figure you gotta be philosophical. It's like a marriage gone bad. The divorce hurts, but after some time has passed you find that you're better off.

Oh, and buy a clue, Rick. Just because a website has the letters "zfx" as part of its URL does not make it yours, nor does it violate your trademark. Do a search on Google for ZFX and you'll find literally thousands of URLs that contain those 3 letters. I don't see you threatening to sue them. Know why? Because your threat is groundless, you're all just full of empty bluster and rickcrap. I'm moving the site to shut you up and get rid of you, not because I'm legally bound to do so.

And the ironic thing is that everyone knows that even though he won't be posting to the new site, it's a certainty that he's going to continue to check in several times a day just to see what people are posting about him. He won't be able to resist. He has such an enormous ego that there's no way he'll be able to stay away. And isn't it also ironic that his arrogance has done what could not be done - regular posters, occasional posters and now even lurkers are coming out of the woodwork to take a shot at him.

He told me over the phone that he doesn't give a shit about his fans...I'm not making this up...and doesn't want to interact with them anyway. He says that ZFX is so popular that he doesn't need publicity. That might be true, but also I think it's great that so many people are now vowing to not buy his movies anymore. What about negative publicity, Rick? You think people are still going to support you if you shit all over them?

BTW, make no mistake about why Rick is trying to get this site closed down. It's all about income. The guy told me he's sold over 3 million movies and he doesn't have to worry about money, and yet if there was even the inkling that someone else might make a dollar or two on a site that he doesn't get a percentage of, then suddenly he gets all litigious and threatening and throwing his big brass balls around.

It doesn't matter that I've run a fan site for nearly a decade to showcase his work and also been nothing but a friend to him and helped protect him from bootleggers. This betrayal of a man that I once admired hurts me more than anything, but he's shown his true colors to his other former fans on this forum and we're beginning to see what he's all about. He's lost the respect of nearly everyone here, and bottom line is that he'll eventually find that he's lost their business, too.

I don't think nobility of cause applies in this instance.

In any event, he could have handled it much better. The imbroglio did not devolve into an ugly mess; that's essentially how he started it with his very first post. Insults are rarely persuasive when you are trying to make a serious point.

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Ralphus: That's good news about the site transition. I think one of the rules for the new site ought to be no more posts about Rick Masters, but I suspect that won't happen. I can dream, though.

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Matt: Hey, I might like to read that China Beach GIMP fanfic. I'll send an e-mail.

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Brutus: I do have a nasty habit of picking out songs that get stuck in your head, don't I? You would think I was a frustrated songwriter in a former life or something. I hadn't noticed the ZFX stuff was gone, since I usually zoom immediately down to the posts. Shows how much I paid attention to it in the first place, I guess. For me, the heart of this forum has always been the member posts.

Rick, you posted the following:

"zee ef ex: I have a question for you. Are you being paid to post links here? I just noticed your link is a rev share link. Care to explain? Rick"

Ha, I wish. I don't even know what a "rev share link" is (I assume that's industry insider talk). What I like to do when I surf for porn, if I see images of an attractive model I will search the web page for her name, and then Google that name and see if I can find more pictures of her.

The web site that I posted a link to, the reason I asked the question is because that site was silent as to the model's name. (Which I find kind of bizarre, actually - why wouldn't they at least name her. Some sights go on and on with great detail, i.e. "This is So-and-so. When she arrived for her shoot she had just come from bla bla bla..." It's really weird when a web page won't even mention the girl's name). So, I didn't recognize her, so I thought I'd ask here.

When some of you pointed out her name is Calico (a name I don't remember seeing before) I Googled her and realized, wow, she was an actress I had seen lots of clips and movies of in the past. But I had never paid her much attention to her in the past because I never thought she was that attractive, until this (presumably more recent) web page came along, where for the first time she looked good to me.

It's amazing to me how some models in the business improve their appearance over time. ZFX's Chandra was like that. In her first few films, she looked so-so. Later, she turned into a fox. Comparing the different films, if you didn't look closely at first glance you'd think Chandra-early and Chandra-later were two different people.

Calico seems like that to me, too. On that page I linked, she doesn't even look like the girl I now remember from earlier galleries. She seems to have improved her physical appearance a lot.

Rick, I guess the next questions I'd ask you would be: Why the hostility, when you ask me "Care to explain?" Why the rush to judgment and paranoia? What the heck is going so wrong in your life right now that it seems like you are suddenly lashing out at people? etc.

But since there seems to be a bunch of other bad blood stewing around these parts, I won't even press it. I explained because I thought it was a polite thing to do, despite your rudeness to me.

PS, since on a quick glance through some of the postings I have yet to read seem to be talking about copyright allegations, I think I'll change my handle next time I post. From now on if I post again, I will probably use some variation on:

Liquor in the front, poker in the rear

Whatever

Rick, paranoid much? Go back and re-read the glowing review I wrote of your movie, "The Apartment." It was, as I said, one of the best films of any kind I have ever seen. (It still is - it's a great movie). How much didja pay me to write that? Hey, come to think of it, I never did get your check. Must have gotten lost in the mail huh? Go take a look at all the other positive postings I wrote about your movies.

Like everyone here, I'm here because people are usually civil and intelligent, and we share the camaraderie of educating each other. I came here in the first place as a ZFX fan. (Still am). I stayed here for the good discussions. The only reason the discussions dwindled away from ZFX over the years is because ZFX dwindled away. But I admit, for years and years and years while lurking or posting always in the back of my mind was the hope that you would fulfill your promises and once finished transferring old films to DVD you would start making new films again.

Not only have you, as one poster said, made us sympathetic to Bill Zebub, but in retrospect years later you now have made Damien look good. At the time when he used to harangue you for not publishing movies on the dates you said you would I thought, hey, whoa, this guy Damien's being harsh. But maybe he saw something the rest of us missed.

So, wow. You accuse me of being a "plant"? (Yep. I'm marijuana, I admit it). Okay, I'm not going to insult you like others have done. I will say one thing only. Please, take a step back and re-think your actions. Even a cursory look by you at all my postings over the years, all those times I wrote favorably about ZFX films when I didn't need to and nobody was paying me, and you know for a fact nobody was paying me, should lead any reasonable person to think, yanno, maybe I'm wrong to accuse him of that. Maybe, since I didn't pay him, it really is possible for a poster here to write things out of love for the art he sees in what he writes about, instead of writing those things for money.

YOU didn't pay me, Rick. Knowing that, you'll know that nobody else did. And your heart will grow three times its size, if you let it.

The reasoning portion of your mind has been overtaken by ... something else. Whatever it is, I'm done with it, it's not my problem.

On to better things. Sardu, I had never made a correlation between clit size and sexual prowess. I'll try to be more observant of this in the future.

Jake, I, too, can understand your sexual outsider feelings. Not as to GIMP material, but in two other ways. First, all my life my sexual desire has hit me with a ton of bricks. I feel it so strongly it is physically painful. Only once have I ever run into another guy who said he felt the same way. Any time I ever mentioned this to other male friends, they always went "huh?" and it was clear they are not wired that way. (Maybe I just have a big clit, hmmm? :-)

But seriously, I walk down the street and see a physically stunning girl, I am just about bowled over. There's no need for action involved -- it's not like a rape thing -- it's more of the tiny voice in me and all men that says "Mommy?" has suddenly escalated to super-sized levels. I dunno why (I have guesses) but yeh, this makes me feel different (and affects my life, e.g. loving porn so much).

The other thing is just growing older. Unless you're a billionaire copyright-hogging rev sharer like Ralphus (joking), all men are eventually going to feel like outsiders when it comes to young women. And this makes that first outsider phenomenon even more poignant for me, in the sense that I am most attracted to sexually prime women (say, 18 to 25) and not so much to older women. Every day older I get, those young women are another day out of reach.

So, yeh, we all feel it, just in different ways. See you dudes and dudettes on the newer, improved site! I'm looking forward to hearing more about your burning fantasies, Ralphus. (They baffle me, but hey, there is not one single person on this planet who is not weird. Variety is the spice of strife (on this board anyway, it seems)

Ralphus, one final request before I go? Please use the Ralphus handle at least for a little while on the next site so if I don't e-mail you, and the name changes drastically from zfxetc to something way different, I can still find you on the search engines, which is how I found this site in the first place, when I was searching, UNPAID, for information on a company I'd heard of but hadn't yet bought their movies called Z ... ummm ... what the fuck was it called again? Toldja I'm getting old. I can't remember the name of paranoid fuckwad unimportant things any more.

Liquor in the front, poker in the rear (the artist formerly known as zee etc.)

I don't know about anyone else, but I found this place first while one day Googling to see if anyone had revived the WSIM list, then learned about ZFX titles afterwards. It was the review of SotB4 posted HERE that made me buy the movie to begin with, posted by Ralphus no less. I'm thinking I'm probably not the only one who based their decision to buy a zfx movie off the info here either.

Having seen a bad split from one board to a new one, the best thing we can do is to ignore him, and this site, once the new one goes up.

I'm not normally in favor of censorship, but I don't see any reason to post his comments on the new board. He can be a producer non gratia, as far as I'm concerned.

I really think everyone should take a time out. I never went nuts over some of the things rated here. I have never had the time to view a movie for even 30 minutes so I am a lover of the picture.

The one thing I did like of this site was you had real life site owners and the people that were getting tied up that would give a little insite to the world and would maybe listen to what the fans would like or expect.

Maybe I'm missing it but it seems a few/most/all are being very silent. Did you ever think that maybe it is because it looks like we have turned on one like rabbid dogs? People you are starting to turn to mob mentality with the hate that I am seeing.

The Amish have a policy of "Shunning" but they don't attack people. I don't think we should get to the point of attacking people we now dislike we can "shun" them but not attack. You just might be scaring away some of the other movers and shackers that used to contribute to this site.

Why do you have to start a new group? You mean we can't just drop the zfx from the address? You would think it is as easy as changing a groups name and Email address on Y@hoo or G@@gle.

I don't know about anyone else, but I found this place first while one day Googling to see if anyone had revived the WSIM list, then learned about ZFX titles afterwards. It was the review of SotB4 posted HERE that made me buy the movie to begin with, posted by Ralphus no less. I'm thinking I'm probably not the only one who based their decision to buy a zfx movie off the info here either.

Dr. Yuya: I followed the exact same path you did. I was a longtime fan of Oslo's WSIM site and that led me here. And I purchased SOTB4 on the strength of the reviews I found on this board. I may have come across ZFX anyway, but I wouldn't have bought anything without an endorsement from a like-minded person.

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jhlipton: Like you, I am also not in favor of censorship. I think the best solution would be a concerted effort to ignore any troll-like posts by all concerned. Which is actually the best way to deal with any troll posting on any forum, board, or blog. I also know that is extremely hard to do.

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Liquor in the front, poker in the rear: Your new moniker is going to take some getting used to. But you know, the irony of a forum member called "zee-ef-ex" being accused of being a shill for someone else by the maker of ZFX movies is incredibly laughable, seeing as how you were essentially a plug for ZFX every time you posted. Oh well.

We have just released my latest CD, "Toni Basil Sings a Medley of Her Big Hit" available at the above url for the low price of $14.99 plus shipping and handling.

Just wanted you guys to know I appreciate your support and I don't expect a percentage from your forum for work I didn't do.

Sincerely, Toni

As someone who has not ever once in 59 years confided in anyone, including my wife, my attraction to GIMP, I have thoroughly enjoyed all (or Mostly all) that is offered by the website. But most of all I have been impressed by the intelligence and erudition of those who contribute to the blog. I hear that there are tests that suggest that young people who are into heavy metal are of above-average intelligence. I would venture that that is true also of GIMPers who post here, although I don't look forward to any university publishing results of THAT study any time soon!

As for Rick, acknowledging that I have certainly bellied up to the ZFX buffet more than once over the years, if I had to sum up the product in a few words it would have to be: "great concepts poorly executed" (except for Forced Entry). It is said about Dick Cheney (follow me on this) by former associates that they on longer recognize him compared to the years when he was at the top of his game.. that he has become.. well... demented. As someone who didn't even like him much at the top of his game, I wish now he would just go the fuck away. So I agree with the poster who asks that we leave all mention of Rick to the last posters on this website and treat him sort of like the Russkies treated Lenin when they removed all pictures of him and references to him in books. Perhaps Rick and Dick can get together and... say... go duck hunting.

And while I think the term "rabid" is a bit extreme in reference to recent posts, I agree that there is quite a bit of acrimony. However, instead of a pack of rabid dogs, I think a better picture would be an angry mob surrounding a rabid dog. To switch metaphors, the other cheek was turned a couple of times, but it kept getting slapped. I would like the unpleasantness to go away as well, but to understand where we are, you need to understand how we got here.

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Toni Basil: Thanks. I'm glad you took it in the spirit in which it was intended and I hope the publicity helps in some small way. I think it was Steve Power who said "even bad publicity is good."

Hey, wait a minute! Ralphus and guys, I think we've been played!

DHT - like John Galt I must respectfully disagree - before retirement my career required an ability to quickly read people's motives and intentions - lack thereof could be fatal - when I read Rick's initial post there was no flabbergasted, jaw dropping moment - sitting back I said to myself "something is missing here, there's something he's not telling us" - must be losing my edge as I didn't see it - the moment Rick accused Liquor of being a paid shill for another site, I kicked myself in the rump - that's what was missing, the money angle - yep, the simple answer is usually the correct one - while I admire your loyalty in defending Rick, I think such loyalty is misplaced in this instance.

The other day I made the comment that Rick had become a pompous, braying ass - on further review I think I was wrong - he has probably always been that way and has finally been unmasked - I stand corrected.

Ralphus - isn't it a pity that betrayal always seems to come from where you least expect it.

Matt - good luck on your project.

John Galt - whew, good to see Toni is such a stand up chick - I know I'll be ordering her hit medley.

Stay Well All

This has become very stupid.

You sound like jilted school girls.

Ralphus: You strike me as an obsessive fan who has attached himself like a sucker fish to ZFX. Rick wants to scrape you off and now your crying like a bitch. You seem goofy.

With fans like these, who needs enemies?!?!

In light of the recent activity on this board I think it would be a good idea to change the subject a bit and inject what I hope is a little levity. I posted this recently on Craig's List and since some of the material fits our subject I thought some of you might get a laugh out of it. For what its worth, enjoy!

Cooking Rachael Ray (My Kitchen)

The first step in the preparation of this tasty dish is to strip Rachael Ray naked and wash her carefully in your sink. Use plenty of warm soapy water for this operation. Take your turkey baster and filling it with the soapy water make sure to clean out all body cavities thoroughly. When you are sure she is squeaky clean rinse her repeatedly with ice cold water. Her skin will turn all goose pimples and her nipples will get hard. This is entirely normal.

Next, place Rachael Ray on a large cookie sheet, making sure to lightly grease the sheet first with EVOO. Dredge her nice clean body with a light coating of flour. This should insure a nice brown crust. A large vibrator should be well lubed with EVOO and shoved into Rachael Ray's vagina. Set the vibrator on high to insure that Rachael's juices keep flowing, making her into a self basting TV foodie. Rachael Ray should then be placed on her stomach. Take some thick cooking twine and soak it in water. Stretch the twine taut and use it to tie Rachael's wrists, elbows, knees, and ankles. Next, tie her big toes together with more twine and then pull her legs back into a tight hogtie, tying her toes to her wrists. The wet twine will dry out and shrink during the cooking process, making your nice hogtie even tighter. Rachael Ray will probably squeal and moan during this process. This is entirely normal.

In order to keep your kitchen quiet, take a large apple and stuff it into Rachael Ray's mouth. She will probably try to dissuade you by offering to give you multiple blow jobs for $40 a day. Ignore her as this is entirely normal.

Baste her now squirming body very well with plenty of EVOO. Her moaning will become louder and her body will throb in an even rhythm as the vibrator works on her.

Place her in a preheated 375 degree oven for thirty minutes, or until her screams start to subside. DO NOT OVERCOOK!

You will know Rachael Ray is done when the apple in her mouth has gone soft. Remove the apple and put your erect penis in her mouth, lubing it well with EVOO, and check for an internal temperature of 100 degrees. Rachael will probably suck greedily on your turgid member as she will be very thirsty after her time in the oven. You will, in all likelihood explode in a furious orgasm into her mouth, thus completing the internal basting process. This is entirely normal.

Place Rachael Ray on a large platter. Put a fresh apple in her mouth, both for garnish and to keep your dining room quiet. Rachael Ray is best served with fava beans and a nice Chianti. Enjoy! YUM-MO!

Location: My Kitchen

Glatman: Does your dish go best with red wine or white?

RALPHUS: Thanks for the great pic! Got anymore?

Finally, Rick who?

I have honestly not been following all of the Rick Masters/ Gimp words of war. The GIMP Site is a darn good forum for us adults and what we like to watch.

There are enough real fights to fight and in the last 8 years we sure had a lot of anti-Gimpers.

Alan

Canadian, thanks for the Giga review, I'll try to get some more up in a couple of weeks. In the meanwhile I'm ordering THP 13 tonight. Might as well see what kind of service SuperJav can provide. Now if only we can get someone to carry some Zen movies at a reasonable price.

No doubt, Rick has really snapped and it's clear the Natasha Flade banner was the cause of his rage. But I don't know if I should be angry at Rick or worried about him.

I mean, I can't understand why he would be so upset, particularly if he's as wealthy as he claims to be. And if the wealth story isn't true and he's upset because he's struggling, how could he think it would help his situation to piss off his fans?

His recent behavior hasn't made any sense to me.

Ralphus Wrote:

He told me over the phone that he doesn't give a shit about his fans...I'm not making this up...and doesn't want to interact with them anyway. He says that ZFX is so popular that he doesn't need publicity. That might be true, but also I think it's great that so many people are now vowing to not buy his movies anymore. What about negative publicity, Rick? You think people are still going to support you if you shit all over them?

BTW, make no mistake about why Rick is trying to get this site closed down. It's all about income. The guy told me he's sold over 3 million movies and he doesn't have to worry about money, and yet if there was even the inkling that someone else might make a dollar or two on a site that he doesn't get a percentage of, then suddenly he gets all litigious and threatening and throwing his big brass balls around.

It doesn't matter that I've run a fan site for nearly a decade to showcase his work and also been nothing but a friend to him and helped protect him from bootleggers. This betrayal of a man that I once admired hurts me more than anything, but he's shown his true colors to his other former fans on this forum and we're beginning to see what he's all about. He's lost the respect of nearly everyone here, and bottom line is that he'll eventually find that he's lost their business, too.

Why am I not surprised...? It's beginning to feel like that Rick really wants to alienate his fans. Earlier I stated that I don't know if I'll keep my collection of ZFX titles or get rid of them. Now thanks to that the comments of that POMPOUS ASS Rick, I am starting to seriously consider discarding all of them. Way to go Rick, you stuffed shirt!

I don't want to add to any of the negative comments that have been thrown around, so all I'll say is this in regards to where I stand on everything that has gone down... This is a tragic ending to what's been a great relationship. I'm 100% positive that Ralphus has been nothing but a devoted fan of ZFX for his entire history on this site, both as a poster, and as its enthusiastic moderator, and I'll follow this site where ever it goes or what ever it's called.

HOWIE

HOWIE

I haven't been here for a while. Now I wish I hadn't even come. I used to post all the time but I kind of lost interest a while back.

In answer to the poll: Sounds like a bunch of fake outrage. Rick said he was leaving and asked to take ZFX off the site. So what? Seems like a business move. I said a while ago the site was being taken over by banners and sellers. Nobody listened. It's become very commercial.

I came here through a link on ZFX's site like 8 years ago. Rick has spent more time here with us than anyone. Now Rick is the devil. Whatever.

I guess I'm not really the "me too" type. I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be mad? I'm hoping for new ZFX soon! My opinion is the same. I'm looking forward to it=) Is that enough outrage? Hold on I'm working it up...DAMMIT! I dont jerk off to outrage, only good porn will do, violent and nasty. ZFX does it better than ANYONE! If you want outrage, dont get me started on WAITING 3+ YEARS for it.

I saw Ricks post last month, I stopped by hoping to get the scoop. Guess thats not going to happen now....

Ralphus: Sounds like you have a personal beef with ZFX. Not my problem dude, sorry. Good luck with it.

Howie: That is a photo chop shot...its looks like the girls pasted in. Plus everyone knows Japanese girls are indestructible! Bonzai!

Sorry to all involved, but from the looks of it, it might be for the best. This is really dreadful. Adios!

In answer to the poll: Sounds like a bunch of fake outrage. Rick said he was leaving and asked to take ZFX off the site. So what?

Fake outrage? No. Number one, Rick didn't ask to take ZFX off the site, he demanded it. And frankly, he didn't even wait for an answer. When I came back from work, what was waiting for me in my mailbox was an e-mail from him telling me he had filed a complaint with Dreambook and he expected the site would be gone by that evening. And he also threatened me. Don't give me a reason to sue you, he said. "I will be talking to the lawyer today, I have documented all the paid links on the site and you may have to be deposed to get to the bottom of this. This is a business. This has gone on far too long."

Apparently, Rick is under the misguided notion that a fan site that talked about ZFX actually was his property and he could control it. If he wanted the pictures and the banner removed, fine, they are his copyrighted property and they were removed when he requested it. But the URL of the site? Sorry, man, you're out of line. Just because The Gimp used "zfxetc" as part of the URL when he opened it in 1999 doesn't make it copyright infringement. Like I stated before, there's thousands of sites that include those 3 letters and he couldn't force those off the Internet, either. That's the most likely reason why Dreambook didn't shut down this board like he wanted, because they knew his argument had no merit.

But it didn't stop him for talking tough to me on the phone, though. "If you leave ZFX in the URL, I'll sue you." When I told him he couldn't, he said " Then I'll make your life miserable by drowning you in paperwork". Real nice, huh?

Is it a personal beef with Rick? Well, seeing as I run the forum and Rick went out of his way in his attempt to remove it, yeah, it's personal. We'd had a friendly relationship for several years before he betrayed me, although in his mind, it was justified because he feels I attempted to profit off his name. It all goes down to who owns the site. And I contend that this is no more Rick Masters' site than it belongs to Dan Hawke, Steve Powers, Jeff Gord or any other producer out there. Rick didn't run it, he didn't pay for it, the site didn't have his name, he only took advantage of the free publicity that the site generated. And when he decided he was done with it, he basically said "fuck you" to me and to all the people here by attempting to have it destroyed. And before that, he said several nasty, hurtful things to many of our regular posters who didn't like his attitude.

Is it personal? Ask the hundreds of people here what they think of him now. Trust me, it's not just me.

...how could he think it would help his situation to piss off his fans?

Well, I can't say that I understand this behavior, but I've seen it many times. My boss acts like that...lashing out at me and my co-workers whenever something goes wrong - whether the problem is personal or financial (usually both). And the employees are the ones in the best position to help. Doesn't make sense. But somehow, in the person's mind, it becomes a rationalization for his belief that basically, the world sucks and everyone is against me. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's a shame.

Ralphus - I see perhaps by manana - good news and looking forward to it - wish there was I service I could perform for the forum in the move but I'd have to get my cut :-)

Glatman - some time back I posed a Rachael Ray scenario - nowhere near as intricate or amusing as yours - nicely done.

A Canadian - you know, with regards to recent behavior I agree, it makes no sense to me either - something like trying to rationalize the irrational - an effort in futility.

Alan - you're right, there are plenty of battles to fight - how many times have we had the government/religion censorship debate - I think we were taken aback by discovering Rick Masters is the anti-Gimper and far more devious in his methods than the religious right would be - just something to ponder.

Satana - you wrote "with fans like these who needs enemies" - by my count the Right Reverend Rick has few fans left here anymore and all because of his own inflated self image - I wonder if there is a mirror big enough for him.

Scion, The - allow me to assure it is not just Ralphus - if this were a high school baseball game the mercy rule would have been invoked - Rick did not ask, he dictated that he would remake this forum in his image - to that end he managed to insult, humiliate, threaten and trash this forum, its moderator and every participant - the very folks who defended, promoted and encouraged his work - I don't know what Jesus would do but I simply tired of turning the other cheek to accommodate his every whim - there is no fake outrage here, it is real - Rick has always had the option of exercising his free will and disassociating himself from this forum - despite all the red herrings he tossed out he had only one agenda from the start - this forum should be his exclusive promo property - I think if you would go back and follow the progression of Rick's posts you would see that - but as you stated, you lost interest and haven't been around in awhile, have you?

Vaya con dios amigos

Oh, I absolutely believe his claims. In fact, I have an advanced copy of the U.S. Treasury Board's economic assessment report. Here's the gist:

The credit crunch has continued in the first quarter of 2009, leading to unprecedented numbers of layoffs and a freeze on hiring. The dire labor situation has caused consumer spending to decline by 10 percent on a seasonally adjusted basis. Sales of automobiles, household appliances and even perishable goods have shown declines not seen since the 1920s.

One bright spot in what is expected to become a deflationary phase is that sales remain brisk of old ZFX videos. Tax revenues from the "Alien Probe" and "Video Pirates" series registered their eighth consecutive year of double-digit growth. Exports of "South of the Border" movies remain the lone pillar propping up the economy.

The ZFX business model of:

1. Do not release any new products for years;

2. Promise consumers new products each year and fail to realize said promises;

3. Offend, insult and threaten your strongest supporters;

4. Act paranoid and accuse customers of money-making schemes;

5. Demand the removal of your company from free advertising and praise

has proved resilient in the toughest of times. The ZFX business model should be promoted in conjunction with any additional economic stimulus package issued this fiscal year.

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Seriously, has anyone thought that Rick, perhaps, may be officially closing down ZFX and wants to go out with a frustrated bang? Just a thought. Nothing else has explained his nonsensical behavior.

Anyhow, I believe this will be my last post on the matter. I certainly hope this episode doesn't have us turning on each other. And in a way, I hope Rick posts on the new forum, starting with the words: "I'm sorry guys. Please let me explain what really happened ..."

By the way, if you knew ANYTHING, you would know that a New Yorker of Sicilian descent like Rachael Ray would be best served specifically with a Sangiovese Chianti. And fava beans are overrated. I just tossed that in to creep out Clarice. Honestly, how anyone could be gullible enough to think you weenies were serious about doing any of this stuff for real is beyond me.

Common Name: Rick Masters
Scientific Name: Brainusless Retarded-jerkus

Known Habitat:
Slums, back alley's, seedy strip joints, etc.

Typical Behavior:
This species is known for it's habit of not producing anything useful for years, making promises that are never kept, insulting its fans, and just plain being a pompous ass. The Rick Masters also has a tendency to accuse other species of plotting money-making schemes, and likes to step on all those who have been it's friends and supporters. It should also be noted that the Rick Masters really enjoys grinding into the ground those who are supposed to be its friends and fans.

Current Population Status:
EXTREMELY ENDANGERED, ON THE VIRGE OF EXTINCTION... Only one specimen of the Rick Masters is known to live today and it is elderly and on the virge of death. It is a lone male and it can't cross breed with members of other species due to species specific incompatibility problems. In short only a male and a female Rick Masters can successfully reproduce a viable Rick Masters offspring. There have been many attempts to impregnate a female of another species with sperm harvested from the last known Rick Masters, but all have failed. This species is expected to go extinct in about six months or possibly less.

It's time for some hard truths to be told. This is not easy, but it's better to admit fault and be truthful than to continue the wrong path.

I am fighting some strong personal demons. I am lashing out. Obviously, some of you have been there and can see what's happening. I talked to a trusted friend about this. He said "YOU ARE WRONG, Ralphus has done nothing but help you, leave this guy alone, he's not hurting anyone, stop being an ASSHOLE." I knew he was right, but my pride prevented me from admitting it. I have done a lot of soul searching these last few days.

This should have been handled differently, by ME. Sometimes things said here disturb me. But I also know in my heart that at the end of the day it is better to spill out here than IRL. It is not in my purview to control the world. To think differently is foolish at best. I have NO right to stand in judgment of Ralphus (or anyone else).

Ralphus has always been gracious to me and immediately responded thoughtfully to my stupid outburst. He probably should have told me to fuck off. I deserved it. Bill was not wrong and what I said to him was over the top. My apologies Bill. I happen to think you're a fine filmmaker.

What I said publicly was overly harsh and should never have been said at all. Sometimes I get tired of being needled and I just snapped. Again, I was wrong.

I am not going to shut down the site or try to. I did not intend to hurt Ralphus, though obviously I have and probably many others. For this I am sorry. This is all I can do at this point. IF the site comes down, just re up it and all should be OK.

The truth is, I have been successful, but I am in the twilight of my career. I am tired. The world is changing and I have not been very effective at adapting. I have been contained by the powers that be. I cant operate freely like most companies because of the content I produce. I am jealous of them. I have been out here for a long time and am widely hated. I am a lightning rod. It has been difficult to operate and survive these last years. My financial situation is not great, but it could be worse. I am a fortunate man. Many are out of work and losing their homes.

I felt betrayed by Ralphus concerning the affiliate stuff, but that was me, not him. We are all trying to survive. I know he has given more than he will ever likely get back. I know he has done it for love not money.

Seeing the comments of the last few days have both hurt me and touched me in ways I didn't think possible. Despite my tough talk, I am more like a bowl of jello than concrete.

Ralphus, I know I hurt you bro, all I can do is try to help if I can. I'm not sure where your at, maybe you'll hate me forever. I hope someday you will forgive. I never meant to disappoint you, but I know that I have. I know you have been in my corner for a long time. I thank you for that. All I can do now is say I am sorry.

Virtually everything that has been said in the last few days is true. It's been a humbling experience.

Pompous ass-check,

Stuffed shirt-check,

Egomaniacal pecker head-check

But there is one thing that is not true....I don't hate the fans, I love you and I do this to a large degree...for you. I also do it for me. I think in the end we are pretty much the same. We want to see good movies in this genre. I will try to continue to do that as long as I can.

My actions have been indefensible. I expect no quarter, I don't deserve it, but maybe some understanding. I guess I couldn't let it end this way without some explanation. I wish you all well.

Rick

I hope we can all get past this and move on as fellow friendly pervs. If there's still some anger brewing, I suggest we direct it at someone who really deserves it--BondageDave.

It feels like we've been on a trip to Bizarro world, and now we're coming back to earth.

At this point, Rick and Ralphus should probably have a heart to heart conversation, possibly on the phone, and then we'll see. I'm hoping we have the old Rick back, and Bizarro Rick will be a thing of the past. Tho, from a workload perspective, being Ralphus' webstuff helper, I wish this had happened yesterday!

All I can say is a hope you all can sleep with yourselves at night.

While it would be possible for this site to survive without you, it is much better with you, and I would want you to continue to feel welcome here.

As others have said, I wish you the best as you grapple with your demons and there is probably more understanding than you may imagine. I support the calls to move on and deal with the real enemy (Bondage Dave).

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Rick: Welcome back. That mea culpa took some guts. In stark contrast to the S&P 500 and NYSE, your personal integrity stock just skyrocketed in my view. Whatever you're going through, I wish you the best dealing with it.

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BP: I think it is indicative of the class and maturity of the forum members (and Rick) that, despite some, umm, spirited back-and-forth, everyone appears to be relieved this ended without further recrimination and now it is all but in the past. (Although we haven't heard from Ralphus yet, and it most certainly hit him the hardest.) Personally, I'm happy it is over and I'll be sleeping like a baby.

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Well as most of you know, I like BDSM membership sites such as Sgt Major's Backdoor Bondage, Dan Hawke's Best Bound, Steve Power's Powershotz, as well as the plethora of sites from Kink.com, Twisted Factory, and Dungeon Corp. It turns out Dungeon Corp is offering a special limited time deal on a "Dungeon Corp Pass" that gives you access to all five sites (Cumbots, SocietySM, FuckingDungeon, PerfectSlave, and one I didn't realize they had, StrictRestraint) for $29.95 for 30 days or $54.95 for 90 days. That is a damn good value, if you like the content.

For anyone who might not know, the Dungeon Corp sites are all absolutely consensual. They feature varying degrees of strict bondage, bondage and discipline, and bondage sex, as well as machine sex, and combinations of all of the above. (They do gags as well.) I haven't had a Dungeon Corp membership in over 6 months, but unless something has changed, there were very occasional (I hesitate to use the word rare) instances where they play out a forced bondage or forced sex scenario. The discipline is probably medium-harsh, with no disfiguring activities (such as piercings or impact play that draws blood). The models are almost always smoking hot. You don't have to join to visit each site and click the "Models" (or "Slaves" in one instance, I think) link to see exactly who they have on each site. And something that makes this kind of cool is that each of the five sites updates once a week on a different day, so it's a new update each weekday.

I would have been joining two or three of these sites sometime over the next 12 months anyway (for one month each), so this deal is a no-brainer for me. If you think you might be interested, check out the Join Page.

Not a paid shill. I just think this is a great value for sampling five web sites for the price of one. Looks like I'll have to wait to check out Natasha Flade for another month. Sorry, Natasha and Isaac. One of the consequences of finding this forum is that suddenly I have so many more web site choices than I ever knew existed before. So much GIMP, so little time (and money).

In light of Rick's apology and the fact that it seems like most posters are willing to accept the apology. Also in light of the fact that his apology was posted immediately after my "species bio" of Rick, I am starting to feel like I am the Pompous Ass around here.

Rick, I think I owe you an apology for that bio.

It was hard for me initially to understand Rick's recent outbursts, because it didn't seem like him at all. He did confide in me later that his original angry posting to the board happened on the exact day that Max Hardcore began serving his 4-year prison sentence. What happened to Max is a tragedy...and it's a tragedy that could have just as easily happened to Rick. They don't produce the same material, but they are both a lot more extreme than most adult stuff out there. It so happened that the prosecutors went after Max, but make no mistake that Rick is always a target, too.

I'm sure that's at least part of what he's referring to when he mentions personal demons. It's not easy being Rick Masters, an outsider who doesn't blend in with the rest of the adult industry, or even the bondage industry, because his content is perceived to be too harsh. He told me he's gotten death threats, that he can't park his car outside his home. I wouldn't want to live my life that way. Try spending a week in his shoes and then try to imagine having to deal with that every day for the rest of your life.

Rick has been dodging bullets for 20 years and the stress of dealing with it finally made him lash out. When he saw something on a forum that he is associated with that might imply in someone's eyes that he promoted real life violence, he publicly voiced his opposition to it. As he told me on the phone, to say nothing would imply that he condoned it by his silence. So it was more a way of covering his ass than anything else, but he really was bothered by what he read. That wasn't fake.

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Rick: After everything that's happened on the forum the past few days, I know it's gotta be tough to have this place go from a ZFX fan site to a ZFX bashing site. The fact that a huge majority of the posters seemed to be taking my side of the issue was of small consolation to me. A lot of the anti-Rick postings were clever and funny and I hate to admit I enjoyed seeing you getting trashed, but it was because I was hurt and I was angry and it somehow seemed justified after what had happened. I certainly joined in the bashing, but deep inside, it wasn't making me feel better. I was still crying on the inside over what had happened. The anger was just my way of dealing with it.

So yeah, it hurt a lot. Personally for me because I greatly admire you as a filmmaker and like I told you on the phone, this whole site was for you. Everytime I posted, I wondered if you would read it and what you think about what I wrote. I wanted to do good...for you. I know that sounds gay, but it's true. The prospect of running with a site without ZFX was unfathomable to me.

They say that sometimes an apology isn't good enough, that mere words can't fix things. Sometimes the damage is too great and merely saying you're sorry isn't sufficient enough to fix the harmlful things that have been said. And to that I say..bullshit :) I am certain that you are sincere in your apology, and I'm more than glad to accept it. All's forgiven, bro. I'm glad to have you back, and I'm sorry...really, really sorry...that all this happened. But hey, it did make the forum damned interesting to read, didn't it? And our hits skyrocketed. So it wasn't really all totally bad :)

Now...let's talk specifics. You're saying we don't have to move, right? Because we were a day away from doing so; all we had to do was announce the link and we had a new site ready to step into. I didn't want to go, because it would have been a pain to notify the thousands of readers of the new URL. I'm going to assume that "zfxetc" as part of our website URL is okay then.

Secondly, I'd really like to keep the ZFX stills for the Rape Database, the Notable Guests, and the Lisa Kinkaid Interviews section. If you want your banner back, say the word. And if you want me to ditch Natasha's banner link, I don't mind. Obviously, that was the impetus for you to leave the first time, so if it bothers you, I'll take it out. True to my prediction, I never made a dime off it; I just added it for her as a favor.

And third...I really want to review your new movie next month. If it's okay with you, I'd like to promote it on the forum as always because that's what I like to do, and this crowd, despite all the negativity of the past week, is largely a fan of what you produce as a filmmaker. Show them a good movie...especially a NEW good movie and that will go a long way toward winning them back.

Guys, let's give this man a collective show of support. What he did, apologizing on a public forum, took a lot of guts. It's easy to be an asshole but difficult...far more difficult...to admit you are wrong and be a man. And by doing this, Rick, you showed me a lot. You're a man, and a very good man.

True enough, for all of us. I'm glad you were able to get ahold of yourself and see the light. Your post took courage and insight.

Thanks for posting -- it is appreciated.

The above pits a kimono-garbed cutie against a slime monster, with tentacle bondage and rape as the result. The user has lots of other similar "fights".

Definitely worth a look-see.

Now lets get back to talking about the good stuff!

And third...I really want to review your new movie next month.

Next month? If the release date is that close, I have to believe the movie has a title. And a cast. And a storyline....

As George Costanza might say, I need details.

I will simply say "ditto" to what has already been expressed by my fellow Gimpers - now I can shelve my "Snidely Whiplash" persona - what say we set the timer back to 0:00 and start the game anew.

That took major stones Rick - kudos.

Stay Well All

Great to have you back Rick. It took a lot of guts to face the firing squad. I hope you find that inner peace you're looking for.

This kind of reminds me of one of those holiday movies from Hallmark. You know the type where a family gathers for a big dinner (Not one of those 30 minute deals that Rachel likes to cook!) and the principals have a huge fight full of angst and bad feelings, only to make up at the end and wind up closer than they've ever been.

Anyhow, I know that I'm a much happier guy now that we're one big happy family again. By the way a quick aside to Mr. Lecter, thank you for the specific wine suggestion. But as they say, wine may be fine, but Lick Her is quicker!

The current poll question is getting close to having run its course, so I decided to suggest a new one to Ralphus. I initially contacted him via e-mail and suggested it in the e-mail, and Ralphus told me to go ahead and post it to the board. So here it is...

If you got home and found that your home had been broken into, and then learned from the police that the suspect is an attractive young woman, would you offer to not press charges if she would give you your stuff back and also submit to a session of corporal discipline? By "corporal" I mean a real firm spanking, caning, or whatever else your sick mind can come up with.

It's kind of a silly question, though. I doubt the police would ever go along with an idea like that, unless the arresting officer happens to be one of the guys who reads this forum, and then he would probably insist on watching or, more likely, participating. And then he would probably want someone to run camera. In which case that woman would probably choose to go to jail instead. If she's smart, anyway.

Brutus: In the midst of the roller coaster ride of emotions the forum went through recently, you mentioned you had seen Dying God and were going to provide more details. I think the dust has settled now. You don't have to do a full review unless you want to, but I'm still interested in whether this one is worthwhile. I'm especially hoping for some rough action for Misty Mundae but I'm not holding my breath.

A Canadian: Your timing absolutely sucked when your review of Super Heroine Close Call 13 was posted at the exact same minute that I announced the forum was going to be closed down (Check it out, we were literally just 12 seconds apart). That story kind of took the limelight away from another fine review, although a few people did manage to give you kudos. Let me be the latest to say thank you. I'm still torn on whether I would like the Giga storylines since my bondage fantasies are more reality based and those seem a bit out there but the tortures described by you and Elkcreek in your reviews still have me intrigued. Maybe if there's enough demand then Video Mayhem might start carrying more of them, too.

The link to your review is in my Homepage URL. I actually added it that night but never announced it until today, since I had my mind on other things, you know :)

It's not my forum, but being so quick to dismiss bullying because of an apology seems short-sighted.

Let's call it what it was - bullying. Out of the blue, the person having a bad day called or implied many of us are monsters, crazy, ripping off his copyrights, shills for competitors, and gay for spiders. (I mean, there's things you call a guy, but gay for spiders, that's stepping over the line.) And apparently threatened to sue.

The apology sounded good - just like apologies from domestic violence abusers probably do. "Aw, honey, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to blacken your eye, I was having a bad day, I love you, I won't do it again..." Yeh, until the next time.

Was the apology sincere? Maybe. Or maybe not. Maybe it was prompted by an "Oh, shit" forehead slapping realization he could be sued, too. Or maybe it was delivered as a joke to see how he could manipulate people. Who knows for sure. Only time will tell. Trust takes a long time to re-earn...

Anything you read from experts about bullying suggests a sort of "trust, but verify" approach. The apology was a good step. Being so accepting of the apology is also good. Kudos to everyone. But at the same time, maybe, Ralphus, you should work to make sure you're not vulnerable to bullying if it ever rears its ugly face again. Like maybe, what the hell, take the "zfx" out of the site name anyway, not because legally you have to, but because it closes one small avenue off from any future abuse. Post other's banners and the like only after getting written permission from them. Things like that. Start a whole new forum if that's what it takes.

Because really, what has changed? Are you always going to be looking over your shoulder, afraid that making the wrong kind of comment will once again enrage the beast? Are you going to censor yourself from now on? Why? What you said about that actress was nothing wrong - you expressed a fantasy, what's wrong with that?

For this forum to become some politically correct wimp fest will lessen it.

Rick, your apology sounded good. And hell, these are stressful times and everyone loses it sometimes. So your apology PROBABLY was heart-felt and a sign of manning up and all that like the other posters said. So you PROBABLY should be congratulated for doing the right thing in the long run.

And yet ... that bizarre, unprompted, nasty bullying still is just as shitty now as it was when you did it. I know if I was Ralphus, I'd be making myself as independent as possible so just in case you ever pulled that shit again, he could laugh in your face.

Liquor in the front, poker in the rear

If she was good-looking, hell, yeah. Put her through a couple of hours of Hogtied, interspersed with WaterBondage and occasional zapping. Fun times!

Woddayamean, you got the wrong girl? Oh, well, sorry, miss -- no hard feelings -- let's start again with the new girl!

I'm going to be the contrarian and stink up the love fest party, just in time for Valentine's Day. It's not my forum, but being so quick to dismiss bullying because of an apology seems short-sighted.

Let's call it what it was - bullying. Out of the blue, the person having a bad day called or implied many of us are monsters, crazy, ripping off his copyrights, shills for competitors, and gay for spiders. (I mean, there's things you call a guy, but gay for spiders, that's stepping over the line.) And apparently threatened to sue.

The apology sounded good - just like apologies from domestic violence abusers probably do. "Aw, honey, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to blacken your eye, I was having a bad day, I love you, I won't do it again..." Yeh, until the next time. "Snipped for space" ...................

I agree with you 110 percent. But it seems you and I are the only two that think this way. Your reference to "Domestic Violence Abusers" really hit home. I hope for the members of this group we are both wrong but sadly it is only a matter of time till it happens again. Next time the membership might not have the time to have another group in place.

Great artists take risks to perform their art. People don't call it art....they call it porn, they are wrong. If you can't be shot at or jailed for it you aren't making leading edge art. Artists push the edges of society and meet resistance from without and within themselves. Rick's an artist, be glad nobody lost an ear over it.

The only perfect people I know are perfect assholes.

Now for some shameless self promotion....check out Dani. She's 19 years old with a perfect body and no tattoos. Some people think her face isn't that cute but I'd have no problem forcing it. I don't think her bare skin has ever been touched because it is extremely sensitive. Check out the clip "Oh Fuck" if you want to see reality teen squealing and uncontrollable kicking and muscle spasm. The whipping post scene is also incredibly dramatic. She didn't lose count because she wanted to or was acting.....she lost count because her mind was someplace else. She quivers and shivers uncontrollably. You don't fake quivering. In the anal rod scene her thighs quiver deliciously. She wouldn't allow vaginal penetration...only anal. When you see that in a porno....its because she is a virgin and is saving herself for the right guy.

Happy VD.......where's a heart shaped ass when you need one?

Matt - will send a mail to you as I would love to get a read on that.

The other day while sitting around being a Sloth I had a bizarre thought - what if in one episode of "Pee Wee's Playhouse" Captain Carl ties up Miss Yvonne and performs a torture session with some of the odd props that abound - OMG, I'm becoming more twisted by the day - what has this forum done to me - AAAARRRGGGGHHHH.

Stay Well All

I'm not sure how easy the titles are to obtain but I would think Video Mayhem would be well advised to continue stocking them. I have noticed that SuperJAV has also added more Giga titles in recent days.

Slaughter Disc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4fogkPBjEo

Here is how I would handle my hypethical scenerio of learning that my house had been broken into and the suspect is an actractive young woman. To start, I would let my heart dictate my actions, instead of my ego. I would arrange a meeting with the judge handling the case, the girl's attorney, and my own attorney. I would inform the three of them of my desire to offer the girl an alternative to going to trial and as a result a means to avoid going to jail. I would tell them that I would be willing to not press charges against her if she agrees to return my belongings and submit to a session of corporal discipline. More specifically, I would suggest that she submit to a caning. I would be sure to clarify that the caning will not be administered by me, but by a professional disciplinarian of the court's choosing.

Before deciding on the number of strokes, I would ask the judge about the length of the jail term that she would most likely be sentenced to if she went to trial and was convicted. I would base the number of strokes on that figure. For example if she would most likely face a jail term of three to five years, I would recommend five strokes (1 stroke for each year). Last of all I would make it absolutely clear to the three of them that the girl's acceptance of the terms are entirely voluntary. She will be allowed to decline the offer and face a normal trial instead. Should she accept, my only stipulation would be that I be allowed to witness the punishment being carried out. If she declines, I will not try to force or coerce her into accepting the offer in any way.

If the offer is deemed acceptable by the judge and both lawyers, then and only then would I present it to the girl.

BTW Ralphus, shouldn't you post my poll question at the top of the board?

Steve Power, good post. And ... I think Dani is actually very cute.

Poll: I like coercion fantasies, I have those way more often than forced fantasies. So I like the idea proposed. But if I were fantasizing this one, there'd be no judge or law enforcement involved - no third parties, just me, catching someone in the act, and giving them a choice to do XY and Z, or be reported.

Whoops! I mean XY and BB. (I forgot, I can't use the letter "Z" on this forum, it's copyrighted, apparently :-).

Liquor in the front, poker in the rear

http://www.amazon.com/Slaughter-Disc-Unrated-Directors-Cut/dp/B000C4Z6EE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1234678693&sr=8-1

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Ralphus: I've gotta apologize for my last bit of false info about "Dying God." The pic of that woman was actually part of a non-consensual scene. No problem giving a full review. It'll be relatively short. Say, what's all that cheering in the background ...

DYING GOD (2008)

OK, step right up! We've got brutal sex murders! We've got hookers and strippers! We've got bizarre rapes! We've got star power in Lance Henriksen! And we've got the lovely Misty Mundae, no stranger to sleaze and bondage!

Yes, once again my friends, I fell for the old "GIMP promotion" scheme that seems to be rampant these days for shitty mainstream movies. It works on me every time.

"Dying God," a thriller about a supernatural lizard man raping and abducting hookers, is particularly despicable in this regard. The lack of GIMP scenes is appalling for a movie with such a premise. The production values are cheap and the acting is laughable. The worst part is that the producers seem to have thrown the plot, chemistry and all common sense out the window and focused solely on creating a dialogue filled with "tough guy talk."

The protagonist is a cop named Sean Fallon (James Horan) who's got some serious issues. He's a boozer, snorts coke, shakes down prostitutes and johns, and sells seized guns back on the streets.

He's assigned to investigate the murder of a prostitute, who near the start of the film is shown getting knocked down in the hall of her apartment building, which somehow reveals her tits.

The forensics guy, who no one seems to listen to throughout the movie, says the hooker was raped to death. The crime scene shows a huge hole in her stomach and three slash marks in her upper chest.

Our hero Fallon goes to a strip club for clues. He breaks up a blow job in a back room given by Mary (Mundae, billed as Erin Brown), and screws her in his car. It seems they are in a relationship of some sort. Cue tough guy talk: "You're gonna go out and buy me some booze or I'm gonna smack you around!"

Fallon gets a frantic call from another prostitute friend. On his way over, we get glimpses of a brunette with frizzy hair, cleave gagged, topless, nipple clamps connected with a chain and leather cuffs in a weak upper spreadeagle. She in ultra-short shiny red shorts and screams in fear as a tattooed guy in a leather mask-hood comes toward her holding a whip. There's a couple of dildos on a table.

Fallon interrupts and beats up the guy while the prostitute who called Fallon releases the victim. (Total accumulated bondage scene time was about 5 seconds.) Turns out the brunette is also a hooker and the whip holder is either a bad trick or a pimp. It's not explained, nor why he was gonna lash the hooker. Fallon lets him go with a tough-guy warning: "If I catch you around here again I'm gonna cut off your dick and stick it up your ass!"

Other women are being attacked or are disappearing. In one scene, a woman is dragged on the floor, and her unconscious and bloody (but clothed) body is raped as we hear the creature panting. The rape lasts for a few seconds. The other attacks are not shown; we only get some crime scene shots.

The city's pimps, including Chance (Henriksen), a gray-haired guy in a wheelchair that's pushed by an attractive, ass-kicking woman named Angel, get together to nail the killer. Their meeting is filled with cigarette smoke, skepticism and way too much testosterone. "Gonna have to work together to get this motherfucker," Chance growls, as he slams his gun down on the table.

Fallon, meanwhile, learns through a woman researcher that the rapist-killer may be a mythical beast that was a god to a now-extinct Amazonian tribe. It seems that the beast's sole purpose is to mate. Infertile women who are raped die because the monster's dick is so big.

At this point, I should have hit the stop button.

But no! This film has Misty Mundae and rapes galore, right? Right?

Anyhow, a guy pulls a knife on a hooker and slices open her bra. He pins her on a bed and rubs the blade between her natural tits. She maces him and her pimp, complete with tough-guy grin, blows off his head with a shotgun.

Fallon and Chance end up going to a dilapidated factory where the creature lives. They hear a woman scream and see blood on the ground.

Chance grumbles: "If that's Angel, I'll tear his fucking head off." (Yeah. I'm sure a 7-foot demon monster that's immune to bullets is absolutely terrified of an old guy in a wheelchair.)

They stumble across a woman's gutted body. Another blood-covered woman is tied one wrist to a pipe. A pregnant woman, roped loosely around neck to a pipe, has a creature fetus ripped out of her gut by the monster.

More cops show up and battle the creature, who fights remarkably like a guy in a rubber suit, while Chance finds Angel tied one wrist (loosely) to a pipe.

The rest of the movie involves a harpoon in Chance's wheelchair, a radial arm saw in pristine condition that the factory workers left behind years ago, and, of course, tough-guy talk: "C'mon big boy! Let's see how you handle this!"

As a GIMP movie, "Dying God" stinks. As a horror movie, "Dying God" stinks. As a sci-fi movie, "Dying God" stinks. As any form of entertainment, "Dying God" stinks.

I could use up all of the bandwidth on this site describing the gaping holes in the plot, but I'll spare you. Misty Mundae was a nonfactor in the movie and she's killed inexplicably and offscreen by the monster.

There's some glimpses of nudity in this movie, but who cares? The unexplained bondage scene is about the only good thing, but it was ridiculously brief and was stopped before the torture began. As the scene had absolutely nothing to do with the plot, I believe it was thrown in so that a still could be used to dupe GIMPers.

This is one of those films that do not even fit into the category of "so bad they're good." Bottom line is that any Amazonian tribe that worships such a lame god as this deserves to be extinct. As do the makers of such crap films.

But I heard the sequel's gonna be a total GIMP sleaze-fest. I can't wait!

GIMP scenes: D

Overall movie: D

ASIAN CULT CINEMA

But man! What a bleeping waste. You look at what that film could have been with a premise like that, not to mention the casting of Misty Mundae, and it's even more sad. You saved me 25 bucks, and for that, I'm grateful. It just goes back to the oft-repeated question of what the hell some filmmakers are thinking when they decide to make an exploitation film but then apparently have no clue what we want to see.

Thinking about Misty Mundae, she's not exactly drawn to Oscar material, but at least a lot of her films have GIMP-worthy moments, particularly the bondage-filled low-budget gem Screaming Dead. Why waste this girl's considerable talents by not casting her as a victim? You know she would do it, and most likely do it without any clothes on. Come on, you casting directors! She's not gonna be young and cute forever.

The direct link to your latest review is in my Homepage URL above.

Usually, it seems the official polls put a GIMP scenario in every option. Something like asking people if they would prefer to see a victim: (a) have her eyeballs licked by Randa Mai and Ralphus, (b) get tortured by having insects dropped into her private area, or (c), get gang raped? (I would choose c).

In the scenario you have described, I would not be prepared to drop the charges. Instead, it would be my hope that justice is served and the police follow the Joseph Marx guidelines for getting a full confession from the woman. I would also hope the police efforts are captured on videotape and that copies are later distributed at prices that are sensitive to the current challenges in the economy.

You should thank God that you don't live in the state of New York. Gov. Patterson wants to tax ALL on line interstate porn.

If you live in the state of New York and you purchase porn produced and sold within New York state you will be taxxed, if this bill passes.

This will not affect intra-state purchases.

I guess he wants to clean up New York, this is ironic, seeing how he placed Gov. Spitzer, who steps down after being cauht going to high priced call girls.

Some of you may already be aware of this, but GIMP is also the name for a graphics editor program (see URL).

Can we sue them for that? Or is it the other way around?

Meanwhile, I came across this editorial in today's Globe and Mail (a Canadian newspaper). It looks like Canadians might have reason to worry about the government forcing Internet providers to keep records for the police of every site a person has visited, similar to what apparently takes place in the UK. If this comes about, guys like me and Lukas may be better off in New York.

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A Canadian: There's just something laugh-out-loud funny about someone talking about "licking" pornography.

I don't see how any measure to track Internet site visits would survive a civil liberties challenge in court. It would take a courageous organization to challenge that, of course. Probably the ACLU, since they frequently take up the causes of civil liberties in general, even when the specific causes are less than palatable to the status quo. I know absolutely nothing about the basis of civil liberties protections in Canada. Sadly, protection against unreasonable search and seizure and warrantless arrests are cornerstones of the US Bill of Rights but have been abrogated regularly by the government in the last eight years. So just because The People are guaranteed such liberties, they mean nothing unless The People are willing to stand up and demand those liberties be recognized and further demand that those who violate those guarantees are prosecuted. A nation of sheep will be led, sooner or later, to the slaughterhouse.

Sorry. End of rant.

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As to the current poll question, I'm not sure I would participate. Corporal punishment all by itself isn't that big a deal for me. Although, possibly yes if she submitted to a lengthy nude strict rope bondage photo session. That might be fun.

I always assumed that was where the title of this site came from. Of course, the word "gimp" was around before Pulp fiction but is that exact phrase not where the title was taken from?

Sorry if my suggestion for the GIMP poll doesn't sound like a typical one. It was my first, and I think it was my non-GIMPer human side that was not in control at the time that I came up with it.

Once I came aboard, I discussed it with my website designer Scribbler and he came up with a better name, using the original name and modifying it so it became something less gay. Thus, "Bring Out The Gimp" became "Bring Out The GIMP (Girls In Merciless Peril)". I think it works better, don't you?

It seems an odd way to get new business.

Sorry if my suggestion for the GIMP poll doesn't sound like a typical one. It was my first, and I think it was my non-GIMPer human side that was not in control at the time that I came up with it.

Not to worry. I'm sure you'll get control over your non-GIMPer side in future polls.

I saw some samples a couple weeks ago from a share site that a person posted. Still looked great as far as a hanging went. Fully clothed and wearing panty hose. Maybe it was a fluke but quality was there. I'll go on record that in my opinion I'm not really a fan of the movies in general. I can have more "Impure" thoughts looking at picture sets than killing a half hour viewing a movie.

I like the idea of a good 5 to 10 minute movie with action than a 30 to 45 minute with some bad plot and acting.

I have gotten a few extra dollars lately and tried to go to the paysites till I get burned again with the reocuring billing where they keep on charging you till you do a stop payment on the credit card.

I figure I'm on a role. So I ask you about another of those hanging and head chopping groups that are being reborn. I heard they shut down because of legal troubles in Great Britain but now they are back. Well they post their pictures on share sites and they don't have any "Water Mark" or "Copy Write" mark to identify it as their work. Well I admit they posted 6 pictures and I reposted 2 of them on another site. Well some guy comes on the next day accusing me of removing the water mark and I shouldn't have down that and if you support the actors support the site. Well I said that I don't remove that stuff and in fact if I get some samples sent to me from a paysite I give credit where credit is do. Well I get a backhanded I'm sorry and that is a time where the groups owner is sending out none marked pictures to keep from being taken on by the law. Well I went back a week latter and removed the offending pictures since I got tired of those rants. Well I then got more complaints from that person why did I remove the pictures? The whole bitching and moaning was just to promote the site.

There is another blog site where it is 90% precent original work with poser and manips and drawings. They also have a no posting of and from paysites. Well this site has that paysite stuff getting posted by some unknown poster. Well when someone says hey what about the no paysite stuff the owner comes on and says well maybe this one time he dosn't mind his stuff being posted so you know they did it but playing this backhanded stuff.

Well if anyone wants to comment it would be nice. I know we have some pay site owners that come and go on this group and I do know that more than a few of the members here are on the dreaded Y@hoo and G@@gle share sites even if they say they don't.

"Bring Out The Gimp" became "Bring Out The GIMP (Girls In Merciless Peril)". I think it works better, don't you?

Yes, this is exactly what I want to see...Girls in Merciless Peril (preferably with their clothes off).

Here is an alternate GIMP poll question for those of you who are interested. I recently came up with it. This time I believe my non-GIMPer side is in control. Instead of hearing about the girl from the police, suppose you walk in on the girl and catch her red handed.

Let's say that as a desperate way to avoid going to jail, she begs you to not call the police and punish her yourself. She is obviously not aware that you are a GIMPer and has no idea what she's asking for. How would you obligue her?

Would you...?
A) Tie her to a stool and strap her naked ass.
B) Tie her to a post, strip her of all clothes, and whip her all over.
C) Lock her in a room/closet and then call over some of your buddies and gang-rape her.
D) None of the above, you'ld have something much worse in store for her.

I am guessing that most of you will lean more towards C or D.

BTW, Ralphus.
I'll leave upto you to decide whether to switch the poll questions.

Poll question - Corporal punishment? Isn't that what nuns do to students at catholic schools? She gets three days on the rack followed by execution. Justice delayed is justice denied.

I wanted to thank the celebs who stopped by and gave us input and credibility. Hannibal, Dean Wormer and Toni Basil - thanks and stop by anytime.

Brutus - thanks for taking a hit for the team - I think that "Dying God" review saved some Gimpers some bucks. Sounds like we may be seeing Lance in a Bill Zebub production soon.

BP - I may be mistaken but over at EyeWitness if click on PPV, then click the non-members section you can still get screen shots from the download movies - what are they now, over $30.00 for a ten minute view - gotta pay for that quality.

Ralphus - maybe I mentioned this before but the above link has a fair burning scene. Not bad for an amateur production and has a pretty good concept. Limited as always by how hard those are to stage. I enjoyed the OTS carry through the woods.

Over the weekend I had opportunity to view a little number titled "The Ash Tree". Not much in the way of Gimp worthy although there is a short dungeon interrogation scene where you only see the aftermath and later three witches are hanged. Mostly, all that is simply a lead-in to the bigger story. So why do I bother to mention it you ask? Because of the pedigree. This was shown on the BBC in 1975 during prime time. In the dungeon scene the accused is standing with her arms outstretched and bound and, are you ready? - she's TOPLESS. What a puritanical nation we are. Even the English got away with it at one time.

Stay Well All

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Ed: D) None of the above. I would definitely have a variety of tortures in store.

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Anyone seen this 1986 Japanese movie called "S&M Hunter"? A bondage superhero? Sounds like a great concept, something on the lines of the "Rapeman" series.

EWP does have some movies, but not a lot, and the ones they have aren't as good -- in my opinion -- as Peachy Keen. Their main draw for members was and is picture sets. That's what I'm interested in.

Jefferson

I think most of us really like YouTied and I hope it will be back soon. At this point, I'm even starting to miss Bondage Dave a little bit.

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On the political front, Barack Obama will be making a brief visit to Canada tomorrow. I don't imagine anyone in the US really cares but at least one columnist thinks you should.

In regards, to Television shows. A few to contemplate.

Dark Angel - Jessica Alba ..... That show should have been written and directed by Rick Masters.

A taste of what Dark Angel could have looked like on a regular basis, if written and directed by Rick.
http://galleries.elitedollars.com/bannedcelebs/movies/jessicaalba16/bannedcelebs_com_1.mpg
http://galleries.elitedollars.com/bannedcelebs/movies/jess01/3.mpg

If Lisa was to hand the dildo, I mean the baton, to anyone, it should have been Jessica. Truth be told, I wish a wide eyed 18 year old Jessica Alba had happened upon a guy named Rick several years back and got charmed into making more than a few movies. How cool would it have been to hear Jessica say "I've made 10 movies now with Rick, and I still don't know what ZFX means."

Wonder Woman - Lynda Carter ..... I'm not into bestiality, I have a rule against it. Of course there's an exception to every rule, and yes, rules are made to be broken, and so was Wonder Woman.
http://www.wonderwoman-online.com/images/abc/abcguide/7.jpg
http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/images/culkin20blog.jpg

Charlie's Angels - Cheryl Ladd ..... She was a GIMP many times and always managed to escape unscathed. How wrong is that.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/779df427171809

TJ Hooker - Heather Locklear ..... Wow, she was hot. Hot, subdued and captured in numerous episodes. My favorite just needed to be tweaked a little.

My favorite being an episode in which Heather falls victim to a white slavery ring. What a quandary, dilemma dilemma. In it, Heather goes undercover as an exotic dancer at a club called the Pleasure Palace to learn why girls from the club have been mysteriously disappearing. The club is a front for international slavers, girls working there are abducted, violated, sold and perpetually ravaged. Only days after being hired, Heather's chosen to be their next toy. Heather's chloroformed, abducted and placed aboard a plane so she can be taken away to be sold as a sex slave.

Heather looking for work
http://www.desipio.com/images/locklear_heather-bw.jpg

Heather dancing at the club
http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70499_Heather_Locklear_TJ_Hooker_05_123_655lo.jpg
http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70504_Heather_Locklear_TJ_Hooker_06_123_653lo.jpg
http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70504_Heather_Locklear_TJ_Hooker_06_123_653lo.jpg
http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70481_Heather_Locklear_TJ_Hooker_01_123_651lo.jpg
http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70624_Heather_Locklear_TJ_Hooker_15_123_1004lo.jpg
http://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70635_Heather_Locklear_TJ_Hooker_17_123_1117lo.jpg

Heather Chloroformed
http://lordcarry3.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tjhooker2s.jpg

Heather Cleave gagged
http://boundunderduress.com/UnderDuress/BnD/did/TJHooker-Outcall8.jpg

Tweaked version - She's actually sold, not rescued by Captain Kirk, I mean TJ Hooker.

Sold to a gent in Japan named Randa Mai.

LET THE ATTACKERS MOVIES BEGIN.

Not a TV show, a movie.

Fast Times At Ridgemont High - Phoebe Cates ..... I got a hard on just typing her name. That much lauded fantasy slow motion pool scene should have been a GIMP scene.
http://footloose.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/phoebe_cates_fast_times.jpg
http://www.insomniacslounge.com/uploaded_images/61746_Phoebe_Cates_Fast_Times_at_Ridgemont_High_HDTV_22_122_350lo-795422.jpg
http://www.all-nude-celebs.us/taboo/phoebe-cates/phoebe010.jpg
http://www.all-nude-celebs.us/taboo/phoebe-cates/phoebe011.jpg

What kind of lame ass teen is Judge Reinhold. A kiss, a kiss is his masturbatory fantasy. After all was said and done that pool should have been ringed with yellow tape. And the arresting officers should have arrested Phoebe for entrapment. Setting up a great scenario for the second, third, and fourth load.

Fast Times WIP - Phoebe Cates ..... In it, Phoebe's violated by the prosecuting attorneys, her defence lawyers, the defendants, the court reporter, the judge and several jurors, all while being threatened by two armed bailiffs. Bailiffs, that inevitably escort her to a maximum security prison after she's sentenced to Indefinite incarceration. A mandatory sentence for the crime of entrapment.

The dispatch, transport unit, having misplaced her outer attire, her prison garb, deliver her as is. A scantly clad Phoebe, delivered after being subjected to various forms of debauchery on route.
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/paradise/normal_paradise178.jpg

Her new accommodations, a forbidding facility.
http://myusenet.youth-and-beauty.net/thumb/alt.binaries.aoi/200701/vi/Phoebe_Cates_-_Lace_-_Topless__young___1.09_.jpg

A Reformatory, where she's treated to an obstacle course of exploitation. Voracious lesbian ethnic gangs, malevolent snatch seeking guards, and a sadistic, perverted warden, with a want for kink, and a peculiar idiom, always punctuated with "The Rules, are the Rules."

A maniacal miscreant intent in the overseeing of all, including a clandestine chamber buried beneath the prison. An elaborately equipped room where Phoebe is brought nightly for stretches of interrogation. A precarious prelude to Torture. Events of which, flow into her taking, by tormenters intent on transforming her bound body into a pliable paradise, Melodious, mellifluous moans, flood the chamber, as each is plundered from Phoebe's taunt, tied flesh.

Serene sounds, to cloak a cacophony, spilled by invasive implements, intrusively entering, each and every orifice. Phoebe's pleas for salvation each an all, maliciously met with silencing cocks, prone to spew. Weakened and wrought, with wrapped wrist, she's duly carried to her cell, by a fever filled draconian duo.

There, she's hand gagged, splayed and simultaneously penetrated. Her shared saturated slit a churning caldron of pitch and catch.
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/lace/normal_Phoebe_Cates_-_Lace2_-_003.jpg

Undoubtably, the obligatory shower scene would be in play. In keeping with the theme and mood.

Within the shower, Phoebe would be bound AOH beneath a cascading flow of frayed fluid. Relentlessly bathed, while being mercilessly breached by a seemingly endless cavalcade of lust driven inmates equipped with surreptitiously obtained immensely elongated vibrating strap-ons to thrust her into an orgasmic labyrinth from which there is no escape.

Bind her and they will Cum.
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/paradise/normal_paradise081.jpg

Now THAT'S a masturbatory fantasy. Judge Reinhold you Wuss. Half Wimp, Half Puss. Yes, I know I'm carrying a torch. The good news is, I could lend it to Ralphus to use on her, talk about entertainment.

Ralphus, need a lite.

Phoebe showering, moments prior to her being subdued, tied and traversed.
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/paradise/normal_paradise078.jpg
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/paradise/normal_paradise076.jpg
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/paradise/normal_paradise072.jpg
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/paradise/normal_paradise156.jpg
http://www.hogrockcafe.com/Phoebe%20Cates%20Nude%20Cut%202%20-%20Paradise.jpg

Lastly, in the tradition of sex and submission, PROOF, Phoebe had a good time during the masturbatory fantasy.
http://84.245.19.203/cates/albums/lace/normal_Phoebe_Cates_-_Lace2_-_007.jpg

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WHOA, Wait a minute, wait wait wait wait, stop everything, hold on. That's the wrong picture.

Forget you saw that, it never happened. Here we go, this is the one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/professormurder/soooo_killer.jpg

There, that's my girl.

See, PROOF.

I'm a bit confused here. You say New York's Gov. Patterson wants to tax all online INTERSTATE porn. You then go on to say, "If you live in the state of New York and you purchase porn produced and sold WITHIN New York state you will be taxed . . . This will not affect INTRA-STATE purchases." (Emphasis mine.)

So, which online porn does he want to tax -- interstate (between states) or intrastate (within the state)?

Not that it affects me anyway -- I live in L.A.

Which means if you live in New York and and buy porn made outside of the state you will NOT be taxxed. Similiarly, if you live outside of New York and buy porn made in New York you will NOT be taxxed.

I apologize if I confused the prefixes inter and intra.

Ironically, one of the opponents to this proposal is, believe it or not, the right wing religious, who say that passing this tax means that the state of New York, recognizes porn as a legitimate source of revenue.

Brutus - I saw that "S&M Hunter" over at Asian Cult - looked very interesting but I hesitated - I had the nagging feeling it might be done tongue-in-cheek - not that that is necessarily bad, just didn't know whether to pull the trigger or not.

jhlipton - checked out that link to Peachy Keen - do those scenarios involve bondage or is it simply chicks getting whacked - they seem to have some nice looking models but they always look better in ropes.

Stay Well All

Mike (and others talking about the NY tax),

Porn is neither here nor there insofar as the new NY Internet taxes are concerned. Porn is simply the carrot which is being used to sell the new taxes to the public. If you read the bills that are pending, the intention and desire on the part of the legislators has NOTHING (and I repeat NOTHING) to do w/ "porn" (it it well known that Congressmen are the biggest consumers of porn anyway), but rather the intention is to tax ALL TRANSACTIONS on the Internet.. Taxing everything from watching a YouTube video, to taxing individual emails that are sent out, etc.

Think of how this will affect your online experience in the future..

Again, the intention is to TAX ALL TRANSACTIONS on the Internet, and ultimately to destroy the Internet by taxing it to death (except for the big media companies who will then "own" the Web, and subdomain it out "mySpace" style to those only who have enough $$ to pay and who are willing to play by their big corporate rules).

That's their plan, at any rate..

While the idea of pushing taxation in and of itself is not "treasonous" per se, these plans in Washington (and the respective state governments), and the UN, etc, to tax the Internet to death IS one part of a much broader, and much more treasonous agenda to subvert rights and freedoms and to institute totalitarianism. The new taxes should be opposed, and opposed strenuously..

And yes, the NY taxes DO affect you, even if you live in Los Angeles. They affect everyone everywhere.. (it's a global economy, n'est pas?) NY is being used as a trial balloon to introduce these taxes elsewhere in the US, and ultimately throughout the world. Stop the tyranny now, while you still have a chance..

And again, it's worth repeating that these taxes have NOTHING to do w/ porn whatsoever. That's simply the carrot used to sell the public on the "need" for new taxes.. These taxes are only the tip of the iceberg of something that is far more monstrous, and far more deadly..

I sometimes see some pretty good sales for the box sets of Dark Angel but I'm not familiar with the show. Do you know whether the clips you posted are from season one or season two?

BP: I've never been a member, but everything I've ever seen from Eyewitness Production has been top-notch. Best hanging vids I've ever seen. Some of the hottest models, too, especially the gorgeous Olivia Simon, who starred in 4 of their 5 videos. Sadly, it doesn't look like you can order the movies anymore, although maybe they are included if you buy a membership, I don't know. I do know their stuff is devilishly expensive, overpriced if you ask me, but worth it if that's your kink.

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Jefferson wrote:

I was watching Dragonslayer the other night and couldn't help but think of you. The terrified virgin sacrifice had managed to slip out of her manacles only to be incinerated by the dragon before making her escape.

Yeah, I saw that over 25 years ago and I still remember the scene. Best part of the movie. But why chain her up and then wait til she gets loose to burn her? Much more fun if she's struggling in her bonds before meeting her fiery end. Even then, the filmmakers didn't know what we wanted to see. Or maybe it's possible the film wasn't made for the sadistic pyromaniac audience? I'll tell ya, our film choices are so limited...

Here's a still from the movie: http://www.imagebam.com/image/7b136e27281815

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MasterDetective: Hey, haven't seen you here for a while. Is March 1 still the return date for YouTied?

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Darkroom: Likewise, where have you been? Any updates on the new film you were planning to shoot?

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Harry: You don't have to join this forum, just stop in on a regular basis and post your thoughts whenever they come up. There's lots to see and new stuff everyday, so we hope you'll be back again soon.

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Aries: Enjoyed the trip down memory lane with all the pictures, that was nice. The guys behind "TJ Hooker" knew they had a hot ticket, didn't they? Heather Locklear, wow. Having her go undercover as a dancer, and making sure she got tied up several times on the show...yep, they were no dummies.

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A Canadian: The "Dark Angel" clips that Aries linked were from the episode "Love Among The Runes", in the second season. I wouldn't buy the box set for that; probably would be cheaper to sign up for Netflix and rent the episode, which is what I did. Can't turn down seeing Jessica Alba being shocked; that's pretty special. She's pretty hot when she suffers. From past experience, I can personally vouch for that.

A Canadian: Thanks, I appreciate your acknowledgement.

Good news, I've heard Jessica's number 1 on the list to star in a remake of Barbarella.

Jessica Alba wanted as Barbarella

Big news on the Barbarella front. Hot off the heels of telling you the film was put on hold because the studio wanted a bigger name comes word that Jessica Alba is in talks to replace Rose McGowan as Barbarella.

The remake of the 1968 flick "Barbarella" starring Jane Fonda has been in the works for a while.

If this happens, ... On opening night, you might as well just leave your pants at home.

I don't recall any bondage that they've done. You'd do better with Inshadow (Subscriptions or Pay-per-View) -- See Horror Castle and Pantyhose Maniac.

But Eyewitness Productions is the best for bondage-snuff. Almost all their victims are handcuffed (usually behind the back), and many of the stranglees are hog-tied (although they're only cuffed when killed).  See the Model pages -- Ralphus prefers Olivia Simon; I like Monique Briot (more here, here and here).

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Sadly, it doesn't look like you can order the movies anymore, although maybe they are included if you buy a membership, I don't know.

Au contraire, my height-dimished compadre!  You can order the older movies (Die Casting, Now Hiring, Guilty, Dirty Laundry and No Safe but Fun [sic] here and new movies (about 63 available) here.  Membership only gets you a $5.00 discount off a $20 to $35 video.

Their main focus is still the photosets.

Aries - that was quite an effort on those shows - thanks and good work - quite a trip down memory lane.

jhlipton - I see why you are taken with Monique - like our host gnome I always had a thing for Olivia, especially in "Deadly Laundry" - as I recall our friend Natasha commented on doing some shoots with her and thought her a very shy lass - said she dropped out of the business for some personal issues - what a pity.

MasterDetective - could not agree more with your analysis of the tax/porn issue - a classic right out of the government playbook - get a cause, create a crisis and mask the real intent with a "moral high ground" stance - in this case, tax the hell out of every human activity on the net.

Stay Well All

Then when she passes out, I'd throw a bucket of water on her face and do it again. (in my fantasies, of course)

Assuming it were to happen, I'm not sure what I would think. I mean, I love Barbarella. And I love Jessica Alba. But it's hard to imagine any remake staying true to the dirty (and arguably chauvinistic) vision of original screenwriter Terry Southern. I'm sure the remake would be campy but would it dare to be promote the erotic thrill of seeing a sexy woman being repeatedly trapped and tortured (however mildly)? I'm skeptical.

I'm also not sure about rumored director Robert Rodriguez. He did good work with Jessica in Sin City but Grindhouse raised some serious questions about how well he and Quentin Tarantino truly understand the merits of exploitation movies.

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That singer guy who did this should be shot.

On that note, I was hoping to get some help from you guys. Ever since I viewed Alien Probe 1-3 from ZFX, I've been trying to find a good GIMP film that has a sci-fi twist, similar to Alien Probe (woman being abducted by aliens, woman being kidnapped by a monster, etc). Its just an interesting twist on a tried and true concept of a damsel in distress.

So does anyone know of any movie producers/video on demand/ anything that can point me in the right direction of what I'm looking for?

Thanks in advance guys!

A new whipping scene found

Title: "Arn, der Kreuzritter" or in English I mean "Arn - The Knight Templar"

A nun is whipped in an convent from a other nun with 3 lashes. Good scene and as last sequence you can see the bloody back from the girl. Around 2 min long.

Pics in next days in my yahoogroup

Greets TARL

There are some reviews of Giga movies in the GIMP Reviews section.

Sticking with Japanese porn, Attackers sometimes releases films with sci-fi themes. Of the few titles I have seen of this nature, I haven't been too impressed with them. But you might want to check movies such as Shark Special 41 and Shark Special 56 (I have reviewed Shark Special 56).

Searching through Japanese porn options might also turn up some other titles with sci-fi themes, such as IEVD-007 (Secret of Pegasus) with Mai Sakashita.

Any other places I could check out?

If you're a fan of the sci-fi theme and you liked ZFX's Alien Probe series, well, there's plenty more where that came from. I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it yet, but ZFX has actually done quite a few movies that had sci-fi themes, or at least sci-fi elements in some of their scenes.

That particular aspect of Rick's work isn't among my favorites, since my bondage fantasies have a more realistic edge and I would rather see a male villain that I can identify with rather than, say, a sex-wracked plant sprouting phallic tentacles. But when he does do it, the scenes are often quite amazing technically, sort of a like a live action version of what you would see in Japanese anime. Even if they don't personally turn me on, I still admire his effort in making these fantasies come to life. If you're into stuff like that, you should love them.

Here's a list off the top of my head of ZFX films with what we refer to as "the weird shit":

Ballista 2: An excellent scene with a horny plant
Chamber of Horrors: Rape and penetration by an invisible spirit
Dance Macabre: Ditto
The Incubus: More invisible demon rape, and bonus, it's Lisa Kinkaid as the victim
Machine Head: A horny robot
Machine Head 2: Cold Metal: More adventures with the horny robot, but this is the better film
Phantacide Peepshow 2: Chandra Sweet is attacked by a computer
The Plant: A horny plant (what else?)
Robopimp: A robot with an afro wig and sunglasses, and no, I'm not kidding
Seed: A horny plant
Spinnerette: An enormous horny spider
Viral Load: Horny plant
Underland 2: Rape by a monster that resembles a giant turd, and no, I'm still not kidding
The Worm: By gosh, I think it's a worm in this one

I know I'm probably missing some of them for sure, maybe someone else can add to the list. There are also several of these titles that have reviews in the Reviews section if you want more details, as well as a handy link you can click on to buy the film.

As you all probably know, "Barbarella" was based on a French comic strip created by Jean-Claude Forest. While I've never seen more than a few panels of the strip, it's my understanding that a truly accurate screen adaptation would have to have just enough gratuitious plot to link together the various sexual encounters. In other words, it would be soft space porn.

The one with Chandra Sweet (blonde) and Tabitha Jordan as hitchhikers who strangle a guy, and then his body becomes a zombie and rapes them, AND they keep getting pulled into another dimension where Chandra gets raped in a field, and Chandra and Tabitha get bound and assaulted by dudes in masks and moving tubes in the other dimension's warehouse, AND there is a flashback of Rick himself as an exorcist who visits a young woman chained to a cot in an insane asylum, a young woman who is visited by a floating green putty faced incubus that covers her mouth with green silly putty???? It's so sincere, yet so twisted!

Huh...?

What's with the new animated graphic? The new image really caught me by surprise, I was used to seeing the blonde. I don't know how I feel about that black haired girl and the generally darker motif to the image. I'll wait to see what impression I get from it before I decide.

BTW ... Great find. A cute bound Asian school GIMP. Don't you just have that visceral urge to help...her assailants.

A Canadian: I can fully understand why you'd be skeptical. However, I'd rather they try and fail than forgo the movie entirely. If it's done correctly, it will undoubtedly prove to be most stimulating.

Scotpens: Jessica Alba, soft space porn. Sounds good to me.

For some reason, it really got to me. Maybe because I really like the sci-fi stuff. Or maybe because usually lists are really long lists of EVERY movie done by a producer. But seeing that bite-sized list really brought the quality home to me.

I have fond memories of virtually every one of those movies.

Rick, we may have our differences about free speech on this board. But nothing detracts from the fact that you have been an incredible artist. You worked hard over the years to deliver high quality product. You made many people really happy with your art. That list alone is an incredible accomplishment, and you should feel good you did something so lasting and beautiful for humankind. Lasting, quality art is about the highest accomplishment a human can realize in his or her life. Hopefully 1,000 years from now, like with Chinese pictoglyphs archeaologists will be unearthing your work in appreciation and wonder.

How I wish there were more, newer, ZFX flix. I miss them.

Liquor in the front, poker in the rear

We needed something to beat the winter blues

Reviewer: weewilly

ElitePain.com produces the Elite Club video series, which portrays rather harsh BDSM on female victims. The action focuses on impact play such as, whipping, flogging, cropping, paddling, and caning, but occasionally features other BDSM activities involving clamps/clips, piercing, electricity, hot wax, and forced penetration. The EC videos are in Hungarian with English subtitles. This is a review of an older video, Elite Club: 10th case.

The plot of EC10 involves two lawyers, Monica and Leila, who have been sleeping around. Without their consent, their escapades have been videoed and posted on the Web. Their conduct has brought discredit not only upon themselves, but also upon their profession. They are seeking assistance from the Elite Club to have the embarrassing material confiscated and deleted from the Web before it can ruin their careers. The Elite Club agrees to handle their case only if the ladies agree to successfully endure a series of "challenges" to prove their worthiness and to atone for their indiscretions.

Monica and Leila are average-looking, girl-next-door types. Although they are not particularly glamorous, they both have beautiful, slender bodies, which are on full display throughout the video. Dark-haired Monica has a toned body and nice tits, but has a face that reminds me of Stan Laurel. Auburn-haired Leila is more petite with smaller boobs, but a somewhat prettier face. Both ladies have immaculate hair, nails, and makeup.

After some preliminary dialog to set up the plot, Monica and Leila take off their clothes and get down to business. The first punishment involves a tack-board, a wooden board inlaid with thumbtacks. The Elite Club head dominatrix, Hostess Kyra, presses Monica's breasts hard onto the tack-board and holds her there for several seconds. When Kyra let her up, Monica has a few tacks stuck in her skin. Next, Leila is forced sit on the tack-board, and then she is tied in that position for a short thigh caning. Both ladies writhe and complain convincingly, but this whole scene is rather lame.

Things improve when Monica and Leila square off for an extended whipping duel. Now we're talking! Greased up and standing naked with their left arms tied together by a rope, each delivers about 20 lashes to the other under the watchful eye of Hostess Kyra. As the duel continues, neither girl is enjoying the experience as red welts blossom on their backs, butts, and legs. What's better is that Kyra demands some "do-overs" when the girls are too easy on each other. Eventually, Kyra declares Monica the winner of the duel, so Leila will be subjected to further whipping in the next scene as punishment for her loss.

As the next scene opens, Leila stands in the middle of a bare white room awaiting her punishment. Nude, barefoot, and blindfolded, she is surrounded by four mistress candidates, who are preparing to tag-team her with whips. One by one, each mistress delivers lashes to the back of Leila’s body (buttocks, back, and back of her legs). Hostess Kyra motivates the mistresses to give maximum effort by forcing them to strip if they don't whip Leila hard enough or use poor whipping technique. Some mistresses lose all their clothes before demonstrating technique that satisfies Hostess Kyra. Nude victim and nude or partially nude mistresses: what’s not to like?

Unfortunately, this is a rather tedious scene, because the mistresses take turns delivering 3 or 4 strokes and then pause to hear Kyra's critique. If Kyra assesses a "stripping penalty," then the action is further delayed as the offending mistress fumbles around removing some clothes. Then, a different mistress steps up and the process continues. It is also a bit monotonous because all Leila really does is stand there with her hands clasped behind her head and cry out after each stroke. Her cry is rather annoying because it is a long continuous, "Whaaaaaa," rather than a sharp, "AAH!" (Pardon the old school reference, but Leila's cry reminds me of Lucille Ball's exaggerated cry when she was upset. If you know what I'm taking about, you get the point. It's very grating!)

What saves the scene is that most of the whiplashes are very hard. By scene's end, the mistresses are really laying into poor, trembling, sobbing Leila. I noticed that two mistresses are right-handed and two are left-handed. The righties swing the whip more "like girls"; whereas, the lefties deliver more powerful strokes. One of the lefties actually gets a diabolical grin as she puts her whole body into the whipping motion, and Leila reacts sharply to the power of those strokes.

Then, it's Monica's turn. Nude and bound face down on a trestle with arms and legs spread wide, Monica is double teamed by two mistresses (one lefty and one righty), who each whip her back and then cane her buttocks. The bondage is pretty poor, and at one point Monica manages to get her hands free. Perhaps, her getting loose is a testament to the harshness of the whipping. After all, she does take some vicious blows. I was mildly amused when, in the midst of this brutal beating, Monica says something in Hungarian that translates as the rather tame expletive "Gosh!" in English. Regardless of what Monica utters, the beating is so hard that at one point the action stops to allow Monica to regain her composure. After that action continues, the lefty really winds up and lays into Monica's ass with a cane. Like a tennis pro swinging a racket, the lefty takes the cane way back and then uncoils her body to deliver ten vicious blows. From the sound of the cane alone, you know it's doing damage to poor Monica's butt, and the long red welts across her creamy ass bear witness to the ferocity of these strokes.

Next, Monica is nude and kneeling between two posts. With her arms spread above her head and tied to opposite posts, Monica receives a 20-lash breast whipping from Hostess Kyra and one of the mistresses. Thankfully, the bondage is better this time, and Monica doesn't get loose. By the end of the scene, Monica is sobbing and her lovely breasts are covered with red stripes and welts.

Now, it's back to Leila. Nude and lying on her back with her legs pulled up and spread, Leila receives 20 cane strokes on her inner thighs from Hostess Kyra. I must confess that I prefer that whipping victims to be standing or kneeling, so I'm not a fan of this position. From her reaction, I am certain that Leila is not an ardent fan of this position either -- but for a different reason than mine. She thrashes about rather desperately as the caning continues, and she ends up with some nasty welts. As in her earlier scenes, Leila emits the same annoying cries throughout this caning. I really wish she'd been gagged, but gagging is something that the folks at ElitePain.com never do.

Then, the scene switches back to Monica, who is still kneeling bound between two posts. Fresh from the earlier whipping, Monica's breasts are now subjected to black metal binder clips. A guy dressed as a monk fastens 4 clips on each of Monica's breasts. First, three clips are attached to each breast, and then one clip is affixed to each nipple. Monica becomes desperate when the clips are applied to her nipples, but she becomes even more distressed when the monk removes the clips by whipping them off with a riding crop. In most cases, several blows are required to dislodge each clip. Blood actually appears on one of her nipples when the clip is smacked off.

Finally, Leila is tied standing spread-eagle between two posts and the monk delivers more than 20 lashes to the front of her body. For some reason, I wasn't as bothered by Leila's cries in this scene because it was edited in a way that shortened her cries. Once he completes the whipping, the monk sets about piercing Leila's breasts with metal skewers. He jabs one into her left breast, but for some reason the skewer does not go through. So, he abandons this attempt and focuses only on skewering her right breast, which is successful. He continues her torment by heating the skewer with a candle for several seconds, and Leila's reaction seems real enough. The scene ends with Leila still tied to the posts. The skewer is still in her right breast and blood trickling from her left breast. Her head hangs down and she is sobbing. Fade to black.

Pluses:
Some very harsh corporal punishment
Over 200 strokes delivered with various implements
A few extras like nipple clips and breast skewering
Intense reactions from the victims
One scene in which the victim is blindfolded

Minuses:
Whipping "like a girl"
Sometimes ineffective bondage
Annoying vocalizations

Overall:
For real corporal punishment administered to fairly pretty, naked, and usually bound female victims; Elite Club: 10th Case earns a B+.

... in the midst of this brutal beating, Monica says something in Hungarian that translates as the rather tame expletive "Gosh!" in English.

Ha! I've seen a few Japanese movies where the victim is screaming her head off in pain and the English translation is "Ouch!" Gotta love it when things get lost in translation.

... gagging is something that the folks at EltiePain.com never do.

That's a real shame. Gags could certainly solve the translation problems and would be an incentive for me to fork out so much cash for a movie.

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Aries: I see we enjoyed some of the same TV damsels from years back. Thanks for sharing the pics.

As for the remake of "Barbarella," having Jessica Alba play the lead is a great idea. I also agree with A Canadian's skepticism in terms of GIMP value. My guess is that it will be either awesome or shitty. I can't really see anything in-between on this project.

For some mainstream movies with creature rape, just to name a few off the top of my head, you could always check out:

Breeders (the 1986 version, not the remake), which coincidentally I reviewed here,
The Beast Within, which I reviewed here, and
Inseminoid, which I reviewed here.

Obviously, I am also a fan of creature rape movies.

And of course there's a whole world of tentacle rape hentai available if you like anime.

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MAV: That Amber Rayne secret agent clip looks kind of like a lead-in to a female-dom/male-sub shoot, doesn't it? Amber did several of them for Twisted Factory's Captive Male web site. Although I haven't watched any of them (male subs turn me off), I have seen Amber topping other females and she is a wicked dom. And besides, Amber Rayne being used and abused is always my preference. She has incredibly high endurance.

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weewilly said: "... a face that reminds me of Stan Laurel..."

That's hilarious. And although the emphasis on extreme whipping and impact play puts me off a bit from the ElitePain web site, I had to check out the pictures just to see for myself. Sure enough. I'll never watch another old Laurel and Hardy clip the same way again.

Also, I liked the stills showing the girls all oiled up, since slender naked oiled up babes make for some of my favorite scenes. That was great review. Thanks.

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Jessica Alba pissed me off playing a stripper who never fucking strips in Sin City, so my first reaction to her being in a Barbarella remake was negative. But then I remembered that Jane Fonda didn't have any nude scenes in the original either, although there were some very hot scenes. I'm just not sure Jessica Alba would be willing to go the distance for Barbarella. For all her sultry good looks, I can't really think of a role where she was actually acting sexy. Mostly it is just her looks. Her sexiness in Sin City was just great choreography. If she doesn't want to play the role in the spirit in which it was written, maybe she ought to step aside and let someone who will. (Could you imagine Angelina Jolie playing Barbarella?) I just hate disappointing remakes.

Wow! First off, thanks for all the tips. The main thing that has always impressed me about this forum while I was lurking was how close the community is, and how helpful everyone is when someone new enters the fold.

I probably should've said this in my initial posting, but the main reason I asked my question was because I seemed to have exhausted the ZFX route, I think I've seen all the sci-fi type films ZFX put out.

I've always been a fan of the traditional GIMP type movies, but the sci-fi element simply adds a new dimension that keeps these style movies fresh. It might sound weird, but the normal girl-gets-attacked-and-raped style porn/movie can get old after awhile.

I'm hoping to hear of any more tips you guys might have for me regarding my search, but I want to make sure you guys know that I'm appreciative of your help already given.

As for the review itself, it was really good. A lot of fun to read, and clearly you put a lot of enthusiasm into your descriptions. As far as Elite Pain not gagging the victims, I would say there's probably a reason for it since these are supposed to be corporal punishment type settings and you generally only gag a woman if it's an illicit, illegal thing you're doing and you don't want others to hear. Nonetheless, anytime you don't have a woman gagged, that does add an air of consensuality to the scene and makes it less effective. Yes, clearly, these women are really suffering, but not having them gagged also implies that they're submitting to a session rather than being forced. And if the sole reason for not gagging her is so that it won't drown out the screams, I contend that muffled screams sound better anyway.

Your comment about Monica looking like Stan Laurel also had me going back and checking out the pics to see what you're talking about. You pretty much nailed it with your description, yeah. That inspired me to add a caption to this picture:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/476ce927544866

And before anybody says anything, I know it was Oliver Hardy that usually delivered the line. It was just too tempting to pass up.

Your review was added to the Reviews section in my Homepage URL above.

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Since this is Oscar night, it's time to quote one of my favorite lines from modern cinema: "Oh my God, I'm being fucked by a teddy bear." Yes, John Galt, the teddy bear rape is from Voodoo Dolls and it is definitely hot. I love that scene even though I normally don't care too much for Rick's weird stuff.

As I said elsewhere on this forum, I knew I was sexually strange pretty early on (hard wired?) and bondage formed my sexual fantasies, literally, from childhood. As I grew into my teen years boys showed me "Men Only" vanilla magazines but they bored me. I wanted to see beautiful girls tied up. It wasn't good enough to see a beautiful girl lounging on a beach in Lanzarotte - she had to be helpless, tied and gagged! I know you know what I mean! But that took me "out there' in my head, and into a difficult reality. The more I became aware of my sado/masochistic sexuality, the more I realised there were many opportunities to deny myself in the real world. This is the huge dilemma for people who really feel like me - do we rape or not? Trust me, there's no easy answer. The perfect sexual assault could be.....just around the corner..

Fan of the Gimp - was browsing the March #2 update at Video Mayhem at the above link - seems there are several new tentacle type Japanese films just come in under that SDMS label - could be your lucky day - let us know if anything floats your boat.

weewilly - blow out review man - Elite Pain seems to be your cup of tea - I'm still cleaning coffee off the screen from your Stan Laurel reference.

Ralphus - never viewed any of those China Bondage efforts but may have to now - that's a great scene on today's header - before I drop bucks what's your take on them?

Stay Well All

There are basically three parts to this movie. The first part, begins promisingly with a scene of two captured girls. One is clad in bra and slip, blindfolded, cleave-gagged (not very well) and is lying flat on a table with her hands and feet strapped (not convincingly, I might add) to each end of the table. The hands of her captor appear in view, with surgical gloves on, and each time he touches her, she screams her head off and begs for her life (see, he should have stuffed her mouth with her panties or something). As he moves up her body from her feet to her neck, he begins to act as if he is going to choke his victim. The second girl is observing this, is weakly gagged, and is apparently restrained, although we can't see exactly how. She is also screaming and moaning. So there's no nudity, lame gags and restraints, too much screaming and not enough mmmphing. But you don't see many straight films that start out this way, so I continued to watch.

We cut to what is we come to realize is a flashback, a prelude to the events described above. There are four girls who make a living as models: Miley (no, really), blonde Sandra (who looks like Mary-Kate Olsen with a Mickey Rourke facelift job), dark-haired Rachel (my favorite), and red-haired Laura. There is an endless amount of girl-talk, but we learn that another (unseen) friend, Shelley, has been found dead, and that Miley's photographer boyfriend, Brian, once did a photoshoot of Shelley. Then, on the way to visit her friends, Miley gets a flat tire and is helped by a chubby loser named Matt, who fixes her tire and tries to make a move on her. But Miley flips him off and speeds away, pissing him off greatly.

The second third of the movie is taken up entirely (no exaggeration) by Brian taking millions of pictures of each one of the girls in their bikinis at the beach while a nonstop soundtrack of '80's tunes plays in the background. I never thought I would find myself calling a swimsuit modeling marathon tedious, but there, I said it. While this is going on, we see chubby Matt sneaking around among the rocks on the shore, so we know he's the bad guy.

Nothing GIMP-worthy happens until about an hour and twenty minutes into the movie (seriously), when Brian visits an old flame, model (and major wacko) Magdalina, for a supposed photo-shoot. Chubby Matt chloroforms him and ties him (weakly) to a chair. Miley is presented, tied to a chair in similar fashion. I won't give away what happens next, but it's not worth the wait. What a mess, and what a waste of potential. I give the movie a D overall, and an F for GIMP-worthiness. My conclusion: take the film's title as a warning. By the way, there are other flicks with this title - the one I reviewed can be found at the link in the URL above.

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Jake: The last part of your post was rather disturbing unless I read it wrong.

This is the huge dilemma for people who really feel like me - do we rape or not? Trust me, there's no easy answer. The perfect sexual assault could be.....just around the corner..

The answer should be easy and quite obvious.

Sloth: Great tip! These videos look good, from the cover at least. Any place I could get a synopsis or a review of these videos?

I've had some bad luck with Japanese videos being the complete opposite of what I had anticipated, and I'd like to not deal with that again.

On Jessica as Barbarella. You're more than right, having Jessica Alba play the lead, IS a great idea.

In terms of GIMP value. If it's awesome, AWESOME. If it's shitty, NEXT.

Weewilly: Great review of Elite Club, 10th Case. An in depth detailed review is always appreciated. Thanks.

YikYakker: Thanks for the warning.

Fan of the GIMP: Some extraterrestrial encounters you might enjoy.

Pic
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_888sp0gvExc/SDDAqi2x3oI/AAAAAAAAAMY/Lzh38JZiqPM/s400/alien-fuckers_07.jpg

And the Japanese thought they were the Bukkake Kings.

http://galacticgirls.com/TGP/Satine_Phoenix/alien_breeder2/images/SatinePheonixAlienBreeder3_0050.jpg

Movie clips
http://galacticgirls.com/TGP/Alien5/BDSM_experiment/index.cgi?sid=1448170

Site
http://galacticgirls.com/index.php

Aries: Great tip! Although I'm not a fan of the consensual sex, there does look to be a decent amount of forced sex.

On another note, anyone know if the producers of antonvideo.com are still responding to emails? I sent them one regarding a custom video request, and haven't heard back. It's been almost a week. They look like they have some good stuff, and I was hoping to get info regarding a custom video. Anyone have any idea if they are still corresponding with customers?

Like I say, I'm sure you meant no harm, but especially after the brouhaha this forum went through not long ago, we just have to choose our words very carefully, okay? You never know who's reading our perverted comments.

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YikYakker: Welcome to the ever-growing Reviews Club. Unless I overlooked it, I believe this is your first-ever published review on this site, so congratulations.

But man, what a pisser that movie wasn't better. The IMDB link you posted has links for the first 5 minutes of the movie (which has the first bondage scene) and also the trailer. Looks like low-budget fun, with some really nice girls. But the cleave gag was pretty pathetic, like you mentioned. The problem is that most filmmakers don't have a clue about proper bondage and gagging, and it shows. We're never gonna get it right unless one of us makes our own movie. Darkroom is doing it, what's the excuse for the rest of us?

The direct link to your review is in my Homepage URL above.

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Sloth: I haven't seen anything from China Bondage at all, except for that impressive daily picture, but I just checked their site and it looks like they carry 4 DVDs for sale. Sounds like it's worth checking out, you think?

1) While the general time frame of their POW experience is Feb 68 (a couple weeks after the Tet Offensive) to Mar 73 (release in Hanoi), I have a roadblock straight off with their capture. I have the episode where McMurphy and K.C. are captured on VHS, and and they got nabbed by the VC when their jeep ran over a punji-stake type trap. I'm either going to go with that, or have them riding in a chopper (sent by one of K.C.'s "friends") and it gets shot down. Either way, their post-capture experience will be nasty.

2) They won't be in the South very long: most '68 and later captures in SVN got hustled up the Ho Chi Minh Trail to NVN pretty quickly. Boonie, Hyers, and Dodger will be trying to find them before they get into Laos; once they're across the border, it's off-limits to them.

3) NVN: first stop is SW of Vinh; here the NVA had a holding camp for people captured in the South and taken north. Their first real interrogation will take place here....then they're moved to a prison about 15 miles SW of Hanoi with the others. Can you say "two plus years of solitary?" Interrogation for confessions, apologies, anti-war statements, etc....all of it very nasty.

4) Hanoi: After the Son Tay Raid (21 Nov 70), all POW camps outside of Hanoi are closed and everyone moved to prisons in Hanoi proper. Our two GIMPs wind up at what the POWs called Plantation Gardens or Citadel, until the bombings of Hanoi in Dec 72 (LINEBACKER II). Their main problem is a group of POWs actively collaborating with the NVN-and they get nailed when the collaborators betray them to the NVA for communicating with other POWs.

5) Hanoi Hilton: All the POWs at Plantation were moved to the Hanoi Hilton on 27 Dec 72 and put in an area of the Hilton separate from the air crews shot down in NVN. They stayed there until the releases.

6) Release: to a ton of publicity) is on 5 Mar 73.

Any comments, feedback, etc. would be appreciated: while I've done some alternate history stuff, this is my first real fanfic (and a GIMP one at that), so be patient, guys.

Jail or Slavery, Part 2 is the sequel to Dungeon Corp's Jail or Slavery, which the forum member formerly known as zee-ef-ex previously reviewed here. In the original, for those of you who crave continuity, petite blond hottie Morgan March was discovered smuggling drugs out of Ogre Kabneched's business. Ogre gave her the choice of submitting to his sexual advances for a day or letting him call the cops. Hence the title, Jail or Slavery. The first video ended with Morgan March tied spread-eagled on a bed, having just been fucked by Ogre, who obviously had no intention of letting her go as was the original agreement.

Part 2 begins with Morgan March asleep, still tied spread-eagled on the bed, in the darkened room. She is still wearing nothing but the black thigh-high stockings that she wore throughout Part 1. She wakes up and struggles helplessly. The camera is at the foot of the bed, so it is a nice POV. Ogre walks back in and kisses her, then goes down on her pussy for a while. He undoes the leather restraints at her slender ankles and wrists, and tells her to lay still with her legs together and arms at her sides, which she does.

Ogre produces a length of white rope and orders her to roll over on her stomach and put her arms behind her back. She is very compliant at this point. He ties her wrists together behind her back, takes a moment to stick his fingers between her legs and apparently into her pussy, then has her climb off the bed. When next we see Morgan, she is curled in the bottom of a large bathtub with her ankles also tied, and her wrists tied to her ankles behind her back. Ogre turns on the water and walks out over Morgan's protests.

Cue dramatic music as the water level rises. Morgan struggles and whimpers. We watch in real time as the tub fills up. Morgan doesn't really sell being terrified that she might drown, but she does a nice enough job of acting scared. She works hard to keep her head above the water, but inevitably slips, which sloshes water into her face or drops her face below the water line briefly. Ogre pulls her out and taunts her, then dunks her head under a few times just to torment her.

In the next scene, Morgan is locked in a small free-standing circular cage with bars that go up about 8 feet probably, still naked except for the black thigh-high stockings. She tries to squeeze out or bend the bars, to no avail. Ogre walks in with leather belts and uses them to fasten her to the front of the cage. Each ankle is belted to a bar, each wrist is belted to a bar, and belts are strapped around her upper arms, elbows, waist, and each thigh. Next, Ogre fingers her pussy, fingers her asshole, spanks her butt, then leaves her bound to the cage for her to struggle uselessly for about two minutes, although she does manage to undo one of the thigh belts. All in all, a fairly boring scene.

Next, Morgan is standing spread-eagled, with a long spreader bar between her ankles and her arms pulled up and apart. Each wrist has a leather cuff that is attached to the ceiling by chains. She looks sensational, still naked with the black stockings and this time she is bit gagged. Ogre walks in and blindfolds her, fingers her pussy again, then walks out. Morgan struggles for a minute. Ogre walks back in with another guy, Michael Kahn, and another naked gal, Ariel Summers, who is locked in the circular cage. The blindfold is taken off and Ogre leaves Michael Kahn to play with Morgan.

Michael Kahn spanks her pussy, gropes and explores her, spanks her ass, squeezes and slaps her tits, pinches her nipples, attaches nipple clamps, attaches pussy lip clamps, and uses a crop on her. Morgan cries out and struggles the whole time, doing a pretty good job of playing the unwilling victim. After about 20 minutes of playing with Morgan, Michael Kahn pulls Ariel Summers out of the cage. While Michael Kahn uses a vibrator on Morgan's pussy, Ariel sucks his cock. Morgan is vibed to orgasm, then the vibrator is held in place against her obviously sensitive pussy. The scene ends kind of weakly, with Morgan still bound standing and Ariel on her knees in front of her.

In the next scene, Morgan is on her back on a table, with her wrists fastened together and her ankles fastened together, and then pulled up into the air. Michael Kahn and Ariel walk in, and Michael Kahn leaves Ariel to have her way with Morgan. Ariel uses an electric wand on Morgan, shocking her all over. There's a lot of taunting and shocking as Morgan jumps and cries out and tells Ariel to stop. When Ariel stops, she pulls out a dildo and fucks herself with it, then forces Morgan to suck it. Altogether a fairly lame scene.

Next up, Morgan is bound arms behind her back, on her knees. Michael Kahn and Ariel walk in and Ariel sucks Michael Kahn's cock again in front of Morgan. Morgan is wearing a spreader gag, so her mouth is forced open. Morgan does a commendable job of showing some fear and trepidation that Michael Kahn is going to force her to suck his cock next. As if. Ariel keeps sucking the entire time, until Michael Kahn is ready to come. At that point, Michael Kahn finishes up by shooting his load into Morgan's wide-open mouth. Well, that was the plan, anyway. Actually, it kind of dribbles down in front of Morgan instead. It would have been so cool if he could have launched a wad into her mouth and down her throat but alas it didn't work out that way. Maybe if he had fucked her throat instead, making her gag. But oh well. A huge missed opportunity.

Finally, Morgan is bound arms behind back, standing with a harness holding her upright, and with a black ball gag. Ogre and Big Bad walk in and proceed to wrap her in clear cellophane wrap, from shoulders to ankles. Once Morgan is encased in clear cellophane, Ogre starts at her ankles and wraps her in silver duct tape while Big Bad starts at her shoulders and duct tapes her from the top downward. Morgan cries and whines the whole time as they talk about shipping her down to Mexico. We watch as they slowly mummify her in duct tape. They leave her standing there mummified and weakly struggling.

In the final scene, the mummified Morgan is shown in the back of an SUV. She is no longer gagged, which makes no sense. It is basically four minutes of Morgan rolling around and crying while she is taunted by Big Bad from off camera (probably from the driver's seat). Morgan is headed for a Mexican whorehouse. (How they are going to get a bound and ungagged blond through the border crossing is a mystery.)

Summary: Morgan March starts out bound spread-eagled in a bed (very briefly), then she is bound in a bathtub as it slowly fills up and she struggles to keep her head above the water. She is belted to a circular cage in a sequence that did nothing for me. Next she is bound in a standing spread-eagle, a position that I really like, but not a lot is done to her except that she is vibed to orgasm. Well, okay, a lot is done to her, but it is all pretty uninspiring. Then she is bound on a table with her wrists and ankles bound together and pulled into the air while Ariel taunts her and shocks her with an electric device. Then Ariel fucks herself with a dildo and makes Morgan suck it afterwards. The shocking part was kind of nice. After that, Ariel is bound on her knees with a spreader gag but the potential is 90% unrealized, since all that Michael Kahn tries to do is shoot a load into her mouth and mostly misses. If you like watching two guys mummify a hot chick in cellophane wrap and then duct tape, the next nine minutes were for you. The last four minutes of a mummified Morgan in the back of an SUV were anticlimactic in the extreme.

The production values for this video were excellent, as Dungeon Corp productions tend to be. This particular video sells for $50 on DVD (although if you buy two titles, they are only $40 each). The sales page is at the link in the first paragraph, on which you can see the DVD box front and back, which has some pictures from the feature. If you join SocietySM, you can also download all of the scenes from this DVD (as well as the scenes from part 1) here.

I am crazy about Morgan March. She is very pretty, very petite, and very slender, although also very shapely, in her own petite and slender way. She also has very small breasts, but since I'm not a huge boob guy, that doesn't bother me a lot. So I enjoyed just watching her naked struggling body. I would have liked it a lot more if something had actually, you know, been done to her. She is a decent actress, so her victim noises were not bad. However, since I didn't really buy the threat, I didn't really buy her as a victim either. This felt too much like consensual role-playing. It is a nice video, with lots of bondage, just barely enough corporal punishment, a few gags, and, sadly, no forced sex. I didn't feel the threat. So although I give the production itself high marks, and if you like Morgan March, you probably would really enjoy it, as a GIMP movie it falls flat. Maybe a C- at best.

I relate to a lot of what you say about being obsessed with bondage at an early age, and not being interested in anything without bondage. However, you absolutely have to keep things consensual. There's no grey area there. IF you are seriously entertaining thoughts of raping someone, you must talk to a sex therapist, someone psychologically trained to deal with sexual obsessions. Even if you are flat broke, you can usually get a good referral to one who charges on a sliding scale. You'll find that you feel better after you get things off of your chest, and talking with an actual person about these things will help keep you grounded in reality, and less likely to act on a criminal impulse.

Good luck. Trust me, you really need to talk to someone. You and the rest of the world will definitely be better off for it.

Ralphus - yeah, these things are worth a look - love today's header as well.

Yik Yakker - I'd heard that "Deception" title before but never bothered to check into it - thanks for that heads up.

John Galt - you know, from your Dungeon Corp review it has all the makings of a good film, once again falling just short of expectations - all too common eh?

Fan of the Gimp - yeah, as is often the case with U.S. marketing techniques, one must have that "caveat emptor" mindset when making Japanese purchses - generally within a day or two after posting cover shots, Video Mayhem will have a short synopsis added - usually accurate but not terribly detailed - wish I could tell you more but never viewed any of those efforts.

Matt - just my little throw in on your project - keep it simple and use the jeep capture scenario - those chopper get downs are brutal, injuries so severe they would probably not survive the journey and they'd be dispatched by Charlie or NVA on the spot - we have other plans for them, no :-)

Brutus - viewed Attackers JBD 074 yesterday and read your review - fully agree with your assessment - that chick was superb in her role and, to me, drop dead gorgeous to boot - not exactly the setting one normally associates with our favorite man in black but seemed to work well in this case.

Stay Well All

http://www.tlaraw.com/feature/10-1221-4555_best-selling-dvds.html?sn=1

I just started shooting RAVAGE THE SCREAM QUEEN. I sent Ralphus a few pics but you can also see them in the RAVAGE gallery on my site. I will add tons more in the coming days/weeks.

On another topic - a poster once posed a question about the Bound Heat series - I forget who and when, or even whether someone eventually addressed that issue. I've sampled some of their wares and, if there is interest, I'll be glad to post a rundown of what the site is about, and maybe even try a few movie reviews. But I'm not sure what category their films fit into - are they mainstream? Or should they have a review category of their own, like ZFX and others? I'd like to hear some thoughts about that.

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John Galt: No doubt, Jail or Slavery, Part 2 is much closer to what I like and I agree that Morgan March is pretty cute. Too bad the movie doesn't have any sense of menace to it.

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On the issue of Japanese live-action tentacle movies, I've also never seen one. But for Aries or anyone else who may be curious, we should note that lovely Maria Ozawa has a tentacle movie coming out next month.

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John Galt: Thanks for another thoughtful and fair review. Morgan March is cute, but once again it looks like unrealized potential. I feel your pain. Some puzzling things in that film, like not using her open mouth for forced oral, even though they had every opportunity. And I actually like mummifying a woman's body with duct tape; I think it's hot. But then to take her away for slavery and remove the gag?...again, what were they thinking? Geez, when in doubt, always gag the bitch! In the context of that final scene, it sounds like a fatal flaw of omission.

BTW, in the link for your official review above, there's a link where you can order the DVD for much less than the $50 you quoted earlier. CD Universe has it for just $14.21.

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YikYakker: I, for one, would welcome reviews of the Bound Heat site and movies. A while back we had a guy who used to sock-puppet here pretending to be different people, all of them praising Bound Heat, when it was just him the whole time. Turns out he was just trying to make money off the affiliate program he was in. It would have been better for him to have just reviewed their stuff on the forum, since an honest and detailed review would have attracted far more attention. I've been to their site and some of their stuff looks intriguing, but I have my doubts about whether most of it is any good.

If we get Bound Heat reviews, I'll start a new category for them in the Reviews section. I don't know if you would consider them mainstream or not, but I think their stuff has its own genre, since they seem to specialize in films with specific elements (lesbianism and women in prison).

I am familiar with Bound Heat, I've purchased a small handful of their movies. Judging from what I have seen of those titles that I have purchased, Bound Heat produces adult themed feature films. I have not even sure if they can even be considered GIMP material, as they are primarily Women In Prison and White Slavery themed films. If anyone wants to take a closer look at their content, they have downloadable trailers of all their movies available on their site. Here is a link to them if anyone is interested.

Bound Heat
Note: The link above goes directly to their video gallery page.

Ralphus: Now that you mention it, I may want to attempt to write up a review of one of the Bound Heat titles I have. I have never written a review, nor have I ever attempted one. To those who have written reviews, got any advice for a first time reviewer?

"A Canadian: More good news, Maria's coming out with a tentacle monster sex movie. This looks like a must see for you, me, Fan of the Gimp and all other Maria and tentacle monster sex fans."

Thanks for the thought. I've definitely got to check this one out.

First Jessica as Barbarella, then Maria in a tentacle monster sex movie. It's said things come in three's. ... I consider this number three. Check this girl out. Her debut was in January 2009. This is one fine Eurasian girl, I'm hoping she ends up on the BDSM path sooner than later.

Name's Saori Hara, scroll to the bottom of the page to see her pic.
http://www.sodc.co.jp/special/sch/top.html

John Galt: No doubt, Morgan March is a hottie. Thanks for the enlightening review of Jail or Slavery, Part 2 (Dungeon Corp, 2007)

You might already be aware of this, but if not:

Her site
http://www.morganmarch.com/default.html

And, some clips of a memorable encounter in the FD.
http://www.tiedforsex.com/2007/morgan_march2/index2.html?nats=CDDRHhVxMB:RS:FUD

Bill Zebub: Congratulations, on BREAKING HER WILL being a #1 seller!!!

Ed: Thanks for the link. BTW, Sexual Slavery = GIMP

Anyway, here is a great clip I've found. Unfortunately, it cuts off just as things get interesting. Anyone have any info on whether this is a movie or a TV show, and where can I find the rest!!

I have some more information that I want to share with readers concerning Bound Heat. I forgot to mention some key details in my last post. Bound Heat's downloadable movies are avaliable either for rental or purchase. They also have an online store where you can buy DVDs of their movies. I don't know anything about the DVD store as I have never bought any of their DVDs. I also don't know much about their downloadable rentals, as I have never used that option.

According to the info provided in the store, rentals are encoded in VHS quality while the purchasable videos are encoded in DVD quality. As to the file sizes and formats, I don't know much about the rentals. The purchasable videos are encoded as Windows Media Video files and average about 1.2 to 1.4 GB in size (you read that right, GB not MB).

Last of all, Bound Heat's downloadable movies are encoded with DRM. The DRM allows you to view the movies as much as you like for a set period of time if they are rentals or an infinite number of times if you purchased them. The DRM will not let you burn them to DVD-R though, so if you want to have them on DVD so you can watch them on your DVD player, you would be better off buying the DVDs from Bound Heat.

I'm going to write up a review of the Bound Heat movie "The Slave Huntress". I am going to start working on it overnight tonight. The rest of you may want to know that I don't use a letter grade type rating system like the rest of the reviewers amoung you. I use a numbered scale rating system, ranging from 1 to 5. My rating system is as follows:

1: Boring
2: Tame
3: Moderate
4: Severe
5: Extreme

I've mentioned this before here and on YouTied. I've seen three Bound Heat titles, or maybe I should say two-and-a-half because footage was duplicated in two of the films. My take is that the production values are high, the women are hot, but the GIMP action is brief, consensual or lame. There's tons of lesbianism, but not nearly enough peril. I am curious to hear what others think. Maybe there's a gem hidden in their catalogue.

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John Galt: Thanks for the great review of "Jail or Slavery Part 2." I was a member of SocietySM quite some time ago. Your pluses and minuses in the review could sum up my feelings about the site. Lots of hot women, good bondage, but many wasted opportunities. Still, I wasn't disappointed.

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Sloth: Glad you enjoyed JBD-074. I really love scenes when the helpless woman tries to fight back, and Syuri Himesaki certainly did a standout job.

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Matt: Sounds like you have a fun project on your hands. It looks like you have a basic outline and plenty of different venues for torture. One question I have concerns the villain(s). Will there be a different villain for each place? Or will it be mainly one sadistic bastard who sort of follows them around. It might be worth thinking about focusing on one key villain to develop his character and make him the most evil person possible (or in our eyes, the real hero.) Just a thought.

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Aries: Thanks for all those links. That babe Saori Hara has got quite the exotic look. She'd definitely look good all tied up.

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Ed wrote: To those who have written reviews, got any advice for a first time reviewer?

First of all, avoid the dark green font. It's tough to read :-) The best advice I can give you is to have fun with it.

Sardu - the guy who posted that clip used to run a bunch of stuff on Youtube - I saw that clip sometime back and if memory serves me well it's from a German TV police series that features female detectives - for the life of me I can't recall the name.

Ed - as Brutus said just have fun with it - make it your own and write it as you see fit - but yeah, avoid the green.

Bill Zebub - congrats on your film - see, no need for the gratuitous gore - works better without I think.

A Canadian - so if Maria Ozawa is doing a tentacle thing next month me thinks we will be getting an A Canadian review on same shortly thereafter.

Stay Well All

There are drugs that suppress the libido (they **help** but do not cure pedophiles. Jake, if you feel the way you do, **PLEASE** talk to a mental health specialist about them.

I've seen three Bound Heat titles, or maybe I should say two-and-a-half because footage was duplicated in two of the films. My take is that the production values are high, the women are hot, but the GIMP action is brief, consensual or lame. There's tons of lesbianism, but not nearly enough peril. I am curious to hear what others think. Maybe there's a gem hidden in their catalogue.

Brutus: Sounds like the one-and-a-half movie you viewed was "Caligula's Spawn, Parts 1 & 2", which is essentially one movie split into two short ones. Your description of Bound Heat productions is spot on. I would just add that often the nudity is enhanced by well-devised lighting techniques that dim yet do not obscure the views, and also by wetness, such as sweat, water, oil etc. which makes the hot bodies glisten nicely.

Some on this board might be interested in their newest, "Collector's Edition 2: Art of the Whip", which is basically a compilation of whipping scenes from most of their films. But before you buy (or rent), you may want to wait for my forthcoming review so you can make up your own minds about what the compilation offers.

I am working on writing the review for The Slave Huntress now. I am going to work on it a little at a time, probably three or four paragraphs worth per session. I'll post it in a few days. I also have Caligula's Spawn 1 and Caligula's Spawn 2. I may also review them later on down the road unless YikYakker or someone else beats me to them.

I mean there's no denying that the women in the movies are hot as hell, but I've never had a single one of their video clips even half tempt me to actually spend any money there. 90 Minutes of all that lame violence just doesn't sound exiting at all.

Seriously, how many "real life" acts of sexual violence do you hear about where a Woman is the aggressor? (NO I'M NOT ENDORSING REAL LIFE VIOLENCE, JUST ILLUSTRATING A POINT.)

Hell, the only female aggressor I can even think of would be Elizabeth Báthory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bathory) and she died in the year 1614 for Christ's sake. Her attacks weren't even sexual. She was just a twisted bitch who thought bathing in women's blood would keep her young.

That's why I always just get bored in movies when the assailant is a woman, because for the most part, women just aren't wired that way, and certainly the women pretending to do it in these videos aren't. Yes, you have your scene queens who are into the whole S&M discipline horse shit, but that's even boring with a Male being the dom.

Nope, for me a movie isn't even slightly Gimp worthy unless the attacker is a man, period.

HOWIE