During the, um, hiatus, I watched some of the videos on that site, and found some noteworthy clips under the "Kidnapped" section. Two items that I would particularly recommend are: 1) Jogger in Peril, and 2) Major John Babes Kidnapped.

I get the sense that the Major John fellow in my second recommendation is someone we should know about, although I had never heard of him before.

Within America's borders, you're fortunate. Even with the Bible thumpers running things in the White House, you still have a constitutional right to free speech that is occasionally upheld in your courts. And porn is a big enough business in the U.S. that you can fund organizations such as the Free Speech Coalition, which fights for free speech for everyone, not just those in the majority whose views are accepted within "mainstream" America.

In other countries, like Canada, we're not so fortunate. Freedom of speech isn't a recognized right here, and it's difficult to take censorship fights to court because the fringe groups that take on these challenges don't have the same resources as government. Indeed, in Canada, the governments usually try to fight these cases by dragging them out in the courts and by running up the costs, hoping the other side will be forced to quit when the finances run out. In my view, the government knows it can't win on the merits of its arguments, so it usually doesn't want the case to be heard.

And so on. Yes, I know I'm a little too fond of my soap box, but it is frustrating.

Good luck in the battle with the courier companies, but I fear it's a losing battle, since you are often shipping to countries where your material is illegal under the so-called "obscenity" laws.

I notice there's a few producers on this board, so I'm hoping someone might be able to help me out with this question. I hope it's not off topic.

I'm about to shoot a short film, but in rehearsals, I discovered that the actress is allergic to the adhesive in duct tape. The script calls for her to be gagged with it, so does anyone know of any hypoallergenic alternatives to duct tape?

Ballgags and anything that doesn't create a watertight seal probably won't work, because the character needs to be submerged in water for a short period, and I'm concerned about safety.

Thanks in advance for any help.

As Ralphus knows, I once had a producer offer to ship me a free sample of his latest movie, if I would agree to write one of my long-winded reviews of the film. I turned it down because of my concerns about Canada Customs, and potential longer-term problems at the border.

I just checked saveonav.com, and it looks like their website will soon be switching over to something called javparadise.com. The new site promises better service, etc.

That's all well and good, but an advance look at the javparadise.com site suggests to me (based on the shipping costs) that javparadise.com is located in the U.S. With the end of saveonav.com, which is based in Canada, this will essentially mean no more Attackers movies for me.

Damn, now I'm really pissed off. I guess I better get one last order in while I still can.

Here's Shelby...short segment of a longer clip where the massage becomes invasive.....and anal..... This chick is a knock out!

http://www.powershotz.com/thumbupass.mpg

ps...I'll find another shipping company that is more interested in its share holders than in kissing government ass. Keep ordering! Lawyers are expensive.

Hey guys:

About a week ago I had been looking to put something promotional up when I found I couldn't post. After several tries I realized the pic wasn't changing and no one else was posting either.

A quick email confirmed that Dreambook was down. I wanted to post when the site went back up, but before I could get around to it, the damn dreambook software died.

Good messageboard software is hard to find. Also since Ralphus makes no $$$ off this forum, an alternative free resource is unlikely. I guess we will have to live with dreambooks' problems.

Sadly I have nothing else significant to say, so I guess on with the promotion.

For a long time now my site was a mix of new design and an older design. I couldn't seem to get the webmaster to move on this, so I took it back over myself. I am busy reformatting the site to have a single "look". Previous members will know what I mean. Newer members will hopefully never see the old style pages at all (there are stil some there though :{).

Also I have redesigned the tour pages to better reflect the site content and I have added a little discussion page in the members section. It is moderated via email to me, but it is available.

Hopefully gimpers know that members of my site receive a 25% discount on my dvd's. Along that vein, non-members will be happy to learn that on a rotating basis I will be offering three dvd items for only $19.95 each. The three titles will change each and every month. You can see what's on sale at http://www.boundanddelivered.com.

Wenona was here last week, more for a visit than a shoot (I have known her almost since she first got into the biz), but we did do a couple of interesting scenes that took advantage of her limberness. I also completed a second shoot with Madison Young. I had a great first shoot with her and she can really put across the right look in the videos.

Well that's all for now. Glad to see the GIMP's back up, hope it stays up for 24 hours at least!

~Dan

I'm curious what answer Film Guy will get to his question, if any. Here is another question for the producers who are able and willing to share...

Are scenes typically FULLY scripted? I've been watching several flix recently, especially Dan Hawke stuff (Dan, you ARE the man), and either the actresses are good at acting or the surprise in their eyes is sometimes genuine.

For example, is the arrangement usually, "Okay, in this scene I'm going to tie you up arms over head, gag you, and then do stuff to you" (with some flexibility as to what the "stuff" ultimately consists of) or is it more exactingly described and plotted out? I'm just curious, thanks if you can answer. And thanks for making such great art.

zee-ef-ex

I know the frustration you had for the last week, my site at xxxgroups was down for a day and a half last week too. But that's the price we pay for having free web sites.

See that was all leading up to a shameless plug (link above) for my group. Been doing some 70's stuff like "The Candy Snatchers" (I know this is one of the Midget's favorites), "Tombs of the Blind Dead" and "Night of the Seagulls". Check it out there are caps from over 300 mainstream movies (and it's all free).

I am happy with what Steve is doing as far as preview and insights into models like Victoria and Serene. It is really nice to know what the ladies are like in particular and their mindset. Thanks, Grey

At some point, I will have to purchase some of his DVDs.

Thanks for the posts with Shelby. Great idea with the split screen. When you watch it a number of times (believe me I have) it is clear that when your thumb goes up that great ass, you have her total attention. As soon as it comes out, she relaxes somewhat. My suggestion: the girl needs more penetration to keep her focused.

I hope this one shows up ons a DVD at my local rental. If she has trouble with the suggestion, remember to let her know that practice, practice, practice makes perfect.

If you're thinking of patenting that idea, though, sorry, man, someone beat you to it. Check out the link above for more kinky plush toys. If I were wealthy and had money to piss away, I would probably buy the bear with the ball gag. How about the one tied to the torture rack...a steal at only $100.

Hank Hobbs: Good to see you're still cranking out more new stuff...including Penelope Pace's classic suspended whipping scene from ZFX's Guilty. There's some other ZFX scans there, too. Stills from Rick's stuff is usually very hard to find online, so everyone should grab 'em...they're all free. I'm not a fan of xxxRated groups (I never get their e-mails, for one thing), but you have a treasure trove of goodies on your group, so it's worth wading though to add to one's collection.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of The Candy Snatchers; it's a real rare treat that not a lot of people know about. For a long time, it was only available as a blurry bootleg, but they recently reissued it in a pristine new DVD print, which Hank obviously used to make his caps. That film is filled with bondage, even bondage rape, which means if I show caps from it, I could go to jail! More on that later.

It's the story of a young teenager who gets kidnapped, but her father won't pay the ransom, so they have to keep her tied up even longer than anticipated, including keeping her buried alive in an underground coffin. BTW, this movie has probably the most bizarre (and downbeat) shocking ending of any movie I've ever seen. Track down the DVD and check out the movie...it's a good one.

A Canadian: Major John is actually fairly well-known among the bondage community. I previously ordered a couple of his DVD sets a few years back. Most of his content is milder than what I normally get into, but there's some good stuff in his comps. He has access to a lot of mainstream TV scenes that are near impossible to find anywhere else. Want to see a young and cute Kelly Ripa bound and gagged years before she was ever with Regis? Go see Major John.

film guy: What's your movie about? Give us details! Did you write it yourself?

Regarding an alternative to duct tape, years ago when I lived with my girlfriend and used to tie her up regularly, I would buy that white medical tape that used to be fairly easy to find. I'm pretty sure it's hypoallergenic. But to be honest, I haven't really seen it much in the drug stores lately. I'm sure there are places that still carry it, though. Just don't make the mistake I once made and ask the clerk if they carry any "mouth tape"

Seriously, I'm rather picky about what makes a good gag. Unless it's a really thick one, most cleave gags don't do it for me. A chick can easily talk though a thin piece of cloth in her mouth. Ballgags are effective, but yeah, not a lot of bad guys are going to use a ballgag on their victims in real life situations. They are showing up more in movies and TV than they used to, though.

My favorite gag is duct tape with mouth packing...still the best and most effective gag out there, as well as giving us the added bonus of improving the looks of your victim. Check out my Homepage URL for an example of how a piece of duct tape can instantly make a hottie like Jessica Alba even hotter (although the tears help, too).

Let's highlight your question in yellow and see if we can get some responses:

Flash Poll: Gags -- how important is the actual use of? Tape gags, ballgags, cleave gags, ace bandages, hand gags, or none at all?

This is a very interesting question, and I'm sure a lot of you have opinions. Post away...let's get some feedback, guys.

Ralphus, your site, you can do what you want, but: a) There is a lot of stuff there which is otherwise completely unavailable in the USA. This means there is no theft, even if you are going to argue in absolute favor of copyright laws -- whoever DOES "own" it certainly isn't losing anything if they aren't making it available, for whatever reason -- legal strictures or just lack of interest in promoting it. "Savage Fury" is a particularly obvious case in point.

b) I certainly did not detail *how* to do it, beyond the link to SF. I didn't even link to Ed2k. There are a lot of things to learn before you can be particularly resourceful, for example, learning how to recognize the right films in Japanese even if you don't read it.

c) What the heck do you think Video Mayhem is doing? I seriously doubt it's completely above board, and you had a link to them right at the top. That's not a complaint, just making note of how ridiculous it sounds when you make such a claim.

d) I also detailed a site which should be of particular interest to anyone interested in Japanese films, even if they still choose to buy from VM, they will have a far better idea via that site of what they seek than VM's modified names and shorter descriptions (and no pictures) provides.

e) I indicated things to look for in Japanese films -- which is relevant no matter WHERE you seek to obtain it from.

In short, the post was only MARGINALLY about "stealing" -- and THAT is only because you CAN pirate stuff via that method. As a matter of fact, I generally advised against it, I believe, noting that MUSIC and MOVIES would get the RIAA and the MPAA on your back, sooner or later.

I didn't think it was necessarily original; i was more of an overflow from tying my girlfriend. And I notice that none of their bears are hog-tied (very easy) or have a rope-gag (very hard to keep from slipping). But it was fun, and I'm glad you dug it.

Sorry, greyducttape, but I like to see the girl's mouth while she's being whipped, tortured, raped or whatever. Especially since I'm into asphyx, not seeing that wide open mouth, gasping for air just doesn't cut it for me. Since I'm also look for more fantasy than reality, I don't mind the the attacker "conveniently" has a ball-gag. He also has plenty of rope, too! Why not put some it to good use and push her tongue back into her mouth with a tight rope-gag?

Video Mayhem deals exclusively with Japanese and other foreign films that are not bound by US copyright restrictions. What they are doing may not be morally right in some people's eyes, but it is not illegal, and I don't know of any "legitimate" source for acquiring Japanese movies in this country.

If you do know of another website for Japanese films, please post again and make sure that any specific links you post are workable ones. You seem to know a lot about Japanese movies and that's something a number of us are curious about, so we do value what you have to say here. I know your intentions were honorable, so I'm sorry about deleting your previous post.

Certainly, some people are taking real risks. I was impressed with one series -- and for the life of me, I can't remember the name of it -- where the women got punched and slapped around while they were getting screwed. It was all consensual, but some of the hits the women took were pretty hard (damn, I wish I could remember the name of the movies).

It may very well be that the definition of GIMP material may have to be broadened at some point to include movies made by traditionally vanilla producers.

This is in response to the poll about the importance of gags.

My personal opinion is, gags are EXTREMELY important! Put it this way:

If any of you were to kidnap a girl in real life, would you want her screaming her head off? I think not!!!!

Bondage is all about helplessness, and a girl isn't truly helpless unless she can't scream for help!

As far as my choice for an effective gag, it goes like this. Both her sweaty socks crammed deep in her mouth, and then several wraps of duct tape wrapped tightly over her mouth and around her head!

I doubt she would be heard in the very next room.

The movie series that I was referring to was called Donkey Punch (see attachment in my URL), and I'm not sure if these movies are still available. I think there was a bit of controversy over the way they combined sex and violence.

I just got done watching (and enjoying) several of Steve Power's DVD's, including Mia's Abduction, and I'm continuously impressed by pic's on his powershotz site. Shelby looks like a babe. As a person who is not in the business, it just blows my mind that Steve, Rick, Dan, sgtmajor, et. al. can round up so many unbelievably good looking young women to participate in these gimp productions. I, for one, would love to hear more from any of the above about how you find these girls and/or how they find you. I'd also really be interested in what factors you believe contribute to whether they do lots of work or make it a one time event.

Thees van Kemp: I personally love it when the bad guy humiliates his bound victim by writing degrading things on her body. Anything to increase the humiliation factor is a good thing in my book. The first time I ever saw it done on video was when a pre-ZFX Chandra Sweet was left tied up on her coffee table in an old Scarry Video, which is long since out of print by now, I'm sure. The villain, played by Gary Roberts (yeah, the same one you're thinking of) wrote "FUCK ME" across her chest and left her there to be discovered.

It's kinda late right now, but I have some stills like that I can share with the group when I can track them down. Here's one example in my Homepage URL.

Here is my opinion folks... If there is going to be NO ballgag, or bandages, etc... the girl being tied up must be crying or yelling, or expressing her discomfort... I cant imagine a girl being tied up and just standing there saying NOTHING... I like some realism in my bondage and am not into "consenting bondage".

Now, the use of a ballgag usually means the kidnapper does not want to hear a peep from the girl, which is what I always want... you have to hear a moan or a whine from time to time (excellent example: Christina Anderson in the South of the Border series).

Now, A ballgag would be my fave, just because of its uncomfortability (is that even a word?) :) Tape gags would be my second... but all in all, if the actress wont bother complaining or crying while being tied up, put a ballgag in her to make us believe she would be complaining or crying... like I said, realism bondage is for me. Hope this opinion is worth it!

Danny

If you want to see two models truly enjoy and become seriously aroused during a scene...check out the members only clip on powershotz.com that was posted today. In the scene....Bryce is doggie style bound on a bench and dildo'd....while Shelena kneels handcuffed in front of her....and comforts her during the intense penetrations and spanking. Then Shelena is dominated, heavily fondled, and made to bark, grunt and squeal. If you watch Shelena's face during the 7 minute clip....you'll be able to tell that she's loving every second of it. Shelena is one of the most flexible models that I've worked with. Her back arch is incredible!

In fact, I remember reading that comment when I first saw this video clip, but at the time I just assumed he had moved on to something else and was no longer making films.

It is sad when someone's life is cut short like that.

These last two are a little different; they're actually from TV shows (hence the lack of nudity).

I hope you like them.

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http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52528_PartySlave_p07_437lo.jpg

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Where are the brave filmmakers willing to make a good grade B movie with lots of forced sex and violence? Where are the actresses who are willing to bare their souls by baring their flesh being manhandled? This is the perfect route to movie stardom for someone like Jessica Simpson. She can't act, but I'd pay 10 bucks to see her legs forced wide open by a guy in a ski mask. Does anybody else besides me miss the sexploitation era?

Hey Gimpers:

First off I wanted to echo some of what Steve said. The way to get models is to pay them. However, also as Steve pointed out, you need to be able to relate to them as people. You don't last long in this business w/o making the models feel comfortable during the shoot.

I know many would like to believe that models do this primarily because they are into it, but it is a business. That said I do believe that models who do bondage work like that type of work on some level. They could make the same money doing many other types of nude work or much more for doing straight porn. So if they do this work they are either into it on some level or they enjoy the challenge of it.

Still getting naked and being bound by a relative stranger for posting on the internet or video for all to see is a not just a matter of being "into it". That is where the $$$ come into it. So you should all appreciate the models who do this for our pleasure.

zee-ef-ex asked about how "free form" the scenes I shoot are. In almost all cases the model has some idea of what the scene will entail. I might say "your hands will be tied behind your back and a crotch rope will force you into an arch." However sometimes they are surprised by the intensity. Also they may not know everything that will happen. I may do something in the moment w/o planning it, like add some nipple clips or incorporate some flogging or whatever. So in that sense there is an element of surprise.

Finally to comment on GIMP interesting porn, there is an awful lot of it out there. Usually featuring elements of submission. I find this particular true of oral flicks, like "Throat Gaggers". However these are very hit or miss as not all releases in the line are of the same quality (in GIMP terms). I recommend T/G's 3-6 (if my memory is right).

Another interesting series is Meatholes. Once again, I found 1-4 particular strong, but recent additions have been weaker and the last one released (7, 8?) seemed to "jump the shark" altogether. However I will still look at the next one in hopes this is a fluke.

Glad the board is still up. At least I think it is, we'll see what happens when I hit the button!

~Dan

Who wins here, I wonder? It is certainly not the guy who forks over the hard earned bucks. The message being -- please make good dvds with effective bondage and don't make excuses like the adminsitration made me do it. It is getting old and I've had friends who have bought stuff for years that are not buying anything because a lot of stuff is just too lame.

I like what Steve has done lately with Rayna, Brandi, Shelby, and Jewel. Great models, lots of barefeet, and good emotional response. Keep it up! Grey

Thanks in advance

There is a difference between hogtied and sex&sub. Hogtied is more a "potpourri" of bondage shoots/clips with elaborate ropework and gagwork. There are A LOT of available shoots when you join since the site has been around for several years.

Sex&sub is more focused on domination, and in particular, some kind of penetration with bondage involved. Although cheaper, there are not as many shoots available when compared to hogtied since they only went online a year or 2 ago.

I'm currently a member of sister site whippedass since I like the many arms/wrists overhead (AOH) shoots.

Hope that helps.

The sites also offer a "video tour", a compilation of several eps.

http://hogtied.com/updates/full0.php

http://sexandsubmission.com/updates/full0.php

The Video Tours are at the top and are downloadable.

Detective chronicles the name anyway was probably inspired by the old True Detective magazines. The videos and photosets are your typical run-of-the-mill softcore bondage stuff but the quality of the models is definitely first class. One thing I like is that there are a number of "forced stripping" scenes. The models pose well in the picture sets with pleading looks but the videos are poorly acted and are low resolution. You can also buy their stuff via a token system and it looks like it is part of the "sweetties.com" family of sites. The other sites do not feature that much nudity though and suck in general.

Another good picture set is "Candace Daylee Bikini Removed Kidnapher’s Basement Classic" where you have the model come home get tied behind the back and then her string bikini is removed. This girl appears in a number of other photosets and vids on the site. This site has been around for a couple years now so they have a sizeable body of work and it's updated every couple of days. The number of times it's updated might be misleading though since the episodes are broken up into about 4 parts with each part being an update. So is it worth it? Good? Bad? Shit? What? Well just go on over and check it out. All of the sites content can be seen by previewing the updates so what you see is what you get.

Having worked for both sites I cna offer some insight on the Hogtied v. Sex and Submission debate. I am not a porn guy I am a bondage guy, meaning that I am good at bd/sm type games. I tried SS once and the members did not like me at all. Reason I am not a Mark Davis Look alike, not even close. A guy like Mark is a porn player who knows how to fuck in front of a camera. He is just now starting to learn the ropes as it were. Hogtied is done by doms who love bondage and use porn as a secondary. While SS is just the exact flip side of the game.

Both site offer a great chance to see hot women getting put through the bd/sm game. I would do SS angain but they are not interested. Hogtied will have me again so I will stay with what I am good at for the time being. S and S, was the most challanging site I have ever worked for, rigging and fucking was real work. Its different in the controlled world of ones mind. But in a guy's mind when he is at his computer he does not have to worry about camera angles or hurting a model or a director or a PA or a still camera guys saying hold it please give me a better angle. I learned a great deal working for that site. I learned I have a lot more respect for porn actors than I had thought.

Additionally, I would like to see her gagged with duct tape and bound in various positions on the bed being stretched to her limits and spread finally for a good pussy pummeling. Finally, no shoes and hose with plenty of closeups of her cunt and feet.

All of this is being done from time to time in Steve's features and I hope to see more of the bedroom bondage kind! Grey

If you're going to join, I would probably just join one of them to avoid duplication of content. And personally, I wouldn't join myself, since I don't like streaming. I like to save what I pay for.

Vince: I, too, miss the sexploitation era, those 70s drive-in classics that were mostly crap, but we watched them to see nudity, rape and violence. It seems like those are a dying breed, or if not, I just don't seem to hear much about them anymore. About the only GIMP-worthy mainstream films being made today appear to be horror films, and too often, they combine the bondage scenes with blood and snuff.

I haven't seen a good mainstream rape scene for a long time. What's wrong with today's filmmakers? They need to get back to the basics. There shouldn't be any shortage of young, pretty actresses that are trying to make their break into movies. Use them and abuse them for our benefit, and they can earn their SAG cards along the way. Exploitation sells. Rape and bondage will always have an audience!

Thanks again to all!

I did join Squeelsbondage and downloaded a few of their clips and found them to be OK, probably as good or better than many of the similar outfits on the net.

They attempted to offer some sort of plot, some of the girls were reasonably attractive and they included bondage with sexual penetration. I don't believe they all include sexual penetration, but I chose my clips by reading each synopis carefully and studying the pics.

S&S is also a well run site. Mark and others are very good at what they do. The focus is a bit of domination with insertion being the end goal. The oral involvement is hot.

It's pretty much up to your own tastes. You could sample them for a month. It's easy to cancel at anytime.

My only reservation is that the flogging scenes tend to be rather short. Matt loves to use a short whip. They are very careful to not mark the models, since they usually go to another site to work.

Ah yes, missing the old Insex site. We will probably never see the likes of that again.

I wish that there was a TV network that was devoted strictly to bondage and rape. I know I would be glued to it 24/7. I think others will as well. I don't think that idea is so outrageous. If you can have a gay network, an animal network or one on golf, why not a one for extreme sex fantasies? In fact, I bet we could come up with original programing for it that would be better than any of the mainstream networks. What do you guys say?

Sure, it would have made money, and so would your network idea. But face it. What we like will never be accepted by the public. If most people knew the dark shit we were into, they would try to throw us in jail. That's the way a lot of people think. It's the way our own president thinks.

Another reason why rape-themed movies like I Spit On Your Grave don't get shown on cable...they are probably too rough for your average John and Mary Beercan. Yeah, we may love them, but it's just not PC to show movies like that anymore. Especially with this ultraconservative government we're being forced to live with now. This is the same government that forced MasterCard and VISA to change their rules and refuse to deal with websites that feature bondage content. Like Natasha Flade mentioned last month, there's no US bank that will even touch bondage nowadays. Scroll down to read the article "White House Trying to End Porn" that Natasha posted on July 16. This is some damn serious stuff, and it's affecting everyone who tries to produce material like this for a living. Bush's goal is to put them out of business, and now he's going after the Internet in a big way.

Rick Masters alerted me of this new law that just got passed a week or so ago. It affects this board, too. Read this page here: http://xbiz.com/article_piece.php?cat=40&id=16280

And Part 2 is right here: http://xbiz.com/article_piece.php?cat=40&id=16305

The 2257 law has been expanded so that it now includes "secondary producers", which means you and me. Before, whoever created the material was required to keep extensive records on the performers who participated in the shoot. But now, anyone who places one of those pictures on his website has the same burden of responsibility that the original producer has. So if I posted one of my daily pictures on the board and the feds came knocking, I could go to jail for 5 years. No joke. It is now a 5-year felony for posting a sexually related picture on a website without proper records.

For instance, those caps I ran last week of the rape scene from The Candy Snatchers? Illegal. The laws have been expanded to simulated stuff, too. If you show caps from movies like A Clockwork Orange, Death Wish, even The Passion of the Christ, you would need 2257 records. And not just rape themes, either. They have essentially outlawed being able to post any material of actual humans engaged in actual or simulated sex unless you have 2257 records. As Rick said, watch the Internet dry up, at least here in the US. How many people are willing to go to jail for 5 years for posting a picture? A picture! Sounds incredible, doesn't it? Guess what...it's the law now. Bush signed it into law July 27. It appears to be in effect right now.

I asked Rick what chances we have of it being overturned. While he feels it's unconstitional, he doesn't think anyone is going to challenge it, at least for now. He also said that since Bush has stacked the federal court system with his chosen religious nut judges, not to mention the Supreme court, it probably will be upheld.

"Things ain't looking good for the home team," he wrote. "I knew this was coming if GWB got in again, that's why I was stumping hard for Kerry, but its too late now. *shrug* "Those who would trade liberty for security shall have neither....'"

Okay, I know it's a bummer, and most people don't want to talk about political subjects, but damn it, this is important stuff. It could mean the end of this site, as well as a huge portion of the Internet. I certainly hope we get a few comments from our readers on this subject. I definitely don't want to go to jail for 5 years for trying to run a free website.

My absolute favorite AOH clip from whippedass is the one where Sasha Sparks (a modern-day Victoria Vixxen IMO) is stripped, flogged, and fondled by some blond dom. Annie Cruz did a good one recently where she's cuffed AOH and molested with a billy club. Whippedass is good for a good percentage of AOH clips.

As far as the other sites go, hogtied and waterbondage also have some AOH winners. Although hogtied may have more of them, waterbondage has some that look really good because the girls are not only stretched out well with AOH, but they also glisten after getting hosed down with water. My 2 favorite AOH clips from waterbondage involve GIMPer Sgt. Major mistreating Sasha Sparks and a model by the name of Trina. Hope that helps.

The above URL is a sister site to those previously mentioned, giving behind-the-scenes footage from the "Hogtied" stable.

Free preview mpegs from BehindKink are available at: www.bondagester.com.

The Sarge gets a look in, too!

I think the main difference for me anyway is that Fantasy is really better than reality. What goes on in your mind when you are at the computer is a one man show (not trying to be funny here). Before I did S and S I thought it would be a blast. After I had finished I thought to myself, well this was the best I could do Fuck it anyway. I never finish a hogtied shoot that way.

On the Barrix we are doing more dicksucking or forced oral. This seems to be more easy for me because its on my turf and I choose how the scene is going to go. Don't get me wrong I still think to myself that I am a very lucky guy. But when I was sitting in the AIM testing office getting tested for S and S STD's like all must who do the site, I thought well this is not quite the same as my computer, I am not sure if I like it.

You need to check out the latest powershotz.com dvd. Good Time Girls. It's got a simulated R scene and some good scared girl acting. The French blonde, Rayna has the nicest ass I have ever seen! Her boobs sag a bit but that ass and those legs need to be carved in marble.

I looked at the cover for Good Time Girls. The blonde girl is hot but WTF? How the hell did you get Howard Stern to appear in the movie with her?

I think the whole concept of joining the site and then paying for the video is over the top. I guess if you want to see it you have to pay the price. Its like an old mainstream SS movie with scenes that you always wanted in those movies and never got. I think the old movie directors know that us gimpers were out there and they would just take to the edge and it would be over.

So on a one to ten, I would give the action a 6. If anyone else has seen the video I would like to hear what they thought.

If anything, it would be harder for a parent to keep their precious children from magazines than a TV set showing adult content. I think if there were a maverick willing to have a sexploitive channel, the market will keep it safe for some period of time because as you wrote, there's an audience for it. Perhaps that somebody should be the right wing billionaire kook Rupert Murdoch who made FOX news what it is not because of its journalistic integrity (snicker), but because he put hot babes in short skirts reading the news. As to these movies being extreme. Please, "The Sopranos" has more violence than some of these movies and "Desperate Housewives" isn't a show I'd recommend to the Sunday school crowd.

As to the more serious aspects of the politics of this, it's a shame you and I and anybody else with this wish to post could face jail time. However, even that isn't totally hopeless, but it depends on us defending our and everyone else's rights to their civil liberties. If enough of us band together and become active we can reverse this law and make these lawmakers concentrate on actual issues that affect this country like homeland security and healthcare, not whether I have 2227 records that Jennifer Aniston is over 18. Remember, these senators and congressmen are men too and they do a lot worse than looking at naked pictures of young women.

However, as I said, it depends on us presenting a united front. I'm probably going to get negative reactions from fellow members, but I'm disappointed that other than the two of us, no other GIMPers are discussing this. It's not sinking in that this forum could cease to exist if conservative Republicans continue to hold on to power. Your opinions on this are welcome.

It strikes me there should be opportunities to promote change. The Republicans are vulnerable. Many small-c conservatives are pissed off with the Bush government's sky-high deficits and, to a lesser extent, the neo-Conservative "moral" agenda. Ever since the Terri Schiavo fiasco, the Bush government has been in trouble, and it's mostly believed to be the result of falling support among Republican voters.

I'm no expert on the politics in your country, but with mid-term elections coming up, you would think there is an opportunity to promote a new agenda. Unfortunately, I don't know who would champion that new agenda. Where's Larry Flynt when we need him?

I would be curious to know from Ralphus or others what, if anything, the Free Speech Coalition might be doing to try to influence the mid-term elections.

Then there are the big box websters like Yahoo, Myspace, and others that want to limit their liablility -- Is Myspace now more liable for those that use their webspace or is it the users of the webspace that actually post -- let's say 24's Jack Bauer's daughter in bondage -- when the age can be corroborated on IMDB. What constitutes a violation? Is a pic of a gagged face a violation or is only full body bondage a violation. Is fully clothed or lingerie bondage a violation or does it have to be full nudity to constitute a violation. Does it have to involve intercourse to be a violation or is the act of bondage a violation?

I hearken back to the movie "See No Evil" where just about anyone can rent the movie where eyes are spooked out. That is apparently decent viewing as considered by the Senators and Congressmen. How many dems voted for this versus how many repubs? I would like to see more research to these important questions. It is interesting that during these times when just about everything is getting out of the range of affordability -- housing and especially gas of $4/gallon is around the horizon -- still about 40% of our brothers and sisters are content with the way things are and the people who are running things -- and there is a faction of those that are glad to have the "Rapture" tomorrow.

Until we get our brothers and sisters to understand how our futures, our environment, our jobs, our quality of life, our freedom, just about everything is being damaged by the powers that be -- and how we must join others in issues other than what concerns us here -- WE ARE DOOMED. We must reach out to everyone we know -- one at a time and convert and get their involvement and commitment before there is a premature end to everything that matters. This site is valuable and the reason for its existence transcends any pictures -- so if the day comes that we have to go pictureless -- let it be then -- because the power of the word will afford our continuance for the quest of excellence and what is just.

So I ask of each and everyone here -- start tomorrow -- start talking and get answers -- share them -- and lets make a difference -- 2 strikes -- you know what a third one means.

Thanks for your anticipated consideration, Grey

Thanks for answering my last post. In saying that fantasy is better than reality, you've summed up the reason why we're Gimpers not rapists. As someone who really gets off on the idea of rape and dominance, I've done some reading into the psychological profile of real-life rapists. So often for them it's when they cross over and try to put fantasy into reality that they realise it never works out the way they've imagined, and the serial guys keep trying to make it "perfect", when it can only ultimately disappoint.

The movie "The Piano Teacher" was a brilliant and poignant examination of this theme, though from the masochist's viewpoint. Here is a woman who's harboured unfulfilled fantasies of being "raped" and "hurt" in the ways she wants to be "raped" and "hurt" for years, only to spill it to a young man who's too stupid to understand that she wants it done in the context of a sexual fantasy fulfilled, not as an act of real violence. So when he brutally, thuggishly rapes her the scene is almost unwatchable. The cruelty she inflicts on others is partly frustration and partly because sadistic urges and masochistic urges often co-exist in the same person.

From reading your previous posts, I understand you are in a relationship with a beautiful woman (Wenona?) who shares those fantasies and acts them out with you. As we say down under, "good on ya!" Like you said, you're a lucky guy!

The two models traveled together to the shoot. The video focuses on the cute blonde, the older gal is also kidnapped in the video and gets tied up too. You can't please all of the people...all of the time....However the Howard Stern babe has a certain appeal to a certain consumer base.

Regarding 2257 legislation, we didn't let it happen...it happened...without our input. The fact of the matter is that if the feds were interested in cracking down on underage porn they would ask for our help, rather than impose legislation on us. The legislation was designed to give the government a loophole on which to nail us....if they ever want to come snooping around.

There is no lawyer or public official that can tell me what is legal and what is not legal in terms of scene or content. I've asked top entertainment attorneys about it. Everything is legal....until someone files a complaint. Once a complaint is filed....you get your day in court. But you have already lost. The attorney fees put most of us out of business on day one. Pleading guilty and agreeing to shut down is often the best way out.

Hot shot prosecutors wishing to make a name for themselves in a conservative community can attack at any time. However, juries are not likely to find an act obscene if they can watch something worse on mainstream TV. So most DA's are realizing the futility of attacking porn in court. They don't like to lose and waste gov't resources on unwinnable cases.

However with legislation they can create an umbrella of fear and in that respect keep a lid on us. They also create an environment where banks and credit card companies live in fear of prosecution, so the banks create guidelines that allow them to shut us down without notice. No single organization is at fault. Together the credit card companies and the gov't conspire to pressure the industry, using a combination of undefined terms and regulations.

It's a fascist state in which porn producers operate. We don't share the same rights as other industries and are persecuted at every turn.....often by our best customers. We live in an environment of fear. When people tell me they want my job...I tell them to stay the hell out of the industry if they want a life.

Don't let Howard Stern in the most recent Powershotz release scare you away from seeing Rayna abducted, hog tied, ball gagged, chloroformed, stripped and dominated! Besides....I'm not near as picky as I used to be...and that Howard Stern babe's ass doesn't look all that bad....when she's tied up and gagged!

As Canadian said, our best hope is to elect more Democrats in the mid-term elections. Otherwise, our only option is to make our voices known. We are adults with adult tastes who make adult choices and do not wish to impose them on anybody else unlike the Religious Right. I actually believe there are more of us than them because not everyone goes to church, but we all have had sex fantasies.

We just need a spokesman or a group to adequately articulate that as a constitutional issue. Most important, when it is expressed stay the hell away from any groups that that even hint at even remotely allude to approving adult/child relations. That would only distract and weaken our cause. Any further dialogue on this is I think a good start and could perhaps maybe even lead to a grassroots movement. Ralphus, any thoughts?

Like it or not, this is a Christian nation and Christians are perceived as being pro-family and anti-porn. So anybody who heads this grass roots campaign has to first find a way to disassociate himself with the stigma that what he is trying to push for is somehow not anti-religion, and that's a tough task in and of itself.

That's exactly how Bush won this last election, by basically shoving it down the voter's throats that he was the Christian candidate and that if you voted against him, you were voting against God. He fooled a lot of people with that ruse and they fell for it.

A lot of Americans are blind to the fact that Bush is a deceptive, manipulative fascist who bypasses the laws of this country and gets his own legislation passed through a series of lies and legal loopholes and is able to get away with it. He's a lying hypocrite who preaches how much the terrorists hate freedom, but in reality, he's the one who has almost single-handedly wiped out a large number of the freedoms that we have earned in this country, and he's not done yet. As long as he's in power and the Republicans have the majority in this country, this will continue to get worse.

Until we can get a grass roots movement going, we still have the Free Speech Coalition, of which I'm a paying member. They are the best friends and allies that we, as freedom-loving Americans, can hope to have. That's why we have the link to their website always displayed on our main forum. They and their attorneys help to fight our battles, but with all the conservative Bush appointees, it appears the decked is stacked against us at this point.

http://www.paragonvideo.com/ and http://www.antonvideo.com/

SHARK-172 Starring Juri as the victim of a girl and her boyfriend.

The movie opens with the girl walking down a flight of cement stairs into what appears to be a large room, maybe a warehouse or the basement of a building, it is dreary, with cement walls.

In the middle of room, a naked Juri is laying on a large black mat. Her wrists are tied behind her back, a red collar is around her neck, to it is attached a chain which is then attached to the wall, or something to keep her in place. Juri has her face buried in the mat but raises up when she hears the girl.

I am usually turned off when the heroine is already captured and tied up when the movie opens, but the movie gets around this with flashbacks.

Juri plays her part well, looking dejected and embarrassed at being tied and naked in front of a fully dressed girl. The girl places a large silver bowl in front of Juri and then fills it, I think with bread. Still with her hands tied behind her back, Juri on her knees, bends down and begins to eat the bread. The girl smiles like the cat that had just swallowed the canary, her mind drifting back in time, when she and Juri were younger, wearing school clothes, white shirts, blue sweaters, plaid shirts and high, blue stockings.

They are in a room, the girl is sitting on the floor, tied up and gagged, her back resting against a bed. Juri and a man are standing over her. They put the girl on the bed and strip her. Juri fondles the girls breasts with her hands, pinching the nipples. They make the girl suck the man, then spread her legs and the man fucks her for a while. Then they turn her over and while the man takes her doggy style, Juri is in front of her, holding her face up, so that Juri can say insulting things to her (IMO). The scene ends with the girl sobbing on the bed while Juri bends over her and says something to her face and then laughs at her. The scene switches back to the basement. The girl says something to Juri and Juri doesn't look very happy.

Now the girl's mind goes back in time again and she is walking down the street, now much older than a school girl. Surprisingly, she spots Juri standing on the sidewalk, attired in a nice dress. A man wearing a suit and driving a fancy car pulls up, gets out and he and Juri kiss and Juri gets in the car with him. Seems Juri is doing alright for herself these days. The girl notices that Juri has dropped maybe a small pocketbook in the street, when she had gotten in the car. The girl picks it up and smiles. The girl goes home and makes a telephone call to her boyfriend.

Still in flashback. Now knowing where Juri lives, the girl and her boyfriend are waiting in a van. Down the street comes Juri wearing a nice white dress. The girl pushes the vans door open and offers Juri ride. Juri doesn't recognize the girl but is reluctant to get in. The boy gets out, takes Juri by the arm and helps her in the van. Juri gets in but looks very uncomfortable with the situation.

Still in flashback, the scene is now in the basement. Juri looks hot in the white dress, which in laced all the way down the front, from between in big tits right down to the hem. Juri is smoking a cigarette, trying to act nonchalant, even though she is nervous. Juri seems to be getting more nervous as the girl starts talking to her, probably refreshing Juri's memory as just exactly who she is. Finally panicked, Juri stands up and starts to leave but the guy grabs her, she breaks away and runs but she only goes from one cement walled room to another. They finally catch her and between the two of them they strip her nude. They throw her on the black mat, on her back. While the girl holds her by the shoulders, the guy uses his hands to fondle her breasts and pinch her nipples, then he bites her nipples.

Then the girl fondles Juri's tits while the guy pushes his thumb in her snatch. He then turns Juri around like he is going to take her doggy style, But instead, he pulls her head back by the hair, so that she is facing the girl. Juri is crying while he makes her apologize to the girl for what she had done to her in the past. Kneeling behind Juri, the guy reaches around her, pinches her nipples and stretches her tits way out from her body. Then he holds Juri's arms behind her, so that the girl can fondle and stretch her tits as well. Juri cries as they turn her everyway but loose, the girl fondling her tits while she sucks the guy, while he fucks her, etc., etc. The girl forces Juri to fondle and suck Juri's own tits, forcing her to even spit on them so that the guy can easily glide his prick, in and out, between them. When they are through with her, they tie her hands behind her back, then collar and leash her.

Next scene it is the guy that comes to feed her. Juri's wrist are tied behind her back, she is collared and leashed. Without the girl there, Juri sees her chance. You can sense that she is talking seductively to the guy, trying to seduce him into letting her go. She raises up on her knees, her tits deliberately in the guy's face. Too late. The girl arrives, sees her and she is pissed. She puts Juri on her knees, still tied up, in front of a large mirror and forces Juri to watch as she really does a job on Juri's tits, fondling and squeezing them with her hands, without mercy. Juri moans in pain and humiliation. Then the guy holds Juri down, while a still pissed off girl uses a punch gun to pierce Juri's labia and fits her with a ring. Never seen that in a Japanese movie. The two go off and leave Juri tied, leashed and ringed.

Finally, now, we are back to the opening scene where the girl was feeding Juri and thinking back in time. The guy shows up now. They force Juri to pee in a bowl and then throw it on her.

They next scene the guy is sitting in a chair with the girl on his lap. They are kissing and while Juri is laying on the floor, the girl's bare foot is pressed into Juri's tit. In walks a guy in a suit. Probably a white slaver. He inspects the merchandise with his hands. concentrating on her tits. Liking what he sees, he tries her out in all of the usual sexual positions, again her breasts getting mauled by both males. Being satisfied, the slaver decides to take her. The guy and girl leave, laughing and the slaver approaches a frightened Juri with a hypodermic needle. For my tastes I would give this movie an A.

F.Y.I. DeRailed. Three pairs of hands give Juri's fine set of titties a real going over.

Video Mayhem used to carry it; they might still have it sitting around somewhere but just not showing it on their site. Check with them. For sure, SaveOnAV.com has it at the link above, under the title "Confinement Rape".

http://www.powershotz.com/wholesaletitles.htm

I'm not so keen on flashbacks in bondage movies. For some reason, I always want my first glimpse of the victim to be one where she is fully clothed. But it still sounds like this movie is well done.

I would caution that the disc available at SaveonAV.com is a VCD disc, which means the picture quality will be very poor.

I was wondering if anyone on this site could direct me to some good websites that offer this type of photography. I prefer the Japanese but American ( allthough I realize ... rare ) wil do too. Thank you all.

This sucks!

What have we been saying here about the Bush censorship tactics? They know bondage isn't illegal, and they know they could never win an obscenity case, so they've resorted to this underhanded method. They've put so much pressure on the credit card companies not to accept such material that everything is getting wiped out. An online business can't survive without a credit card merchant, and they know it. And you watch, others will be next.

For all of you who voted for Bush this last election, congratulations, you're getting what you deserved. And the rest of us are suffering the consequences.

Snuff
Child Porn
Bestiality
Pornography depicting non consentual sex - This includes individuals appearing to be drugged, asleep, hypnotized, raped.
Pornography depicting sadistic or masochistic abuse
Pornography depicting urination, defecation, or menstruation
Live Webcam

It's a policy statement by Visa and Mastercard. The management of Visa and Mastercard are doing it to placate mothers who complain when their kids get hold of the credit card. It wouldn't matter if the president were Bush or Clinton. It's a corporate policy. Lawyers will bring suit against Visa on behalf of mothers and win in court. It's a legal system that allows lawyers to make the rules. Bush didn't create it. The credit card companies don't need the porn business. We are a small piece of the pie. It's easier for them to crack down than fight in court.

I'm going to try to limit the damage by changing the written descriptions of clips. In other words...it may say that she is tied up...instead of saying that she is abducted and tied up...and there may not be an sample pic that shows the abduction...only the pic of her tied up. People will have to guess at what they are buying under vague descriptions. The censor that is reviewing the site is a woman...given only the vague descriptions that I listed above by the credit card companies. Depending on how she interprets the descriptions....it may be a complete shut down where people will only be able to purchase by mail. If that happens, the site will no longer be able to afford to operate.

Tauristas-due out Dec. 1st has several bondage/cleave gag scenes in screener, www.foxatomic.com

September 26th on dvd Takashi Miike's Imprint which is part of the Master's of Horror series. Several bondage scenes including woman tied and knotted cleave gagged-some SM.

Hostel#2 -this time it's 3 females traveling in Italy.

Saw#3- Nude woman with wrists chained and padlocked overhead.

Last House on the Left remake shows woman bound and tape gagged in bathtub- likely earlier scenes as well.

Attackers RB#47 PT#1,#2, RB#51 PT#1,2 and RB#55 PT#1+2. Woman are drugged and end up being trained as sex slaves. Kept bound and forced to service their captors. One's that refuse have their minds chaged after being lashed with a whip. Attractive women, storyline, great acting, whimpering etc.

Doesn't get any better then this. Quite an island paradise...

Next, a recommendation of powershotz silver nightmares for those who like to see a tape gagged victim in nearly nonstop motion - writhing, bucking, mmpffing, against duct tape bondage on a bed, chair bound and standing in a shower. The victim, Alex Del Monacco, is a Pam Anderson knock off (that's not a bad thing) who basically works so hard to fight off her predicament that she ends up ultimately tiring like a hooked fish that has worn itself out to exhaustion.

With respect to the credit card companies and current "climate" against porn in general and our kind of stuff in particular. It occurs to me that the internet and electronic media in general (e.g. DVDs, I-pods, etc) has really created a panic situation for many people. I truly believe that our fearless leader Ralphus really hits it right on the head when he chimes in every once in a while about how abhorrent the general public finds the type of gimp material that we like best. Gimp themes, even with adults might as well be child porn - at least in John Q Public's mind. It used to be that the only place you would ever see this kind of stuff was in back rooms of dingy adult book stores and in some types of movies which were only seen by a limited group of adults. Now, this stuff is everywhere and readily available to virtually anyone. For us it's great, but for the remainder of the great people of the U.S. it is intolerable and must be stopped.

I believe that Bush is a somewhat dimwitted and overzealous religious nut. Nonetheless, I also believe that the underbelly of the condemnation of gimp material and increasing efforts to eliminate all but the most vanilla porn on the internet goes way beyond Bush.

My guess is everyone will remain complacent until nearly all non-vanilla sex sites are gone. Once gone they will not be returning.

It has little to do with the Bush Administration...It wouldn't matter if the president were Bush or Clinton.

Actually, it has everything to do with the current administration. During the Clinton years, there was a clear message that obscenity enforcement was not a priority, and it slowly became an acceptable mode of entertainment. Bush, on the other hand, is clearly a friend of anti-porn groups, and everything he's done in his administration has been geared toward making it very difficult for adult entertainment to continue to do business.

The credit card companies had no problem accepting money from adult entertainment before. Do you think they willingly wanted to give up billions of dollars a year that these companies generate?

No, they didn't. The fact is that it's been under the Bush regime that the Department of Justice sent out a letter to the big credit card companies that stated clearly that they would be prosecuted under RICO laws if they continued to process accounts that contained obscene material. Whether the material is actually obscene or not makes no difference. The credit card companies began refusing to handle adult related content, and as Natasha Flade noted last month, there's no US bank will even touch bondage nowadays. Your only hope is to pay inflated fees and go with a foreign account to process your transactions and hope you can survive that way.

Good luck.

"White House Trying to End Porn" 14 July

All week our websites have been only able to accept credit-card transactions some of the time. Why? Because our merchant account, through Woodforest Bank (that's how we run Visa and Mastercard transactions) dumped us without warning, citing content that "should not be" on our sites. This content is chloroform and gun play. Even after removing that stuff, they said they would not take us back -- they are not dealing with bondage anymore, period. And they also had the gall to blacklist us in an attempt to make it impossible for us to get a new merchant processor, which would effectively shut us down for good.

Visa was coming down on their merchant banks, like Woodforest, and issued new content rules (which we never rec'd a copy of). Why is Visa doing this, and issuing banks $25,000 fines for any hint of non-compliance? Answer: pressure from the George W. Bush administration. Our dear president owes the religious right for helping him win the last two elections, and he's paying them back by making it very difficult for pornographers to do business in the USA. Not through legislation, but through pressure tactics.

It all started out slowly when he first took office and Visa suddenly made all adult industry companies shell out $1,000/year just to stay in business. Mastercard soon followed suit, demanding an additional $750 to take their card.

A lot of little guys disappeared in 2001. And now, there are only a handful of US banks that deal with adult producers at all, and then only if you generate over $100,000/month. Therefore, like everyone else that's far, far away from that mark, our new bank is offshore. Read: Nearly all porn money is now handled by foreign banks. Also Read: George W. Bush is sending billions of dollars of US money and business overseas.

Don't think it will stop here. If you like the freedom of internet porn, stop voting for the GOP. If this ball keeps rolling like it is, the only thing you'll be able to read on the internet is the Bible. And even that will surely be edited by the president.

Blame the lawyers for this. They are the ones that will bring suit against Visa if a pissed off mother that couldn't control their own credit card had it used by an underage son to purchase S&M porn. I blame the whole bloody establishment...Republican, Democrats and independents....including the jury that makes Visa pay huge sums of money to mommy when her little Johnny steals her card and is traumatized by whacking off to hot chicks tied up and whipped.

Its the jury of our peers that did us in....and they didn't even know it. They thought they were just taking money from a big company like Visa that has too much money anyway and giving it to a poor working single mom. People are idiots. They deserve what they get. One of these days we are going to get our asses kicked because we've got our head up our ass!

The way for me to survive is to have multiple means of gathering income. Diversify...if one leg gets shut down...the others take the load. This will be a huge setback if I have to remove all the forced stripping scenes. Those are some of the best sellers. I'll just have to work my tail off and get them up on another site...until that site gets shut down....and so on.....just like the drug business.

Thanks for your support.

Point number one: the alleged 'debt' to the religious right for delivering the election is hooey.

The 2004 election was about the war on terror. Bush won because his position was clear and people believed, rightly or wrongly, that he was the best person to win the war. His opponent, John Kerry, was all over the map on Iraq and not always consistent in answering questions about his own record in Vietnam.

I don't have the proof handy, but it seems there has been plenty of evidence to show the Christian right didn't really deliver votes to Bush in any significant way. Bob Jones has claimed that the religious right was a major factor, and that he would be looking for payback for delivering the election, but my recollection is the statistical evidence doesn't back his claim.

Point number two: The strategy isn't working, in any event.

Actually, say what you like about Bush, but he has stuck pretty close to the Neo-Conservative agenda. Look at the war in Iraq, the deficits (unlike traditional conservatives, Neo-Conservatives aren't too fussed about the deficits), Supreme Court appointments, stem cell research, etc. By just about any standard, he has been a good Neo-Conservative.

Yet his vote has collapsed, and it has collapsed among Republicans. Why? Because Karl Rove and the gang have always exaggerated the extent of support for Neo-Conservatism.

Many conservatives believe the war in Iraq is being handled badly, and there isn't widespread support, even among Republicans, for the other aspects of the Neo-Conservative agenda.

Is Bush struggling because of his crackdowns on violent porn? No, not because of that issue alone. But the moral crusade against same-sex marriage, stem cell research, abortion, and to some extent pornography, has hurt Bush. Add in the inability to manage the government's books, and Bush's popularity is in free fall.

Presidents always struggle in their second mandate, but Bush is a unique case even by that standard. He should have stuck to a clear agenda -- focus on the war in Iraq and get the budget books in order -- and Republicans would have stuck with him. And I mean all Republicans, from traditional small-c conservatives and smaller-government libertarians, to the Neo-Conservative crowd that favored the war in Iraq. Instead, Bush has disillusioned his own base, and many small-c conservatives have given up on him.

I don't have the proof handy, but it seems there has been plenty of evidence to show the Christian right didn't really deliver votes to Bush in any significant way. Bob Jones has claimed that the religious right was a major factor, and that he would be looking for payback for delivering the election, but my recollection is the statistical evidence doesn't back his claim.

Well, I do have some proof handy and your recollection is wrong. I did a Google search and here's what I found from AlterNet.org (link above):

While election-day exit polling relied on vague terms like "moral values" to produce inconclusive evidence about conservative Christian voters...they did reveal that the rate of voters who attended church once a week leapt by 2 points from 2000 and that 64 percent of them voted for Bush...All in all, 79 percent of evangelicals voted for Bush. In Ohio, where 25 percent of the population is Catholic, Bush won a whopping 54 percent of the Catholic vote, a reflection of the Catholic right's intense opposition to Kerry and the success of the RNC's grassroots Catholic outreach efforts. He also won 79 percent of the evangelical vote there.

Pretty decisive majority, I'd say.

Is Bush struggling because of his crackdowns on violent porn? No, not because of that issue alone.

Correct on that one. I'd wager to say that most Americans that are not adult industry insiders probably have no idea what Bush is doing regarding the adult entertainment. His covert actions against adult merchants don't get reported on the evening news. I'll bet less than 5% of Americans even know what 2257 regulations are. That's why most people aren't up in arms over this issue. It isn't heavily publicized, and most people are clueless or couldn't care less. They are down on Bush for a myriad of other reasons that you already explained. And those are important issues, and they should be down on him for all those, too. Face it, the guy is sucking in nearly every facet of his job. People are finally onto him, and that's why his approval rating is at a record low.

We just happen to know about one more important issue here that directly affects us and our interests. We don't want to see the freedoms we once had taken away, and especially not in such a despicable, unlawful and underhanded way. Adult entertainment is legal and should remain legal, no matter what our religious zealot of a president tries to impose upon us.

There is no guarantee what will happen. The whole thing could go away if the bank decides the site is ok. On the other hand I may be "forced" to scatter the more extreme clips to other sites, where they will be hard to find and likely more expensive. DVD's are not changing. But may need to be sold through another outlet after the review.

Still, I stand by my overall contention, that it has been a mistake for Bush to try to reward his Christian friends with the so-called "moral" agenda. Bush's emphasis on big government (which is what you need to legally impose a "moral" agenda) and huge deficits is hurting him among his own base. As I said yesterday, and still believe, Bush should have focused on the war in Iraq and on balancing the books. He has betrayed small-c conservatives by straying into so many other areas.

You could also hide the material from the auditors (but not from the informed subscribers) via a password protected link that only becomes visible if you know where to put your mouse cursor on a particular screen in a particular non-obvious screen location (where scrolling is involved) ... sort of like a html version of a DVD easter egg. That's how I hide material when authoring some DVDs. Just a thought.

I guess the gov't is insecure when it comes to kidnapping. They have the fantasy...so they presume everyone does...which they do....but they feel guilty about having the fantasy....which I don't. So since they feel guilty about their own thoughts they attempt to crack down on it. My theory on rape fantasy, porn, bondage, or any fetish for that matter...is that it reduces the risk of violent crime. By producing a product that allows people to whack off....I am in fact preventing rape. Everyone carries around a certain level of sexual frustration. When we whack off...we reduce that level of frustration, thereby reducing the driving force that causes people to commit crimes of violence. As evidence to support this theory I cite the lower incidence of rape and violent crime in countries that allow unrestricted porn. When I was in Germany, in a gas station, I saw a gay porno mag on a magazine rack. It was on the lower rack...right in front of a baby stroller....with a baby in it. The kid could see everything. I looked around the gas station...and everyone seemed perfectly normal. I'm not positive on this...but I believe Germany has a lower incidence of sex crimes.

Americans have a mental illness when it comes to sex. We want it, but we feel guilty about wanting it. It must be a holdover from the puritan ethic. If everyone would just lighten the fuck up about the whole sex thing we'd be a lot better off. People fuck...people fuck in every possible way...in every possible position...with every possible theme, toy, tool, setting that they can think of. They spend half the day thinking about it when they are young...as they get older it drops off...but we still think about it. We want to see executions...we want to see people blown up...we like to watch entire fields of young men mowed down by machine gun fire. Its in our movies. By watching it on TV...we reconcile our fears and obsessions. By watching war on TV...we realize that it is something to be avoided. If I could watch rape whenever I wanted to...I would be less likely to commit rape. I truly believe that the spread of communication world wide will bring about peace. Until that time however we must live in a world where special interests that preach a moral code that is unfounded in fact prevail.

I'm pontificating...for those who read this far. Here's a fact...I've shot a lot of abduction fantasy...kidnap fantasy...forced strippings and gaggings....but there was only one time in my life when I almost started a fight....it was when I saw a young girl walking down the street alone....a man came around the corner and started heckling her...telling her how hot her legs were...the girl started walking really fast...she started whimpering...we were alone on a deserted street in downtown Montreal. If he had attempted to touch her in any way...I was going to hammer the fucker. Luckily he turned off. He was bigger than me and probably would have kicked my ass. I just couldn't see myself standing by and letting it happen. Perhaps the people in Washington can't separate fantasy from reality as well as you or I. They live in a non profit world where they make their own rules. Fascism is what must be avoided in our society today...not non consensual themes in adult entertainment!

Scion, The

I encourage everyone to put some dollars behind what they like to help ensure the future wants you might have. The vendors have a battle on their hands and need your help. Even a little goes a long way. Be there for them and surely they will be there for you. This is a free market and help create some demand in the face of the fascism that is present today and maybe we can wear our opposition out a bit. The vendors need your support for legal resources to fight the good fight.

I would hope the vendors put aside any differences as well and pool their resources. Forget the competitive tendencies and realize that they need more team members and fight on a common front to save the industry and the qualities within. I would hate to see the watered down product that was prevalent some 20 years ago with Cal-Star and Harmony. I walked away from it all back then for a few years. I hope history doesn't repeat itself. Grey

I can't take credit for this idea -- author Laura Kipnis made the point about elitism in her book, Bound and Gagged. But I believe it is true.

Think of it this way. The Shakespeare play, Hamlet, is a violent story about a guy who murders people and is verbally abusive and cruel to his girlfriend. Yet no one would ever suggest that Hamlet should be banned. It is assumed that the audience for a Shakespearean play understands the difference between theatre and real life.

So why is it assumed that people who watch porn, or Rambo movies for that matter, aren't capable of making the same distinctions?

Why do some people think the well-to-do can separate fantasy from reality, but regular schmucks who see rape in a porn movie will become rapists themselves? The answer, presumably, is that most of us aren't assumed to be as smart as the theatre crowd. At least, that's the assumption made by some elitist intellectuals.

First, I'm a lawyer, Steve. :-) That's okay, I won't hold your comments against you. I'm damn glad I'm a lawyer because if it weren't for that, we'd still be on the blacklist after our bank audited us and terminated our merchant account cold turkey. According to Lorelei from Bedroom Bondage, about 40 webowners have been shut down AND blacklisted--for violating rules they didn't even know existed!

But we're over that now. Like Steve, we had to sterilize our sites in order for the bank to give them its stamp of approval and remove us from the blacklist, after which we immediately terminated our account with them and went offshore.

I don't think it's true that Visa/Mastercard have the same rules offshore as they do in the States. If they do, I wouldn't be in business right now. Also, as one poster mentioned, Europe is not prudish as the States are. People don't care if they show adults making love on TV in prime time. I lived in France for a while and little kids watched movies that wouldn't even have been allowed on TV in the States because they showed boobs. Even the commercials showed breasts, such as in shampoo and soap commercials.

I think the government is pressuring Visa, but I can't prove it. Isaac may have more insight into that. It may, however, be that Visa simply senses that Americans themselves are prudish and want these kinds of regulations I don't know if that's true, but it could just be Visa wanting to look like it's the "good and moral guy." But let's face it--Visa just wants to make money. And they have no problem taking my money at an offshore bank with the SAME content I couldn't have in the U.S. So something is not right.

Whether it's our government pressuring or Americans are really just that damn prudish, I don't know.

I also don't think it's true that there is an elitist standard regarding things like Shakespeare as opposed to low-brow entertainment. I think there is a problem in this country with sex, period. Steve said that and he's right. We are all hung up on SEX. No one seems to care about low-brow Hollywood films portraying violence like murder. It's only when the material is soley designed for sexual reasons (i.e., porn) that it gets censored in such a manner as it is being censored now.

Feel free to grill me. :-)

Natasha

The ignorance and lack of thoughtfulness has led many like lemmings off the cliff's edge. People like to follow suit and be fed crap to digest. The complete lack of critical thinking has led our world as many other's into perhaps one of greatest periods of suffering on all levels. We have people that don't believe in stem cell research and the cures that it might bring because it is not "pro-life". Yet to the same people -- sending our sons and daughters to war to be killed. Bombing indiscriminately and killing kids all over the world seems to fit into their friendly confines of "pro-life". Allowing many to die prematurely without looking for cures and not addressing global warming issues is also pro-life to them.

I am so sick of "those people" that crave "rapture" that maybe there are cases that some should not be deprived of what they wish for. Hundreds of billions of our tax dollars has been spent on nonsense in the last few years -- and we are less protected now than ever. I have to ask any of you "Has anything gone right in the last six years"? Grey

The result is not only in the porn industry but in many other areas involving creativity like music, sports, and entertainment -- the quality of things "sucks". Why is the "C right" so hung up on "rapture" -- why are they so excited about it? Are they sick in the head -- you know "mental"? I sure as "Hell" don't want that "rapture crap"! Grey

That toon is fuckin' HILARIOUS! Right, it's not PC but that's what makes it FUNNY!

Great to hear from Natasha Flade, too.

Several years ago I belonged to a pay site called Mmmmppphhh.com or something very similar at least. (It's gone now) They had little mpegs you could watch that were like 5 minutes long or so. Add up a bunch of these and you had seen an entire movie.

I'd like to know the title of one of the movies they broke up into little mpegs. It looked to be from the '70s judging from the women's bushes and the plot revolved around a dark haired reporter that goes looking for some lost or kidnapped girls. She finds them being kept in a prison as white slavery victims. Of course, the lovely reporter is soon captured and made to endure the same bondage and "training" as the other girls.

It ended with a white slavery auction, each girl being asked to step forward in front of a crowd and show off for the potential bidders. The dark haired reporter is asked to bend down and pick up something (A bottle perhaps?) with her neither lips and hold it between her legs for a moment.

The twist ending had her being bought by the very same editor that sent her on the assignment to begin with!

Does this sound at all familar to anybody here? And if so, can you supply me with a title or a distributer?

Thanks in advance!

i think this film is "curiosity excited the cat" it´s an old Cal Star movie.

But i don´t know where you can buy it. my 2 cents. jay

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Bengals1/cat1.jpg

Anybody got any more info? Does the VHS cover ring any bells for anybody?

Thanks again for the tip!

btw, do your people have wings on their backs?

Any idea how graphic this movie was? I don't recall any real sex scenes and those stills confirm my memory that you don't actually see the woman pick up the bottle, just her face as she's forced to do so. I had half-thought that might just have been the version I saw on that old site. Now it doesn't look that way but rather thats the way the whole movie was. (shucks)

Anybody with a better memory remember how XXX or R rated this thing was?

Thanks again to all replied, now I've got to go out and get my own copy!

Unlike my friend Grey, I'm not so quick to agree with everything you wrote. I do think it is possible there is some elitism at work in the attitudes of some anti-porn crusaders.

That's not to say your point about people getting more uptight about sex than violence in the media is wrong. Actually, I think that comment is definitely true. Personally, I can't recall which two teams played in the Super Bowl two years ago, but I certainly remember all the fuss about Janet Jackson's nipple.

Somehow, many people get all funny about sexual content, yet they aren't bothered by depictions of violence or war.

However, having said all that, the argument about elitism still has some merit.

Perhaps the obscenity laws in Canada are a good example. Generally, any depiction of bondage or violence in a sexual scene in a movie is considered obscene in Canada and is illegal. However, the laws do make an exception for movies that might have "artistic merit."

Why is this? If you believe that a movie depicting rape is something that could cause a viewer to become a rapist, what difference does it make whether the film has "artistic merit" or not? I would think a person who gets aroused by a rape scene in a ZFX movie could just as easily get aroused by the rape scenes in A Clockwork Orange (and I oughta know).

To me, the "artistic merit" defence that might allow some films to be permissible in Canada is a possible example of elitism at work. One would assume the underlying thinking is that the audience at a film with "artistic merit" is somehow believed to be better able to separate fantasy from reality. If I understand the thinking correctly, it sure seems elitist to me.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. I hope this didn't come across as a "grilling."

(As an aside, when Canada Customs confiscated two of my ZFX orders two years ago, I thought about fighting them using the "artistic merit" argument. But I quickly determined the case was hopeless and that I had neither the resources nor the willpower to fight the authorities. Sorry, Rick).

Another scene, they have a girl spreadealed on a table of sorts. Then using a crank or whatever, her ankles are raised until her buttocks are just off the table top. With her legs spread wide, this leaves everything between her legs very vulnerable. Was a real turn on. Was a long time ago and I may be remembering it better than it actually was. LOL

I'm now having a horrible time trying to find it in any format. Someone suggested JT's Stockroom but I can't find it there either.

If anybody can post a link I can follow or suggest where it might be purchased I'd greatly appreciate it!

Also, if anyone knows the brunette actresses name that might help me find it in one database or another.

Again, much thanks to all who reply!!

http://www.reds-realm.net/market/vidlist2.html

Happy viewing, Graham

Natasha has already given an account of our troubles with V/MC and what we're pretty damn sure what the source is, due to the following reasoning:

1) V/MC have no problems taking bondage through overseas banks, nor for any European producers.

2) Banks like money. Duh. In other words, they hate to lose business to overseas merchants, which is exactly what is happening. This is not some sort of business decision on their part.

So what do we do about this mess? Someone already mentioned supporting your fave bondage sites, and to that I'll give an 'Amen!' I'd like to also suggest that you start voting like you surf the internet. With your penis. Not that Dems are pro-porn -- no party is in this prudish nation. But they are generally pro free speech, and certainly "softer" on the issue than their fellow Republicans. When Willie was the prez, it was all prosperity and no troubles for anyone in the bondage biz. Six years later we're being run out of the country. We really need some "live and let live" attitudes in the govenment, lest we cease being a free country at all, and become some sort of Christian version of Iran. I'm all for freedom of religion and especially freedom FROM religion. I don't care what anyone does on Sunday morning, as long as their not trying to shut my business down. I won't show up to their church in assless leather chaps, therefore they can give me the same courtesy of leaving their Bible out of my website.

Anyone else have any other suggestions for where it might be found? I noticed that most of my problems in finding the movie via the internet were because the kind people that told me about it misspelled the title. It's "Curiosity Excited the Kat" with one "t", not two. You'd be surprised what a huge difference that makes when doing a search!

Nevertheless, I want to again thank everyone who wrote back and offered their help. I'll keep trying to track down a copy. Any idea how the other flicks she appeared in are? Any personal reviews you guys can offer?

It's been a long time. Remember me? I used to go by the name Mudshark and publish -plain brown wrapper-, a weekly rape fantasy email newsletter that featured your reviews.

I've been reading what people are saying about 2257, and I have a different point of view.

Money is power. Moral indignation is merely a front. The people who are behind making something illegal are usually the people who stand to make the most money if it is. Marijuana is illegal because organized crime wants it to be. It's their bread and butter, and they have the money to keep it illegal by secretly backing the do-gooders. They learned their lesson when prohibition was lifted and they nearly went out of business.

I personally think that mainstream porn producers are behind 2257. They were being beat bloody by all the free, amateur porn on the net. Now it is all being pulled off because you have to be a big-time producer to follow all requirements of 2257.

Someone asked, "Where is Larry Flynt when we need him?" He may very well be in the enemy camp.

...just my opinion. Jefferson

It's a liability issue. Democrats and Republicans aside. If little Johnny steals mommy's credit card and is emotionally damaged by viewing an abduction scene on my website....Mommy gets to sue Visa. If mommy is a single parent that is struggling to get by, and she has a hungry attorney that can make a persuasive argument in court...she wins the lottery. Jury's are a sucker for a poor working parent. If my company is in Europe, where liability laws are much more stringent, and she'd have to take her case to an international attorney in an unknown country, there is no longer a problem for Visa.

Buy a dvd! I'm throwing in free copies of Ashleigh chloroformed and kept to anyone that buys a dvd!

For $3.99 no less! Hot tuna!!

Anywho, thanks again to all those who posted giving me their help, I truly appreciate it.

Now I gotta' find the other movies this gal did! (Wish me luck)

However...Boy, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. If you think the porn producers are behind 2257, you obviously haven't researched the law very well, or at all.

U.S.C. 18 §2257: The Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act is, in itself, a massive guise that pretends to be a law against exploiting children. By giving it an all-encompassing title and tying it in with child pornography, this gives them the outside appearance of trying to protect children, thus making it easier to justify. But don't be fooled by that smokescreen. The truth is that it actually has very little to do with protecting children.

Legitimate, mainstream porn does not employee performers under the age of 18...you'd be hard pressed to find any company anywhere that would dare hire anyone unless they have the proper identification. The Department of Justice knows this, and they also know they would have a hard time winning any kind of case where obscenity is the issue.

Basically, porn is legal and they don't like that, and that's why they came up with this law. Simply put, the law is designed to make it easier for authorities to prosecute porn. Amendment 2257 is so stringently written that if a producer makes any kind of a mistake, even say, misplacing a decimal point, they are in violation and it's a 5-year felony.

From what I understand, the record-keeping responsibilities of the producer are enormously complicated. The DoJ knows that the legal ramifications will scare many of them off, and they are counting on that. As for the others, well, if they know if they can't beat the porn producers, they can sure as hell make their life very difficult by imposing such strict laws.

This recent version of 2257 that just got passed last month, HR 4472, expands the scope of the law to what they call "secondary producers". That means...you. Me. Anyone who posts a sexually related picture on the Internet is now under the same scrutiny as the photographer who took the original photo. Under 4472, if a person or business takes an image recorded by someone else and puts it on a website, in a movie, magazine or on a box cover, that person or business (now known as the "secondary producer") must have copies of the government-issued identification card and personal information such as any name ever used by any performer of sexually explicit content in the movie or photograph.

Furthermore, that person or business is now required to integrate the records received from the original producer with all the records received from all other producers, and be available for all warrantless, unannounced inspections by any law enforcement agent designated by the Attorney General.

That's the risk I face every day on this board by posting the daily picture on a free website. 5 years in prison. For posting a picture.

Now ask yourself if the big-time producers are really behind this law. Ask yourself if they think living in fear of losing their livelihood is something they enjoy. And ask yourself if they really, really want to go to prison for just trying to do their jobs. In fact, we have lots of producers who read and post to this board. Why not just ask them?

The new 2257 regs require the models to disclose all aliases including mothers maiden name. With the 2257 records you could create a complete identity and open bank accounts in that models name. I don't like having that kind of information, but am required to keep it.

Any photographer who complies with 2257 with regard to secondary producers runs a greater risk of being sued by a model for allowing her identity to be stolen than being busted by the feds. So you are damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If they were looking for underage porn they'd ask for our help....not slap us with an additional regulatory burden. I don't believe the secondary producer aspects of 2257 have ever been tested in court. I haven't heard of any 2257 inspections actually taking place.

You guys were so good at identifing that movie based on my sketchy outline that I'd like to try another one.

I've never actually seen this one, only read a review of it in Playboy waaaaay back in the early to mid '80s. I only know that the plot revolved around some sort of serial rapist that was going around forcing enemas on his victims. A pretty police woman is used as bait and of course she ends up getting more than she bargined for as one of his victims. I only remember that the title had the word "Water" in it. (Natch') Something like, "Waterworks" or a very similar title.

I have to admit, the enema aspect of the plot doesn't hold any special appeal for me but the overall plot of a woman in authority getting in over her head sexually does. (Kinda' like the plot of "Kat")

So good people of GIMP, ring any bells?

Thanks once again to any who reply!

Your mystery film is Waterpower, a 70s classic with Jamie Gillis as the lead bad guy. At the conclusion of the film, he ties the police lady up in the bathtub, gags her with an apple and tape (fruit gags are pretty rare), rapes her from behind and then stuffs an enema nozzle up her ass, pumping it up so it won't be able to come out. Then he hooks the other end of the tube into the faucet, turns on the water and leaves her there, about to receive a fatal enema! Cool stuff, huh?

Unfortunately, I've only seen this as a grainy bootleg, so good luck finding a good copy. I think I got mine from Alpha Blue (see links page), but check around and see if anyone else carries it.

Here's some really poor caps from it. Sorry, it's the best I could find.

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Jefferson

Although the enema element of this movie has no real interest for me, the idea of a woman of authority (In this case a Policewoman, in Curiosity Excited the Kat a embassy worker (I mistakenly thought she played a reporter at first) getting more than she barginned for sexually is.

If any of you know of any movies which feature similar plot lines please don't hesitate to recommend them.

Thanks again for all your help!

Yeah, we need to get going on updating the reviews section, too. Like I stated before, my time is limited anymore. Like Scribbler, real life sometimes gets in the way of my working on the board. We both have jobs that take up more time than we would like. If I can, I'll try to work on the reviews section today.

All artwork mine, done in a software called Poser 5, illustrating the novel Whipping Girl, authored by yours truly.

For a digitalized 3-D mesh she ain't too bad, is she?

"So what's a nice girl like you doing in a computer-generated torture chamber like this?"

Ah! Sharon Montgomery and Marti Kaye. Memories!

There have indeed been 2257 inspections. Here's the 4th one reported at xbiz.com....

xbiz.com

Not every FBI inspection is reported (most likely), so there's probably more.

2257 records do not require the performer's mother's maiden name, they require the performer's names, all she's ever used, including her maiden name (not her mom's).

The major porn publishers use lots of secondary producers. They're called affiliates. Wanna become an affiliate for Flynt, go here...

flyntdigital.com

It's too bad the Americans that are prudes want to force the Americans that aren't prudes into living like prudes. To mold them into their image of how people should be. They have no hope of accomplishing this, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to try hard and make this a hard fight. As they push, we need to push back. Protect the freedoms our wise founding fathers gave us. Freedom of speech and Freedom of thought are priceless freedoms. Don't let the puritan bent subset of our population ruin life for the rest of us. Join the Free Speech Coalition...

freespeechcoalition.com

I can never fathom why people with certain beliefs are so hell-bent (excuse the pun) on trying to force the rest of us to live the same lifestyles as them.

I'm not questioning their beliefs, or the choices they make for themselves. If someone believes living a prudish life will help him get into Heaven, so be it.

But why do these people care about the way I live my life? I don't mean, simply, why don't they mind their own business (although I wish they would)? My question is aimed more at the psychology of these people -- why are they so obsessed with the lifestyles of others?

It will likely never happen, but someone should do a psychiatric assessment of these social conservatives to try to explain why they think the way they do.

Moreover, wouldn't it make sense to tell these guardian angels who have such an obsessive concern for our moral well-being to let us make our own mistakes? If whatever we do can be referred to as a mistake? Otherwise if you don't make your own mistakes, how are you ever going to learn anything in life?

And if what you do creates no detriment in your life, how can you call it a mistake? Now there's a logical argument that'll stand up to the harshest critic.

Just rambling here.

I followed your point about the thrill of delving into forbidden behavior. Uh... and then I got confused. Perhaps you could explain your point again, at least for my benefit.

What I meant to draw attention to is the irony of censorship: the excessively moral-minded try to discourage immoral tastes or behavior. They tell us it's perverted and we'll burn in hell--even if our interest never extends beyond fantasy, as in the case of pornography, or in a consensual relationship. But in so doing, they only encourage those tastes and behavior.

This is because of what one might call the "shame" factor. We can't help but be curious of what's supposed to be forbidden to us, so it becomes all the more attractive.

Anyway, that's what I wanted to stress: that no matter how strenuously censors try to put a cap on pornography or entertainment of an adult nature, they'll ultimately fail. Human beings must have a release for their erotic impulses simply because it's part of our nature as human beings.

Sorry I confused people. And if you're still confused, maybe I ought to start drinking again so we're on the same wavelength.

"Mark E. Divin"

I'll still send my reviews when I get around to it, Ralphus and when I won't have to spend my evenings reading industrial legislation documents and other 'exciting' pieces of legislature.

Here we've just had the annual SEXPO- sexual lifestyle exhibition which takes place on various major Australian cities throughout the year, very vanilla....no mention of bondage at all....(mild playful lesbian S&M was as daring as it got in that department) lots of stalls selling the usual porno accessories you'll find at you local porn store but at exhorbitant prices! and a few overseas porn stars as special guests, a couple of female "stars" from PRIVATE (a few years ago they had vanilla actresses Serenity and Shayla Laveaux whom I had the pleasure of interviewing for a local smutty magazine). The whole thing was thoroughly boring and a waste of time.(check out their website: sexpo.com.au)

regards

I find that scenes where a woman gets slapped in the face seem to be most common in the Japanese movies, and I often really enjoy them. In fact, I have just ordered one Attackers film from saveonav.com based primarily on one scene from the movie's trailer where one of the villains gives the woman a good whack across the head.

I like this kind of stuff, even in some mainstream films such as Salvador, when Cindy Gibb's character gets slapped a bit before her character and the other nuns get raped.

I think the reason I like this is because of the added sense of humiliation in a slapping scene. When it's done right, the slaps can really be demeaning for the victim.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. I wonder how important the face-slapping scenes are to other GIMPers?

What is the Attackers title that you ordered?

I have just ordered one Attackers film from saveonav.com based primarily on one scene from the movie's trailer where one of the villains gives the woman a good whack across the head.

Do you by any chance have the link to that trailer? I don't think the Attackers website still has trailers; or if they do, I haven't been able to find them.

Regarding slapping, I'll give the same answer I gave to the similar "beating up women" poll we had several months ago. I dig it. Nothing shows more dominance than a sharp slap in the face. Take THAT, bitch! Consider it foreplay before the tying, torture and rape begin.

To paraphrase Alex, "A bit of the old ultra-violence, then some of the old in-out. Real horrorshow, O my Brothers. Viddy well!"

One of my very favorites is the assault on the blonde waitress in Eyes of a Stranger. Her attacker whips open her bra (from the front and very easily ... obviously unrealistic!) after throwing her on her bed. She then starts to sit up, and he whollops her across the face. She gets flung back, breasts bouncing most appealingly when she hits the bed. What makes the scene are the sound effects of the slap and her grunt... no doubt dubbed but very effective. Anyone else remember that scene? It was one of the first of its kind I ever saw, which is probably why it is a favorite. Later in the film Jennifer Jason Leigh gets smacked in the face several times, as well.

I'm certain others would be interested in knowing what Japanese vids have the slapping scenes... can anyone supply specific titles and scene descriptions?

I remember Anjyu took one really hard slap to the face in that movie, and lovely Sayaka Miura received some pretty decent slaps in that film, as well. My review of that film is in the archives.

The Attackers movie that I just ordered (it only shipped last night, so I haven't seen it yet) is atid-019, Real World III, with Mai Sakashita. Unfortunately, I saw the trailer on the disc for another movie, rather than online. But you might be able to find the trailer on the Attackers website.

Who knows, there could be a review coming out of this. I'll see what I think when I see the movie.

Although I haven't seen the Japanese movies you're all talking about, I can remember a decent amount of face-slapping scenes from mainstream TV/Movies involving bondage. I'll start a list here that hopefully GIMPers can add to. I'd be curious to hear if there many commercial movies outside of the Japanese ones referred to that have slapping.

Scenes with bondage and face-slapping:

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1) Olivia Pascal in "Island of 1000 Delights"

2) Sara M. Gellar in "Buffy: Reptile Boy"

3) Christina Lunde in "Hardcase and Fist"

4) Winona Ryder in "House of Spirits"

5) Peta Wilson in "La Femme Nikita: Friends"

6) unknown in "Mankillers"

7) Lisa Boyle in "Midnight Tease"

8) Kathleen Kinmont in "The Art of Dying"

9) Robin Stille in "America Ninja 4"

10) Joann Ayers in "Time Barbarians"

11) Jennifer O'Dell in "Lost World: Absolute Power"

12) Dawn Wildsmith in "Warlords"

13) Claire Stansfield in "Sweepers"

14) unknown in "Delta Force 3"

15) Marcia Gay Harden in "Fever"

For consentual but nasty face slapping, do a search on the Slap Happy vids. I've seen a couple of clips, and on half or more the girl gets hit pretty well (but some are little taps with no force).

In any event, to make any scene worthwhile, a girl getting slapped should be at least topless or exposed... it adds to the humiliation and if she's hit properly her breasts should jiggle or bounce with the impact. Just my $.02 (Hint, hint, Steve P... looks like you'd have some customers here if you applied your usual quality efforts to this subject...)

Breast slapping dvds at VM: Kidnap and Confinement#24, Kidnap and Confinement#25, Kidnap and Confinement#34, Attackers#84, DVS#049, SRD#084, SVND#067 and SRV#39.

Face Slapping - a big turn on for me. There's an extraordinary Insex video (with S4), where she freaks out over being hit across the face in what seems to the viewer to be a relatively minor thing (compared to some of the stuff that PD etc get up to). Like a lot of Insex, I find it more interesting psychologically, rather than erotically, but still one I watch every now and then in wonder. Of course, no thanks to the situation in the world at the moment, it's hardly even worth talking about the Insex films, because they're probably not going to ever be available again, but we can hope ...

Breast Slapping - even bigger for me than face slapping, and I'm surprised it's not used more often. Get them jiggling, I say. I know that Rick's used this, but my brain's a bit addled from lack of sleep and the whole thing to bring it to mind - can anyone remind me what films we see some titty slapping in?

Spitting - better in theory than in practice; or, should I say, better to think about than watch - I find it kind of repulsive myself.

Thees - my sympathies with you having to deal with industrial bullshit. It really does tend to take up valuable porn time. I agree with you about Sexpo, although when I went a few years ago, it was very straight laced, but at the same time used "bondage themes" as a kind of hook to hang what really is a pretty square view of what's outrageous sexually on. Sort of like those TV shows where you know if there's a hot policewoman, there's going to be some comment about her using her handcuffs, etc etc.

Le Marquis Divin - thanks for the pictures - very enjoyable. There are certain artists out there who are really creating glimpses of the impossible, which is a wonderful thing. If I had any talent for the visual side, that would be my mission. Alas, I only have a talent for words, and even that's up for argument.

Regarding the pathology of Religious nuts trying to force their beliefs on us ... it isn't only the religious right who are anti-porn - don't forget about the feminist far left (the Dworkins/McKinnons/etc), as well as the populist (often non-religious, or at least they are in Australia) media, who make everything an issue of 'Protecting Children'. There seems to be a mindset in which it's OK to say 'if we save one child from being exposed to this filth, then total censorship will be worth it'. Of course, it's absolute horse-shit.

People don't want to admit that their children/teenagers think about sex, and will make their own connections to things if they need to. Hell, I was exposed to exactly NO pornography until the age of probably sixteen, and still had years before that of having Gimp-worthy fantasies. Even if the parents have the same fantasies, they know that if they come out against censorship, they'll be painted as pro-child porn. It looks like the battle's lost from our side, and all we can do is enjoy our freedoms while we can, and look forward to a future of reminiscing.

Seeing the banner for Powershotz reminded me that we haven't seen you around over the past week. How did the audit go, or is it still going on? I notice the dvds don't have any descriptions by them anymore which SUCKS! Did you have to remove anything else?

On the subject of the bank review...haven't heard anything. Won't call back to ask...won't be contacted. You wait until they shut you down if they are going to. Nice way to do business. Oh well...still running for now.

Did you get my mail about my order? If you mailed back, it may have gone to Bulk. Could you please resend? Thanks!

Everyone:

I came across a hot forum exchange between the artist Roberts and two hotties from 2004. Checkout the forum at http://www.darkstarprods.com/ They seem to have gone to a chat format, and not left the logs on the forum. )-: Sad now.

back from summer holiday I´d like to share a little inspiration I had at the beach roasting in the sun.

Have fun, Jaeckill

I'm not in your league, but I have some talent for drawings and cartoons. Maybe I'll try doing some drawings and if I come up with anything worth sharing (without embarrassing myself), I will post them.

That picture is great! Really excellent artwork, and definitely GIMP-worthy. When you say it was inspired from your summer holiday at the beach, all I can say is...I hope you had a good time with her :)

Been kinda dead around here lately. Anybody seen any good movies they can report on? I saw a few last night. One of the roughest things I've seen in a long while is Slave Press No. 29, available at Video Mayhem as ADV#0151. Man, this movie is rough. It stars Randa Mai (aka Mr. Cool Shades) as the whipmaster so you know the action is gonna be brutal. And it was. He puts this woman through some nasty tortures, including a variation on the classic Edo torture where the victim is forced to kneel over a jagged surface and has heavy weights piled on top of her legs. In this case, he stacks about 20 or so bricks on her and lets her suffer, then enhances things with several nasty cracks from his whip. When he finally takes the bricks away and has her stand up, there are trenches in her legs from where the jagged surface has cut into her.

In the next scene, she is forced to stand with her feet tied together and her arms tied apart to opposite sides of the room. Randa covers her upper body with clothespins and brutally whips them off. But then he switches to a bullwhip and really cuts into her, leaving her body with several nasty red slashes. No fakery here. That bitch truly gets sliced up. For those who can stomach genuine whippings, it doesn't get much better than this. Then he suspends her upside-down and whips her even more.

When it comes to tying up women, Randa Mai is an especially cruel master. For his next abuse, he hangs her up in the air so that she's suspended horizontally like a porch swing. Then he piles even more bricks on her, this time on her back, and violently works over her pussy until she's screaming. Then he lowers her onto the dreaded horse (see the box cover). Like I said, he knows exactly what he's doing. He ties several of the heavy bricks to her ankles, really forcing her down hard onto the pointed surface of the horse, with all the weight being centered directly onto her tortured pussy. She grits her teeth and grimaces in pain as she endures this most uncomfortable position, and you can tell she's really suffering badly.

But it gets even worse, or better, depending on your point of view (Me, I was smiling). Randa Mai is a mean son of a bitch. He gets out his bullwhip again and proceeds to whip the shit out of her while she's in this precarious position, and boy, if she was screaming before, she really cuts loose this time. It was an incredible scene, worth the price of the DVD.

My only real complaints are that the woman in the movie is not exactly the most beautiful Japanese woman I've ever seen, although I think she's marginally attractive, especially when she's suffering, which is pretty much the case through the whole movie. Also, the action here is consensual, in that there's no damsel in distress plot like in the Attackers movies. She's simply a slave who willingly allows herself to be put through the ringer by a talented master, which takes away a bit of the fantasy (even a gag would have helped tremendously). But the action is superb, and this woman totally suffers for her art, as evidenced by the markings all over her body by the end. Definitely worth checking out, especially if you're a fan of whipping.
My grade: B

He got started in films as the rigger, and has moved more and more into the torturer role and more leading roles. His use of the whip, at least in film, is very new.

I'm looking for bondage DVDs with a somewhat real storyline and 2 girls are hung by their wrists, are facing each other, and maybe breasts are touching each other, or are clamped together so they wont try and pull away. Anyone know of any such bondage movies? Or something similar. If so, please post here or email me directly!

Thanks

Dan

To answer your question, I have seen some Attackers movies lately, including Attackers #85 and Attackers #86. They were OK, but nothing special -- nothing that inspired me to write a review.

However, I may critique them at some point. After all, it is still expected that saveonav.com will pull up shop and move out of Canada and into the U.S. in the near future. Once that happens, my ability to order Attackers movies will end, and that should leave plenty of time to review my backlog of current movies.

Meanwhile, I have a question: Is Rick still doing vanilla porn? I saw his name come up in a trailer for a vanilla movie, Bounce, that looked like a pretty new movie (the link is in my URL). I was surprised, as I somehow thought he was strictly a bondage guy these days.

http://www.powershotz.com/pzv119.mpg

Thanks Ralphus for posting my banner this week!

Ralphus: I don't think I have read one of your reviews since the release of the Jackbooth Job. It feels like it has been a long time.

I know, it has been a long time. I've been busy restoring all the reviews into the new format and I noticed myself that my last review was Jackbooth and before that, Mia's Abduction. I've got another review for Slave Labor half-written but it's temporarily on hold, and Paige White looks like she's disappeared anyway, so I don't feel especially rushed to finish it right now.

The thing is, I haven't really seen that many bondage movies over the past several months. I can't really afford to buy new ones and the few that I have seen were mediocre and not really worthy of a review for the board. Add to that a lack of time and a lack of privacy and that's why I haven't done many reviews. If I see something that rings my bell, though, I'll pipe in.

Meanwhile, everybody here is encouraged to write about whatever they've seen lately. Full reviews take time, but at least take a few sentences to let us know what you've seen that's good (or not so good). That's really all we ask. Information like that can be extremely useful to your fellow GIMPers.

Regarding Rick doing vanilla porn, I think the answer to that mystery is that there are two adult performers who use that name. To my knowledge, our Rick has only appeared as an actor in his own ZFX productions. The other Rick Masters, listed at the link above, is proof, along with Ron Jeremy, that ugly guys can still have a successful career in the adult industry.

They didn't show a picture of anyone in the trailer I saw that looked like Rick (although the trailer didn't really feature any men). However, I did see the name, and I didn't realize there are two people using that same name.

There's also a fascist/S&M wanker named Richard Wolstencraft aka Richard Masters here in Australia, who gives perversion and sadism a bad name, but there ya go. There's only one true 'Rick Masters', and we all know who that is ...

However, there are bootleg copies of the movie being sold by the DVD pirates. So perhaps Ralphus will have to start lurking in dark alleys to see if he can find a copy.

I don't imagine it will be hard to acquire in this Age of the Internet, but the fact that they aren't planning a North American DVD release is quite puzzling, and disturbing, too. Even though it's a Canadian film, could it be that US censors have something to do with it? Why wouldn't they want to make their money back on DVD, which is how most smaller films recoup their losses anymore?

Meanwhile, the outrageous new government regulations are being imposed onto mere artwork now. Here's a repost of an article that was e-mailed to me from one of my Yahoo groups last night:

It seems that the adult 3D online retailer, Renderotica, has become the latest unlucky victim thats been told to "clean up its act" by its credit card processor.

Renderotica is a website that sells various software for customers who like to create adult 3D art and it also has a section that allows people to upload their images onto the site galleries.

However, the site is now no longer allowed to sell software products that are used for creating images that depict the following:

-- Pornography depicting an individual being killed - "Snuff"

-- Pornography depicting nonconsensual sex - this includes bondage as well as individuals appearing to be drugged, asleep, hypnotized, forced sex, etc.

-- Pornography depicting sadistic or masochistic abuse

Images that depict any of the above are also forbidden to be uploaded to the renderotica site galleries.

Not looking good really, is it? Not even 3D artists are safe now!

Sorry I didn't include the link this morning to the Toronto Star story. It didn't slip my mind. The issue was that I was, once again, running late for work (It wasn't the first time. It won't be the last). I literally only had a few seconds to post my quick comments on Karla.

Anyway, the link is now included in my URL. I suppose it's possible this news that the movie won't be released on DVD only affects Canada, but I doubt that's the case as I don't believe Karla was ever released in theatres in the U.S.

As I stated in my official review, the movie isn't particularly good. (OK, the pros who get paid to review movies said the same thing). Perhaps the company that made Karla doesn't want to release it on DVD because there are fears the film could be a money loser. But in an age when Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo can make money, you would think there is an audience for anything.

The Attackers super special movie, SSPD-014 (see cover art in my URL), features some scenes where the pretty woman on the left in the cover photo is bound and takes a number of convincing slaps to the face from Randa Mai. (I haven't determined the name of the actress yet).

Actually, the movie is pretty good for those who like the typical Randa Mai activities -- rope play, whippings, candle wax, etc -- and I will likely review it at some point. At this stage, it's safe to say it's a worthwhile purchase for those who like to see a woman's face get slapped around.

The EP loops are great. Among my favorites. They're HOM bondage classic style loops taken to the next level...not to be missed!

However, that does not mean I don't have a few nits to pick. I realize that as an artist he's drawing what "he" likes best. At it's simplest form, he's in effect, allowing us to see what's going on in "his" mind.

Nevertheless, I wish he'd show more variety in his artwork. Most of his girls, as attractive as he draws them, look the same. He favors young blondes with long hair. (I know, so do most men) But do 90% of them have to be drawn that way?

Would it hurt him to include a few more redheads or brunettes? Or an older woman now and then? Or a girl with smaller tits or really big ones? Or better still, a woman with a natural bush? Surely he could throw some different types of hair styles into his art?

I know these are tiny criticisms and as I said above, nobody on the scene does bondage and rape drawings better than Roberts. That's why I care enough to make these observations.

Exactly. And what about dark-skinned women and Asians? Don't they "deserve" the same kind of "loving care"? (BEG)

Diversity is a wonderful thing!

So yes, he does occasionally veer off of the "long haired blonde" archetype he seemingly favors so much.

I would dearly love to see him draw some women with different figures and I'd give my eyeteeth to see him use and abuse a gal with a full, natural bush for a few panels....

Sadly, I don't see this scenario very often, and when I do it usually involves willing participants which takes away from most the allure for me. Watching them roll around, mmmphing their hearts out for help while their breasts inadvertently rub together is so freaking hot to me. It's amazing!

Anyone with video or pictures of this sort or who those who would like to chat with me about it can e-mail me or chat with me on Yahoo messenger provided you tell me your screen name.

Finally, there was an old Imago Studios video starring Kate Ladd and Mary Olsen as housecleaners who are tied together in various ways, culminating in them being tied together face to face. Anyone who knows the video I'm talking about and who has it please e-mail me as I'm willing to e-mail trade with you. If it's on VHS then I guess I'm out of luck but someone with a DVD of it I'd love to hear from. Thanks

I didn´t post for long because I didn´t have time to read the forum regularly. I´ve got a PC but no internet access at home so I have a look at the GIMP here and then.

The second reason is that for political reasons I try not to buy any US products as long as Bush is in power. Unfortunately that means that I didn´t buy any ZFX movie since a long time and so I have not much to contribute.

Nevertheless I´m very happy to see this forum still up and running. So keep on posting, guys!

Peace, Jaeckill

I am surprised to learn it was released in early 2006, as the movie only made its way to theatres in Canada in January 2006. I wonder if it went straight to DVD in the U.K.?

A Canadian comments: "But why do these people care about the way I live my life? I don't mean, simply, why don't they mind their own business (although I wish they would)? My question is aimed more at the psychology of these people -- why are they so obsessed with the lifestyles of others? It will likely never happen, but someone should do a psychiatric assessment of these social conservatives to try to explain why they think the way they do.

The answer is more religious/sociological than psychological -- A little thing called proselytizing -- a life devoted to spreading the word and making sure that others know how they are supposed to think and act.

If you ask me, that's the stuff of no redeeming value.

Also love the Roberts pics.

On the whole issue of social conservatives with a pathological desire to control how everyone else lives, I don't think your comments really address my point.

I can understand someone who believes, as a matter of faith, that he has to spread The Word and therefore wants to try to convince me of the errors of my ways. I may not agree with that person, but I can understand his motivations.

What I don't understand is the person who wants to change the laws to force me to live a pious lifestyle. Certainly, if accepting Jesus as my saviour is to have any meaning, it has to be a voluntary decision. Using the laws to try to force me to live a certain way isn't doing me any good in a spiritual sense.

So, I still question the motivation. To me, it seems pious people are envious of those who aren't similarly restrained in their activities, and I suspect they are motivated by envy more than a genuine desire to help others. But that's just a guess. As I said in my original post, I don't really know what motivates these people.

A class action suit against VISA? Certainly there are a shitload of other adult webmasters who have burned by the banks suddenly changing their policies and demanding all these changes. The artwork site Renderotica was one that I just reported on the other day. That's significant because we're not even talking about real performers anymore. It's just 3-D artwork that's being censored. No doubt Gary Roberts and other bondage artists will soon feel the wrath of this power-hungry government that's on a crusade. I'm not sure you can lay all the blame on VISA, since it's MasterCard, too. It's obvious that the government has put pressure on them not to accept a certain type of content, because it has reached epidemic proportions. If the producers just lay down and accept it, it will just keep on getting worse.