First off, I can see the appeal of getting right into the action, ala the HOM loops, but shooting them with no sound??? Those old bondage loops were great, but they were severely handicapped, IMO, by not having any audio. Sure the images were striking, but how much more effective would they have been if you could actually hear the sounds of whipping and the girls' muffled screams? It was the whole reason why I audio-dubbed my own versions of some of the HOM loops, and believe me, the difference is immeasurable. I'm sure if they had the resources back then, they would have put sound in their films as well. But to do it intentionally? That's like deciding to make a silent movie when sound is available or shooting your film in black and white instead of color. Maybe it would evoke a certain mood, but would it really improve things?

Face it, we have the best of all possible worlds going right now. ZFX already gives us the hottest girls, the cruelest tortures, nasty bondage rapes, and yes, even storylines that justify the actions that follow. We can hear all the dialogue and all the screaming, and even though the penetrations are simulated, at least there is no optical censoring like you would get with Japanese bondage tapes. You can see and hear everything. Right now, ZFX makes some of the best bondage shows in the world, and I would hate to see the ZFX formula messed with, even though a tape full of highlights is a good idea. Just shoot them with sound, PLEASE! :o)

excerpt of what I wrote Saturday July 29th 2000 12:03:47

As a big fan of HOMs output in it's early years, I'd like to see zfx or any production company, study the better HOM film loops, the style, lighting, content (zfx needs more HOM style crotchropes!), pacing, tight editing (yes I know part of the reason for tight editing was the 15 minutes max per reel, but that's not the only reason for good editing). The video could be called 'HOMage' and have four 20 to 40 minute HOM style segments on it. Plus add sound, dialog, music that works, and simulated rape and dildo insertion. And if it's good, it would be one instance where I wouldn't mind sequels!

excerpt of what RR wrote Saturday July 29th 2000 10:27:24

I’m also a major fan of the old HOM 8mm flicks. One of the nice things about the short format of those old loops is that exposition and plot were kept to a minimum so that the focus would be on the content in the films. I’ve found that those old loops maintained about a perfect balance. When Blakemore expanded to the longer video format, he started throwing in all sorts of extraneous exposition that kept my finger on the fast forward button till he got back to the content that I wanted. I’m not against having a plot or a backdrop to the action. There’s a fine line between exposition and content. A certain amount of backdrop is nice and adds to the flavor of the video. At the same time, there’s, a point where it’s intruding on the action and every additional minute spent on plot is taking a minute away from the action that I spent my money to see. This has got to be frustrating for a director because there’s only so many ways to torment a woman in a ZFX video before the sequences get repetitive to direct. I can sympathize with that, but I’m also into these videos for very specific reasons.

excerpt of what Damien wrote Saturday July 29th 2000 07:49:58

Due to some (recurring) technical problems, I haven't been able to read this excellent board for a while, but what a pleasant surprise to see HOM discussed again. If it wasn't for ZFX, HOM would be my all-time favorite.

Not only the 15 min. loops, but also some of the full lenght vids are very good. Like Tourist Trap 1 & 2, The Experiment and of course Curiousity Excited the Cat.

Speaking of HOM: What could make ZFX even better (is that possible???) are some more close-ups of faces expressing fear and terror. And close-ups if tied hands...oh boy, do I enjoy those in the HOM-tapes.

excerpt of what Rick wrote Tuesday August 1st 2000 06:26:19

HOM: Someone (RR....zeeefex?)mentioned I should study HOMs loops. WTF you think I been doing hehe! Seriously, still look at these pieces, they were very well done, and are practically a lighting and position text book to making good bondage flix. Film has a very appealing look that people like, mainly due to the much higher resolution of even 8mm film which has about 3000-4000dpi as opposed to a far lower count for video, better contrast and color reproduction, a different frame rate and other differences that just make it look better. Too expensive though. Anyway I have pretty much every HOM tape ever made(no I cant lend any to you), and I have learned alot from them. They are still very much a measuring stick to be compared with in this genre. This is back in the day before tattoos and tit jobs were impossible to avoid and girls still had a bush, ok maybe a little TOO much bush but...

...and there's more, which you'll be able to read in the archives, if you want, when Maddog updates them.

So, obviously, I second, third, or wherever my vote fits in, your "ZFX Bondage Classics" idea. However, I think it should have sound (it's easy enough to watch it silently by turning the volume down). But the sound doesn't have to be perfect during the production shoot. Sound can be dealt with in post production, dialog can be replaced (ADR), sound fx can be added in to enhance things, foley, etc. So Rick could just pay attention to how the video looks during the shoot, and add sound later. Would it cost more to produce videos this way? Somewhat, but the quality you can get from adding great sound to video (even average video) actually enhances the look of the video. If you've ever seen footage of movies and TV shows before post production sound is added, and then seen it after, you know what I'm talking about. It would also mean Pene Pace, who can act, could replace some of the dialog of hot looking actresses who look great on camera, but can't deliver lines nearly as well. Just my view.

And on another note, a mini review. Just the other day, found and watched Gangland 1, one of four zfx videos I own. It's about an hour. The first half hour I thought was paced fairly well, though the villain talked too much, and again, it had my pet peeve against zfx videos, the music (50s style scifi music that might fit people with flashlights out in the boonies searching for UFOs, but didn't contribute anything here), made me turn the sound down til I could barely hear it. But still the action was pretty good. The last half hour was why I didn't seek out to buy Gangland 2. The good pacing that this video started with then became a 30 minute crawl of Kerri tied spread eagle to a bed the whole time. Mr. Zen uses clothespins, candle wax and whips her some (Kerri, who's acting was better earlier, was barely responsive to the whipping). This scene could have been edited down to about 10 minutes, and then the content shown in the short preview scenes of Gangland 2 (which looked hot) should have been in this vid. I guess you could say I'm not a big fan of sequel- itis, stretching out the contents of what should be one video into two, for whatever reason, and thus making the first video mediocre in the process when it could have been much better. But maybe that's just me. I give the first half hour a B, and the last half hour a D.

http://www.fivestardvd.com/home.asp?source=1000

I just found this one about a month ago and can insure you that they deliver good product and service. It's an all adult DVD site. The part that will make you all want to check it out is that they have allot HOM loops on DVD. Just go to the GENRE drop box, select Bondage/Fetish, and you will find them. You can't beat their prices either. For example, for those of you into adult anime, they have the complete LaBlue Girl Box set for just over $30.00. The closest I've seen anyone come to that price is Animenation at $67.00. They have the new Imma Youja box set for $53.00 while animenation is over $100.00. And this is DVD man! I realize that there probably aren't that many anime fans in here, but I'm just giving you a comparison to let you know just how good their prices are.

http://www.bdsmartwork.com/home.htm

This next one has quickly become my favorite site. It just opened about a month and a half ago, and for those of you familiar with Dofantasy, it's from the same people. It is a pay site and the fee is a hefty $29.99 a month. I can't emphasize enough that it is worth every penny. Just go to the home page and look at the picture that they have posted from the incredibly gifted artist Gary Roberts and you will have some sense of what you are in store for when you go inside. They don't have a free samples section, but I'm telling you, it's worth the leap of faith on this one guys. You will be numb from all of the INCREDIBLE art they have posted inside. I haven't found a picture in there yet that didn't capture some kind of feeling for me. It is fantasy are at its best, and believe me, I've been to a LOT of fantasy art sites. All of it is downloadable to your hard drive, so if you have a CD-R you can create one hell of a CD. They also update quite often.

I know that this is starting to sound like SPAM, but I'm telling you I have nothing to do with either of these sites, I'm just trying to let you guys in on some cyber gold that I've stumbled across. Hope some of you enjoy the sites, and also start posting some that you have all found. You all know it's hard to find good sites.

Unless you couldn't tell, I had a little free time tonight. (^_^)

PEACE

So I say HERE HERE, LONG LIVE RICK AND HIS CAST OF HOT CHICKS BEING BEATEN AND RAPED FOR OUR PLEASURE!!!

Now there's something you don't hear everyday. (^_^)

Ok, I'm really done this time.

Later

I have to agree with you that I prefer the older stuff a lot of the time when it comes to porn, though after a long and boring interval it does seem to be getting better again. We'll see. My point would be more along the lines that though I like the older stuff, I can't find it anymore. B&D, SM, whatever your stripe of specialty vid is a niche market. They have naturally longer shelf lives because the people who want to see that stuff don't have the selection available to them that mainstream folks enjoy.

I've never seen an HOM loop, or a pre-Meese bondage release (hey--that rhymed!). I've never seen them locally, or any of the other bondage/BD pron vids made in the 70's or early 80's. Not for lack of searching, mind you. I am terminally enamored of hot pants and spandex, staples of those days. It's funny, but I tried in the early 90's to order some bondage vids from old magazines and catalogues that I had. All the companies involved were either not carrying them anymore, or were just out of business. I finally found Bon-Vue in an AVN magazine, and that led to ZFX a couple years later. I'd love to see some of the old flicks where bondage and porno ran together, but only ever saw one or two.

In any event, my original statement was that most of this stuff fades away quickly. Classics endure, because they generate an ongoing buzz. Everything else just drops as society overtakes it. You know what I think? I think the bondage formula is "broken" right now, compared to society. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think a clue falls in one statistic. Right now men and women under 25 have the same buying patterns. But men and women over 25 do not. GenX is a lot less gender-specific than previous generations. The girls dress hot (been to a club lately?), and are bold. Not exactly waifish victim-types. How does that fit in here? I'll let youse guys figure that out. It makes my head hurt.

Peace,

Iago

Now I'm certainly not accusing anyone of racism. That would be silly. All I'm saying is that there are INCREDIBLY hot African American women out there, surely there have to be some that would be up for getting roughed up and raped in a ZFX video.

Rick, if at all possible, I would really like to hear your opinion of this subject. Is there any possibility in your eyes of this happening any time soon? Is it just that hard to find black women who are willing to do this sort of thing? I know I would REALLY like to see it happen, and I bet others would to. PLEASE respond, I'm eager to hear your opinion on this matter. Thanks.

I see your point, (i'm not slow, I'm just not fast) the older videos were probally much better but you are right they are hard to find. I think that the old "Vanilla" ones are making their way back on the store shelves, partially from people selling their collection and partially from re-releases. Although the bondage ones would be much harder to find.

But like I said, in this day and age where society is always looking for the next shocking thing, the classics dont have as much appeal so they will give up their shelf life to the newer stuff

Re: Howie

I am not speaking for Rick, but I think the only reason he hasnt shot a black chick yet is because he hasnt had the oppurtunity to do so yet. I am sure that he would be very much for it as well given the oppurtunity.

http://www.realdoll.com/lite/index.html

Let me first straighten some things out. There are so many subjects that I know almost nothing about that you could fill entire volumes of encyclopedias with what I don't know. The same holds for every person on this earth, and any one who would say otherwise is a pompous ass who knows even less than he or she thinks they do. But hopefully each person finds something in this world that interests them and learns a great deal about that subject. It's called a career. I am graduating Magna Cum Laude with a Bachelors in Computer Information Systems in about three weeks. During that time I have written several papers and given quite a few presentations on things such as digital compression of video, digital technology, and HDTV. The reason for letting you know this is not to toot my own horn, only to let you know that one of the last things on earth I need to be lectured on are the merits of this burgeoning technology. I'm quite aware of its advantages and pitfalls.

In your post you say, "My bet is that the DVD is a generation loss taken from the video and the image quality, at best, is the same as the video version, and possibly worst."

Well lets first go with your assumption that the picture is the same quality as the video transfer. If that is in fact the case you would still be in better shape buying the DVD because digital video doesn't suffer from things such as attenuation or signal noise. If you don't know what either of these are, look them up. I have no desire to explain them. Not to mention as long as the picture quality is the same on the DVD, you now have the option of using S- video or Component hook ups on your TV to further bring out the clarity in the picture.

Now lets go with your case scenario of the picture being worse than the video transfer. As I mentioned earlier, S- video or Composite connections could quickly bring the picture quality up to snuff with the analog video signal, not to mention that the digital picture will never suffer any loss in quality because it doesn't degrade with time and continual viewing. It will look just as good in five years as it did the first time you watched it. So as you see, there are quite a few more advantages to owning the DVD than simply not having a player "eat your disk."

Now lets go with your whole argument about people paying top dollar for new technologies just because they are new. I have no idea who you are preaching to. My whole point in showing people this site was because the DVD's were CHEAPER than the videos by almost $15. Did you somehow miss that fact?

All I was doing was trying to continue Rick's idea of people here posting new sites for people in the forum to check out because I thought it was a good one.

Let's take the worst case scenario and say someone went ahead, paid the $14, and the DVD was not up to their standards. So what? Wow, they are now out $14 dollars. How will they ever eat again? But the point here is that I have dealt with this distributor in the past and can vouch for their quality of service and product. As a matter of fact I'm receiving some DVD's from them tomorrow. They are a quality site and I was only trying to let other members of the forum know about them. If you don't want to try them, believe me when I tell you I'm not going to loose any sleep over it.

RR wrote...

...depending on which HOM Bondage Classics DVDs are being sold, they might be illegal copies. If you go to Lyndon's website, they're selling some of the early ones for $14.75.

Wasn't able to connect to the fivestardvd site today, but I did the other day and I believe the BC DVDs they have are the same numbers (2,4,5 and 6) as on Lyndon's site. Have seen #2 in vhs, didn't care that much for it. Haven't seen #4, but it doesn't look like Blakemore's work to me. Have #5, has a few ok loops, but pales in comparison to #6, which rules!!

I'd be curious if anybody has access to both the video and the DVD version to tell whether any effort was made to get a better quality image on the DVD by going back to the original film stock. My bet is that the DVD is a generation loss taken from the video and the image quality, at best, is the same as the video version, and possibly worst.

Now that I know it's available in DVD, I'll probably go ahead and get #6. I'll let you know. My bet is that they didn't go back to the original film stock to transfer the 8mm film to video, but hopefully when they did the original transfer way back when, they did it to a BetaSP or 3/4" master tape, or at very least to S-VHS (and not VHS). If they transfer the high quality master tape to a DVD glass master (generation loss would be negligable), the stamped DVDs should look much better than their VHS tape counterparts. Of course, if they used one of the VHS dubbed tapes to transfer to DVD, yeah, then it would look virtually the same.

I'm always amazed at how willing technology junkies are to believe that anything new they get is better than the old. Just because a new technology exists, some folks are willing to pay a premium price to get an inferior product. When DVD is done right, it's superior to tape. When it's shovelware video tranferred to DVD, it's junk. Picture quality is a generation away from the original and the only advantage is that a DVD player won't ever eat the disk.

Don't want to start a flame war here, and I don't know what you mean by technology junkies, but no one I know personally, who's into high technology, automatically assumes that a new technology is better than old. Lot of people I know feel pro analog audio still holds its own when compared to pro digital. That said, for video playback, DVD is better than VHS, not because it's newer, but because it's better. If someone does a poor quality transfer to DVD, it's not the technologies fault. And if you transfer from any format video through high quality A/D converters to a digital master there is (virtually) no generation loss, at least nothing like the loss you get when dubbing from anything to a VHS tape.

I see the same thing happening with EBooks that cost as much as real books, Photo CDs selling for 6X what a mag costs with less images and lower image resolution, and streaming video as expensive as real video at a quarter of the resolution. New isn't always better and neither is cost. Just because a DVD is more expensive than a video doesn't mean it's better. It only means the company is ripping us off because it costs less to punch a disk on a press than it does to make a video (same goes for audio CDs vs. cassettes).

Haven't looked into Ebooks, or bought Photo CDs, or paid for streaming video. You know as well as I do, when something new comes out it's usually priced higher than you'll find it a few years down the road. You can get popular mainstream movies on VHS for less than $20 or $10 now. But two or three years ago, these same types of movies on VHS were selling for around $50 to $80. As far as companies ripping us off, did you know that a lot of the time when a mainstream movie is to be transferred to DVD, the sound is totally remixed, often with a version for 5.1 audio which didn't exist when the movie was first released, sound effects are enhanced, sometimes redone, adjustments are made to the look of the picture (adjusting color, for example) as well. Not to mention multi-language issues, and navigation programming. This stuff costs money. Could prices be lower? Sure, and they will be, might take a year or two. Are we being ripped off? Most DVDs around me are $20 to $25, sometimes even cheaper. Not too horrible, and you can now rent instead of purchasing.

And now to bring this back to on topic, when is ZFX going to offer DVDs? $14.75 seems like a good price for them. Ok, maybe $30.

I'd rather talk about the flix than the formats.

Lisa said she might go "further" in the flix if she knew what that meant. Here are my suggestions:

1. Let's see a forced kissing scene, Lisa and another girl tied standing face to face, instructed to kiss each other by some maniac who keeps whipping them, inserting things into them, etc., who tells them whenever they stop kissing, If you stop you're not going to get out of here alive. For that matter, it could be forced cunt-lapping, but the point is let's see some over-the-top bound lesbianism.

2. Let's see some real painful clothespin action. Yes, dem clothespins are annoying, slightly naggingly painful when clamped over a healthy piece of nipple meat. But try affixing just the corner of a clothespin to the nipple, and listen to the howls. You can try this at home, boys and girls. A clothespin with just the tip snagging the flesh (try the webbing between your stretched fingers) is far more painful than with the whole top of the clothespin being used for this purpose. And, Rick? We viewers know this.

3. Similarly, let's see more discomforting discomfort. Ball gags and cleave gags are nice, but how about using a long penis gag once in a while? If you don't have one or can't find one, maybe you could jerry-rig one using a ring- gag and a large butt-plug. Again, some of us more sophisticated viewers (smile) would like occasionally to see real pain and discomfort rather than mere enactments of same.

Nasty enough for ya? What's on your to-do list for Lisa?

zee-ef-ex

Howie: You're right, out of all of ZFX's works, there have been no black actresses, and only one Asian girl, in the "Tiffany Twisted" tapes. Again, I'm guessing it's more a lack of available performers than anything else. I'm sure if Rick found a black girl who looked like Vanity who was willing to be put through the ZFX endurance test, he would jump at it. Okay, if any of you don't know who Vanity was, that's just me showing my age. Trust me, she was hot!

Laughingboy: You're right, Insex has a black girl who appeared in one of their two videos they released to the public before sadly deciding that all of their future shows would be online only (What a stupid move!). She stars in "The Weekend", which can be ordered by going to the Insex link at Slave Labor Productions. I added the URL as my Homepage URL above. I ordered both Insex tapes, and I have to say I liked "The Taming of paige" much more than the other one, mainly because the blonde victim in "Taming" was such a babe! It really makes a difference for me, and improves any tape IMO, if the girl is very attractive. But both tapes feature very ingenious bondage positions and tortures, many of which I've never seen done before. I would recommend them both. That's why it's a shame that Insex is now limiting themselves to strictly online shows, which makes them less accessible to the public and makes it less than convenient to view their material.

The Lyndon DVDs are a good deal. In general, DVD pricing reflects the model used by the audio CD industry to charge more for a product that's cheaper to produce than cassettes. They do it solely because the public is willing to pay the price. The pricing for VHS movies is interesting because it was a completely new technology that put full length movies into the hands of the average consumer which wasn't possible before (8mm was inpractical for a full movie because of length, about 15 min for a reel, and 16mm was prohibitively expensive). When video first came out, it was an expensive process to dupe them because the manufactureres didn't have the kind of high speed recorders that they did for cassettes. Even once that technology was conquered, the movie studios didn't know how to price them. There was a paranoid period where they throught video would kill theatres and video prices were kept high probably more to make up for projected lost revenues. Then there was a short time when the studios tried to stick it to video rental stores by jacking up the initial price of blockbusters for a few weeks, knowing that customers rent the most during the first weeks of a release, and then released a consumer priced version that was more affordable. Finally, it appears that the studios are comfortable with the current pricing and are making more money out of video releases than from theatres even though theatre profits are better than ever.

Some of you dudes are getting way too thin skinned. I was attacking an industry, not anybody here. My post was more for people that don't have DVD players yet. Personally, I'm not enamored with DVD because the TVs we have are the limiting factor to picture quality. I've got DVD on my computer and I was really disappointed about the picture quality on a large monitor. It's modestly better than video, but I'm holding off on an entertainment DVD player till hi-definition TV makes some inroads. Some movie studios have added some cool features to DVDs, like full scripts, production notes, behind-the scenes photos, extra narrative tracks discussing the making of the movie while it's running and those make it worth the extra price. The shovelware stuff isn't worth paying the premium.

Having bought many of the old 8mm HOM loops, I've always been disappointed in the drab look that the converted videos have. "Rude Revenge" was so beautifully lit and had rich colors that got lost in the conversion and looks fairly drab on video. I'll be looking forward to any feedback by somebody who can compare the DVD version of these classics versus the videos, but I don't have much expectation that they've done much more than copy the video. The budget pricing for the classics is great, but most DVD releases cost more and adult ones are going from video to DVD rather than the movie studios that at least have much better 35mm prints to work from when they release a DVD. For somebody who hasn't made the investment in a DVD player, there's little on the adult DVD side to warrant the jump.

As a fan of breast bondage, I must say that I really like the work that Insex and House of Slavery are doing. However, I have heard that there is bad blood between them (House of Slavery was started by Rachel Paine and Viking after they left Insex). Rick, you know I have been lamenting that you haven't had a natural breasted model willing to do good breast bondage for a while, but I knoe Peaches at Insex has done a lot, and she's ALL NATURAL. If your not familiar with her, drop me an e-mail, and I will send you a jpg. I think she would be GREAT in your control. Also, at HoS, Rachel Paine has smaller titties, but subjects them to TIGHT bondage (same offer on the pic). There are some others, but those are the two I am obsessing most on these days. I think Peaches could finally take up where Victoria Vixxen left off. You have to see her to beleive her. Rick, please please PLEASE could you look into that?

I think a couple points may be getting lost here. Someone steer me back if I am wrong.

Regarding penetration in ZFX: Rick has made it plain that it is his choice not to include penetration in his vids, not the squeamishness of the models. Given the sheer quantity of porn out there and the number of women working it, I kind of doubt that affordability of a model for this would be too much of a problem, either. If memory serves, Rick has stated that he has both legal and artistic reasons for not wanting to do real penetration. Frankly, after seeing Ballista 2, I am satisfied with Rick's abilities here, and like where he is going. But, what the hell, I'm a sci-fi freak who digs that kind of thing, so what do I know.

Regarding Rick remaking old HOM reels: The precise reason I like Rick, and the reason I suspect he has such a dedicated following, is because he does his own thing, rather than apeing the work of others. Like many of you, I have also noticed in recent years what I have seen termed as "The ZFX formula." Rick is certainly a whipper and electrocutor in his evil little heart, with sexual aspects sometimes even taking a backseat to the torture, but sometimes he hits a really neat notion very squarely, and makes a vid that no one else can touch, IMO. Besides, the guy has bills to pay, just like the rest of us, and if that formula sells, more power to him.

Peace Out, and happy holiday, folks.

Iago

I'm thinking about ordering a couple of ZFX tapes in the next couple days, and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations? Bear in mind I'm a torture-for-sexual-purpose type, not a torture-for-its-own-sake type, and I favor sci-fi themes. I was sort of looking at Gangland 3&4 (I like Darby from Alien Probe 2), maybe Guinea Pigs 4 (the only one I never saw), or maybe Future Shock, Spectre or a Whiplash tape. I saw the original Whiplash and it wasn't my thing, but some of the others look like they might be promising.

Also, I'm a little disappointed in JMC Distributing and Fantasy Food. Neither one of them seems to have any deals going on ZFX, and $45 a pop is pricey. Does anyone know of any reputable (read: Fast shipping and no piratical attitudes)dealers that have ZFX at a more palatable price right now?

Thanks,

Iago

Rats. Ah, well. Guess I'll give my pal Joe at JMC a call. He always sounds so sleepy when I call him at 2:00am, I'm almost hesitant to...nah.

Gotta love 24X7 order lines!

Peace,

Iago

Iago: If you were a fan of Darby Fox, who had a huge tattoo across her chest and breasts that looked like deflated balloons, you should definitely check out both Gangland 3 and 4. While I think they were a slight comedown from the excellent first two parts, there is plenty there to like. She is also featured in a dominant role in "Spectre".

All the "Guinea Pigs" tapes are worthwhile. Holly Weston really shines in Part 4; I remember her stealing the tape from the other performers, her acting was so good.

The best of the "Whiplash" series, IMO, are numbers 2 and 4. The reviews for the two most recent volumes of the series are archived in the Guestbook Archives. Click on my Homepage URL link above if you want to read them.

The real jewel of the tapes you were considering is "Future Shock", one of my Top Ten ZFX titles. Alison Parish, Courtney Bishop and Victoria Vixxen all have memorable scenes. There is bondage rape, at least two electrical shock scenes, a multi-clothespin-all-over-the-body scene, and even a futuristic plot. It's been a few years since I've seen it, but this tape has always ranked very high on my list of the best work ZFX has put out.

Damien

Looks like Spectre and GP4 for me this time around, then!

Peace,

Iago

Again, love your stuff. See if you can get Penelope Pace to answer some questions. That would rule.

This has always been my theory about the scene: it was some sort of special effects snafu (this was the first time I remember Rick attempting this sort of effect) and he covered it up by inserting the green bar over the entire scene. I never really thought it was Rick attempting some sort of self-censorship, like the Japanese do by fogging genitalia in many of their tapes. But what a perfect forum for us all to find out the truth. Eagerly awaiting your next post, Rick...

Check out this link. It has Rape videos, older porno's(the Classics) as well as some of the Women in Prison videos. Also has some Japenese stuff. The prices seem pretty low also.

Did you forget one teeny, tiny detail?

BTW, what happened to the Add an Entry link? It's not working; you have to go back to the main page to post.