Customs chatter (all producers)

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yyy02 wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:41 pm
Floor13 wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:15 am ...
That Mari one was my custom. Alas she just pulled a silly face and wobbled her head a bit, despite me showing a clip of that and saying don't do it. And gave a clip of how she should act. Also, you'll see no leather cuffs on her ankles, despite me specifying. And her pose is asymmetrical (not her fault). Having her arms and legs at different heights and angles just doesn't do it for me. The ropes were not the same length so she's uneven.

I also said have a knife threatening bit at the start. 60 seconds max. Feels like 10 minutes. So all that suspension time lost.

Just another example of ignoring what is asked for.

Sometimes I do wonder if Alex can open and view some of the files we send to him.
I had kind of a similar experience in that I sent him a short gif on “groping” which I wanted incorporated. It seemed to be ignored.
I mean there was groping but he did it “his way”. Either that or the actress specified how/where she could be groped.

Sometimes I just have to remember that I’m just one of the clients. Not the client. :)

Usually it turns out “okay”. There was one instance where the ties just didn’t come out the way I wanted to. I went back and forth with White Rose, and actually ventured that I’d pay for a re-shoot with the stricter bondage. But to White Rose’ credit, in the end she really didn’t think the actress (Waldberg) could do it to my satisfaction.
So I could see some of the difficulties (and Wahlberg is not as flexible as Cry), so we left it at that.

Here is some of the "guidance" I provided, after they had shot and I was unhappy with the product. To give them credit, they did come up with a shorter spreader...

WB_elbow tie1_cw short spreader_w-ties_txt.jpg


To Wahlberg's credit, I think she emoted well, and looked good. It just didn't look like "torture".


The shorter spreader, perfect for arms/elbows straight up and down:

cw_shortspreader1.jpg
It isn't just them, it is the majority of custom producers.
PKF used to take their time and give you what you wanted BUT cost a LOT more...
(That said, they still needed to sell their films, so you still can't get an overweight model or a MILF... THeir idea of MILF is non-descript 30 year old with a belly piercing).

That example you sent above, they made that? I'll have to have a look. THat is a nasty position if I'm reading it right, rope pulling through the elbow joint as the only point of suspension? Ouch (And I weigh nothing.)


I do have some behind-the-scenes stuff of Alex telling Tay how to scream, and playing the example from his laptop. And (I don't speak russian, but I can read the body language and expressions) she said angrily "I am!" and stuck her tongue out behind his back. Clearly she wasn't... I mean... no. So he definetly tried back in the day. Now he does one a day and sleeps 3 hours a night... So...

I know what you mean "one of the clients." I agree, but I hate to be more of a Karen than usual, as far as my bank account is concerned, I am THE ONE AND ONLY client.


THere was a scene where boiling water is poured over Theresa.
There wasn't much water in the kettle, so the whole pouring asthetic was lost as he had to hold it up 'too high' to get the water out. Does that make sense? And the editor chose a camera angle where you don't really see the pour. And the reaction from having boiling water poured over her head was "Ugh, I think I forgot to lock the door."

It is basically fast food. Yes, it is technically food. It is calories and legally it is food. But it does not have the asthetic you were after (which was the whole reason for requesting it in the first place).


I had a custom at MFX made. 3 girls, chewing and spitting food into the mouth of their slave.
1) THey chose to film outside. I hate outdoor shoots. Crap lighting (THe sun will provide!), exterior noise, flies.
2) I specified spaghetti bolognaise, and showed pictures of how it should look. THey used the cooked pasta and ignored the sauce.

I know it is all First-World-Problems, but it just takes its toll on my bank account and my spirit. I work with men and women recovering from cancer and other injuries trying to mitigate scars, and some plastic surgery. FLogging the puke out of my partner when I get home mitigates some of that, as does her beating the piss out of me sometimes. Sometimes getting the custom is also the answer. And then you unwrap your gift and it's not a PS5 (Is that still the thing? Switch 2?), but it's a Sega Megadrive (Coudn't think of a better example, I'm PC master race).



Alex is shooting Saturday. Sent a brief message this morning to hammer home 1 tiny thing that I didn't emphasize enough in my original over-the-top explanations. That one will kind of be on me. I stupidly thought they would assume what I meant, and looking back "WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!?!?"
Trust me, You'll like it... Eventually.
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Floor13 wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 8:06 am...
It isn't just them, it is the majority of custom producers.
PKF used to take their time and give you what you wanted BUT cost a LOT more...


That example you sent above, they made that? I'll have to have a look. THat is a nasty position if I'm reading it right, rope pulling through the elbow joint as the only point of suspension? Ouch (And I weigh nothing.)
...
Alex is shooting Saturday. Sent a brief message this morning to hammer home 1 tiny thing that I didn't emphasize enough in my original over-the-top explanations. That one will kind of be on me. I stupidly thought they would assume what I meant, and looking back "WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!?!?"
...
PKF used to take their time and give you what you wanted BUT cost a LOT more...
Yeah, like 10x more. Either that or they just gave me a figure that was way over what they normally charge to get rid of me. It worked. 😊

That example you sent above, they made that?
Yes they made that spreader, the pic example was mine.
It wasn’t even suspension.
It was just trussed tight, with the securing ropes pulled through the crooks of the elbows and the knee joints. To hold her upright at first, stretched taut, then stretched taut supine in the second part.
Just to be clear, stretched taut is different than than stretched tight, in my estimation. Stretched taut means no loose ropes or bindings, or limbs.
The focus was supposed to be her naked torso. Just, you know, something a little bit different.

So initially, I got this…
WB example_cr.jpg

I tried to understand, that every model has her limits, and they’re all different, and continuously changing.
I figured: try and approximate some of the positions by myself... do-able, I thought. And Wahlberg is a healthy young woman, right, so … but, no.
“lost in translation”? White Rose and I communicated fairly extensively about this, so even barring the communication difficulties…Like you, I figure that images should illustrate exactly what I’m after, right?

Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts, always welcome. Your candor always shines through. :D

TL:DR I share your frustration. But I keep going back to the well, in the hopes... (At least while funds allow) :lol:

TBH, Alex' dungeon, with the multitude of implements on the wall, sort of reminds me of an "Adult" store, like on Sunset Blvd in Hollywood (at least back in the day), or in Van Nuys, in the Valley. :P
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Re: Customs chatter (all producers)

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Floor13 wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 8:06 am
yyy02 wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:41 pm
Floor13 wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:15 am ...
That Mari one was my custom. Alas she just pulled a silly face and wobbled her head a bit, despite me showing a clip of that and saying don't do it. And gave a clip of how she should act. Also, you'll see no leather cuffs on her ankles, despite me specifying. And her pose is asymmetrical (not her fault). Having her arms and legs at different heights and angles just doesn't do it for me. The ropes were not the same length so she's uneven.

I also said have a knife threatening bit at the start. 60 seconds max. Feels like 10 minutes. So all that suspension time lost.

Just another example of ignoring what is asked for.

Sometimes I do wonder if Alex can open and view some of the files we send to him.
I had kind of a similar experience in that I sent him a short gif on “groping” which I wanted incorporated. It seemed to be ignored.
I mean there was groping but he did it “his way”. Either that or the actress specified how/where she could be groped.

Sometimes I just have to remember that I’m just one of the clients. Not the client. :)

Usually it turns out “okay”. There was one instance where the ties just didn’t come out the way I wanted to. I went back and forth with White Rose, and actually ventured that I’d pay for a re-shoot with the stricter bondage. But to White Rose’ credit, in the end she really didn’t think the actress (Waldberg) could do it to my satisfaction.
So I could see some of the difficulties (and Wahlberg is not as flexible as Cry), so we left it at that.

Here is some of the "guidance" I provided, after they had shot and I was unhappy with the product. To give them credit, they did come up with a shorter spreader...

WB_elbow tie1_cw short spreader_w-ties_txt.jpg


To Wahlberg's credit, I think she emoted well, and looked good. It just didn't look like "torture".


The shorter spreader, perfect for arms/elbows straight up and down:

cw_shortspreader1.jpg
It isn't just them, it is the majority of custom producers.
PKF used to take their time and give you what you wanted BUT cost a LOT more...
(That said, they still needed to sell their films, so you still can't get an overweight model or a MILF... THeir idea of MILF is non-descript 30 year old with a belly piercing).

That example you sent above, they made that? I'll have to have a look. THat is a nasty position if I'm reading it right, rope pulling through the elbow joint as the only point of suspension? Ouch (And I weigh nothing.)


I do have some behind-the-scenes stuff of Alex telling Tay how to scream, and playing the example from his laptop. And (I don't speak russian, but I can read the body language and expressions) she said angrily "I am!" and stuck her tongue out behind his back. Clearly she wasn't... I mean... no. So he definetly tried back in the day. Now he does one a day and sleeps 3 hours a night... So...

I know what you mean "one of the clients." I agree, but I hate to be more of a Karen than usual, as far as my bank account is concerned, I am THE ONE AND ONLY client.


THere was a scene where boiling water is poured over Theresa.
There wasn't much water in the kettle, so the whole pouring asthetic was lost as he had to hold it up 'too high' to get the water out. Does that make sense? And the editor chose a camera angle where you don't really see the pour. And the reaction from having boiling water poured over her head was "Ugh, I think I forgot to lock the door."

It is basically fast food. Yes, it is technically food. It is calories and legally it is food. But it does not have the asthetic you were after (which was the whole reason for requesting it in the first place).


I had a custom at MFX made. 3 girls, chewing and spitting food into the mouth of their slave.
1) THey chose to film outside. I hate outdoor shoots. Crap lighting (THe sun will provide!), exterior noise, flies.
2) I specified spaghetti bolognaise, and showed pictures of how it should look. THey used the cooked pasta and ignored the sauce.

I know it is all First-World-Problems, but it just takes its toll on my bank account and my spirit. I work with men and women recovering from cancer and other injuries trying to mitigate scars, and some plastic surgery. FLogging the puke out of my partner when I get home mitigates some of that, as does her beating the piss out of me sometimes. Sometimes getting the custom is also the answer. And then you unwrap your gift and it's not a PS5 (Is that still the thing? Switch 2?), but it's a Sega Megadrive (Coudn't think of a better example, I'm PC master race).



Alex is shooting Saturday. Sent a brief message this morning to hammer home 1 tiny thing that I didn't emphasize enough in my original over-the-top explanations. That one will kind of be on me. I stupidly thought they would assume what I meant, and looking back "WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!?!?"
Getting a Sega Megadrive instead of a Switch 2 is a blessing. :lol:
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