AI???

[bakerboy]

Most web based AI tools are restricted. ........ - bondage is okay, topless is okay, but nudity gets flagged.

Wow I did not know that. So AI adult videos I am waiting to develop ( see the Paris clip on p 2) are already censored. Good riddance, I will wait until the technology is developed enough to bypass these PC idiots. I guess I need to stick to a live production for now. Saaaaaad

The Paris clip is not made with a web based (and potentially censored/restricted) AI tool. It's most likely made with a local AI server installation, for capacity and performance reasons. No web based AI tool can handle the workload needed for such a large scale and professional production.

It's not the AI tool (software) itself that is restricted/censored, it's the AI model the tool uses:

Example: ComfyUI is the tool, the software running on your machine. It can't do anything unless you load it with an AI model.
The AI model is the "brain" that actually generates the content (pictures or movies). The AI tool (e.g. ComfyUI) is the software the runs the AI model.

There are plenty of AI models out there: Stable DIffusion, Flux, MidJourney etc... some are restricted, some are not.

I use Flux.1 Dev, which in the base version is restricted: it does not allow nudity.
However, since Flux is open source, it can be "re-trained" to allow pretty much anything... so there are Flux variants available that allows nudity and sex!
Consequently, I can do nude stuff with Flux, as you can see in my DeviantArt gallery I linked to above!

But: you're unlikely to find these Flux versions in the web based AI tools... you need to run them on your own AI tool. And for the kind of productions you want to do, you will need to run your own AI tool anyway, for capacity and performance reasons!

Nice analysis, but to me is as explaining neurosurgery All the Fluxes, Comfyies, Midjourneys, AI tools are so much geek talk and in my age I do NOT plan to learn. As a reasonably successful producer of live action movies, I am looking for somebody who can make for me a video in a quality I posted on p 2. and I will pay a " good dollar" for it, or even investing into a business able to make stuff like that, all the fluxes "notwithstanding.

Also, I did look at your Deviant Art ( only allowed me to see 2 pictures) they look great, but the problem is they are pictures. Almost impossible to monetize them .. It is video where the money are, and NOT little silly music clips as my post on p2 but a real story driven and sexy movie.....

[yyy02]

Hello folks, would you mind posting any further AI info to: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1247

There's so much good information that we wouldn't want to get lost among diverging threads. Thanks!

[bakerboy]

On page 2 I have posted a video from this guy, got a lot of excuses why it is NOT possible to do. So, how come this guy is making one every week and our geeks just show excuses? Why?

I want somebody to explain to me , but NOT in some "techno geeko mambo jumbo" but with something a average mortal can understand.




I cannot see why these babes cannot be naked and some nasty bits were taking place.

[Floor13]

I cannot see why these babes cannot be naked and some nasty bits were taking place.

I cannot access that, says members only.

I am an average mortal, and don't understand all the technolgy, but I have invested time after a recent knee operation where I couldn't walk or get tied down and fucked.

BUT it is my understanding that the AI models (not "model women") were not trained on naked people, and specific words were not used. They were just shown thousands of videos and pictures of clothed people and told "White woman wearing a suit sitting on a chair in an office" etc.

When the porn aspect comes in, people have perverted those models (I love perverting models...) and inserted their own naked stuff and words. As well as addons that feature specifics (reverse cowgirl, never understood that one) that are seperate from the trained-model. (THink an after-market exhaust on your car that is really loud but doesn't really affect performance.)


I've been playing with the Wan2.1 model from China... ZERO porn in that initially, given the country of origin. But it has been added to and corrupted to do some good stuff (not that I can do it.)

Now, Wan2.2 has just come along, and everyone has jumped on it... Only to discover NO NUDES... for the reasons already stated. So they have to wait until disgusting people like me add their perversions... (Again, I don't know how they actually do it).

ALSO, given the training material, the default women are Chinese. Unless you specify no asian etc. Try to request a black woman, and you get Chinese lady I am over simplifiying it a bit. But if you leave stuff running to try to make longer films, your actress will be Chinese by the end of it, as the "AI" goes off and does it's own thing.

The commercial AI tools are all non-nude and non-celebrity (THey don't want Taylor Swift suing them). You'll only get results with open source... ANd it is a big time investment and computer investment.

I left some stuff running for 18 hours to 'render' (Don't know the correct name) overnight. 97% crap. Hate to think about the electricty bill. That is with a 4090 and 32GB ram, runs Cyberpunk like a dream. Really not viable for video at home unless you want to spend a fortune. There are sites where you can get the scripts to run on rented hardware/cloud stuff, so it all sets up, you run it fast, and pay by the hour. Apparently very reasonable, but it's not for me.

[Floor13]

new (movie that wasn't released...?)

Nice work, how did you manage to specify the environment?

Any idea where the computing power comes from for this site? No adds or anything, wondering if he;s just stealing my personal data or soul?

[Floor13]

Good Lord... I looked into some of this. It's like a combination of Greek and Klingon.

I recommend you start with an online AI generator, they are easy to use and hides you from all the technical stuff going on "under the hood".

Here is one that is free and allows nudity:

Free NSFW AI Generator

Super easy to use:
Just type in the prompt (a description what you want to see), chose an art style and click "Generate"!

I did a quick test with this prompt:

A naked woman chained to a wall, arms up, legs spread in a medieval dungeon

Just for fun, I chose three very different art styles:
- 1920s photo
- Oil Painting - Old
- Vintage Comic

This is what came out... try to match each picture with the art style!


3.jpg

2.jpg

1.jpg

Thank you so much for this!
I've been going mad with ComfyUI, and this is sooooo much better.
Any idea which models it is using (Would love to plug them into Comfy and keep the seed consistent).

[Kelderek]

Thank you so much for this!
I've been going mad with ComfyUI, and this is sooooo much better.
Any idea which models it is using (Would love to plug them into Comfy and keep the seed consistent).

I believe the AI model is Stable Diffusion SDXL.

[bakerboy]

I cannot see why these babes cannot be naked and some nasty bits were taking place.

I cannot access that, says members only.

I am an average mortal, and don't understand all the technolgy, but I have invested time after a recent knee operation where I couldn't walk or get tied down and fucked.

BUT it is my understanding that the AI models (not "model women") were not trained on naked people, and specific words were not used. They were just shown thousands of videos and pictures of clothed people and told "White woman wearing a suit sitting on a chair in an office" etc.

When the porn aspect comes in, people have perverted those models (I love perverting models...) and inserted their own naked stuff and words. As well as addons that feature specifics (reverse cowgirl, never understood that one) that are seperate from the trained-model. (THink an after-market exhaust on your car that is really loud but doesn't really affect performance.)


I've been playing with the Wan2.1 model from China... ZERO porn in that initially, given the country of origin. But it has been added to and corrupted to do some good stuff (not that I can do it.)

Now, Wan2.2 has just come along, and everyone has jumped on it... Only to discover NO NUDES... for the reasons already stated. So they have to wait until disgusting people like me add their perversions... (Again, I don't know how they actually do it).

ALSO, given the training material, the default women are Chinese. Unless you specify no asian etc. Try to request a black woman, and you get Chinese lady I am over simplifiying it a bit. But if you leave stuff running to try to make longer films, your actress will be Chinese by the end of it, as the "AI" goes off and does it's own thing.

The commercial AI tools are all non-nude and non-celebrity (THey don't want Taylor Swift suing them). You'll only get results with open source... ANd it is a big time investment and computer investment.

I left some stuff running for 18 hours to 'render' (Don't know the correct name) overnight. 97% crap. Hate to think about the electricty bill. That is with a 4090 and 32GB ram, runs Cyberpunk like a dream. Really not viable for video at home unless you want to spend a fortune. There are sites where you can get the scripts to run on rented hardware/cloud stuff, so it all sets up, you run it fast, and pay by the hour. Apparently very reasonable, but it's not for me.

as I have said do not get any of it....

[bakerboy]

I cannot see why these babes cannot be naked and some nasty bits were taking place.

I cannot access that, says members only.

I am an average mortal, and don't understand all the technolgy, but I have invested time after a recent knee operation where I couldn't walk or get tied down and fucked.

BUT it is my understanding that the AI models (not "model women") were not trained on naked people, and specific words were not used. They were just shown thousands of videos and pictures of clothed people and told "White woman wearing a suit sitting on a chair in an office" etc.

When the porn aspect comes in, people have perverted those models (I love perverting models...) and inserted their own naked stuff and words. As well as addons that feature specifics (reverse cowgirl, never understood that one) that are seperate from the trained-model. (THink an after-market exhaust on your car that is really loud but doesn't really affect performance.)


I've been playing with the Wan2.1 model from China... ZERO porn in that initially, given the country of origin. But it has been added to and corrupted to do some good stuff (not that I can do it.)

Now, Wan2.2 has just come along, and everyone has jumped on it... Only to discover NO NUDES... for the reasons already stated. So they have to wait until disgusting people like me add their perversions... (Again, I don't know how they actually do it).

ALSO, given the training material, the default women are Chinese. Unless you specify no asian etc. Try to request a black woman, and you get Chinese lady I am over simplifiying it a bit. But if you leave stuff running to try to make longer films, your actress will be Chinese by the end of it, as the "AI" goes off and does it's own thing.

The commercial AI tools are all non-nude and non-celebrity (THey don't want Taylor Swift suing them). You'll only get results with open source... ANd it is a big time investment and computer investment.

I left some stuff running for 18 hours to 'render' (Don't know the correct name) overnight. 97% crap. Hate to think about the electricty bill. That is with a 4090 and 32GB ram, runs Cyberpunk like a dream. Really not viable for video at home unless you want to spend a fortune. There are sites where you can get the scripts to run on rented hardware/cloud stuff, so it all sets up, you run it fast, and pay by the hour. Apparently very reasonable, but it's not for me.

Do not get any of it....

[EugeneDungeon]

Some of my experiments with AI