Why do we enjoy this type of footage and what about it makes it so pleasurable? Seroius question.

[SophDogg805]

My secret in life is that I love seeing women whipped to an extreme, and I've never been able to see something brutal enough to scratch the itch until I discovered elitepain and the other studios a few years ago.

Was there ever a thread that explained the psychology of why we enjoy this type of extreme content? I've always fantasized about the scenario, even before I knew anything like it existed and others enjoyed it like me.

To be completely honest, I'm handsome and never really had issues with women. I've been with many and am not lacking in that area. I'm not bragging, I'm just making it clear that it doesn't stem from some hatred of women or anything.

With that said, I enjoy seeing women suffer in the porn I watch. I love this content and nothing quite turns me on as seeing beautiful women suffering.

I was watching Lucy in one of her scenes today, and saw her get her clit pierced and have a breakdown while screaming / crying. She was covered in whip marks that opened up her beautiful body and she was crying/sobbing on the floor. I was rubbing one out to it and wondered most people would enjoy this as well or just be scared.

Either way, I'm happy to support this content so long as the bitcoin option is open. The producers may not know it, but they're producing gold for a small minority of us out there.

It's the one fantasy I'll never be able to experience first hand, but I can at least watch it and thats better than nothing. So thank you.

[MasterKav]

A good question. You are not alone, I too consider this sort of forum and subject erotic and highly enjoyable but I know what is real and what is fantasy. I too am a big whipping fan and not ashamed that this sort of material get me hard and some of it makes good edging material. If anything it does make me question how women are regarded in society. I suppose it is a contradiction but I am ok with that, as long as it is pure fantasy. I have a few manips (fakes) that you might like.

http://ralphus.net/thegimpforum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=136

[Navyrotor]

The answer is…

I have NO idea. Perhaps it’s built into us by nature - a male instinct to have power and control… to dominate the weaker sex. And taken to its extreme, that involves putting them in peril, and hurting them in order to witness their helplessness, thereby reinforcing our dominance.

That’s psycho-babble, of course, though probably rooted in truth. All I know is the closest I can be to pure ecstasy is when witnessing a beautiful woman suffer - whether it be whipping or some other form of torture. The lead in is important… I want to feel her visceral fear of what’s coming, witness her tears, see that moment when she realizes that hope is lost and the worst is inevitable. She panics, shakes, sobs, begs, pleads for anything to reverse her fate. That releases something in the brain that is like an extended mental orgasm of sorts. And when the torture begins, seeing the physical suffering is doubly sweet, as she realizes that her fears were warranted, and then some. It’s far worse than she could have imagined.

Heaven for me… hell for her. Perhaps that’s another indication of the balance that exists everywhere in nature. Her total suffering equates to my total pleasure. And perhaps that balance will come back to haunt me someday. That’s balance in its “yin and yang” philosophy, of course.

Whatever the case, bring it on. Grace, here, looks up at me with desperate eyes, disbelieving that I could hurt her… yet knowing that I will.

[Axn]

My secret in life is that I love seeing women whipped to an extreme, and I've never been able to see something brutal enough to scratch the itch until I discovered elitepain and the other studios a few years ago.

Was there ever a thread that explained the psychology of why we enjoy this type of extreme content? I've always fantasized about the scenario, even before I knew anything like it existed and others enjoyed it like me.

To be completely honest, I'm handsome and never really had issues with women. I've been with many and am not lacking in that area. I'm not bragging, I'm just making it clear that it doesn't stem from some hatred of women or anything.

With that said, I enjoy seeing women suffer in the porn I watch. I love this content and nothing quite turns me on as seeing beautiful women suffering.

I was watching Lucy in one of her scenes today, and saw her get her clit pierced and have a breakdown while screaming / crying. She was covered in whip marks that opened up her beautiful body and she was crying/sobbing on the floor. I was rubbing one out to it and wondered most people would enjoy this as well or just be scared.

Either way, I'm happy to support this content so long as the bitcoin option is open. The producers may not know it, but they're producing gold for a small minority of us out there.

It's the one fantasy I'll never be able to experience first hand, but I can at least watch it and thats better than nothing. So thank you.

Love it too, I just don’t like when it starts to bruise much; i love belt spanking, with a lot of manhandling. Nothing like soft stuff. Screaming and sobbing is necessary.

Which scene are you referring to btw? I haven’t had much success in watching good screams n crying!!

[Navyrotor]

Whipping Films made some really nice films of cute chicks being whipped pretty harshly. The sobbing and crying is awesome. There was an entire thread dedicated to this studio in the last iteration of the forum.

Here’s one link: https://motherless.com/160A2C1

[Ed2]

I was fascinated with torture long before I was aware of girls in a sexual way. The transition to my enduring fantasy was swift and inevitable. Even now, though, I notice a slight difference in my choice of porn and that of others here -- with no judgment. I prefer knowing that it is lurid fantasy, not so much a borderline legal actual depiction of torture. I would rather have a new Poor Cecily or Ilsa, than a new ElitePain (excellent at what they do). What floats my boat the highest is artwork, especially the work of WillieMacJ. I don't want the real thing, but the carefully tailored rendition of a fantasy.

[Hofrax1]

The answer is…

I have NO idea. Perhaps it’s built into us by nature - a male instinct to have power and control… to dominate the weaker sex. And taken to its extreme, that involves putting them in peril, and hurting them in order to witness their helplessness, thereby reinforcing our dominance.

That’s psycho-babble, of course, though probably rooted in truth. All I know is the closest I can be to pure ecstasy is when witnessing a beautiful woman suffer - whether it be whipping or some other form of torture. The lead in is important… I want to feel her visceral fear of what’s coming, witness her tears, see that moment when she realizes that hope is lost and the worst is inevitable. She panics, shakes, sobs, begs, pleads for anything to reverse her fate. That releases something in the brain that is like an extended mental orgasm of sorts. And when the torture begins, seeing the physical suffering is doubly sweet, as she realizes that her fears were warranted, and then some. It’s far worse than she could have imagined.

Heaven for me… hell for her. Perhaps that’s another indication of the balance that exists everywhere in nature. Her total suffering equates to my total pleasure. And perhaps that balance will come back to haunt me someday. That’s balance in its “yin and yang” philosophy, of course.

I think you are on the right track. I think that men are naturally dominant and women naturally submissive, and our particular fetish is just at the extreme end of the bell curve. And I might add, I believe women’s natural tendency towards masochism is rooted in childbirth. It’s impossible for a man to imagine wanting to go through such a painful process, and yet women are biologically programmed to want that. And given that women are having fewer children than ever in the modern age, more and more of them need to get their masochistic fix elsewhere.

[Navyrotor]

Hofrax1 ~ that’s a super interesting take on it. I hadn’t thought of childbirth angle (no man could ever deal with that level of pain)… and the decline in numbers could indeed be related.

On a related note, while I wholeheartedly support women doing anything they desire, and many can handle the physical demands of traditionally-male roles, there is a cultural price for a declining birth rate, and for a society that tells us we should ignore biological differences between men and women (witness the madness of the trans push into women’s sports - disgusting). Nature is nature, and no “enlightened” culture can change reality - or should want to. We should celebrate male-female differences for the inherent practical reasons nature intended them, as well as for the joy they bring, while supporting those choose any independent path. We can do both.

[wulf]

I was fascinated with torture long before I was aware of girls in a sexual way. The transition to my enduring fantasy was swift and inevitable. Even now, though, I notice a slight difference in my choice of porn and that of others here -- with no judgment. I prefer knowing that it is lurid fantasy, not so much a borderline legal actual depiction of torture. I would rather have a new Poor Cecily or Ilsa, than a new ElitePain (excellent at what they do). What floats my boat the highest is artwork, especially the work of WillieMacJ. I don't want the real thing, but the carefully tailored rendition of a fantasy.

Like Navyrotor I have zero clues as to why we like what we like. Like any other complex issue, I suspect it has many factors that must come together in a certain way, at a certain time in our development for any type of 'kink' to come about. I used to think there weren't many others like me, despite the fact that books and magazines were being printed for more people than just me. I've since learned that's certainly not the case, and further, I do think there are a lot more of us (with a sadistic inclination) out there than we realize even today.

I am in the same category as my friend Ed, in that severe torture is what works best for me and is why I tend to prefer artwork and certain well done (and fake of course) videos and photos. Run of the mill BDSM and consensual games just don't turn me on anymore. Perhaps after close to 50 years of this stuff, I have become rather jaded.

[Neto Chaco]

Well you certainly raised an interesting question. And being a psychologist , a lot of hypotheses run through my head. Interesting how it all started with me watching the Tarzan movies and Chapters all in B&W in the old days. Being a strict Catholic there was always guilt lurking in the background. I appreciated Navyrotors, "I have no idea." And this from a gentleman that is above average IQ. My impression from his stories. I'm still Puzzled by the appeal at times. I know that I treat women with respect and do light BDSM activities only with their permission. Covers the consensual bit. EG One of my greatest activities is tying a women spread eagle with panties of course, starting at the toes and have a go at it. Some the best lovemaking has just been wonderful. And I've always been surprised at how women light spanking shall we say. Yum! on the way getting getting them wet on the way to tactile-kinesthetic activities.

Thanks for bringing the subject up. I've read the responses here with much interest.