A topic from the Producer Corner: BDSM Porn Studios that accept amateurs

[terans]

Hello all and Merry Chtistmas,

I post a topic in the Producer Corner before 1-2 days, but I think the question might be more relevant to be here:

Are there a bdsm porn studios based in Europe that accept male amateurs, without any previous acting experience ? I am male, 29 years old, switch, but mainly top. Can also be only a spectator, helping on the set. Is there a place, where I can look or whom to contact?

Best of luck,
Terans

[Floor13]

Hi,
None of this is intended as an insult or rudeness. I am typing on my phone and falling asleep so I'll be brief.

I would argue that NO, you will not get a chance/interview etc.

I used to be in the business a long time ago, but it was women only, so on many ways they had to be extra careful hiring riggers. It was only ever recommendations from the women in the scenes, or 'friends' from 'parties'.

It is my understanding that it is no different now in the male-dominated businesses.

Any work I see that isn't from the big names is usually shit. Whether they are using string or cheap rope, or the model can easily escape or is in no way stress position (therefore will not enhance her orgasm). Or they just have zero charisma and no connection with the model.

The only way you would get any gigs would be to start your own photography business (or amateur) to show what you can do. That would probably need to be paying escorts that do BDSM. It is unlikely you'll get a model without a portfolio to begin, hence needing escorts or a partner.
(Look at it from her point of view, she is supposed to go to your house, let you restrain her, flog her, and cum in her throat, and you don't have a website showing well filmed scenes of you doing that to 50 other happy women.)

If all of that is too much, then seriously, just film your own with escorts. If you are any good, you will then have a portfolio and they might knock on your door. But I doubt it, they will have too many experienced people already at hand.

Also, many serious BDSM people/teams DO NOT like to have 1 person rigging and another person on screen doing the action. Doing the restraining and talking it through with them builds the rapport and helps the scene. Some guy coming in and just flogging her after someone else has spent 30 minutes balancing the ropes so she's hanging evenly by her wrists is not going to have a good connection with her.

That connection you get as you tighten the last strap, and she ALWAYS looks you in the eye with the "Oh shit!" look, is absolutely priceless.

Of course, if you have a massive cock, have confidence, and can always get it up with an audience, and have no issue injecting your cock to keep it hard if needed... Then they might hire you.


If you're talking about a background extra in a filmed party-style thing like Upper Floor, then it is about how much money you have and if you go to the same clubs as the people that run the studio.

I used to go to lots of parties like that, and it was always friends of friends of friends etc etc.


Seriously, there are 2 ways you can try.

1) Film it yourself. This is probably the best way.
2) Date exclusively in the BDSM scene and get to know the people in the BDSM scene in your area. If you are not making friends/contacts there, then you never will. It is only through your force of personality that it will happen for a guy.

Failing that, see my comment about big cock... But even that is no guarantee. They will get sent pictures of big cocks all day. I know I bloody did...

[terans]

Hi,
None of this is intended as an insult or rudeness. I am typing on my phone and falling asleep so I'll be brief.

I would argue that NO, you will not get a chance/interview etc.

I used to be in the business a long time ago, but it was women only, so on many ways they had to be extra careful hiring riggers. It was only ever recommendations from the women in the scenes, or 'friends' from 'parties'.

It is my understanding that it is no different now in the male-dominated businesses.

Any work I see that isn't from the big names is usually shit. Whether they are using string or cheap rope, or the model can easily escape or is in no way stress position (therefore will not enhance her orgasm). Or they just have zero charisma and no connection with the model.

The only way you would get any gigs would be to start your own photography business (or amateur) to show what you can do. That would probably need to be paying escorts that do BDSM. It is unlikely you'll get a model without a portfolio to begin, hence needing escorts or a partner.
(Look at it from her point of view, she is supposed to go to your house, let you restrain her, flog her, and cum in her throat, and you don't have a website showing well filmed scenes of you doing that to 50 other happy women.)

If all of that is too much, then seriously, just film your own with escorts. If you are any good, you will then have a portfolio and they might knock on your door. But I doubt it, they will have too many experienced people already at hand.

Also, many serious BDSM people/teams DO NOT like to have 1 person rigging and another person on screen doing the action. Doing the restraining and talking it through with them builds the rapport and helps the scene. Some guy coming in and just flogging her after someone else has spent 30 minutes balancing the ropes so she's hanging evenly by her wrists is not going to have a good connection with her.

That connection you get as you tighten the last strap, and she ALWAYS looks you in the eye with the "Oh shit!" look, is absolutely priceless.

Of course, if you have a massive cock, have confidence, and can always get it up with an audience, and have no issue injecting your cock to keep it hard if needed... Then they might hire you.


If you're talking about a background extra in a filmed party-style thing like Upper Floor, then it is about how much money you have and if you go to the same clubs as the people that run the studio.

I used to go to lots of parties like that, and it was always friends of friends of friends etc etc.


Seriously, there are 2 ways you can try.

1) Film it yourself. This is probably the best way.
2) Date exclusively in the BDSM scene and get to know the people in the BDSM scene in your area. If you are not making friends/contacts there, then you never will. It is only through your force of personality that it will happen for a guy.

Failing that, see my comment about big cock... But even that is no guarantee. They will get sent pictures of big cocks all day. I know I bloody did...

Thank you for your advices. Will definitely take a note.
One more thing - could you give some insights about which clubs or cities should I take a look ? From where should I start ?

[hornythumb]

Floor 13 's remark,

"Also, many serious BDSM people/teams DO NOT like to have 1 person rigging and another person on screen doing the action. Doing the restraining and talking it through with them builds the rapport and helps the scene."

caught my attention. It seems that in MP/EP the rigger is someone other than the dom. Often a woman would be seen getting a Lomp sub rigged up before he came on scene. Also, in the COP series the rigger does not seem to be the dom.

Whatever, as nice as it would be, a major studio could not have plain citizens around as viewers, at any price. What if someone arranged a cruise where multiple producers filmed while tourist passengers watches on. A fantasy, anyways.

[terans]

Floor 13 's remark,

"Also, many serious BDSM people/teams DO NOT like to have 1 person rigging and another person on screen doing the action. Doing the restraining and talking it through with them builds the rapport and helps the scene."

caught my attention. It seems that in MP/EP the rigger is someone other than the dom. Often a woman would be seen getting a Lomp sub rigged up before he came on scene. Also, in the COP series the rigger does not seem to be the dom.

Whatever, as nice as it would be, a major studio could not have plain citizens around as viewers, at any price. What if someone arranged a cruise where multiple producers filmed while tourist passengers watches on. A fantasy, anyways.

As a fan of MP and EP I have seen that the rigger is someone else too. Not the dom, especially in the early EP case series.

In some of EP and MP movies like The Sado-Mazo show or The Experiment there is an audience involved. Hopefully they will resume this practice at some point.

[Floor13]

Thank you for your advices. Will definitely take a note.
One more thing - could you give some insights about which clubs or cities should I take a look ? From where should I start ?

Hi, no idea really, I've been out of the scene for a few years. I used to follow The Torture Garden around the UK (They organize events in different cities) For a time I went to every event either as a sub of an older woman/couple, or with a couple of girls I played with, or if I wanted to show off a new 'toy' I had 'acquired'. Later I used to go a lot as I introduced my partner to the scene.


Back when I was filming, I've been taken to a couple of places in Berlin (They had a serious BDSM club scene, no idea if it is still around). KitKatclub in Berlin is still going I believe, I've been there a few times in my teens and aged 20/21 when I was the guest of a few people with money.

It was obviously MUCH easier for me to make 'friends' as an 18 year old petite girl looking to make films and 'learn'. Luckily I was never alone, or I would have been eaten alive. For a single guy, you are going to have a hard time.

I have no real advice, I got a VERY lucky break by finding an advertisment in a local paper for 'escorts', and discovered that they were also a lesbian-porn company, and then a month later I was in lesbian BDSM films. If I'd never found that newspaper on a train, my life would be completely different probably.


I genuinely belive that you have about zero chance of what you describe happening as you're a man.
I think the only serious option would be to make your own films. Good lighting can make ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!! It can make a bad amateur film look good. Do not just film with a staionary camera with a bright LED light pointing at the lady (e.g. www.amateure-xtreme.com They just started their own site a few years ago. Some of the women are fucking hideous, they guys themselves have tiny cocks and are morbidly obese, their lighting is terrible, BUT they have a couple of good films. If they just covered up that garage door, and improved the lighting, add a bloody backlight, they would look so much better. I picked them as an example, because I like their films with the large breasted BBW lady, and a small woman who gets fisted a lot.)

[Floor13]

Floor 13 's remark,

"Also, many serious BDSM people/teams DO NOT like to have 1 person rigging and another person on screen doing the action. Doing the restraining and talking it through with them builds the rapport and helps the scene."

caught my attention. It seems that in MP/EP the rigger is someone other than the dom. Often a woman would be seen getting a Lomp sub rigged up before he came on scene. Also, in the COP series the rigger does not seem to be the dom.

Whatever, as nice as it would be, a major studio could not have plain citizens around as viewers, at any price. What if someone arranged a cruise where multiple producers filmed while tourist passengers watches on. A fantasy, anyways.

I'm thinking more about a BDSM film, where there is some relationship with the top and bottom. I NEED that connection, whichever role I am playing. I don't think of ElitePain as BDSM Straight-up torture

With something like Insex, PD used to do it all himself. Then he got too big and had other people do it, and then he raped a woman's virgin butt with a pole. Allegedly he thought she was up for it and was experienced. If he'd have spoken to her before-hand then he would have known it was an anal-free shoot. Quite frankly I think his 'mistake' is bullshit, trying to fit a BIG dildo up a virgin unprepared butt, he would have known the moment he started pushing. If nothing else her giving the "Red" signal would have been a fucking clue. I think he's just a piece of shit who does what he wants, the opposite of Matt Williams.

(Also, a long time ago, me and my partner paid Adrianna Nicole for a hook up (Sorry, I meant Homemade-Pornographic-movie ), when she was 'touring' the UK. She had stopped filming there a long time before and didn't like him or his people, allegedly... FYI, wasn't worth the money, she seemed like a very nice person, but was very much in-character the moment we 'started' and just all felt fake with no connection. Again, nothing against the lady at all, nice person to us.)

That is always an avenue to explore, find out when the models are touring different countries (Used to be through their agencies, probably twitter these days, I don't twitter) and arrange to make a 'film' with them. Remember, they are actors, NOT escorts...

[hornythumb]

Floor 13 's remark,

"Also, many serious BDSM people/teams DO NOT like to have 1 person rigging and another person on screen doing the action. Doing the restraining and talking it through with them builds the rapport and helps the scene."

caught my attention. It seems that in MP/EP the rigger is someone other than the dom. Often a woman would be seen getting a Lomp sub rigged up before he came on scene. Also, in the COP series the rigger does not seem to be the dom.

Whatever, as nice as it would be, a major studio could not have plain citizens around as viewers, at any price. What if someone arranged a cruise where multiple producers filmed while tourist passengers watches on. A fantasy, anyways.

I'm thinking more about a BDSM film, where there is some relationship with the top and bottom. I NEED that connection, whichever role I am playing. I don't think of ElitePain as BDSM Straight-up torture

With something like Insex, PD used to do it all himself. Then he got too big and had other people do it, and then he raped a woman's virgin butt with a pole. Allegedly he thought she was up for it and was experienced. If he'd have spoken to her before-hand then he would have known it was an anal-free shoot. Quite frankly I think his 'mistake' is bullshit, trying to fit a BIG dildo up a virgin unprepared butt, he would have known the moment he started pushing. If nothing else her giving the "Red" signal would have been a fucking clue. I think he's just a piece of shit who does what he wants, the opposite of Matt Williams.

(Also, a long time ago, me and my partner paid Adrianna Nicole for a hook up (Sorry, I meant Homemade-Pornographic-movie ), when she was 'touring' the UK. She had stopped filming there a long time before and didn't like him or his people, allegedly... FYI, wasn't worth the money, she seemed like a very nice person, but was very much in-character the moment we 'started' and just all felt fake with no connection. Again, nothing against the lady at all, nice person to us.)

That is always an avenue to explore, find out when the models are touring different countries (Used to be through their agencies, probably twitter these days, I don't twitter) and arrange to make a 'film' with them. Remember, they are actors, NOT escorts...

Very thoughtful explanation. Thanks. Some of us are just more casual video viewers.