ElitePain - Treasure Hunt - Linda

[WhiteKnight]

This turns to be an interesting discussion. Yanni: I felt touched by your comment about those vanilla types, trying to push the EP-site into the mainstream direction. Less sadism, less cruelness, less pain, more reward. And I reflected my position. I am not the guy asking Tatjana to be punished or to be fired for her behavior. Her role is fine within these films. Also the rivalry between the mistresses is ok. It spices up the sessions.

What I cannot accept is, that for example Amirah is the protagonist in a 85 minutes film, entertaining us, and leaving the set without any reward. This was always the story, never contradicted, never questioned. The interesting point is, that Pedro and people like you Yanni, make me believe, that this could be the true story. The perfect humiliation of a looser who is taunted for being so stupid to take all the pain for nothing. Even more humiliating: The big price is distributed among the tormentors.

I am not a true sadist. I can enjoy these films. But somehow, I feel guilty. Guilty for feeling pleasure in watching these films. Even though I accept this dark side of my soul, I am looking for an excuse. And this excuse is the reward of the player. But if I believe that there is indeed no reward, I feel even more guilty. That is my motivation to argue for the good of the players. As a white knight. There seem to be enough dark knights out there.

[Yanni]

This turns to be an interesting discussion. Yanni: I felt touched by your comment about those vanilla types, trying to push the EP-site into the mainstream direction. Less sadism, less cruelness, less pain, more reward. And I reflected my position. I am not the guy asking Tatjana to be punished or to be fired for her behavior. Her role is fine within these films. Also the rivalry between the mistresses is ok. It spices up the sessions.

What I cannot accept is, that for example Amirah is the protagonist in a 85 minutes film, entertaining us, and leaving the set without any reward. This was always the story, never contradicted, never questioned. The interesting point is, that Pedro and people like you Yanni, make me believe, that this could be the true story. The perfect humiliation of a looser who is taunted for being so stupid to take all the pain for nothing. Even more humiliating: The big price is distributed among the tormentors.

I am not a true sadist. I can enjoy these films. But somehow, I feel guilty. Guilty for feeling pleasure in watching these films. Even though I accept this dark side of my soul, I am looking for an excuse. And this excuse is the reward of the player. But if I believe that there is indeed no reward, I feel even more guilty. That is my motivation to argue for the good of the players. As a white knight. There seem to be enough dark knights out there.

We all have that guilt. I don't joy at the fact she goes home with nothing but unfortunately that model is the only way we can get these hot girls to push themselves in these movies. It's a necessary evil.

Would she push herself as hard if she was compensated up front? If not, would you still want to change the model even if it makes the movies less harsh to satisfy your feelings?

I say about contracts because it's how I overcome my own guilt. They know what they're getting in to. They come back. Justifications as to satisfy the reality that to get the caliber of movies we are, there's been no other choice/solution that has been mentioned which can logically solve that issue.

[Pedro]

We all have that guilt

And I have that guilt too... Much more than you'd think. That's why I chose retiring... (even if you still see me here - that will change soon, hopefully sooner than later)

OFFTOPIC -

At one fuel station's restroom I found the following message... and it really made my day... I thought I'd share it with you....OFFTOPIC END

Yeah... hopes and dreams....

Sooner than expected... I return with Linda's ordeal... I don't keep her hanging too long.. pun intended...

[Pedro]

So let's see a massive behind the scenes footage, which will definitely not be part of the final cut.
After the first round (back whipping suspended) at the very moment the directorial CUT is heard, the whole cast floods the set to get Linda down from the suspension....

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, even the cold hearted Tatjana helps to untie Linda....(btw look how gorgeous she is!!!)
I tell you... suspension is a bitch...I'd bet that being tied up by the wrists is more painful than the strokes themselves....

as you will see later, the dominas did not try to ease Linda's pain with speeding up the strokes, but as you see, when the scene ended, the whole cast did everything to immediately stop her suffering...

(when you feel really bad for the players, please don't forget that we treat them as princesses during the breaks.... I heard from not other than Lyen, that she liked shooting with us because we treated her with more respect than most producers at a vanilla porn shooting)

A stool is immediately put under Linda when the scene is cut, her running nose is treated by the gorgeos and extremely lovely make-up artist girl... and her hand is untied as soon as possible....

[Steeltoiz]

@Pedro I always thought the reason the girls would come back win or lose was because of how well you treated them. No matter what the dominas do to them, this is far more dignified than vanilla porn.

[Squatchballs]

Heh, so the crusaders have all come to simp. How predictable.

Here's a dose of reality: the models are all paid. win or lose. Money heals many wounds. Tatyana acts up when she's told to. It adds to the drama. Her emotional damage though, is real. She's hiding behind that Domina mask and one day she'll slip up and seriously hurt somebody during a session. She doesn't know it yet but it is coming.

Also, your posts are quite humorous and bravado is very hilarious.

The onscreen and offscreen drama in the vids are scripted up to a point so it gets more sales and viewers like any good soap opera. There are some real emotions however that add to the realism. Amanda leaving? Possible but I leave that to your imaginations and deductive reasoning.

Winners get the bonus, losers still have their fee, as do their agents (the ones that have agents anyway). This is a business first and foremost. Never forget that.

And....models talk. Word gets out. You just have to know where to listen.

Enjoy the vids gentlemen. I'm late for a play party.

[Pedro]

Here comes the very first stroke of the game.

The case with the AOH hanging position is that the victim always keeps spinning, so the dominas had to adjust her back time to time, as this is a back whipping round. I think this position would suit better for a suspended full body whipping.... then the victim could left spinning and the domina would hit the side of the victim which is actually showing at that moment....

[Bullwhiplover]

Here comes the very first stroke of the game.

The case with the AOH hanging position is that the victim always keeps spinning, so the dominas had to adjust her back time to time, as this is a back whipping round. I think this position would suit better for a suspended full body whipping.... then the victim could left spinning and the domina would hit the side of the victim which is actually showing at that moment....

Completely agree Pedro full body whipping and then with a bullwhip that is so long that it wraps around the body and then with the retraction gives an extra spin to the body.
unfortunately it is only 10 strokes

[Jan]

Suspension does wonders to the contours of a woman. For me it is highly erotic. I simply love stretched AOH, but suspension is even better, the ultimate way a woman can get stretched. And that it is very strenuous for her even adds to my joy! I hope it will be drawn again soon!

[Steeltoiz]

Did anyone notice how Tatjana dismissed Amanda's effort to help steady Linda's position? Not a thank you but a shrug and an eye roll. Even in the first clip, as soon as Linda gets the stool for relief, Amanda
bends over with laughter hopeful to get acknowledgement from Tatjana but Tatjana never looks at her.