ElitePain - Treasure Hunt - Linda

[Bullwhiplover]

I wonder how many strokes Amanda get in the end and if Tatjane made her turn as it is a full body round

[Pedro]

The selfie at the end was over the top.

That selfie was a direct response to the selfie sent by Ariel to Tatjana which - as I know - was totally without the agreement of Amanda. (They made the selfie just for themselves)

Tatjana felt that Amanda openly betrayes her and they make fool of her together.

So actually Ariel caused a.lot of trouble for Amanda again....

[gr3atKhan]

If amanda really wants to quit, maybe the producers can persuade amanda to return by letting her punish tatjana with a needle to the clit. But i know this is never going to happen as tatjana always says no

[hoyasaxa13]

If this is really Amanda’s last one, I’ll be sad. I always like Amanda and have always liked her as a Dom and Sub. I hope Amanda reconsiders. She is actually my favorite.

I do fill at least seeing the Easter egg that Tatjana went to far on the too weak start over. Once or twice ok but anything after is not and is getting away again. How many chances do you get? Pedro will come to her defense which as a producer I think he should and we don’t always have to full picture but I do feel that she gets away with a lot and it does need to be dealt with. She always gets away with it and no punishment is served. Of course we don’t know all the agreements beforehand. If it was Ariel and Amanda both would have been punished and have been punished many times. I also believe even though they would say no that’s not true that every time the switch card is pulled and there are two Doms/gamemadters Tatjana always gets spared which I think is already known. I believe she is spared because it’s already agreed she won’t have to do it. But it is time to let Tatjana know and for her to have to be punished for it or what’s the point. That is of course if she crosses the line. And let’s look at the Easter egg. Amanda knew that the heat between the two was getting too bad. She went and said I’m leaving which should have alerted staff that it was too bad. Nothing happened and Tatjana got away with it again. A game master should be able to control and at least in the Easter egg it shows that’s the complete opposite.

I am looking forward to this release and the future releases. Can’t wait to see some more teasers and appreciate Pedro and Pablo. I also want it to be known I love how Tatjana can break the player mentally and physically. She definitely whips the hardest and that we all love. I’m am eagerly sitting back and can’t wait to see Linda get whipped like never before. Been a diehard fan and still am.

[Steeltoiz]

@Pedro Did you drive Tatjana home after the TH like after the interview? Did she feel like she got her anger out? What did she have to say?

[Yanni]

I warned you I would defend Tatjana without question.

Tatjana is a creation of instinct. Her cruelty has virtually no limit, she is one of the two most popular dominas at EP right now, I think she's standing at the top right as high as Amanda.... In another thread they received about identical number of votes as favorite dom.

Tatjana's cruelty is limitless we (producers) should make the limits. If you think she crossed the line, that is our responsibilty, not her.

If we can put things into context of who these movies are for and what they're about, Tatjana is far and away the better over Amanda. Amanda's mind trick with Amirah was epic, but in the long run, the goal is more harsh, more tears and more pain; in that, Tatjana has no rival.

I've said it before, Pedro, think we really need to get away from the whole "Dom" and "Sub" labeling. It's confusing many people on here who understand D-S relationships to think that's what this is and that's what they are. They execute the games. Call them implementers or game masters. They're not dom's and these aren't some sex and submission type of movies so people need to quit comparing them. These girls come to play a game. It's not love bondage.

Did Tatjana cross the line? Well, did she do something illegal? If not, please allow her to continue making your movies the best by far in the entire niche market. She knows what true sadists want and for that she is the queen. And to those who say punish her, I, in fact, believe she deserves a raise. To those who say EP is dwindling and losing models because of their "questionable whatever", why don't you mind your business and let them mind theirs because they're producing content you couldn't dream of competing against with your vanilla attitudes.

Pedro, the "suggestions" I've read all point to turning EP into a bland mainstream BDSM studio. Softer, kinder, gentler, and more empathetic. I can't explain to you how it infuriates me to read that when those people have a multitude of options for those sites yet want to wreck the last real bastion of hardcore whipping movies with attractive women on the net. You're the expert and you make amazing movies. Please don't cater to a vocal minority on here. Your real fans love what you're doing.

[Steeltoiz]

I wonder how many strokes Amanda get in the end and if Tatjane made her turn as it is a full body round

If Tatjana waited until the count got down to 5,4,3 to confuse Amanda, it will be a round for the ages. Amanda's back and butt look well worked in the Easter egg. Her front not so much unless Tatjana went low .

[Bullwhiplover]

The selfie at the end was over the top.

That selfie was a direct response to the selfie sent by Ariel to Tatjana which - as I know - was totally without the agreement of Amanda. (They made the selfie just for themselves)

Tatjana felt that Amanda openly betrayes her and they make fool of her together.

So actually Ariel caused a.lot of trouble for Amanda again....

If Ariel and Amanda's Selfie was really the reason for Tatjana's anger, then it's to be hoped Ariel doesn't run into Tatjana as a switch card victim any time soon
there was a lot of anger and frustration radiating from it
and she also waited quite a long time before she took the whip herself, I think just to add to amanda's suffering
I wonder how she lures Amanda into miscounting
which I am sure she did or at least tried to do

[Amari]

Amanda has almost always been chosen for switch.(The players are so unfair )
Linda had changed her mind in a previous game and had selected Ariel.
Did Linda also confuse Ariel with Tatjana?
Did she just not want to choose 'the blonde' again?

[Squatchballs]

If we can put things into context of who these movies are for and what they're about, Tatjana is far and away the better over Amanda. Amanda's mind trick with Amirah was epic, but in the long run, the goal is more harsh, more tears and more pain; in that, Tatjana has no rival.

I've said it before, Pedro, think we really need to get away from the whole "Dom" and "Sub" labeling. It's confusing many people on here who understand D-S relationships to think that's what this is and that's what they are. They execute the games. Call them implementers or game masters. They're not dom's and these aren't some sex and submission type of movies so people need to quit comparing them. These girls come to play a game. It's not love bondage.

Did Tatjana cross the line? Well, did she do something illegal? If not, please allow her to continue making your movies the best by far in the entire niche market. She knows what true sadists want and for that she is the queen. And to those who say punish her, I, in fact, believe she deserves a raise. To those who say EP is dwindling and losing models because of their "questionable whatever", why don't you mind your business and let them mind theirs because they're producing content you couldn't dream of competing against with your vanilla attitudes.

Pedro, the "suggestions" I've read all point to turning EP into a bland mainstream BDSM studio. Softer, kinder, gentler, and more empathetic. I can't explain to you how it infuriates me to read that when those people have a multitude of options for those sites yet want to wreck the last real bastion of hardcore whipping movies with attractive women on the net. You're the expert and you make amazing movies. Please don't cater to a vocal minority on here. Your real fans love what you're doing.

Yanni, the labels aren't "confusing". We do games here as well from time to time BUT...the set rules are ALWAYS followed. No bending or breaking them from any participants. That's the big difference here.

Bending or breaking a set rule sets a bad precedent. Even worse if the rule breaking isn't addressed or punished. If it goes unchecked nobody will want to play the game.

So the question here is this: is one person worth the loss of revenue for the company? That's something the producers have to ask themselves.

Yanni, nobody's saying to lighten up on the BDSM. What we're saying is they need to differentiate between actual sadism and an out-of-control woman who's simply damaging their brand whenever she drives off yet another model. A true sadist can do what Tatjana does and have the person they play with beg to come back no matter what's been done to them. There's a mental game (ie, mindfucking) that needs to be played as well as a physical one.

Tatjana is no sadist. True sadism is best wielded like a scalpel, not a club. Tatjana has some issues that need to be worked out with a support group, not in front of a camera.

Amanda is the best Domina EP has and Ariel has the best mental game out of the three. Losing Amanda will certainly damage the EP brand.