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[doe.1971]

Oh yes, you've nailed it. Are you going to do the 'trestle' part too?

Yeah, but look rather a donkey. Despite reading the descriptive paragraph over and over again, I couldn't wrap my head around how the author meant the trestle to adjust vertically, to increase the pressure between the legs? Your English is better, do you understand what's involved there?

Also another licence I took was the angle of the frame. The book describe it as vertical, like a drying frame. The hights was a man head's hights and the vic was suspended by pulling the legs sideways. Marchioness was a petit figure and it might work but Ciri is a tall and slender gal so it wouldn't work as described. Therefore I had to angle it, to allow the body to sag in the bonds but not too tall to require the guy with the funnel to require a ladder.

[wulf]

Oh yes, you've nailed it. Are you going to do the 'trestle' part too?

Yeah, but look rather a donkey. Despite reading the descriptive paragraph over and over again, I couldn't wrap my head around how the author meant the trestle to adjust vertically, to increase the pressure between the legs? Your English is better, do you understand what's involved there?

Also another licence I took was the angle of the frame. The book describe it as vertical, like a drying frame. The hights was a man head's hights and the vic was suspended by pulling the legs sideways. Marchioness was a petit figure and it might work but Ciri is a tall and slender gal so it wouldn't work as described. Therefore I had to angle it, to allow the body to sag in the bonds but not too tall to require the guy with the funnel to require a ladder.

Actually I interpreted the frame set at an angle pretty much as you show in your image, and yes she was suspended by the spreading and pulling forward and out of her legs... again as you did. That was the only way it made sense to me.

I admit to being confused about the description of the trestle, and after multiple reads I think I figured it out. Picture a heavily built structure much like a common sawhorse, only larger and taller, with one end set lower than the other so the upper horizontal rail would slope down at an angle that was something less than the angle of the frame. The upper rail would be 3 inches wide or so and positioned under her at the middle of her back. Due to the different angles the low end of the rail would contact her butt and hips first, rather than along the entire back. The first few jars of water were poured in, then the trestle is jammed further under, forcing her hips up and a bit forward and tightening the ropes to stretch her. More water is induced, and the trestle is jammed forward again, pushing her hips further up and now pressing hard against her spine and forcing her torso up tightening the tension on her arms and shoulders as well as her hips and legs.

If I'm seeing it all correctly it would have been a terribly cruel combination of water torture and a rack stretching.

Anyway, that was my take on it.

[doe.1971]

I admit to being confused about the description of the trestle, and after multiple reads I think I figured it out. Picture a heavily built structure much like a common sawhorse, only larger and taller, with one end set lower than the other so the upper horizontal rail would slope down at an angle that was something less than the angle of the frame. The upper rail would be 3 inches wide or so and positioned under her at the middle of her back. Due to the different angles the low end of the rail would contact her butt and hips first, rather than along the entire back. The first few jars of water were poured in, then the trestle is jammed further under, forcing her hips up and a bit forward and tightening the ropes to stretch her. More water is induced, and the trestle is jammed forward again, pushing her hips further up and now pressing hard against her spine and forcing her torso up tightening the tension on her arms and shoulders as well as her hips and legs.

That's more or less the same way I understood it too ... frustrating is that the author who's meticulously descriptive about everything else is rather vague on this aspect. The only practical problem with that would work only on a narrow range of victims, of certain size. Too tall or too short and the trestle is out of range.

Enfin, we are not there yet so let's continue to the actual ingestion of water. The first 2..3 jugs, each at 2 pints full, go relatively easy, with nothing more than occasional breaks for gulping. More discomfort is produced by their frigid temperature cooling the body core than the water volume poured.

They joke that each jug added makes the subject's torso look like a month of pregnancy.

While drinking the fourth, Ciri is trying desperately to bite the reinforced funnel with little succes.

[wulf]

I admit to being confused about the description of the trestle, and after multiple reads I think I figured it out. Picture a heavily built structure much like a common sawhorse, only larger and taller, with one end set lower than the other so the upper horizontal rail would slope down at an angle that was something less than the angle of the frame. The upper rail would be 3 inches wide or so and positioned under her at the middle of her back. Due to the different angles the low end of the rail would contact her butt and hips first, rather than along the entire back. The first few jars of water were poured in, then the trestle is jammed further under, forcing her hips up and a bit forward and tightening the ropes to stretch her. More water is induced, and the trestle is jammed forward again, pushing her hips further up and now pressing hard against her spine and forcing her torso up tightening the tension on her arms and shoulders as well as her hips and legs.

That's more or less the same way I understood it too ... frustrating is that the author who's meticulously descriptive about everything else is rather vague on this aspect. The only practical problem with that would work only on a narrow range of victims, of certain size. Too tall or too short and the trestle is out of range.

Enfin, we are not there yet so let's continue to the actual ingestion of water. The first 2..3 jugs, each at 2 pints full, go relatively easy, with nothing more than occasional breaks for gulping. More discomfort is produced by their frigid temperature cooling the body core than the water volume poured.

They joke that each jug added makes the subject's torso look like a month of pregnancy.

While drinking the fourth, Ciri is trying desperately to bite the reinforced funnel with little succes.

Oh my...... these are some of your best work yet. Truly beautiful and very 'inspiring'.

And I see your point about the trestle. I do wonder if that was a creation of the author rather than an actual device used in real life. I've never seen anything specifically like that being described anywhere else.

[doe.1971]

And I see your point about the trestle. I do wonder if that was a creation of the author rather than an actual device used in real life. I've never seen anything specifically like that being described anywhere else.

Clearly figment of imagination, all the historical account indicate something similar to a beam over the body was bent. But hey, I like sick imaginations, they are inspiring.

[wulf]

And I see your point about the trestle. I do wonder if that was a creation of the author rather than an actual device used in real life. I've never seen anything specifically like that being described anywhere else.

Clearly figment of imagination, all the historical account indicate something similar to a beam over the body was bent. But hey, I like sick imaginations, they are inspiring.

Yes, me too. Having a sick & perverted imagination can be quite a lot of fun actually.

[doe.1971]

After the sixth jug was emptied into her reluctant belly Ciri is feeling like exploding. Sweaty and cold she looks hatefully at the Baron and ask him 'So you want to kill me? That's the plan?". "Not at all, my dear, just answer truthfully where do you come from and all this stops". "But I told you again and again, I travel jumping through universes" she went despodently, sagging in her bonds.

There are two more jugs full of water. Phillip Strenger nodded to his chief torturer to continue.

[frog]

Excellent water torture scenes. I think the idea of tilting the frame is the correct way to go even if the text does not describe it that way. It's hard to have someone swallow water in an upright position.

After all that swallowing and having a distended belly, she seems to be defiant still.

Do I detect the presence of signore LLL as part of the torture crew?

[doe.1971]

Do I detect the presence of signore LLL as part of the torture crew?

Can anyone have a good time without that ... that ... pest? Of course he's bombing all the torture sessions he can.

[wulf]

This is seriously one of the best water torture scenes I've yet to see. Congratulations JD, my erect-o-meter says you have a winner here.

And thank you.

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