But she remarked; "They charged 600 yen for shipping, why didn't you use Amazon?"

So I went to Amazon JP and found out that Amazon is cheaper, free shipping within Japan plus OVERSEAS SHIPPING AND ENGLISH VERSION HP. So lets try it. The link to the English version will be on your right, nearly the top corner.

J: Sorry for not telling you about Amazon JP, but I just found it out yesterday.

I've just tried to use it and found out 2 problems. One, although all the instructions can be in English, DVD titles are always in Japanese. Two, when I went to "shipping details" screen from "shopping cart", I was asked to entre my e-mail address or username+password, ALL IN JAPANESE.

So if you click the link above, you'll be seeing Hana to Hebi on the top, then click the small picture of a tied woman in kimono, in the next screen you will see "display in English" switch.

After that it will be much easier, you follow "add to shopping cart" then "proceed to checkout". Then everything will be in Japanese. But you just have to put your e-mail address in the top, then click the orangish switch. You'll be back to English world then.

Dan, you should get one.

One other question. I've really taken a large interest in the Nikkatsu thread both you and "J" have been talking about. Have you went and checked out the selection of Nikkatsu vids available over at Video Mayhem? Taking both you and "J's" word as expert on the subject, do either you give your nod to their selection? I already have a ton of J-Rape vids, and have actually stopped purchasing from VM in favor of sites like http://www.javnow.com/index.php which allow you to download the very same vids right to your PC. The thing about the Nikkatsu vids that intrigues me is that these don't appear to be the standard hand held video camera fair. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but something about doing this type of subject matter on actual film with a real budget an some sense of legitimacy, makes it even more enticing to me, and that's exactly what the Nikkatsu movies sound like with reviews like this one showing up when I run searches on them:

Disturbingly mesmeric in its stylised sexual brutality, there is undeniably something uncanny in this films ability to present torture in such a decorative and dare I say almost beautiful way. As with any film that deals with such fetishistic impulses the obsessions are presented in a cruelly poetic fashion; lovingly shot, beautifully lit and carefully composed. There is a simple elegance and craft to the on-screen degradation; this is 'Rope Magics' most potent point and at the same time its most shocking conclusion.

Christ, I'm drooling just from reading that review. So do you think the Nikkatsu movies over at Video Mayhem meet up with that description, or are they just some J-Rape handheld fair pretending to be Nikkatsu vids?

Thanks in advance

HOWIE.

Nikkatsu Videos are not, repeat not "hardcore" sex flicks. If your tastes run to the J-Rape or bondage videos from Cinemagic, Shark, or other similar fare, with forced BJs, facials, etc, then Nikkatsu is probably not for you.

Nikkatsu was an established movie company that fell on hard times and to save the studio they created the modern "roman porno" short for "romance porno" genre of films. The films feature quality production values, good budgets, good actresses and direction, etc.

You won't get non stop screwing, or even torture, but you will get a good flick. I would compare them with some of the pictures American International Pictures (AIP) used to make for the drive in crowd, with Hammer Film production values.

Given the above, I recommend you buy a couple ofVideo Mayhem's selection since the price is right. If you find you like them great, if not, you ain't out alot of jack.

I'll also take your advise on the Nikkatsu vids over at VM. That's fine that they're not as rough as the standard J-Rape flicks. It's the same thing that make B-Movies rape scenes so great even though they aren't anywhere even close to what you would see in a ZFX or J-Rape flick in term of content. There's just something about haveing that real budget, with real actors, and that scense of legitamacy that makes them incredible to watch. I've gone ahead and linked VM's Nikkatsu selection below:

Video Mayhem Nikkatsu Search Results

Are there any in the selection that you feel are the stand out titles? Once again, thanks for all the help.

HOWIE

Thanks again for all your help.

HOWIE.

Examples:

The script included a dream sequence (so I could incorporate elements that I otherwise could not fit in with the flow...plus an extra Asphyxia scene).

Olivia was hung upside down in my script, but by her ankles...not by her knees...and NUDE of course.

I can't tell for sure (since the pics are so small) but I included a scene where Olivia was left on her own for a long period of time (implied) where she would have to stand on her toes in order not to strangle to death. It looks like (?) they did the same except with high heels of course.

All too coincidental having three similar elements turn up in the very next video w/Olivia.

I don't care that they did it if they did, I just wish they would get off their elitist attitude (?) and do the original a little justice instead of trying to carve their niche in doing all their scenes with heels and hose... and get some totally nude material. I KNOW they could probably ten times their clientele (as is evident by all the mainstream porn sites that are dedicated to total nudity as opposed to the relatively small number that caters to the H&H crowd) if they would.

I understand you can do what you want...but this is STILL  a business venture for them right??

Another gripe I have is their disclaimer (and this goes for ZFX and other B&D producers as well) that state they produce the most realistic videos there are (in the genre). There have been so many scenes where the high heels start to come off in the struggle (hogtie lets say) only to have a cut, then be MIRACULOUSLY firmly in place again in the next scene. Well, part of reality is being real! HIGH HEELS are not what one wants to have on their feet if they are contemplating escape. Case in point; when there was a shooting a few years ago at the Capitol Building...and even when evacuating the White House 9/11. Security was yelling for the women to take their shoes off as they were running down the halls and in the street, in case they would need to speed up the evacuation. Want to portray real...then get real! Certain thing work, and certain things don't. There is a time and place when shoes do work...but as the old porn joke goes "If you like your woman to shower in 5" heels...you might be addicted to porn". The joke really illustrates how ridicules the heels are in certain circumstances.

Plus after the first few waves of models, they have really gone downhill. They want for us to believe these are high class women (and as MUCH as I LOVE Olivia...she still have a pierced pussy (w stud)), the way the quality ( for lack of better wording) has dropped, that just doesn't come across. After all, you can put a suit on a chimpanzee...but in the end, it's still just a monkey in a suit. Same here (with the newer one's), you can dress up the hoe...but it's still just a dressed up hoe. Get over the "Classy" crap and get real.

How GREAT EWP could be if they would just get a clue! IMO, they have the most detailed stills (from what I've seen) and have the best videos (as far as how they approach) in the erotic horror/asphyxia scene. If they would just do it right, they could also be the best in the B&D world as well!

If there are others out there who know of EWP and feel similarly, you guys need to write and voice your opinions and views, so they can see what sort of a market THERE could be. And I KNOW it could be a much, much larger audience then they are presently catering to.

Just had to vent after seeing the PPV.

Later

I have no idea about the high heels and pantyhose, other than it's a fetish for a lot of people (not me, though) and probably the filmmakers. Like you noted, they make what they like, and there's no question their stuff is very good, as evidenced by the 4 vids I've seen from them. But I wonder if they are ever going to release something I can watch on my TV. Pay per view is a poor substitute. I hope that's not going to be the path they choose from here on.

But anyway congratulations for your success. I think you will be fluent in Japanese soon, you're starting with this. Actually I improved my English dramatically by reading through Dan Hawke's video descriprions. (seriously)

Anyway 4,160 Yen is pretty good. I bought my copy through Nikkatsu's official site and they charged me 6,000 yen plus shipping charge 600 yen. I hope it won't get ceased in the custom.

Backlash: I was also ashamed as I got aroused with Spiderman 2. It's not your fault, let's blame Dr.Octopus.

Apart from Spiderman 2, I've watched a Spanish film called "Abres Los Ojos"(open your eyes). The hero suddenely gets mad and ties his girlfriend's wrists to the bedposts and threatens her. She is in sexy nightwear and gets scared and weeps. Nosebleed comes out of the girl's nose as the guy hits her strongly, but it was still sweet.

By the way, does anyone have Lisa Kinkaid's phone number??

P.S., I went out and got a special edition howling video in the good old U.S.A. and it did not have the coveted fake porno scene as one of the specials. Does anyone know if you can get a version that does have this special in the states?

hattrick, thanks for the feedback on Bigbust VCD.

AvF, Sory for not getting back to you about Attackers #72, Yes, the bukakke scene does include bondage (as well as dildo rape & waxing), I believe there are 6 guys involved, altho some didn't fully contribute.

Money wasted, joined up to Bondage.org the other day, and it still sucks, some of the worst pix (quality wise) I have ever seen on a website, the videos don't work (QT). 10 years on the web and 4th overhaul and BM still can't get it right. On the good side I did scrounge some pix that I had never seen before of some old faves.

Lisa Kinkaid's phone number...hmmm...how about you post your phone number here instead, and I'll have her call you?

DM: Glad you've finally graduated and now have an actual handle we can address you by. Guess that means you're officially part of the team now.

Damn, I knew it had to be too good to be true. When Jaeckill said he found his Howling DVD on eBay, I figured it was a special edition from some other country. Different regions often have different extras, I've noticed. To allow a porno movie, even a softcore one, as an extra on a mainstream horror DVD in the states just seemed "wrong" for today's political climate. My DVD is scheduled to arrive in a few days. At least I'm not out any money, since I'm in Greencine's rental club anyway, but I'll know in advance to be disappointed now :(

Baronorca: Oh, c'mon! The forced blowjob is a tried and true favorite. The bitch is already tied up, and she would have to be awfully stupid to attempt to use her teeth against her attacker. He could really fuck her up otherwise, so her best strategy is just to comply and hope she doesn't get hurt. He's going to do what he wants to her anyway, but if she bites, she has to know that he'll torture her for sure, or maybe worse. If anything, she would do just the opposite, make sure it was the very best blow job he's ever had. Fear is a good motivator :)

Baronorca, I personally don't get anything out of a tied girl giving a blow job to her captor - and the teeth argument is a good one (even given the "she know what is best" argument) unless she has a ring or dental gag. But for my tastes it is more fundamental - I really would be looking at a girl's privates parts in torment that at her face sucking on a guy's private part. I actually prefer a female domme torturing girls so that I can enjoy the sight of both captive and captor.

I DO like the idea of a female captor forcing a pure, innocent, and non-lesbian girl to lick her pussy though, so I do dig the concept of the captive being forced to give pleasure to her tormentor - just as long as it's not a dick, lol. I think my angle of enjoyment is more voyueristic than a lot of bondage fans, since I really never imagine myself in the captor's position.

Not that I don't get the appeal of the stern yet sexy Ilsa dom tormenting cute girls, and sometimes that's all right, but it still smacks of artificiality to me and takes away the fantasy. Men are more believable in this role. Men are naturally better at torturing and forcing girls to have sex against their will. I mean, a guy has a dick, his very own penetrating weapon to hurt girls with! The only way a woman could do that would be to use a strap-on. Anytime you have a woman playing this part, she is trying to do what men do naturally. Some can pull it off; most can't.

I'll go back to my mantra: Never send a woman to do a man's work.

Okay, that's my opinion, let's hear some others. Lady doms, or males? Which do you prefer?

As for websites like bondage.org, what are the good sites to join? I'm always looking for more but I think I've exhausted all the highly rated ones on rapelinxxx.

When a captive gives her capter blowjob instead of a good bite into the evil thing, the preparation must have been done beforehand. My dream course is like this;

Captor nicely askes the captive

>>> Captive refuses

>>> Captor decides to give her a lesson with some GIMP tools

>>> Finally the girl offers him one

This is sweet. That's why I really liked the drawing one before. (Thanks Ralphus)

Here's a storyline I would like to float for comments from GIMPers - a setting in a Roman Empire gladiator type environment where two girls are fighting, but rather than trying to kill each other, they are fighting to get the upper hand so they can secure their opponent and proceed to torture the shit out of her to the cheering crowd. A twist I like to entertain is that the heroine of the story is a soft, sexy girl, and her opponent is tough and hard, and the match is completely one-sided. The experienced "gladiator" proceeds to target our heroin's softer regions - kicking her in the belly and tits relentlessly, and then tying her up pulling the ropes around her tits, belly, and through her pussy very, very tight - the loser is hers to torment for as long as she likes and however she likes.

P.S. I really like your story line idea!

Ralphus: Thanks for the kind welcome to the club.

Finally, has anyone definitively found a place in the U.S. that sells or rents the Howling DVD with the porno raping scene in the specials?

I'm sorry to keep bringing these sites up, but has anyone seen the above? Looks like really good bondage and force, but the samples don't reveal enough and you can't get a membership without ordering a $40 video. Any thoughts?

Put in my 2-cents for blowjobs.

Later

I had other problems with that site, the most annoying of which was when they revamped their site, suddenly all their jpegs were coming out as UNTITLED.BMP, and I had to manually re-label each and every one of them. With an average of 200 new files every week, this was tedious work and made it a hassle to save the pics. When I wrote them about the problem (several times), they basically ignored me, then waited several weeks to finally reply, giving me some bullshit answer that their primary function was to let their members view the material, and not necessarily download it, then added that many companies are switching to non-downloadable streams to save on download costs.

I wrote them back and told them no one would want to renew their memberships if they couldn't keep what they paid for. They eventually fixed the download problem with the pics right before my membership was up, but I decided not to renew anyway. I may go back eventually, because I was generally happy with their content. Just not their customer service.

Bob Smith: I recognize at least a few of those titles as being the same ones that are offered at Slave Labor's Gangbangers series. Mr. D wrote an overview of what some of them are like at the URL above. That might help you.

Any other good websites to join? There seem to be new ones popping up all the time. http://cruelvideo.com/ looked like it had more bondage than most. Got that link from Lorelei's site.

The problem with me is I dont have time to watch every file in full just to make sure it will play correctly. On top of that by the time i may try to watch a movie my membership might have expired months ago.  here is the fix to the bitmap problem as i seen some other people in tech forums complaining about this happening.  The problem probably wasnt brutal violence related but they should have known how to correct it.

I think alot of these sites are run by the same people and you can tell their format is the same. it is about 5 pages of really nothing specific offering you the world but showing you nothing that is on the inside and then the join page. Most of these more crappy sites have a 3 day trial membership. I have joined alot of these three days trials and was able to download the entire video section and then cancel. the funny things is I am not sure the sites were worth the price even at the trial price. Like I said most decent sites give you a peek of what is on the inside. If you dont see that buyer beware!

Bob Smith wrote :

I'm sorry to keep bringing these sites up, but has anyone seen the above? Looks like really good bondage and force, but the samples don't reveal enough and you can't get a membership without ordering a $40 video. Any thoughts?

Bob Smith: I recognize at least a few of those titles as being the same ones that are offered at Slave Labor's Gangbangers series. Mr. D wrote an overview of what some of them are like at the URL above. That might help you.

No, I don't quite to know what to make of 'em both. Note both have copyright and age of model notices which don't agree with each other and neither mention "Gangbanger Tapes." The Internet Archives appears to show that forbiddenact.com has been around since 2001. Of course SLP has been around longer and has a positive reputation, while I've never heard of the others.

All of this suggests (but does not prove) that the previously mentioned two may be bootleg sites.

Jaeckill: Please e-mail me when you get a chance.

I took another look at ZFX's South of the Border 5 tonight, particularly Marly Rowe's spreadeagle bed rape. Great to go back and watch that part again. I was admiring how well that scene was put together and how it was still arousing to me, even though I hadn't seen it in a few years. It struck me that Masters has made so many great movies that will stand the test of time as erotic masterpieces. I mean, who else is filming scenes as good as that scene today, or even in the past? Since you can't view the stills on their site anymore, I'm posting a few tonight to remind people just how good ZFX can be.

The primary star in the more recent tapes is of course Brandy Dean and the tapes which are sold at deanenterprise's and the companion forbiddenact site are all hers {and whatever partners/associates she has}. I would surmise that SLP was originally just another place for them to sell their tapes prior to getting their own website and ordering system up and running and they apparently still have some working relationship to continue to supply videos.

Final thoughts, I have ordered from the forbiddenact site before. Never had any service problems and the tapes arrrived with 7-10 days if memory serves. The combined elements in them of a stalking, sometimes bondage {although fairly weak} actual sexual penetration make a decent recipe for D.I.D. action. My biggest knock on them would be that Brandy herself is reasonably attractive {perhaps a bit overdone on the breasts for my tastes} but is marginal at best in conveying any terror when she is supposed faced by crazed rapists and attackers. Some of the other actresses they use are more convincing. And the bondage used to restrain the victims? Sorry but my grandmother could probably get loose from them and escape.

Bottom line if in doubt you might try picking a video with a girl you find attractive and see what you think {kinda like the pot-luck with the Japanese vids!} Though with the addition of info from helpful board members who can either read or translate/decipher some the process will get easier for people to find those which appeal to them. {Much thanks there}.

As a final note, since I hadn't chimed in yet about when I got into my current winding road of deliciously twisted fetishes? I was 6 or 7 and watching one of those safety films which they made little kids watch in school. I remember vividly the scene about accidents in the home where the kid comes home and his June Cleaver looking mom who is hanging a curtain falls off a stepstool and is knocked cold. I couldn't get the strange feeling I got looking at her helpless form {I would say at the time interest, now arousal would be a better term} out of my head. And in my coming formative years would find playmates to indulge my D.I.D. doctor fantasies, the rest is as they say history.

"In the Darkest Corner of the Mind, Lies the Truth" - Wolvie

Still considering the Dean tapes. If that's Brandy, I like her big boobs. I personally would rather see a good situation than realistic bondage (suspension of disbelief. I'll believe she's restrained if she acts like it) but unfortunately it sounds like the situation isn't acted all that well either. Hmm.

Nonetheless, if anyone is curious about Brandy, check out Dan Hawke's Bound and Busted and Tormented Tease for vids she made that are actually good. Dan makes the most of her best asset, her huge milky boobs, with some excellent breast bondage in both vids, including scenes where milk seeps from her nipples while they are tightly tied up.

Ok.. back to Jap tapes :) Will be adding several more Nikkatsu vids on next update.

http://rapelinksxxx.com/home.html

HOWIE

Howie, I am familiar with rapelinksxxx. They are excellent, though it takes some time to wait for people to post comments. Guess I shouldn't be so impatient.

People keep mentioning "the other" superior websites. What are they? Where are the best places to go for ZFX quality pictures and vidoes? Stories, sex, good acting?

Regarding Gangbanger vids. The vids were produced, directed and are sold by Silverback. Brandy at forbiddenacts and slave labor do indeed have permission to sell those vids from Silverback.

If your really joansing for something harder, I would suggest joining an art site like drawingpalace.com or bdsmartwork.com if you haven't already. The artists there are truly outstanding, and I actually prefer good art over live action, as there are never any of the aforementioned moments goofy acting or grins on the models faces. With a good artist the exact tone their shooting for is always nailed and maintained throughout. Art also has the ability to go MUCH further than live action could or even should, all in a believable, but much more palatable fashion. Anyhow, that's my two cents.

HOWIE.

However, on bdsmartwork.com there is a story called Zanzibar, The Sequel that you might be interested in. A kidnapped, beautiful, blonde, white girl is sold at  an Arab auction to an ugly, overweight, Arab woman and her daughter. Needless to say, the hetrosexual blonde girl is put through her paces by the overweight Arab lesbian. The story consists of over 100 color pictures, each accompanied by several lines of text. The story is still on going and to me, although the site is packed with other material,this story alone was worth the price of a one month's subscription.

Camaron does absolutly zip for me so I haven't looked into it any further. But she's suppose to be one of the "It" girls to a lot of people so thought I'd let you guys know.

Later

However, I think Cameron is hot, or at least she used to be, and she's not shy about doing bondage scenes in movies (6 scenes already in her career, according to the Brian's Page database).

The list is not gone; I anticipated Yahoo's actions and saved a copy for myself, but it's really too long to post here on the forum. I suppose you could drop me an e-mail and I could send it to you, but this list is so good it deserves to be posted somewhere where others can easily access it. I'll talk to my technical adviser and see if we have room to possibly host the list here at the GIMP.

Another comic site for gimpers is:  http://gymnast.boundheroines.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album08&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

I know this was discussed way earlier, but I gotta get my two cents in -- the last 20 minutes of Love Object has the most impressive GIMP scenes I've ever seen in a movie -- with great acting.

I will give art a try. I've always just assumed that I was a live-action kind of guy, but who knows, maybe I'll discover a new interest. Thanks.

Another new topic related to ZFX films. In real life some 18 year old women look like 28 and some 28 year olds look like 18. I have often wondered what the age range is of the women of ZFX. Of course it is impolite to ask a woman her age, but using ranges 18-20, 21-23, 24-26, 27-30, and 31 and older, how old do people think our favorite girls are?

Best of all is the 'payback' storyline. Obviously, the role-reversal is absolutely no fun w/ a male torturer. But a female victim who has endured torture has some serious motivation going for her when it's her turn to dish it out. (Needless to state, 'Violation of Vicki Fixx' is one of my favorite ZFX issuances). Also, a female dom can do certain things that would be sexy only if done by one female to another (e.g. punching her stomach or tit), but might be too cold if done by a male. So, yeah, let's have some female torturers every so often.

Bob Smith: I'm honestly surprised by your feedback on bdsmartwork. I used to sign up there at least once a year, b/c they have great content. It would be disappointing if things are as bleak as you say, but then they'd have to take a lot of their old content out for things to be that bad.

They had numerous short series by great artists like DeHaro, Nilsson, and Aries. (Do they still have the stories of 'Ed' and Cortez illustrated by Aries? Great stories, w/ good art is hard to beat!) I know I got my entire 'Witchhunt' by Roberts during my last membership, as well as the 'Iron Master' and 'Gladiatrix' series by Mr. Kane (now there's a cruel guy who knows how to keep the sexual element in his tortures!). And the whole "Passage East" story by the great Ferres (over 150 slides), must still be up there unless, heaven forbid, they took it off. There's also this nifty poser series by Composer (aka CP2000) of this Princess who is mercilessly tortured by two demons. So, really, is all that stuff no longer there? Perhaps you've got to give the site a more thorough look see. I'd hate to hear that one of the 'top 3' artsites has fallen on bad times.

BTW, it seems the ever-interesting Roberts has moved to a new site, roberts-comics.com, where supposedly all his works are available in one stop. He'll always be one of the best, so I guess that's where I'd go, rather than DarkStar, if I were you.

BTW. I think Tabitha Jordan manages to be pretty menacing.

You can order it on DVD from Forbidden Video at the link above. It's still one of my favorite bondage rape scenes in any movie.

But I really to have to re-iterate Milo's sentiment that I'm a little surprised you didn't like it. I'm betting that you just haven't tooled around the site enough, because even taking into consideration the minor complaints I just mentioned, there is still some AMAZING artwork in there. I know that they don't remove the old material, so it's all still there. The navigation on the site isn't as straight forward as it could be, but trust me, have a little patience, and you won't be sorry you joined in the least.

HOWIE

Yes, I've found a few artists that have more complete comic strips on the site, but they are far too few. What I was hoping for was something more complete than live action. I understand that producers often cut out the on screen tying and stripping and plot because it just takes too long. But an artist can do whatever he wants. Yet I'm just seeing the same thing. Jump right into the bondage scene with no story.

Considering these sites cost as much as video sites, it will be a very expensive trial and error game.

In other news, Goldie has a new webmaster so it looks like her site will be back running and updating soon! :)

SOB-6 features an incredible performance by Elaine Payton, who knows how to struggle, emote and suffer with the best of them, particularly in her electroshock torture scene, and the finale where she's burned with cigarettes and finally raped.

Really, you can't wrong with most ZFX vids, so if you've seen the SOB series, check out some of the older stuff, like the Night Prowler, Gangland and Video Pirates offerings. Lots of great stuff there.

Ralphus: what can I say, once again you immediately come up with the Love object picture. I couldn't agree more with your recommendation for the SOB series, especially the last few with Elaine P. She and Lisa do the best job of emoting/acting in ways that are true to the situation at hand. And when it's all over, Elaine does a mean Macarena as well!

As for ages (mentioned awhile back): My bet is that Lisa could not have been much older than 19 in the first "Beyond Driven Evil Man" and "The Suffering of Stephanie Renford" movies, which I think were her first movies for ZFX. I think they came out in 1993, If that was the case, Dirty Little Lisa would be about 30 now..

Didn't you use this pic here once before? I swear when I saw it today and read the title of the pic the first thing that popped into my head was "repost".

Probably not. I might be suffering from porn overload. Everything is starting to look the same to me lately. Hail

Nonetheless, from now on, I'm issuing my Ralphus Guarantee on all further pictures posted to this site. If for any reason I post a picture here that I had previously used before, I will offer anybody who catches the mistake DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK for whatever you paid to visit this site. Why? Because I care about all of you...my fellow pervs, degenerates and weirdos who like to see girls tied up and raped, tortured and generally treated in nasty ways for our collective amusement.

Along that line, I'm curious as to what GIMPers most like to see as the daily picture. Generally, I post whatever floats my boat, usually trying to find something that follows whatever line of discussion happens to be going on. Sometimes the pics themselves inspire discussion, the most obvious example being the Torture Galaxy skewered bloody tits pic I ran last month, in which seemingly everyone seemed to have an opinion about. On the other hand, I just posted 4 stills from a storyline series by Brutal Violence (the one with the spreadeagled naked chick getting tortured with the burning stick) and completely shut the board up...nary a comment all day, and I thought the stills were great myself. As my one friend, a fellow GIMPer, commented, "Most of us can think of better things to do with a tied- up woman than burning her." True that, but burning is torture, just like whipping, electric shock, etc. but whenever I post pics along that line, no one says anything.

So I'll let you all sound off. Since this board belongs to you, you should dictate what you want to see, and I'll try to fill your orders. I literally have thousands of pics in my voluminous collection. So, for those of you who have an opinion, what do you want to see?

Here's your choices, but feel free to add whatever you want to the list:

* Bondage/torture photos
* Bondage/torture artwork (like Roberts, Damian, etc)
* Stills from bondage videos (harder to find, but I have some)
* Stills from bondage scenes in mainstream films
* Rape photos
* Rape artwork
* Breast bondage pictures
* Hanging pictures
* Electroshock pictures
* Burning pictures
* Celebrity fakes (adding ropes and gags to famous people, like the Lindsay Lohan pic I ran that time)
* More bloody, skewered tits, damn it!
* Butterflies and flowers (because they give you a warm feeling inside and make you sing like a little girl)
* You're doing just fine, Ralphus, keep up what you're doing

Gentleman, this board belongs to you, so I'll step aside and let you take the floor. Let's hear some comments and liven this place up.

I am your most recent known site stalker. (Oops, cats out of the bag- I never was very good at stalking). I really enjoy reading your posts and have found the links and reviews very helpful. Being a woman, it is good to hear the male point of view. I also find that you are much more open and descriptive than women would be. I would appreciate it if someone could tell me if there are any films out there that have a man tied up (or otherwise restrained) and forced to watch while his woman is being tortured, raped, and brought to orgasm in front of him (against her will too, of course).

Annie: The only one that quickly comes to mind is a scene in a mainstream movie -- SnakeEater. Male and female captives are tied in sleeping bags and hung from a tree and the villian cuts the woman's bag down and starts to rape her while the other is still hanging and forced to watch.

The other stuff is cool too, though I am not really one for the hanging pics (unless it's from her tied tits, hee hee hee)

"* Bondage/torture photos" and "* Bondage/torture artwork (like Roberts, Damian, etc)" - Absolutely. Hell, yeah. Every day of the week, and twice on weekends. But if you're too busy, then torture, rather than bondage please. And keep the torture 'localized' to the good spots, anatomically speaking.

"* Stills from bondage videos (harder to find, but I have some)" -- Does anyone here still think Ralphus has "some"? Judging from the wealth of both knowledge and files he has consistently displayed, I suspect "some' for Ralphus is a lot for the rest of us. Roll out the shopping cart.

"* Stills from bondage scenes in mainstream films" -- interesting quandry. In this field, Hank Hobbs will always be 'the Man', so perhaps we should render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. So, instead of 'bondage from mainstream films', we should stick to 'torture' (other than whipping) from mainstream films.

"* Rape photos", and "* Rape artwork" -- personally, the bondage/torture photos and artwork are much more preferable. But so we have something for everyone, let's have photos and artwork of babes being raped while in bondage undergoing torture.

"* Breast bondage pictures" -- Ok. Make that photos and artwork of babes being raped while in breast bondage undergoing tit torture.

"* Hanging pictures". I'm w/ BBFan on this one. If you're talking about hanging by the neck, forget it.

"* Electroshock pictures" -- Ok, but let's have good ones. None of those inanimately posed shots, where the victim actually seems to be enjoying the vibrations. Let's have the thrashing wildly kind.

"* Burning pictures" -- like hanging, and anything snuff: big, fat, red, NO. There are enough other sites for that.

"* Celebrity fakes (adding ropes and gags to famous people, like the Lindsay Lohan pic I ran that time)" -- Nah. No one does it well enough anymore, anyway.

"* More bloody, skewered tits, damn it!" -- Let me think about this one. I like to see big tits paddled, whipped, beaten, squeezed, cropped, shocked, pressed, ironed, roped, rubber hosed, singed, bitten, slapped, pincered, pliersed, wrenched, twisted, sandpapered... but skewered? What kind of sicko do you take me for?

"* Butterflies and flowers (because they give you a warm feeling inside and make you sing like a little girl)" - Ok, but only if the butterflies are raping the flowers while subjecting them to bondage and torture. Squeeze those pistules. Whip those petals. Beg for mercy, you dandelions!

"* You're doing just fine, Ralphus, keep up what you're doing." -- Is there any doubt?

In it a couple is kidnapped by a psychopath, leading to a scene around a campfire not to be missed. It begins with Corrine Clery lying naked on the ground while her husband sits tied up a few feet away. Not to give away too much of the plot, but there is an interesting ambiguity in her expressions about half way through her violation to the end of the scene.

I've always been a fan of the Story of O movie that she was in, so this was a welcome discovery. If the scene would have included her being forced to disrobe it would have been absolutely perfect, as it is, its pretty close for mainstream.

Actually, that is not the latest custom video we had done - Office Policy was shot last year. The latest is the second BoundnDetermined custom that was just shot last month (still being edited). It's untitled right now, but the theme is that two cheating girls in a college class must undergo tortures by their professor to see which one will pass and which one will fail.

Seriously, welcome, and we're glad you quit stalking us and decided to grace us on the forum. By the way, we're all pretty harmless here, except for the Hollywood Vampire, and all he does is try to flirt with anybody who might be remotely female. Just humor him :)

You asked a good question. In actual bondage films, the Japanese are fond of that scenario, having the man tied up and forced to watch his wife get attacked, leaving him helpless to do anything to stop it. One of my favorites is actually a fairly famous Japanese title, Captured For Sex 2 (also known as The Sacrifice 2). After their car breaks down, a couple are taken to a man's house and both get tied up. The man is forced to watch as the young woman gets tortured, and he ends up later deciding this is fun, so he helps the guy torture her himself, as well as more women the two pick up along the way. Video Mayhem carries this title for only 12 bucks; it's one of my all-time Ten Best Japanese films.

Among mainstream scenes, an obscure film called Because of the Cats features a great scene where the husband is forced to watch his wife being gang-raped, and he can only watch in despair as she is violated.

Another one is a film with the exploitive title Kidnapped Coed, where a man is tied up and can only swear at them while his cute friend is raped by the bad guys. This one is available at Something Weird Video for just 15 bucks. Worth a look; I kept the scene on my highlights tape.

Gimpfan: The scene is Caged Heat 2 with Jewel Shepherd is a very cool whipping scene; good choice. It doesn't hurt that Jewel was a major babe, either. One good title to seek out is The Punishment of Anne (beautifully restored on DVD as The Image). A gorgeous blonde is severely whipped and given other nice tortures near the conclusion of that film. That's just a good movie, period, worth watching all the way through without your thumb ever going anywhere near the fast-forward button.

BTW, for a list of films with whipping scenes, visit Oslo's Whipping Scenes in Movies site at www.wsimd.com. It will have whatever you're looking for, except for the actual live girls for you to whip yourself. You'll have to find them on your own.

Thanks for the tips on films that fit my request. I have had this particular fantasy for a long time, glad I might finally see it in action. I will be sure to check out your suggestions.

BTW, Lindsay if you are still lurking on the side lines– here is the definition of fantasy: the imagining of improbable or impossible things. I read your post and like the guys said– quit passing judgement on what you don’t understand.

For those of you who have not seen it, Marina's first "substantial" screen role is in a period costume piece as a peasant girl who has a public confrontation with Dunaway's "lady" over a rogue they are both sleeping with in a field surrounded by peasants. It starts out as a random girlfight, but Dunaway grabs a whip and starts flailing at Sirtis, managing to tear off her top in the process. Then Sirtis grapples with Dunaway, wrestles the whip away, and whips Dunaway while topless. I forget the final state of Dunaway's clothes... A fairly long scene for a mainstream movie. Sirtis' pert breasts spend a lot of time out in the open in direct sunlight (Hope they didn't get sunburnt *too* bad). (For you Sirtis fans, in her second *and* third film appearances she gets raped -- in Blind Date and (all too quickly) raped in DeathWish 3.

I don't want to risk having it delivered to work.. Imagine how miserable it is, you see all these great stills and read great reviews but you can't order anything.

As for your search, I have a very poor memory, so will have to ask the fellow Gimper's for verification, but I remember a mainstream porn movie that I believe had a scene similar to what you described. I think it was "Expensive Tastes". If I remember right, the guy sets up his girlfriend for a rape by playing the part of a helpless bound boyfriend (or something like that, to the best of my memory).

If any of this sounds familiar to you guys out there, please let us know if I'm right on the title.

Later.

Assuming it's Whitman's film, I believe it's out of print, but some places might still carry it. If it's the ZFX, there are a multitude of companies that sell it on the net. Do a Google search, but make sure you have the right title! :)

The breast bondage pics are from Office Policy. It's a custom that BBFan had made from BoundNDetermined. I haven't seen it, but maybe he can tell us more.

mr bush I HIGHLY recommend Hogtied as a value-for-your-dollar membership. They offer weekly updates with a lot of pics (lo-res at 70-90k per pic and hi-res at 180k-300k per pic), good sized downloadable videos, and all the content from the start of the site is available to members. Plus, the quality of the bondage has really risen a notch or two since Matt joined them (I think he was originally at Insex). Drawbacks are that they follow the Insex model of consensual play and you cannot (unless you know a trick) download the full-length videos. Whippedass and Waterbondage are done by the same company and follow the same content presentation format, they just have different themes. I personally would rank the sites as such:
1. hogtied
2.(tied) waterbondage and wiredpussy
3. whippedass (the verbal abuse is a major part of that site and comes across as contrived)
Honorable Mention fuckingmachines - that can be pretty interesting to see, but they rarely incorporate bondage and is just as expensive as hogtied to join.

Paulus I'm glad you like the pics. Problem is, I have not seen them put this video up for sale, so as far as I know, there are only 2 existing copies, mine and my partner's. If you like my ideas, drop me an email and we can talk about joining forces to get another custom done. No pressure, just let you know how we have done it, ideas we have, and see if you might want to contribute.

Gucci Loafer Ironically, I brought up "Wicked Lady" about a month ago - even put a bid on a copy on eBay, only to be outbid at the last minute. I remember being an adolescent and reading about that movie in some girlie magazine movie reviews - it's supposed to be a horrible movie, but that one scene is a real gem. I will eventually see that movie.

I know I can search the web and find places selling it, but I'm leery of just randomly picking some online store without knowing if anyone here had a good experience with them or not. Like, will they start sending me bondage related advertisements in regular mail after I order one video? Stuff like that...

I used to order my zfx stuff from that food site that rick had a relationship with. Now that they are apparently no longer in that relationship I'm not sure who to order from now?

I don't think anyone has reviewed Spring Break-In, specifically. But the Guest Reviews section has an overview of the Gangbangers series by Mr. D. That should be of some help.

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As to that custom video, looks OK+ (altho for breast bondage I would want to have a custom by Randi Ryder / Mallory Knotts, not the cutest girl in the biz, but anyone who can be suspended by her breasts....

As to the poll....Don't like the flowers & Bflys (unless they are tattoos of Flowers & Bflys on the back of a cute asian slavegirl, don't really care for anything fatal, other than that, the pix have been fine (a few even great).

I remember years ago there was a movie starring Linda Blair, I think. She was in prison and got raped by her fellow in-mates, with the handle of a broom (if I remember correctly). The scene took place in a bathroom. Later in the movie she wound up pregnant by one of the guards. Anyone remember it? Watching that film is the first time I remember finding pleasure from violence. I would really like to see it again–just for fun.

Bruno and Ralphus- I ordered your suggestions today, thanks for helping me out. Can’t wait to see if they are what I am looking for.

FWIW, if you are unfamiliar with NGs, I recommend the NG Browser "Agent" and the NG service "Giganews". You can certainly do without the latter but it offers a very high level of completion and roughly 90-40-15 day retention on text-stills-multimedia.

For those of you who have no idea at all what I am talking about, do a search on "newsgroups".

Although I'm in New Zealand I have the same issue, that I'm not at home in the weekday afternoons and having 3 other non-GIMPers in the same house.

My first ZFX was SOB-1 and I got it from Adult Video Universe, which is basically the same thing as CD Universe. In fact I picked up a few CDs at CD Uni, then went to AdultVid Uni to get SOB-1. As a result all the stuff was delivered as "compact disks" in the same package from "CD Universe". So no one noticed it.

I've just had a quick look in their site for shippings within the U.S.A. It says;

Standard: Your order will be sent via US Postal Service, UPS, or FedEx based on the size and weight or your order. Standard Shipping is the most economical shipping method and typically takes 3-7 business days from the shipping date to arrive.

"Or FedEx"... well I guess you can tell them not to send your purchase via fucking FedEx.

Other GIMPers: Click the link and see how big bondage market is and how ZFX is still dominating the scene. They have so many ZFX titles in the ranking with honest customer reviews (they seem to be really from the consumers, unlike in my old Japan where the company employees are paid to create fantastic, convincing reviews.)

Howie: Did you get Hana to Hebi?

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Annie~How YOU doing? ;-) Good God girl, 6'5"....sounds like you could hurt me. Better watch what I say to you huh.

Bye the way, how come you're not at the Olympics, slam dunking everyone?

Linda Blair's TV movie reminded me of another TV movie that rung my bell (even if only a TV movie). I don't know the title and was hoping you guys might know. It starred Shawnee Smith and was a true story about a Florida serial killer who kidnaps Shawnee and kept her as he had her help lure other victims. Anybody know the title?

Later.

Seriously, thanks to Linda Blair and thanagar for the info on “Born Innocent”. Even though it was a TV movie, it was a great scene and put my imagination into overdrive.

Unfortunately, the TV movie glossed over the torture completely, not showing it and barely even alluding to it. In my opinion, they also blew it with the bondage, too, having both pretty victims tied with their hands in front (Arrrgh!) and not even gagged at all. Still, McRaney was a good villain and the story is fascinating, even if you're wishing for more, but hey, that's what you get with made-for-TV movies. What I wish is that someone would remake it for an adult audience, rate it NC-17 and don't hold back on the realism. I would be first in line to buy tickets. Of course, Rick made a couple of good serial killer movies, Guilty and its sequel, so that's probably about as good as we're going to get.

I remember the electro shock (implied) scene Ralphus spoke of. Best part if I remember right as it had Shawnee tied to a bed.

Ralphus as far as your comments about Rick's "Guilty", he did mention a little while ago eluding the possiblity of venturing into the erotic horror scene (not really sure of how serious he was) because of the potential political backlash the B&D/Forced video theme is under right now from the Moral Majority. Who knows...but then again, being about a serial rapist killer would be the kiss of death.

It's funny how they (the erotic horror scene) can show girls naked, tied, and tortured (and worse. By the way Ralphus how 'bout a pic or two from the genre for those not in the know.),....as long as no sexual innuendo exists in the productions. But if Rick or anyone else shows the same, except with a forced rape (impied or hardcore) they face possible reprocussions. Go figure.

Annie...I knew you weren't really 6'5" (gulp...phew ;-)

Later

re: Bindher.com - I enjoyed the PPV clips I downloaded from Bondagedirect. Is the quality of Bindher vids the same with acting and some nudity?

What movie is this?

http://www.tgpprofessional.com/celeb113

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I loved Hail's latest creation so much that it's our daily picture this time. Yes, sex-crazed Ooompa Loompas! Obviously a scene cut from "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory". Maybe it will turn up as an extra on the Special Edition DVD. We can only hope.

And Hollywood, try to resist the obvious Ralphus/Oompa Loompa jokes. I'm a dwarf with an afro, not a damn Oompa Loompa! I don't know how that silly rumor got started...

A better Jessica Alba bondage movie would be "Paranoid". She spends a good deal of the movie handcuffed to a bed. A couple of highlights are when she stretches to try and reach her cell phone with her feet. The other is where she briefly gets a breath resriction torture treatment when a dry cleaning bag gets placed over her head as she's helpless to do anything about it.

As for Idle hands...I've seen it but it must not have rung my bell in the slightest, as I don't even remember the scene.

Later.

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Jessica is a major babe, but my problem with that show was the way they wrote her character. She was portrayed as this tough, ass-kicking machine, rather than a traditional damsel in distress. Even in the scene where she gets shocked, she wasn't acting scared, and was talking trash right before she got it. Maybe the writers are fearful that in this day and age, it's not politically correct to show a female that gets victimized, but man, that's a formula that worked for years and years, and this was Jessica Alba, dammit! Still, I'm glad we got that one brief scene, and it was worth it to see her suffer :)

So who captures the true distress of erotic distress? The bondagedirect video clips seemed to have a little, but they skipped the stripping! Unless the complete videos show the stripping, but I doubt it because most of these producers also cut from the setup to the bound nudity. That's another thing, the process is important. ZFX cut sometimes too, but at least we saw the stripping and complaining.

For that matter, who leaves the models ungagged so they can complain?

I saw a great video on Hogtied of Xana Star trying to tie her boyfriend and getting the tables turned. The first few clips were great until it became a standard gagged/multiple position video.

The usual backround is some woman/girl dissing a guy or group of guys and "getting her comeuppance" -- this much you can tell from the video without actually understanding the audio. The actresses are often very attractive and usually pretty good actors (I presume this really is acting because many also do non-rape Japanese porn -- the acting is often good enough that one might otherwise wonder)

If you (or anyone) wants a good one to start with, I would recommend Shark Rape #160 (Vid Mayhem #01333), "Lady Panther 2" -- the girl in this one (Oikawa Nao) is utterly gorgeous and is a fairly good actress, going from sneering to defeated in the course of the fairly long video.

http://www.attackers.net/html/dvd/shk/shkd-170/bottom.html

That is a link to a specific video, but they have box covers (the big picture at the top left, be sure to click on it for a larger one) and, for many of the later ones, anywhere from 8 to 12 pictures from the video (click on the pix to enlarge somewhat). Note the "170" in the URL, that is Shark 170 -- you can look easily at any shark by changing that number from 160 to 214 (that is the DVD listing, I think it only goes back to 160, then you have to switch to the VHS listings for earlier numbers, an exercise I will leave up to you... earlier ones don't have the pix but do have large, visible box covers) don't hesitate to poke around, you can probably figure out how to look at videos from other suppliers besides "Shark"... This can get you an idea what many of the vids from VM are like in addition to the text and (sometimes) single, smaller boxcover that VM provides. Good site.

Since we're talking mainly about Japanese vids lately, a new review follows that should be of interest.

One of the more unique and effectively brutal Japanese bondage vids I've seen in a while is Attackers #75, available from Video Mayhem. The Attackers line of tapes is known for being especially torture-heavy, and this one again delivers the goods, with abduction, breast bondage, water torment...and even a laughing midget who's so disturbingly creepy that he makes Ralphus from Bloodsucking Freaks seem like a choirboy.

This one starts off with a rapid montage of a girl tied to a bed being tortured with a stun gun. She passes out and then is slashed with a knife by a midget wearing a mask, although none of the violence is really shown and it's entirely bloodless. This brief scene precedes the main story, in which a cute and busty young woman makes the mistake of allowing that midget, still wearing his mask, to lead her into an abandoned warehouse. We already know that bad things are awaiting her, but she doesn't. She gasps when he removes the mask to reveal a hideously burned face, which allows his normal-sized male partner in crime to sneak up behind and quickly grab and disable her. Their fun is about to begin.

After binding her to a chair and filling her mouth with a blue ballgag, the two open up her top and fondle her big boobs, and then put her through some bizarre treatments, including nose hair plucking (no, really!) and collecting the drool from her gag and injecting it into her pussy, all while the freak midget laughs hysterically like an idiot. Strange shit.

About a half hour into the tape, things start to get really good. Now ungagged and with her top opened to reveal her prodigious chest, the girl is tied in an uncomfortable position, forced onto her knees while sitting on a jagged surface. The midget gets up on her lap and bounces up and down on her bent legs, increasing her pain. Then they have lots of fun tormenting her tits, slapping and squeezing them, poking them with a pin and even tightening a vise around one of them, all while she loudly screams and cries.

At this point, the man blindfolds her and tapes a paper bag over her head (too bad; I prefer to watch her face). What she can't see is that the midget is getting ready with a blowgun, and her exposed tits are his target. He takes aim and fires several blow darts directly into her titflesh. Bullseye! The man then whips the darts off and also delivers several blows to the bag over her head. Once the bag is torn off, the man ties up her big tits and secures them to a hoist above her. Then they torture her further by dripping hot candle wax on her tits, and add a generous portion to her shapely legs as well. Her painful screaming really makes this work well.

Things don't get any better for her in the next scene. Now totally nude, she's again uncomfortably tied, this time while straddling a sawhorse, and her bound tits are still the object of attack. The two pervs crank up a battery-powered shock box and push the electrodes onto her tits and body, giving her several jolts of electricity. Then they clamp several clothespins on her meaty tits, which hurts enough, but they increase her torment by savagely whipping all the pins off, and continue to whip her some more just for fun.

This is followed by her being hoisted off the ground and suspended by an elaborate harness of ropes, leaving her bound facing upward, but hanging helplessly in midair. They position her head over a large barrel of water and proceed to give her several forced dunkings. Then they tie her in a standing position and blast cold water from a hose directly onto her body and face until they finally get bored and let the weakened girl down.

This one ends with another slashing in the last 30 seconds with again nothing shown. Gore is certainly not what the producers were going for, so anyone who who's squeamish about blood needn't to worry about being scared off. However, if you're into watching a lovely young woman doing some real suffering, and particularly into big breast torment, this one will more than fill your needs.
My grade: B+

I definitely prefer this site (since I'm a major breast whipping fan) to the places like Brutal Violence or RTBondage, with their very brief and generally fairly fake "tortures" including such things as running a leaf rake down a woman's back, spraying windex on her body, etc. PainGate generally has a more real feel to it, and those are definitely real marks.

I too have orderd from vcd1.com but the problem there is they change the titles and do not use the movie numbers. For example a shark movie may be called lady in trouble. So if you collect many movies you could end up with duplicates if you dont do the research.

That is why I think videomayhem is the best. Most of the stuff up there has the right names to it and the service and quality are very good. The price is also very good when you consider how much people pay for american bondage movies which for the most part are plot less and less intense. There are a few exceptions to this rule. I said this before I am not sure why people wouldnt buy from videomayhem on a weekly basis. I bet you if I had to judge my top 500 bdsm tapes 80% of them would be from japan and available at videomayhem.

She is one of the hottest girls I have ever seen in bondage. Looks a lot like Taylor Rain.

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Taylor Rain

Madison Goode

Taylor Rain

Madison Goode

Ralphus- Scary if another movie outdoes your “Bloodsucking Freaks” part. I am sure that bringing in the horrible and scary character of the midget would add an extra edge to the movie. But nose hair plucking, I don’t know that is kind of freaky.

AvF- Missed seeing you on the board this weekend, hope it was a good one!

I agree that vcd1.com is pretty confusing when listing the movies. But they do have pretty good stuff and some movies hard to find elsewhere. I don't shop that much from them, but every once in a while a title or two catches my attention. They appear reliable and have great customer service.

Paingate is highly recommended. Like Insex, it's the real stuff. Nothing fake or simulated. This is a site for people genuinely into real whipping and corporal punishment. I have been a member on and off since they started and they are continuously getting better, in my not so humble opinion. It appears like they have started cooperating with another producer which is often featured on the site. It works, since the style is very consistent and the quality as good as their own stuff. Guenuine, real scenes with lots of whipping action and real marks. Compared to other sites, it's really a matter of what your priorities are: good acting (which can be good in fantasy, ZFX style scenarios that are hard to re-create safely in real life) or the real deal (which might not appear as tough as a well performed fake scene, but believe me, it is!). As a fan of corporal punishment both in websites and in my real life play, I really enjoy Paingate.

They run a sister site, whippedwomen.com, which sometimes appears to get the material that didn't make it to the main site... I don't know, but I do get that impression. It might be worth to look into anyway! Their third site, "secrets" is basically an archive of old Paingate stuff that has been taken off-line from the main site. If you're new to the site, it's worth checking out, if you have been a member before, you might have seen the material already.

Since you have an inside line with the movers and shakers at Insex, maybe you can shine some light on their apparent shift in direction. All up through 2003 and early 2004, they made the basic staples of good bondage (which might be a good topic for this board, but I think they are:)

- Tight restraints around sensitive areas - i.e. breast bondage, crotch ropes, nipple nooses, etc

- Bondage that stretches the limbs and forces girls into uncomfortable, exposed positions and having to strain to relieve the pressure

- Relentless stimulation and large or inflated toys

- Situational bondage with two girls where each controls the other's level of pain/discomfort/stimulation

In addition, they would throw in some other fetishes, like foot torture (doesn't do much for me, but nothing that makes me look away), rubber (can be interesting), and the occasional golden or brown moment (NOT my cup of tea), insect (I guess that's in the name of the site, but also not my cup of tea), but there was enough material covering the 4 basic bondage elements to keep me hungry for more material.

However, it really seems that PD is moving more and more into experimental territory and moving away from the basic elements of bondage that keep me interested. Actual coitus, mud, strangulation (yes, I know many GIMPers are fans of strangulation, but I am not) and more emphasis on "Fear Factor" type stuff like bugs, etc. Also, it seems he is not getting the type of models he used to get. Gone are the days of A2, Rachel, Peaches, Mila, Cowgirl, Violet - the real hotties, IMHO, who have some air of innocence about them - and now is the time of models who have their positive attributes, but somehow lack that overall appeal (912 has nice large tits and can take a prodigious amount of punishment, but she's just... not... that... cute)

Is PD trying to take the site in a new direction? Is he looking for a different kind of model, or is that just the draw he is getting these days? The shift in action the site seems to be taking might be having an impact on the models willing to participate.

Understand, I respect PD enormously for all the breakthrough work he has done in the scene. Like Rick in the early 90's, he is dares to do things that push the envelope. His work has pushed competing sites to up the level of the bondage porn they purvey, and he pretty much defines this era of BDSM. I am just wondering if he is getting bored with this obviously successful formula and trying to change the direction of Insex.

During the time I have followed Insex (since 1998, almost from the start), PD has constantly been trying to find new directions for Insex, so changes has been going on all the time. However, he has always kept to a basic formula that is his own personal preferences. Among the things I know that PD definately likes is:

- Elaborate, Japanese style bondage

- All kinds of neck play, including strangulation

- Sensory deprivation

- Mind games, i.e. tortures that play as much with the brain as with the body (Electricity is one of these, BDSM type of electrical play is seldom very severe, but the scare factor of it makes it very, very effective in the right situation)

- Long term predicaments, like caging and all kinds of captivity

- State of the art metal and wood contraptions

These things have always been a major part of what we see at Insex. In addition, he has always had his periods where he focused on a particular thing and explored it to it's edge. He had a great metal period with all kind of metal restrains. The cattle prod was his favourite torture implement for a period of time. For a time he was absolutely obsessed with water scenes. He also had a pretty wild caning period. I think that is just how he works: He explores a new things and sticks to them until he finds something new to explore. But he always sticks to his basic formula. For the observer, it might look as if he is heading out in a new direction never to return, but he does always return to the core formula even if the excursions can take him far away from it at times.

Right now, he is still pretty excited about the farm location he acquired in 2002 and he constantly explores the possibilities there. Hence a certain direction towards dirty, muddy scenes in some shoots. I also know that PD at times is pretty frustrated whith other sites copying what he does, so he tries to do things that are hard to copy (financially and/or practically). This also leads him in certain directions. I think we will still see classic, good old Insex at the site, but always with a constantly changing flavor.

When it comes to models, it's definately harder to get models on the East coast, where Insex is located. Most BDSM models work on the West coast. It's also not that easy to find models willing to take what Insex dishes out, so "model supply" does vary a lot over time. I think that is what we see. Sometimes he finds a lot of great models, sometimes we have a slack in "model supply". I have seen complaints here that Insex uses overly tatooed models. I can assure you that PD does not like big tatoos, but since these are pretty common in the BDSM scene, many models that are truly into the scene in their personal life has them. Glamor style models don't, but we will never see those on Insex or any other site that deals with real life BDSM. Insex does not seek models with tatoos, far from it.

Needless to say after wasting WAY too much money on CRAP from Private I picked up thier TOWER series. Again, a big breasted blonde caught my eye and some mention on the cover of "danger" made me pick it up. It was very good! There was this stalker in the apartment building that was "raping" and then killing (which we never get to see him do) his victims. I say "raping" because the girls seemed to be enjoying it half the time but there were still a few good scenes with some very hot looking females, btw. Be warned though, there were more regular sex scenes than any "rape" ones. But still it was enjoyable and like I said the women were HOT.

The Tower series were 3 good quality videos that each had a few "rape" scenes! I was in heaven. But what was strange and I hope that someone here might know was that the "rape" scenes seemed badly edited. Worse, in the 3rd video it seemed that one part was cut out! Having lost my video collection years ago I was interested in picking these u p but I would definately want the unedited versions. Anyone else familiar with these tapes and shares my edited opinion?

Here's a site that lists Private's stuff if anyone is interested: http://tinyurl.com/4fjhy

Hail

By the way, how do you feel about the shorty Japanese dude infringing on your teritory as, up until now, Ralphus the Evil One, has been the only one in town.

Oh and Ralphus, if you continue to remain in your state of Oompa Loompa denial, you're lible to mis out on the Johnny Depp remake of W.W.& the Chocolate Factory. It'd serve you right though as you should be proud of your role in the original ;-)

A Taylor Rain B&D look-a-like....Humm, have to check that one out.

A long time ago I found a Jennifer Love Hewitt nude look-a-like that I mentioned to Rick to see if maybe he could recruit her for one of his flicks. At the time I thought it would be easy to find her again (as I stumbled on her by accident) but to date have never been able to find her again. The pictures had no B&D but like I said, with coaxing from someone in the industry, who knows. I still would like to find the site again as she looked hot. Anyone know of anything?

Annie~Hi Sweetie, you missed me huh, I'm touched (you guys watch it...especially you Ralphus)....or was the mention because you've heard of my legend ;-)

Later.

Witness one of their earliest (and best) movies, After School Surprise, which featured a spreadeagle bondage rape of Gauge, complete with penetration, which became their best seller. This is contrasted to one of their last, Robobabe 2025, also starring Gauge, but the rape scene was oddly filmed in comparison to the rest of the film. The rest of the movie is hardcore, but the scene where she is raped is simulated only, an intentional decision made because, quite simply, Forbidden was afraid to take the chance on being prosecuted.

Censoring of anything that might be construed as illegal today has unfortunately become all too common. Many of the Golden Age porn classics from the 70s and 80s, many of which featured bondage and rape scenes, are today being re-released in edited versions, including Barbara Broadcast, in which zee-ef-ex reviewed on the board, featuring a hardcore bondage sex scene that cannot be found if you buy the DVD today.

http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews04.html#barbara

I just found out that even a mainstream film that is one of my favorites, the 1977 version of Love Letters of a Portuguese Nun by director Jess Franco, has been censored in the DVD director's cut. Franco has a big cult following, since many of his films deal with naked women being tied up, raped, tortured, imprisoned and generally abused in one way or another. Most of his films are available in various versions, under various titles, depending on where they were released. I acquired Love Letters as bootleg years ago and thought it was one of his best, and even critics, who normally trash his work for being exploitative, like this one, too. So when I heard the film was being remastered for DVD, I couldn't wait to see it in a sharp, letterboxed print.

Then I was shocked to find that two of the best scenes, one where the beautiful young woman is tied to an x-frame and has various nasty things done to her nude body, and the other, where she is stretched and tortured on the rack, were both severely cut. After searching around the net to find out why, one website knew the answer. Apparently not long ago, a law was passed that prevents you from showing sexual torture to anyone under the age of 18. Clearly, the torture in the film was not sexual, but that didn't stop them from from editing the film to remove all the nudity in those two scenes. So what was acceptable in 1977, even critically acclaimed, cannot be shown today.

AvF: That whole thing about Mia Copia being a Tina Krause look-a-like was a hoax. What really happened was Tina wanted to get away from B-movies and get her SAG card so she could make mainstream films. So she came up with the Mia character so she could continue to film for W.A.V.E. and others. I'm not sure how many people saw through the obvious charade, since they looked exactly alike, but it was confirmed to me by Gary Whitson, the man behind WAVE, that Tina and Mia are indeed one and the same.

Honest upfront reviews of what we consumers can expect. There are so many bondage sites promising so many things. I can't surf them all.

One site that appeals to some of my interests is www.bondpics.com . Has anyone had any dealings with them?

There is also another new release using the same original print {I think Anchor Bay is selling it, which specifically has been cut by 6+ minutes due to the meddling of British authorities}. If you do indeed have Erwin Dietrich's release then the version you saw as a bootleg was undoubtably one of the dozens of permutations of Franco films floating around. Jess would often shoot more than one movie at the same {or nearly the same} time. In so doing he often shot many excess scenes which would be found and used later by Jess or occasionally someone else to alter the original films. In some cases wholesale inserts were filmed by other people {sometimes matching rather well into the Franco film and sometimes being so obviously from a different source it was painful}. So I am curious what version you have as the vidcaps for the Erwin Deitrich version show a topless woman on an x-cross in a waist-up shot.

"In the Darkest Corner of the Mind, Lies the Truth" - Wolvie

So, it looks like I got ripped off, and apparently there is more than one version of the DVD put out by Anchor Bay. Apparently the one I have is the same one that the one website also saw, where they were talking about the film being edited because of the Under 18 law. Looks like I will have to look harder, and double check the running times before I order. It's worth it. That's a damn fine movie.

I don't know if you have any of the other Jess Franco films in the collection or not, but if not then in the link you posted is the version you want, look at the dvd case for the VIP logo in the lower left front corner. VIP films is who Erwin Deitrich is working with to release all the films he produced for Jess {and a few others I believe}. That's what is on all the official versions I have thus far. So the link you posted actually should be for the properly uncut version of the film. I don't know where you picked up your copy but the page you posted links to Xploitedcinema which is where I have gotten most of my Jess Franco DVD's. So maybe you'll still get a crack at finding a fully restored scene, and it sounds like I need to pick up the proper restored copy for myself.

"In the Darkest Corner of the Mind, Lies the Truth" - Wolvie

Gucci Loafer~Thanks for the input but it's not Bridgett. The model is a nude model who (either her or the photographer) touted herself (and in title to the set) as "Jennifer Love Hewitt-The Look-a-Like" (or something like that). I couldn't find an actual name for her at the time but I mentioned it here at the board for Rick, thinking with him being in the industry, he might want to check her out and maybe coax her into a ZFX. Facialy she was REAL close in looks. Real busty w/ a tiny waist. I wish I would have saved the site, but like I said, I thought it would be real easy to find again....but still haven't been able to.

As far as Bridgett, she's one of my favorites. I mentioned that "Strange Days" was at Wal-Mart for $5.50. Great price for a hottie on DVD.

I had the original Red Shoe Diaries but I wasn't aware that she also appeared in a few episodes of the series. Any episodes worth checking out?

Later

Newbie: Welcome to the board. Hopefully you'll stick around and come up with a more established screen name soon. You and Mr.? both asked about groups or fansites for ZFX. To my knowledge, there are none. Hank Hobbs used to have a site that highlighted his ZFX bondage vidcaps, but it went bye-bye, twice now. It hardly seems worthwhile to start up any kind of bondage group on Yahoo with their propensity for arbitrarily deleting groups without warning. Besides, we're all ZFX fans here, and with over 5 years running, it doesn't look we're leaving anytime soon.

Your response makes me feel better about what to expect in the future from PD, et al. After reading your explanation, I see the pattern you are describing in the content offered at the site. All I can say at this point is that I look forward to seeing some of my favorite elements resurface at Insex. In the meantime, Hogtied (I understand that Matt used to work for PD) is doing some good work that focuses more on my favorite elements of BDSM (breast bondage, crotch ropes, forced orgasms using toys)- they have 3 fantastic big tit models coming in (Xana, Darling, and Ashely Renee), and I think they will get those boobs tied nice & tight (if they stay consistent with the recent offerrings). WOW, for the first time that I can rememeber, Hogtied is running ahead of Insex in my book (yes, I know Hogtied copies Insex, but a ittle competition is good in my book - makes for more material that I like being offerred).

Since I'm a good friend of Matt's wife, I had the opportunity to visit them during my vacation this summer and also got to see the Hogtied studio. Matt did, as you say, work for PD before and has contributed inmany Insex shoots. Hogtied does some good stuff, but as I got it explained to me, they are not into doing the severe pain stuff that Insex does. They do not wish to mark the girls as severly as Insex does. However, Matt is an extremely skilled bondage artist and his work will not dissapoint anybody interested in strict bondage. The style is, and will continue to be, slightly different from Insex. I think both sites has their merits and I will continue to follow both of them closely.

Insex and Hogtied are the only two sites that I consider worth buying a membership for. They both provide good, hard action, attractive models, and good quantity and quality of pics and vids. I agree that these two sites are worth following and recommend them both to anybody enjoying hard bondage.

Ooops - yes, that reminds me, I forgot to add Jenni Lee as a new member of the (bug titties ready to be tied) club and there's an update with her coming up soon as well. That makes 4.

Yes, I do see a difference in the work Matt and PD are doing right now, which pretty much is the reason I decided to post on it. Right now, Matt is doing work more in line with my tastes, but PD still holds the all-time record of awesome scenes.

Later.

You might check to see if CNDB has any info on her RSD appearances...

Easy - if you prefer tight bondage, such as tied titties (YES I WANT THEM PURPLE!), tied nipples, pulled nipples, and crotch ropes forcing girls on their toes, girl/girl situational bondage where as one struggles it hurts the other girl, and you like girls being violated and brought to orgasm on their bonds by dildos and vibrators, then Hogtied should be your pick.

If you like girls strung out and whipped more, Paingate should be your pick. It's a matter of what material you prefer.

1) twisted nipples using pliers, forceps or other tools (not fingers), like in the episode of Erotic perversion named "punished perversion"

2) progressive restraint of the belly using rope, like in the episode of Bondage Classics named "a little restraint please!"

3) the female being strangled while fucked from the back

4) the female being strangled while electrocuted, like in South of the border 1 of ZFX

5) rack electro-torture, like in Tourist trap 1

6) the tongue being clamped using pliers or other tools (not fingers), pulled out of the mouth and also a little twisted

7) fingers into female's mouth (three or more or the whole hand like in Master Costello's videos)

8) belly caning (with red marks)

9) target-games, using harmful bullets but painful when hit and leaving marks.

warning: all these videos must be performed by white skin females (not japanese and black) and, if possible, with not trimmed pubic hair.

i have read the GIMP phorum many times and searched in GIMP links, but, until now without results, so i decided to ask the readers personally; can anyone help me?

I look forward to read answers; thanks

kind regards!

That news about Insex is very interesting. I was a member early last year and don't recall seeing any sexual scenes of any kind. If true, that's pretty exciting. Forced storylines and Insex-style bondage might be just the ticket to get me back with them. Are we talking actual facial shots, too?

Bensan: I've seen some of the scenarios you described, but mainly they are in Japanese bondage vids, which usually push the limits more than US companies do. The stuff with the pliers I've seen in an old RDF loop, but I don't know where to get their stuff anymore.

SAR 20,sad to say, has no sex and the girl is only mildly attractive,imho. For rope bondage fans only.

Soembody please report on the Insex forced storyline issue. I'd definitely sign up for that.

What is pretty new to Insex, though, is that blow jobs has been featured. Not that often, but a few times during the past year. It definately challenges the norm in the US bondage industry, which has been "no sexual contact while in bondage". I don't think there has been any "facials", just brief blow job sequences.

Aaaah. Nothing like a classic porn Women in Prison movie review to finish off the weekend. This time, it's Jailhouse Girls, which stars the incomparable Ginger Lynn as the "innocent" babe behind bars.

Ginger plays a naive young aspiring actress working as a receptionist for a massage parlor. The cops raid the place and she gets arrested as a prostitute. Her protestations of innocence fall on deaf ears and she gets hauled off to prison along with all the hookers.

On the way to the lockup, paddywagon driver Joey Silvera decides to get himself a little of the tasty and testy young Ginger. As his female partner (Jill Cumer??) waits in complete boredom, Joey pulls the van over and goes in the back. With her hands cuffed above her head, there is little Ginger can do as she is fondled and groped by the officer. Joey goes on to force her to suck him off for a little while before fucking her from behind and dropping a load on her ass. Unfortunately for us, the scene doesn't quite live up to it's potential as Ginger acts the part of a scared and submissive innocent rather than a struggling rape victim.

At the prison (What, no trial? Must be Ashcroft's America), there is the usual WIP strip search by the tough lesbian (Chelsea Blake), the sterotypical lesbian encounter between Ginger and Raven plus the classic jailbird (Kristarra)/guard (Frank Serrone) romance.

Raven squeals to her lover, the warden (Paul Thomas) about Kristara's illicit affair and as punishment, Kristara is put into solitary confinement. This being a WIP movie, she's not isolated for long. Paul Thomas and Chelsea Blake show up and violate the hell out of Barrington. There's forced lesbianism, object insertion and a good old fashioned brutal rape. Many GIMPers will probably pick this as their favorite scene in the movie, but I must abstain since I've never had a good copy of this scene (I bought my tape many moons ago during a video rental store's going-out-of-business sale).

In the third and final rape scene, George Payne plays the asshole prison guard who takes advantage of the girls. He chooses Ginger, whom he undresses and forces to suck his cock. He then fuck her doggie-style while she grimaces, whimpers and cries. The scene ends as George dribbles his load on her tit. It's an understated scene, but a very "realistic" and effective one.

The movie ends with Ginger and Kristara escaping, thanks to Serrone.

Jailhouse girls isn't the best classic porn rape movie ever made. On their own, the rape scenes just don't stand out that much, though to my knowledge they are the only such scene Ginger Lynn ever did. It might just be one of the best WIP movies ever though. As alluded to above, its' got all the standard elements of your late-night cable softporn WIP movie (strip search, rape by prison guard, sadistic warden, hot lesbian sex) only hardcore.

If WIP is your kink, or you're a big Ginger Lynn fan, this is a must have movie. If on the other hand you're looking more for a pure rape movie, this one will probably not hit the mark.

I don't like that scratchy kind of rope that they use so much on that site. I also prefer different settings than that corny dungeon they use all the time. And there's something about the filming... it just seems dingy and not optimally focused.

It's hard to explain. But take a look on the 'net for some of the nngirl type websites' clips, for girls like MeganQT, Tiffany, Nikki, and more. I like the beauty, the youth, the bright, colorful, fetishy clothing, and the crisp photography. (BTW, they occasionally show those girls in light bondage or in dog cages, sweet! but I digress).

To me, Hogtied is almost the opposite of those kinds of pictures, which I find highly erotic. Even tho Hogtied is bondage, there's a drabness to their work which just turns me right off. As I said, it's hard to explain, your mileage may vary, and no disrespect to the efforts of the Hogtied folks. But that stuff just doesn't do it for me.

zee-ef-ex

What do you mean by "Progressive restraint of the belly"? Please email me. It sounds intriguing to me, and may be the look I was trying to get with the latest custom video we had done with Lew at BoundnDetermined.

http://marley.vipxhost.com/tgpnn/076/index.html

zee-ef-ex

The clips you have access to as a member are much better quality than the clips they put out for free - the quality of the members clips are equal to that of Insex.

I don't like that scratchy kind of rope that they use so much on that site.

That's just a difference in taste - I like the rough rope better than pretty colored rope as it has a grittier image and it has to be more uncomfortable.

I also prefer different settings than that corny dungeon they use all the time.

Yeah, i have to agree with you on that dungeon set (and that stupid schoolroom set).

It's hard to explain. But take a look on the 'net for some of the nngirl type websites' clips, for girls like MeganQT, Tiffany, Nikki, and more. I like the beauty, the youth, the bright, colorful, fetishy clothing, and the crisp photography. (BTW, they occasionally show those girls in light bondage or in dog cages, sweet! but I digress).

I'll take good, hard, painful, tight bondage over all of those other considerations any day, but I believe that Hogtied gets nice, youthful, hot models on a regular basis (and they have also been getting some nice busty models for good breast bondage - plus they have landed the bondage queen herself, Ashley Renee - not young, but DEFINITELY hot) - as a matter of fact, the level of talent has been increasing of late.

Yeh, I'm not criticizing the talent, it's more what they seem to do with the talent. Maybe it's because I think of bondage as an adjunct to other attractive stuff. I like fetishy elements, bright colors, bright lighting, "normal" settings (e.g. a bedroom versus a dungeon), sort of a "The Girl Next Door Suddenly Gets Caught Up in a Web of Bondage" motif. When the "Bondage" portion arrives, I don't really want the "Girl Next Door" side of things to depart. I don't want the visual imagery to be gritty and grainy and dim, the girl to be in some dark dungeon with mud and dirt streaks on her face and body, etcetera. And frankly, sometimes it may be something as simple as camera quality or camera angle.

One thing I like about Rix flix is that he tends to show both types of bondage I am describing (or additional types), and sometimes to mix the elements together. Yeah, he had those Minneapolis movies, where the girls were all dirty on the floor of a crumbling basement. Yuk - if I am fantasizing about fucking some bound girl, I don't want to think that before my dick can touch girl it first will need to penetrate a greasy grimy residue of dust and dirt on her skin. But then, he mixed up those scenes sometimes with colorful elements like bright orange duct tape. That's a nice touch.

But my favorite Rik flix are ones like Forced Entry, where the girls are just normal girls at home who have to deal with a home invasion, or Cheerleaders of Perilous U. I like those scenes of the girls in the shower, getting dressed, and then their "normal" setting is invaded. I want to see the girl transformed psychologically, not transformed physically from the beauty she originally posessed.

Whatever, to each their own. To me, take Next Door Nikki and place her in tight bondage with nipple clamps and whatever. As such, bring a different aspect of the girl's beauty to the foreground. Don't instead take her beauty away and blend her in with the dirt and grime so there is little difference between the background, and the girl, so that her beauty is dimmed and darkened rather than highlighted, that's how i see it. That's how Hogtied usually seems to me, like they removed the beautiful girl from the picture, like they covered a window over with a sheen of greasy dust that is hard to see through. It's hard to explain, but I hope you can gather what I mean.

zee-ef-ex

There are pliers on tits in HOM's shortie Bound and Impaled.

Picked up a copy of that in NYC the other day. The entire scene was DELETED!!

Soon as she runs out the door the scene ends and the film continues after the missing footage.

Censorship in this police state we live in is getting pretty bad indeed!

http://member.newsguy.com/~drkwatrs/reviews/girl-in-a-basket.htm

For rack electro torture, some of ZFX's early vids are nice - I think some titles that have this are Binding Contract and Doc Bondage.

Mr. D: Thanks for the review of Jailhouse Girls. I'll be adding that one to the reviews section soon. I've seen a still of Ginger Lynn with her hands handcuffed above her and about to be fondled; I always wondered what movie it was from. Pretty exciting to know she was involved in a rape scene, even a milder one. In the 80s, she and Traci Lords were the "IT" girls of adult films; at least they were the ones that the customers always asked about when I worked behind the counter. Too bad Traci never did one, since I always liked her better, with her big tits and those little noises she used to make when getting fucked, but then we'll NEVER get to see her stuff, for obvious reasons :)

I'm curious if Jailhouse Girls is still available in its uncut version. Does anyone know? I seriously doubt it, since you described a brutal rape and heaven knows we can't see THAT in an adult film today, or else we will all turn into sex-crazed rapists ourselves. Right?

BTW, I'm back. We had a storm Saturday that damaged my cable line, so I haven't been able to update the site since then. Looks like the board stayed busy while I was away; good to see. I'll have a new pic up tonight.

http://excaliburfilms.com/AdultVHS/jailhousegirls.htm

The inventory status check reports that it is "enroute to the warehouse."  Since it's a 1984 film I'd have to wonder what route it was taking.  OTOH, even if it's a dupe for $10.94 it's a good buy. 

It's also offered here where the price is $23.94.

I did notice that the more expensive site's version lists as being 84 minutes while Excalibur's copy is four minutes shorter.