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July 2001

Name: Iago
Homepage URL: http://ohfortheloveofgod.com
Comments:Damien, who're you kidding? You are ALWAYS on Rick's side. Let's face it, if the worst thing you can say about him is that he can't stick to his announced release dates, then you clearly need to get some more hobbies. He does it all himself, dood. The filming, editing, box art, and distributor negotiating, and all that stuff takes a lot of time, a good bit of which is not entirely within Rick's control. I think it's cool that he tries to give us a ballpark estimate. I'm not exactly sure what "non-linear editing" is, but from the sounds of it, we'll be seeing more high-quality ZFX, and produced in a quicker fashion than has previous been our lot to endure.

Personally, I think the actions against Yahoo are a waste of gas. Historically, no one has cared about the opinions of such a small slice of the population as we represent. But I do think it's neat that Rick is trying to be vocal about his displeasure with the new regiem in DC.

Come on, Damien, it's your old pal Iago, saying it's time to quit sulking. We've already had 2 ZFX releases this year, and with his new editing, we might still see a total of 4-5 films for the year. And some of the new models are pretty hot (Dangles ZFX box in front of a drooling Damien)...

(Grin)

Peace out,

Iago

Wednesday, July 4th 2001 - 09:58:32 PM


Name: BBFan
E-mail address: memfan@yahoo.com
Comments:Could someone whose seen Phallicide elaborate on the nice crotch rope work?
Thursday, July 5th 2001 - 02:14:50 PM
Name: zee-ef-ex
Comments:

I'm no expert, but it was tightly pulled up into her crevice. Worked for me (smile).

It's a pretty good flick. Two more reasons to see Phallicide, IMO:

1. Chains (tight, definitive bondage is always nice).

2. Sexual content (vibrating egg, lots of manipulation of the victim by the perv's hands)

zee-ef-ex

Thursday, July 5th 2001 - 09:15:10 PM
Name: Nightrider
E-mail address: goldencage@gmx.de
Comments:HI, last year I bought a zfx vid in Sydney, and I am really enthuastic about this stuff. I am german, so please excuse any mistakes in writing. Now I am living in Ireland, does someone know if I can get zfx vids here? Maybe its an idea to start a distibution for europe from here, but I don't know about the legal situation here. Are there possibilities to order thre vids by mail order? O.K. I hope that zfx will live forever!!! A great fan Nightrider
Friday, July 6th 2001 - 12:51:13 PM
Name: Bugin2thelight
Comments:Hey all, I've only posted here a couple of times. I had a quick question to ask of ye. After seeing the great pics Hank had in the old Yahoo! Club, I'm very intrigued by "The Reporter," and am thinking about buying it. Is there anything you guys can tell me about the movie that I couldn't find out from Hank's pics (like, what else happens in the film, or what's the dialogue like and stuff) or the description at the gameport? If you'd be willing, that would be really, really great. I just want to make sure it's worth the price! (Though I'm sure it is!!) Thanks much, bugin.
Sunday, July 8th 2001 - 12:07:05 PM
Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html
Comments:Bugin: I never saw Hanks's pics from "The Reporter", (Note to Hank: that would be a good series to resurrect for the new site) but I've seen the tape and it's seriously great stuff! You've got the babelicious Monica Moore nude and screaming her pretty fool head off, ZFX's best villain Brian Dunhill as the chief interrogator in the action, and even Chandra Sweet along for the ride to taunt her as she gets tortured. And you really need to see the even-better sequel, "Gangstarr", which also features a scene with Lisa Kinkaid. The story and the dialogue are primo, and both these tapes are good examples of the kind of tape that ZFX does best. Highly recommended.
Sunday, July 8th 2001 - 06:29:10 PM
Name: Hank
Homepage URL: http://clubs.lycos.com/AUTH/live/directory/communityhome.asp?cg=tupk3g95cnah3e2k0188nkppm4&VIPACT=1
Comments:The "Reporter" will get reposted to the new club in the near future.I thiNk I will go back & re-cap both of the "Reporter" flicks As Ralphus says they are worth the price just for Monica alone.You can't go wrong.The link for the club is above."Hank"
Sunday, July 8th 2001 - 08:15:54 PM
Name: g-in-o
E-mail address: g_in_o62@hotmail.com
Comments:BBFan, Re:crotch rope in Phallicide; For my own tastes, I usually prefer the victim stripped fully naked. Nothing illustrates the contrast between pre and post capture better. Crotch ropes at times run the danger of being a very small tight bikini bottom. If that is the case, in Phallicide, it is so small and so tight that it overules the above concern. Earlier posts might have discussed this before, as well as the "shaved vs neatly trimmed" debate which might be revisited in light of Talia's attributes.

Rick: "Dark Offering" ? Inquiring minds want to know!

Hank: Signed up for both of your new clubs. Looks like you are up to 200 members and growing. Congrats! Amazing considering how Yahoo just pulled the plug without giving members time to go to plan B.

Considering the above, does anyone have a guess of how many visit Chez Gimp? There are the Usual Suspects who are often great reads, New Talent that visit time to time and the occasional return of a Classic Gimp poster. But who is out there that we do not hear from? Is there a great silent majority? Any idea of numbers Mad Dog? (BTW keep up the good fight giving the address to the ZFX actresses. It would be great to have more on site "interviews". )

Tuesday, July 10th 2001 - 03:31:41 AM
Name: BBFan
E-mail address: memfan@yahoo.com
Comments:Crotchropes have been discussed earlier on this board - My preference is crotchropes with panties, pulled so tight that you clearly see the pussylips on each side. HOMS's appraoch was very nice, because having the paties pulled up so that the bush spilled out showed how tight the rope was. After hearing reviews Phallicide, I think I will take it upon myself to view that movie. As a side note, I have ordered two classics - Doc Bondage and Total Restraint. I will be glad to give reviews if folks are interested (I think there are some folks who were not aware of ZFX when those were out).
Tuesday, July 10th 2001 - 08:19:58 AM
Name: Paul Atreides
E-mail address: starfleet001@hotmail.com
Comments:I was looking at Hank's site and came across the trailer for Drifters! How come I haven't heard anyone talk about this movie! It looks awesome!! My favorite girl Lisa is abused throughout the whole movie!! The breast bondage is awesome (from the stills on zfx's home page). I can't believe it, it looks like the perfect tape for me! I'm ordering it as soon as possible.
Thursday, July 12th 2001 - 08:19:26 PM
Name: dave
Comments:Why aren't new posts showing up?
Friday, July 13th 2001 - 03:01:16 AM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: hollywoodvampire@
Comments:What the hell is this? 1999?
Friday, July 13th 2001 - 05:09:31 PM
Name: Hank
Comments:What's with the board .We are back in 1999.Ia everone else seeing the same thing."Hank"
Friday, July 13th 2001 - 07:37:36 PM
Name: Alien8
Comments:
Hey Rick- I posted a while ago about sending special effects props (of an alien nature) to you and as it was pointed out by- (sheez- I forgot your name, sorry) -others, many a talented indivual would like to contribute effects (probably for nothing) just to get a copy of their work being used, or to hang out on the set...8D ...remember? Okay- So you also talked about the possible Problems that could arise if you were to mix Penetration & Bondage in a scene, and, I recalled pondering this same question nearly 15 years ago (when I was in High School). Just a few ideas to kick around... 1) Do a "making of" film showing "behind the scenes" shots- include full scenes of the movie being made... show before & after shots showing the state of mind of the actress, then you could add in penetration if you'd like showing the utmost care taken in the consent and safety of the actress... show the film cut together, then show the "making of" segment (hehehe - for the DVD) 2) Enlist sombody to make a life cast of your actress' mid- section so you can have penetration on the "stand in" dummy - Keep a behind the scenes clip on hand of how it was done... cut everything together... 3) ask some one to make a "penetration effect" that is over the top, so that it is impossible for someone to believe it is happening for real - heck, I came up with a way to create an illusion of a long (2' to 5') alien penis that would appear to penetrate all the way inside a real actress... without looking like it is "telescoping" (practical not digital) 4) Speaking of digital... someone could be penetrated with a CG object / then show a prop "cut off" object like the bottom half of a huge dildo placed against (not inside) your actress- kinda like you've done before with the simulated penetration - Except with a CG transition that appears more realistic... Once again - these are only suggestions - the difficult stuff I'd never have suggested if I personally couldn't do them, or others couldn't have done them... As for the props... I have been busy... I'll post here when I have some samples for you to see. Let me know if it's cool to directly Email you ... Later - Alien8
Saturday, July 14th 2001 - 12:28:52 AM
Name: Alien8
Comments:My last post didn't "post". (testing, testing, 123)
Saturday, July 14th 2001 - 06:45:46 AM
Name: MAV
Comments:NYCdom: Can't help but ask: do you live in Manhattan? If so, where do you rent ZFX from? I only found stores that sell the videos on 8th avenue. Pls let me know.
Sunday, July 15th 2001 - 08:48:25 AM
Name: MAV
Comments:I posted this question before, and I'm hopin that one of you ZFX gurus missed it last time. Thanks fer yer help. I'm lookin to get some ZFX movies that have the following type of scene. My favorite scene so far has been Monica Moore's whipping scene in The Reporter. I want to get scenes where a buxom actress like Monica, perhaps Penelope Pace, Victoria Vixxen, etc. is hung by the wrists like in The Reporter, and is shocked with the tazer. SOB4 came close with Kelly Mckay, but her arms where separated and one of her legs was stretched up. If there are no tazer scenes with actresses like that, I'd want another scene(s) where the buxom actress is flogged like in The Reporter, SOB2 (Penelope Pace) and SOB4 (Lisa Kinkaid). Thanks to anyone for their input.
Sunday, July 15th 2001 - 09:21:02 AM
Name: HOWIE
Comments:What the hell is going on here?
Sunday, July 15th 2001 - 07:05:38 PM
Name: BBFan
E-mail address: memfan@yahoo.com
Comments:What's going on with this board?
Monday, July 16th 2001 - 12:47:16 PM
Name: Iago
Comments:Okay, wassup? All I see is a 1999 archive? Did I miss something? Damn, I knew i shouldn't have watched that "Dr. Who" movie on Sci-fi...
Monday, July 16th 2001 - 11:34:06 PM
Name: MAV
Comments:NYCdom: If you happen to live in NYC, where is the place that you are able to rent ZFX movies. Please let me know.
Tuesday, July 17th 2001 - 08:37:31 PM
Name: Mad Dog
E-mail address: xezactula2@hotmail.com
Comments:Let me just start by saying the problems that we have been having lately are the result of Dreambook. They decide to update their service and it throws everything out of wack.

Also this isnt the type of fix that most of you want, because the new posts are now at the top of the page. Right now this is the best that I can do. Dreambook is changing all of their shit around, and then I have to go in and try to fix it when everything gets fucked up. Sorry that it took me so long to fix it.

Their is something else that I want to inform everybody of, I am in the process of stepping down as moderator of this board. For those who dont know I am a full time student and I work part time. I just dont have the time for this anymore. Also for me this was a little side thing, something that I never really took seriouslly. That is also why I am going to tur the reigns over to Ralphus, he has a passion for this board and the movies that I just cannot share. I think that everybody would benefit from him being in charge of this board. Besides he has been here since the begining. This is going to be a slow transition as I will always be on hand to help Ralphus as he gets used to running the board.

I want to thank all of you for being patient with me and welcoming with open arms. I enjoyed many of the conversation that we have had, even though it might sound like I was pissed off. I love opposing viewpoints and am always welcome to a new debate. But dont think that you are getting rid of me. I will continue to be a voice in the night and i will constantly voice my opinion whether you want to hear it or not.

Also if you have any questions for me go ahead and ask. Once again I would just like to say thank you.

Peace All
Mad Dog
Wednesday, July 18th 2001 - 12:25:22 PM
Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html
Comments:Bear with us, people. I know the board had seen its share of problems, especially lately when anyone who visited here experienced a bizarre time warp back to the year 1999. Even though currently the site is reading backward, with the new posts appearing at the top instead of at the bottom where they belong, at least it's back up where we can read it again. I'll talk to Mad Dog about getting that corrected soon. And he has also assured me that the older posts will soon be restored (Yeah, I know we've heard THAT before). Anyway, he was sort of in it over his head, and wasn't really able to devote his full attention to it. I at least have the passion and the desire to want to make this forum work, even if I have virtually ZERO internet or HTML skills. I'll try to learn from Mad Dog, who's sometimes a bit perplexed by the whole situation himself, so it may turn into one of those blind-leading-the-blind type of endeavors :) In the meantime, if there's ANYONE, ANYWHERE who would be willing to lend his knowledge into helping us get the site back and working again, please step forward. I could use any help I can get!

Let's get back to the whole reason this board was created. Anybody here seen the new ZFX tape? I saw it, but with the breakdown of the board, as well as other personal distractions, I haven't had a chance to write my new review yet. I'll try to get to it soon. It's just been a rough month for me.

MAV: Regarding good ZFX tapes where the victim is hung by her wrists and shocked with a tazer, I can think of a very good one right away. Try "Voodoo Dolls 2", where the lovely Ms. Lisa Kinkaid gets that treatment. It's a terrific movie anyway, as is the original. It was one of Rick's Shockwave projects, the kind that offer a more advanced storyline than some of his other tapes. And for suspended whipping with a buxom actress, it doesn't get much better, and they don't get much more busty, than "Guilty" with Penelope Pace, post-boob job, strung up and flogged silly by Masters in one of ZFX's best whipping scenes. She is really suspended for what looks like a good ten minutes, although part of that might have been clever editing. Nonetheless, she endures quite a harsh whipping while hanging from her wrists. This is clearly the number one highlight from that tape, but it's a good tape all around, and worth checking out. The sequel, "Guilty 2" gives us more of the same (See my review of that tape in the Guestbook Archives).

Let's talk it up, people. We're back. Surely you have some good comments you've been storing up during the hiatus :)

Wednesday, July 18th 2001 - 03:00:25 PM
Name: crowdow
E-mail address: crowdow at fucking yahoo.com
Comments:Hey Ralphus and Mad Dog
Good to see the page is back up. Ralphus, you can ignore my email, but I was desperate to know what was going on
Yahoo seem to have fucked up so many of the best sites (including the Interrogation Scenes story club) that I was worried they somehow had shut this down, or corrupted it.
Keep up the good work folks
crowdow
Wednesday, July 18th 2001 - 05:41:58 PM
Name: Mad Dog
E-mail address: xezactula2@hotmail.com
Comments:Well first thing first. I am not sure if I will be able to fix the posts. You guys might just have to get used to reading it at the top. I will continue to explore it and see what I can do as we transfer owernship.

The other thing is I finnally posted some of the old posts. I have May, June, July and August 2000 up. I Know, I am way behind but it is a start. Also the formatt isnt the best but the content is there. In the future the old posts will look much better.

Thats it for now. I hope everybody is still out there.

Peace All
Mad Dog
Wednesday, July 18th 2001 - 06:44:15 PM
Name: NYCDOM28
E-mail address: NYCDOM30s@aol.com
Comments:Hi MAV

Funny seeing my old posts.

There used to be a place on 40th off 6th ave. But i don't know if they rent much bondage anymore. There is another good place off 6th, i think 38th street called kinkematics.

good selection, you can watch them in a booth, but no rentals.

I miss the old ZFX release schudle

Wednesday, July 18th 2001 - 09:29:10 PM
Name: g-in-o
E-mail address: g_in_o62@hotmail.com
Comments: Good to see you all back. Much thanks to Mad Dog (for both the board and for some new "old" posts to read. Best wishes to Ralphus as he ascends the Golden Throne of Gimpdom!

Paul Atriedes re: "Drifters" The film probably merits a new look for me. After all, it does feature the ever so flogable Lisa throughout, and I am a big fan of single victim ZFX films.

That said, I've always had trouble with the sweat socks and pig-tales look she sports throughout the film. This is just my own preference, not a particularly critical observation. Still, no socks and a hairstyle ala SOB-IV and it would be right up there in my top five. For "all Lisa" films, I prefer the Voodoo Dolls, Stephanie Renford and the first Ballista movie. (2nd Ballista rates high, but it is not all Lisa.)

Wednesday, July 18th 2001 - 09:49:36 PM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywoodvampire@
Comments:Is everybody in?....Is everybody in?....The ceremony is about to begin.

And the torch is passed to Ralphus. Alright Ralphus! Even tough, by Ralphus' own addmission, his web expertise is not all it can be (as of yet) the forum is in very capable hands. Ralphus, the one stop shop of B&D info...at least ZFX. All you newbies...ask the Ralphus.

Mad Dog, thanks for keeping the forum fires going for the interim, but I guess nothing left but "Attack of the Street Pimps" for you....just kidding.

It was kinda interseting (for a short while) to read some of the older posts. 1999 turns out to be the time frame when I just discovered the forum. It's also nice to see some regulars from back then continuing to post. It seems like it was the Gimp, Ralphus, NYCDOM, Satan and maybe a few others as the regulars back then when I just found it. Nice to see NYCDOM make a return to the forum as some absence. Satan's been absent for a while now though, Oh well. But we now have Damien (in between tirades) ;)

Anyway, to bigger and better things!

Later.

Thursday, July 19th 2001 - 06:25:36 PM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywoodvampire@
Comments:Just a note on G-IN-O's last post. It seems he and I have similar tastes in that I do not care for socks either (shoes also for that matter....especially COMBAT BOOTS....sorry Rick). It seems to me that a simple compromise if incorporated would appeal to a wider audience. Start out w/shoes or socks but then at some point eliminate them during the course of the (approx. 90 min.) video. This could also work for the costume fans vs. the ones who prefer total nudity. At some point everybody gets what they like. Just my thoughts. Or does the majority prefer a theme (attire wise) from beginning to end. Any thoughts, comments?

Later.

Thursday, July 19th 2001 - 09:15:36 PM
Name: MAV
Comments:Ralphus: I havent said it yet, but thanks for making this forum happen. ZFX is da shit in bondage IMO, and its cool to have a special forum for it. Thanks for the info on my scene search BTW. NYCdom: Thanks for givin me the location. I'll have to try to check it out sometime.
Thursday, July 19th 2001 - 09:18:24 PM
Name: Marquis
Homepage URL: http://www.mdeg.com
Comments:For the extreme visit my homepage
Friday, July 20th 2001 - 03:52:50 AM
Name: SATAN
E-mail address: darklord@hades.net
Comments:Ralphus, Going back a bit, can you offer up a review of Vostock Core and/or Cold Metal. Looking for another dose of Chandra. :)
Friday, July 20th 2001 - 12:30:59 PM
Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html
Comments:Satan: As far as "Vostock Core" goes, I don't remember it being all that special. If you like Chandra, she is put through a pretty exciting scene where she and Laura Jo Dalton are tied up standing back to back and whipped. Those of you who prefer watching two girls receiving punishment at the same time might want to check this one out. Unfortunately, I don't remember the story being all that good, and I wasn't real impressed by this tape. You can probably do better.

"Cold Metal" was real good, although not especially for Chandra's footage. She is mainly hypnotized and forced to suck off a phallic machine, if I recall (don't ask; I thought it was silly). The real star in this one is Amy Van Allen, IMO. This was another sci-fi mad scientist Shockwave opus, the second in the trilogy started by "Machine Head". This was a series that actually got better as it went along, which has happened quite a few times. The finale, "Rage Against The Machine", was the clearly the best of the three. It had memorable scenes with Lisa Kinkaid tied to a rack and penetrated with a dildo, Amy hung upside-down and whipped, and, in her ZFX debut, Monica Moore (Oh yes!). I don't remember much about Chandra from this one, but it's a real good tape anyway.

Best Chandra movies, if I had to remember without checking: "War Pigs, "War Pigs 2", "Toolbox Abductions Part 2", "Whiplash 2", and of course, her masterpiece "The Cheerleaders of Perilous U.". Those are five great titles, IMO, especially if you're ordering to see the beautiful Ms. Sweet :)

Friday, July 20th 2001 - 08:31:16 PM
Name: Iago
Comments:Bad Mad Dog!

Don't even think about being bummed by what is going on with the board! It reads from the top, it reads from the bottom...Who cares? The simple fact is, IT READS. It reads because the Gimp cared enough to start it, and you cared enough to take over and keep it going. Don't worry about the little things. This board gives us a home, sort of, and I, for one, remain very thankful for your efforts. I wish you nothing but the best with your ventures, and look forward to still seeing you post here. Your views are reasoned, and your experience with Rick gives us a great insight.

Ralphus, I'm glad to see it's you taking over. Your obvious passion for ZFX and BDSM vids should make for a great continuation of the line of great hosts we've been blessed with so far. You know where to find me if I can help out. Same for you, Jazz. Best of luck, friends!

Peace Out,

Iago

Friday, July 20th 2001 - 10:04:07 PM
Name: crowdow
E-mail address: crowdow@ you know where.com
Comments:First off, continuing the ass kissing, I just wanted to echo the fact that it's so rare to find a company like ZFX, but just when everyone does come across it in their shitty little towns or wherever, it's even more amazing to come across a worldwide community of fellow fans. So, Ralphus, Mad Dog and Rick (and especially any of the ladies!!!), keep up the great work.

I just thought I'd put in my 2 cents on the costume/socks issue.

I'm a big admirer of clothing, whether skimpy/sexy or normal, that can become used in the scene, eg the stripping scenes in SOB III. I enjoyed both the (slightly absurd but sexy) bikini top, right through to the more conservative clothes that Lisa was wearing. The range of clothes tends to make the scenes more realistic.

That said, although it's not actually a turn off, I can't understand why a girl would be left with socks or shoes on only - this isn't only a problem with combat boots, but with any sorts of shoes. I guess the fact I'm not a foot person at all means I don't get the same sort of kick wondering what's under a pair of sneakers than I do wondering what is behind a solicitor's shirt.

All things considered, though, I know it's ridiculous to comment about problems with clothing in ZFX films, seeing as we should just be happy these films exist at all, but I thought it would be interesting to get some other opinions on this. (And if this has been covered in the past, I apologise).

crowdow
Saturday, July 21st 2001 - 01:50:53 AM
Name: MAV
Comments:NYCdom: I was around 40th & 6th yesterday, and only found 1 store that sold 3 ZFX tapes, but their booths only showed other stuff. This place was on 39th off of 6th posing as a sports tapes store. Pls let me know if you can give me a more exact location of the kinkematics place, b/c I looked on 38th through 40th and found nuthin. Thanks.
Sunday, July 22nd 2001 - 06:36:28 AM
Name: Hank
Homepage URL: http://clubs.lycos.com/auth/live/Directory/PhotoAlbums.asp?CG=tupk3g95cnah3e2k0188nkppm4
Comments:Good luck Ralphus.Good to see the board working now.The "ZFX Vidcaps " club is growing.It now has more caps up than the old club.Use the link above."The Reporter" is there.Later, "Hank"
Sunday, July 22nd 2001 - 07:13:45 PM
Name: Iago
Comments:Crowdow, ass-kissing would imply that we had something to gain by thanking these folks for their efforts. Aside from his help in guiding my purchasing with his well-done reviews, and his rampant positive attitude, Ralphus doesn't give me anything. Mad Dog has been a great host, very neutral and informative, but it's not like he sends me glossy photos of the models or anything. I can't speak for anyone else, but I really do appreciate all the (unpaid!) work these guys do for us. I also appreciate Rick posting here. I love the idea that we might be able to provide ideas or feedback that might help him know even better what we want. He also gets to tell us what was on his mind when he made this vids, which makes them even more fun to watch. Again, it's not like I get a discount on his tapes or anything. What any of these guys thinks of any of us doesn't matter in any way, shape or form. Not too harp, but please don't underestimate our, or more specifically my, good will towards these guys. Thanks.

Onto more engaging stuff! I agree about the value of clothing! That tiny yellow outfit Christina was wearing in SOB3 was very sexy on her! I also liked the costume choices for 666. Both Kim and Christina were very sexy in that video, and rick used Christina's costumes to great advantage. I thought the same thing about Ballista 2. Both Lisa and the new girl (sorry, forgot her name) looked great in their outfits, for however a brief time they were in them. Jaqcline (sp) in Forced Entry had the same thing going. I'm glad to see Rick exploring more of that. his early vids had lots of hot costumes, but he seemed to get away from it for a few years. It's good to see it coming around again. I like beautiful nude women as well, but there's something to be said for leading up to it. This is fantasy, after all. Rick has his own dark world, like a distorted mirror of ours, and I personally like it when he goes all out with the looks and sexuality of his models.

Peace,

Iago

Sunday, July 22nd 2001 - 11:19:59 PM
Name: NYCDOM28
Comments:MAV

You need to go down further i think its 36, it's right off 6av, between 6 and 5, closer to 6 walk down 6 and you should see it, there is a pizza place on the corner.

so try 36, but it could be 37.

Monday, July 23rd 2001 - 08:13:13 PM
Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html
Comments:RALPHUS' ZFX REVIEW: "PHALLICIDE"

ZFX's latest release in 2001 is a video called "Phallicide", which sets up its one threadbare story in the first few minutes, then follows it up with a series of bondage and torture scenes until the story kicks in again during the last few minutes.

As the story begins, a young reporter is traveling out to an abandoned building to interview a serial rapist/killer, dubbed the "Phallic Killer" for his trademark of leaving a phallic object lodged in the asses of all his victims, those being pretty, young women. Seeing that the reporter is herself a pretty, young woman, and that the killer has requested she come alone, and wear something sexy, it doesn't take a great guessing game to figure out what's going to happen to her once she reaches that building.

The reporter is played by ZFX newcomer Talia Winter, a pigtailed brunette with a nice body, and the Phallic Killer is Travis Lee, veteran of several fine ZFX features, most notably as Otis in the "Night Prowler" series. Here he is totally unrecognizable in a rubber Halloween mask, and says not a single word throughout the entire video. The only way I could tell it was him? His name was in the credits.

Anyway, Talia is predictably grabbed by Lee (Stupid bitch! What did she think would happen?), who sneaks up from behind to slap on the handcuffs, then gags her with a stocking that he also wraps around her neck to choke her into submission. He pulls up her top and fondles the now unconscious girl before preparing for the good stuff.

Talia awakens to find herself standing with her wrists tied over her head to the ceiling, still cleave-gagged with the stocking. She sees Lee standing nearby, rubbing his own crotch area in anticipation. He approaches her with a knife, which he uses to cut open her bra, while she cries in muffled protest. Slowly stripping, slapping and fondling the girl, he has some fun smacking her ass while she helplessly hangs like a piece of meat. Then he decides to torture her by applying clothespins to each of her nipples, and some to her pussy lips, as well. As is his fashion, ZFX director Rick Masters shoots the action from several different angles, giving us a voyeuristic thrill.

The next scene has Talia tied in a new way, with her wrists now behind her but still tied to the ceiling, and the clothespins still in place on her nipples. A rope has been pulled up between her pussy lips and tied tightly at her waist. Lee replaces the thin and ineffective stocking gag with a red ballgag, and now takes a whip and goes to work on her. With her panties pulled down around her ankles, she can only take baby steps to avoid the cracks of the whip, as Lee thoroughly lashes every part of her body. The clothespins are removed, but only so he can now whip away at her sore nipples, as she reacts with several painful screams. It's a typically harsh and brutal whipping scene, which ZFX has long since perfected.

Next, Lee has Talia tied standing to a metal frame, still ballgagged, and with her legs spread apart, her wrists tied off to each side. Lee approaches with a battery charger, using the two clamps to apply several shocks onto her bare nipples and pussy. It's a fun scene, and Talia's a good screamer. Lee then stops to finger her pussy, making it nice and moist, then gives her an extra long jolt onto this most sensitive area. Pussy juice must make a good conductant :)

The following scene has Talia tied sitting against a wall; her legs are opened up embarrassing wide and tied high off to each side. A vibrating egg has been taped onto her clit, tantalizing her, but her hands are also tied out above her. Clothespins once again adorn her nipples, adding to her discomfort. This time, she is ungagged. When she sees Lee, she cries out, "Please don't do this to me! I only wanted to interview you!" He shuts her up by stuffing a dildo down her throat and making her suck it; I would have preferred seeing her mouth put to better use, but oh well. Never hurts to practice. Finished with her mouth, he improves her looks by wadding her panties into her mouth and taping it over with several strips of red tape. But he's not finished using the dildo! He jams it into her wide open pussy and works it around, finally leaving Talia with the dildo taped inside her pussy, with the vibrator still buzzing away, leaving her helplessly aroused.

Afterward, Talia is then tied on her back to a large wooden platform on the floor. Her wrists and ankles are spread wide, and a black tape gag now seals her lips. She can only wail away when she sees Lee enter the room carrying two black candles. Drop by drop, he burns her with the hot liquid wax of the candles, starting with her chest, then working his way down to her pussy. She screams and writhes in pain as Lee covers her body with hot wax, a very intense scene.

Lee has Talia bound to the same platform in the following scene, but this time the wax droplets are gone and she is tied on her knees, with ropes around her ankles and her wrists loosely tied in front of her. The thin stocking gag is back, and her ass is now dirty and sticking out. Lee comes up from behind her, with a hard-on in his hand, ready to use her. He rapes her from behind in a noisy scene, simulated as always but still a nice effort, complete with the cum shot on her ass.

Now spent, Lee takes a break and rests over against the wall. What is it they say about guys going to sleep right after they cum? Bad call on this one. Talia takes this opportunity to free herself from the ropes while he snoozes, then takes Lee's knife and, in her best Lorena Bobbitt mode, slices off Lee's pecker with it. She runs off while he collapses in a bloody mess. He dies, she becomes a best-selling author, and the viewer races to the toilet to get sick after watching that ending :)

"Phallicide" is good minor league ZFX; with just one victim and a running time well below an hour, it's not as ambitious as other previous projects. Its plot begins as another variation of the earlier, better "Guilty", but pretty much abandons its attempt at storytelling once Talia gets grabbed. From then until its nasty ending, it's a series of well-directed setpieces, nicely acted by both performers, but could have used some good threatening dialogue to give it some edge. Talia Winter is pretty and plays her victim role well, but I would definitely lose the pigtails (That's my opinion, but then it's my review). "Phallicide" has most of what you would expect from ZFX, and it's a formula that works once again in this tape. My grade: B-

Tuesday, July 24th 2001 - 07:16:45 PM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: hollywoodvamp1re@juno.com
Comments:Ralphus, Cool! I've been waiting for some feedback on the new vid. Sounds pretty good but am kinda surprized at the shorter lenght of the video since most of the one's I've seen have been just about feature lenght.

Looks like the transitions going well. I kinda expected a little more as far as a farewell from Mad Dog though, considering how outspoken he was. Although him saying "This is Mad Dog and this is my back" was a nice touch ;)

Later.

Tuesday, July 24th 2001 - 09:36:06 PM
Name: MadDog
E-mail address: xezactula2@hotmail.com
Comments:AvF

??????????????????? I am sorry but I never remember saying that. As far as me going gently into that good night, HAH!! fat chance. I am always up for a good debate. Although I am pretty busy with school right now, I can still find time to throw my two cents around. You guys here on the board just need to get more threads going. Come on Challenge me, Take advantage of my experiance.

Phallicide- This is one that I worked on back in the shadows. Talia Winter is a beautiful women and a delight to work with. If I was you guys I would check out the movie just to see her and then bug the shit out of Rick to get her into another one.

Well thats it for now. I am always lurking in the shadows so beware.

Peace All
Mad Dog
Thursday, July 26th 2001 - 08:40:20 AM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywoodvamp1re@
Comments:Mad Dog, Just my warped sense of humor.....in reference to a current TV commercial (I take it you haven't seen it) where a track and field athlete tries to psyhc (OK sue me...I can't spell psyhc...you know what I mean) out his opposition by continually repeating "This is my back" (in that's all you're gonna see when he races). Oh, did I mention its the special olympics. Just my demented sense of humor....sorry;) No really, we love the inside info and points of view. Hope we'll still see your ugly signature here alot in the future.

As for threads...how 'bout this one. Which mainstream movie or scene remake would you like to see remade ZFX style? There are plenty that come to mind but for me there's one scene in particular that I'd like to see. From the old "Avengers" series where Emma Peel is tied to a see-saw like device at the edge of a lake (or something like that...it's been so damn long since I've seen it that I hardley even remember it). She'd be tipped so her head would end up under the edge of the water and then lifted up again for information(?). This would be repeated with each subsequent dunking lasting longer than the next. What made it a hot scene was the struggling and watching her rib cage and torso arch and expand as she tried to hold her breath. It was pretty hot in leather (even though I'm not into leather) and always thought how hot a scene it could be done nude.

Another one that comes to mind is from the first Halloween. Where P.J. Soles gets strangled. A remaked version could be hot where after shes unconscious the psyhco ties her up and goes to town on her before moving on to his next victim. That's what always got me...there's this great looking naked girl and limp dick killer dosen't even get the slightest urge to do her before doing her in. Oh well, that's Hollywood I guess.

Later.

Thursday, July 26th 2001 - 06:00:41 PM
Name: crowdow
E-mail address: ... @yahoo.com
Comments:Great topic - mainstream movies done ZFX style!

The first one that comes to mind is the infamous interrogation scene from Basic Instinct, where the police don't take any shit from the Sharon Stone character. Particularly without any underwear on, this could be quite a hot scene (maybe seeing Rick vs Kelly McKay?).

The opening 'phonecall' scene from 'Scream' would be quite a bit of fun - I was really hoping for something along the ZFX lines when I watched the actual movie, and was a fair bit disappointed that it didn't work out that way.

I know there are more, but I have to run. Keep them coming, folks!

Crowdow

Thursday, July 26th 2001 - 11:12:48 PM
Name: Iago
Comments:AvF

Pieces of film I'd like to see in ZFX...Well, it'd be nice if Rick could integrate more of the anime-style monster rape stuff. Also, the opening scene from Slave Girls from beyond Infinity (I think), the scene with the Dunwich Horror-style worm thing raping the girl. I realize these gizmos are expensive, tho, so don't worry much about it.

Also, one thing Rick has done really well in a few vids was a nasty combination of physical and psychological torture that slowly broke down the victim over the course of the vid. I think that probably takes a certain type of model, so it might not be something easily done.

Peace,

Iago

Thursday, July 26th 2001 - 11:16:30 PM
Name: Rick
E-mail address: zfx4u@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://www.zfxshockwavevideo.com
Comments:Hello to all!

Glad the board has been straightened out(well sort of), was getting worried that dreambook had befallen the same fate as Yahoo...BTW, I have not yet been able to gain access to Hanks new site, still working on it, for some reason my browser does not seem compatible with Lycos(yes I have my cookie set to accept and I have every browser I have, not just AOL buggy proprietary version of IE)still no dice. Any hints would be helpful.

Sorry to see our beloved Mad Dog...ok beloved isnt really what I was looking for....anyway you get the idea, esteemed, there we go, our esteemed Mad Dog heading off for the sunset, but I have every confidence that Ralphus will do an excellent job running the site! Just want to give a shout out to the Gimp for establishing this site, and to the people who have stepped up to do the thankless(and payless) job of taking care of it. Your efforts are greatly appreciated!

Shameless promotional plugging: Just to let you know, Dark Offering will be out on or before 8/15/01. The story centers around a Satanic cult and their efforts to secure a virgin sacrifice for some sort of prophesied event which they prepare for by torturing and violating said virginal sacrifice. The movie stars Suzy Sexton, another new face. She is a natural blonde, shaved, early 20s and absolutely gorgeous, large (not huge though) very firm natural breasts. This young lady is very sexy, her reactions and sounds are very erotic. Expect to see abduction, gang groping, girl held down by group while ritually grudge fucked, whipping, waxing suspention, clothes pins, dildos and a rather unusual fx scene. There is also a short vingette at the beginning of the show with Lisa Kinkaid, and Bridgette Bayonne, which help the head Satan worshiper coax himself to orgasm to make his, uh, prophecy. If all this sounds a bit like 666 and 6662, its somewhat similar, but if you enjoyed those shows, youll likely enjoy this one as well, it has a similar feel.

Ralphus: Thanks for the review, I agree with you, Phallicide is light on story, its really more of a premise to place the lovely Ms Winter in the clutches the Phallic Killer, but I think it delivers alot of content, i.e. great scenes, with good visuals. The dialog of the killer would have made it better. Generally though, I agree with the review. I dunno if anyone noticed this, but in the beginning shots, we were in the middle of a raging snow storm. The exterior shots where done in about -10 weather. I was using a new camera, and it really perfomed admirably under some very adverse conditions. BTW, you will likely be seeing more of Ms. Winter in the future, possible shot down here.

Mainstream stuff: One movie that I have seen that had a very ZFXesque scene in it(try to say that 3 times fast) was Strange Days. There is a scene, done in a POV shot, where a dude breaks into an apartment and basically rapes and strangles a very hot chick in her bathroom. The premise of the movie is in the near future( believe its set at the millennial change) people are able to record their experiences, with all the visceral pleasure or pain that go with them. A blackmarket for underground snuff stuff emerges yada yada yada....anyway the movie has some good scenes.

Iago: I got big plans for something new right up your alley this fall(shoot not release then), waiting for the weather to cool off so we can start constructing sets. In the mean time, dont lose hope for tentacles, Ballista 3 is coming and I think you will find much of it to your liking=) Probably looking for a October or November release, its next on the agenda.

Ok, thats it for now, thanks to all who read here, watch the shows, and contribute to this forum!

Rick

Friday, July 27th 2001 - 09:51:32 AM
Name: g-in-o
E-mail address: g_in_o62@hotmail.com
Comments:Rick- Thanks for the update! Looking forward to "Dark Offering" Always like a sacraficial motif!

Iago- The worm scene you mention at the begining of "Slave Girls From..." might be at the begining of another movie of similar ilk (which I can't remember the name of). If it is the one I'm thinking of, it is actually an excerpt of a longer scene from "Galaxy of Terror" that was cut into the opening credits. "Galaxy of Terror" has a website devoted to it and other alien sex delights. I think it is www.galaxy_of_terror.com. Anyway, you probably allready knew all this, (I'd bet money on it!) but if you did not, both the movie and the site are worth looking into. (G.O.T. fans, imagine hitting the worm rape scene on HBO years ago by accident! I thought it was just going to be another low end science fiction flick...)

Hollywood Vampire- Good thread. There's plenty movies I would like to see ZXFed. From near misses ("Caged Women- Hell Mountain" which set up so well, only to fail to deliver) to scenes that were great but too short (Kathy Shower's ordeal in "The Furthur Adventures of Tennesee Buck"). Maybe this is a bit outside the ZFX genre but I wouldn't mind it at all if someone bankrolled a Rick Masters production of "The Story of O" starring Kelly McKay as O. I can imagine it delivering a lot more than the 1975 version.

My favorite though would be a reworking of "A Man Called Horse" ("A Woman Called Horse?") with no scrimping on the torture scenes. (ok, I would probably change the "hanging by hooks" scene to something involving being suspended by chords wrapped tightly around the heroines breasts.) I'm sure there are plenty of savage methods that could be explored in a full length feature film.

Friday, July 27th 2001 - 06:14:50 PM
Name: Sebastian
E-mail address: enext@hotmail.com
Comments:The Ballista follow up was incredible! Newcomer Barbara is terrific! She's so cute and beautiful! Hope to see her again soon! Rick,keep up the good work.
Saturday, July 28th 2001 - 12:39:11 AM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: hollywoodvamp1re@
Comments:Ballista III with tentacles ? At least that's the message I got. If so, should make Iago happy. I hope Lisa will reprise her role in it and have all kind of nasty things in store for her. I remember back to a segment of one of her interviews where she mentioned she prefers hanging by the ankles as opposed to her wrists since her ankles are stronger. Always love to see her upside down! Some forced oral while hanging by her ankles would be great. Maybe a total face coating facial from some animated worm like creature as a seed for thought. Anyway never saw the first one but loved part II. If continuing in the same line should be a great offering also.

"Strange Days". Very interesting flick mentioned by Rick. Brigett Bako plays the victim and is one of my favorites (She was the lead in the original movie, not the series, of "Red Shoe Diaries". Shes also got a pretty good rape scene in a movie called "Dark Tide" or "Night Tide" or something like that where after a long chase scene through the woods she gets caught and tied to a chain link fence before getting raped. I've always liked the idea of the metal fence since it would be outdoors for one and second with all the loops you can tie the victim spread almost anyway you like.

Crowdog, I know what you mean about the opening scene in "Scream". It had such potential, especially since she was found tied outdside (if I remember right...it's been a long time). Don't care for Drew Barrymore but the scene could have been a winner given the what if's. That's what I mean about Hollywood. The movie as it turns out is about a some college aged guys doing the deeds. They are not psyhco's, in essence they're kids preforming fatal pranks. And at that age their hormones should be running wild. But are there any thoughts about sexually using their would be victims?.....Noooo. Bunch of limp dicks!

Did anybody see the last episde of "Fear Factor"? There was and upsidedown underwater dunking test that reminded me somewhat of Lisa's scene in SOB5. With all the offerings to get Rick props and stuff it would be great if someone could get him a plexiglass dunking booth. How hot a scene it could be to see Lisa's wet body in it's entirety struggling in such a booth. The booth would have to be narrower than the one used for "Fear Factor" as the last few contestants cheated by curling up as not to be inverted to extend their breath. Maybe a story line about auditioning for a magician's assistant but when the applicants arrive the person who placed the add has met with demise at the hands of the person now assuming the magicians identity for his own sadistic sexual pleasure. Just some more seeds.

Later

Saturday, July 28th 2001 - 11:07:57 AM
Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html
Comments:AvF: Good call on remembering "Dark Tide" to go along with "Strange Days". Brigitte Bako instantly jumped to cult actress status in my book after appearing in both of those brutal scenes. She actually got raped twice in "Dark Tide", and the scene in "Strange Days" was about as nasty as I've seen in a major Hollywood production. She also got zapped a couple of times with a stun gun (Excellent!) before geing tied up and raped, and you even saw her bare pussy during the rape scene, another Hollywood rarity, Sharon Stone aside. And the ironic thing about "Strange Days"? It was directed by a woman! Figure that one out.

As for "Scream", you have a memory for movies that involves wishful thinking, I'm afraid. Yes, there was a bondage scene in the opening part of that movie, but it was a GUY who got bound and gagged! Ugh! The blame for this one has to go to Kevin Williamson, the openly gay screenwriter of the first two "Scream" movies. He's also the sadist who ruined my chances of ever wanting to see "Teaching Mrs. Tingle". In that one, he cast two gorgeous girls, one of them the ever-cute Katie Holmes, and who got the bondage scene in that movie? The wrinkled, grey-haired, 60-year old bag playing the teacher! Blasphemy! Nothing against gay people in general, but they just don't understand...

Saturday, July 28th 2001 - 10:05:54 PM
Name: crowdow
E-mail address: ... @yahoo.com
Comments:Thanks Ralphus - I'd managed to build up a fantasy of what happened at the beginning of Scream, and now you've gone and blown it ;-). From memory it went down hill from there.

There was a strange movie a few years ago called Jawbreaker which was about a group of teenage girls who kidnap their friend on her birthday and end up killing her by choking her on an oversized candy. It sounds way better than it actually was, and it could definitely have been improved by Rick, Mad Dog, Lisa etc.! The 'capture' scene was not too bad, getting the victim out of bed and throwing her in the back of a car, but everything else about the film was extremely lame

There must be more films out there that would have been improved by some (logical ... at least to us) bondage/torture scenes - any ideas?

crowdow

Sunday, July 29th 2001 - 02:00:47 AM
Name: MAV
Comments:Just got a copy of Highway to Hell, and damn, I didn't know Alison Parish was such a hot hardbody. Holly Weston was also good getting electrocuted on the bed while spreadeagled. Previews after the end of the flick led me to some questions that I hope the forum could answer: -Who is the brunette actress in "Jennifer's Nightmares" that is shown strung up by the wrists, and what happens to her for how long while she's tied up in this position? -It appeared that Victoria Vixxen was strung up by the wrists in the "Meanstreak" preview. How long is she tied up like this and what happens to her? I was kinda disappointed she didn't get enough screentime in "Highway to Hell". Thanks, and Rick, is there any chance of getting Monica Moore back for some more flicks? I think I sound like a broken record when I say my favorite ZFX scenes are her scenes in "The Reporter".
Sunday, July 29th 2001 - 03:22:15 PM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywoodvamp1re@
Comments:Ralphus-Wow...I don't even remember a guy tied up in Scream. I told you I have no memory. Poor memory or not, wasn't Drew Barymore found by her parents tied to a tree. If not I need to get a hold of some Alzhimer medication fast!

Isolation can be an interseting setup also, such as "Dead Calm" with Nicole Kidman. A ZFX version could have soo many possibilties. Taken, bound, ravaged, escape....but no where to go. Fight back, struggle, taken again (different manner. original could be by surprize followed by a maybe a strangulation to helplessness for the second, and so on)ravaged again, etc.,etc.... Would really like to see Rick explore maybe a shipwreck theme sometime where things of similar nature could happen.

Another movie that REALLY could have used to be ZFXified was one in which Jessica Alba (dosen't she kinda of remind you of a young Lisa Kinkade....younger I shoud say, so Lisa won't get pissed.) stars in called "Paranoid". She spends a good portion of the movie handcuffed to a bed but nothing much happens. The only couple of scenes of note are one in which she gets tormented with a dry cleaning bag held over her face and another where she's struggling as she tries to reach out with her foot to get to her cell phone. I've always liked it when the victim has an opportunity by herself to try and free herself somehow, such as try and open a door while tied or knock the phone off the hook and call while bound and gagged. It adds for some drama I guess since the efforts are (or should) never be successful.

Speaking of Lisa, will she be gacing us with her presence here on the forum soon? Also I think(?) I remember a question being asked of her concerning her getting her own computer and settting up a web page. Any feedback on that anyone (Rick, Mad Dog)?

Later.

Sunday, July 29th 2001 - 07:56:16 PM
Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywwodvamp1re@
Comments:OK so I'm too lazy to proof read my entries before posting....you all know what I mean.

Later.

Sunday, July 29th 2001 - 08:00:25 PM
Name: g-in-o
E-mail address: g_in_o62@hotmail.com
Comments:MAV, If you liked "Highway to Hell" check out "Pretty Tied Up" which rates very high amoung the Alison Parish films. Includes all to rare outdoor footage where she is hosed down tied to a fence. Very nice.

AvF (sorry about getting the name wrong last time), I agree, I can't watch "Dark Angel" without thinking of Lisa, clothespins and a belt. Not that that is such a bad thing.

While reading some of the new archived posts, I came across a thread mentioning good scenes in books ("Lets Go Play at the Adams") and how some of those scenes were the first B&D goods that were availiable (the Conan book, "Sword of Skelos" ah yes, I remember it well). Anyone recomend any good scenes in books?

I thought I would bring up one and perhaps get some help from this esteemed panel. The first bondage book I ever got ahold of was a surprisingly well written porn paperback called "Forced to Submit". It was old (late 60's early 70's?) when I filched it from a friends fathers stash in his garage. It told the story of a woman (Sonia) imprisoned by the Nazis. Flogging, rape, ice cold showers, an electric prod up the ass leading to unwanted orgasms, there was plenty there to get into in a SOB-IV sort of way. Anyone else read this book? Remember its author's name (which might help in a search), have one they would like to sell for a generous amount of money? Any good sources for old paperback bondage porn? Its pretty much like looking for a needle in a haystack, but what heck, if anyone knows this would be the group to ask.

Monday, July 30th 2001 - 08:07:22 PM
Name: tom
E-mail address: naked2010@yahoo.com
Comments:does anybody know where i get zfx films in germany?
Tuesday, July 31st 2001 - 02:45:38 AM
Name: pkc
E-mail address: pkccc@aol.com
Comments:I read this great forun all the time and have watched every zfx video ever made. The stuff is by far the best, nobody comes close. My ultimate dream come true would be for a zfx video take off on the movie "last house on the left". It contains some of the things that I wish Rick would incorporate in his films. IE: The kidnap, carry to a trunk in a car, driven to the forest, led into it bound, forced to undress to panties under threat of harm to the other girl, forced lesbianism. Then rick could change the rest of the story and use the trees to tie, whip and torture the two. The psycholigical duress and the girls faces and reactions are great. Plus there is something about being naked outdoors and having or forced to undress one self. Just some of my ideas.
Tuesday, July 31st 2001 - 06:38:05 PM
Name: zee-ef-ex
Comments:Okay this is from years ago and I can't remember with great detail, but there was a remake of Flash Gordon (also called Flash Gordon? or Flesh Gordon?) where a beautiful girl is tied face down in some lycra bathing suit type of outfit, and there is a reference made by the villain to the torture of her various orifices by the introduction under her skin tight suit of some alien worms from the Planet (Whatever). Does anybody remember this obscure movie/scene? Would be nice to see that ZFX-ified.

zee-ef-ex

Tuesday, July 31st 2001 - 09:54:58 PM




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