I think both sides in this discussion would be better served if Rick would focus his time, efforts, and money into making about one pretty good sci-fi adult film a year. Personally, as someone who likes the adult sci-fi stuff, I would rather see higher quality and lower quantity, if it has to come to that. Supporters of the more standard torture films seem to prefer quantity more (not saying quality isn't important!), so focusing more time on one "Shockwave" film per year would allow for more "ZFX" films to be made, instead of trying to put out two or more "Shockwave" films every year. (Especially if he reliable assistants to help.)

Its funny in a way that we're having this discussion. Both the Shockwave and ZFX films involve domination fantasies, so they have their similarities. But I'm not certain at how strong the "cross-over" viewing actually is. Both groups seem to have only a luke-warm interest in the other aspect, so my question to everyone here is: Would it be better or worse if Rick seperated the content of Shockwave and ZFX films even further? That is, make a more straight-forward sci-fi/horror/adult film on the one hand without any (or very little) torture elements, while making the torture films without any kind of supernatural or sci-fi elements? Would seperating the two halves weaken the whole? Or would it allow both to have larger viewing audiences on their own merits? Finally, I think he should add a third element, something kind of in-between the two, with the "superheroine demise" type of movies like Ballista. That seems to be a pretty popular genre, particularly on the Internet. Just curious.

SICKO: I like your cow-milking idea! Sounds straight out of Dolcett; in fact I have a Dolcett drawing that shows that exact thing. Of course, we're moving a bit more into the fantasy camp with this, but what an intriquing idea! Hey, in the movie "Doer", Rick had a scene where supposedly 3 or 4 guys cummed into an enema bag, which was then force- fed to Penelope Pace, except the amount of cum the guys produced was enormous! I mean, you could save up your cum for a year and not have this much goo that was being forced down her throat! Not at all realistic, but still a fun scene. I think it would be cool to similarly attempt to go over the top with the breast-milking idea; at least it would be something interesting and new.

I think Rick will probably have to draw the line when it comes to roasting his victims on a spit, however. Darn it!

Been awhile since I posted but couldn't resist the "vote". Mark me down in the Reality side, even if Rick does have a $1 million budget. One problem I've had with ZFX in the past is that when Rick gets a new toy/effect, he tends to ride it into the ground.

I think if most of us are honest, we enjoy his films due to some repressed fantasy we'd never live out. I don't know about you, but I find it very hard to identify with a giant spider! I've been compared to an octopus at times, but never a spider! When Rick was releasing numerous tapes during a year I didn't mind a few sci-fi types. In fact I actually liked the plant rapes and some other scenes. But the constant interjection of androids, giant spiders, etc just doesn't do it for me.

I'd much rather see an old fashioned abduction, entrapment, etc. A little Black Magic thrown in isn't bad, but I'm afraid Rick is heading to a title something like "Sex Slaves of Roswell".

To a different topic. A while back there was a discussion on inverted suspension dunking. I just came across a free site that has a series of stills of just this subject. Check out

http://clubs.excite.com/comm/area/pw/photo/main.asp ? cid=209561&aid=21&view=picture&ttid=10&poid=6370397

It' s not a bad little series.

Anyway, my best to all.

Having read all along, I have a few things to say, and apologize in advance if this gets long.

1. Rick does have some competition. Don't mean to break the spirit of the thing, but in the dual isolation of no new releases and Europe, I have checked out some of it. Insex really is doing some very good things -- including spit roasting its girls. Of course, it is mostly on the net right now, but there are two films out. The girls are, for most part, pretty damn hot, and the bondage is pretty damn extreme. Includes mouth spreaders, dildo gags, penetration in all three holes (though only with dildos), and a lot more. Real breasts, but tattoos and piercings too. I do recommend.

2. Sign me up in the reality camp as well. Couldn't agree more that "if Rick had $1 million," I'd rather see more babes, more flicks, and then, and only then, maybe better sets and finally better special effects. 3. I do agree that ZFX is showing signs of strain and decline. The movies are beginning to merge together. It is hard, I know, to keep the edge in any art form and keep creating new stuff. I do think though, that some new blood and perhaps pushing the envelope a bit more on the real bondage stuff instead of the special effects would help. Hey, the milking machine -- as someone pointed out -- is hardly new (I saw it in Stanton too), but let's give it a try. Something's gotta give here. 4. I do hope, Rick, that the new flicks come soon, and I am still looking forward. But, the market does move forward. Bis bald, and nicht viel mehr.

Someone asked awhile back why anyone would like watching a spider doing a woman. Well, I don't know if its a spider specifically that you should ask about. "Monster" would be a better all-purpose word. Whatever form the monster takes, it represents a kind of primeval force. Like Roger Corman has always said, "the monster wants to kill all the men and rape all the women." It "anti-civilization" I suppose.

From my experience of running a website featuring these strange sci-fi films (including some of the Shockwave ones) the attraction seems to be:

1) Dominance 2) No restraints (on behavior, not physical restraints) 3) Depersonalizes the violence a little 4) Simple vicarious thrill

I think its number 3 that seperates the "Shockwave" and "ZFX" fans the most. The sci-fi fans tend to not like the BDSM angle as much -- having some kind of monster makes violence easier to accept, instead of actually watching one person do it to another. It seems from reading ZFX fan's responses that they can identify much easier if there's another person inflicting the pain.

Of course, those aren't hard rules. There'll always be people who can and do like both.

I agree with Mad Dog--how many times can you see the same vid, i.e., people abduct girl/people torture gilr??? At a certain point things just become infantile and ZFX becomes the McDonald's of fetish flicks.

In the meantime I think Rick should sign his soul over to the Yakuza in exchange for: increased budgets, access to arcane Eastern torture secrets and nubile young Japanese bondagettes, plus a 401(k) plan.

I don’t think it would necessarily be such a bad thing if ZFX did become the “McDonalds of fetish flicks” as Sardu aptly described it, as long as ZFX continued turning out a tasty product. McDonalds has certainly made a fortune by mass-producing a good product, and I think it might be great if ZFX did the same. Just imagine what they could do with all that money – all those beautiful young models and actresses just waiting to be ravaged and defiled! To help ZFX increase their profit, I hope fans will buy videos from the official ZFX site as encouraged by Rick. If ZFX decides to take the “McDonalds” route, I anticipate they would benefit greatly by hiring a production crew to increase efficiency and perhaps even video quality under Rick’s close supervision.

On the subject of Insex, I just wanted to agree with the Professor and Per that Insex is one of the hottest bondage sites on the web and worth checking out even if they did recently increase their membership fee to $35 per month. (In case anybody’s interested, other favorite sites of mine include Dan-Hawke, Erotic Punishment, Hogtied, and Spider’s Web which all feature bondage and torture of attractive young women). Insex specializes in the kind of things ZFX fans love to see, and they really do a great job. They are also a very friendly group and will gladly correspond with you by email. They also take suggestions. I would also highly recommend their live shows, particularly for those with high-speed Internet connections. Of course, such shows will be even better as technology advances, but Insex is on the leading edge right now. I wish that ZFX would consider opening a similar pay site on the Web, which would also feature live bondage and torture shows as well as high-resolution images of the beautiful ZFX girls in bondage. This could potentially be a great money-making venture for them. I’m sure that many people would be more than happy to join a ZFX pay site particularly knowing that their membership fees were helping to fund more thrilling ZFX videos. Also on the pay site, images of prospective actresses being considered for roles in ZFX films could be displayed, and members of the site could vote on those girls that appealed to them the most. Furthermore, ZFX could advertise for girls interested in starring in their videos. Of course, they could also do this at their free site.

While on the subject of live torture shows broadcast over the Internet, I wanted to suggest an idea for a new ZFX video series. The series could be called something like Slavegirls of the Virtual Torture Chamber. The subject of the series could be a company which broadcasts live over the Internet the abduction and torture of beautiful young girls to members of an exclusive international organization of wealthy sadists. During the broadcast, bids could be taken from the members for the purchase of the poor girl after the show was over.

Sorry if I got carried away with this post. When I start thinking about ZFX videos, I just get so excited that I could ramble on forever. I can’t wait for the new releases!

So, Rick's films can be a mixed blessing for me. I enjoyed the weirder aspects of "Seed," for example, but had to fast-forward through most of the last half, especially when the curling iron came out. Definitely NOT into the deliberate infliction of severe pain or injury. The sci-fi/fantasy films allow for greater creativity (within one's budget, of course) and allow for good, old-fashioned, B-movie type "horror" without coming so close to real events in the daily headlines as to make some of us (hi) squeamish.

Before I discovered the forum, I sent Rick some story ideas that I hoped he'd use--as long as they didn't break the bank. They contain horror elements like violence, murder, rape, forced procreation, incest--every sick thing you can think of that can be legally depicted--minus implement torture, extended fist beatings, and humiliation, though of course Rick can always write those in...check 'em out, let me (and Rick) know what you think.

"House of Fun"--A perverted couple pick up a pretty hitchhiker. Looking for a spot to 'seduce' her, they pull off the main road and discover a deserted tourist trap/freak show. The man becomes possessed by the tormented spirit of the show's "Horse-Man," which twists his body into the spirit's own weird (but well-endowed) form. The monster rapes and kills the man's companion, then captures the hitchhiker, strapping her to a "merry-go-round" type device--except the "horse" rides the girl. When she awakens from her ordeal, she is alone...insane...and pregnant.

"Dirty Thoughts"--the old B-Movie "Fiend Without A Face" featured a scientist who gave his thoughts material forms. The "thought-creatures," invisible at first, became horrible, murderous monsters. Now suppose a serial rapist, on the run from the law but paralyzed waist-down by a gunshot wound, became the subject of that experiment...

"DickHead"--David Cronenberg's "Rabid" meets "Little Shop of Horrors." Horror comedy! Some poor schlub gets his dink cut off in an accident. Highly experimental surgery and therapy restores it from scratch. However, the new unit develops a mind (and mouth) of its own, and it has only one thing on that mind...even though it's constantly getting bigger and stronger, what's the guy gonna do, cut it off?

"Organism"--In the far future, a small-time space smuggler, his sister, and his girl break the quarantine of a newly-discovered planet to capture some lifeforms. The only one they find--a glowing blob--traps and violates the girlfriend. Back on board their ship, she kills (and eats) her boyfriend, then begins "planting" into his bound sister, so she can lay plenty of big, ripe eggs on the long journey back to Earth...

"The Amulet"--a street-creep gives a woman a necklace that he claims will grant wishes--for a price. (Think "The Monkey's Paw.") When she finds her brother, whom she's having an incestuous involvement with, cheating on her, she finds out the creep is telling the truth. She tries to set everything right, but the price must still be paid, and the demonic street-creep drags her off to Hell...

My main concern was the motivation of the characters and injecting more traditional horror elements. In each story, somebody does something stupid that gets everybody killed, and the boogeyman in each one has his (or hers, or its) own reasons, good or not, for committing the horrid acts they do (revenge, procreation, mental illness, being a living nad). The poor "Horse-Man" of "House of Fun," for example--I didn't picture him as a 'centaur,' actually, just a severly-deformed man (hoof-like appendages, elongated face with the teeth and flappy lips, vestigial tail, huge dink--never clearly shown so the viewer could use his imagination)--is in his own private hell, a spirit haunted in turn by the voice of his vicious father/owner constantly bellowing at him and driving him on his attacks, as well as the screams of all the women who came to see the show when he was alive...(The pervert couple aren't really kidnappers, more like a date-rapist version of Bonnie and Clyde.) When his final victim awakens, alone and chained up in the Horse-Man's old freak-cage, belly kicking wildly with her unborn and who knows what else, she hears those same voices in her own head...that's just about the sickest ending I think I could come up with and keep my own noggin intact. td>

For me, this is IT! I feel I've been hanging around long enough, waiting, complaining, hoping, begging for an explanation.

All I got for it, was more delays, lame excuses, no explanation.

Again: THIS IS IT! I turn my back on you, Rick. I won't buy any of the new titles to come. Take all the time you want. Wait until the next century for all I care.

I've seen all the old ones, bought the ones I liked best and stick with those.

So long, Rick.....It used to be SO much fun, but it seemes like it couldn't last forever.

Damien

Get a good night's rest, then pop in one of ZFX's classic vids tomorrow. You'll feel better, and remember what it was that you've been waiting for. ZFX is worth waiting on. You know that.

Besides, you still owe the board some more reviews! It will help get our spirits up in these bleak times. :o)

First, let me just thank all those who read, contribute and watch the movies. Good or bad, your input is always appreciated.

Just a quick progress report. The new shows have finally been completed! They should be ready for release about 2nd or 3rd week in April. I am working on the web update right now. I'm not sure of the time frame on the update, but it should be within 2 weeks or so. Along with caps from the shows, you'll see more 3d art, and some sketch art as well. The first peek at the new shows will be on the Fantasy Food site, likely in the form of several captures from the various new shows.

Wish I had time for more, but there is still much work to do. As always, I monitor this page daily, and I read you thoughts, even if I don't have time to reply directly. Thanks to the Gimp for the fine job he does with the site. Keep the faith, there is some great stuff coming your way....

Regards,

Rick

PS: Iago, wake the hell UP! :)

I'm glad to hear about the new releases coming out in a couple weeks. I'll be saving my drachmas until then so I can snag them.

I hope Ralphus' review machine hasn't gotten too rusty during the wait!

Since the new releases seem to be the near future, what are your plans for the next batch? Any plans to use any of the ideas posted here? Some of them seemed right up your alley, and pretty bankable, if crowd reaction here was any indication. If not those ideas, do you have any inspirations? I think that would be a popular topic here, if you cared to share...

Peace,

Iago

Don'twake up for this message, please.

Rick:

What can I say that I haven't said before: Too little, too late for me. But according to the comments of some others, you can wait as long as you want for the next releases. Looks like they'll put up with everything.

Damien

It's been a few years since I saw this one, so my memory is a bit hazy. Basically, it's a chance to see some of the early ZFX performers, like Heather Lee, Sierra Stuart and Drew Phonix, in non-bondage sex scenes. In other words, if you like the girls and want to see them do something different, this is your tape. Myself, I thought it was a crashing bore, but then non-bondage sex scenes usually put me to sleep. I'm sure fans of straight vanilla X-rated stuff would feel differently about the tape, however. It appears to be all shot by Rick, not as outtakes from his videos but as separate material just for this collection. I'm also guessing it was older footage he had accumulated over the years before he released the tape.

There's some all-girl stuff in it (I believe Sierra and Heather have a scene) and for those curious among us, we get to see Rick actually having sex with his wife, Drew. He just sets up the camera and goes to it, so it's not a real exciting scene, but at least it is hardcore.

As a curio, it's worth checking out, but don't expect anything like what you're used to getting from a ZFX vid.

It was a Porno done by Rick with a bunch of the earlier girls he used in videos. I get the feeling it had a much more "ad hoc" organization than Rick's normal detailed plans, the scenes were all unrelated, and, without real direction, the sex was not especially inspiring.

Topics? You want topics? Alright, I'll do one or two until the "stuposubly" (as OJ would say) coming-soon vids hit.

First question, gentlemen (and the odd lady): We've all seen the top ten lists that have been posted here, ya? Let me run this by you.

Since no one really seems to have one favorite ZFX pick, give us the two all-time favorites, Shockwave included, that you've seen. Now, once you've done that, here's the real question.

What one thing could have been done differently to make those films even better?

Details count here, as always. I've heard bellyaching about the "decline of ZFX" here in recent months. It seems to me that as a one-man operation, Rick needs to go outside the box from time to time for fresh inspiration. Let's help him out, and let him know the tweaks that would have REALLY caught our imaginations in his vids.

Good enough, Mad Dog?

Peace,

Iago