Another scene which I'd like to see and think would be pretty interesting is where a victim is attacked in her back yard while sunbathing. Thoughts for scene here is to begin with a peeping Tom looking through the fence. Have our victim either attacked while in a bikini after falling asleep in the sun, or have her go for a skinny dip. Have the peeping Tom struggle with the sunbather, then drag her to poolside for a dunking to render her helpless, or sneek into or dive into the pool as she takes a skinny dip. Later carry the helpless victim inside to do his dirty deeds, or better yet if residence is somewhat secluded tie her to the diving board or slide or to the patio posts or lawn furiture. As far as the victim here is concerned, would really like to see someone with a young innocent appearance. Someone really petite and cute would work real well also. ZFX has many attractive actresses but to me they are all lacking in this area (Amy seems to look pretty sweet if not totally innocent). I know this is probably a tall order in the adult industry bet there are a few that fit. Felicia has done bondage videos (albeit the generic type). Alex Dane is really petite (before her boob job) and has also done bondage. I know these actresses my not be available but am just illustrating the point that there are some out there.

Would also like to see a few more attacks while in the shower.

Comments?, Additions?, Criticism?....Come on....You guys are getting stagnant, shiveling up. Let get some more postings going!

If done properly, it could add to the humiliation and coercion part of things, lead to some nice pussy smacking, and still involve some tight bondage. After all, what woman is going to squirm while a razor is being applied to her labia? Some post-smacking clothespins, tied off or taped to keep the labia extended (one of my favorite ZFX tricks) would also thus be appropriate.

Any thoughts?

For the most part, your two desires are mutually exclusive; most of the really good (IMAO) breast bondage stuff comes from the early days of ZFX, when Victoria Vixxen was around and actress still had real breasts (hear our plea Rick, hear our plea). I would second the nominations for "Night Prowler," "The Misadventures of Lois Payne," and "Guinea Pigs 2."

To this I would add that "Subject 9" is a MUST have for breast bondage fans. View it and weep over Penelope's boob job. "Drifters" is decent, tight breast bondage, with Lisa Kincaid, so a bonus for you there. For a double bonus, you might check out "Robopimp," though it is really more tit torture than breast bondage -- a fine distinction, I know, but hey, we afficianados have to draw the line somewhere.

Other breast bondage/torture vids include (if memory serves): "Guilty" and "Totemic (Guilty 2)," and the "Blunt Trauma" series (particularly numbers 3 and 4), which again feature Penelope but not the tight binding and flogging we all appreciate; I still think the breast bondage in "Gangland 3" is a terrific turn-on, and would vote same for the scenes in "Alien Probe II" (Darby Fox didn't have much up top, but she was willing to let it be used!), "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap," "Subterfuge," and "Pretty Tied Up." These last couple really only have one scene that is worthwhile though.

As for Lisa Kincaid, well, yes; pretty much anything recent will have her in it. For those who are "tired" of seeing her "all the time" though, I did a little checking. Even with her recent run, Lisa has appeared in only (by my count, 38 ZFX videos. That may seem like a lot, but it is still 4 short of Chandra Sweet's record.

Who loves ya' baby?

First I'd like to thank all who watch ZFX /Shockwave movies, read this forum and contribute here. Again thanks to the Gimp for making it all happen. Ok, I'm going to focus on what we have coming up in they way of new releases, and when you can expect them. The good news is I have a ton of great material in the can that I am working on(editing) right now. The bad news is the next 5 releases will likely not be ready until Jan 2000. I know many of you out there are muttering, "what the hell Rick, 5 lousy releases in 99? What gives you lazy bum!" Well, I wish I was laying on the beach drinking Bud all summer, but the reality is I've spent the last three or four months waging war with copyright violators which has cut into my time severely.

The internet has increased the proliferation of adult material and ZFX particularly. Unfortunately, it has also brought a wave people who think they can make a buck off my back by selling bootleg tapes. I can't afford to let that happen. Now I know private people trade copies they make one at a time amongst themselves because they are into it, that's one thing, but when a company is illegally duplicating my products and commercially competing with me with bootleg tapes, that simply won't do. We can never sell as cheap because they don't have any production costs and those costs are substantial.This takes time, effort and money, but I can't afford to allow a company to steal from me on a commercial level and get away with it if I can help it. I spent most of the summer chasing (literally in some cases)down bootleggers. I think a lot of the bigger adult manufacturers look the other way and consider this the price of doing business, but ZFX is small enough that this type of loss is not acceptable. I can't afford to put out new material only to have some bootlegger rip it off, so this problem simply had to be addressed and quickly.

This is nothing new, I've been fighting against pirates from the get go, and even more or less "burned them in effigy" with my Video Pirates series. Every so often a new set of scum bags pops up and has to be knock down. Its kinda like that gopher gamer at the fair where the gopher pops up in different holes and you have to see how fast you can hit them with the mallet! Make no mistake, these companies are screwing the consumer(you) just as hard as me and I really hate to see my material presented in such poor quality. And they don't even sell them that cheap! At any rate , all this bullshitting around wastes my time, and that's something that there seems to never be enough of in this business. It's a balance of how much time you can waste trying to prevent losses before your lack of production causes even greater damage! Don't worry, it's not as bad as it sounds, but if you can, be careful what you buy, this would help me a great deal. If you think you have a bootleg, drop me a line and tell about it. If it has no cover or a white sleeve its probably a bootleg. The tape should always come in a 4 color printed box or in the case of the first 33 titles plus the Entity line, a plastic clamshell with a 4 color printed insert. It should look descent. If it looks washed out, laser copied, xeroxed(I've seen it) etc, its probably a fake.

Anyway, enough of my incessant whining! I am now back in the editing bay full time and working toward the soonest possible release date, which as I said will probably fall in early January 99. I don't have titles for all the shows yet, but as soon as they are firm, I'll let you know. Basically you will see a sequel to SOB, Ballista and 666 as well as the Bridgette Bayonne feature, "In Their Nature"(this movie I outlined in a earlier post). The 5th show is still up in the air but it may be another Shockwave movie, a tentacle style horror movie. We just finished it this weekend with Penny Pace and Ms Kinkaid. Penny looks incredible(I hadn't seen her in a long time) she just got off the dance circuit and she is leaner and leggier that ever. I know many of you (myself included) don't like enhanced mams but as lung jobs go, hers is very natural looking. Anyway she looked great and as always did and incredible job. She is one super lady, professional and tuff as nails.

The likely title will be Viral Load. Not totally sure on number 5 though. The website will be updated with caps from the new shows some time in Nov. Hoping to get caps up for all the shows eventually (I know I keep saying that). Once again whatever happens you'll hear it here first. I wish I had time to respond to all your comments, but unfortunately I don't. I've been trying to jot some stuff down as I read, hitting some of the more common points. Rest assured I read them all and am learning a lot about who you are and what your thinking about. You sick fuckers:)!!! Thanks for caring enough to write, post here and watch the movies. I've been trying to respond to all email as well, but I know some slip through the cracks. If I don't respond, try again.

Ok, gonna reply to a few comments. Some of these going WAY back.

Troy Air: I believe you had mentioned about War Pigs, that the Pilots boots were not removed when she (Chandra Sweet) was stripped. I think (haven't seen the show in a long time so correct me if I'm wrong here), Bryan Dunhill and I literally (and violently) tore the suit off her (I think it ends up around her ankles), which I thought was quite realistic, because the objective of the characters was to humiliate her. She is beaten and we then jack off on her semi nude body. Her boots remain on. Why? Because.......

1.Why would the attackers bother with taking off the boots? Her clothes were already removed to the point that the necessary organs were exposed for use, and the purpose of the interrogation is break her as quick as possible. Unless foot torture was employed, it would not be expeditious. Real life violence is nothing if not expeditious, and hasty strip downs to partially clad I think led realism. An adrenalized attacker wants to achieve his goals as quickly as possible. Stopping to remove the boots would have, in my estimation, hurt the realism. "I'm going to rip your clothes off, beat and sodomize you, but first lets unlace and remove your boots......:P.

2. I thought the boots did lend a military "feel" and looked good. I realize some people really like the sight of a woman's naked foot, but I'm not one of them. Not that I don't like them (feet), but I like to go with variety, from fully clothed to completely nude and all points between and that includes footwear. I tend to actually prefer shoes on I think, but I agree that its not good if it looks contrived, it should fit into the action in a natural way. I am a big fan of tennis shoes and socks.

3. Speaking of socks, someone mentioned catholic school girl outfit scenario. It is legally unwise (and possibly illegal) to depict or imply someone is under age 18 in a sexually explicit movie, so this is not doable. Nuns would be fair game, but I don't really have any interest and Catholicism isn't, IMHO, worth the run time. Maybe as part of a Cthulu type movie nuns might work well. Saw a great comic strip called the Convent of Hell. Was posted on usenet and it was one of the best I've seen. A convent is taken over by lusty demons when the Nuns discover a gate to hell hidden in the ancient building. This is very politically incorrect stuff though...touchy subject matter religion is. I'd definitely think twice before doing such a project.

Ralphus:This is going back to a comment Ralphus had made(and maybe several others too) about what I call Lifestyle, or "Scene" b&d/s&m. This would be a slave master or mistress situation, generally leather clad. I have little or no interest in it and I think it is interesting that he and sure others have noticed the distinction in what is really two or more divergent bondage genre. I don't care much for a submissive who is begging for punishment. Nor do I like female performers who are covered in tats and genital piecing. For some reason, that scenario seems almost unrealistic to me, though to some this is the ultimate in sexual stimulation, and because they are generally more consensual, probably the most often carried out scenario in real life.

Most of these movies are shot in one room depicting a scene rather than a story, people playing themselves more or less, or their alter egos, looking for real life gratification though either dominance or submission. This is not to denigrate those into the lifestyle scene, I guess I'm just too Vanilla for it, really. I just don't enjoy that type of scenario. It's nothing personal against it, that type of material just doesn't do it for me. Maybe it's just too predictable. One person's pill is another's poison. I prefer to see a theatrical scenario, rather than real stuff because if its done right it can be taken much farther than is possible in real life. I like a lot of psychological tension between the characters and there should be some purpose for the torture beyond merely wanting to submit, a motive which I find hard to fully believe.

One of the things that got me involved in producing movies was the lack of other types of bondage materials in the late eighties. This was just after the Meese commission had done its version of the Inquisition on the adult industry. If you recall, the Meese commission was a congressional committee setup by the Regan appointed attorney general Edwin Meese staffed with an unholy marriage of the ultra right wing religious ideologs and ultra left wing feminazis bent on showing the link between pornography and sexual violence. All they ended up showing is how stupid they really are. Anyway, material such as the superb HOM hardcore bondage 8mm movies were perfect fodder for the commission. A couple of great HOM movies from that era, if you can find them, are Tourist Trap and Bitter Sweet Revenge.

Anyway, the knee jerk reaction of the adult industry was to pull these types materials and cease production of new. A lot of this ties in with why you don't see hardcore and bondage mixed. Lifestyle type bondage S&M play is perceived as being more defensible in court because it is much like a documentary and thus educational in nature, and generally consensual so its less offensive. If you read one of my earlier posting concerning the Miller test, you'll see this all ties in.

Anyway, this is why there was and still is a propensity of this type material in the market and little else. Also the perception by the powers that be in the adult industry that aren't into and don't understand the many faces of bondage, or sexuality in general, think that this (Lifestyle) is what we all want. Obviously that'd not the case, since sexual preferences and fantasies are as varied as the rainbow. ZFX is the basically the antithesis of Lifestyle D/S if you think about it. Anyway, I think its ironic that the Meese commission is directly responsible for the existence of ZFX. Had I been able to find any descent porno in the late 80's, I probably would be happily working some normal 9-5 job somewhere! Actually, its a LITTLE more complicated than that but..... their efforts set the stage in many ways for yours truly to become the , uh, well, I don't know, pornographer, I am today.

Several, ok a bunch of people have mentioned what they like to see in a bondage movie, so I'll throw my hat in the ring and tell you what I like to see and to some degree try to achieve when making a movie.

1. The victims must be female and VERY attractive. No tats, or small tasteful tats, no genital piecing. I think the more wholesome looking the better, but the actress must fit the role. Generally speaking,I like women unblemished and unaltered. Natures hand is hard to beat artistically in my opinion.

2. Realism, not real. There must be a credible reason why the victim is in the particular situation. Torture without purpose is not believable. Many people pay lip service to wanting real torture(not here that much, but in letters, email newsgroups). Here's my big problem with really torturing people, aside from the obvious ethical problem. Real torture can never go far enough for me, not without injuring or killing people! Personally, I've only seen a few tapes with so called "real" whipping that didn't seem like another poster had said "swatting flies". Fakery can be both more convincing and more aesthetically pleasing(at least to me). It's certainly easier(at least for me ) on the conscience! Many here have mentioned Poor Cecily as being the a great torture movie. This movie is 100% fake, but it looked great and you believed it because it was done well.

3.The Setting and buildup. The set should match the scenario. I love these movies where its a period piece and the girls tied up in front of a wall of pretty obviously painted on stones. There goes the suspension of disbelief! This is one of the reasons I have not attempted a period piece. If I do it, I want it to be at least fairly convincing, and period pieces are difficult to pull off without continuity mistakes. Some exterior shots also go along way on selling the movie, and I like to see that. I also like to see information on the victim , who is she, what does she do before

a) How did you get started in the ZFX films?

Lisa: A friend of mine who worked for Rick at the time told me about it and I needed money so I decided to try it.

b) What do you do to prepare for a film?

Lisa: Well, I try to get the next day off or clear so I can rest because I'm really exhausted afterward! Obviously I shower, shave my legs, trim my bikini area stuff like that. Put on makeup. There are a few things I do for the movies that I wouldn't do otherwise appearance wise. In case you haven't noticed, I always have tan lines!


c) Of the films you've performed in, which would you consider to be your best work?

Lisa: I would have to say Seed.


d) Which would you consider to be your most difficult scene(s)?

Lisa: Hmmmm. They're all hard! Probably something I just did. They hung me over a washtub filled with water hand cuffed and winch me into it head first upside down. I was getting a ton of water up my nose! Also the first whipping scene (in Beyond Driven 3: Suffering of Stephanie Renford) I did it was so hot in the warehouse and I was so nervous I hyperventilated, but it was ok. They put me by an AC unit till I calmed down.We waited till it got later and cooled off, then finished the movie.


e) How much input do you have in making a shot/a film/a script?

Lisa: Well, I do my best to put up a good fight and make the right sounds. I make suggestions about positions and Rick uses them sometimes. The scenes have to be worked out before we start. Most of what we do is ad lib though Rick has some sort of loose plan and occasionally even written dialogue!


f) When not making films, what else do you do for a living - acting, dancing, clerical, student, sales, etc.?

Lisa: N/A


g) What scene would you like to shoot or re-shoot?

Lisa: Haha! None of them! Actually the dialogue stuff is really the toughest and sometime I wish we had more time to do more takes.


h) Do you plan to ever try making your own films some day?

Lisa: I don't know, I would have to say no for now:).


and finally...

i) If you weren't acting, what would you rather be doing (i.e. what would be your dream job. Us guys usually say "astronaut, cowboy, pro athlete, rock star, king of the world")?

Lisa: How about President Kinkaid! You did say dream job!


Ok, there you have it, straight from the source. This was done on a lunch break, so the answers are kind of brief, but she did it out of the goodness of her heart, so ain't bitching. She did not wish to disclose her occupation.

Rick

Excellent idea! Bound, gagged, and shaved on camera as part of the humiliation and torment. Never even thought of that one. Would make a great scene if Rick could get Lisa (or someone else equally as attractive) to go along with it. Hope he takes note!

Ralphus,

You made me chuckle with your comment, "you must do this for a living", or something to that effect. No, just a wanna be film maker I guess.

Which in turn gets me to the next thought for possible video themes. Halloween just ended but the melody remains. A House on Haunted Hill meets I Know What You Did Last Summer fusion. A group of 8 or so are dared to spend the night in a supposably haunted house where a mass murder took place years ago and where the killer was never found. The group enter, try to spook each other with stories and legends of the occurance, and then make off in their seperate directions. Some to explore, others to make out, the remainder just hanging out partying. Instead of getting knocked off one by one, each is abducted into a secret room by some sex fiend(s). At the beginning no one notices the first couple of disapearances. But then they become spooked by their own story telling and believe that the killer has returned. Trapped with no way out each is abducted one by one until they're all at the mercy of the maniac(s). Instead of getting knocked off (the guys can get knocked off or come to the rescue later. But do not want to see any guys in bondage!) each is sexually tortured and in full veiw of the others who know their turn will come all to soon. Would have the eerie feel that I like. Just a horror buff I guess...but what would you expect from a vampire anyway.

Thoughts?

Thanks for the update, Rick. I'm curious about that 5th movie. You said you weren't sure about it. What aren't you sure about?

Peace,

Iago

All right!, Get the pirates and bootleggers taken care of and now can get down to the business of feeding our fantsies. I am however extremely offended by you're calling us a bunch of "Sick Fuckers". Come on now!, Demented...yes, perverted fucks...yes, but sick? Yeaugh,OK...I can live with that. OK, sick, and proud of it!

All jesting aside, glad to hear that we are going to see a new crop real soon. Look forward to seeing an update on the web site also. Very nice of Lisa to give an interview, brief as it may have been. If she would care to grace us with another sometime, still would really like to hear if bondage is part of her love life instead of just a job.

Also agree with Ricks criteria for possible actresses. No peircings, don't like tatoos. They break up the line of the body esthetically speaking. And especially don't like them on the ankles since the legs are the longest lines on the body (no offense Lisa...exception in your case). Don't like bizaare colored hair either. Amputee's however are OK....just kidding.

Back to the videos. Now that all the distractions are out of the way would like to once again inquire about the possibility of releasing one or two vieos at a time at more frequent intervals as opposed to group releases but only a few times a year?

Keep 'em comming and keep 'em tied up.

Later

I read, and re-read, Rick's posting and agreed with almost all of it -- except of course, that I still think he's been a lazy slacker this year. :-) But from why the army boots stayed on to why the tatoos should remain off, I agreed with it. Especially the portion about realistic but not real, and the whole "theory of bondage/torture movies," thing. Let's face it, if I (we? you?) were really out to torture someone in real life, it would be a lot uglier, a lot more painful, and a lot less sexual and attractive than it is in ZFX.

Like many other posters, I am willing to accept the label of "perverted" to some degree for my preferences -- though "sick fuckers" seems to be a bit strong -- and I am not altogether happy about having them. Inbred Catholic/American guilt about sexuality perhaps. But there is still an element of shame, at least for me.

Add in the fact that, though I discovered my penchant for the female form in bondage at a young age (I'd say 11 or 12, after seeing an ad for an adult film in the newspaper in which the woman was bound), I have never had the courage or opportunity to share it openly in a relationship, or even in a friendship. That is, save for the fact that my SO once discovered some material of this kind -- which made her "sick" -- no one else really knows of this interest of mine. So how do we deal with that? And how would you go about introducing the subject of being a bondage freak into a relationship anyway -- unless of course you met the person in a "scene" club or something.

To conclude, I have noted more musings on how to fit ZFX into a "lifestyle," and so have merely offered my own observations here. Comments are welcome -- criticism only if it is constructive.

About the transition in the 80's, I can't agree with Rick more about how good bondage stuff just disappeared and everybody went weak. In addition to Bittersweet Revenge and Tourist Trap, The Experiment was also good (all of them Tri-Star). You know, I really like a lot of ZFX's actresses, but Renee Baker set the standard - in addition to her great body, she had the best facial expressions of pain and torment I have ever seen (though I think Penelope Pace is a top contender in this area). The biggest change was in the quality of magazines - has anybody seen how much classic HOM magazines are going for on E-Bay?!? Hey Rick, you ever thought of publishing any magazines? Close-Up does it through LDL (but, of course, most Close-Up stuff is weak). Do you think you might could partner up with some shop and get the best bondage produced in America in print finally?

At any rate, I am glad to see stuff being released again, and I hope Rick will feel guilty for keeping us waiting so long and make 2000 a RECORD YEAR!!!! How about it Rick?

It was cool of Lisa to take time to Anwser the questions. All I have to say is that if Lisa becomes president, I volunteer to be her intern!! (o.k., so that joke is probally dead but I couldnt resist.)

Avf

I liked your idea about the haunted house theme.It does have some good possibilities. As far as the guys are concerned you could kill them off ala some campy horror flick, and as the women are running around the house scared they can be abducted by a group (ok maybe just two guys). Then just for laughs you could have a "nerd come and rescue the girls at the end. That would be a good setting to help build up the suspense that some of the others were talking about.

Hey Rick

Give those Assholes a couple of kicks for me.

Later all

Mad Dog

3.TheSetting and buildup. The set should match the scenario. I love these movies where its a period piece and the girls tied up in front of a wall of pretty obviously painted on stones. There goes the suspension of disbelief! This is one of the reasons I have not attempted a period piece. If I do it, I want it to be at least fairly convincing, and period pieces are difficult to pull off without continuity mistakes. Some exterior shots also go along way on selling the movie, and I like to see that. I also like to see information on the victim , who is she, what does she do before whatever horrible events take place. What does she look like in her clothes? Where does she live, what does she drive, what does she do when she1s alone? Stuff like that. Some setup and buildup is very important.

4.Innovative Action. There should be a few things I haven't seen before. Basically, the harsher the better though I'm not big on mutilation, that is of no interest to me. I like to see stuff that goes beyond what is possible in real life without causing injury or death. This is the thing I personally like about movie making more than any other aspect. A movie is able to fool you into believing the impossible, and make the impossible possible. For example, if you hang a person for 15min by the wrists continuously, that person will be in some very serious distress, and your going to see alot of burst capillaries at the very least possibly worse, much worse. But in a movie the same thing can be done at one min intervals or less and the person being hung will suffer no ill effects. In Warpigs 3 Cindy Macreedy gets hung by the neck while she is interrogated until she passes out and pees in her flight suit. That scene is not possible without special effects. You really hang someone and they will likely die of asphyxiation due to swelling of the windpipe, even if there is no drop. No one is going to volunteer for that duty or the long prison time the person pulling on the rope would do! So you can take things much farther outside the realm of reality. It might take hours to create a 15min scene but the finished, edited product will make it seem as if it was a continuous event and nobody gets hurt doing it.

5.Good Production Values. Good lighting, creative, not a full blast 3 point no shadows lighting. Shadows can be our friends! Very important are good camera work, sound, tight editing, good acting/directing, good video quality, film is even better. I'm sure some of you have seen some of the Japanese Cinemagic films. The are the pinnacle of bondage movie production, shot on film extravaganzas. I have no idea how they can afford to shoot those movies. 100,00.00 US easy. Anyway, they are really spectacular, especially if you can find em without mosaics. Anyway the point is the better the video quality the better I like it.

Anyway that1s at least some of the ingredients that I think make a good bondage show, at least in my opine. Knowing what you want and achieving it are two different things however.

NYCdom: You wanted the best selling shows? Guinea Pigs is still number one but may be unseated by War Pigs.

Several People have mentioned playing bondage games in their private lives. In a way, I prefer to observe rather than do because I have a rather voyeuristic nature. Participating can be fun too though:).Main thing is, always respect your partners wishes and try to show her a good time, and above all, be safe. There are plenty of ladies out there just as horny as us dudes, the hard part is finding them.I address this to the guys because I don1t think women have a problem finding guys to tie them up if that1s what they want. Who knows, maybe they do!

Some one mentioned Slave Sex. If you want real torture and don1t care what the victim looks like, look no further. I1ll some up my feelings on it in 4 words.NEIN !NEIN! NEIN! Yuck! Course, that1s just my opinion.

Here is some suggested viewing that is not ZFX, but is ZFX style. Intrusion is a movie that features a great home invasion scenario from the early seventies, and its a full boat, hardcore movie. After her hubby goes to work for the day, a man posing as and insurance salesman attacks a house wife after she opens the door. He takes her up to the bedroom at knife point, ties her to the bed and(with his knotted necktie) gags her ,then a great forced oral scene, she sucks his cock while she is fucked with knife handle then grudge fucked. The intruder just shoots his load when the doorbell rings. Her neighbor friend is at the door. She is led up stairs by the intruder to discover her friend tied spread on the bed. Neighbor is stripped, more forced oral, forced lez, more grudge fucking. Finally, the intruder is killed by the first victim with a carelessly placed knife while he is occupied eating the her pussy and getting his dick shined by her friend. Of course he spooges again in the neighbors mouth as he is stabbed.This movie is old but you might be able to pick it up somewhere. Girls are great looking natural beauties that seemed to be everywhere in the early seventies, before plasticsurgery ruined a good portion of the talent. The only negative is no anal. Anyway, its a good movie. I have written a script of a similar vein, might try to make it next year. AVF:You have alot of good ideas, you ought to pick up a camera and try your hand at movie making! If you need any advice, drop me a line.

Ok, that1s it for now(as if that ain1t enough).Thanks again to all who read, post and watch the movies! Read below(er... above now) the Lisa Kinkaid Interview.

Rick

Even though I too have a problem with including bondage in with my sex play, mine more or less stems from a factor of lack of trust (from earlier post). The ladies I've brought the subject up with have been receptive to the idea but for the above mentioned reason it hardly ever gats any further than playful flirtation with the idea. I have included it on very numerous occasions (but while in relationships) but cannot get past the trust factor in...lets call it...dating sex. Maybe it's just me or the experiences I've had but a lot of women are flakes. What I mean by that is they'll say one thing (not wanting to get involved...which is fine) and then do another (not being able to get rid of them...or getting offended when you don't call freqently enough). I'm trying to condense this as much as possible so I hope your understanding what I'm trying to say here.

Back to your want to include it in your sex play. I've had very receptive reactions when you bring up the subject very flirtatiously. Such as while making out the, the little conversations you have inbetween kisses and caresses. Saying things like..."You do know I'm kinky don't you?". Then you'll either get a question to which you could answer something like..."I like tying up pretty girls when I make love to them" or something to that effect. Or even before the question and before or during the next kiss gently take one of her hands and with a light grip pull it behind her back. Make sure it's light enough that if she's spooked by it she'll instantly be able to pull it back. I've found that almost always you won't even have to worry about this. I mean if you two are making out then she obviously likes you. Or let her know when you two are first getting together...something to the effect of "I don't know if I should be going out with you. You seem like such a nice girl...and I gotta be honest...I'm really kinky" But also leave yourself an out "Not that I'm saying that I look to sleep with everyone I go out with...I can have a perfectly good time just going out platonically...but if I do get involved with someone I just want to be straight forward and let them know who I am". See but this is my stumbling block because of lacking in trust in my partners. But for you, you gotta decide what your feelings are about this. You do need to have guts the first few times but then it comes easy. Like I said, just bring it up flirtingly and who knows how good it can be. I had a relationship with one girl for about a year where 90% of the time we made love while she was bound. And 90% of climaxes were oral. And this relationship started when I told her I had a dream about her (but could'nt tell her what it was...until out of curiuosity she forced it out of me). About the third time out she asked me if I wanted to live my dream? Answer is obvious.

I have to work out the trust factor. If this is something you don't worry about, then take the step. But like Rick said in his post, Don't go any farther that she's willing to go and make it enjoyable for her too.

Rick,

Thanks for the kind words. If you don't mind sharing a secret or two on filming I might just take you up on your offer one of these days.

G'night all

AVF:Just a quick comment about female flakes. Guys are just as big of flakes IMHO. Sometimes we flake about different stuff is all! I definitely agree that you should use extreme caution when playing these games with another. Your legal concerns are completely valid, so make sure that it is a person you trust.

Since it seems like the real reviewers(Ralphus and Gimp et al) are bogged down, and I type really fast, I'll shoot you a auto biographic review of the Van. I'll try to stick to the facts and not try to editorialize too much. That said, here goes!

The Van is a female over female movie. Basically, an anti porn zealot dressed as a man(Tabitha Jordan), who goes after a topless dancer/hooker(Stacy Freeman), abducts her and holds her captive in a van where she is tortured mercilessly and video taped, the anti porn chick wanting to show the evil of pornography and men by example. She has a hard time finding any domestically produced torture and snuff harsh enough to make her point, so she decides to make her own. She then goes to the media with the tapes claiming they were mad by those evil men. Truthfully she1s a closet lesbian wanting to get her freak on and looking for a excuse to use and abuse some poor honey.

The abduction takes place in a sleazy lap dance/bottle club(the set for this was not well executed, but hopefully doesn1t take away from the rest of the movie) which is a front for prostitution. Stacy goes to service her customer in the can, realizes she1s a woman(she has a enormous dildo in her pants) but figures so what, as long as she/he pays. She starts sucking it like a pro when Tab goes berzeerk and beats her till she pukes, then shoves a long stem rose she bought for the dancer down her throat. I think she strangles on it until she1s unconscious. The rest of the movie takes place in a van, where the hooker wakes up tied spread eagle nude and ballgaged. She has C clamps applied to her nips and puss, then Tab Shocks her with a cattle prod. The next day she gets (a ton) of clothespins applied to her tits puss. I believe through most of this she has a red ball gag in. Tab fucks her several times with the strapon and she is ass fucked with a very large tire iron. I believe she is whipped or beaten but I can't recall the implement(might be a radiator hose) and also in one scene she is trussed up in a semi suspended hogtied with a pillow case over her head. This was shot after Tabs boob job and she has a great look, unfortunately she is not tied in this movie. Stacy Freeman is a natural redhead, pale white skin, pretty face, nice little body and great set of tits. She also appeared in (I think ) the first two Video Pirate movies.

Is it a good movie? I'll try to be objective as possible. I'd say if your into Girl Girl bondage, it's pretty good. It has been a fairly strong seller. My retrospective gripe is that the editing could have been tighter during the dance club sequence, the run time is kinda long, about 90 min. If it's of any interest to you, this was one of the most difficult (physically) movies to shoot because of tight space, unbelievable heat and was outdoors( the van was) so it was fairly risky footage to obtain.

Katria, great to see a female join the fray! As far as movies containing actual penetration and all the other stuff, I don't know of any current stuff like that, at least not domestically produced, probably need to go with european.

Ok, thats it, into the editing bay I go.......thanks again to all read post and watch!

Rick

Thanks for respounding to my question about the best selling tape. I liked Guinea Pigs I, but thought III and V were the best. War Pigs? Each there own I guess

I was just thinking that 1999 would be your slowest year since you started making tapes. Sorry to hear that. I will tell you that in NYC most of the stores are selling bootleg tapes.

I kinds knew that you would be rehashing some of the old tapes. I for one am not to excited to see a squeal to SOB. The last wave has the same women in the same dungeon for the most part. Also, its been awhile since you hit a home run. Forced Entry was the last one I really liked. I am excited about the Bridgette video. I only wish you could add another victim or two. I miss the old days when I got three victims on a tape. The horror one sounds good too, but I would like to see some knew models. Lisa is good, but I think she need to take a layoff. Maybe I will miss her if she is gone.

I look forward to seeing some vidcaps on your sight. You really could do more with it. Check out AntonVideo or AESProductions, they have pretty good sites, offering Real time video too.

Oh, you mentioned the video Intrusion. I brought the tape, and your right, very good. You can order it at Bizzarvideo.com

Thanks for reading and thank you for making these videos.

Per: A tape of torture scenes from mainstream movies? Have tried pestering Oslo, he's probably the only one w/ the resources. Think about it -- select takes from "Barbarian Queen" 1 & 2. "Barbed Wire Dolls", and assorted WIP flicks. I'd buy it (esp. b/c it'll be next year before new ZFX titles pop up).

Per: A tape of torture scenes from mainstream movies? Have tried pestering Oslo, he's probably the only one w/ the resources. Think about it -- select takes from "Barbarian Queen" 1 & 2. "Barbed Wire Dolls", and assorted WIP flicks. I'd buy it (esp. b/c it'll be next year before new ZFX titles pop up).

Bondage Fan: It's good to see another fan of girl-girl bondage. I remember a video by, I beleive, Bizzare that had two black women dominating two white women - something like "Mistress without Mercy"? But I can't think of a single ZFX film that has a black woman in it.

Here's another idea I think would be interesting: several women are playing poker (or some other form of gambling), and the stakes get higher and higher until one poor women has lost to the rest the right to torture her how they may for the rest of the night. I also like the scenario where you have two women fighting until one gets the upper hand enough to restrain the other and starts the sensual torture.

Mincemeat Pie's policewoman was a detective, played by Lisa Kinkaid. She is plainclothes, wearing a skirt and blouse, at least for most of the first flick.

If you like uniforms, you might want to try the "Warpigs" series. This features girls in flight suits being shot down and tortured by middle-eastern-style paramilitary types. It's as close as I can think of Rick coming to using uniforms, except for cheerleader uniforms. I'm no Ralpus or NYCDOM, tho. They've seen more of Rick's videos and might know better than me on this.

So far as legal ramifications, I am not aware of any issues with people in uniforms. I'm no lawyer, but I've never heard of any rule like that, and I have seen bondage movies with cops/security guards, etc. Rick did a really great post about a month back on the perils of penetration bondage, though, and mentioned some of the other pitfalls involved in making bondage movies while he was at it. You might want to check the older messages for it.

Peace,

Iago

I agree though that an official looking uniform would increase a video's quality by ten fold. But the legal ramificatiopns would not be worth it.Oh well that is my two cents worth.

Peace all, Mad Dog

I can agree that guys can be just as flaky as women but how many guys do you know who would do the folowing: You see a salesperson wearing a low cut black dress. I mean, hey, I'm a red blooded vampire! So I ask her out with all of two minutes worth of conversation at the most. Later we talk on the phone for the first time and it's, "Oh, I told all my friends, and I told my mom that I had met you." Come on, she's got no idea of who I am or what I'm like, and she's telling everybody we met. I guess I should be flattered but I just want to have a good time (and that could mean just going to a movie or hanging out). Now how many guys are going to think relationship or marraige material right off the bat. That's just one example of what I mean by flakes.

With that said it's nice to see another female poster in Katia (who's probably thinking...Who's this sack of Sh*t).

Ralphus,

You probably got a good idea of what I like in videos, can you recommend any of the earlier ZFX's that meets my tastes? I got SQUEELER from a best of review that you did but didn't care for it too much. Could have been a great video but the actress kept her panties on the whole time. Not meaning to sound shallow but lets be honest, we get the video's for the primal factor now don't we. I've seen preview of DANCE MACBRE, or is it HOUSE OF HORRORS. Can't remember which for sure...but anyways, there's a really attractive looking brunette, but in all the preview scenes it looks like she's got her panties on all the time also. Any feedback or anything else you can recommend. My exposure to ZFX dosen't go back as far as yours. Or anyone else who can recommend anything without me having to go into what I like in videos again.

Thanks

I would be interested in anyones take on this. Am I way off base, projecting my owm experience on everybody who has the same perv as me? Or am I on to something here?

I worked in the porn store that you can see in "Underland 1&2" SOB 3 and 666. I worked there for close to a year and from watching the people that came in and bought, or rented videos I learned that you can not judge them. I saw lawyers and Doctors and buisness people buying anything from a couples tape to golden showers to Max Hardcore to bondage to gay. When you saw somebody walk in the door 9 times out of 10 you could not guess to what they were interested in.

As far as saying that people who watch regular porn are boring and dull (paraphrasing by the way) is totally off the mark. Many of the people on the board know that I am not a big bondage fan. (I am a fan of ZFX, though due to Rick and his commitment to produce a quality item and the way he deals with those around him). I would much rather prefer a regular porn to a bondage flick and if you were to ask some of my ex's you would find that I am anything but boring. It just comes down to what turns me on, and that is going to be different from you. But you cant put people into groups, because of what they watch. I would never do it to you. For example I think that golden showers are sick and I find it hard that people want to watch that stuff, BUT I am not going to judge the people for watching it. To each their own.

I can see what you are saying about dealing with stuck up bitches in hight school, I dont think that there are many people who didnt experience at least one in high school or growing up. I got shot down more than my fair share in school. I even had some try to come up and talk to me after I was out of high school even though they wqouldnt talk to me in school. The point that I am trying to make is that I have had some experiences like yours and I prefer differnt things. My total belief is that your sexual likes and dislikes are inside of you from birth and that is just who you are.

Like I said before, you are entitled to you opinion and I respect that.

Peace all, Mad Dog

I can't argue about the need for the models being attractive. I'm not going to get all excited watching somebody's fat old grandma in bondage. I agree with a nice clean natural look, no tatoos, piercing, and I'd add a preference for natural breasts. I also want a sense of realism because it's what carries the sensation of the film. The minute I start thinking that I'm watching a bunch of paid performers, I've lost interest in what I'm watching. A convincing setting and buildup adds to the realism that I want. I'll beg to differ on innovative action and that starts getting into my personal tastes. Good production values falls into the "duh" category because it's a given. It's not as if there's a bunch of folks championing poorly shot and edited videos.

Bondage, for me, is ultimately about forced sex. I'm not looking for an elaborate plot. I don't need the sci-fi aspects that you want to bring into your videos. There's not a lot of motivation behind the villain's actions other than a lustful desire to take what he otherwise cannot have. The perfect video for me is seeing a villain kidnap a beautiful woman, bind and gag her, rip her clothes off, fondle and grope her for most of the video while she tries to avoid his unwanted attentions, and capping it with a final rape. Torture has always bored me and seems too impersonal. I'd rather see the bad guy digging his fingers into his captive's breasts than see him whipping her.

I'm not looking for art in a bondage video. In any fetish video, the fetish takes precedence over everything else. My favorite ZFX videos are Prowler 1 & 2 and Highway to Hell. These videos are simply collections of beautiful women being abducted and sexually abused. From a producer/director standpoint, I'd imagine that they're not your favorites because it doesn't take much thought to make them. You know what? I don't care because they had the elements that I wanted to see.

I have a whole different set of expectations when I buy or rent a bondage video than when I do the same for a mainstream film. With mainstream stuff, I want to engage my mind. Things like plots and acting and thematic content are very important. With a bondage video, I'm satisfying a more primitive urge and that lustful part of my id isn't very interested in anything beyond the action. A lot of plot depth is wasted on me. Throw in too much background exposition and I'm on the fastforward button. I'd just as soon see more videos in basements, garages and attics than warehouses and dungeon type settings. It strikes me as a little more frightening that a woman is bound and gagged in the bowels of an everyday house than someplace more exotic.

I've mostly rented ZFX videos because it's very rare to find a lot that I want in the videos. I keep renting them because I'm always looking for those nuggets to satisfy my force fantasies, but the videos are too spotty for me to buy them. I'd purchase more if there was an easier means to be sure that I was going to get what I want. That's where branding becomes important. I don't know if it's possible to segment the videos into certain categories, but it would make it easier to decide if I wanted to buy one.

That being said, I still pose the question to other contributors to th Forum and assure all that my intention is NOT to judge or to insult ANYONE. I'm just curious if anyone has noticed the same trends as I have in my own little corner of life.

AvF: In regards to your preferences regarding ZFX movies, I'm not really sure exactly what you like. I mean, thimbs down to "Squealer" just because she kept her panties on? To be honest, I don't think I can remember which tapes had the actresses with their panties on or off...I guess if they were raped, they would have to be off! The blonde didn't get raped in that tape, but I still felt it was excellent, mainly because she was such a cute victim. I figured out that there were rape scenes in only 4 of my Top Ten ZFX, so obviously I don't think rape is a necessity for making a good vid (although it helps!). There are certain criteria I consider when I rate a ZFX tape, among them story, believablity, attractiveness of the actress, etc. If you want to visit the Guestbook Archives for an earlier post, I thought the Gimp himself gave an excellent list of what makes a good ZFX tape. Gimp, if you would like to re- post that thread, it would be appreciated.

Regarding the tape you mentioned, I believe you are talking about "Chamber of Horrors", starring the attractive brunette Kimber Allen. This was very much a fantasy type of video, with Kimber in a sort of haunted house setting (memory fades me on this one, sorry). Anyway, I recall this tape as being very well-made, with a nice atmosphere, and some decent effects, like Kimber getting raped by a plunger that moved by itself. If you like magic, fantasy bondage, it is worth checking out. Myself, I was left cold by the tape, as there was nothing in it that really worked for me, plus Kimber, in spite of her admittedly nice looks, was a terrible actress! I wasn't a big fan of hers, but yes, she was a looker.

BBFan and Mad Dog: I agree in part with BOTH of your posts regarding bondage lovers. To agree with Mad Dog, I worked in video retail in one capacity or another for 12 years, and you must certainly CANNOT tell about someone based on the porn they like. The image of the sleazy dirty old man who comes into the store to get his porn is a complete stereotype (although we had some customers that DID fit that description). Most renters were regular Joes like you or I, had wives, wore business suits, looked like they could fit in perfectly with the rest of society. As far as BBFan's assertion that people who prefer bondage tapes are more intelligent, well, it's a nice thought, anyway, since I'm one of those who also feels regular hardcore is dull without ropes to spice things up. So I suppose I could pat myself on the back by thinking that I'm smarter because I like to watch women get tied up and tortured! But it's a ridiculous notion. :o)

The part I do agree with, though, is the idea of liking bondage films because they fulfil my secret desire to get even with stuck-up bitches who rejected me in life. One need only put her face on the body of one of the babes getting stripped, whipped and raped in a ZFX vid to feel a certain sense of revenge. Take that, Bitch! :o) I think that's the real appeal of ZFX tapes for a lot of people; they allow you to live out your secret fantasies and keep out of jail at the same time! I thought BBFans's description was perfect; nice post.

For the most part, none of my friends or colleagues know about my prediliction for bondage/torture videos. Nor do I think they would ever guess.

As for being more intelligent, well, I always think that (don't we all), but it has nothing to do with what my sexual preferences are. Look at it this way -- if you weren't into bondage, but stumbled across this site, you might say "damn, none of these guys can spell/type" (depending upon how harsh you are)and jump to the conclusion that we are all a bunch of illiterate ignoramae. This would also apply to your statement about wanting "revenge" on some girls who mistreated you in high school. Hey, how intelligent a reaction is that, really? I mean, I've had the reaction too, and some of the fantasy, but I don't think it's really very wise or mature of me.

In connection with that, I have to also fall in with (?) jollyman (?) in a sense -- I don't really want to act much of this out. The bondage parts might be okay (along the lines of what our nocturnal friend outlined), but I'm not into hurting anyone, even while I like my fantasies "realistic." Thus, it is both intriguing for me to know a bit about Lisa, 'cause intellectually, I always wonder about the "normalcy" factor, but emotionally, I don't want to know her at all, because I don't really want to hurt people. (Sorry, Lisa, if that sounds impersonal, but I think you know what I mean -- you probably like the idea of having fans, but would be leery of too much personal contact as well, for like reasons.)

Anyway, I ramble. My basic point is that of the Mad Dog -- don't judge, just enjoy. It's one of the great American freedoms.

Peace out.

I won't comment on the Mad Dog/BBFan debate, since my "What if" posts seem to have a tendency to annoy the locals here, but would like to make one observation. It seems that probably every non-super-jock had awkward moments with girls in high school (and after?) who though they were too good to associate with guys like Us (that would be the royal "Us," BTW, just indicating the mass of maleness that we represent). I'm also seeing a common catharsis here, where people sub in this-or-that face on the models being tortured on ZFX.

My idea? Well...Has Rick ever done any of these "Revenge of the Spurned" movies? Maybe a plotline of 3-5 years after high school something happens and the man, who has never forgiven the way that she spurned him/rejected him/broke his heart, etc. hunts down the girl(s) that blew him off in high school or college for some payback? It seems like the crowd here could relate, and maybe get off on it. To my (admittedly off-center) way of thinking, this could be used as the mode of "recruiting" for any number of movies, from Toolbox Abduction to Guinea Pigs style flicks. Imagine the wench that wouldn't give you a kind word in high school squirming in her ropes, dosed up with a super-aphrodesiac and begging for it, or tied up 666-like for some kind of ritual.

Like I said, just an idea. Hell, I'D buy those tapes. Of course, I buy MOST of Rick's tapes, so that's hardly a ringing endorsement. Does anyone else think anything of this?

Peace,

Iago

So what do the rest of you think about ideas for movies? I am sure that we (Meaning the Forum) could come up with some killer ideas. And if there are still any women out there what do you think? (I think we scared all the women away) Anyways, some things for you to think about.

Peace All Mad Dog

Concerning some of the last few topics of discussion. In agreement that the revenge theme has potential. But cannot agree and say that the reason I developed a liking for bondage was because of "the rejections of stuck up bitches in high school". Sure, like everyone else I had my share of the snub, it's all part of growing up and finding your wings (hell!, I'm still finding them).I can even understand why some girls are like that. A couple of years after high school I ended up going out for a while with girl who was on the cheer squad in high school, someone I would have died to go out with back then. Never brought up the subject...just something she decieded to share. Her and a bunch of her friends never went out with anyone from our high school, basically because of the maturity factor (or lack of, in most guys at that age). They saw all too readily that most all guys would tell stories of their sexual conquests...factual or not. They decieded they were not going to give them a chance to tell any tales at all by not going out with them and going out only with older guys (out of high school). I can fully understand. Me?, I never would say anything one way or the other...always thought it was a personal thing and needed to stay that way. And although I got grouped with the rest even though it would not have been the case with me, to say that being rejected was the reason I got into bondage would not be factual. With me, it was more like it was something I was born with, discovering my turn on for bondage at a very early age. I was not exagerating (from an earlier post) that i was getting aroused at age five (while thumbing through a supergirl comic where the bad girls ended up getting tied together). So even though not in my case, I do think the revenge theme has a lot of potential for a video.

Am also in agreement that I like the take downs and stripping onscreen but I do also think that showing a victim totally naked and tied after an abduction scene could be intereasting also. A scene where a victim is abducted where she loses consciousness during the struggle. Where she's out by cloroform or strangled or just knocked out (the later of the three seems too boring to me tough as, like I said, I do like the struggle). she's taken away and the next scene shows her coming to, not really knowing what happened, trying to move and discovering to her horror (initially her by herself as she ponders who has dones this and to what end) that she's not only tied up but naked and vunerable also.

So what do you think? Yeah, nea? Questions, comments? Cheers, lears?

Later...time to bite some necks.

Concerning some of the last few topics of discussion. In agreement that the revenge theme has potential. But cannot agree and say that the reason I developed a liking for bondage was because of "the rejections of stuck up bitches in high school". Sure, like everyone else I had my share of the snub, it's all part of growing up and finding your wings (hell!, I'm still finding them).I can even understand why some girls are like that. A couple of years after high school I ended up going out for a while with girl who was on the cheer squad in high school, someone I would have died to go out with back then. Never brought up the subject...just something she decieded to share. Her and a bunch of her friends never went out with anyone from our high school, basically because of the maturity factor (or lack of, in most guys at that age). They saw all too readily that most all guys would tell stories of their sexual conquests...factual or not. They decieded they were not going to give them a chance to tell any tales at all by not going out with them and going out only with older guys (out of high school). I can fully understand. Me?, I never would say anything one way or the other...always thought it was a personal thing and needed to stay that way. And although I got grouped with the rest even though it would not have been the case with me, to say that being rejected was the reason I got into bondage would not be factual. With me, it was more like it was something I was born with, discovering my turn on for bondage at a very early age. I was not exagerating (from an earlier post) that i was getting aroused at age five (while thumbing through a supergirl comic where the bad girls ended up getting tied together). So even though not in my case, I do think the revenge theme has a lot of potential for a video.

Am also in agreement that I like the take downs and stripping onscreen but I do also think that showing a victim totally naked and tied after an abduction scene could be intereasting also. A scene where a victim is abducted where she loses consciousness during the struggle. Where she's out by cloroform or strangled or just knocked out (the later of the three seems too boring to me tough as, like I said, I do like the struggle). she's taken away and the next scene shows her coming to, not really knowing what happened, trying to move and discovering to her horror (initially her by herself as she ponders who has dones this and to what end) that she's not only tied up but naked and vunerable also.

So what do you think? Yeah, nea? Questions, comments? Cheers, lears?

Later...time to bite some necks.

Ok, this one I can admit to the "revenge" thing as I knew an exotic dancer (too pretentious to call herself a stripper) who would'nt let me watch her preform, saying I would not be able to handle the attention she gets and has to pay to the guys (even though it's all an act and most of them repulse her as she put it...yeaugh, Ok).

OK, guilty after all.