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Rod~I checked out the site that you listed, thinking it was a B-movie
or adult clearinghouse type site. Instead it turned out to be a major
I ended up finding all kinds of music CD's that I want to get (Yes,
I do have other interests). About $300. bucks worth. I hate you man
Ralphus/Rick~Great pics of late...but the damn titles/logos are
covering the best parts!
Wednesday, January 1st 2003 - 09:17:41 PM
AvF - That's my pleasure;-) Cduniverse is in the Amazon / cdnow league...
They have some nice prices on bondage companies / distributors (LBO,
Sunshine/London/Lyndon, Bruce Seven). BUT......no ZFX stuff !!!!
Best wishes (I guess your $300 bill will help). Rod
Thursday, January 2nd 2003 - 03:56:13 AM
Hi Ralphus and all you other pervs out there. I'm a long time lurker
to this site and first I want to express my appreciation to Ralphus
for doing such a bang up job with this site. I also want to thank Rick
for the many hours of viewing pleasure he and his lovely subjects have
given me over the last decade or so. It's been a rollercoaster ride
qualitywise, but for several years, ZFX has the best bondage/torture
production company I ever found and I bought/rented/waded through plenty
of crap from other companies to come to this conclusion.
come not to praise ZFX, but to bury it.... Ralphus, I have read many
of your posts and for the most part (except for the smoking) I believe
we share many of the same tastes when it comes to BDSM fantasy. I think
Insex is going to blow your mind.....far from being a haven for tattooed
freaks (dare I mention that lovely Lisa, Penelope, and many other ZFX
models sport tatoos?) Insex comes up with great article after great
article of gorgeous women being taken to their limit. You will have
access to dozens of movies and thousands of stills.
I have been a BDSM
fan for over thirty years and I have been reading with great interest
the recent postings re: HOM which was THE source for quality BDSM during
the Behr/Cole era. Then came the lean years until Rick got his act together.
Now, Rick's material seems tame and obsolete in comparison to Insex
much in the same way as the B&D pleasures and London videos seemed lame
in comparison with ZFX. Perhaps Rick's time has past. Whaling on a girl
w/ velvet whips and phony electro shock used to do it for me as fantasy
material, but after witnessing the real thing daily and in excellent
quality on the Insex site, I must say the days of waiting impatiently
for Rick to pull together another video are long gone.
Thursday, January 2nd 2003 - 02:33:33 PM
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Well, I got my account with Insex yesterday, as I announced on the board.
I got a three-month deal for $120, which makes the price $39.99 a month,
which is considerably less than the one month at $69 a pop. And I'm
glad I did, because there a HUGE treasure trove of perversity here!
We're talking full-screen photos (hundreds per session) and around 9
mpegs per session, and there are lots of sessions to go through! They
even have it arranged by subject; name your kink, and you can see all
kinds of examples.
So far, my favorite has been a segment with Liz Tyler
(Cowgirl) where they have her tied to a chair, and they put a plastic
bag over her head with a hose attachment for her air. The man says he
found cigarettes in her bag, so he uses her own cig to blow smoke directly
into her bagged face, which makes her cough violently. I know, doesn't
sound like much, but I love forced smoking, I love Liz Tyler, and this
is my thing. After that, a man and a cute chick wire her up with electrodes
and put her though an extremely rough electric shock torture session.
It's obvious that Liz ain't acting; she is in some serious torment!
Later on, they wire her up with a shock device and hold the conductant
directly under her pussy and make her urinate directly onto it, which
sends the voltage through to her! Awesome stuff, and I've only barely
scratched the surface of Insex's catalog. I feel like a kid at Christmastime
Thursday, January 2nd 2003 - 05:32:43 PM
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T-Bone: Thanks for coming out from lurking and adding your comments.
We appreciate them, and this board is for discussion, so let's discuss.
I never said ZFX was the only game in town, and because I had seen
some of Insex's works before, I knew they were doing something special.
Dan Hawke posted recently that he thinks PD at Insex may be raising
the bar as far as these sessions he has these girls go though. I have
to say that I agree; there's some incredible stuff here so far, and
my eyes may never quite fit properly back into their sockets after
seeing all they have to offer.
I guess the fantasy aspect is still what makes me really appreciate
what ZFX offers. Yeah, I know their stuff is fake, but it's realistically
performed illusions and the settings are completely different. Your
average ZFX movie is about innocent girls being raped and tortured
against their will by degenerates who grab them and chloroform them
and use them for their own evil pleasure. Insex, while totally real,
is still ultimately consensual S&M sessions performed in a
dungeon-like setting. Would I want to be PD, in charge of conducting
an S&M scene with one of the Insex girls? Sure, but I'd probably prefer
to be the villain in a ZFX story, breaking into a hot chick's house
and raping her and using her any way I see fit. I don't want her to
consent to my tortures; it's just more fun that way! So again, it's
all a matter of preference, and I totally see why you would favor
Insex in this case, as they are doing some awesome stuff. I intend
to fully enjoy my membership, and I'll look forward to seeing what
ZFX and others have to offer, as well. I'd love to hear what others
think about this.
Thursday, January 2nd 2003 - 06:05:41 PM
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I'm glad you decided to give insex a try. As you can see there is
some incredible stuff there. Especially for someone who has never
been a member before.
Just to clarify pd is absolutely raising the bar. However
at the time I was talking about influence on the field. Right now
pd is something of a shooting star. He has a unique vision and style.
The only judgement of history will be is it a style other producers
can adapt (note I said adapt, not copy) or if he is anomoly. One of
His vision may be too unique for others to riff on. He takes things
so far it may be hard, if not impossible to use his ideas as a jumping
off point for improvisation.
Enjoy the wealth of material of someone who is inventing a new genre
of music. We'll see if any others can learn to do more than ape the
Thursday, January 2nd 2003 - 08:27:25 PM
Did anyone else order some of those videos from forbidden that were
on sale and listed on this forum?? I never got my video, and my credit
card was charged 2 weeks ago. I emailed steve but got no response so
far. This sucks.
Thursday, January 2nd 2003 - 10:03:51 PM
Greetings Ralphus and fellow perv's...First off, I want to praise Ralphus
for having this forum - excellent reviews and info. Second, I just want
to throw my "few cents" into the pot and comment regarding Insex, ZFX,
I agree with you folks, Insex has taken S&M into another facet with
a unique vision and style. Although consensual, the style, setup,
props & scenes are riveting in fantasizing a "hogtied-big-tits-firm-spread-thighs-for-a-dildo-on-a-rod-blonde"
being in a situation non-consensual, whimpering, gagging, grunting,
Anyway, being a bondage/role-play rape kinda guy, ZFX has always
been my fav - the scenerio's are great, babes are tight, and especially
recent releases since SOB3 (IMO), Rick has brought wonderful subjects
who CAN display non-consensual pleading, penetration at both ends
and realistic expressions.
I've been an HOM fan since my college days in the early 80's after
finding an HOM movie review mag for "Tourist Trap". I must have ordered
hundreds of mags and vids from HOM during that time, and always seemed
to have missed one vid/loop, then searched high & low for that particular
clip/vid. The girls were also "tight" (my only expression I can think
of now), firm and sexy.
HOM revealed to me a very realistic view for fantasy - no fake tits
(IMO), no excessive use of garter-belt, lacy thigh-highs, no 6-7 inch
stilleto heels, nor extreme corset-styled underclothing in every clip....just
real blouses and skirts/dress' that seem to look more sexy on these
girls when half ripped, shredded and torn just enough to show their
firm tits and or thighs while spread and tied.
I've seen several of Ricks vids that have these qualities and I
applaud him -and from the pics posted randomly on this forum, I've
enjoyed all of them...keep 'em coming...er...
Starfleet- I had ordered a vid on sale from forbidden soon
after Steve's post and within a week and two days (considering the
holidays), I received it, watched it and enjoyed it. BTW, great forced
BJ scene in Dr. Ruthless - very messy, deep and more non-consenual
than I first thought.....love to see her in another vid maybe kidnapped,
tied, tortured and then raped -she would be excellent (again, IMO).
OK, forgive the rambling...Ralphus, Steve, Dan, Rick, AvF, M-Dog...everyone
have a Happy New Year! Matrix
Friday, January 3rd 2003 - 07:10:07 AM
Matrix, could you tell me how it was sent? Was it by USPS or UPS or
fedex? I wonder if it got sent to the wrong address or something.
Friday, January 3rd 2003 - 12:05:30 PM
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Hey Guys, Steve here from forbiddenvideo. Just read some posts and saw
someone who did not get a video they ordered. Email me and let me know
yoru order# and Ill look up the tracking#. If it was lost Ill send another
ASAP. Trick Or Treat II is now shipping. 2 weeks earlier than planned.
Ralphus should be writing his review soon for that one. ALso, within
3-4 weeks we will be releasing "Coma Ward" with Gauge, and we have two
new titles in the works this month. We will be producing about 12-15
titles this year, so get ready for some cool stuff! Steve
Friday, January 3rd 2003 - 01:39:50 PM
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Should we care how models are treated?
With recent discussions about InSex and Dan Hawkes' work, we're
looking at models placed in increasingly painful bondage situations.
I'm left wondering if we're not allowing the envelope to be pushed
On one hand, I can understand the sentiment that it's not the customer's
problem whether a model was abused during a shoot if she was paid
for her troubles. On the other, our dollars help encourage a certain
type of behavior amongst bondage producers. I've heard that Tyler
Scott's breasts were physically burned during an InSex electric torture
shoot. There's a difference between a model consenting for a bondage
shoot and being taken beyond her limits. There have been many instances,
even with longtime bondage producers of models being left in stringent
bondage longer than she should have while the photographer continues
snapping photos and shooting video because they spent so long putting
her in such a tortuous situation. To me, if a model is literally crying
in pain, it's time to cut her loose.
I love to see a model look as if she's in dire distress. Some models
can act the part magnificently--others don't do as good a job. I'd
rather get an acted look of pain than a real one. Much of the time,
the acting is much more dramatic. A model, in severe pain, might internalize
her discomfort so that the performance is very wooden. I'm not interested
in seeing that kind of performance. I want histrionics. I want the
model to look as if she's fighting for her life. Sometimes I get that
performance and that's when I'm really thrilled with the results.
Saturday, January 4th 2003 - 09:24:26 AM
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Happy New Year to ALL!
Just wanted to pop my head in and wish everyone a safe and happy
New Year. Got a lot of exciting stuff in the works, the sequel (and
probable finale) of the South of the Border series has been shot with
Ms Payton. We really did some incredible stuff, shes a tuff gal and
did a great job. Also working on the of modern day version of Bitter
Sweet Revenge I mentioned in an earlier post. The working title is
Bitter Sweet 2000 but that could change. The story is actually quite
a bit different, but it was kind of my inspiration for this thing
and it has some very BSR esque imagery (think manequins)=) Im also
starting the massive conversion to DVD, with True Detective and Maximum
Desade being available on DVD by mid month. Check the site for availability.
Fantasy vs. Reality:T bone, I wouldnt start shoveling just yet=)
Everyones entitled to their opinion and just to prove it, I'll give
you mine. Personally, I find reality based product rather limiting
as a videographer, an artist and even as a consumer of pornography.
Not saying its all bad, its just in the quest to be real, it often
cant go as far as Id like things to go in certain ways. A lot of potential
ways to torture come off the table when you tie yourself to reality.
The slave master thing doesnt really appeal either, I like torture
with a purpose other than just its own end, and the victims unwilling.
Neither of these themes are frequented in scene play. The up side
to this type of material is its a fairly genuine event, kinda like
Fear Factor. It has that same sadistic appeal. While I enjoy this
kinda stuff, thats not really where my head is at.
In fantasy, you can do anything, and I guess I like to be able to
fully exploit anything I can think of rather than have to bend to
physical limits, even if those limits may be high. Sure, it's just
an illusion, but illusions are often the only way these images can
be presented. ZFX will never be about showing you what can be done
in reality, but rather focused on things and situations that for practical,
or ethical reasons (or because its just plain impossible), cant be
done in real life. I want to be as fucked up as I can be (within certain
limits of the law) and I'm not gonna let something like reality get
in my way...The point I'm getting at is if I want to (on tape) strangle
some hot chick unconscious till she pisses herself, stick a 15 inch
dildo down her hole and tape it in for a gag, put a couple Marlboros
out on her clit,then inject her with Drano and fuck her in the ass
with a splintered 2x4, that would be kinda hard to do in reality without
getting yourself in a heap of trouble.
Also, to subject another person
to that level of abuse would be just plain WRONG, criminal. You have
just seen a short list of the many things you will not see at Insex
or any other reality based bondage purveyors. The whole purpose of
ZFX is to show things too horrendous to be carried out in real life.
Comparing ZFX to reality based material is like comparing apples and
oranges. Similar but different. Its 2 similar but divergent trains
of thought. Companies like Forbidden or EW are more in line with ZFX
and where my interests sit. Bottom line, people like what they like,
if your into harsh scene play, by all means go for the Insex. But
if your looking for something maybe a bit darker, a bit farther off
the beaten path, come on over=).
INSEX and Dan: Theres no doubt they do a nice job, but is PD Yoda
like Dans sayin? NO, because I'M Yoda dammit! He can be Darth Vader
and Dan, you can be....Chewbaca. Steve your Hans Solo and Ralphus...uh...C3PO,
Mad Dog , your R2 D2. Everyone else, just grab a character:P Then
we go find Princess Leia....we could turn MadDog into a torture bot....muhahaha!
Seriously though, I think Insex has mad skills, so does Dan for that
matter, as far as demented torture, tight bondage and stuff. Moving
the bar? Maybe for the lifestyle crowd, but for me I just do what
I do. I set my own goals. Insex really reminds me of the movie Videodrome,
I think thats the feel hes going for and it works, but it doesnt fulfill
all the things I need either. I can at least enjoy the stuff to a
large degree, its damned interesting to watch, which is more than
I can say for most lifestyle stuff like Bizarre (ack!).
As far as collaboration, sending models over to Insex, the models
that work for me are not lifestyle, they are workaday powder puff
hotties or strippers and just not into heavy scene play. To work at
ZFX you dont have to be that tuff, just willing=)The girls at Insex
LIKE IT, and this is one of the aspects that I dont care for about
RR comments:I agree with your points, and being a big softy myself,
I really dont like to see a model in real pain. You've got to respect
limits if your going to do this shit, and if you dont eventually it
will be your downfall.
Of course, all this shit is just my personal taste, opinions etc.,
take it for what its worth;)
Ok, enough chit chat, back to the pit....Happy 2003!
Saturday, January 4th 2003 - 01:46:06 PM
Rick, R2D2???? I can see your new years resoulution
was to smoke more Ganja, just kidding.
RR, one thing to condsider with the models and pain
is that if you want longevity out of your models, they need to be trated
all right. I dont care how much money there is, if the women are taking
a beating literally and getting scarred from doing the shoots, they
wont be doing it for long. How long do you do think Ms. Kinkaid would
have been doing it if Rick was a total ass hole, OK I mean more than
normal (just kidding, It is just pick on Rick day today, so I am getting
all my moneys worth). Bottom line is that if you treat the model worth
shit they wont stay around, and they will also spread the word making
it harder for you to find new models, unless you have a huge budget.
But I think you can get more out a model over time than you can get
on the quick turnaround. Not to mention the possible legal trouble you
can get into.
Just my one cent worth
Saturday, January 4th 2003 - 02:26:01 PM
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My two cents
I agree with Rick in the comparison being like apples to oranges.
Give me fantasy anytime! Like I just posted recently about Jay Edwards
and Bryan Davis' videos, I have a couple for a few choice scenes....but
nothing to keep my interest for the long haul. Give me non-consensual
fantasy over real life consensuality anytime. It's the same thing.
There will be things that will catch my eye.....but in the end, no
matter how severe, it still is consensual bondage for bondage sake/torture
for torture sake. In fantasy, those elements are a means to an end...whatever
that end may turn out to be.
I think Rick touched on the key here though when he mentioned "Fear
Factor". Fear Factor equating to reality bondage/torture scenarios
as opposed to fantasy, which equates to the ZFX's/Forbidden's/EWP.
Even though I like watching Fear Factor I watch it for basic entertainment.
In other words, I would never pay to watch it as opposed to going
to the theatre to indulge in a fantasy and get swept away by it.
Fantasy/storied themes are a whole less likely to get the fast forward
Saturday, January 4th 2003 - 09:49:27 PM
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Hey just a quick question I'm curious about. How important are spreads
in everyones criteria? And when I say spreads, I mean spread vaginal
shots looking into a woman's pussy. I've never really liked them myself
but with the envelope getting pushed more and more, as the recent discussion
illustrates, I see more and more scenes in which the pussy lips are
pulled apart and held wide and spread with clothes pins, tape, mousetraps,
ect. This is just a personal dislike for me, so I'm not putting down
anyone's work. I personally just get off on the fantasy and really don't
care to see the victim in such intimate detail.
Just curious to see what everyone else thinks on this.
Saturday, January 4th 2003 - 10:05:12 PM
Happy New Years citizens of Gimptopia!
AvF: To me, context of the spread is everything. For the views alone,
there is enough in vanilla porn for hundreds of life times. But for
those of like tastes to mine, a spread shot can cap a series of humiliations
perfectly. Take for example, Kelly McKay in SOB-IV, (yes I've talked
about that movie too much, but the example fits perfectly), after
a serious stretch of brutal naked captivity that starts in SOB-III,
her scenes in IV are climaxed with her wide open whipping at the end
of the movie (I think Mad Dog had the honors!). It was that last removal
of any shred of dignity that made it fascinating... And the view was
lovely as ever.
Sunday, January 5th 2003 - 01:02:25 PM
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FORBIDDEN VIDEO REVIEW: "TRICK OR TREAT 2: THE
Trick or Treat 2: The Pack Mule
is a name-only sequel to Forbidden Video's earlier release, and that's
a good thing because this one is much better. It stars a newcomer
named Dynamite, who is a newspaper reporter investigating a drug ring
that's operating in her neighborhood, where men are making a fortune
manufacturing crack. She comes up with a plan. Since this is Halloween
night, and since she's only 4 foot 10, she can put on a mask and disguise
herself as a child and hopefully gain access into the crack house.
Pretty clever idea, huh?
So that night, she rings their doorbell and lies to the two men
inside, saying that her older sister got hold of some bad candy, ripped
off all her clothes and is running down the street naked. Well, naturally,
the men immediately dash off into the night to go look for her, leaving
their door open for Dynamite to sneak inside. The ambitious reporter
then investigates the house, using her video camera to film all the
illegal activity. It's not long before the men return and catch her
in the act, and Dynamite is in some serious trouble. The tiny reporter
is no match for these two burly thugs.
They interrogate her on the couch, trying to get information out
of her while sticking a gun in her mouth as they go through her things.
When they discover a knife in her bag, they decide to cut off her
costume and take a look at what they've got. After a stripping and
some excellent verbal threatening, the men go to work on her, using
their fingers to violate her ass and pussy.
Dynamite is keeping quiet about who she is, so the men decide that
they'll just have fuck it out of her! One of the men holds her while
she's forced to suck the dick of the other man, all the while berating
her with more nasty (and often hilarious) abuse and threats. They
flip her over and make her suck the other man while she's pounded
from behind. Then as she's being fucked again, the other man grabs
her by the neck and chokes her into unconsciousness.
With her passed out, the men decide to have some more fun with her.
They take her out to the garage and tie her in a seated position,
with her legs bound far apart to a spreader bar and her hands tied
in front to her knees. They raise her legs off the ground and prepare
her for some electric shock torture. Taping the wires of a battery
charger onto her nipples, they plug the cord into a socket and give
her several long jolts, causing her body to shake violently. Then
they improve her appearance by gagging her mouth with duct tape and
add clothespins to her pussy lips, taping them open with more electrician's
tape. After they turn off the juice, they penetrate her pussy with
a dildo, working it around inside while laughing and berating her.
Then the abuse continues, as the poor girl has her ass violated
by the dildo while the other man decorates her body with more clothespins,
adding them all over her body, including on her nose. He threatens
her with his burning cigarette before removing the tape from her mouth
and allowing her to speak, and she pleads, cries and finally confesses
who she is. After that, they stick the tape back on her mouth and
treat themselves to a taste of her pussy, while she moans passionately
through her gag.
The men decide that the nosy reporter can help them smuggle their
drugs out of the country if they fill up every orifice of her body
with vials of coke. But to do that, they'll have to stretch out all
her holes, and what better way than a good forced fucking?
They cut her down and lay her out face down on the floor, her legs
still forced wide apart by the spreader bar, with her asshole open
and available. They untie her hands and force her to suck one man
while the other fucks her from behind, cumming on her ass. They turn
her over on her back and the other man rapes her pussy while the first
man holds her down. Then the action moves over to the couch while
he packs her from behind. He cums inside her, so we don't see an actual
Now to make her a "pack mule". They take her to the kitchen and
bend her over the table, and proceed to shove several vials of coke
up her pussy and ass, although it's clearly an illusion and she's
not really taking all that inside her small little body. Anyway, she
spies a gun left on the table and uses that to kill both men, which
they deserved for not having tied her up in this scene. She then leaves
and proceeds to get dressed (what, leaving all that dope stuffed up
inside her?), vowing to write a killer story. Fade to black.
This is one of Forbidden's most successful efforts, finally combining
a good story with hardcore sex and bondage and even torture this time,
an element that's been mostly missing from their work. The reason
this tape works so well, besides the subject matter, is that both
men, played by Dick Tracy and Marty Romano, give excellent performances,
really punching up the fear and intensity of the situation. By contrast,
Dynamite, who was the second choice in the role after Forbidden's
most popular star, Gauge, backed out, gives a much more retrained
performance as the victim. Petite, blonde, and with a slightly trashier
look than the beauteous Gauge (as well as a small tattoo on her side)
starts off very quiet, before finally putting on a little more vocal
show as the tape moves on. Strangely enough, it's after her mouth
gets taped that she finally starts squealing, because there was little
need to gag her before then. I would have preferred to see what Gauge
would do in this same role, but it's a small quibble. This one works
from start to finish, with moments of greatness along the way. My
Sunday, January 5th 2003 - 01:22:26 PM
Hey I love the stills you've been posting from SOB. That's one of my
favorite things, when a woman's bra is left on like that and her shirt
just pulled up...something more erotic than just being totally naked.
Sunday, January 5th 2003 - 11:39:12 PM
Sorry to be posting this here, but I don't know any other way! Steve!
I sent you 2 emails but I never heard from you about my order. here
is my order # Order ID: 1521870 Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2002.
Sunday, January 5th 2003 - 11:41:28 PM
Thanks to Ralphus and Rick and everyone else who responded to my recent
Rick, I am glad you took no serious offense to my comments. I'll
put my shovel away... ;) You are my all time favorite pornographer.
No one else is even in the ballpark. I have rented or owned every
ZFX title except for Peril Age and SOB 6 and I'm sure I'll get to
SOB 6 as soon as the video store gets it in.
As with most of the posters on this board, non consensual torture
and rape (with the emphasis on torture) was what drew me to ZFX in
the first place. Rick and his stable of wonderful models were willing
to go further and depict more sadistically evil scenes than anyone
else in the business. I would say that Rick raised the bar considerably
with his vision of non consensual B&D. I bought into it big time.
But getting back to the apples and oranges comparisons between Insex
and Zfx, metaphorically speaking, they're both fruit. It's subjective--everyone
has their preferences and I never thought I'd be espousing a consensual
BDSM product over a non-consensual product. But the point I was trying
to make re: Insex, is that the bondage and torture is so rough, raw
and intense, it is a small leap of imagination to look at these scenes
as non-consensual fantasy in the same way we look at ZFX-- as we all
know Lisa is consenting to whatever Rick has planned for her. I make
up a plot in my mind (as I also do w/ ZFX movies) and go from there.
My most erotic BDSM fantasies usually have to do w/ Interrogation
(BTW, the stills for SOB6 look incredible) and seeing a strong, defiant
woman slowly being broken despite her best efforts to resist is irresistable
to me. The way Insex & PD do it has raised the bar to new heights.
And even though they do things to the models I have only previously
seen in the drawings of DeMulatto and Pachard, they are extremely
concerned w/ model safety as has been testified to by the models themselves
in the Insex forums. If I thought otherwise, there could be no way
I could participate in such a site.
But to get to the point of these ramblings, I challenge the artist
in Rick to keep striving to bring your visions to life with more realistic
treatment of your victims. Possibly Dan Hawke could refer some of
his cuties who can act a bit and are willing to submit to some harsh
treatment-- in fact it would be a great collaboration if you & Dan
could work together as you both have strengths and weaknesses in your
presentations. With you directing, filming, editing, and acting out
the part of the evil mastermind and with Dan doing the bondage and
torture, I believe the bar could be raised once again. B&D history
could be made. (and a few bucks!)
I realize these are the ramblings of an out of the loop fan, but
we can dream, can't we?
Monday, January 6th 2003 - 11:56:44 AM
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Hey Ralphus, thanks for the great review! Coma Ward is next in line
within 2-3 weeks. Also, Starfleet..I just emailed you. Your DVD was
delivered on December 20th by UPS and signed for by YOU! Your tracking#
was emailed to you so you can track it at ups.com. I've had trouble
posting to this board lately, so this is why I have not posted recently.
Thanks! Steve forbiddenvideo.com
Monday, January 6th 2003 - 12:08:51 PM
"..With you directing, filming, editing, and acting out the part of
the evil mastermind and with Dan doing the bondage and torture, I believe
the bar could be raised once again"
Another option for a possible Insex/ZFX collaboration as well maybe?
Like in not "sending over " ZFX models to Insex but other way around?
Could be interesting as well as far as fantasy/reality mix goes.
Monday, January 6th 2003 - 04:01:13 PM
Hey Steve at Forbidden. When are you going to release the uncut DVD
of Open House???
I just ordered Trick or Treat II on the strength of the review Ralphus
posted, but I am waiting for the uncut version of Open House.
By the way, Forbidden and Bizarro have always provided me with excellent
customer service. I have ordered from both many times, and would not
hesitate to do so again. There have been a couple of times when my
order was not quite what I had expected, and you have always gone
the extra mile to fix the situation and make me a very happy customer.
Tuesday, January 7th 2003 - 12:07:53 AM
Hey guys, Steve did ship it to me. Somehow I didn't actually get it,
but its not his fault. Someone at my house signed for it, and somehow
it got lost. Probably in all the christmas stuff...damn, I'm really
at a loss as to where it went. But I know I didn't sign for it cause
I'm never home during the day.
Tuesday, January 7th 2003 - 04:27:25 PM
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Well, I hate to gloat, but this seems to be agreat year sofar. I've
done one Bondage Photo shoot so far and am packing now to go to Bondcon
(Las Vegas). You can see some samples of my photos (I'm just starting
out) at my MSN group. Will let you know how BondCon was. Viva Las Vegas!!
Tuesday, January 7th 2003 - 08:25:16 PM
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Rick: Your last post about doing the impossible stuff- gets me to thinking
again... Please email me & I'll tell you what I have in mind. I spend
most of my spare time figuring out how to create the illusion of impossible,
Especially if it is in the ZFX definition of impossible. Special
effects is an obsession with me... Later -Xenonex
Wednesday, January 8th 2003 - 01:51:37 AM
Hmmmmm, a collaboration.....
GONZO OVERPRODUCTIONS PRESENTS
TEN FOR TORMENT!!
Directed by: Rick Masters
Camera and Lighting: B&D Pleasures
Bondage Rigging: Dan Hawke
Costumes: Gwen Media
Sara St James
Flame (that cute redhead)
Kim Bittner (Michelle Bauer)
Ten lovely girls think they are the finalists for a beauty contest.
Little to they know they are in for an evening of toment and mayhem!
Of course we would need a time machine to get some of these models
when they were in their time. But I did try to pick models that I
think put on a good performance at one time or another or that I find
to be especially hot!.
The collaboration idea intrigues me and I want to take a moment to
say why. I've sampled a LOT of bondage films from a variety of producers.
While each have moments, I think each also DESPARATELY needs to take
advantage of what some of the other do better. For example. B&D pleasures
have been making lots of movies as of late such as Drug Traffickers
and Knifepoint. The lighting and the sets for these are VERY well
done - professional grade IMHO. And the models do seem to try to sell
the scenes. But their bondage rigger is a moron. Much of the time
the models look more like they are acting as though they are tied
up. Rope just fall off. A spreader bar comes loose. At a few points,
I even began to wonder about the models safety!! This is a bondage
film! I'm supposed to be thinking the oposite.
Now let's take a look at our own ZFX and Rick.
ZFX is hit and miss for me because I dislike gags and I don't go for
scenes where there are all kinds of crap taped to a model. But I realize
these are stylistic differences. I still think ZFX could benefit a
LOT from better lighting. I loved Phallicide and Ballista 3, and yet
I think the dark and dreary lighting that Rick is going for detracts
from the oveall look. Everything seems a bit grainy and monochromatic
to me. I have read earlier that Rick is going for a 'realistic' look.
Perhaps he fears the bleached look of the newer HOM stuff. Well, I
am certainly not an expert on lighting. I can only say that I agree
that the newer HOM stuff does lacks a dramatic feel. But the stuff
from B&DPleasures does not. I think their lighting style still allows
for a dramatic scene while still being crisp and clear.
While I'm on my soap box, and while I have a chance of catching Dan-Hawke's
ear, I need to say a few things regarding Dan's work. Dan? Are you
sitting down? Well siddown my friend. You do very good work. I can
get behind your attitude of trying to capture the good parts, of pushing
a model's limits, but what the heck are you doing IN the film? You
modeling days are over bud. Someone has to tell you this, man. I think
your work would improve a hundredfold if you would train yourself
a cute assistant to help out during a shoot. Bondage models make GREAT
bondage riggers. As the writer/producer/directer you have more than
enough on your plate anyway. I think we would all rather see another
hottie tightening the clamps and wielding the whip than you. Sorry,
don't take it personally.
Well that's all I have for now.
Wednesday, January 8th 2003 - 10:39:50 AM
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Catching up on a few things...
AvF: Not much response to your pussy spread comment, but
personally, I like to see a female victim with her pussy open and
spread apart with clamps. Number one, it's probably pretty painful,
which is a good thing :) Number two, I agree with g-in-o in that it's
humiliating for her to be all bound, naked and have her most private
region opened up for all to see, and do with what they please! They
just did that to Dynamite in Trick or Treat 2, as I mentioned
in my review. Unfortunately, they took the clothespins off before
they molested her pussy with the dildo, but it was still cool. I wish
they had fucked her in that position! It was a perfect opportunity,
and I'll bet that would have hurt even more, being raped with your
pussy lips clamped apart. Well, maybe next time...
Gonzo: I thought you were making some good points, until
you said you don't like gags. Don't like gags??? Man, gags are essential!
At least, in my way of thinking. If you've got a girl held prisoner,
you have to silence her, or at least muffle her screams while you
do stuff to her. I could make a long dissertation about why gags are
important, but I'll hold off and let others chime in if they wish.
Also, I think Dan Hawke does a great job on camera. He says all
the right things I would say if I were in that spot, and he's just
mean and dominating enough to be believable. Would I want to see a
young cutie wielding the whip instead? No way! Young cuties should
be the ones tied; they should not be the ones dishing out the
punishment. It's unnatural in my book. Women are victims, men make
the best villains. Now if you do a guy and his girlfriend torturing
another girl (maybe she's loyal to her boyfriend or getting her revenge
against the girl for some reason), I kinda like that scenario, but
the man should still be the one calling the shots. I'm just an old-fashioned
kind of guy, I guess. Old fashioned values. It's a theme that's worked
for ages, so why change it?
Wednesday, January 8th 2003 - 12:05:33 PM
I know that I am an oucast for not liking gags - That most folks
will insist that if she is not gagged, then it's not bondage. And
the truth is that in many cases (LK in Ballista3) the gag works. Can
I assign homework here? Check out "She Screams" with Roxanne Hall
and John Decker by London Video. Skip to the middle, where RH is hung
upside down. That warbling/keening sound she is making is music to
my ears. It's one heck of an intense scene. And I think that gagging
her would tone down the intensity. And while we are here, how about
John Decker as a villian? I just don't see the menacing attitude in
Wednesday, January 8th 2003 - 02:24:10 PM
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She Screams, huh? I did a Google search for it. Roxanne Hall
is a babe, and I do like upside-down suspension, so I'm intrigued. What
else happens in the tape?
I know what you mean about screaming being a turn on. I was watching
one of the Insex shows late last night where this chick was tied to
a huge sink and he was giving her electric shock. She had one of those
ring gags on, which doesn't really muffle the sound, only makes it
hard to form words. Anyway, she was wailing so loud that I was seriously
worried that my neighbors were going to start knocking on my door
to see what I doing to whoever I had locked up in my home! I had to
turn the sound down a bit, but I was having a great time laughing
at all the noise she was making.
But that sort of proves my point.
Unless you're in some deserted warehouse or can be assured no one
will hear her, you've just got to gag her to shut her up. Plus that,
I love to hear muffled moans and screams through a gagged girl's mouth.
It enhances the helplessness of her bondage. She can't move her hands,
so she can't free herself. She can't even scream for help, because
you've taken care of that part, too. She's totally at your mercy (evil
Wednesday, January 8th 2003 - 04:09:27 PM
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Spreads~I kinda thought I was the minority on this one...was just curious.
Gonzo~I really like Roxanne Hall also...but it's a London video...how
good can it be?
Alex Dane is one of my favorites who's starred in a few London videos,
but I've learned to avoid London like the plague...unless you like
weak acting and laughable torture scenarios. One's in which a whipping
is applied with so little force that it couldn't even break through
a sheet of tissue, or suspensions in which it's obvious wide strappings
are used for comfort, or a pizza cutting wheel is rolled over the
skin so lightly that it dosent even leave a mark, as a few examples.
So even though I really think Alex Dane is HOT!, I've never seen her
in any bondage vids because I know I'll just get frustrated.
Wednesday, January 8th 2003 - 10:39:27 PM
I know how we all feel, and for the most part, that feeling is justified.
I happen to feel that there are a few diamonds in the rough though,
and She Screams is one of them. It's about a dude, John Decker, that
gets off on hearing women scream. There are three segments. The first
is a typical, boring scene where Nicolette is tied up and whipped.
She manages to wake up and moan a bit near the end. The last scene
is with Mila, who seems to feel that growling will turn us on. Neither
of these are worth watching at all. But the middle scene has shelbee
and Roxanne hall exploring a dungeon. John captures them both to a
rotating platform. He is good an menacing and the takedown scene almost
works. The good part comes a bit later when Roxanne is hung from her
ankles, her hands are free. John canes her while holding a vibrater
to her pussy. So to some extent, she might be having some sort of
orgasm. The fact is that she goes apeshit. The best thing about London/Hom
DVDs is that they are dirt cheap
For $10, The scene is worth it
I dig Alex Dane too. If you have not already seen it, check her out
Again, most of the tape stinks, but Alex is pretty hot looking in
that bodysuit, and she really tries to sell the scene. I like her
screaming in this one too. Despite how funny looking Greta Carlson
has become, she does seem to be willing to hit hard.
As an honorable mention, if you're gonna get these, you may as well
At this point, I think you have the most intensity you are ever going
to get out of London/Hom
P.S. My all time favorite screaming torture scene. Well shot, super
hot actress, dramatic music, menacing villain. It's a rack scene with
If only ALL bondage acresses could sell a scene this well.
Thursday, January 9th 2003 - 10:34:09 AM
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Wow, lots of posts to catch up on!
I don't know if it's fair to wade in on the
pussy spread/not spread issue. As a producer it's pretty obvious I
am fond of those spread shots. Part of it is just a fascination at
seeing something so forbidden. Most of us don't even get to do that
kind of study with our lovers. And for that reason, that it is so
intensely private, that it is also feels like a real violation of
the model; and therefore very humiliating.
I thank Ralphus for supporting me on camera.
I did consciously decide on this persona way back when. I am not a
competent enough actor to put over any elaborate character. Also,
to my mind, if you have a woman in the kind of bondage I enjoy, do
you really need to shout in her face? I mean, she is totally controlled.
I think there is something almost menacing in sounding kind of reasonable.
Still, I must say I cringe sometimes watching
myself on camera as I edit the vids. I am actually toying with moving
behind the camera a bit. There are a many reasons for this. As Gonzo
points out I am not actually model material... But as I often say,
if you are looking at me too close you are focusing on the wrong things!!!
;) Still I have someone who has been helping me a bit and I am probably
going to let him do at least some in front of the camera stuff (I
can't give up all the fun!).
I do have a lot to do, the rigging the directing
and a fair amount of the camera work. Shoots are a lot to handle to
also appear in the film as well. I think I will get better stuff,
have more control over continuity and be able to push some creative
boundaries by trying this. Of course I have a lot of material in the
can so who knows when you'll see the effects of this decision.
But notice, I said bring in a guy. One of the
things I liked about Rick's tapes when I found them, probably the
main thing, was that the doer was a guy. At that time pretty much
everything involved in the retail channel showed girl dom girl bondage
scenarios. Some of these were OK (only a very few), but I had a hard
time putting myself into the fantasies, that's for sure.
I have done a couple scenes you will eventually
see where one model torments another, but these scenes almost always
end with me coming in and threatening the tormentor model for exceeding
her authority and playing with my "toys". Thus, her time on top is
limited -- and punished.
As to collaborations....
It's hard to see that happening, for a lot
First, it's a problem of money. If you have
two or three producers working on a project how do you divvy up the
money? Especially if you were going to do collaborations on an ongoing
Another reason is that people work with the
same models because they have a give and take rapport with them. I
tend to work with models not just because they are gorgeous and have
a great body, but because they and I are comfortable together. Most
models will give any reputable producer a chance, but the chemistry
they develop with one producer may not be shared with another. Anytime
you change the people mix, anything can happen.
Finally there is ego. Anyone doing this work
thinks they are pretty damn good. This isn't just narcissism. To do
something creative you need to be sure of yourself while creating.
As time goes on you'll develop a thicker hide, but you gotta have
unerring faith in yourself. Mixing multiple producers on a single
project could get kinda iffy.
Ego is not a problem when you are working with
an assistant -- you know you are still the boss. But many producers
together? Well... when they talk about "creative differences" in Hollywood,
picture a shouting match with a fistfight possible... ;)
And these are just some of the obstacles. There
is physical distance, travel costs, lodging, working out a script/theme,
personal working styles and tastes, etc.
Still, you never know what might happen sometime.
Early on I wouldn't have even considered a collaboration, but I have
mellowed somewhat and now find the idea intriguing, but even so, not
one I would consider initiating.
Finally I found Rick's response to my insex
comments pretty interesting. pd clearly is working along the same
dimensions as I am. He is way out there on the edge, but philosophically
we are along a similar continuum. So yeah, he may well be my yoda.
But there is definitely a market for all different styles, as long
as the stuff is done well by folks who truly have a feel for it. Save
us all from those guys who get into this thinking they are gonna be
So kudos to Rick as well. As I said above,
before he came along I was despairing we would never see a man tie
up a woman on film again!!!
Thursday, January 9th 2003 - 05:34:06 PM
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Gonzo~Thanks for the expansion on "She Screams". And the additional
info on the other vids. Yeaugh I guess there are exception for everything...and
for $10.00 maybe worth checking out one or two.
As for your time warp video scenario ( I say time warp in reference
to your catching of the actresses in their prime )maybe someday they
CAN all be in one...with the continual advancment of computer generation.
The one's mentioned and then some. There are a couple of mainstream's
that have done B&D that I think would fit nicely into such a script.
Nikki Dial, Kelly O'Dell to name just a couple.
I'm curious to your mention of Felicia though. Was she just thrown
in as someone that fits the part or is there a B&D vid or two that
she's been in that I don't know about. Felicia would be the perfect
fit for any extreme video. She's got the perfect body, she's cute,
and the fact that she only does scenes with women just cries out as
someone for a gang rape scene.
Let us know.
Thursday, January 9th 2003 - 09:45:37 PM
Gonzo /AvF/Things Ain't What they Used To Be dept ;-) It's nice to read
that someone else was interested in Speak No Evil (see my Dec 16th post
below). I'll take a look at the other suggested titles. By the way,
Globalflixx.com has even lower prices for dvds distributed by Sunshine
Does anybody know why the HOM/London/LBO videos of "today" are women-on-women
Just out of curiosity (...) do you know what may lead a distributor,
say Sunshine, to re-release this and not that : why did they release
only a few of 80's HOM films (Special Request#1, Dr.Ruthless, the
Bondage Classics series, what else) while at the same time they're
releasing each and every video that was produced by London in the
Friday, January 10th 2003 - 10:14:31 AM
Hey to all,
I usually just troll this forum and have not posted much, but I'm
really enjoying this sharing of ideas and tastes. In particular the
fact that this forum exhibits little to none of the usual spamming/trolling/flaming
that is seen on most forums. Probably this is why we are blessed with
the presence of a few of the actual directors.
I want to take a moment to clarify a few comments regarding Dan's
stuff. I bought 3 DH tapes used on ebay well over a year ago. I liked
them, but for me they were real borderline as to whether they were
keepers or not. I commented earlier based upon my opinion of those
tapes (too lazy to go to the site and dig up which ones). Around New
Years, I got curious and ordered some more on DVD as I am switching
my whole collection to DVD. A few days later, I check out this forum
and post. I comment on DH stuff I saw a while ago, half forgetting
that I have new stuff on the way. Yesterday, I finally got DH25 Beauty
bound and DH32 Bondage Rave.
The model in DH25 has that wonderful girl-next-door quality that
we all know and love so much. While I found the the chair tie and
the horse ride to be a bit dull, there is a scene in the middle where
she is bound on her knees and begins to cry. THAT's what I am looking
for, a real lady in distress. It's a well done scene that really grabs
you. DH32 is an even better achievement. At the risk, nay certainty
of sounding like I'm sucking up to Dan, this vid is a must see. Dan
is still in the vid, but nearly as obtrusively as his others. Near
the end, the model is given a bondage shower, with her hands tightly
tied behind her back. Never seen anything like it. If only your vids
were cheaper :(
Felicia does a number of Bruce Seven bondage vids. She can take a
heck of a beating. Of particular interest might be Felicia's Folly,
in which I'm pretty sure she takes an inverted whipping (I like em
I'm gonna brag just a bit here. I was lucky enough to have a BDSM
session with Star Chandler. This very subject came up. I think it
is worth talking about for a moment because I think it touches upon
this fake/real. Having never met me, Star asked if I would consider
allowing another member of the house to take over the heavier whipping.
The alternative was that I would have to keep it very light and easy,
over the course of a few sessions, before she felt comfortable enough.
You will notice that not only are most of the London/Hom tops women,
but that they are all the same women - Star, Alexis Payne, Olivia
Outre, Arianna. A porn star makes money off her body. Getting marked
can really screw things up as you may have to postpone a shoot, or
worse, explain a mark you didn't realize you had. Since, as you mentioned,
London/Hom manage to sign a number of well know stars, I think it's
easier for them to trust another women who they know is experienced
and can be trusted.
I also was lucky enough to have a session with
Lauren Haze, who is a sub with a gorgeous ass in the Bruce Seven vid,
'Crazy Times.' When I mentioned that I had seen her in this movie,
she rolled her eyes and seemed to get a bit pissed off. Apparantly
she got marked up by Bruce and his cronies, a lot more than she was
led to expect, and could not work or see much of her boyfriend for
a week as a result. If AvF does decide to check out Ultradom, you
will see that Greta Carlson, quite incompetently, makes a nasty looking
mark on Alex Dane's thigh. You can decide for yourself if this is
a bug or a 'feature'.
I would guess that all bondage producers have to do some serious
negotiation with their models. And there are two possible routes that
can be taken. You can fake the sounds and the action as Rick does
or you can be real, but extremely careful as DH does. To be totally
honest, I really dig Rick's whipping scenes. I know the sounds are
faked, but it sure makes for a lot more action and drama. You can
count on a whipping scene in a ZFX video to be as intense as special
effects can allow.
While I did like DH32, you may notice that the
online descriptions tout that this has one of the most intense whipping
scenes in any of DH's stuff. Sorry folks, but while the bondage and
restaint is top notch, the whipping scenes are quite tame. Star Chandler,
fed up with the crappy lighting of HOM, the lack of action and crappy
rigging of LBO, set out to make her own line of videos. Check out
Missy's whipping in Vicious Attack if you wanna see a beautiful blond
get seriously worked over.
If anyone would like to post their list of intense whipping, I'd
love to see it.
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Gonzo my man:
I'm pretty proud of the flogging in DH32. I think if the model is
crying uncontrollable tears, real sweat is streaming from her armpits
and snot is dripping from her nose -- that's the best I can do.
At least without marking the model for several days.
I may have some floggings a little harsher and I definitely have
some that are softer. But this is probably in my 80th to 85th percentile.
So if this is a light flogging then you probably won't like any of
Which is OK. Your the customer.
Saturday, January 11th 2003 - 12:10:57 AM
Gonzo: You are right about "She Screams" that last upside down scene
definatly crossed a line to something out of the ordinary. A rarity
I once met Felicia, who was touring strip clubs. This was before
I discovered the Gimp board so I was not able to tell her that her
name has come up a number of times as prime ZFX material (once even
by Rick himself, as I recall). She did get a work out on some of the
Bruce-7 films, (Bruce-7 films had insipid plots, but every so often
something interesting would happen). Another Bruce-7 player I really
liked was Carina Collins (sometimes called Caysee) she really seemed
into taking a beating. I'm normally not that into portrails of consensual
whippings, but she seemed to take things to another level. She also
did a pretty insense girl/girl scene with Felicia in one of the (usually
mundane) "Beyond Driven" films by Bruce-7. Felicia also did one of
the "Violation of..." lesbo gang bang films. I had high hopes, but
was not impressed.
A good whipping scene to watch out for: A movie called "The Punishment
of Anne" from the mid-1970's. There are a number of interesting scenes,
but the final torture then whipping scene is a real keeper. In it,
"Anne" is whipped (in a scream filled scene that) actually quiets
down at the end as she seems to be in a state of semi-or altered consiousness.
It has to be seen to believed. The film has just come out on DVD with
a new title "The Image" and is actually availiable on Amazon.com for
around twenty dollars.
Dan Hawke: Your films look interesting on your web-site. I tend
to go for a more fantasy "staged" scenario, but do enjoy a bit of
reality based entertainment every now and then. Is there any plans
to have your work distributed to adult stores? I know it would not
be nearly as profitable, but there is a large segment of the audience
out there to whom shipping presents difficulties.
Finally a poll question to the esteemed members of the board. If
you had it in your power to film a long protracted sweat and scream
filled flogging scene, (money being no object) who would you like
to star in it? My vote: Brooke Burke from "Wild On". The very thought
Saturday, January 11th 2003 - 11:59:37 AM
Sunday, January 12th 2003 - 12:33:02 PM
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Okay, I was kidding about that last comment :) Brooke Burke seriously
rings my bell big time, but maybe I'm different in that I don't fantasize
about necessarily whipping or flogging the object of my lust. I mean,
I love to watch a good whipping scene, like the kind that ZFX excels
in, but I would rather see someone like Brooke Burke tied up, gagged
and scared, as I slowly cut off her clothes and help myself to her body.
That is one gorgeous lady. Those big brown eyes would look great peering
out with a swatch of tape over her mouth. I guess I'd rather have
her than hurt her :)
Good call on The Punishment of Anne.
That's actually a real entertaining movie, period, about a
submissive who gets put through the ringer by her mistress while a
man watches, and later, helps out. The ending torture scene is one
of the best mainstream whipping scenes of all time, plus there's torture
with hot needles, too. As a bonus, the blonde leading lady is major
cutie, to boot. I wouldn't have known about the title change, so that's
one to look for, thanks.
Sunday, January 12th 2003 - 01:05:18 PM
Sorry, been away. Here's my fractious answers to a lot of what's been
Ralphus, I'm with you on signing for adult merchandise. Bleah. It
feels like just one more little bit of persecution for the folks who
like their vids a little off-center. We put up with it because we
must, but jeez...
AvF: I'm firmly in the fantasy over reality camp. The more realistic
a setting, the less I seem to care for it. I also don't like the consensual
vids. I like resisting victims, mid control, and monster-movie nods.
It's one of the things that first attracted me to Rick. Hotties being
abused and used by aliens, plants, mad scientists and even a whacked-out
teddy bear one time (Lisa's first appearance, I think). Very cool.
And the last 2 episodes of Ballista have been some of his best fantasy
work yet. I'm not so big on some of the more "reality" based vids,
like the SOB flicks, personally.
Forbidden Video: I received my tape and DVDs, though it took about
2 weeks (I think) for them to arrive. This was a lot longer than the
first order I placed, but this was also around the holidays, so that
may have accounted for part of it. I caught the delivery guy on the
second day. I liked Dr. Ruthless, very cool. The intruder failed for
me. The ending felt weak, and the model just wasn't convincing. Black
Market Bondage was a good watch, I liked it a lot. It is only 1 chapter,
though! It didn't take advantage of the magic of DVD technology.
A little off-topic, but I'm looking for a good copy of the movie
"Smoker." Not the recent, hacked-to-pieces re-release, but the original.
Any of you video sellers have a copy? Mine is, well, old, but I really
like that vid.
A belated best wishes for the new year to Ralphus, Rick, Mad Dog
and all the rest 'a youse who have kept me company here over the past
years. May 2003 see you happy, healthy, and successful.
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Been kinda quiet lately, so maybe this will inspire a bit of discussion.
Dan Hawke's recent post where he called himself Mr. Fast Forward reminds
me a bit of myself. I've checked out countless vids, and I often search
though them without actually watching them because I know what I want
to see. I've talked to other people who tell me that they couldn't care
less about story and only want to see the action. To paraphrase one
of my friends, "I don't care about plot, I only want to see videodrome."
Now I make highlights tapes for myself (currently at 94 full 2-hour
tapes full of edited scenes from tapes) and while there's lots of
"action", I also include a bit of story or lead in to help set the
mood. Stuff like the girls being stalked by their abductor before
the actual attack begins. The Japanese are especially adept at showing
such buildup; in fact, some of them devote nearly half the tape to
building up the suspense of the situation, the fear of the girl being
stalked, and the anticipation of the viewer as the villain gets closer
and closer to his goal of grabbing the girl and doing whatever he
pleases with her once she's in his clutches. Once he gets her, most
people would consider this when real "good stuff" begins, like the
stripping, the tying up and gagging, the rape, the torture, the humiliation,
etc. And sure, that's what I would most likely include in my highlights.
But...I also include a lot of the foreplay, too. I like to see her
living her everyday life, maybe fantasize about doing something to
her, and then I like to see the villain peering into her window and
plotting out a way to break into her home and attack her. Some would
consider this boring. They want to get straight into the action. And
sure, I can also see that reasoning, too. You turn on a tape, you
want to see tits and ass and pain and suffering. But to me, it's more
exciting to be slowly aroused, to be teased, and then you can enjoy
that suffering even more once you get there. So I guess my question
would be...would you prefer to watch an hour of constant action from
the opening titles, and is the story just something you fast forward
through to get there? After all, the classic HOM and Erotic Perversion
loops didn't mess around with story, and they are considered by many
to be some of the greatest and most revered bondage works ever released.
Or...are you like me and think plot and buildup are important? I'd
be curious to get people's opinions.
Friday, January 17th 2003 - 10:49:47 AM
Ralphus - Re: HOM /Erotic Perversion vs. plot/buildup.
Aren't Bizarre-TriStar movies like Curiosity Excited The Kat or
Tourist Trap the thing for you? To me, what makes Whitman so great
is that he could produce the "videodrome" stuff in the unbelievable
EP loops AND the funny, entertaining, bizarre "buildup" films aforementioned.
Friday, January 17th 2003 - 12:31:30 PM
Lorelei is offering BondCon attendees a rare opportunity to do a
custom photo or videoshoot with her (I suppose that a person doesn't
actually have to be there) at a reasonable price for a custom project
(companies usually charge $1000).
Surprisingly, I can't recall any discussions about the BondCon here,
but it represents a great opportunity to see most of the top bondage
models and producers. With 135 models currently attending, it also
represents a great opportunity to arrange photo sessions for anybody
who can save up some bucks before the convention. Dan Hawkes was at
the last convention, but I don't see his name as either a sponsor
or vendor for the upcoming BondCon in March.
Re: Plots or not: It depends what I'm in the mood for watching and
what I paid for it. I like to see the sequence of the woman being
stalked, grabbed, bound and gagged, stripped, and manhandled. I'll
sit still for some well-acted background material or even an overarching
storyline. If it's badly acted, it's time to fast-forward. I'm guilty
of watcing a whole movie on TV for a bondage scene that doesn't last
much longer than a minute. However, my patience becomes a lot thinner
if I've paid $60 for a bondage video/DVD. Anytime I pay for a bondage
video, I want to get to the action fairly quickly. I don't want an
hour of story or stalking. I've paid a fair amount of money for a
very specialized product and that's what I want. I didn't buy the
video because I expected great acting or a great story--I bought it
because it looked as if it would have some scenes that would get me
off. If I wanted any more than that, I'd go to the movies.
The director can park his artistic tendencies at the door because
I'm not interested in anything other than the gal being groped against
her will. Put a little plot around that and I won't mind, but let's
not waste too much time on it. I don't have high expectations for
bondage producers because there's no money for topnotch actors or
great production values. There's no need for them to try to compete
with mainstream Hollywood fare. Let's keep the focus on elements where
Hollywood isn't going. I'm not trying to dissuade a director from
stretching his creative muscles, but go the direct-to-video route
instead of trying to bring me along on their ride with a partial bondage
Saturday, January 18th 2003 - 12:18:52 PM
Been awhile, many things...
build up to action or not?
Depends how well it's done, how effective it is and how long it
is. Should probably be a length relative to how long the action is.
The classic HOM and EP loops are all paced pretty darn well, some
start off with the girl already bound, some have a little lead in
that soon leads to her getting captured. But then they're all roughly
11 to 14 minute movies--or twice that long if you watch them half
speed, which I usually do. (When the 8mm films were transferred to
video, the projector was sped up to compensate for frame rate differences
between 8mm and video, so they play somewhat faster on the video versions).
A longer movie can have longer lead in time, but I don't think it
should be too long. If it's intented to be a B-movie with BD erotica
in it somewhere, that's one thing, but if it's a BDSM or FF movie,
and it's 60+ minutes, I'm thinking it should be getting to the action
somewhere between 3 to 10 minutes. Personally, I'm not a big fan of
trying to make a full length movie when the focus is porn. On a 60
to 90 minute tape, I'd rather see 2 to 3 separate episodes on it.
One being something like...
1 to 5 minutes - establish girl is looking through someone's desk
searching for something, she's obviously not supposed to be there.
She finds what she's looking for, then hears a noise, hides the item
on high bookshelf. two men come in, grab her, subdue her, tie hands
behind her, question her, by 5 minute mark, some sexual oriented thing
happens, as in her blouse is unbuttoned
5 to 22 minutes - her interrogation, remove blouse, feel her up,
breast groping, remove bra, more rougher breast groping, clothspins,
skirt removed, grope her some more...etc, lots of stuff including
whipping or hard spanking, breast, ass and pussy slapping, total nudity,
tight crotchrope, her obvious distress, humiliation, embarrassment,
22 to 29 minutes - penetrated every which way, get rougher and meaner
as time goes, climax near end, but even after, they still continue
assaulting her, fade out
29 to 30 minutes - fade in, she's unconsious, but starts to come
too, the men are gone. she, exhausted, goes to retrieve what she hid,
from her reaction it's obviously not there, she sinks in chair, head
in hands, looks like she's crying, fade out
On to another episode, new minimal plot, more heavy action. That
would be my pref, to BDSM movie structure. 30 minutes or so focused
on one scene/one girl, then another episode focused on another scene/another
girl (or same girl). ZFX High Strung was kind of like that, tho I
didn't care for Lisa's segment, but Brandy's was pretty good.
Lorelei and BondCon
Seems like a good deal for people living in or going to New York.
Lorelei and John are pros, so doing a custom shoot with them would
be a good learning experience for first timer photographer/videomakers.
Price is reasonable. Wish they had it in L.A. sometime.
Real vs Fake
From reading the board, I guess people are in two camps on this
(as to be expected). I prefer movies that are fantasy/fiction oriented,
nonconsensual theme, as real looking as possible, but for the pain
to be pretty much fake or at least well within what the model can
handle. Pushing the envelope as far as what pain a producer puts a
model through is not nearly as interesting to me as pushing the envelope
of making a great--well acted, well shot (dv, decent lighting, sets,
costuming, variety of good shots), good sound (dialog, music, sfx),
well paced and edited, never a dull moment, nice surprises, attention
to and well handled key moments, multiple episode--video would be.
Along this line, some of the lighter looking whipping scenes, like
in Dan's vids, can actually be made to seem harder by mixing in louder
whipping sounds in post (during editing for those who don't know what
post means). Also Lashing Liz electro scene would have benefitted
from added electric buzz sfx. Also adding some appropriate background
music would help some too. Funny thing is, most people notice all
the cool visual effects in movies, but never realize how much the
quality of the sound adds to the movie experience -- even bondage
movies. At least it could. Don't think I've ever seen a bondage movie
with better than mediocre sound. Well, actually the sound in Brandy's
episode in High Strung was one of the better ones I noticed. (or think
I noticed, it's been awhile.)
Another thing that would help whipping scenes, real or fake, would
be to slow them down, especially at the beginning. In Lashing Liz,
Cheerleaders of Perilous U, and High Strung (rubber hose in this case)
the whipping blows were all like within a second of each other. Not
much time for the actress to register pain, and maybe sigh, cower,
or wimper at moments inbetween. Also slowing it done would make each
blow count more, and seem to hurt more possibly. Maybe start off with
each blow being at least 2 seconds or more apart. At least in the
beginning. Maybe get faster later, ending with the one second apart
whipping. Just a suggestion.
As far as insex raising the bar, I don't know. I've seen some rm's
on newgroups, and I've been fairly bored by them. Guess they're not
for me. But they obviously have their fans. I agree with TBone that
it's pretty easy to imagine what's going on is nonconsentual.
Dan Hawkes in his videos
Gonzo commented about Dan in his videos. Actually, Dan's physical
presence in his videos doesn't bother me. But to be honest, I couldn't
quite get past the persona he's using, and I'm not sure what it is.
It may be something along the lines of even though he's playing not
a nice guy, he sounds like a nice guy. I'm not sure if that's it though.
But lines like "very nice, very nice" and "don't be nervous" could
go. And maybe adding more menace to the tone might help. Some obvious
meanness in the captor of a girl goes a long way. I wouldn't mind
seeing Dan grope his girls rougher too.
If Dan does go into a more behind-the-camera director mode, I'd
still prefer a male actor to victimize the girl, not another girl.
Maybe sometimes, but girl on girl isn't my preference.
If you had it in your power to film a long
protracted sweat and scream filled flogging scene, (money being no
object) who would you like to star in it?
Jason Whitman and Raquel Welch (when she was in her prime in the
70s). Time traveling is allowed, isn't it?
Monday, January 20th 2003 - 03:26:04 AM
I think it safe to say that Dan is an expert at putting a girl in
a tight, uncomfortable position and letting us enjoy her suffering.
Frankly, I can think of a number of studios that would benefit GREATLY
by checking out his work.
But I have to agree with Scribbler that the whipping scenes could
use some work. Dan himself responded by talking about the model's
reactions. I agree that the model's reactions were superb, but I don't
agree that a good whipping scene is all about the model's reactions.
Fact is I think you can get a lot more milage out of a scene while
hurting the model less.
It's clear that first and foremost in Dan's mind is the model's
safety, and as the director, that is EXACTLY as it should be. However,
I think the tormentor to be an integral part of a whipping scene.
There needs to be a malicious intent in order for the impression that
the victim is in some kind of peril. Dan's care for the model's safety
is clear, and so to my eye he has all the maliciousness of a hooded
Ok, a big hooded bunny, would really be MORE malicious, but you
all take my point.
As I see it, there are a number of things one can do to creat the
impression of a savage whipping.
1. You can find a model that can really take a beating. They are out
there, the whippings in Redboard videos, despite their drawbacks (lack
of any bondage) are all pretty hard core. But I like the girl next
door thing you have going on with the models, so I would not try to
go this way.
2. You can create the impression of a savage whipping by exagerating
the force of the blow, by using paddles, slappers, and whips that
don't hurt as much as you would think, by encouraging the model to
roleplay and act.
3. You can fake it entirely by using things that won't hurt at all
and using Rick-type special effects.
I'm big on using 2 and 3. If I live to be 100, I don't think I will
ever get bored with Lisa Kinkaid's whipping in Ballista 2. And I bet
she was never in as much pain as the girl in the bondage rave.
Let me ask Dan a question directly - are you making a drama, or
P.S. I almost forgot. While I have seen a number of vids from the
old HOM days, I don't really have any of them. I would really like
to get a good print of 'Curiosity Excited the Kat' and 'Tourist Trap'.
Where is the best place to find these, and is there any chance that
they may ever be released on DVD?
Monday, January 20th 2003 - 03:15:40 PM
GONZO - Tourist Trap / CETK
I mentioned some time ago the online seller from where I purchased
VHS copies in excellent condition for both movies : smvideo.com. They
now cost $19 each. If ever the Sunshine company would release them
on DVD : they released several HOM videos(Bondage Classics, Special
Request), and one of the Bondage Classics dvd contains the trailers
for one (or a couple of ) Cole / Whitman movies...
Tuesday, January 21st 2003 - 11:31:01 AM
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You know, I have to admit that my mind is still a bit boggled by the
utter lack of response on this board to ZFX's latest release, South
of the Border 6. The tape came out in late November, I reviewed
it the first part of December, and...what? No one here has seen it?
If they have, no one has said Word One about it, and that really shocks
me. It's been nearly two months now. I assume most of the posters here
are ZFX fans. The main focus of this board is and has always been ZFX.
I can only assume one of two things:
1) No one has bought, or even rented the DVD.
If not, I ask you why not? It's one of ZFX's best in years. Haven't
you been looking at all the pics that have been posted here?
2) Some of you saw it, but no one wants to say anything.
And again I ask, why not? Do the same 9 people have to do all the
work around here? I understand there are lurkers among us, but I make
this challenge unto you. Come forward and be recognized! You don't
have to make a long post, but just say something. Say what you like
(or don't like) about whatever tapes you've seen lately. You're under
the cloak of anonymity when you post here anyway, and besides, we're
all like-minded perverts who should be able to speak about our bizarre
likes without the fear of ridicule in this place. So let's talk it
up, guys. Don't wait for someone else to make the first move. This
board is only as good as the people who post here. This site belongs
to all of you, so you can either let it die or you can contribute,
it's really your choice. So I'm sounding the pervert call NOW! Let's
see who's brave enough to answer :)
Tuesday, January 21st 2003 - 08:26:59 PM
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OK, I (for one) have'nt commented on SOB6 because I have not seen it.
I have been busy (I run a porn shop, take Bondage Photos as a hobby,
just got done with the Holidays, going to CES/Adult Expo/Bondcon in
Las Vegas). Plus, the last ZFX DVD I bought, Balista 3, didn't work
all that well (might be the old Philips player). I am planning to watch
it eventually, but it's not high on my list, gotta get a DanHawke disk
first, and am waiting for one from Slave Labor. Later
Tuesday, January 21st 2003 - 08:36:09 PM
Ralphus- I thought I could wait for it to hit the shelves. I was wrong.
It won't happen again. Then my I lost my copy of "Dirty Dreams" (bad
karma for waiting?) Needless to say, my order went out today. My views
upon viewing will follow soon.
Say Hi to Brooke!
Tuesday, January 21st 2003 - 09:53:45 PM
Ralphus -- You do a great job on this forum. I appreciate that, so I
am going to respond to your request for discussion of SOB6. But first,
I want to explain why I don't post very often. Perhaps I should post
more, and maybe I will, depending on the responses to my next few posts.
I agree with what you said about this forum being devoted primarily
to ZFX tapes, but frankly, the bondage and torture in ZFX tapes do
not turn me on (what can I say, different strokes for different folks).
Why then do I read the forum so frequently? Well, its a damn good
forum, and there is one element of ZFX tapes that does turn me on
-- the simulated rape scenes. Yeah, that stuff turns me on like nobody's
Bondage does turns me on, but only if the purpose is to restrain
the actress for the good ole in and out. But bondage, simply for bondage's
sake, simply does not get a rise out of my willie. And I have no idea
why the simulated rape turns me on, but the bondage and torture doesn't,
but that's the way it is.
So, I feel somewhat out of place here since I am really only "interested"
in one narrow topic of discussion, that seems to be secondary to the
primary emphasis of ZFX tapes on torture and bondage. But if the readers
would like some comments from one whose only interest is in the simulated
rape aspects of a film, I am more than happy to share.
I own SOB5, but I haven't purchased SOB6 because I am not sure that
I will like it. Your review said that there were two simulated rape
scenes, but that the second didn't have any penile close-ups. A simulated
rape scene is not going to get my rocks off unless I see the penis
(or a reasonable facsimilie thereof, realistically portrayed as such)
entering the vagina and exiting and entering again and so on and on
and on for at least twenty seconds, preferably more. It doesn't have
to be a close up where all you can see is the penis and the vagina.
In fact, I prefer a shot from above that shows at least part of the
actresses legs and stomach, if not her breasts and face as well. But
the viewer must be able to clearly see the penis going in and out
again and again.
The simulated rape sceen in SOB5 where the blond is tied to a bed
is good, but it doesn't quite get my rocks off because the shots of
the in and out are too brief, and the camera angle doesn't show it
well enough. Also, you can't hear the actress screaming because she
is giving simulated oral to two other guys during the in and out.
I like it when guys take turns, not so much when they do one at each
end because the guy in her mouth detracts from the intensity of the
guy in her vagina. And there is something sacred about entering the
vagina, so in a simulated rape scene, I want to see the actresses
attention focused solely on what is going on down there. And I want
to be able to hear the screams and protests. And the protests better
be convincing, or else I don't see the point in it.
So, that brings
me to the other simulated rape scene, the one with Lisa, that scene
sounded like she was drugged up, which I took to mean that she was
not struggling or screaming too much during the scene. She certainly
did not struggle or scream that much in Forced Entry. That scene,
which is often touted as ZFX's best simulated rape scene, didn't really
do all that much for me, but it could have, if she had screamed and
struggled more, and if the in and out had been shown a little more
Now, Dark Offering had a simulated rape scene that I thought was
much better than either SOB5 or Forced Entry. In Dark Offering, the
bad guys held the actress down while the leader of the bad guys stuck
his simulated penis in and out and out quite a number of times. I
really liked the acting in that scene too. The actress had a ball
gag in I think, but you could still hear her crying and screaming
through the gag. And the intensity of her noise making reached a definate
peak upon the moment of entry. Gotta love that. And lets not forget
the moment, just before entry, where the leader of the bad guys pulls
the cloak back and reveals his face to the actress. His expression
is phenominal. Its the combination of the shit-ass grin of a guy who
knows he's getting laid with the malice of a guy who enjoys it that
much more if it is forced. And upon seeing him leering at her, the
actress pulls away and screams and struggles that much more, because
there is something about the sheer enjoyment that he is taking in
what he is doing to her that is even more repulsive than the act itself.
The ultimate pleasure for him derived from the ultimate humiliation
I would buy SOB6 if it had the type of simulated rape scenes
that got my rocks off. I often buy tapes just because they have one
five minute scene. More often than not though, I am dissapointed because
the scene either doesn't show the penetration I need to see, or because
they have guys going at both ends, or because the penetration is all
anal, with no vaginal, or because the actress doesn't scream, struggle
and protest enough or she doesn't do it convincingly enough.
So, I have not purchased SOB6 because it doesn't sound like it will
be the kind of tape that will get my rocks off. But, Ralphus, you
have seen it. After reading this post, if you think that either of
the simulated rape scenes in SOB6 are more like the scene in Dark
Offering than the scenes I have discussed from SOB5 or Forced Entry,
please let me know. I would definately buy it if it has the kind of
scenes I am looking for. I do enjoy reading your reviews.
In closing, I would like to say that just because torture and bondage
don't get my rocks off, that doesn't mean I can't appreciate that
they would get other people's rocks off or that I don't enjoy reading
about it. It is just that I don't have much to say about the torture
and bondage elements. But I do have a lot to say about the forced
sex fantasy elements, so if the readers want to hear about that part,
I would be happy to post more often. And, at the risk of repeating
what I said at the beginning of this post, you have got one hell of
a good site here.
Tuesday, January 21st 2003 - 11:48:40 PM
Ralphus - Following up on your earlier post about foreplay vs. getting
straight to the action, I am glad to hear that I am not the only one
who makes highlight tapes. And when I make these tapes, I often find
myself editing out five seconds here or ten seconds there because there
may be some little bit that I find distracting or that seems to break
the mood. Like sometimes in a simulated rape scene everything will be
going along great and the actress will be screaming or crying and then
she will calmly say something like "this is so bad of you" as if the
guy were only stealing her purse or something and the fantasy is broken
because a line like that could only be delivered by a porn star. So,
I edit out any little bit that detracts from my enjoyment of the scene.
Do you do the same kind of detail editing in your compilation tapes?
As to plot/build-up vs. getting straight to the action, I like both
depending on how much time I have. If I just want to get my rocks off
quick, then I am going straight to the action, but if I have some time
and want to do it right, then some plot and build-up will really intensify
my enjoyment of the action once I get there.
If the build up is done well, then by the time I get to the action,
I will be into the fantasy (i.e., suspension of disbelief) and in
the fantasy, I will believe that the actress is really some sweet
innocent thing (or some sassy thing that needs to be taught a lesson,
as the case may be) instead of a porn star. And getting to the fantasy
like that is for me what these tapes are all about.
So, when I am buying a tape, I definately like to see some plot/build-up
because I can always make a highlights tape or use the fast forward
button if I just want a quick action shot.
Wednesday, January 22nd 2003 - 12:13:27 AM
After just lurking around on this board from the Netherlands for
a few months now, I finally have some questions that I think are valid
enough to post here:
1: Any chance of Rick and Dan ever teaming up? Maybe gueststar in
eachothers tapes?Or actresses gueststarring???
2: Any other Dutch or Belgian reading or posting here that would
be interested in swapping tapes??? So far, I feel like I'm the only
real ZFX fan in Holland..........
Wednesday, January 22nd 2003 - 07:34:07 AM
Ralphus: As of two days ago, SOB6 still hasn't appeared in Portland.
I wonder why? LB
Wednesday, January 22nd 2003 - 09:06:27 AM
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Unicoi: If you don't post to this forum very often, trust me,
it is our loss. Both your posts were excellent. You made some intelligent
observations, and I thank you for taking the time to join us here.
I understand your reluctance to check out SOB-6
based on my review of the contents of what's in the tape. As anybody
who reads my reviews on a regular basis might guess, I'm a torture
fan, and the SOB series is certainly torture-heavy. For that
reason, it's probably my favorite of all of ZFX's continuing stories.
But I also like rape scenes a lot, and sometimes they are the highlight
of a particular video for me, so it's hard to say I'm just one way
or the other. Generally, a tape will get a higher grade from me if
the particular actress who stars in it rings my bell.
The reason I
liked the rape scene in Forced Entry so much was because the
victim was Lisa Kinkaid, who does it for me looks-wise and performance-wise,
and because it was a bondage rape in my favorite bondage position,
the spread-eagle bed-tie. When I think back to that scene, do I remember
screams from her while it was happening? No, but I do remember her
pretty face with the sponge tied in her mouth as a gag. I'd have to
go back and check if there was much moaning or screaming, but I do
know that the scene worked for me big time as it was. But I do agree,
muffled cries and moans, if done convincingly, will improve any scene,
whether it be a rape scene, general bondage scene or torture scene.
So will the combination of threatening dialogue from the villain and
scared weeping from the victim.
BTW, I think a lot of people share your feelings about only liking
the rape aspects of ZFX videos. I think you'll see a lot of people
mention they don't care for the torture in Rick's tapes. Iago just
mentioned he wasn't so hot for the SOB series, for instance.
On the other hand, one of our former regular posters, Damien (whatever
happened to you?) much preferred torture to rape in his videos. One
of the reasons why ZFX vids appeal to such a wide audience is because
often Rick gives us something for everyone, both rape scenes and torture,
as well as the "weird shit" for the fantasy fans.
Of the two rape scenes in SOB-6, the one you would probably
appreciate more is Lisa's sequence. There were lots of simulated penis
entry shots. Lisa is drugged up and gagged but still makes some noise,
even if it's not real loud. As noted, there is no simulated penis
in Elaine's scene but she's still very loud and vocal. It doesn't
sound like either one is the Ideal Rape Scene in your book, but I
liked both of them. It's really up to you if you want to take a chance.
And yeah, when I edit my scenes, I edit them carefully and remove
anything that might distract from the flow of the scene or that stands
out as distracting for me. IMO, I have improved the pacing and rhythm
of many of the original scenes in some videos. I take out shots that
are repetitive or don't work for me, and when a scene starts to bore
me, I'll shorten the length of the foreplay and get to the money shot
quicker. I make these tapes for my own personal use, so they are custom-edited
to suit my likes. I recently added one of Dan Hawke's scenes with
a gorgeous blonde cutie named Rhiannon, and included almost the entire
22-minute segment, but still edited out about 8 seconds when Dan turns
her around to expose the huge tattoo on her back! Hey, it's a turnoff,
so I trimmed it out.
Flying Dutchman: Thanks for coming out of the lurking closet,
and we hope to see you post more. Dan Hawke posted here a while back
saying he doubted that a collaboration was in the future, and that
they both have different approaches to the subject anyway. Scroll
down and read his January 9 post for more.
Thanks to all who post here. We wouldn't have such a good forum
without your support.
Wednesday, January 22nd 2003 - 10:14:34 AM
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Flying Dutchman~Although I was born in the Netherlands I have resided
in the US for most of my life so, sorry, can't really help in your search
for swaping tapes.
Ralphus however mentioned the long time poster Damien, who lives
in the Netherlands. Unfortunately it's been quite some time since
we've heard from brother Damien. I think he did himself some harm,
as one of the last postings he made was to say he had watched something
like 8 hours straight, or something like that, of ZFX stuff. Then
a little while later he posted that he was in the hospital for sometime.
Maybe if we all channel our energies, we can get brother Damien
Let this be a lesson to us all...ZFX can be a good thing...in moderation.
SOB6 ~ You know me...always a day late. I'll end up getting it and
posting about it when it's old news.
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It's been a while since I posted here, but I thought I would drop
in and say a few words about various posts.
First I wanted to compliment RR on his post about build-up vs. getting
to the action. His position is my position (as a viewer). However
he managed to express these thoughts in a very lucid fashion. I won't
reiterate any of the points he made as they are far too well expressed
in his own January 18th post. Kudos to RR for hitting the nail on
Gonzo asked me about the effect I was looking to create in my videos.
In his post of Jan 20th he asked me directly; "...are you making a
drama, or a documentary?"
And I guess to some degree I am trying to capture elements of both.
Basically I am trying to create the feel of the old Whitman HOM loops
and his work in the punished series. I want to create a lightly pencilled
outline of a non-consensual plotline while having very "real" bondage
Early on I demanded that every moment be real. I have moved to a
position where if something can be faked and not be noticable, I will
do it. As to flogging though, I would prefer a lighter real flogging
to a fake one. To me personally, nothing looks worse than a fake flogging.
To me a fake flogging looks incredibly bad and takes me right out
of the fantasy. I can tell real marks from the make up, I can tell
by the weight of the material passing through the air and the obvious
weight (or lack of it) as it strikes a model's body. I find no flogging
preferable to a fake flogging.
Of course in the realm of flogging, different models can handle this
very, very differently. As time goes on I tend to not do the flogging
at all unless the model can handle a sufficiently intense flogging
so it appears real. However, as Scribbler suggested in his last post,
I should definitely consider some post production tricks to enhance
whatever intensity there is to start with. The trouble is, I really
need to clone myself as I spend an amazing amount of time on post
production as it is.
Moving on to my personna... As I mentioned my ideal is the old HOM
loops and the Punished series.
However I can't project that great old Whitman personna. He was able
to project that malevolent presence and have it come off kind of natural.
For me, I couldn't manage that. If I went that route I would come
off over the top. I know some of you like that effect, but it's not
Realizing this I looked at some other, more natural personnas. For
instance, Jay Edwards sounds pretty calm and reasonable for the most
part in his vids and it seems to work. The idea of a very reasonable
fellow just calmly going about his business of tying up and abusing
women seems to allow for a callous sort of interpretation that I think
However due to all of the hats I wear at a shoot, rigger, videographer,
photographer, director, peformer it is hard to keep much continuity
in my performance (such as it is). Sometimes it clicks during a shoot
and sometimes it's a struggle.
So I plan on moving more behind the camera. But don't worry, the
fantasies I want to capture are very much male dominant fantasies.
My "replacement" is a tall dominant man who I hope will be able to
project a more menacing personna. He knows fundamental rigging as
well and I will be working with him to enhance this skill.
From being behind the camera more consistently I hope to get better
video (no more 2 degree camera moves!). Also I will have more attention
to devote to the performances and also the continuity. Also I think
this will allow me to become more experimental in inventing new positions
and scenarios -- using my extra energy.
I have high hopes that this will help to push the quality up on my
productions. Once again, there's a lot of stuff in the pipeline already
done in my "classic style".
Of course, from time to time I will still appear in front of the
camera. You can't expect a guy to give up all the fun!
One last comment on finding the old HOM tapes like "Curiosity Excited
the Kat". The first gen copies of these tapes all had gold or silver
foil labels on the top of the case. These are still the best copies,
even though they are quite old. After questioning every ebay seller
I was able to find foil label copies of most of the Punished tapes.
SmVideos which someone has mentioned, does have these tapes available.
But they don't guarantee originals so you really have no idea what
quality to expect. For myself, I have never gotten a "horrible" copy
of anything from them, but I don't think I've ever gotten first gen
As to why Sunshine offers only a small selection
of the Bondage Classics tapes, I suspect it has to do with the fact
that the original HOM company changed hands so often. It's possible
that many different people might have a valid claim to copyrights
of this material, making it tought to offer the entire product line
for sale. ~Dan
Wednesday, January 22nd 2003 - 09:27:12 PM
I know it has been awhile since this was mentioned but I ordered
some of the videos at forbidden video from their gimp sale(Hey wonder
if Gimp know that they used his name). Very fast shipping, but that
whole having to sign for the item is for the birds. I totally understand
why they do it, but it is just not practical. I tracked the shipment
online and it was to be delivered on a Friday, well I just happen
to head home early from work, I got home at 1pm only to find out it
had been delivered at 12:30, and the next delivery attempt was going
to be on Mon at a time when I was at work. So I called up UPS and
had them hold it and drove way out of my way to pick it up on mon.
Like I said it just isnt practical, especially for the daytime workforce.
Steve, I dont know if you guys scimped on packing
because you were just clearing them out, but I really think your product
would benefit from containers. Send me an e-mail and we can chat some
more about boxes and containers. Or maybe some interfaces for your
DVD's, I have a degree in Multimedia and web design and a minor in
Graphics. If you are interested we could work something out. My rates
would are really reasonable. If you arent interested, that is fine
Build up vs action - Lets face it 99% of you guys
are into the action, otherwise you would be watching Hollywood type
Ralphus, my man keep up the great job, the board
is looking better than ever. As far as SOB-6 goes, no I havent seen
it, I lost my connection after quitting the Porno shop where most
of the movies up here were shot, and with the high prices of ZFX videos
I wont be getting it anytime soon. Maybe Rick should have a blow out
sale, I know that it would go over great from this board.
Come on everybody dont be afraid of posting here,
its the most legal fun you can have (at least for now). You can even
post in your birthday suit. Besides where else can you get to talk
to awesome people Like Dan Hawke, Rick Masters, Steve from Forbidden,
and last but not least the most awesome of all MAD DOG, (hey Ralphus
put my picture back up, who wants to see a naked chick) But I guess
we all pale in comparison to the chance to have all your dirty little
questions awnsered by the lovely Lisa Kinkaid.
Damien.....Hey I remember that guy, he was
fun to mess with. Damien come back to us my son. All right I rambled
on long enough.
Thursday, January 23rd 2003 - 04:40:40 PM
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Mad Dog: Thanks for the nice post. But a couple of things:
I don't know about anyone else, but the idea of you posting in your
birthday suit sort of makes me feel queasy.
And as far as putting your picture back on the board, hey, we're
trying to attract readers, not repel them! :)
Thursday, January 23rd 2003 - 06:02:06 PM
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Dan, thanks for the kind words. We're also in agreement regarding filming
something that's faked. If the director can't afford to do something
right, don't do it. Whether it's a fake flogging or a monster in an
obvious leftover mask from Halloween, a director shouldn't waste a lot
of time trying to do something that's way beyond the budget. It's very
possible to make a good movie for next to nothing. "El Mariachi", "Clerks",
and "Blair's Witch" are examples of good movies made for next to nothing.
They stay within their limited budgets and focus on what they can do
best with their money. A low budget movie simply cannot compete against
"Star Wars" on special effects--the future has to be implied more than
shown in its expansive entirety. One of my favorite sci-fi films, "Gattaca"
could have been shot on a shoestring (it wasn't) because it focused
more on ideas than FX. There are so many things that can be done well
in bondage films that it always bugs me when a director tries to insert
too much stuff that cannot be done convincingly.
However I can't project that great old Whitman personna. Don't feel
bad, neither could Whitman once he moved from silent 8mm loops to
video with sound, his menacing personna went to hell when he failed
to understand that silence can sometimes be golden. All I wanted him
to do was shut the hell up and have some fun with the bound gals at
his disposal. He was a lot more menacing when I didn't have to listen
to his dull series of explanations for what he was doing or going
Thursday, January 23rd 2003 - 08:20:46 PM
I don't really know how many times HOM changed hands. I thought
it was only once, when it was sold to Lyndon, and then Barb and company
started California Star. As far as I know, Lyndon owns all the HOM
stuff now. Sunshine I think is the name Lyndon uses when they distribute
vids and DVDs through other resellers. This is what I think; I could
As to why only some HOM is available on DVD, it's anybody's guess.
The price is right though, as most BC DVDs are $15, the one most recent
DVD release is $25.
Yeah, I agree that some of the coolness of the shorter HOM and EP
8mm loops was lost when he made longform VHS vids with sound (or shot
on film with sound). If they'd have done short talkies (like the silent
loops or punished series but with sound) I think the movies would
have been better. The editing dragged too on the longer video movies.
I don't have as big a problem with Whitman talking as RR seems to,
but yeah, he was better as a silent film villain.
Basically I am trying to create the
feel of the old Whitman HOM loops and his work in the punished series.
I want to create a lightly pencilled outline of a non-consensual plotline
while having very "real" bondage and torment.
Sounds ideal to me (especially if you add the penetration of the
EP loops)! Plus using the punished series format of 5 or so short
episodes to fill up a tape or DVD, as opposed to a one model long
movie (or 3 half hour episodes like I mentioned before). And keeping
the villain around; some of the punished episodes only shot the girl
in various bondage positions; they're not as good as when the villain's
there to mess with her while she's bound. And just, for the heck of
it, I'd recommend shooting one series without sound for nostalgia's
sake, editing it as tight as the old HOM loops and see how close you
can get! Even having similar HOM type title cards to start each loop.
Maybe you can fool people into thinking they're long lost HOM loops.
Instead of a music soundtrack, you could use a running 8mm projector
sound throughout. It'd be just like the early 70s!
SOB-6? Haven't seen it. Last ZFX I saw was High Strung. Liked Brandy's
scene, though some of the time I was wishing she wouldn't struggle
so much so I could get better looks at her. She's pretty spunky in
this, doesn't show much fear except in the electro scene. (Am curious
as to why the extension cord was taped in her mouth only, and not
in her hole, or any leads attached to nipples.) The Lisa scene did
little for me. So it was half a good vid. Ralphus review is pretty
Friday, January 24th 2003 - 01:03:02 AM
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What packaging are you reffering to? Our videos come in black cases
with shrink wrap, and we are just now getting full box art/cases for
our DVD's - Within 3-4 months all of our titles will be on DVD with
full cover art/boxes, etc.
As for VHS, we have never had any retail distribution, so we never
had the need for that, BUT we are searching for someone to do some
cool box art for us for them as we have a few distributors/stores
interested in our line. If you can do VHS box art, email me and we
will talk about it.
Our 1st two new DVD's should be here by next week. All of our DVD's
are now replicated on real DVD's - the silver one's so there will
be no compatibility problems. "Coma Ward" and "Call Girl Blues" is
1st. Trick Or Treat II and Open House will be here within 3-4 weeks
max. Then the rest of them after that.
As far as signing for deliveries..there are numerous reasons we
require this. The MAIN two are #1. LEGAL - If an underage person takes
delivery, the shipper of Adult material could be in big trouble. #2.In
this line of work you get a lot of people who order an item, take
delivery and then call their credit card company claiming they never
recieved the item when they did. Then the card company deducts this
money plus a $25 fee from the shippers acct. Without a signature this
used to happen 3-4 times a week to us. WIth a signature, if someone
tries this we just forward their proof of delivery and we are covered.
With a signature, there is no doubt about delivery.
Ralphus, I just emailed you about your PW. Thanks
Friday, January 24th 2003 - 10:42:11 AM
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RE HOM/SUNSHINE Sunshine is a "regular" adult video company that licenced
some of HOM's video to make DVD'd of them. This was a limited time deal,
and HOM is making their own DVD's now. BTW, the Sunshine DVD's weren't
so great, the HOM are a little better. However, the HOM dvd's are/going
to be priced higher than the Sunshine dvd's, if you want them cheap,
buy them now, If you want them good, buy later. So far the best bondage/sm
dvd's I have seen have come from BONVUE, I may not like some of their
movies, but they know how to DVD right. Hell, Summer's Severe Tit Torment
may even be harsh enuff for you guys (no story, just abuse of Summer's
tits). Off to the races, gotta mew model to shoot tommorrow!
Friday, January 24th 2003 - 09:54:50 PM
Ralphus -- Thanks four you comments. I will try to post more often.
I too like the bed tied spread eagle the best. And I too think Lisa
is a total babe. I am going to give SOB 6 a chance and order it. I liked
the scene in SOB 5 where Lisa is framed by the prison guy. I thought
she did a good job of acting that scene. It gave me a woody thinking
about the situation she would soon find herself in.
Anticipation. Powerful stuff. Reminds me of a line from Rocky Horror
Picture Show: "I see you quiver with antici..... [Say it!] ....pation!"
Tim Curry, gotta love him.
Anyway, that scene in SOB5 will make a good build-up scene to be
combined with the matress rape sceen from SOB 6 in a highlight tape.
As for Forced Entry, I did think it was a good scene, just not the
best one I have seen. Probably it was built up too big in my mind,
since I had read a lot of reviews about it, adn a lot of people said
it was an awesome scene. So, my excectations might have been too high.
Had I just come across it by accident, I would have probably been
stoked about it.
One thing though about that Forced Entry seen that would have been
easy to do and would have made it much more enjoyable for me . . .
wait, I want to do another post on that one because I want to make
sure Rick sees it maybe he can do it next time . . .
Saturday, January 25th 2003 - 03:41:32 PM
Rick Masters -- I really liked the simulated rape scene in Dark Offering.
I go into detail as to why I liked this scene in an earlier post, but
one thing I want to mention again was how much I liked the camera angle
from above in that scene because it showed most of the actresses struggling
body AND the simulated penis penetration at the same time. That combo
In Forced Entry, the perp seemed to be puting his body over
the actress so the viewer couldn't see as much of her struggling body.
Although this is the position I like to be in when having sex, in a
video, the perp's body covers up the actresses body. In Dark Obsession,
I could see the penetration scene from above and that angle of viewing
is my favorite because I think a female body looks better from that
"frontal" shot. In Forced Entry, most of the penetration shots were
taken from the foot of the bed, kind of like an "upskirt" shot. For
some inexplicable reason, that camera angle doesn't do much for me.
Perhaps it is because you don't see enough of the actresses beautiful
body, and I like to see her body being penetrated, not just the pussy.
Other opinions may differ, of course, but I am interested in your videos
mainly for the forced sex fantasy aspects, and I would REALLY appreciate
more bed tied spread eagle scenes with some camera angles from above,
like in Dark Offering. Not saying that the whole scene needs to be
shot from that angle, but a good thirty seconds from that angle will
make me a happy camper! Of course more would be better . . . But I know
you got lots of perverted customers to satisfy, and we all have slightly
different tastes. Take care, and thanks for doing what you do.
Saturday, January 25th 2003 - 03:57:56 PM
I noticed everyone complaining about having to sign for videos. I have
to agree with that, its a royal pain :) The funny thing is, I have NEVER
signed for an adult video before. I got a few ZFX titles on DVD and
VHS, and they were all dropped at my front door under the placemat.
I signed a signature waiver with both UPS and FEDEX, because I'm never
home to sign for stuff.
I'm still depressed that I never got Black Market
Bondage from Steve. I know the stupid tracking info says it was signed
for, but I didn't sign for it cause I wasn't even home plus they never
ask for a signature cause of the waiver, they always just dump it in
front. One fool dumped a scanner I ordered under my placemat!! It was
so dumb, the placemat only covered a portion of it, it made it stick
out even worse. duh... I live in a pretty safe/gated community so no one
steals stuff if its left in front. By the way, ZFX's Rick doesn't require
signatures now does he?
Monday, January 27th 2003 - 01:59:54 PM
Hey Rick, have you thought of incorporating the "horse" in your videos?
I've seen so many pictures of women on a horse with their hands tied
behind their back and pussy lips spread on the V of the horse.
Monday, January 27th 2003 - 02:02:41 PM
Does anybody out there know anything about the name of a video from
which there is a clip to be found and downloadable at KaZaa.com, in
which clip there is a scene where an asian girl, naked and with a very
beautiful body, undergoes electrotorture from three military interrogators?
She screams out very loud and convincing. The name of the clip at Kazaa.com
is "girl_torture_at_electric_crying.mpg" and it's 2.415 mb, 30 wonderful
seconds well worth the trouble downloading... Thanks for any help finding
out from which movie the clip is!!! Joanne S
Monday, January 27th 2003 - 02:22:19 PM
I agree that signing for videos is a real pain in the ass. I have to
take time off from work everytime I order a video because I can't have
them sent to my office. I get all kinds of other mailorder stuff sent
to my office, but with the "sexual harassment police" lurking around
every corner, I can't risk that my secretary or someone in the mailroom
might "inadvertently" open the package because if that happened, well
then my ass would be grass so to speak. Not that long ago a guy got
in trouble because someone oversaw him stuffing an envelop with some
pictures he had taken at Burning Man that he was mailing to a friend.
With such a fucked up "PC" attitude where I work, a place like this
forum, where we can discuss things freely is a welcome relief.
But working in an office where mere possession of nudie photos on
company property could get you in serious hot water gives me a lot
of sympathy for one of Steve at Forbidden's reasons for requiring
the signature. One of the things he said that it was to prevent kids
from getting their hands on his tapes. Apart from the other reasons,
that seems like a pretty good reason, especially in today's political
So, if the signature requirement will make Steve feel more insulated
from potential lawsuits from the uptight people of this world that
seem compelled to foist their Victorian standard of decency on all
us good, decent perverts, then I am not going to complain too much
about having to sign. Not as long as he keeps turning out movies like
Trick or Treat II.
I thought that was Forbidden's best effort yet. Ralphus wrote an
excellent review (which is why I bought the tape) so I won't repeat
what he said, though I would like to add a few additional comments
on the forced sex fantasy aspects of this film.
Dynamite was Dynamite. I agree with Ralphus that in the beginning,
she didn't struggle or cry much at all. Actually I fast forwarded
from the point when they initially stripped her to the point when
they bound her. That supposed "rape" scene in the beginning just looked
like consensual sex to me. I don't want to see that consensual sex
stuff because it makes it more difficult for me to be able to "believe"
the fantasy later on if I have previously seen the supposed rape victim
having consensual sex with the supposed rapist. I didn't mind it too
much though, cause I knew it was coming thanks to the review Ralphus
wrote and I have a fast forward button. The rest of the tape was well
worth the price for me.
Where things really got good from a forced sex fantasy aspect was
when they took her gag off and asked her name for the fourty third
time. That was when she finally broke down. She was sobbing and her
breath was coming in gasps as she told them exactly what they wanted
to know and begged and pleaded to be let go. She sounded like a little
kid half way through a really hard bare-ass spanking and begging and
pleading for it to end (and in case anyone is wondering, that is from
the memory of my own childhood. I wouldn't EVER spank my own kid).
Then she even shed what looked to be a real tear. For a few minutes
there, she had me REALLY convinced. I can't say enough about how much
I enjoyed her acting in that short scene.
I would have liked to have seen her sobbing and gasping that way
during the rape scene. But I still enjoyed the rape scene very much.
Especially the part where they flipped her on her back and one of
them held her arms while her legs were still tied to the spreader
bar. For me this is powerful imagery, partially bound and partially
held down by a buddy, but completely restrained.
I think complete restraint is almost necessary for a good rape scene.
If her arms are free, then she should be punching, clawing, slapping,
etc. Conversely, if her legs are free, she should be kicking or squirming.
Otherwise it just doesn't seem that "real." For me, nothing breaks
the fantasy quicker than a pair of unrestrained limbs that aren't
I imagine that it is more difficult to create scenes with that much
kicking, clawing or squirming, but the fantasy can be maintained by
completely restraining the actress. And I thought Trick or Treat II
handled this well when the buddy held her arms.
I have my own way of grading movies like this. Instead of giving
a letter grade, I use the hardness scale, and this movie gave me a
real boner. :)
Tuesday, January 28th 2003 - 12:21:15 AM
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Unicoi~Interesting post. Trick or Treat II...haven't seen it but with
your take on it along with Ralphus' review, make's it sound like something
I might want to check out.
But then there's the signing thing. I placed my last order with
a money order and the package still required a signature. Luckily
I guess the delivery person decided to ignore the instructions and
leave it anyway. Unlike you, I am not going to miss or take time out
from work to receive or pick up a package. This is for entertainment
and if I gotta go through the hassel I'll just have to find entertainment
If I do decide to p/u another DVD or two, I'll just have to inquire
if this is something we can get around if going by money order (since
that was his other reason...the stiffing of charge purchases). Maybe
if Steve happens to be by the forum and see's this he can shed some
light if paying by money order would be doable to get around the being
present problem with signing.
Question for Ralphus. Unicoi seemed to speak very highly of Dynamites
performance. I remembered you closing your review (unless I'm thinking
of another review) by saying, it would have been interesting to see
what Gauge could have done in the part (since Gauge was orignally
scheduled for the part, subbed by Dynamite). I know Gauge is one of
Ralphus' favorites but from what I've seen, she's not the greatest
actress. I was just curious on that comment. Was it meant from just
a physical point of view or do you see something in Gauge's acting
abilities that I may be missing? To me she always seem flat and uninspired.
Maybe passable if gagged throughout but please don't give her any
dialog or lines to read.
Tuesday, January 28th 2003 - 09:46:09 PM
I recieved my copy of SOB VI! As Ralphus has done a great description
of the action in his review, I will stick with what impressed me the
Elaine Payton turns in one of the best ZFX performances ever in
this reporters opinion. Check out the scene when she is mounted on
the dildo and forced to ride it- the facial expressions are priceless!
Revulsion, shame, disbelief-- very convincing. And this is before
a volt of electricity has been added! Once the electro scene begins
things really get physical- spasm for spasm, scream for scream, another
great electric performance.
The films ZFX moment? (Those great small touches that bring it all
home.) At one point while being shocked, one of the torturers mentions
he thinks she likes it. To this she frantically shakes her head no
to each of her captors- a desperate and futile act which fits the
scene perfectly. As if it would matter to them- but anything to stop
the shock would be tried. My only criticsisms is she is never fully
stripped naked. I know there are two schools of though on this, and
I am all for drawing it out, but if she is never fully stripped, the
session stops just short of its destination. As for the cigarettes,
too much of an ick factor for me to enjoy, but the scenes are again,
well acted and I look forward to more of Elaine in SOB VII.
Lisa's scene is great, and there is potential for more as she is
shot up with heroin. Thankfully she is naked nearly throughout (to
review g-in-o's First Law: Lisa Kinkaid can not be naked enough.)
Will we be seeing her begging a fuck for more heroin in VII? I can
All in all, very enjoyable. V felt like a expansion (a good one)of
the all time fave IV. SOB VI has a different feel but rates high.
Wednesday, January 29th 2003 - 09:52:04 AM
Hey guys, I noticed this forum isn't showing up on GOOGLE anymore. I
usually forget the damned URl to this forum so I lazily search for it
on google almost every other day. I type in these search words: zfx
gimp dreambook anyway it only brings up some adultdvd forum where someone
mentions this forum in a thread. I wonder if it was just some automatmic
removal thing or if they removed it on purpose?
Wednesday, January 29th 2003 - 01:43:11 PM
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Unicoi and g-in-o: Thanks guys, for your great reviews. That's
the reason why this forum is worth reading, the reactions and comments
of fellow fans of this sort of entertainment. I can't agree more with
g-in-o's assessment of Elaine Payton's performance in SOB-6.
To me, she is something special. Looks-wise, she not a stone fox like
the other new girl, Ashley Blake, but her realistic performance won
me over. She also seems like a fun lady to know in real life, if the
outttakes on the DVD are any indication. I'm sure it's hard to find
girls who will work in films like this, so Ashley looks like a real
find and I'm very glad that she'll be back for Part 7.
AvF: You're right, Gauge isn't the greatest actress in the
world, but I would have still preferred to see her in the role instead
of Dynamite. The reason? Gauge rings my bell, Dynamite does not. I
might have given TOT2 a higher grade if it had been Gauge receiving
the bondage, rape and torture, because I simply like her looks better.
If acting's a problem, well, that's why they invented duct tape! :)
I do agree with Unicoi's comments about her convincing performance
during the torture section of the tape. To me, that entire segment
was excellent and the best part of the tape. The rest of the tape,
particularly the first third, she was out performed and overmatched,
acting-wise, by the two villains. They carried the tape until that
point. But overall, it's one of the best I've seen from Forbidden
Video, and I hope they make more tapes that incorporate torture as
well as rape.
Signing for tapes: I would think that if you e-mailed Steve
and explained your situation, he might work it out so you don't have
to sign. If it comes down to that being the difference between ordering
his tapes or not, I would think he would make an exception, if for
no other reason than I'm sure he wants the business. I can't say this
as a certainty, but I do know that I complained to him about my difficulties
back when I was still ordering tapes, and he made sure I didn't have
to sign after that. So it can be done, but again, Steve will have
to decide this; I can't speak for him.
Starfleet: One word: Bookmark!
Wednesday, January 29th 2003 - 07:51:57 PM
Gauge is without question one of the hottest looking things around.
I like Ralphus's idea of duct taping her mouth. A good B&G rape scene
with Gauge would be awesome. Just don't let her talk, and I will be
Attraction is a funny thing though. I don't know what it is about
Dynamite that turns my crank, but she certainly does. More than Gauge,
which is strange when I think about it.
I agree that the villians in Trick or Treat II were very entertaining,
and played their parts well.
Wednesday, January 29th 2003 - 09:37:36 PM
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Joanne Sanderson~I popped over to Kazaa.com but I'm not sure where to
look to find the clip you mentioned. Maybe some additional directions
for those of us who are lost unless it shows up in a clear cut, well
defined place to look.
Link sharing~For about a year now I've been meaning to post a link
that I've always found interesting. While I remember I'll finally
take care of that now. It's a fetish update site, for lack of better
way to describe it. It gives news and updates on sites and also list
brand new sites as they show up. It's updated daily and shows the
type of fetish the site or group caters to. They used to keep about
three months worth but as more and more material becomes available
they had to cut it to only the current month. When you first click
on the link you'll think it's just a fetish top 100 listing. Give
it a moment to load and the updats will show up underneath the top
100 box. Not a complete listing by any stretch but still have found
interesting stuff from time to time.
Check it out and see what you think.
Ralphus~Yeaugh I thought it had to be because of Gauge's looks.
Wednesday, January 29th 2003 - 09:45:18 PM
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Here's an update from Damien. He e-mailed me and said that he heard
he was being mentioned on the board. Damien has been not well for
a while, but he says that things really took a turn for the better
lately. He doesn't have access to a private computer, so he doesn't
get to read the board much, but he says hi and that he WILL be back!
So, in honor of our old friend, here's a pic by "DAMIAN". Okay,
the spelling is slightly off, but who cares? :)
Thursday, January 30th 2003 - 07:04:41 PM
A while back I came across some bondage drawings that were based on
"Planet of the Apes". The women were really hot looking and were slaves
of these huge intelligent apes. anyone know where I can find more of
them? There were only two pics.
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 12:17:33 PM
Joanne - Too bad I uninstalled Kazaa recently! This must be an entertaining
Ralphus - Nice drawing ! Speaking of pictures displayed recently,
does somebody know the name of the (Erotic Perversion) actress who
was pictured yesterday (or was it 2 days ago) ?...or the name of ANY
girl featured the EP loops...Where are they now (sigh)
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 01:26:25 PM
Wow.. just got my first couple of Forbidden Video flix. Awesome. ToT2
is simply the best combination of styles that Ive yet to see (dominating,
hardcore sex mixed with some intense bondage). After being a fan for
so long of Rick & the ZFX titles, I'm afraid we may have finally found
something that actually challenges and possibly defeats the genre. Example
opinion: Perhaps the SOB series has jumped the shark (somewhere between
III & IV). -snapz
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 04:09:03 PM
Hi, AvF: You'll have to go to www.kazaa.com and doubleclick at "Get
the latest version" to install the file-shareprogram, then follow the
instructions to download it. When done and when you have installed it
properly, you go to the "search"-option, click on "video" and write
for example "electric" or "electro" as search word (search for "all").
Among the files that you get is the asian electrotorture-videoclip.
Mark it, and doubleclick on it or click on "download". When downloaded
(you can see under "Traffic" when it's downloaded), you click on "play".
You then also have it stored in your "My shared folder" and can open
it from there. I have asked Ralphus to post the clip at this site, hopefully
he is able to do that.
Starfleet: Those ape-drawings are available at
the paysite www.bdsmartwork.com and are also possible to buy at www.dofantasy.com
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 04:17:49 PM
I believe the drawings you are referring to are available at "dofantasy"
and also "bdsmartwork." They are drawn by an artist they call "Cagri"
at both of those sites, but they refer to him as "Kose" at the "drawingpalace."
I've provided you with a direct link to buy the Planet of The Apes
story, which they call "Lost in an Ape World," from dofantasy, but
I believe they have the whole comic posted at bdsmartwork. Actually
though, if you haven't been to any of these sites yet, I would recommend
drawingpalace of the three. It doesn't have the Planet of the Apes
story, but it is by far the best fantasy art site I've ever been to,
and it also has some much better works from Cagri than his Planet
of the apes story. All three sites are expensive, but well worth it
if you are into REALLY well drawn scenes of incredibly hot women being
abused in every, and I mean every way imaginable. I love a good ZFX
flick, but I actually like artwork better than the real thing more
often than not, because the artists have no limits, while Rick is
hindered by the shitty thing called reality. A good artist is free
to do what every he likes to his characters, and is only limited by
his talent and imagination, and believe me when I say they are in
no shortage of either at any of these sites.
Here is the direct link to the story: "Lost in an Ape World." http://www.dofantasy.com/english/USAFC08ApeWorld.htm
The site itself is obviously just : http://www.dofantasy.com/ They
only sell graphic novels and comics at dofantasy. Some are very good,
but I think you get more bang for your buck by joining either http://www.bdsmartwork.com/home.htm
bdsmartwork and dofantasy are obviously very closely related as
much of the same material is at both sites, but drawingpalace is actually
run by the same people, and the art there leans much more towards
the rougher side, and in my opinion is the best of the three. Just
in case you are interested, here is a link to Kose's preview page
at drawingpalace. http://www.drawingpalace.com/cose/kose.htm
Hope this helps.
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 07:18:26 PM
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Joanne~Thanks for the additional info, I'll check it out.
Damien~It's good to hear he's on the upswing. Hopefully he'll be
joining us again soon. It's always good to have the regulars on board.
Joe Millionaire~I just tuned on the radio and caught the tail end
of a story about one of the contestants in "Joe Millionaire" having
a sorted past, which included appearances in some bondage video's.
I didn't get a chance to hear which one it was though. Anyone else
hear this story? I know some the contestants were pretty hot. Allison
for one, if anyone's familiar with JM. Mellissa's pretty sweet looking
too. I'd really be interested in finding out which one it is and which
B&D video's she's done. Info anyone? Later.
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 09:32:14 PM
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For the erotic perversion series Whitman/Blakemore often used the same
models he used in his american productions for HOM.
The model from two days ago was definitely one who appeard in HOM 8mm
loops and photo spreads quite often in the early 70's. Pretty much all
the models he used were also featured in HOM.
I don't recall the name of this model. He used Rene Baker and Georgia
Van Helsing once in a long form erotic perversion style tape that was
like a hard core version of bittersweet revenge (featuring, among other
things, a bra whose cups were lined with thumbtacks).
Rene Baker also appeared in another one of these. If you have seen one
where the big boobeb brunette has her breasts pierced all the way through
with long meat skewers, the second feature on that tape (there were
only two on the original) featured Renee Baker again. There were some
pins in her breast, cutting pliers used on her clit and a tongue clamp
gag tightened enough to leave her tongue blood red after removal. I
know the boob skewers were fake (she was also an HOM model who was not
so buxom -- obviously fake tits) and the cutting pliers as well.
However the pins in Renee's boobs, while not as nasty, are definitely
real. I love that tongue clamp scene so if it was faked, please don't
anyone tell me how!
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 09:32:47 PM
Don't get to excited about the Joe Millionaire chick. The story
actually broke a few days ago and Yahoo had it as one of their headlines.
She did do some bondage flicks, but it was fully clothed as a cheerleader.
I.E. Tame as hell, tie her up and let the camera sit on her for 10
minutes, then put her in a new position and watch her for another
ten minutes bullshit, but with all her clothes on. Lets all say it
together. Yaaawwwnnnn. zzzzzzzzzzz.
Here's a link to Yahoo's current story on it: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/eo/20030131/en_tv_eo/11217
Friday, January 31st 2003 - 10:35:10 PM
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