Misc. Inquisition Scenes.

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What I really meant by facial features is characters such as Becky, Emma, Lisa, Eva, Maria, etc... and not expressions which I agree with you your skin is great and expression are much better than mine.
I use models Helena and Summer face and body a lot because my stake damsels avatars for real live SD forum lady members. Then modify them with Becky, Maria, etc. face as needed.
So this being said may I ask are your excellent hot gimp characters created the same way by using a specific poser face model and modify look or something else. Will Burner
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bleumune wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:20 pm The V4.2 skins don't look as realistic when rendering with Iray ...
Each figure differs in having a more or less advanced geometry, better bendings or more morphs, those kind of things. The texture quality has nothing to do with it. I don't use V4 much, aside from the background fillings but I found skins for V4 that look better than newer V9s .... for example anything made by Danae will render greatly under legacy (3Delight, Firefly) or physical based renderers (Iray, Superfly).

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wjhk93 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:27 pm What I really meant by facial features is characters such as Becky, Emma, Lisa, Eva, Maria, etc... and not expressions which I agree with you your skin is great and expression are much better than mine.
I use models Helena and Summer face and body a lot because my stake damsels avatars for real live SD forum lady members. Then modify them with Becky, Maria, etc. face as needed.
So this being said may I ask are your excellent hot gimp characters created the same way by using a specific poser face model and modify look or something else. Will Burner
I generally use either the Victoria 8 character with different heads or one of Raiya's excellent models. Then I play with physical attributes like breast size, waist width, height, etc., especially if there are several females in the scene. If the heroine is actually under torture, I enhance the muscular strain of their limbs and belly and apply a wet geoshell to simulate the sweat of a woman being tortured. For skins, I'll often use the skin from Raiya's Leony for an olive-skinned girl, but I've found that Daz's Victoria 8 skin gives a realistic pale-skinned look.

Then I try to make the expression match the figure - horror/agony expressions for heroines under torture, and glee for a female torturer.
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doe.1971 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:44 pm
bleumune wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:20 pm The V4.2 skins don't look as realistic when rendering with Iray ...
Each figure differs in having a more or less advanced geometry, better bendings or more morphs, those kind of things. The texture quality has nothing to do with it. I don't use V4 much, aside from the background fillings but I found skins for V4 that look better than newer V9s .... for example anything made by Danae will render greatly under legacy (3Delight, Firefly) or physical based renderers (Iray, Superfly).

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"The texture quality has nothing to do with it." Huh?!?!

I've had exactly the opposite experience! I did a lot of research of opinions with 3D artists considered the best by other 3D artists, and they were unanimous that the choice of skin was critical! One comment was especially telling for me, pointing out that most amateur hobbyists looked for characters that were on sale and then were disappointed that they couldn't make them look anything like what the Masters did. Their comments led me to stop buying cheap models and to wait for the more expensive models like those made by Raiya to go on sale. I think I've spent my money a lot more wisely after reading those comments.

That said, I'll be taking a look at your recommendation of Danae for V4.2. Do you think it's the character or the skin that makes that character render great under Iray?
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Sorry about all the technical discussion, but I get carried away sometimes! :roll:

Anyway, back to the dungeon and the Countess getting her first taste of being stretched on the Rack. The Princess has come down to witness the Countess' interrogation and is enjoying it. She imagines that, if the revolt by the captive's husband had succeeded, it might be her on this Rack rather than the Countess . . .
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bleumune wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:47 pm "The texture quality has nothing to do with it." Huh?!?!

I've had exactly the opposite experience! I did a lot of research of opinions with 3D artists considered the best by other 3D artists, and they were unanimous that the choice of skin was critical! One comment was especially telling for me, pointing out that most amateur hobbyists looked for characters that were on sale and then were disappointed that they couldn't make them look anything like what the Masters did. Their comments led me to stop buying cheap models and to wait for the more expensive models like those made by Raiya to go on sale. I think I've spent my money a lot more wisely after reading those comments.
We misunderstood each other. You said you can't use older model because they render badly under Iray. I told you that the type of figure doesn't matter, only the skin (or texture, same thing) does. Thus you can find great skins for older models, like the one I used as example or terrible generic, dull, cheap skins for the newest G9.
bleumune wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:47 pm That said, I'll be taking a look at your recommendation of Danae for V4.2. Do you think it's the character or the skin that makes that character render great under Iray?
Only the skin gives the good look in Iray. Characters are only slight modification (injections) of the basic geometries so not all V9 have the same facial shape. You need a character with excellent bends (natural changing in the mesh when we subject them to unusual tortures) like G8 (but a V4 weight mapped also works fine) and at least one good skin (or more if you like racial mixes, like I do).

Personally I prefer Dawn, the most versatile from Poser universe, second to Miki4, both very tolerant to extreme posing. As for skins, I like anything with SSS (they look good in Iray too).
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Doesn't seem to be much interest in this series. Oh, well.

Anyway, the countess is sturdy and brave, determined not to betray her husband's hiding place, and she manages to hold her tongue as the skilled interrogator slowly pulls her shoulders and hips out of joint. She already knows she's doomed - the king would never permit the wife of a traitor to live, but the agony of her body being stretched beyond its breaking point has her mouth open in a whining scream. She can't scream any louder - she needs all her breath for herself . . .
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bleumune wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:43 pm Doesn't seem to be much interest in this series....
Don't fret bleumune, there are literally hundreds of lurkers perusing and appreciating your art.

BTW, do you post on other sites as well, like Deviant Art and Renderotica?
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bleumune wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:43 pm Doesn't seem to be much interest in this series. Oh, well.

Anyway, the countess is sturdy and brave, determined not to betray her husband's hiding place, and she manages to hold her tongue as the skilled interrogator slowly pulls her shoulders and hips out of joint. She already knows she's doomed - the king would never permit the wife of a traitor to live, but the agony of her body being stretched beyond its breaking point has her mouth open in a whining scream. She can't scream any louder - she needs all her breath for herself . . .
I can't speak for everyone, but you certainly have my undivided attention with this story. Loving these images would be a gross understatement. :twisted:
And you guys discuss the technical aspect all you want, because that's that's how we get to enjoy the fantastic images you create.
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she needs all her breath for herself . . . burning at stake ;) in her fiery end. Right :twisted: ?
Most artists don't get a lot of like posts but I'm sure most every Gimper love your terrific :twisted: 8-) poser artwork. Will Burner
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