ElitePain - COP RLD - Darcia

[Amari]

but I have another theory on what really happened that Tatjana and Darcia staged the whole thing

as it seems that Darcia gave Tatjana a sign to hit her pussy by touching her bottom right before the foul strokes

good call on the Darcia's sign!
I also suggested earlier that Darcia and Tatjana were accomplices

But now I suspect that Darcia's goal was that Tatjana be condemned to suffer the final pussy round .
But ... what does the "little game host" require? ... an apology!

[Bullwhiplover]

but I have another theory on what really happened that Tatjana and Darcia staged the whole thing

as it seems that Darcia gave Tatjana a sign to hit her pussy by touching her bottom right before the foul strokes

good call on the Darcia's sign!
I also suggested earlier that Darcia and Tatjana were accomplices

But now I suspect that Darcia's goal was that Tatjana be condemned to suffer the final pussy round .
But ... what does the "little game host" require? ... an apology!

@Amari So you think Darcia's intention was that as punishment for cheating Tatyana she should undergo the pussy round as punishment.
interesting thought if this is indeed the case then it is a pity that the host only asked for apologies.
but I don't think Tatjana would do this

[Amari]

@Bullwhiplover, I can't help but imagine unlikely things. Just for fun.
Darcia played with Tatjana so many times that we can imagine that they are accomplices OR that Darcia was planning a revenge(as Linda got) by choosing butt as a trap followed by a pussy round. Clever .

At least, similar words to these would have been funny :

"interesting. You were harsher about my saltwater issue. Forget it. Thank you ",

[Squatchballs]

I totally agree with you Squatchballs

in the end, it cost EP more money (Darcia got paid the total amount and Amanda got the Bonus too)

I am sure Darcia would think of quitting if Tatjana never cheated --

but I have another theory on what really happened that Tatjana and Darcia staged the whole thing

as it seems that Darcia gave Tatjana a sign to hit her pussy by touching her bottom right before the foul strokes

no wonder Pedro wants to step down LOL

That's also a very likely possibility. Two of the girls we had at the old company were intentionally being bitchy at each other so we'd have to pay them extra to be in the same vid. Customers requested them a lot. They knew this. So they used it to their advantage. "bitch bonus".

Bosses didn't see it or turned a blind eye to it. Some models became divas, others got stuck wondering why they were getting less than the others even though they booking more shoots. We went under a year later after all this unprofessional behavior. I'd prefer EP not go that ugly route.

[CyberVamp]

but I have another theory on what really happened that Tatjana and Darcia staged the whole thing

as it seems that Darcia gave Tatjana a sign to hit her pussy by touching her bottom right before the foul strokes

good call on the Darcia's sign!
I also suggested earlier that Darcia and Tatjana were accomplices

But now I suspect that Darcia's goal was that Tatjana be condemned to suffer the final pussy round .
But ... what does the "little game host" require? ... an apology!

I am not sure about Darcia's plan in getting Tatjana punished but I think they are friends away from EP

also, Darcia is very active in mainstream porn and strikes to her pussy will take a long time to recover and therefore losses in bookings and earnings hence her completely refusing to take on the pussy round and she knew she would get the winnings. Darcia played that game very well and I think Tatjana got mentally dominated by Darcia

back in the old days if the Domina never hit properly they would be punished and take the same punishment but not with Tatjana, we have to put up with her antics or let her leave EP as she will never agree to the rules

[Amari]

I am not sure about Darcia's plan in getting Tatjana punished but I think they are friends away from EP

also, Darcia is very active in mainstream porn and strikes to her pussy will take a long time to recover and therefore losses in bookings and earnings hence her completely refusing to take on the pussy round and she knew she would get the winnings. Darcia played that game very well and I think Tatjana got mentally dominated by Darcia

I agree about Darcia. The evil plan theory was just a joke. May be, she fooled Tatjana ( and us, and the management? )
But it is rather Amanda who dominates Tatjana:

back in the old days if the Domina never hit properly they would be punished and take the same punishment but not with Tatjana, we have to put up with her antics or let her leave EP as she will never agree to the rules

I don't know too much about the old EP days, but I think the dominas were punished when they were not harsh enough, not for unproper strokes.
And I'm pretty sure that the monk was never condemned for hitting pussies badly !

[torin]

These are great films, but I think they are not real games. Every film has a script, the action of the girls is written. Girls don't risk their health if they're not sure they'll get the money.

[jm6d]

Well, that was so promising and started so well, but Tatjana once again proved to be the unreliable fake domme (small 'd') that she can't help being and once again ruined the movie. I have stopped counting the number of times Tatjana went too far and handled herself unreliably and stupidly.

Real Doms and Dommes are not these cartoonish uber-sadistic people who simply enjoy hurting people by whatever means necessary. Real Dommes establish trust and respect. They provide rules and boundaries and stick to them. They stay in control at all times. They endeavour to get the best out of their subs by enticing them to push themselves out of their own free will. They don't use nasty surprises as a weapon. These are the best way to kill a mood, to get the sub to safeword and to ruin a perfect evening or in this case, a good movie.

I would never let Tatjana handle any of my subs. She is out of control and borderline dangerous. She doesn't know what she is doing and doesn't care about the consequences of her actions. She has proven this time and time again. Yes she looks the part, but this is just appearances. She does not deserve any respect for her actions.

It is too bad EP has taken so long to realise that she should not be on set and certainly not be given free reign with a whip on a lovely, brave, beautiful and strong sub like Darcia.

This is really too bad. EP could have interviewed for a professional Domme years ago instead of sticking with Tatjana. I believe they would have had tons of great candidates with their established reputation. I believe some of the cooler voices on this forum have been saying this for quite some time now.

Repeting what has already been said is not the best of ideas, but I feel the need to do it. "Real Doms and Dommes" do not exist in these movies. They are not describing a dom-sub relationship. They are not describing a relationship at all. Wanting to win, wanting to gain money are two women. One tries, limited by rules that are often discussed and interpreted on this board, to inflict severe pain on the other, forcing her to quit. The other tries to withstand the pain and the often added humiliation. There are no doms-subs. We have torturer and tortured, executioner and executed. We have got hints from Pedro, so we can assume that none is deeply submissive and wanting pain as he has written that they do not want masochists. Except for that we probably know nothing about relationships. We can interpret and guess, but we do not know the relationships if they exists. We do not know what is acting and what is real. I think that the outbursts when, probably, very severe pain is felt is real, but that is my guess. We only know two things, pain and money, and those watching due to the money aspect are probably nobody, so it's all about the pain and therefore there are no "Real Doms and Dommes" here.

[Pedro]

jm6d Bravo, you really get it right!

[hornythumb]

Well, that was so promising and started so well, but Tatjana once again proved to be the unreliable fake domme (small 'd') that she can't help being and once again ruined the movie. I have stopped counting the number of times Tatjana went too far and handled herself unreliably and stupidly.

Real Doms and Dommes are not these cartoonish uber-sadistic people who simply enjoy hurting people by whatever means necessary. Real Dommes establish trust and respect. They provide rules and boundaries and stick to them. They stay in control at all times. They endeavour to get the best out of their subs by enticing them to push themselves out of their own free will. They don't use nasty surprises as a weapon. These are the best way to kill a mood, to get the sub to safeword and to ruin a perfect evening or in this case, a good movie.

I would never let Tatjana handle any of my subs. She is out of control and borderline dangerous. She doesn't know what she is doing and doesn't care about the consequences of her actions. She has proven this time and time again. Yes she looks the part, but this is just appearances. She does not deserve any respect for her actions.

It is too bad EP has taken so long to realise that she should not be on set and certainly not be given free reign with a whip on a lovely, brave, beautiful and strong sub like Darcia.

This is really too bad. EP could have interviewed for a professional Domme years ago instead of sticking with Tatjana. I believe they would have had tons of great candidates with their established reputation. I believe some of the cooler voices on this forum have been saying this for quite some time now.

Repeting what has already been said is not the best of ideas, but I feel the need to do it. "Real Doms and Dommes" do not exist in these movies. They are not describing a dom-sub relationship. They are not describing a relationship at all. Wanting to win, wanting to gain money are two women. One tries, limited by rules that are often discussed and interpreted on this board, to inflict severe pain on the other, forcing her to quit. The other tries to withstand the pain and the often added humiliation. There are no doms-subs. We have torturer and tortured, executioner and executed. We have got hints from Pedro, so we can assume that none is deeply submissive and wanting pain as he has written that they do not want masochists. Except for that we probably know nothing about relationships. We can interpret and guess, but we do not know the relationships if they exists. We do not know what is acting and what is real. I think that the outbursts when, probably, very severe pain is felt is real, but that is my guess. We only know two things, pain and money, and those watching due to the money aspect are probably nobody, so it's all about the pain and therefore there are no "Real Doms and Dommes" here.

Thanks, very helpful.