Enduring wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:20 am
Good finding.
Thanks. I have more, but for some I have reasons to not share some of them and I haven't yet figured out for which.
Enduring wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:20 am
What about (...) pepper spray?
No.
Pepper Spray is often called a non-lethal weapon, but it's actually more of a less lethal weapon.
"the ACLU found (...) one death per 600 times police used spray.(...)death was more likely if the victim was also restrained"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/ ... c7f9829794 That number might be too high, but there are also permanent disabilities which happen way more often than lethality.
Two counter points:
1st: whipping, restraining and all that stuff can lead to death as well.
But less often and also the differences in individudal tolerance towards capsaicin are way larger than the tolerance differences towards beating (although these can greatly differ as well).
2nd: Publicly available "self defense" pepper sprays are way less effective and dangerous than the ones which police enforcement use.
Yes, but it's still not meant to be used indoors and neither meant to be used on restrained targets. And if you don't restrain the sub, then how do you ensure that she even gets hit? If you tell her she can't dodge it, because otherwise she will get punished, then you can't even tell if that's less or more dangerous than restraints and you'd also have problems that the doms might inhale some of the spray.
You could dilute it further, but then you'd still have a tool lying around which is more lethal than most of what already is there and also it's an additional challenge to guarantee the proper dilution ratio *cough* salt water *cough*. You could try to use a pepper spray solution, but pepper spray is also usually denaturated (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denaturation_(food) ) which means that orally administering a pepper spray solution is not unlikely to cause puking. Btw: I find it intriguing, that while Germans have totally different words for both meanings of denaturated ("denaturiert" and "vergällt" while the latter can also be used for "spoilt" and Hungarians have different, but similar words: "denatúrák" for "vergällt" and "denaturált" for "denaturiert".
Enduring wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:20 am
Chili sauce
That is much more reasonable.
It has the exact same active ingredient (Capsaicin. Except pepper spray also uses further toxins such as "alcohol, halogenated hydrocarbons, and propellants such as Freon", but let's ignore that.) as pepper spray and thus
it does have the same problem, that the individual tolerance differs greatly. Let me expand: You tell me, that there are Qi masters that manage to take devastating hits without blinking an eye. Okay, but there are people that feel like dying after tasting a drop of 20.000 scoville sauce while others manage to eat a spoonfull of 2.000.000 scoville sauce and just walk away. The latter will have terrible stomach pain several hours and possibly for days after, but if one of the doms hits a sub with full force and then a Qi master receives a blow which is objectively 100 times stronger, then the latter is probably dead.
Also it gives this slight uneasy feeling because in very rare cases it has happened that people have died after eating super hot sauce - to heart failure. And one girl in the cast might have a small heart problem that almost never matters and maybe the next sub does too, but doesn't know yet. But then again eating hot sauce is one of the few things that can be excruciatingly painful yet healthy at the same time. The kind of health-risk that hot sauce has vs what pepper spray brings is actually the reason why I'd say that hot sauce is actually okay if used in the proper fashion. But I haven't said anything about more specific health risks that pepper spray brings... yet.
"Severe injuries surveyed included injuries to multiple body systems, with the majority of injuries being to the skin, eyes, and cardiopulmonary system (lung, heart, and chest)."
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/file ... _web_1.pdf (that link counts for all three quotes in this paragraph)
All of the documented risks which can lead to death and permanent disabilities spring from the administering of the pepper spray onto skin, eyes and nose and from the fact that the powder is aerosolized ("by
a triggered thermal explosion"). On the other hand if you have a severe heart condition (which luckily noone in the cast has - at least as far as I know) which you might not know, then you're at risk to die from any kind of sudden shock, be it the death of a loved one, the horn of a car or the strike of a dom's whip. What I'm saying is that if you orally administer regular hot sauce and don't drop it into one's eye or put it up ones nose (don't say noone ever had that idea, I have alreay seen a shoot where a sub got Q-tips of nasty stuff stuck up her nose and the same sub, but in another shoot, was told to try and keep her eyes open while those were being sprayed with water) then that's very close to as safe as 100 whips to a restrained sub in any fashion.
tl;dr: Pepper Spray: No. Hot Sauce: Yes, but only orally, no funny business!
My next post might be just as much of a wall of text, because regarding my next suggestion I have a lot to elaborate about as well. But not today.
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