letvor's Cave

[letvor]

Hello everyone, especially those who know me, or rather, remember me. We haven't seen each other for a long time for well-known reasons.

The introductory post will be as short as possible and as detailed as necessary due to the content of this topic. I don't intend to resurrect "GIMPs that didn't survive" or to create almost documentary-like posts as before. With each borrowed material, the original source will be provided. This topic is exclusively related to fantasy, and all clearly stated forum rules must be respected, especially part 1 and part 3 disclaimer highlighted before entering the forum.

Here, as before, the majority of space will be occupied by serial killers whose crimes we will compare to pornographic materials. I will also provide reflections on dear song lyrics and bands. This topic will likely be extreme for some members, so I would ask those who feel uncomfortable to simply avoid it.

If anyone is interested in exploring more about the theme name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave



With respect, letvor

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And to begin with, a welcome song and very interesting album cover.

Torsofuck - Mutilated For Sexual Purposes

I cut off her arms and legs
Blood spills from the stumps
Ripping out her guts makes me horny
I stuck my cock in her mouth
I saw off the head and cum
Anal double fistfuck
The bitch is done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I42l_43 ... fuck-Topic

- album cover -

[cluseb]

Hello everyone, especially those who know me, or rather, remember me. We haven't seen each other for a long time for well-known reasons.




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Here, as before, the majority of space will be occupied by serial killers whose crimes we will compare to pornographic materials.

Welcome back, I was afraid we lost you to our insane world or grief over "Topics that didn't survive"

"Here, as before, the majority of space will be occupied by serial killers whose crimes we will compare to pornographic materials".

Dibs on The Toy-Box-Killer

It took 3 days of research to confirm this wasn't a fake
Police only recovered 1 VHS tape from David Parker Ray's crime scene.

Her name was Kelli Garrett ... She's 1 of only 3 known survivors of aprox. 60 women

O yeah , here's the porn version

To expand, click blue ---> https://ralphus.net/thegimpforum/downlo ... &mode=view trailer and gimp head are AI.

[Ralphus]

Hello everyone, especially those who know me, or rather, remember me. We haven't seen each other for a long time for well-known reasons.

Welcome back, Letvor. This place hasn't been the same without you.

The introductory post will be as short as possible and as detailed as necessary due to the content of this topic. I don't intend to resurrect "GIMPs that didn't survive" or to create almost documentary-like posts as before.

As to what happened to that thread's sudden disappearance, I can't say with certainty. I can only speculate and assure you that I had nothing to do with it.

With each borrowed material, the original source will be provided. This topic is exclusively related to fantasy, and all clearly stated forum rules must be respected, especially part 1 and part 3 disclaimer highlighted before entering the forum.

I'll repeat the relevant sections you are quoting:
PART 1: This site, does NOT, under any circumstances, knowingly promote any violence of any kind toward any living being.

PART 3: The webmaster(s) believe that real-life sexual violence is a most horrific crime that should be punished in the most severe manner allowed by the state.

To clarify, no one here is celebrating real-life victims. But on the other hand, to simply ignore them or not even mention their fates comes across as disengenuous, since our dark fantasies often are based on real-life crimes.

Here, as before, the majority of space will be occupied by serial killers whose crimes we will compare to pornographic materials.

Again, we're not celebrating serial killers, either. Individually and collectively, they are horrible people who don't deserve to live in society. But without them, we wouldn't have a lot of the material that form the basis of the drawings, stories and film clips of women in peril that we all seem to love. It's a slippery slope, to be sure.

[Ralphus]

Dibs on The Toy-Box-Killer
Figure 12.17..jpg

I also want to clarify why I don't have a problem with this real-life crime scene photo. It's real, but it's also very interesting to see just how ugly real sexual crime looks like to those of us who get off on the fantasy. It's sad, and not at all exciting to me. I much prefer the AI knock-off that is based on it.

Is posting the photo exploitive? Ask yourself if anything different would have happened to the woman if we had not seen the photo. The answer is no. We can't change the past. The crime occured; this is simply evidence of it. If we could have been there and stopped it from happening, that would be something different. But seeing the photo afterward doesn't change a thing.

[wulf]

Dibs on The Toy-Box-Killer
Figure 12.17..jpg

I also want to clarify why I don't have a problem with this real-life crime scene photo. It's real, but it's also very interesting to see just how ugly real sexual crime looks like to those of us who get off on the fantasy. It's sad, and not at all exciting to me. I much prefer the AI knock-off that is based on it.

Is posting the photo exploitive? Ask yourself if anything different would have happened to the woman if we had not seen the photo. The answer is no. We can't change the past. The crime occured; this is simply evidence of it. If we could have been there and stopped it from happening, that would be something different. But seeing the photo afterward doesn't change a thing.

Well said. ^^

[letvor]

Welcome back, Letvor. This place hasn't been the same without you.

Thank you for the kind words and welcome, dear Ralphus.

I'm glad you made this addition to the introductory post and, from an administrative position, further defined the rules of conduct in this slippery slope topic.

"GIMPs that didn't survive" and now "letvor's Cave" were never conceived as topics to glorify criminals or celebrate their horrific deeds. However, on the other hand, everything that occupies our fantasy would never be the same without them. Whether it's about murderers, rapists, abusers, or the exploitation of totalitarian regimes, dystopian societies, genocidal events – everything is inspired by something, and in this topic, we are precisely looking for those roots.

I also don't see a problem with using photos of victims or those taken at crime scenes. We are talking about history here. Historical material must always be treated with respect, and here (as before) we will not do anything else. Pornography is a form of art, and this type of pornography is very specific.

If any of us were to try to prevent the commission of crimes – physically or by calling the authorities – undoubtedly we would. But what happened cannot be changed, and by not forgetting history, I believe we are doing a service to the world.

Allow me to quote Sigmund Freud:

The virtuous man contents himself with dreaming that which the wicked man does in actual life.

In the end, I would like to say that I am very glad to be here again and to see so many familiar faces.

Sincerely,
letvor

[letvor]

The first person we will talk about is Jeffrey Dahmer.

J Dahmer

Although this serial killer was gay, he exploited and killed exclusively individuals of the same sexual orientation. His significance and impact in the pornographic industry are enormous. Dahmer, as a boy, collected roadkill with his father, studied carcasses, and attempted taxidermy. He was always fascinated by innards and bones. He had issues with alcohol, maintaining steady employment, and was discharged from the military.

Young Jeffrey always fantasized about owning his personal sexual slave, a sex zombie that would never leave him, always at his disposal to fulfill all his desires. This fantasy became the most distinctive part of his work, as he repeatedly drilled into the skulls of his victims with a power drill and poured hydrochloric acid into the holes. This, of course, always ended in the death of the subject.

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This girl, after a short hangout in a nightclub, a few drinks and two dances, agreed to go with me to the apartment for another drink (and as she hoped) sex. She got the drink, but she could not even guess that there was a mixture of crushed sleeping pills in the same one. After she came to consciousness, she realized that she was naked and was in an unknown place.
“What do you need that drill?” she asked frantically.
Since she had never heard of Mr. Dahmer, I had to explain to her in detail who he was and what was about to happen to her. She began to cry, behaving quite predictably - thereby giving me short-term pleasure.
“Where do you want me to drill the first hole?” I asked, grabbing her hair.

Shadowslaves - tool time

Photo source: Shadowslaves - tool time

Jeff served as inspiration for dozens of songs; however, this album is the best thing I've ever heard, as the songs chronologically and accurately depict his life and can serve as a kind of documentary.

Macabre - Dahmer album cover

Macabre - Dahmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxLaxQy ... el=Nihilus

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

Documentary (one of many) - "Mind of a Monster"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJG1WWT ... %AAssaDiva

Interview (Jeffrey and his father)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tSxuyM ... ckHamilton

[letvor]

The farmer who fed pigs with women, literally.

Robert Pickton

Fifteen kilometers from Vancouver was a farm that could serve as a set for many horror films,
or if you're Robert Willy Pickton, something even more interesting.

This farmer, an experienced butcher, hunted female victims by searching among prostitutes, drug addicts and other vulnerable categories.
It is interesting to note that Willy and his brother sold part of the family estate for almost two million dollars. He used the money to make it easier to reach the girls
which he took to his trailer where they would engage in BDSM oriented sex. He bought drugs to drug addicted prostitutes in exchange for sex. Most of these girls, of course, were never seen again.

The most interesting part about this killer is the way he disposed of the bodies.
Willy dismembered the bodies. Many pieces of bones, clothing and other items were found scattered throughout his farm. After cutting the body, he gave some parts to the pigs,
and others, together with the waste from the slaughter of animals, were delivered to a waste processing plant. It is believed there is a possibility that some pieces of the victims have even ended
processed for human use. Like many other offenders, Willy kept souvenirs, that is, certain
body parts that were found packed in freezers and buckets.

Photo source: Yandex image search

It is true that we rarely see movies in which pigs appear, but whenever I see a photo of a girl and a pig I wonder how long it would take a pig to eat her.

Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton#

Documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKR_cM ... caSchuster

[letvor]

Albert DeSalvo - The Boston Strangler

DeSalvo

DeSalvo was a victim of his father's domestic violence. He grew up in terrible conditions, witnessing scenes of his own mother being abused daily. Like many of the people we talk about here, DeSalvo spent some time in the military but was discharged due to inappropriate behavior.
Albert was a striking man. It was easy for him to meet women and take them to bed. However, most of his chosen ones couldn't fulfill all the demands of this sexual gourmet, so he quickly turned to the dark side of his fantasies.


Most of his victims were older women, but there were also a few young gems (19, 20, and 23 years old). This offender liked to find unusual ways to use clothing items. He strangled most of his victims with their own nylon stockings. However, he didn't hesitate to use a sash from a bathrobe or to use the handle of a broom or even a glass bottle as an unconventional sex toys.

DeSalvo was also known as the Green Man or The Measuring Man. These were entirely different-conceptualized crimes. During this phase, he would visit the homes of young girls whom he knew were alone, posing as an agent from a modeling agency. He promised them money and fame, asking in return to take their measurements. Later, he would tie them up and sexually assault them.

He was arrested on charges related to being The Green Man (a nickname given because he wore a green work jumpsuit). The rest of his criminal career he voluntarily confessed.

The Green Man

I believe this man had a considerable impact on the industry that we all take such an interest in here.
He met his end stabbed in his prison cell, and that crime was never solved.

For listening, I would suggest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QD2xcKVOH4

Macabre - The Boston Strangler

He'll take her nylon stockings down
And her neck they'll go around
You can't untangle her, from the Boston strangler
He's going to mangle her, the Boston strangler

Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_DeSalvo

Documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_CmSZRBpB8

[hornythumb]

Let's leave reality out. That can put us off topic and risk driving off valued long time members, eg, Pedro.