Customs chatter (all producers)

[frog]

This girl has the best expressions! I can imagine the dialogue between the evil Dr. Squalus and her new victim.

Dr. Squalus: We are going to use you for medical experiments, and then sell your organs on the black market. If you are a good girl, we will be merciful and we won't torture you first.

Her: Seriously?

download/file.php?id=38885&mode=view, she looks amused. . . I don't think anyone would look amused after hearing what the good doctor just said. Or she is not intelligent enough to perceive this is not a school yard game, particularly since she is naked and bound and there is a serious looking woman with a medical gown in the room.

[skullchaser]

This girl has the best expressions! I can imagine the dialogue between the evil Dr. Squalus and her new victim.

Dr. Squalus: We are going to use you for medical experiments, and then sell your organs on the black market. If you are a good girl, we will be merciful and we won't torture you first.

Her: Seriously?

download/file.php?id=38885&mode=view, she looks amused. . . I don't think anyone would look amused after hearing what the good doctor just said. Or she is not intelligent enough to perceive this is not a school yard game, particularly since she is naked and bound and there is a serious looking woman with a medical gown in the room.

Don't worry. Once the clamps go on and she realizes what that grey box is for, her expression changes.

[MAV]

Here are collages of my most recent AOH t0rture customs. While there is no nudity, the outfits are skimpy, the bods are hot, and the action is fairly intense Guessing Torvea Films will release the one with 'buff blondie" Cameron before the Sleeperkid releases the one with Eden.

Torvea released my first AOH torture custom with 'Cameron'/buffblondie for those interested in seeing a hot, fit, blonde get a working over
https://www.torveafilms.com/shop/aoh-in ... n-cameron/

In my opinion she is a tad overdressed for the occasion.
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awesome froggification!
Wonder if you can do the same with the double-D Latina Eden who is oozing out of her bikini

[Floor13]

So pissed.

I'm done with customs.
(Yeah, right, until I get the itch...)

1) Ask for black walls and floors with single light overhead, with examples: Get brightly lit rooms.
2) Aligator clips on the nipples: Get clips on the aerola.
3) Proivide examples of the screams and body action: She moans from the throat like she trod on lego, no body movement.
4) Provided examples of the fear her face is supposed to show: Looks like she is bored.
5) Paid for a headharness ballgag with holes in the gag for drool: No drool, no closeups.


It's just every other bloody time now. The one before this, the actress was great, she got it, but the gag used (without showing me first) was ludicrous, and they added digitial camera shake, which was shit, and I said I'd pay for a cameraman (Sick of static camera).

I just don't understand how many times I provide examples of how she should scream, and why they just say "Urgh" when they are electrocuted. Why do so many fucking studios think electricty doesn't hurt? Why would the enemy torture a soldier with something that doesn't hurt? The whip comes out, and they're screaming, the electrodes come out, and it is like they are tryuing to take a crap without enough fibre in their diet.

So sick of the slightly annoyed expresssion on the actresses' faces as they are kidnapped and left standing, AoH, about to be brutally tortured and raped, and they wiggle their wrists, tut, and act like the barissta didn't put enough milk in their latte.


And that is before the acting. Why is the acting just so bad these days? I mean, I know porn-acting has always been a joke, but it's gotten insane. They are all doing William Shatner impressions, with up-and-down singsong voicesL

"Oh! You are, going, to be, so SORRY, when I have, finished torturing... YoooooooooUUuu!"
Out comes the hitachi and starts vibing her clit.
"No! Damn you! Argh! I'll never talk! Give me all the orgasms you want, I'll never talk!"



I'm just so sick of this utter utter utter shit.
(not trying to shit on other people's kinks, I like stuff that some others will not. But when you repeatedly do not get what you ask for after showing them examples "Just copy this!!!" it just pisses me off that the companies say "Yes, this will do".)


I've bought a few Bondage Liberation films (not customs). That is Elise Graves' studio...
I love Elise as a sub, but she is FUCKING AWFUL as a top. She has zero charisma with the subject, mumbles with zero confidence in her speach, and laughs too much. BUT she does have some good scenes... However, there was one water torture one made with the Darttech guys. They have a woman captive, and for some reason only Elise can get information out of her (No one else can aim a hose at a woman's clit, only Elise can do that).

Imagine a school play, with 5 year old children, who are reading off the script, and have never stood in front of a crowd before:
The 2 guys are saying:
"NO! Don't touch her!!!! We have Elise coming to deal with her!"
"Ho... (Stumbles, checks the script) Holy shit! Elise!!!!!!!!!! Now, now... NoW you're in trouble!"

And that was the take they went with, so shockingly bad but "Yes, that will do, take the money and fuck'em."


Rant over.

[Floor13]

Oh yeah:

6) Dental spreader, force her mouth open: Opens her mouth 2 cm "She was saying it hurt her." YES! NO FUCKING SHIT! THAT'S WHY SHE'S BEING PAID $500.
7) Ballgag in her mouth, make her bite it hard: BALLGAG SITTING ON TOP OF HER FUCKING LIPS "She was saying it hurt her." AND? use something else then for fuck's sake. WHY WOULD I WANT TO SEE A WOMAN WITH A BALLGAG OUTSIDE HER MOUTH RESTING ON TOP OF HER CLOSED MOUTH? Use a bit gag, tie cloth in her mouth. Tape. Anything! You chose the worst possible solution, literally the worst.
8) Tape gag: She screams, mouth open, tape goes into her mouth. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? DO YOU GET THE POINT OF A FUCKING TAPE GAG? IT HOLDS HER MOUTH CLOSED. How are the actress, camera guy, torturer, director (last 3 usually the same guy) unable to grasp that? Especially as I gave you examples.

[MAV]

So pissed.

I'm done with customs.
(Yeah, right, until I get the itch...)

...

Rant over.

Ugh sorry to hear floor. Was it that last producer you talk about who f'd up your custom(s)? First time working with them? That initial time is always a risk, especially if it's a model that didn't yet perform the specific scenarios you requested.

[bdb11112003]

I agree Floor, I'm usually only ever half satisfied with customs, the two best I've ever had done were by Chrissy Marie and she is no longer in the industry. I was slightly happy with MILFGigi but her sets are kind of run there course and there lighting filming is not great and I find her not very good as a dom. I'll never get Cruel World to do one again. Lora Cross is my favorite model but doesn't have the right setup/villains that I am looking for, but I might workout a script with her again since she just moved to a new location.

I was thinking about using RF studios for one or maybe another studio on Clips4sale Bondagio, has anyone every worked with them or had any good experiences?

[yyy02]

So pissed...
I'm just so sick of this utter utter utter shit.
(not trying to shit on other people's kinks, I like stuff that some others will not. But when you repeatedly do not get what you ask for after showing them examples "Just copy this!!!" it just pisses me off that the companies say "Yes, this will do"...

Sorry you had to go through this. When you provide specific examples and they're not only a mile, but a whole county off...

It doesn't sound like this was a "lost in translation" thing either?

[skullchaser]

That's why I use Cruel World and keep the scripts simple and easy to execute. I only have a few rules with them:

1. No whipping. I'm spoiled on the real whippings at Elite Pain.
2. No screaming. Save it for roller coasters and horror movies.
3. No distracting tattoos.
4. No bad party hair dye jobs.

[Floor13]

That's why I use Cruel World and keep the scripts simple and easy to execute. I only have a few rules with them:

1. No whipping. I'm spoiled on the real whippings at Elite Pain.
2. No screaming. Save it for roller coasters and horror movies.
3. No distracting tattoos.
4. No bad party hair dye jobs.

We want the screams, or biting gag screams

But fake whipping... Him grunting as he moves his arm slowly... Nah...

It's a shame they lost their old power-plant location. The rooms are so small now, cameras so close, they can't do fake whipping/perspective shots. Did get a good Tai/Tay whipping from CruelWorld at their old location.


As you say, simple scripts... OUr recent ones were getting complicated... But not the last... Couldn't be more basic "Copy this".



We had 3 customs with PKF, 2 were made, 1 was refunded.
1) Deadly Interogation 5, loved it, Tegan was excellent actress.
2) The Good Soldier: Bits were good, cameraman kept it fresh. But actress was wimpering between tortures, and we specifically asked NOT to do things like that.
3) Third film, the took the money, actress agreed, then "Oh, she doesn't like ball gags, switch to pony-bit" yup no problem, rather have some good drooling biting on a bit than a ballgag that is clearly not really in her mouth. "She doesn't want the cuffs and belts too tight as she has another shoot that night and the next day", well, we wanted skin bulging... Then "Oh, she doesn't want to arch her back from the electricity. And can the electrodes be taped onto her nipples instead of clamps, oh and does she have top be oiled as she doesn't want it in her hair, and does she have to be shaved as she's preparing for a hair-film".

Yeah, fuck off. You saw the script, took $2700, and now are changing it piece by piece expecting us to say "Oh go on then, you've gone this far", got a refund out of them. Saw her in other films after that, and a lucky escape. Just as I described above "Oh, that hurts!" no body reaction.



Recently got into VR, and OMG the acting. THe POV girl-on-girl is terrible, zero eye contact, alway a girl on her back laying on her bed (i.e. the worst way to have a girl go down). THe POV BJ is "OH my god!!! It's so big!!! Oh your cum tastes so good!!! giggle giggle giggle!!!" What the hell happened to the industry?