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same617
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#371 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:06 am

Tyrant wrote:
Pedro wrote:Tyrant:
Give her a tough game, if she completes it, she can get back the money from other games she lost.


Yes, that was my initial idea... she showed no interest. That was the point when I thought I was going to make the same offer for Ariel and Amanda... (if you remember we told them that if neither of them accepted the offer we give the amount to Lucy) the result was COP 6... as you all know by now.


Yes, well she may think that the game will be stacked so hard against her, that it will be impossible for her to win. You must realize that losing so many games will have hurt her confidence quite a bit.

This is why I suggest a smaller guaranteed amount for each round that she successfully completes. This could help entice her to participate as she will know that even if the punishments become too much for her to handle and she has to give up, she will at least get something from it and it won't be entirely in vain.


I think a guaranteed amount of money would encourage the model to quit the game in the first tough round.

I really like the all-or-nothing formula of COP.

It is also true that, as you say, if despite the pains suffered, the model remains with empty pockets, the risk is that she will not return.

A middle ground could be the following:
Only those who have purchased the original movie can also purchase an extended version.
e.g.
Fixed camera for each round, backstage, deleted scenes, short interview with the model and with the domina at the end of the game and more.

The price of this extended version may be fixed
or with a minimum price.
Whoever wants can give more.
All the money would go to the model.

This will reward the model and presumably will be proportional to her performance

It may be that with this formula Ariel ( and not only her ) could have rightly earned a good amount of money.

I'd like to know the opinions of the members of this forum and if they would be interested in spending some extra money to buy a "deluxe" version of their favorite movies as well.

Then of course this thing will be in Pedro's hands .....

Pedro
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#372 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:42 am

think a guaranteed amount of money would encourage the model to quit the game in the first tough round.


Totally agree. Should it happen only once, and it would spread among the girls that you can quit if things start to get rough. They will compensate you anyway...

if despite the pains suffered, the model remains with empty pockets, the risk is that she will not return.


If you think about how many times Lucy returned, you can understand that I don't agree with this one. Also, Lyen lost only once, but returned as soon as her skin fully recovered.

This will reward the model and presumably will be proportional to her performance


I was thinking about something similar recentry regarding Ariel. To give the fans an opportunity to send some donation in the way it is totally transparent. Bitcoin donation would be a perfect solution. If I published a BTC address that could be seen by anybody what amount is raised, and after the deadline I would give that amount to the "arrogant yet sexy diva" making a video record about it... So far I discarded this idea, with the frear it would not generate enough interest... and I don't want to embarrasse her with this possibility...

same617
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#373 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:31 pm

Pedro wrote:

I was thinking about something similar recentry regarding Ariel. To give the fans an opportunity to send some donation in the way it is totally transparent. Bitcoin donation would be a perfect solution. If I published a BTC address that could be seen by anybody what amount is raised, and after the deadline I would give that amount to the "arrogant yet sexy diva" making a video record about it... So far I discarded this idea, with the frear it would not generate enough interest... and I don't want to embarrasse her with this possibility...


I think you did well.
I probably wouldn't have made any donations.
It would have seemed to me to be doing charity ...

On the contrary, after watching the official version of the movie, I would have certainly gladly bought extra content of the same movie, especially knowing that the money would be given to Ariel.

I know that the line between the two things is very thin but for me it makes a big difference.

Tyrant
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#374 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:17 pm

same617 wrote:
I think a guaranteed amount of money would encourage the model to quit the game in the first tough round.

I really like the all-or-nothing formula of COP.

It is also true that, as you say, if despite the pains suffered, the model remains with empty pockets, the risk is that she will not return.



Of course you want to keep the incentive to complete the game. So the higher payout would always go to the model who successfully completes. If they give up, then they can lose a % of their winnings, maybe -50%, maybe -75%. But the point is to give them at least something, even a token amount, so as to avoid creating bad blood unnecessarily on the financial side of things.

It is not good to have a reputation of being a bad boss who does not pay their employees or does not pay their contract workers (a sub is like a contract worker in this case). - Such things get around and not only does the model not come back, but she may warn her friends about it, she might warn model agencies about it, etc. and then it becomes harder and harder to find good talent.

It would still sting to take a loss and to lose some of their winnings, but with at least something to show for it, there will be less of a chance for them to get disgruntled about it. With such a system, there would likely be a higher chance to retain existing models and even a higher chance to find sexy new ones.

Also, there are subs who will push themselves through hard rounds not only for money, but also for their pride or for the challenge.

There is also the case of models who pass out from the whipping, such as what happened to Ariel. She didn't make a decision to quit, she pushed her body to the limit but her brain released chemicals that were out of her control and it forced her to stop. So here is a case where you have a model who is giving it her all but she still doesn't get paid, really through no fault of her own.

Pedro
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#375 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:49 am

If they give up, then they can lose a % of their winnings, maybe -50%, maybe -75%


Believe me that wouldn't work. Govong 50% for the loser would make them returning for another lost game, and they are at their money without really suffering for it...

If you look carefully, I don't think you find too many girls who did not return because they lost their first game. Those very few who did not return, most likely did not come because I did not called them to return...

It is not good to have a reputation of being a bad boss who does not pay their employees


I haven't heard such accusation so far...

There is also the case of models who pass out from the whipping, such as what happened to Ariel. She didn't make a decision to quit, she pushed her body to the limit but her brain released chemicals that were out of her control and it forced her to stop


We discussed this thing since then with Ariel, and she feels that the game was fair. She had some bad decisions. We also discussed that I would be happy to give her a second chance, and even raise the prize pool. We agreed that if she feels she is mentally ready, she will let me know... I will be happy to give her the paycheck if she is able to win the game.

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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#376 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:09 pm

Those very few who did not return, most likely did not come because I did not called them to return...


That reminds me of a question I always wanted to ask. How likely do you think could it be to make girls do a "comeback"?
Are you still in contact with ex elitepain actresses? Or is it absolutely unthinkable that you could make them return? I am thinking e.g. of Tippi. Once they are gone for more than a year it is very unlikely, I know. So I have given up hope for Tippi (bad example I fear). But what about the now leaving girls? AngelBlue, Linda, Lyen, Zazie, Lucy? Do you still try to get them make another movie or do you accept their no as a finale word? Can you make an assessment? If their no is finale do you already cast new girls? We have Yasmine, twin and Luna as new girls. Any plans for further castings?

Pedro
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#377 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:52 pm

Tippi - zero
Angel Blue - zero
Linda - working on it. her ultimate condition: no Ariel.
Lyen - maybe next year.
Zazie - only a little chance
Lucy - currently shows zero interest, but that happened earlier too, and things changed then.

Don't forget that you inquired about girls who appeared in 2 or more films. So the case is not that they lost a game, and they did not come back because they felt they were not compensated. Let's forget about Tippi because she is in a different league, but the others lost only one of their games except for Lucy.
Any plans for further castings?


Time to time we cast new girls, so this is not something exceptional. Whenever our agents find any new possible talents we cast them. If they pass the casting, you probably meet them in a new film. The latest was Luna. She needed about a month after her successful casting to be brave enough to do a full movie.

It's not like we need any special plan for a casting :)

Roshan
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#378 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:34 pm

Pedro wrote:Tippi - zero
Angel Blue - zero
Linda - working on it. her ultimate condition: no Ariel.
Lyen - maybe next year.
Zazie - only a little chance
Lucy - currently shows zero interest, but that happened earlier too, and things changed then.

Don't forget that you inquired about girls who appeared in 2 or more films. So the case is not that they lost a game, and they did not come back because they felt they were not compensated. Let's forget about Tippi because she is in a different league, but the others lost only one of their games except for Lucy.


Who is luna? Do you have any photo of her.
Also, what do you mean by tippi is in a different league? Is tippy doing any other kind of porn now?
Any plans for further castings?


Time to time we cast new girls, so this is not something exceptional. Whenever our agents find any new possible talents we cast them. If they pass the casting, you probably meet them in a new film. The latest was Luna. She needed about a month after her successful casting to be brave enough to do a full movie.

It's not like we need any special plan for a casting :)



Who is luna? Do you have any photos?
Also, what do you mean by tippi is in a different league? Is she doing any other kind of porn now? Her prison punishment show was the first videos I ever watched.

Pedro
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#379 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:05 pm

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Luna is a black magic woman from Brazil, she appeared in the Easter Egg of COP6

Tippi.. well, let's just say she quit the adult industry for good, and I think there is zero chance of her return.

Jlive99
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Re: Next ElitePain Movies

Post#380 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:39 am

Pedro wrote:
IMG_6657.jpg
Luna is a black magic woman from Brazil, she appeared in the Easter Egg of COP6

Tippi.. well, let's just say she quit the adult industry for good, and I think there is zero chance of her return.


Ahhh Yes....Look at Luna's lovely tear streaked face! Thank you for the photo.

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