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July 2002
Name: Wild Bill

Quick technique question for Rick (or anyone else with useful information). When you use duct tape in a scene (as in duct tape on skin) how do you get the tpae off of the skin without the removal being more painful then the scene itself.


Wild Bill

Monday, July 1st 2002 - 01:34:21 AM

Name: g-in-o

My Gawd!!!

Where to begin? Brandi? Our heads bowed in awe we wonder, how the hell does he do it? And Lisa, shaved bare- suction cups to affixed to her nipples- this movie can't come out soon enough! In fifty-nine minutes (Pacific Standard Time)we hit the release date. Let the countdown begin.

And then things REALLY get going. "The Dirty Dreams of Lisa Kinkaid" catering to our collective desires. Contrast the beauty interviewed with her four on the floor defilement- run it back and forth a few times- I know I have. Then imagine what else might be in the film... This one looks like its headed right out of the park!

Monday, July 1st 2002 - 11:10:35 PM

Name: Moth

I don't even know how to put it into words, but that interview is just sensational. A dream come true for someone who's loved Lisa for years. Thanks a million Rick and Lisa.

Tuesday, July 2nd 2002 - 02:06:09 AM

Name: jaeckill
E-mail address: jaeckill@yahoo.de

GREAT! Sometimes a bit hard to understand with my hardware (the PC, not my ears) but GREAT! And the new video? I´m really looking forward to it! It looks like it´s ranking high on the rape scale.

Ralphus, did you already point your pencil for a review?

BTW, Rick, don´t you think 20 bucks for S&H a DVD overseas is a bit tough? I´d like to order from you but that´s too much IMO. Do you send your personal delivery boy or don´t you like europeans? So again I have to find another distributor :(

But thanks for the great vids!


Tuesday, July 2nd 2002 - 10:03:24 AM

Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywood Vampire

Rick~Thanks for the interview w/Lisa. She seems a very down to earth young lady. Had a bit of trouble hearing some of the answers though. Are you still planning to post the interview here also? Definitely one for a seperate interview archive page (If Ralphus would be so inclined).

Very pleased to hear that one of Lisa's fovorite postions happens to be one of mine also...Hanging upside-down from her ankles. Let's keep her happy Rick. Maybe even an upside-down spread-eagle, combining one of her favorites with one of her least. Maybe she'll enjoy spread's more that way.


Tuesday, July 2nd 2002 - 06:04:40 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html

I had trouble hearing her interview, too, particularly the questions Rick was feeding to her, but a transcript would be great, so I hope we get that eventually. I thought it was interesting that apparently someone else mistook Lisa for Jessica Alba, too. I personally don't see the resemblance, but I think both ladies are extremely hot, especially now that Lisa has grown her hair longer (a very good call!)

I think a special section for Lisa's interviews is a good idea, and it will definitely be in my future plans for this site. I have a friend who's helping me with the complicated HTML work, but I don't anticipate this one being a real difficult maneuver.

Tuesday, July 2nd 2002 - 07:45:30 PM

Name: Faith Carpenter
E-mail address: faithcar@earthlink.net

Great job

Tuesday, July 2nd 2002 - 08:37:31 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html


Forbidden Video's latest Brutal production is The Stepbrother, a story of a creepy young man and his bitch of a stepsister. She doesn't like him, he doesn't like her, but it doesn't stop him from spying on her while she's alone in her bedroom.

The first real attempt at showing us how twisted her brother is occurs after she takes some sleeping pills and goes to sleep. He sneaks into her room with his video camera and with the help of a flashlight, thoroughly films his sister's bare body, even fingering and licking at her pussy, and she never wakes up. Those must be some pretty potent sleeping pills! There's also a rather obvious continuity error in this scene, because the time of the digital clock on her dresser actually goes backward at one point. Perhaps the director was trying to give the scene a "timeless" quality?

The next night, Becca invites her attractive brunette friend Kat over to watch television. The creepy brother taunts the girls by throwing popcorn at them and annoying them by filming them with the video camera until they angrily chase him upstairs. Totally frustrated and angry, he devises a plan to get his revenge. He grabs a BB gun, slips on a ski mask disguise and quietly sneaks out of the house. When the girls open the door to let Kat leave, they are greeted by what they think is a complete stranger, silently brandishing a gun at them. He chases them both onto the couch, then duct-tapes both girls' mouths. He properly ties Becca's hands behind her, but he ties Kat's hands in front of her (a classic bad move, but she never attempts to remove her gag). The tyings aren't shown onscreen, unfortunately. With the girls bound, the brother is free to have his way with them, which means removing their panties, fingering them, forced oral sex and yes, even bondage rape, something we've sorely missed from most Forbidden releases. The best scene in the tape is immediately afterward, where he ties Becca to the kitchen table with her legs spread, and he performs oral on her while Kat, with her hands finally bound behind her, services his own dick at the same time. After a mild spanking scene with both girls bent over the couch, the finale is a double blow job with both girls untied, and he cums on their chests. It's only after he laughs that they recognize it was the weird brother all along.

This is one of the better Forbidden releases I've seen, filmed with some real style and with attention to telling a story this time, and shows a lot of promise for the future of where this company is heading. The only real problem, for me, was the casting. The lead actress Becca is an otherwise pretty blonde who nonetheless ventures dangerously close to Freakgirl status with her multiple piercings (ugh!) and three tattoos (triple ugh!), including a rather large one right above her pussy. Why do girls feel they have to mark themselves up like this? Are they under the impression it's actually sexy? I know, I know, it's the new millennium, but I have a hard time getting into a sex film if I'm not attracted to the girl performing. Her friend Kat is very cute, and I would have liked the tape a lot more if it were just her, or even if her role had been switched with the other girl. These are just my opinions; as always, your mileage may vary. This one was a near-miss for me, but certainly not for the content, which should please most people. My grade: B-

Tuesday, July 2nd 2002 - 08:37:31 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html


My questions are answered. My curiosity was piqued after I saw my first two videos from Eyewitness Productions. The first, Deadly Laundry, was excellent. The next, Guilty, had the elements to be great, but nearly blew it with pedestrian direction. How would this next one stand up? Well, let me start by saying this is very good news :)

This new title, Now Hiring, is the first Eyewitness tape I've seen that features multiple victims. The first segment stars the gorgeous Deborah Lewis, a lovely lady with beautiful long flowing red hair down to her ass. She is a secretary working in an office, and she grabbed by a masked stranger who strangles her into unconsciousness. Once she is out, he ties her wrists behind her and puts a bag over her head, taping it on. Then he carries her off.

Now back at his lair, he ties Deborah into a hogtie. Most of the fun of this scene is wasted because she's unconscious at first, then we can't see her face when she comes to because of the bag. Eventually he takes the bag off, and tells her he's going to cut off her tits if she doesn't shut up. He cuts loose her ankle ties, ties a noose around her neck and makes her climb onto a small ladder, which he pulls away and lets her hang. Like the two previous hanging scenes I've seen, it's very realistically done, and this one is even generous with the close ups, my main complaint from last time. And also like the two previous tapes, the hanging scenes go on too long. I guess they figure that hanging is what people want to see, but she's still up there twitching 15 minutes later, which stretches credibility a bit far.

The second segment is with Olivia Simon, and it's a real gem. Number one, Olivia Simon is a beautiful redhead, but in this tape, she wears a blonde wig. Doesn't matter. Now she's a beautiful blonde. She gets grabbed and strangled in her office in another padded sequence, but once she's back at the lair, the real fun begins. Her captor puts in a hogtie and uses the noose to torture her, lifting her off the ground by her neck, letting her dangle, then lowering her to the ground so she doesn't die too quickly. He repeats this action several times, then unties her legs and tortures her some more in the same way, pausing once to tie off the rope so he can expose and grope at her tits, then letting her hang to her death. It's an outstanding segment, well-filmed with lots of tight shots that highlight Olivia's face writhing in pain. It's worth the price of the tape, and Eyewitness vids aren't cheap.

The final segment features Chelsea Poire, a blonde who is not the looker of Deborah or Olivia, but who gives a fine performance nonetheless. She is attacked in her home by the same masked stranger, who strangles her until she's out, then ties her hands behind her and lays her on her coffee table. He opens up her top and uses a jaw separator to pry open her mouth. Then he takes an electric drill and gives her some whacky dental torture! Yikes! They blow the illusion early on when you can notice the drill isn't whirling in close up, but it's still a fun scene, punctuated by her painful screaming when the drill hits enamel. The tape ends with him strangling her with a piece of wire.

This might be the best Eyewitness vid I've seen. Other than some padded scenes that badly needed to be shortened, this tape delivers. It all starts with the casting of two beautiful women and one who's not bad at all, add lots of bondage and torture, and put it together with some fine direction this time, and this is what you get. My grade: A-

Tuesday, July 2nd 2002 - 08:37:31 PM

Name: Scribbler

High Strung (an ole' HOM title) looks cool. Also appreciated the Lisa interview. I could hear Lisa's responses alright, but the questions were indeed soft, and the jungle music soundtrack covered up some stuff. That 60-cycle hum-like synth sfx over the insert shots is getting to be a zfx cliche (and kind of an annoying one!)

BTW, since the interviewer, Rick, is off screen, it'd be very easy to ADR the interview questions. Not necessary for us, but maybe for the new Lisa vid.

Thursday, July 4th 2002 - 02:15:37 AM

Name: Chris
E-mail address: methos1994@yahoo.com

The interview with Lisa (and the intercut footage) is among the best things I've seen from ZFX. Finally, a bit of an "inside" look at ZFX. I'll be ordering the DVD's to see the "out-takes" featuring the lovely Lisa on "Ballista 3". I'm not sure how it's possible, but Lisa in that interview looks hotter than ever. You're the best, Lisa. And Rick, again, I say you're one lucky bastard.
Anyways, here's hoping everyone has a great Fourth of July and let's keep the faith in our soldiers overseas as well as those protecting us at home.

Thursday, July 4th 2002 - 09:41:08 AM

Name: Pablo
E-mail address: Juanpablovillagomez@hotmail.com

I was noticing on forbiddenvideo.com, I really like that one girl in After School Suprise, what is her name? shes pretty hot

Friday, July 5th 2002 - 11:17:08 AM

Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywood Vampire

I checked out Forbidden to see what the girls in "The Step-Brother" looked like after reading Ralphus' review. I noticed they have another new one out called "The Poolman". The girl in this one looks pretty hot (dispite the tatoo on her arm). I'd be much more interested in this one and am curious if anyone has ordered or seen it. Am still very learly of F.V. stuff as the stills are often much better than the actual vids are. Anyone have any feedback on this one?


Saturday, July 6th 2002 - 02:04:31 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://www.forbiddenvideo.com

Pablo: The girl in After School Surprise is named Gauge, and since that debut, she has appeared in two other Forbidden Video releases, the best of which was Black Market Bondage. She is now apparently one of the more popular adult stars in mainstream (vanilla) porn. And you're right, she's a definite hottie.

AvF: A full review of The Poolman will appear on this board shortly. I'll let you know what I think.

Saturday, July 6th 2002 - 06:45:01 PM

Name: lmurau

I liked very much the fierce attitude of the new actress in High Strung; I think she would be a great superheroine in a possible new ZFX movie. But perhaps she should be allowed to be more "heroic" than Ballista, i.e. instead of being easily defeated in the first encounter, she should kick the ass of the bad guys and arrest them before being later captured and tortured for revenge.

Saturday, July 6th 2002 - 08:42:46 PM

Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywood Vampire

Ralphus~Cool! I have a thing for reds, so looking forward to some feedback on this one(even though celophane ties don't do it for me personally).

Lisa's interview revisited...and pushing the limit. Rick~Since Lisa likes the inverted hangs, it prompts me to share another inverted hang I like... and to inquire about your thoughts (and anyone else's) on inversions. Anyway, it's a three limbed hog-tie/inversion where the free leg's ankle is whats hoisted up and the girl hung by. It's a little more extreme, and the legs can be parted where all kinds of nasty things can happen. Thoughts?


Saturday, July 6th 2002 - 09:22:26 PM

Name: Iago

AvF: Oh, I dunno. Cellophane has some pretty good appeal. I liked Rick clear-wrapping bridgette in Ballista 3.... What movie were you thinking of that you didn't like it?

Sunday, July 7th 2002 - 02:40:32 AM

Name: AvF
E-mail address: Hollywood Vampire

Iago~I haven't seen B-3 yet so I can't say on that one. My comment had to do with the stills from "The Poolman" where the victim is celophaned to a chair. IMO cord ties would have been much better. Also, just from the impressions I got from the storyline description matched with the stills, the attacker seems to be an opportunist and to me using celophane in this case would be way too much trouble (and take much too long...unless she was unconsious, which I don't believe she was as I don't remember any reference to that. Haven't seen the movie and I could be wrong on that part) and take way too long (she would have to sit still a long time without putting up a fight or she could just tear the first few layers by pulling away with her limbs). To me it just seems if opportunity knocked (and you don't have the time or comfort of being in your lair), celophane would be the last thing thought of or used. Just my opinion of course.


Sunday, July 7th 2002 - 10:34:22 AM

Name: Sprintus
Homepage URL: http://www.zfx-shockwave.com/main.html


Sadly S&L sales appear to be closing up shop. I should note that I don't KNOW this for sure, however they have recently been selling off their inventory and don't seem to be getting any new product in. If they are leaving the business it is a shame because I have dealt with them before and they have always been very fast and reliable.

The good news is that all of their remaining ZFX videos are going cheap with 4 dollar shipping regardless of quanity ordered. Supplies are thin, but they still have a number of older titles in stock.


Monday, July 8th 2002 - 11:56:16 AM

Name: scott

Is It REAL or fake....
Just curious to know what the common perception is among fans here regarding any and all NON- ZFX
bondage scene and videos discussed containing (allegded) penetration ,rape, forced oral.scenes
I was reading some of the archives from way back and I was struck by something that makes my interpretation of the ( current) discussions here now incohrent. Weird. I'd like a ruling on these things from you guys --- •Are the rape and forced oral scenes actual cocks or are they props/ toys/ FX? Are you sure? •Are dildo /toy/other implement penetration scenes real? Do they show the actual insertion ( of orafices being trespased upon and spased upo insertion and advancement moving into the body) or is it just a before shot of the item about to be inserted and another of the portion that wouldn't fit? •Does it matter ( to the viewer) whether or not these scenes are actual sex acts being shown or mererly crafty camera work, good acting and effective illusions being filmed (ie.chopped up pieces of rubber dick pressed flattly against female openings while the victim is screaming in agony) ?

The reason I ask is because, frankly, I'm completly confused by the discussions especially when they're about brand new stuff by new producers with no recognized names of folks whose work I know. and have followed . For example .If someone says they WISH that some video company would show bondage rape-- I take it mean that they wanna see a bound babe getting pooned by a LIVE dick...as in " fucking". I've seen some import stuff and so when someons tells about some import video scene of a brutal bondage fuck scene or violation with live black eelsl, I know that they're talkng about the real thing--I've seen it-it was real..But when someone tells of similar video scenes ( as described above) by US producers they've actually watched, I'm inclined to be skeptical, to ask more questions and until I can confirm them bymy own inspection, to stay away from buying them(even though I'd like to)..Its just impossible for me to speculate.

I read the current FV reviews and without any vaidation via my own inspection of these films, I'm imagining these scenes to be verbatim- meaning being explicit , raw, real and astoundingly bold.(if not notrious).But is this the right perception to have...I dunno. But then when I go back and read the archives' discussions or reviews of something I can validate (ie. a ZFX flick that I own or have seen a half dozen times) the same terminology and vivid descriptions of these same sorts of acts, to me, merely helps to embellish what I already know is the fictional sequence and compelling talent with which Rick operates within the law to make his cool and fun FX...

I'm reminded of a saying I heard years ago, perhaps at a Peter Drucker lecture or something which applles to this-
"You see only what you look for You recognize only what you know." Well, I know a live dick from a rubber one.and whether a girl is tied up or not .But I can I have no idea what you folks are actually describing in these recent threads. And it matters a whole bunch to me whether I'm buying & watching fake or real scenes. for 3 reasons---
1)its important and also interesting to me to know precisely where the state of the
art actually is as a photographer as well as a fan.
2) I expect there to be a huge disparity in erotic potency and production quality between fake and real
3) I wanna know whether or not any porn I might order online and bring into my law abiding home is,
in fact, illegal and could possibly send me to prison in the event that Ralphus' descriptions and the ensueing discussions here about the flicks were indeed accurate.

This is a situation that some producers might wish they could gloss over, or punt away on first down with a
"don't ask -don't tell" atttitude....
"Hey, If it looks real and you think its real then buy it and enjoy it. (smile)!" .Well, that's lovely, but its not trivial question to ask---
"Hey is that REAL DICK in your flcik or is just a visual trick stolen from brother Rick?"
Do the extrme bdsm videos made in the US that you're watching and in possession of, at least have disclaimers in their credits or their packaging /labeling anywhere stating that tthe scenes are fictional and essentially fake similar to ZF'X's language? Any similar language of this type? Hmmmm?

Not to single out FV exclusively here at all-- the issues/questions I'm asking apply to all US producers but I must say,FV does have some curious and innovative language in their website discliamers which sort of raise the hairs up on the back of my neck just a twing. Of course they may be perfefctly upstanding and legit in every way Howevr they seem to think in terms of "videos we've aquired the rights to " as opposed to "videos we shot /produced and are the SOLE creators of ". It begs the question -Who makes their stuff and where was it made? And is it "REAL" penis action? Its all good and well to know that they have model releases on file which they believe to be legit and truthful and confirm that the people in the vids were18 yrs of age etc.etc etc and suggest they're in compliance with one particular section of the law. .Its a whole other discusion ,however, when you're willing to stand forth and blaze a big fat disclaimer across the screen that says that WE made this stuff ourselves-- its sci -.fictional and was made using tricks, FX, illusions and professioal props." Rick 's flicks does in his stuff.

IMO since this place is meant for be a place to discuss extreme fetish videos, and seeing how the market is moving into (allegdedly) more extreme and more risky content , it seems prudent to make a simple inspection for any such diclaimers or claims to be REAL, on stuff ( US made/UScopyright owned) you buy online as well as to make it known to us here whenever discussing videos which fall this (as described above) more extreme cutting edge relm of fetish porn
Otherwise, its real easy to get (all of us) into trouble o rat least just keep us confused as we try to speculate and compare what's fake and what's real.

I mean, god forbid, as it is now, much of this board's content can be easily miscontrued as I said earlier And it would seem to lend itself to some REAL easy vice defective work with REAL textbook elements like " probable cause" and "search warrants" being issued.Gulp.I'm no F.Lee Baily over here, but is it not reasonable that any Barney Fife can lurk here, read that new FV flick review and rely upon Ralphus experienced eye and expertise to determne that there's something a FVtat's worhty of an investigation? I mean its obvious he said Olivia was hanged to death he was desrcing a fictional cenen 'cause he discussed the technical apsects of the illusion and reiterated it to be an effective illusion ...plus the girls hs been hanged to death here afew times now : ) But bondage fuck scenes are actually what? Ae they REAL fuck scenes with bondage or not?

Monday, July 8th 2002 - 11:21:11 PM

Name: Nick Long
E-mail address: nicklong@the-onramp.net
Homepage URL: http://www.zfx-shockwave.com

Rumors - rumors. HMmmm.... S&L Sales is NOT going out of business. We've simply decided for many reasons not to carry ZFX any longer and are selling out the ZFX/Shockwave stock we have in inventory. Just a business decision.

Our video-bondage.com site is still operating and so is Kerri's site at kerridowns.com and those will continue. We've been on several other projects and have been considering what direction S&L Sales will take - if any. We're in no hurry. We've enjoyed many years with lots of fine customers and had some really fun times.

Just one small example of the many reasons for our decision - as many of you are aware, the releases for ZFX have fallen to next to nothing. One, maybe 2 a year. Can't run a biz on 1 new product a year. Also, the pic at the entry page to this forum would be prohibited for a ZFX retailer to use for selling the product. Retailers are now permitted to only use the complete boxcover as a sales tool. Nothing else. No other pics of any kind. Hard to do business that way.

The owner of fetish.com (another ZFX retailer) has the following statement on his website - "Note: The maker of these videos has threatened to sue us if we show more than one little tiny cover shot...I guess he is not big on making sales!!" So..., we decided not to do ZFX business at all.

To all of you who have been ZFX customers over the years - our sincere thanks and best wishes. Nick & Kerri

Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 03:24:04 AM

Name: Sprintus


You?re right, I did start a rumor, didn't really mean to. On the other hand if all you sell on that site is ZFX videos and you're not going to carry them anymore it certainly gives the impression that you?re going out of business, yes?

Anyway as I said in my post I hate to see it. You have been a good reliable supplier. I am in the frustrating position of agreeing with both you and Rick. I know that Rick has had to expend a great deal of time and energy protecting his products from unscrupulous businessmen, as well as expanding his product line (DVD's, Streaming, ETC.). Meanwhile, legitimate distributors have no doubt been hurt by the more stringent rules and lack of product. It all makes sense, it's just a shame.

I'll sign off wishing you both well, I hope that now that Rick seems to be over the hump on the new offerings, that his output will again increase. I hope that whatever direction S&L takes is a successful one, I'll certainly keep my eyes open to both of you.


Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 06:17:29 AM

Name: Damien

For a long time, I thought noboby (or no body) could be cuter then Lisa ('s). I was wrong....or was I???? Nothing I ever saw was as cute as the 'new', long-haired Lisa! Oh MAN!...

'nuff said.

IMO the only reason Rick still is in business is Ms. Kinkaid.


Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 07:28:09 AM

Name: Steve

Hello Guys, This is Steve from forbiddenvideo - In regards to the post below about actual penetration, you make it sound like there is a written law somewhere about this. There is NOT. Our videos are not so much about bondage. They deal with blckmail, dreams, etc. We do not even get into bondage that much at all. Very tame stuff compared to ZFX. We work with two producers cery closely. We approve all models before the shoot, and get model releases signed by them as well as a video deisclaimer from them stating it was all acted, and they had fun doing it. Many US producers are pushing the limits. Look at Extreme Associates. Has anyone here seen their "Forced Entry" tape? 10X rougher than any forbiddenvideo tape. Our videos are more like short acted films, with a slight bondage aspect and XXX sex. With real dicks, as in any normal porn video. Our videos are not illegal, as there is no set law for a porn video, except of course child porn, which should be prosecuted! The only way a porn video can be prosecuted is if it is found obscene by a jury. During teh clinton years there were something like 4 obscenity prosecutions. Reagan had 26. Where is it heading? Im not sure, but I feel we have teh right to create a product that portrays fantasy, as long a sno one was hurt, and everyone willingly participated, which all of our models do. It's weird you get so many guys here whining about wanting to see real bondage with real sex, but when we do show real sex, we get people saying its to tame, or not enough bondage. We are not trying to make extreme bondage flicks! Some of our videos do not have any real sex at all (trick or treat) , some have no bondage at all (bad day for danielle) and some have sex and light bondage fantasy (stepbrother, poolman) - I found your post confusing as you seem to think just becuase ZFX uses Rubber dildos with extreme bondage and torture it is OK, but since we have light bondage with real sex it is not. We show real sex, and we use professional adult film stars who do this stuff every day. We follow all written laws, pay our taxes and just try to create something that is different. Its all about fantasy. Steve

Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 08:47:07 AM

Name: Rick
E-mail address: zfx4u@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://www.zfx-shockwavevideo.com

Hello to all,

I'm starting to feel like Charlie Brown around here hehe. Maybe Ralphus should change this to the NAysayers forum....

Damien:Weren't you just saying something about how you were unsure what YEAR High Strung would be released......=D Im sure Ms Kinkaid will be most pleased to hear she is responsible for my survival! Damien and I dont agree on much, but one thing we do agree on is that Ms. Kinkaid ROCKS!

Nick and S&L:Nick came to a decision to cease selling ZFX and Shockwave products, or sellout of them, S&L continues to operate and Nick has his own lines of stuff he is selling. I dont agree with some of his conclusions, but nonetheless I wish him well and much success in the future=)

Oh Scotty Boy:Every time I read your posts I get a good chuckle. You sound like someone desperately trying to start trouble and spread misinformation. Lest anyone out there be scared by your suppositions, it is not illegal for a consumer to buy or possess any adult material other than child porn. Bound or not, penetration or not, makes no difference legally from a consumer stand point. Also, there is no law limiting what can be shot as far as specific acts, either on a private or professional level, other than the aforementioned child porn. US citizens buying adult material should not be concerned in the least that they would end up in prison for buying adult material. This was a ruling by Supreme court years ago and it is the law of the land. That said, people need to buy what they are comfortable with. Now, where do I send my bill for this valuable legal advice?

Thats it for now, working on new stuff at my usual snails pace;)


Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 11:26:47 AM

Name: Steve
E-mail address: directstrategies@qwest.net
Homepage URL: http://www.forbiddenvideo.com

BTW, we have a video arriving in August called "Open House" that you guys will love. Take it easy everyone, and as Rick pointed out, there is no way for you to be prosecuted for buying porn! That is ridiculous. Thanks for the reviews Ralphus, the new one should of arrived to you today. Later! Steve

Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 01:09:12 PM

Name: Sprintus


Is it real, or is it Memorex?

While I realize of course, that in the porn industry the difference between a performance and a documentary is pretty thin, and that some things are exactly what they appear to be, I ALWAYS assume that it is a performance. I am inured by years of Hollywood screen magic that has proven to me that anything can be faked. To this end whenever I watch Schwarzenegger blow someone away on screen the worst thing I can imagine in reality is that the (Dead) actor involved is now out looking for yet another job.

I never even entertain the possibility that a woman being brutally attacked, raped, or tortured in a video is actually being hurt. I always figure that she is,

A.) Working

B.) Being well paid

C.) Quite possibly having a good time.


D.) All of the above.

I want it to look real, and I am always somewhat disappointed if it doesn't. But I never believe for a second that it IS real.

Am I wrong? Of course I'm wrong. Sometimes. People have really been hurt or even killed in films (Hollywood or otherwise) and I am certain a few actual rapes have made their way into the porn market. But I seriously doubt that it has happened as often as Ashcroft would have you believe. The risks and dangers involved in filming a crime far outweighs any profits you are likely to make from it (at least in the U.S.). Faking it is just too easy.

As far as the dicks vs. dildos matter, I suspect that it has more to do with the additional health and safety issues than any legal matters.

As for the producers that are unwilling to share their techniques I'm not a bit surprised. Rick is the only person I have ever seen in the business that is so willing to answer fan's questions about his work. I suspect the others either consider their silence intriguing or more likely, don't give a damn.

Finally, I never worry about arrest. I'm not a celebrity, I don't view kiddie porn, and as Rick pointed out, customers are not at risk. Besides anti-porn cases are losing a lot of their charm with the public. America likes porn, America buys porn, and America rents porn. Watching the government trying to crush anything that is not universally disdained (like kiddie-porn) is mostly viewed as Big Brother coming down on the little guy.


No, no Rick. We should call it Bring out the Gripes Dream book.

Fear not Rick. We like you, we really do, and we like your products, and we hope you continue to produce them until you're old and silly.

Oh sure, we would prefer it if you produced each one of our individual personal fantasies (preferably in 3-D fully interactive virtual reality). But we also accept that until then you are one of the best in the business. That?s why we're all hear to complain :-)


Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 01:56:42 PM

Name: Max

It is pleasing to see that there are deep thinkers out there in the worl that enjoy, appreciate, and publicly laud their fetish. I say pleasing because mainstream opinion would place folk such as myself in jail, or worse. As a result, my own fears of persecution would have me believe that i am alone in my "perversions". Thus happening upon this forum makes me feel a little more at ease with myself. Thank you!

Tuesday, July 9th 2002 - 07:04:55 PM

Name: Sprintus

So, I was publicly lauding my fetish the other day when suddenly..... :-)

Welcome aboard Max.

I'm not sure how deep the thinking goes around here, but you did make a point I would like to comment on. I think you are under a rather common misconception that us fetish lauders are far from the almost mythical 'Mainstream'. I think if you look around you'll notice that a lot of the mainstreamers are jumping the fence.

You are not alone,

A poll by Dr. Marty Klein in 1998, showed that, 30% of the men and 32% of the women have tied someone up or have been tied up during sex.

18% of the men and 20% of the women have used a blindfold during sex.

49% of the men and 38% of the women have spanked or have been spanked as part of sex

A survey by E. Hariton (1972) found that 49% of women fantasize about submissive scenarios during sexual intercourse with 14% doing so frequently. A less formal survey in 1997 indicated these numbers were on the rise.

55% of females and 50% of males reported having responded erotically to being bitten (Kinsey, Martin)

G.V. Hamilton's marriage habits survey reported that 28% of men and 29% of women admitted they derived "pleasant thrills" from having some form of "pain" inflicted in them.

Porn is practically the national pastime,

According to AVN, Adult films made up 29% of the video rentals for 2001, 40% of these were chosen by women. Also according to AVN, Adult films generated 14 billion dollars in revenues last year, an all time high.

You are unlikely to wind up in jail or worse,

Hugh Grant, Rob Lowe, Pamela & Tommy Lee, Jimmy Swaggart, Bill Clinton, all had sex scandals that probably would have eviscerated their career's 20-25 years ago. But they are all doing just dandy.

While I certainly understand your desire for privacy, the mainstream (if indeed their ever really was one) is evaporating. A few clingers to the contrary, your 'perversions' would generate very little interest to the 'New mainstream'.


Wednesday, July 10th 2002 - 11:38:38 AM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com

Sprintus, Thanks for your kind welcome. Your reply required some effort, and I appreciate the energy you put into it. I apologize in advance for being a *newbie*, but as such, I reserve the right to ask the same old inane questions, and make the same lame statements that newbies have made since the dawn of the Internet Age. Thus, feel free to cease further reading, but who knows, there may be a gem or two in my writings. Sprintus, I found your statistics fascinating, but recall the old adage, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics". The source of this saying lies in the fact that statistics are often quoted out of context. For example, a sample question in the survey may have asked "Have you ever enjoyed having your nipples nibbled?". Generations of retelling this question would exhibit Fisherman's Creep, and the word "nibbled" may well be replaced by "bitten". Having said that, I believe that the statistics then bear little weight on your argument. As an aside, a significant percentage of the populations would answer positively to "Have you ever been sufficiently angered toward someone such that you wanted to hurt or kill them?". Go on, admit it, you probably said *yes*. Even Mohandas Ghandi would reply in the positive. But answering *yes* hardly makes us potential killers. It appears to me that most of the questions asked in the survey were about mild imaginative-fantasy bondage, not the extreme bondage that is the focus of this forum. I would like to see a survey with questions similar to the following: 1) Are you fascinated and drawn to repeated viewings of the stories shown in ZFX (etc) films? 2) Have you had this fascination for many years? 3) Have you participated (more than once) in activities similar to that shown in ZFX (etc) stories? Etc, etc, etc. Many more pointed questions could be asked. But my point is, that if such a modified survey was held, then the "statistics" would present a markedly different view, and those with this fetish are so few, they show as mere noise in the background. Or am I wrong? Does a significant percentage of the population get a woody watching these films? As a newbies, I do not think so, otherwise, ZFX films would sell in Sam Goody for $11.99. I do not wish to enrage anyone by the preceding discussion, and if I have come across as yet another lame newbie, please have patience with me. We all have to crawl before we can walk. Thanks for reading this far.

Wednesday, July 10th 2002 - 06:42:14 PM

Name: Sprintus


My goodness we certainly got energized didn't we?

Perhaps I didn?t state my point well. Let me try again.

ZFXers (for lack of a better term) may not be IN the mainstream, but we are not far FROM the mainstream, and the ?mainstream? is more or less tolerant of our little group.

I base this view on growing evidence (which is all a survey really is) that many people these days engage in practices similar to ours either directly, or vicariously through porn.

I also noted that sexual tolerance is growing, people are far more accepting of many alternate sexual choices than they used to be.

Your contention seemed to be that we are so far outside the norm, that if the mainstream ever found out about us they would grab the torches and pitchforks and come knock, knock, knocking at our front doors.

How about we do a small survey on someone you trust implicitly. Let?s just poll you.

Lets look at a few different sexual choices that have hands down ruined peoples lives, ended careers, and even gotten people killed.

Take for example Homosexuality. There was a time in my lifetime that admitting to being gay was akin to walking into a Hell's Angels bar and yelling "I think all you pussy bikers suck!" While there certainly is still a given risk to coming 'Out', It has nowhere near the dangers or consequences it once had. If Rock Hudson, John Wayne, or Liberace had been exposed during the height of their career?s they would have been ruined. Even now it carries some costs, but nothing like it once did.

Anal sex. Once a crime in every state (still is in some), Getting caught has ruined a number of lives and careers.

How about cunnilingus? A crime in 14 states at last count, (Alabama enforced it as late as 1995). Would you believe there are people STILL in prison for this? Most of us manage to skate by without being turned in though.

Now for the survey...

If you found out that the hot looking secretary in your office was a lesbian would you petition to get her fired?

If one of your friends told you how much his wife liked it when he stuck it in her where the sun don't shine. Would you call the cops and have him arrested?

How about if you found out that the action hero you admired at the movies gave his girlfriend the dancing tongue? Wouldn't you stop watching his films and urge others to do so?

So.............How did you do?

What kind of God fearing American are you if you don't want to ruin someone?s life over there sexual preferences?

Answer: An average one.

In fact if you answered no to the questions stated above, ?you may be? in the mainstream. Oh, perhaps you have a few views outside the norm, but most people do so what?s the point?

I'm not contending that the average person watches ZFX, what I'm saying is the average person doesn't really care that much if you do or not. I believe that since most people have a few kinks in their sexual armor this tends to make them more forgiving, and less judgmental about the kinks of others.

I will be quick to grant you that a significant number of people still hate. Some of them are in positions of power and should be watched closely. They hate blacks, Jews, gays, and 'perverts' like you and me. But people like Fred Phelps, Jerry Falwell, or, John Ashcroft no longer reflect the mainstream, they are the aberration.

Things have changed over the years, the current mainstream is a lot more tolerant than you think.

Oh BTW, regarding your theoretical survey, I don?t see the quandary. We ARE all potential killers. Almost any person placed in the right circumstances would kill. No doubt in my mind.

And yes, I was just kidding about John Wayne.


Thursday, July 11th 2002 - 11:07:29 AM

Name: jaeckill
E-mail address: jaeckill@yahoo.de

Max, I felt like you when I first read this forum. "I´m not alone."

I agree with Sprintus in saying that the roles had been changing. Still I think that most people would call us "perverts" because we want to watch naked women tied, tortured and raped.

In opposite to this common understanding IMO a pervert is somebody who looses control about his sexual fantasies and starts commiting crimes in real life (and I hope all of you agree to me at this point). In this case I´d say hunt him down and put him into jail because he is a danger for other people and their basic rights.

But fantasies are private property and talking about them is a basic right. So welcome to this forum and have fun.


Friday, July 12th 2002 - 06:24:14 AM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com

Sprintus, jeackill,

OK, I capitulate. You've convinced me that my own fantasies (or someone else's perversions) are within the norm of social adjustment. But I still think my fantasies of a restrained beautiful woman being taken simultaneously by three men will raise eyebrows a little higher than visions of consentual sex between two men or anal sex with the Missus.

Not to bore anyone, I suspect then that the guilt that I feel when I indulge in these fantasies is more a result of issues that I have to deal with. 'Nuff said, I'll save that for the confidant.

You did raise the issue of hate, which is a perversion that I find intolerable. Having said that, I could well foresee the Mainstream accusing us of hating women, if we like to see them as (helpless) victims of torture. How would you respond to that?

How do we rationalize this? My own perversion of seeing a young, tight-bodied and gorgeous woman (thank you Lisa Kincaid) being tortured is both fascinating and exciting, but the thought of similar violence on anyone else (man, woman, animal, etc) is abhorrent. This is why I am confused. Maybe this is just another of my issues that I need to work on.



Friday, July 12th 2002 - 01:11:42 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html

Max, Sprintus, jaeckill: Interesting discussion. I think the fact that each of you post on this board is conclusive proof that you are ALL perverts. One of my all-time favorite lines came from the TV show MASH. Discussing another man, someone exclaims:

"He can't be a pervert. I know because I'm one and he's never at the meetings!"

Likewise, this board is for perverts, it's read by perverts, and if you weren't one, you wouldn't be here. I'm proud to admit I like seeing naked chicks tied up, raped and tortured, too. Would the average ZFX flick be abhorrent to your average John and Mary Beercan? Probably. Geez, one could imagine the backlash if the mainstream media ever got hold of a ZFX tape or even passed along a transcript of what the video contains, like one of my reviews, for instance. They would try to lump it among with child porn to try to show the public how truly horrible porn is. I could just hear a newscaster reading off the shocking headlines:

"Realistic videos of women tied up...raped...tortured...This is what passes off for men's adult entertainment today."

Believe it or not, even in this age of the Internet, I'll bet there are millions of people who would be truly shocked by how harsh bondage tapes like ZFX are, and that people would pay good money to see these sorts of depictions on film. Still, I think the net has desensitized people somewhat, because virtually every perversion known to man is available somewhere on the net, if you want to seek it out. All this board has done, in a small way, is bring together those among us who have such violent fantasies, so that we can discuss these topics amongst ourselves without any fear of looking like a creep in the eyes of the "normal" world. You like to see innocent girls slowly stripped, bound and gagged, taken by force and whipped until they pass out? Guess what? On this page, being a pervert is normal. So by all means, revel in it, guys!

And courtesy of Rick Masters, here's a pic from the newly released ZFX tape, High Strung. Hmmm....looks like pretty perverted stuff. I like that! :)

Friday, July 12th 2002 - 07:51:50 PM


Great discussion guys. A very interesting read from both of you. But I'm going to go along with Ralphus in that I'm happy to be a perv. Just look at that new pic at the top of Brandi Dukes tied up with the action just about to get rolling. HOLLY SHIT THAT'S HOT!!! To paraphrase Eddie Murphy from Coming To America, "if lovin this is wrong, then I-I-I-I-I-I-I don't wana to be right." (^_^)

Max, the way I see it, life is just to short to feel guilt about our fantasies.There are just to many real problems to deal with to get caught up about what we fantasize over when we finally do get some free time. As long as you know your not some raving lunatic that's going to go out and really do this shit, why feel guilt over it, just sit back and enjoy the show. I know I do. (^_^)

Saturday, July 13th 2002 - 10:11:37 PM


Speaking of the new vid, (or DVD as we can say at last. Yeah Rick) any ETA on a review Ralphus?

Saturday, July 13th 2002 - 10:32:06 PM

Name: Chris
E-mail address: methos1994@yahoo.com

I've taken an interest in the "are we pervs, and should we be ashamed?" debate here. The simple fact is that ZFX, to most, would be shocking and abhorrent. Remember when the "Guinea Pig" tape was investigated by the FBI after Charlie Sheen saw it? Now, anyone with half a brain could tell it was fake. But when you are simply not used to it, it can be shocking.

For myself, my bondage interests grew out of the old tv-movie bondage and moved on to rather tame "bondage" flicks that just had a girl wiggling in ropes.

But, as time moved on I wanted more. Luckily for me, ZFX was just starting out and I found those tapes gave me more of what I wanted. More to feed my fantasies. Become desensitized to one thing, you need another.

Now, ZFX has remained a favorite of mine for about 10 years now (I've spent a small fortune, Rick!) But there are times I need more than ZFX can offer.

So, I turn to the internet and find some more extreme bondage entertainment. Insex.com fed it for a while, but now even that's turned me cold lately (not all the time, but Insex definitely is past it's prime.)

Where to go? The more hardcore you want, the more hardcore you'll seek out. I've seen some of the hardest, involving rape and possible snuff vids (most obviously fake, but one still gives me chills as I have no idea if it was fake or not.)

Basically, much like life, when you see too much of one thing you grow cold to it. You want more, want to feed that fix more. Now, I'm pretty vanilla in real-life. I don't profess to be a "weirdo" who is an outcast in society. But, in the fantasy realm, who doesn't think about it?

You're home alone, there's a knock on the door. You notice the neighbors are not at home as you walk to the door. You see a young teenage girl selling something or other. You glance around, you know nobody will notice.

Now, this is not about acting on the impulse. But the fact remains you can, and will, think about dragging that girl inside. Tying her up, gagging her, and raping her in the basement. You'll imagine keeping her bound in a closet, using her for whatever you might desire. "What, a girl missing in the neighborhood? How horrible!"

Fantasies are fantasies, we all have them. We all have our dark sides, no matter how we try to hide from them. It's what makes us human. Why do I get off watching Lisa Kinkaid tied and gagged and in distress? Well, one is SHE'S FUCKING HOT AS HELL! and two, it simply turns me on. The power aspect of it.

ALL men, for the most part, would be turned on by what we enjoy. Sure, others enjoy being shit on by women and I don't get that at all. But most will admit to being turned on when they see a pretty girl tied up and gagged and abused. Why? Because something primal enjoys it. Something deep inside wants it.

And, in today's society, there's little chance for a man to show any power. To show any dominant traits. To quote Tyler Durden "We are a generation of men raised by women."

I don't mind my fantasies or my interests. If I met a girl who was turned on by being tied up, I'd consider myself lucky. It's natural for men to be the aggressor and women to be the submissive. Not to say women should be treated like slaves, but the basic desire within us is to conform to those roles nature set for us so long ago.

Am I a perv? Maybe. But life is about living. I know I can function in society just fine. And if I never get to tie my girlfriend or wife to the bed and fuck her brains out while she's choking on her wet panties, so be it.

But there's always the fantasy, and she's always around the corner. Driving at night, seeing a woman walking alone, knowing no one will hear her scream.

That's fantasy, not reality. And that's what makes fantasy so appealing (and why I pay Rick). Fantasy is always more pleasing than reality. Because it's something we know we CANNOT do.

Unless you're Rick, who gets to live a life I'm eternally jealous of!

Keep the fantasy alive

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 11:39:45 AM

Name: scott

Chris-- Except for your view that most men would be aroused by seeing females in bondage,IMO your post drives home the points that have been raised in this thread quite well. You 'true confessions"of fantasizing about or at least recognizing the potential to fantasize / contemplate actually perpetrating upon some little brat selling cookies ..

Or better even more more feasible --maybe swooping in on some pretty lady in the auto section of Kmart who's visibly confused about the complex science of motor oil , or windsheild washer fluid : ) or STILL BETTER YET has a burnt out highlight and has no clue as to how to replace it and would be most appreciative of ANY kind and knowledgable male stranger who would take the time to help her and go out into that dark lonely parking lot with her and fix her car and then strangle the bitch unconscious with a set of jumpercables and tier up ankles andn wrists with some bungie cords and drag her home! : )

I'm gonna push you buttons here---I'm a single guy ( attractive and clean cut with a very corporate/ white collar yuppy appearance) and accept for the violent part I added, I actually met a well dressed young mommy at kmart who needed a fuse and I DID get to follow me home for an afternoon of (consentual) BDSM!! ANd I fucked her all day until school let out!! ; ) I've met 'em at 7-11's, gas stations,and ohhh liquore stores are ALWAYS a sure bet. : )

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 02:12:43 PM

Name: scott

Rick Savage Videos--- Does anyone here watch'em? As most may know, he and his brother Hershel are old time veteran hardcore vanilla porn stars. Ole Rick started getting onto BDSM in and old flick entitled " Building Mistress( i forget her name) Dungeon" starring Holly Ryder years ago and soon ventured out on his own as a producer of BDSM videos .

If you're not familair with his stuff,some of its worth a look but be warned here and now-- This ain't ZFX quality production nor does it resemble ZFX or any other hi-tech, FX's-rich , story based , full length flicks. What you get, is some very low budget ( pause button editing) but good visual quality amateur style an.talent REAL ACTUAL BDSM. IMO,what makes Savages stuff so much fun is Old Rick himself!! The guy's a a serious scsry looking sinister-faced but cynical dude with an improvosational wit and rolling sarcasm that will make you expolode with laughter at any spontaneous moment as he's workin'over his submissives All of his stuff is shot fron a tripod which gets bumped into knowcked over ocxcassionally : ) as he's working..

No music .no script no fancy Bil lMajor's -style fake dungeons with granite- bolder-'dungeon wall paper or fickering electric torches-- just Rick, narrating what he's gonna do to his submissives while these girls are not sure when giggle or when to be shitless with fear...its a REAL personable and LIVE intertaction that can be very very erotic.

The mos recent Savageg flick I saw was his latest "breast bondage/torture" video which has two newbie girls--One who is part japanese but looks more Italian,is absolutely stunning .SEVERE TIT bondage and contorted positions in bondage that she gets very aroused by ( all of this is new stuff for her as you can tell and finally Rick instructs her to tell the viewers what it FEELS like to have her ttis so tightly bound as he picks up his little camera andn gets in close to inspect the thin twine he uses to get her d-sized tits glowing and shiny and hard Damm]['m she looks HOT!!.

next ,he'got her tied in bed and works her pussy over with toys until the cums a few times.She's obviously wishing he'd just climb on top of her and ride her like a Japanese dirtbike (Vroooom!!) .

The next scene is more severe. He found a baby ,first timer,19yr old heavy set girl apparently a young mommy too 'cause she's lactating a bit) with natural DD size titis. He starts by flogging her tits as she stands still with arms tied behind her back.She's a true baby-- she giggles at everything he says ( but the guy does say some funny shit )and she does her best to be compliant and accept his brutal treatment upon her tits as they jump and sway with each hard blow. He is relentless--. he whipe these tits until they are glowing and brusied and she's standing there trying to smile as tears well up in her eyes. This is HOT..

Next he begins to use his bare hand to FIERCELY slap these huge tits from all direcctions until they are absolutely ruined and nearly black with fresh deep bruises!! Next he ties them up in a very deliberately sloppy and lewd manner and then zooms in on them to inspect his work more closely as they converse about how it feels and looks. Next ,he's got her bent ovee a Univeral™ benchpress./ lat excercise machine with her nipples tethered with thin ropes and he commands her try and lean back to stand up straight which pulls hard at her poor nipples until she's unable to procede ( scene is cut here) Finally a couple more scenes and postions in which we see the sevrere damage he's inflicted upon this newbie's poor DD tits... .

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 03:44:15 PM

Name: scott

Rick Savage's "Extreme Tit Torture 5 " is the name of that flick..for those intertested.

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 05:31:26 PM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com

As Grouch Marx said: "I wouldn't belong to a club that had me as a member"

I guess that makes me one of the gang :)

Pervertedly yours,

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 06:44:43 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html

Re: Rick Savage: Sorry, this guy is annoying. I've only seen two of his tapes, Cheerleader Bondage Hell several years ago and Titantic Tit Terror 2 this past year. While the content in both vids was relatively harsh, he nearly ruined the latter tape, IMO, with his constant string of unfunny one-liners, trying to act real cute for the camera. It's like he thinks he's the real star of the show, and not the woman with her tits tied up. Guess what, I didn't buy the tape to see you, "Master" Savage. Best to dump the wise-ass commentary and get down to the serious business of torturing your subbie's tits :)

Howie: Regarding a new review, I have a lot of irons in the fire right now, but I'll be taking a look at High Strung this week. I'm still waiting on a copy of Forbidden's The Pool Man with the foxy redhead that AvF was drooling over last week. Both reviews should come shortly, so stay tuned to this page.

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 06:48:36 PM

Name: scott

I'd say that your pespectives of Savage are accurate. He does prokject himself as being a sort of "Circus Ring Master" with his somewhat over emebllishing style and constant narration while he works. But I think he does this, in part , to reinforce the models' sense of trust and the idea that this *is* a dramticaky "cruel " exploitation of females.Its a good and also common style of interacting with these girls,IMO. I recall a very eroitc momemt in one flick (I forget the title.."Dynasaty's Sunmission" perhaps) he did with young Misty and (then newbie)Dynasty shot in AtlanticCity

He made Misty whip her severely until she was trembling in tears of pain and humilation and then he made her kneel down and look strainght into the camera and began taunting her about the fact that the viewers want to see her in pain.. AND WANT TO SEE HER CRY AND ANGUISH IN HUMIALIATION because we're making a VIDEO HERE OF YOUR SUBMISSION and TORTURE and we're gonna ABUSE YOU SEVERELY" ... and they did a damn good job of doing so too IMO.

But this sort of over dramtic anaimated interaction by the Dom goes along way to getting newbie models to relax and even enjoy the scenes as they see that the Dom is not a serious zombi perpetrator but rather a very fun-loving guy, is balanced with a sense of humor and sane.

I'd wager that if we were to hear Rick Masters , Dan Hawke , Brian Davis or Tom Byron(of Extreme Video-the vanllia hardcore label who is apparently doing some of this extemem stuff as has been reported here) on the set as they shoot their scenes and directing newbie models, we 'de hear lots of simiar levity and sarcasm off camera. One thing you hear veteran bondage models say, is that when they first started doing this stuff the first thing they had to deal with was controling their laughter. Some girls find the right head for it quickly but some have to be blindfolded and gagged so you don't see 'em cracking up while the Dom is doing his best Jeffery Dalmer sicko drama performance. Interview with Stacy Burke in Ed Powers Dirty yDebutantes #113, she talks about this.Then Powers tells her to "give the viewers your best "damsel in distress look" and she threw back her head and transformed into a terrified victim and had tears welling up in her big brown eyeys in 2 seconds....amazing...

Ralphus you want to see some "serious" scary action that should be outllawed -- See old Ed Powers get naked and pounce on Stacy's sweet shaven pussy with his huge furr covered lard ass and that Milwalkee- tumor gut flopping around... Yikes!.. You'll have to sleep with a nightlight on after that !!

As a footnote, BDSM players, at least in my experience, come in two forms--recreationalists like myself, who get into the dramatic purely fictional role play (exactly like the way kids play army and cowboys and indians) and those who come into it from a truely dark and literal D/s, Master /slave perspective(lifestylers). But what's strange is that true lifestylers, are often so insistant that their erotica be REAL that they often will prefer the Rick Savage WYSIWYG style over the more seriious stuff that's got storylines and sinister crininal icons/ themes in it

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 11:02:14 PM

Name: Sardu von Sardu
E-mail address: see elsewhere

I think the most over-used term in S&M/bondage vids and web-sites is "humiliation". The stuff that is being marketed as such is so damn Disney it's pathetic. I'd say ZFX and InSex are on occasion pretty cutting edge when it comes to really pushing the envelope. RIck Savage and Co. don't approach anything remotely raw. It's the same with HOM and London and Bizarre, of course. Gripe gripe gripe. ;)

Sunday, July 14th 2002 - 11:02:51 PM

Name: scott

Sardu von Sardu...
yeah humilation is really just an element that helps define this particular fetish perversion (BDSM) similar to "pain" and "damsell in distress" but unlike the two latter elements as you may agree,humliation is directly correleated to the experience of the submissive/ /model. After only a few BDSM scenss and a couple nude modeling sessions desensitization precludes humiliation from happening..until you get them to do more lewd stuff. Desensitization happens very quickly especially for models who are working 6 days wk. And so ,in erotica it applies only where newbies and first timers are featured. As far as Savage's stuff ,the guys got a lots of flicks and I've seen less than two dozen of them and no two were exacxtly alike Don't recall any that were were soft and wimpy and some were better than others. But when you're watching a first timer young girl begin a flick with snow white DD tits and the scene ends with them swollen ,dark red and 60% covered with black deep brusies IMO you're watching something that's in a different league from HOM and most ZFX stuff. This is fairtly common coin for Dan Hawkes and Insex' stuff however based just on the pix that are floating around If HOM is making stuff like this then I'm there .: )

Monday, July 15th 2002 - 12:50:50 AM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com


Has anyone seen and can comment on the simulated rape videos sold by www.brutalvideo.com?

I'd like to know the background, Director, etc on these vids, and who is the gorgeus babe in "Sadistic Rape"/"Rape of a Housewife"/"Rape Party" tapes.

Anyone know who the girl is in their "Rough Raw Rape" tape?

Thanks in advance,

Monday, July 15th 2002 - 12:05:49 PM

Name: Robert

Max: I've seen Sadistic Rape and Rape Party and thought they were both excellent, although I wish they had tighter bondage and more torture. The rape scenes were certainly rough and convincing. As you said, the actress - who goes by the name of Vixxen - is gorgeous. I'd love to see more of her. I know that she has been is straight videos and I have seen her in a couple of previous bondage and wrestling videos (one called something like Vicci's Revenge). I seem to recall reading that one of the men in the videos with her is her husband and he may have directed the films. I don't know his name. The rape scenes I've seen with her did not show the credits.

Monday, July 15th 2002 - 01:25:39 PM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com


Thanks for the information. I've ordered them, and if it is appropriate for this forum, and if anyone is interested, I will post a review.


I hear you on your "desensitizing" theme. There was once a time when I found Playboy and Vivid's couples movies hot! From there, it was a steady march to soft bondage, hentai, gang bangs, rough sex, and now simulated gang-rape. However my fantasies for taking bound, beautiful women date back to puberty, so I figure I am where I need to be. Rock bottom? :)


Tuesday, July 16th 2002 - 07:02:23 AM

Name: Sprintus

Are we Desensitized?

I'm not sure if any of us are becoming truly desensitized (Sounds like something that happens to a pet Skunk, doesn?t it?) or if indeed as Max suggest at the end of his post, we just get closer to our roots.

After all, if the experts are to be believed, most people's sexual imprint occurs at a very young age. Society may lead you astray for a while, but sooner or later you find yourself moving towards whatever first titillated you many years earlier.

Maybe you honed in on some helpless babe being interrogated in some sword and sandal epic. Maybe you caught a glimpse of a late show roughie that your parents were watching at the drive-in while you were supposed to be asleep in the back seat. Possibly there was something about that poor woman being racked and tormented on the cover of True Detective magazine whenever you were at the drug store buying comics. Whatever it was, it stuck.

Then we go on about our lives learning what is 'supposed' to arouse us from film, television, and Farrah Fawcett posters. After all, Playboy looks pretty good when it's your only acceptable option.

But eventually we remember. Bit by bit, piece by piece the facade of socially acceptable arousal is replaced by our personal reality, and our interests inexorably focus on our true roots. And here we are.

Now it's certainly true that the net has made these images much easier to find, but I'm not sure even the abundance of the net has desensitized us as much as it has allowed us the opportunity to become connoisseurs.

Just a thought.


Tuesday, July 16th 2002 - 10:00:36 AM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com


Great analysis, I like it. And I would like to add an additional thought into the meld, though perhaps not as well articulated: as we mature, we always reach for loftier goals. For example, consider the athlete, always striving for their personal best.

From my own experiences of seeking porn on the net (because it was so accessible), I started "soft" because it was easier, both in the sense of thinking of key-words for the search engine (didn't I read somewhere that "Pamela Anderson" is the most often used tag in expression-searches?), and also in the guilt that I would feel. As time, and my desire for more evolved, I became more daring in my searching, each time attempting to find that primal "click".

Daring. What an interesting word. Am I suggesting that each of us have dared to see our true selves through this fetish, and have largely succeeded? Perhaps. Conversely, is it possible that the Mainstream are being prevented from this evolution by the so-called moral majority? Probably.

And who was it that said that the moral majority is neither moral, nor a majority?

So here I am, smug and happy as a bug in a clam, for I've not only found what I was looking for all along, but I am meeting a fundamental need for my mind. I know that I am nearly "there" (hey Rick, I would love to see some multiple-penetrations in your simulated gang-rape scenes), because this is what titillated me most when I was emerging into puberty. I dont think it gets more primal than that.

Gotta fly. Thanks for listening,

Tuesday, July 16th 2002 - 12:08:32 PM

Name: DHT
E-mail address: omac4w@yahoo.com

Wow. I love this board anyway, because everyone that posts here is pretty cool, and the overall tone is friendly and informative, (pretty bizarre considering we're ZFX fans), but the recent more analytical posts really caught my attention, since for some reason I've really been thinking hard about this kind of thing lately, and I absolutely want to get in on this discussion.

Desensitation: I am absolutely desensitized. I've been fascinated with bondage since I was a small kid, and in my teens, I knew I was on to something pretty widespread, but I had no access to bondage porn or bondage people.

(I feel so sorry for my girlfriend in high school, for the experiments I'd have her do. I'm sure that in the dead of night she tells her husband or whoever how happy she is to have found someone normal.)

Anyway, I found Harmony first, a very happy day. This is a few years before before the internet/porn explosion, and I had to go looking for the good stuff. Shortly later, I found ZFX. I took a while before I bought a ZFX vid, because at the time, I didn't like ballgags. When I finally picked one up, (it was DANSE MACABRE 2) I was so appalled I destroyed the tape.

Then, after I could rent the stuff, I got used to it. Then Penelope Pace dyed her hair, and I fell in love, and that was that, I've went from appalled to watching fairly bad stuff from ZFX, or WAVE, or BINDHER like I was watching Happy Days. I have nightmares where I'm watching some gruesome ZFX porn and my family will come into room and I don't even think to shut it off.

Now, more to the point, There is stuff that still appalls me. Most death scenes, which ZFX thankfully avoids, of course WAVE doesn't (that's kinda their whole point). Bindher put a plastic bag over Victoria Vixen's head, and that really pissed me off, though it didn't when Rick did that to Lisa in War Pigs 2. Probably because Lisa seems much cooler with this stuff in general.

Even so, I never saw myself as creepy or weird, hen I was growing up. I saw myself as lustful. I don't see myself as creepy or weird now, but I understand that this bondage thing I love like it was the Blues and though I'd never do anything nonconsensual, IS creepy and weird to a vast majority.

I was equally cursed and blessed when I found a woman who is pathologically sadomasochistic. A physically beautiful young woman my same age who, like me, was way into this stuff from an early age, and I got so addicted to sex with her I feel almost no hope that I could have sex any other way or with anyone else, though I can fall in love with other people, and my relationship with her is horrible. Alongside her sadomasochism has developed a deep rooted bitterness and animosity. She and I are off and on again for the last 7 years, because I can't stand to be around her for too long. Bondage is the only thing she likes about me, she's homicidal and would spit on my grave, and I'm laughing as I write that, but it's true.

All in all, as much as I love the fantasy sex world I've lived in all my life, I'd happily chuck it if I could just be normal. I hate the idea of scaring off the best girls I meet.

Tuesday, July 16th 2002 - 01:04:44 PM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com


Feel like sharing your girlfriend with us pervs? ;)

Seriously, I'm sorry to hear that your relationship is so binary. But consider that you may have finally discovered your true self, and she hers. There is considerable worth in that. Wanting to be "normal", wanting to be like the Cleavers, now thats sick!

There is a stunning play by Peter Schaeffer (and film with Richard Burton) called "Equus", about a plain shrink working with a young boy who blinded 6 horses. The shrink comes to realize that the boy was acting out of true passion for life, and was truely living, whereas his own life is "normal", boring, and utterly devoid of passion. The play/movie ends with the doctor looking horrified into the camera and saying "There is now a bit in my mouth, and it never comes out". If you can find it, rent it.

Having said that, I would never trade my perversions, my "isms" for normalcy. The blandness of a Prozac-induced flat-line pales compared with the terror of the roller-coaster ride that is my life. Sure, I have my doubts, insecurities, fears and unspeakable pain, but I also have the rush, the unbounding joy, conquests and highs.

My sexual fantasies are not manifested in reality, other than in the time I spend reading this forum, researching and watching movies. My wife knows of my fantasies, but we never share them in the bedroom. She has her own dark side which she shares with me, but I do not live it with her. And so our relationship is even stronger, based on that mutual trust and recognition that neither of us are angels, but are, in fact, *real*. We have found our dark side, and we embrace it.

This forum is the first time I have shared any of this with others, and thank you all for listening. If, however, I seem to be dominating the recent discussions, please let me know. I figure that a forum that has 1-3 posts/day, it should be OK if I wrote something each day.


Wednesday, July 17th 2002 - 08:06:41 AM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html


Rick Masters and ZFX's newest movie release is High Strung, an entertaining feature-length bondage production that features more of what ZFX is known for: cute girls tied up, raped and tortured. Now that's entertainment!

The story begins with ZFX newcomer Brandi Dukes playing a construction supervisor who checks in on one of her lazy second-shift workers (played by Jesse Keddings) and finds him first sleeping, then masturbating to a bondage magazine! She angrily fires him on the spot, but he's not having any of that treatment, not from a little bitch like her. He reaches into his duffel bag and pulls out his handcuffs (construction workers who bring bondage mags to work always keep handcuffs with them too, dontcha know) and quickly snaps them on the girl. He removes the bandana from around his neck and gags her with it, then helps himself to her full tits and pert body. He ends up removing her cutoff shorts and subduing her in a hogtie all while berating her with "Who you gonna fire NOW, baby?"

The next scene has Brandi tied standing with her arms raised high, cuffed to an overhead sewer pipe. Keddings ballgags her and puts vise clamps on her nipples and pussy (Obviously, construction workers who carry bondage mags and handcuffs also carry ballgags and clamps with them, too. DUH!) He ties one of her legs off the ground and winds a rope around her neck, pulling on it until she passes out.

At this point, the movie really takes off. Keddings has Brandi tied to the overhead pipe, suspended by her wrists and ankles, and he proceeds to whip her violently with a rubber hose. Another construction worker, played by Travis Lee, stumbles upon the scene, and sees this innocent girl being tortured by Keddings. Does he try to intervene? No. Does he try to rescue her? No. Instead he decides to take his OWN shot at her! Keddings hands off the hose to Lee, who proceeds to wail away at her on his own. Tag-team torture! I love it!

Both men then put Brandi on the floor. With her hands tied in front of her, Travis forces her to suck his dick while Keddings rams away inside her ass. It's a great (simulated) rape scene, punctuated by Lee cumming on her face and Keddings on her ass.

Both men are spent, but there's always time to have a little more fun with their bound plaything. They wrap Brandi up with an electric cord, taping the hot end inside her mouth as a gag. Her hands are bound in front, feet taped together. A flip of the switch from the power bar sends her writhing on the floor, and Brandi loudly and convincingly cries out in pain like this really hurts her badly. I almost felt sorry for her. Almost :) She endures several jolts of electric shock before finally passing out. "Served the bitch right for firing your ass," Travis observes.

Afterward, the two men tie Brandi to the sewer pipe with her arms overhead, leaving her gagged with the bandana. But she manages to free herself and take revenge. She sneaks up behind Travis and beats him over the head with a shovel, pummeling him several times until he dies in a bloody heap (Lee is rapidly becoming ZFX's version of "South Park's" Kenny, having also died in his previous role by having his pecker sliced off in Phallicide). Then she subdues Keddings with a rope around the neck and stabs away at him with a screwdriver until he's unconscious, finally escaping her construction hellhole.

Now the movie shifts to the county hospital, where Keddings is a patient strapped to a hospital bed, looked over by a third-shift night nurse, played by Lisa Kinkaid. Keddings is all knocked-out with painkillers, but nonetheless sports a constant erection under his sheet! She removes his restraints so she can do physical therapy on him, then she sits down and dozes off. Upon awakening, she attempts to give him his shot, but he suddenly comes to life and grabs her, wrestling the needle away from her and sticking it into her boob, until she is passed out.

With Lisa unconscious, the sex-warped patient goes to work on her, cutting off her clothing and restraining her to the bed, taking plenty of time to fondle her along the way. He takes a rolled-up sponge and uses that to gag her, tying it into her mouth with her own pantyhose, and using the rest of the pantyhose to spread apart her knees. He tightens a clamp around her pussy lips (Lisa has a shaved pussy in this one, for those who are interested) and ties a rope from the clamp up above her. At this point, Lisa wakes up but can only moan helplessly as he gives her oral sex. Then he switches on a vacuum machine with twin suction devices for her breasts (Somebody please tell me what such an instrument is doing in a hospital room. Oh, never mind). He gives Nurse Lisa some breast suction, then sits back and jerks off while she suffers.

The final scene has Lisa tied on her knees, with arms bound in front of her and her ass extended out for him. He ties her ankles together and uses a red ball gag (this hospital has EVERYTHING) to silence her mouth. After some spanking, he lubes up her ass and inserts a long enema tube deep up inside her, taping it in securely with medical tape. With a chuckle, he escapes and lets the enema do its thing to Lisa, while she writhes in obvious discomfort. It's an entertaining finale and a well pulled-off illusion, because you can often see some water squirting out her ass during the enema scene. Meanwhile, the door to the room remains closed, and people walk by, oblivious to the sufferings going on inside.

This is another fine effort from ZFX, although Lisa's scenes pale compared to the excellent first half. One big complaint: Lisa is one of ZFX's most beautiful actresses, but not in this show. For some reason, director Masters has her wear her hair in ridiculous pigtails, and worse yet, she wears glasses throughout all her scenes, which makes no sense at all unless this was a custom shoot for people who have an eyeglasses fetish. What are the glasses for, so she can see better while being tortured? This aside, this one adds the extra element of nasty, threatening dialogue that is sometimes missing from recent ZFX releases. Jesse Keddings is a wonderful villain, a necessary ingredient in a good bondage movie. Brandi Dukes is a real find, gorgeous, busty and extremely sexy. After a slow start, she wails her pretty head off, giving her scenes an extra punch. I hope Rick uses her again, because she was the best part of this tape for me.

The DVD version has over 20 minutes of behind-the-scenes outtakes, with some great insights into what happens when Rick films one of these. It adds a lot to the overall package, and it's fascinating for fans of ZFX. My grade: B

Wednesday, July 17th 2002 - 05:18:01 PM

Name: Sardu von Sardu
E-mail address: NOsarduSPAM@mac-email.com

Thanks for the great review, Ralphus. Sounds like the DVD version is the way to go.

Now if we could only have a DVD featuring outtakes from "Beyond Driven 3: Stephanie Renford". Timeless moment: newcomer L. Kinkaid inquires of her director: "You want to do _what_?!" Plus ca change, eh Rick?

Scott: regarding humitliation being directly correllated to the experience of the model. It would, but only in cases where a newbie was shooting her first vid. In cases of seasoned bondage actresses being required to display some angst, obviously some acting talents would (hopefully) come into play. I know it;s asking alot. I know not everyone has the talents of a Lisa K. or a Penelope Pace.

Wednesday, July 17th 2002 - 10:03:21 PM

Name: Sprintus

Eyeglasses! Lisa is bound while wearing eyeglasses! Way Cool!!! (kidding). Actually I just think that Rick covers a lot of different ground, and I appreciate that, something for the whole family (so to speak) :-) Great review as always Ralphus. Thanks. Regards

Thursday, July 18th 2002 - 06:22:52 AM

Name: Jaeckill
E-mail address: jaeckill@yahoo.de

Ralphus: Great review. From your description I´m not sure whether this movie will do it for me (I´m focussed to the rape and not the torture aspect of ZFX movies). But Rick´s preview clip looked very promising, so maybe I´ll go for it.

Any answer to Max´ question about brutalvideo? Reliability, quality, content? I´d be interested as well, especially in the old ones.

Ralphus, any ideas when you will be able to set up the links page? Maybe we need some more discussion about the kind of information that should go there? I know it´s already a lot of work to run this page so thank you very much!!!


Thursday, July 18th 2002 - 07:45:34 AM

E-mail address: kruzmon_cellar@yahoo.com

Ralphus: Excellent review - hopped on over to the site, caught a review of the clip (though had to adjust the monitor brightness), nevertheless, I agree, Brani Dukes IS gorgeous, busty and sexy! This clip kinda reminded me of a good 'ol "HOM" vid with Georgia Van Helsing...Hard Hat Trouble (??)...somethin' like that. Anyway, I'm glad Rick included his style of "taking-care-of-business-the-ZFX-way" with the 2-on-1 on Brandi (though hotter if arms bound behind) As one poster noted, I too am into more of the ZFX rape scenerio's than the torture...Keep up the reviews -

Thursday, July 18th 2002 - 01:32:01 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html

Brutal Video: They look like a bootleg operation, which is okay if that's the only way you can see some of these tapes, and as a plus they give you a quality rating on the print, which is a real help. It's been my experience from ordering from places like this that most places tend to be fairly generous when grading their prints, however. I know a lot of these titles can also be found from Forbidden's website, as well.

It's places like this that are in the plan for the list of sites that offer extreme bondage videos. Right now my friend and I are in the process of updating the archived posts for the site, and things are moving along fairly rapidly. This list of links, plus a separate section highlighting Lisa's interviews, are in the near future, but I don't want to speculate on when that will be. It is definitely coming, though. I want to improve this site and if I continue to get help, it will happen.

Thursday, July 18th 2002 - 07:21:29 PM

Name: DHT

Many topics:

I echo Ralphus' hope that Brandi dukes returns for many more vids. Not only have there not been many ZFX releases in the last two or three years, but all have featured one-time models. Hit and run models, so to speak. Marly Rowe, the Phallicide girl, Suzi Sexton, where are they now? Doing ecstasy in some rave club and telling their friends the freaky way how they earned their tuition money for the semester? Slackers. :)

It's so much better when a ZFX model puts out a body of work. Imagine if Lisa had stopped at Subject9#2. As much as we love her now, if she'd done only one vid we wouldn't remember her.

I've gotta weigh in on the rash of companies who've taken up so much discussion on the board. Eyewitness, Forbidden, Brutal et al, ... I know alot of people are interested in their product, that's cool. I hear alot of comparison to ZFX, tho, even posters hoping for a company to be the "new ZFX".

What occurs to me about these companies is that if anything, they can aspire to being the new W.A.V.E., and that seems to be their intent.

Speaking of W.A..V.E, I know Tina Krause is moving more to cult figure status, but I like to imagine the possibilities had she done work for ZFX. I'll let you guys ponder that.

As far as goes "HIGH STRUNG, What's this about pigtails on Lisa? Rick, no!

To me, Drifters would have been a great film were it not for the pigtails, ditto Phallicide. Pigtails = bad = make me not want to get the vid.

Glasses, on the other hand, = good.

Friday, July 19th 2002 - 11:06:13 AM

Name: Laughingboy

what is WAVE? LB

Friday, July 19th 2002 - 01:52:27 PM

Name: g-in-o
E-mail address: g_in_o62@hotmail.com

Speaking of repeat performers-

Awhile back, I believe Rick mentioned new footage he had shot with some new performers (whom we have seen by now) as well as Kim Noble and my #2 all time fave (behind LK) Kelly McKay (Underland, SOB 3 through 5 as well as earlier showings in the Video Pirates series).

Hey Rick- is this footage up for release anytime soon? Its been too long since I've heard the sweet sounds of Kelly's simpering pleadings and the sight of her fair skinned easily marked ass.

Still waiting to see "High Strung"- some place around town has got to get one in soon. The preview looked damn good. Not to mention those shots from "The Dirty Dreams of Lisa Kinkaid". I have this term- "ZFX moments" for those fleeting shots where it all comes together in zen like perfection, the essence of why ZFX is simply the best. Sometimes they are literally moments- not even a whole scene. On the "Dirty Dreams" preview it is the segment where Lisa (drugged?) has been stripped to her bikini bottoms. A hand reaches forward for more, while Lisa reaches down to prevent her exposure in a beautifully primal fashion. Her hand is then slapped away - and her bikini bottoms are pulled down.- Damn that looked good!

Friday, July 19th 2002 - 09:22:12 PM

Name: Bowersock

Hello friends! This is a great site! Does anyone know where it's possible to buy japanese rape DVD's? I know there are a few on offer on vcd1.

Saturday, July 20th 2002 - 02:04:00 AM

Name: Xenonex
E-mail address: xenonex@baregirls.zzn.com
Homepage URL: http://www.baregirls.com

Laughingboy- Wave's site is here: http://www.wavemovies.com/

Saturday, July 20th 2002 - 10:30:32 PM



Thanks to Ralphs's diligent efforts to get the archives back up I can provide you with a little guidance in that department. I actually made an insanely long post on that very subject back in January of 2001. I've copied the post and pasted it below so you don't have to go and search it out. I'm fairly certain I was about three sheets to the wind when I wrote it, which means drunk to anyone not familiar with the analogy (^_^), so basically, please excuse the flagrant gramatical errors, because I'm just WAY to lazy to go and fix them for this re-post. Anyhow, hope this helps you somewhat in your search.

As a quick addendum to my post below, I will say that a site I've discovered since making that post is the WONDERFUL: www.videomayhem.com/

I know your asking about DVD's, but trust me when I say that video mayhem really delivers what they promise, at a VERY resonable price. Any how, here's my rambling post from from a year and a half ago:

Comments: Your assessment of Japanese vids is 100% on the mark RR. There are very few that are in between. They either really suck, or they are just so incredible you can't take your eyes off them. As I've stated in here before, my two major criterion for porn are 1. The chick HAS to be good looking, and 2. It HAS to be non-consensual. I'm restating this because I know that a lot of you, like Ralphus, really need the torture aspect to enjoy the movie. For me the torture is kind of like extra sauce on a pizza. It's great if you have it, but it's still a good pizza without it. (What is it with me and the food analogies all the fucking time? : ) )

Anyhow, what I'm getting at are that most of the Japanese Vids or DVDs that I own are torture free. They are just good old fashioned horny guys raping the shit out of some poor incredibly HOT chick. I have a fairly large collection of them so here is what I'm going to do. I'm going to write down the titles of the ones that I feel are slam dunks, home runs, "insert your own lame sports analogy here," rape tapes. Now I do have some with torture in them. So I'll make two lists. One that is only rape and the other with torture. I'm going to include that tapes that I have purchased, because even with the pixilation, they are well worth it in my opinion.

The first set are going to be tapes that are primarily Rape. There may be some light torture in them, but not ZFX type stuff. But believe me when I say these are nothing like the "forbidden video's," with that gentle rape crap. These girls are very active and screaming their heads off. While the guys could care less about being gentle with them, they are just getting their rocks off any way and position they please.

These are all found on vcd1. Click on the link that says "Asian Adult Video Tapes(VHS/NTSC Only)." Then Click on the first link on the left called "Japan AV Collection (Featuring the hottest & the most beautiful AV Stars in Japan." I've even went and found the pages they are each on for you. These aren't in any particular order.

1. Office Lady Rape Stories. Page 11. Haven't watched this one in a while, but I remember it being pretty good, and of course the chick is really good looking.

2. School Girl Rape In Turn Chapter 13. Page 6. This one is VERY good IMO. REALLY cute girl and it even has some light torture. After they have all had their turn with her they take her to the shower and before they roughly wash her down they throw this white chalky soap at her for a while. They even threaten her with a knife at one point.

3. Gang Rape CEO. Page 9. This one is really good because the chick is flawless looking. I don't remember if there is any light torture or not but I know she gets used from every angle imaginable and even gets tied up at some point. Very good.

4. University Student in Client. (Goofy fucking name, huh?) Page 10. The girl in this one is cute, but what really makes this one good is the scene at the end where the two guys raping her just really use her like a fucking rag doll. She is really light and the guys are pretty big so they force her into all kinds of positions.

5. School Girl Rape In Turn Chapter 12. Page 5. I haven't seen this one in a LONG time, so I don't remember a lot of specifics, but I remember the girl is pretty cute. Not my favorite tape of the bunch, but still good. You can look at the pictures for yourself.

6. School Girl Rape In Turn Chapter 7. Page 7. Like the description of this one says. The girl in this one is a LOT better looking in the tape than she is on the cover. She is really hot, and these guys really go to town on her. At the end the force her to put a vibrator in her pussy under her cloths and walk around in public with it running. Believe me when I say this is a GREAT one.

7. Gang Rape Teenage Model. Page 11. You can look at the pictures on this one if you don't believe me, but the girl in this one has one of the best bodies I've ever seen, and they are merciless with this chick. At one point she has her hands tied behind her back with one guy reaming her up her ass, while another guy is ramming a vibrator up her pussy. This one is also VERY thinly censored. I don't even know why they bothered with it because you can see EVERYTHING, and she is a SCREAMER. This one is a MUST buy if you are into Japanese Rape Tapes.

8. School Girl Rape In Turn Chapter 14. Page 6. Once again the girl in this one could easily pose as a playboy centerfold. She gets raped twice in it. In the first part two guys kidnap her, tie her up and go at it. In the second part two guys get her in a class room. This one is great because the chick is so good looking, and she does a good job of acting most of the time, but towards the end of the tape, you could catch her smiling from time to time which lets you know she is really having a great time here, which is all fine and good that she is into this type of freaky shit in real life, but that's not why I bought the tape. Still this is a minor complaint. Very good tape.

9. School Girl Rape In Turn Chapter 11. Haven't seen this one in a while either. They definitely screw the dogshit out of this chick, but I think she was a little flabby for my tastes. I'm not saying she is ugly, just not my style. Look at the pics and decide for yourself.

There is one other good tape that I have, but it's on page 12 and for some reason that page isn't working, so I don't know what the name of it is.

Now these next tapes are ones that I think you would really like Ralphus. They can be found at the following URL: http://www.fm3d.com/videomayhem/ . Once you are inside click on the link that says "Adult Freaky Flicks." Once you get inside there scroll all the way to the bottom to the "TOJIRO," flicks. He does a very good job of describing the flicks on the site, but let me tell you, ALL the girls in these are HOT and treated very rough. I mean they do some NASTY shit to these chicks. The Japanese come up with some REALLY whacked out shit to do to women. Like throw animal guts on them and shit. Weird shit. The ones that I have are:

1. Abnormal Rape. This one has a few consensual moments in it, but believe me when I say it doesn't stay that way.

2. Baby Doll. This one also has a some consensual stuff in it. But don't sweat it. At one point the guy cums all over her face and then uses a toothbrush to rub it around her face and then brushes her teeth with it. Of course she is gorgeous. The rape at the end is VERY rough and I believe he is dunking her head in a toilet at one point, and he force feeds her a shit load of hard boiled eggs. Very rough.

3. Body Trance. This one is actually my favorite, but it's the lightest on the torture. There is really to much going on in this one for me to describe other than to say read his description of it and know that the women are all REALLY good looking in it.

4. and 5. Butterfly Labyrinth 1 & 2. This along with its sequel are the roughest of the bunch. There are some consensual scenes in both, but I'm telling you, they dish out some VERY intense stuff in these two. A guy even pisses on one of the girls. I'm not into that, but that's just to let you know the lengths they go to. Keep in mind though, all and I do mean ALL of these girl are stunning looking.

Now every movie I've talked about so far has some form of pixilation, but I'm telling you it doesn't matter, they are GREAT tapes.

Now for the uncensored DVDs on vcd1. When you get to the site click on the link "Japanese Underground Collection." Then when you are inside there click on the link "See also: Japanese Underground DVD Collection." Keep in mind that ALL of the DVDs you see there are completely pixilation free.

The ones I currently have are:

1. and 2. Payback Underground Banker 1 and 2. 2 being the better of the two. Both on Page 15.

3. Late Office Rape. There is really only one rape scene in this one at the beginning of the DVD, but the chick is so god dam good looking I think it was worth it, but tread lightly here because there is a LOT of consensual shit on it.

4. Big Breast School Babe. Page 2. This one is completely consensual, but the chick in it really good looking. The only reason I have it is because the sent it to me free with my order.

GOD DAMN. This is the longest fucking post I've ever made in my fucking life. I hope some of you appreciate this because this was a pain in the ass tracking all this shit down. Don't say I've never done anything for this board before. : ) I feel like I just wrote a fucking college paper. By the way, there are MANY films on these sites that I haven't ordered yet so look around for yourselves. I would love to hear your opinions on some of these flicks too. Believe me, there's gold buried in there.

Sunday January 28th 2001 01:51:00

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: HOWIE Comments: Page Number Omissions: "School Girl Rape In Turn Chapter 11" is on Page 6.

The "Late Office Rape" DVD is on Page 12.

There are a LOT of non-consensual DVD's there. Just look around a little. For instance go to page 14. The very first one is called "Force Sex With Model," and the pictures look very promising.

P.S. Just in case any of you cant find them, you can see pics from each of these movies on vcd1 by clicking the link that says "Free Downloads and Sample Page" inside the description box for each movie.

Wheeww, my fucking fingers hurt. : )


Sunday January 28th 2001 02:14:01

Saturday, July 20th 2002 - 11:01:21 PM

Name: Laughingboy
E-mail address: laughingboy_@excite.com

Boy it sure is taking a long time for High Strung to reach Oregon. LB PS--Thanks to Xenonon for the information on WAVE

Monday, July 22nd 2002 - 07:34:28 AM

Name: g-in-o
E-mail address: g_in_o62@hotmail.com

Laughingboy- You got that right!

If you are anywhere near Eugene, you should check out a store called B&B (I think) , off seventh street. They now have the mantle of best ZFX selection in Oregon. Im hoping I don't have to make the drive- maybe this week will be the one it comes in.

Ralphus- Thanks for the archives!

Monday, July 22nd 2002 - 08:06:18 AM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com


Excellent post! I immediately hopped over to vcd1 and found that to be an excellent web site. I was disappointed with Video Mayhem, because one is not really sure what sort of vid one is buying. Generally, there were no titles with the adult videos (and then it was not clear if the vid was adult or mainstream!). For a newbie like myself, vcd1 offers sufficient tease to make me part with my money.

I've not any experience with Japanese video such as this (but do know what pixellation does to them). Do they actually show penetration while the heroine is tightly bound? Or do they satisfy US laws and have either special effects (a la ZFX) or very loose bondage like we see in the Euro rape flicks?

I'll certainly be chasing down some of your recommendations, particularly "Gang rape teenage model". I wonder of they have that over at IMDB.com? :)


Monday, July 22nd 2002 - 09:43:19 AM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html


It's been a long time coming (believe it or not, over two years) but the previous posts for this site are finally all back with us on the guestbook archives link above. There was never any doubt in my mind that they belonged there, but it's been a long struggle finding a way to bring them back. I'm talking about several months of hard, tedious work, but I was dedicated to bringing this site back up to date. With the exception of the dates November 11-14, 2000, the archives are now complete.

Unfortunately, it was between those dates that Lisa Kinkaid was interviewed, so I am currently missing one of her four interviews (and still awaiting a transcript of her recent on-camera interview that Rick posted the link to). In the very near future, I plan to include separate links to Lisa's interviews and to a list of links of sites that carry extreme bondage videos. In the meantime, I need to enlist the help of our readers here. By any chance, did someone happen to save the interview Lisa did on this board around mid-November 2000? Rick Masters thinks he may have it on file somewhere, but if any of you can help, please e-mail me.

Here's an open question the board. Are we happy with the way this page currently shows the newest posts up at the top, or do we want the guestbook to read in chronological order, with the latest entries at the bottom? We've had it both ways, and since the board belongs to the readers, I'm enlisting your opinions.

In the meantime, thanks to everybody for all your postings in the past three-plus years, and by all means, go visit the archives and relive some old memories.

Monday, July 22nd 2002 - 03:31:00 PM

Name: zfx'r

Hey Everyone! Hope everyone is doing good. I've been struggling, like many, after getting laid off by the suits and have not had time to come here too much as I have busted my rear trying to find work. But, this site is better than ever and the discussion/debates/entries and dialogues are fantastic. Good to see a growing community here who appreciates this type of art.

Anyhow I need some help and THIS IS THE PLACE, the BEST odds for getting it from my fellow Gimp post peers. There has been this bondage video I have been looking for for a very long time. Many pic post sites (especially breast bondage or'rape' sites) have stills from it (looks like it is from the 70's) and has this cute big busted brunette sitting on a love cushion (very 70's) with her large breasts roped in a circular knots while her hands are padlocked behind her and some lucky SOB is groping the treats at hand. I saw this pic again at--http://bondage-central.com/mercilessnpl/pre.htm--the babe in question is on the left column.

And now I'm really interested in finding this gem. Anyone know of picture/still photo posts or archives where I may be able to find this thing? If only we oculd search for pics like words!

Also, some questions about ZFX: Is Penelope Pace's career done with ZFX? Does Rick have any plans to take any unused footage over the years and make a compiltation from the ZFX Vault? What/Who were/are Rick's biggest influnces as afar as adult movies,scenes and actresses that inspired him to pursue this art?

PS: I want to share some sites I found for everyone here and PLEASE if you have time any thoughts on finding that video is great! Here they are:http://www.forbiddenvideo.com/---http://www.blowfish.com and http://www.smvideo.com/

Monday, July 22nd 2002 - 04:32:54 PM

Name: ZFX'r

I think a good topic to share here is this..obviously, all here share a passion and interest for bondage art and the like...so, WHAT was THE scene and THE actress/actor that got you hooked and so into this form of art? Let's offer the most influential scene and then runner up.

For me, it goes back to believe it or not Vanessa Del Rio and a DP scene where she is a maid and tied up by two lucky fellas who then have their way with her..the movie 'filthy rich'..runner up, not easy, many but one of the more influential that got my interest was the ZFX Classic 'Southern Discomort.'

Monday, July 22nd 2002 - 11:01:58 PM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com


OK, I'll bite, but it depends on how far back you want to go! :) I guess the formative years were the mid-60s, with Marvel Comix Catwoman, and watching the gals in the roller-derbys with their tight outfits. But the movie that made it click for me was the dreadful mainstream horror film "The Dunwich Horror", with a young Dean Stockwell. In the final scenes, Sanda Dee is unconscious, dressed in a black robe that is barely held together with a rope, and is tied, spreadeagled, to an X-shaped altar, ready for the Devil. Hey, I was only 13 at the time, but it made one helluva impression. I had to get my own rocks by drawing my own bondage scenes. Then mix that with the gang-rape scene in the theatre from Kubrick's "Clockwork Orange", and you have all my fetishes in one. Yeah, I know, I knew what my kinks were before I was 14.

Thats why I like ZFX; they tie in the sci-fi/horror element, with women in spandex being interrogated. Now all I need is the gang-rape component. Who needs viagra?


Tuesday, July 23rd 2002 - 10:02:08 AM

Name: Sprintus


You are luckier than I. Unlike you, my interest formed like the universe, slowly from a nebulas cloud. Try as I might I cannot think of THE definitive scene that started my interest. I can only remember bits and pieces of various films (and other imagery) that became more clear and obvious as I grew up. I remember scenes from the "House of Wax", "The Tower of London", "Bloody pit of Horror", and others. It wasn't until the late 60's early seventies before I was totally aware of exactly what I was looking for. I managed to feed my interests on the "mainstream" films of the time, "The Big Doll House", "Blood Castle", and "Mark of the Devil", even the hit film "Billy Jack" had a pretty decent rape scene.

It was about this time that House of Milan's various magazines and loops began appearing at my local adult book store. This was a very notable point in my life, as these were the first "films" that spoke directly and rawly to my interests. But it was the selection rather than a specific scene or loop that I remember. It was also about this time that mainstream porn films (Back when they had budgets) began using BDSM themes. Films such as "Man with a Maid", "Story of Joanna", and "Caligula", not to mention some low budget but full length porn films that followed the general gist of the loops but with more scenes and actresses. Life was good. Eventually HOM and it's many imitators disappeared, porn straightened it?s act up and all seemed lost for a few years. Then came the Internet and life has been just fine since.


Tuesday, July 23rd 2002 - 11:05:39 AM

Name: BBFan
E-mail address: memfan@yahoo.com


I share your affinity for that model, since it is a pic of her in a tiny ad in a nudey magazine that introduced me to my passion for tied up tits. She is Little Oral Annie, and her early work was done at Tao Productions. While I don't know where that particular scene comes from, there is a great breast bondage scene of her in the movie "The Sadistic Adventures of Annie and Marie". I think she got a brest reduction at some point, but she continued to do bondage for Bill Majors (Judi's B&D school, Andrea's Fault, etc).

Tuesday, July 23rd 2002 - 12:40:49 PM

Name: ZFX'r

Hey BBFan,THANKS for some inaight into that phot..I take it that you checked it out, wonderful shot right?! :-) Well, are u sure? I never would have thought it was little oral annie aka annie owens...I LOVE her too1 And ,she was an early influece on me too bit i know her more from catfight mags and videos..what a tremendous sensual woman!

Well, if that is her in that photo, SOMEONE has to have that video somewhere since she is so popular even today. If you have any clues to any of her films that may have it, pleas let me know. Thanks!

By the way, I think Clockwork Orange was an influecne for many a young horny boy back then...

Tuesday, July 23rd 2002 - 03:35:50 PM


Dam, now that Ralphus went and updated the archives, I don't think I'll ever have to make a new post again. (^_^) This was my post to a thread started by Ralphus back in December of 2000. Once again, I was drunk. Do you think I might have a problem? : ) Na, I just always seem to make huge fucking posts here when I get the buzz on.

One other thing before my re-post. To Max: I totally agree that Video Mayhem (VM) can be a little frustrating in that there are no pictures and some of the descriptions are a bit on vauge side to say the least, but aside from the DVD's I spoke about in my re-post, everyone of those very same tapes can be found at VM for $12.00 a pop as opposed to $15.00 at VCD1, and they seem to be better quality to boot. I actually have another long post buried somewhere in the archives where I went into some depth on how to see what the videos look like at VM. There is another site in japanese ( http://www.av-megastore.co.jp/redgang/11top.html ) you can go to that uses the same naming conventions that VM does for their flicks and has pictures to go with them. I'd go dig it out the post and re-post it for you, but I think if I recycle to many of my old posts Ralphus is going to revoke my card. (^_^) But I would suggest you seek it out. It will make using VM a lot easier for you, and believe me, it's worth the effort. Happy hunting.

Now here's my post about what got me "into" the scene. (Oh ya, Clock Work Orange was the fuckig bomb!)

Name: HOWIE Comments: Great new topic for the board Ralphus, and you feature prominently in my introduction to ZFX, as I'm sure will be the case for many who contribute to this line of discussion.

I'll start off by warning you all that I have the buzz on right now, so this may be long and rambling, but what the hell? I have a few free moments and feel like contributing. So please excuse any grammatical errors.

My fetish for seeing hot chicks tied up and used really started when I was in the Navy and I bought the Japanese anime movie "Urotsukidogi Legend of the Overfiend" on a fluke at a comic book store. I couldn't believe how blatant the movie was about treating women as simple objects of sexual gratification. I mean, it starts out with a really hot woman being thrown from the top of a building as a sacrifice and a demon rapes her as she falls to the ground. Way back in Jr. High I had made a few drawings of naked women tied up, but I had never seen anything on this level in my life. Needless to say, I was hooked, and there was no guilt about watching animated women being raped and used. Anime became my main focus for a while, and I still love the format, because as with Gary Roberts art, it can go places that actual live video simply can't. I. E. Anyone in this forum who hasn't seen the LaBlue Girl series doesn't know what they are missing.

Anyhow, I got my first computer around the end of 95, and it didn't take me long to find the newsgroups and bondage sites. That's when I found actual live action bondage flicks. It took me a while to work up the courage to order shit over the internet, but I finally broke down and ordered some stuff from Close Up Concepts. As many of you in here know, these are basically the bondage flicks where you have a hot chick tied up and you simply get to watch her squirm for a few minutes. Then a guy will come in and put her in a new position every once and a while. Not a pimple on the ass of ZFX, but I thought it was great then. I still like my Brian Davis tape with Summer Cummings as she is simply an incredible looking brunette with HUGE tits and a body to die for. BND - 42 is the name of the tape for any who are interested. Trust me, she is HOT! It was good stuff to me at the time, but still didn't go as far as I had hoped it would.

So of course this led me to live action Japanese Rape Tapes, which is always a very hit or miss proposition. As with Anime, I still love the format, because even though there are some of tapes that miss the mark, when it's on target, it's GREAT SHIT!. I have a LOT of these tapes and could go into which are and aren't good, IMHO, but I'll hold off unless any of your really want to hear about them. http://www.vcd1.com/ and http://www.xxxcyberstore.com/ are the two best sites I've found for that type of material by the way. VCD1 being the better of the two.

Ok, so I finally stumbled across the Galaxy of Terror site, which had screen captures of Lisa Kincaid being raped by a Teddy Bear in Voodoo Dolls. I was very intrigued by the pictures and the web masters descriptions of how rough ZFX movies were. I quickly found the link to the official ZFX website and was instantly consumed by all of the pictures Rick had posted from his movies. I had never seen anything like it and pretty much spent all of my free time wondering which of the tapes to order on my limited full time student budget at $45.00 a pop. That's when I found this message board, which was like a dream come true. Not only were people, including Rick himself, having actual intelligent discussions about being into this type of material, but by scouring through posts and Ralphus's reviews I was able to make a very good first selection of tapes. As I recall, the ones in the first group were Whipshock 4, 666, and Cheerleaders of Perilous U. I still remember how excited I was to get those tapes, especially Whipshock 4 because of the screen captures of Lisa being shocked or whatever the hell that thing was doing to her while she was tied up on to that table. It was INCREDIBLE, for once I had found some tapes that were not only as good as what they claimed to be on the internet, but actually exceeded their descriptions and screen captures. To this day watching Lisa's exquisite body get progressively sweatier from her torture as she squirms is simply breathtaking to behold. Not to mention that every minute of the 666 video was like pure heaven to me, and I hadn't even discovered Monica Moore yet! The first time I saw her abused on tape was just numbingly pleasing to see. Now I have about 17 tapes and my collection just keeps growing. With the help of this board, I have yet to purchase a video yet that has disappointed me. Let's see, Phantacide Peepshow 2, Forced Entry, The Reporter 1 & 2, South Of The Border 1 & 2, Fair Warning, Lisa Chord (Spelling?), 666 mark of the Beast, and others I can't think of right now, and each one has it's own delights to offer.

So Anyway, that's my story, probably a little more detail than needed, but I get diarrhea of the fingers when I'm drunk. : )

Peace Out,


Tuesday December 12th 2000 09:00:36

Tuesday, July 23rd 2002 - 05:10:42 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://hometown.aol.com/ralphus44/page6.html

ZFX'r asked: WHAT was THE scene and THE actress/actor that got you hooked and so into this form of art?

Well, I hate to be a copycat and say A Clockwork Orange, but that was it for me, too. Not as much for the gang rape scene (although that was great) but rather the home invasion scene with Alex and his droogs, entering that house and giving a bit of the old "in-out" to that man's wife. He takes a rubber ball and stuffs it in her mouth, then wraps a roll of clear tape all the way around her head. Then he cuts off her clothes and...well, I can't listen to "Singin' in the Rain" without my mind clicking back to that scene :)

I got creative and put together another quickie webpage at the link above. Vidi well, my brothers!

Tuesday, July 23rd 2002 - 07:32:46 PM

Name: g-in-o
E-mail address: g_in_o62@hotmail.com

Well well well, my Droogs. Whats it going to be then?

My first movie wasn't so much a movie but some pictures there of; A pilfered Playboy from a friends father had scenes from "The Story of O" within. There I learned that all issues of Playboy were not created equal. Years later I would catch up to it on VHS and indeed it lived up to its promise. To this day, I dream of a directors cut on DVD for more of Corrine Clery under the whip.

I remember sneeking into a movie with the highly original title called "Sex and Violence" or something along those lines, which told of a couple imprisoned on a yacht. The woman is subjected to numerous indignities and in the end, it turns out that her shipmate was in on it all along. I have not seen any mention of this film anywhere.

The advent of HBO and the like lead to new discoveries. I remember a movie called "The Passage" with Malcom McDowell (our own Alex) as a nazi who chooses Kay Lenz as a plaything. In a scene I would very much like to see again, he forces her to shower in front of him before the fun begins. This film ends up on lists but to date, I have found no copies or pictures from it. It was also around this time I stumbled on "Galaxy of Terror.

In the adult film relm, I remember purchasing a magazine with pictures from HOM's "Special Request" which sent me on a long search to find it on video. Kim Bittner/Pia Snow/Michelle Bauer would be a long time favorite. From about the same time there was "The Training of Sharon" starring Ronnie Dixon put out by Cal Star. I always hoped to find harder films starring her being put through her paces.

I don't think I'm being jaded in saying that early nineties bondage films tended to be better than todays. Much of what I find now seems like its a main stream porno companies vague idea of what draws viewers to a bondage movie, or something done on the cheap with little regard for the form. Not that cheap is always bad- but the film maker has to be into it. More often than not, if I take a chance on renting a new film, my low expectations are not even met.

My first ZFX film was "Spread Eagle" with the lovely Alison Parrish. I could not believe my jaded eyes! And this was still a couple of years before Lisa, Kelly, Kim, P Pace and all.

Wednesday, July 24th 2002 - 01:04:14 AM

Name: boom
Homepage URL: http://www.boldbdsm.com/bondage/b6/bx.html

Hey people, check this out, just a page found in the tgp. But great drawings, about alien and plant rape and bondage. Usefull script drawings for a schockwave...

Wednesday, July 24th 2002 - 10:50:35 AM

Name: DHT

My scene:

There are a few, and I can't pinpoint any one, but Karen Allen, Raiders of the lost ark is one. Later, Francesca Annis in Dune. When I was in like 3rd grade, I was walking through the kitchen at the precise moment of the bondage porn scene at the beginning of Howling1, and I remember just stopping dead in my tracks. If anyone hasn't seen Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3, then they must do so today. Ditto a movie called Blood Ties, with Michelle Johnson.

My ZFx sxcene that got me hooked was Penelope Pace in South of thge Border2 with the belt in her mouth.

Wednesday, July 24th 2002 - 11:17:47 AM

Name: DHT

BUT, hang on, oh my God, how did I forget Catwoman tying up and gagging Batgirl on the '60's Batman TV show? They reran that episode when I was a kid and my destiny was SET, engraved in STEEL.

Wednesday, July 24th 2002 - 11:20:33 AM

Name: DHT
E-mail address: omac4w@yahoo.com

DHT ZONE: "lost" videos

submitted for your amusement.

the first in a short series of postings I would like to do where I describe ZFX videos that were never made, but that I had fun thinking up myself and would like to share.

This should only be taken as amusement for all, including Rick himself, who I hope is not offended by my homages to his work.


Starring Chandra Sweet, Lisa Kincaid, Penelope Pace, and introducing ZFX newcomer (never was) Tina Krause!

three sisters, two innocent, one evil, live in a japanese palace on a hill, simulated in the ZFX warehouse studio with some oriental paper screens. Manga, (Chandra Sweet) plots against her two sisters, Anima (Tina Krause) and Saragutawa (Lisa Kincaid).

As the youngest daughter, Saragutsawa must take the role of servant to the rest of her family. Manga is merciless to her, constantly shouting orders and criticizing her. Anima disapproves of this abuse, but is powerless to interfere.

One evening, Manga accuses Saragutsawa of stealing. She suspends Sara by her wrists, gags and whips her into unconsciousness, the binds her Japanese style.cross legged, arms behind her back, and leaves her outside.

A witch, Penelope Pace, arrives and speaks very kindly to Sara, though she makes no move to untie her. Sara, thinking the witch to be a kindly old woman, tells her she only wishes to please her sister and earn her approval. The witch says she will grant the wish.

lisa is transformed into a ghostly succubus, collared in a black slave/dom type outfit. Like a zombie, she re-enters the house. She first intrudes upon Anima's room, subduing Anima and binding and gagging her. She leads her into Manga's room, and makes her kneel in the corner.

Manga, caught masturbating with an oriental dildo, is at first outraged by the intrusion, until Sara silently climbs onto the bed and performs oral sex on her.

Manga is delighted at what she takes to be Sara's complete submission, and goes and rubs her pussy in Anima's gagged face, gloating that she will keep her captive, and tell their warlord father that Anima accidentally fell from the cliffs.

The witch enters the bedroom, invisible to all except Sara. The witch laughs and in a puff of smoke transforms the room into a room of hell, and manga finds herself bound and gagged on her knees, forced to lick the witch's pussy with her gagged mouth. Anima is b&g next to her, and soon Sara appears to whip them both.

of course, to be continued.....

All actresses appear in flowing robes and wear kabuki style makeup throughout. A

Friday, July 26th 2002 - 11:13:28 AM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://www.extremeassociates.com/forcedvideo/

This is for Steve at Forbidden Video. You've mentioned the video Forced Entry by Extreme Associates a few times on this forum, saying it was rougher than anything being produced today. I've checked out their site and didn't really find much about the vid, other than a pic of a woman who appears to be covered in blood and a teaser description that really doesn't give any details (see the link above). Have you actually seen this tape, or do you know anything about it as to its content? You know me; I'll take a chance on new stuff, and I'm intrigued, but I'd still like to know what sort of stuff goes on in the vid. Any bondage, for one thing? Hardcore sex? Looks like there will be some snuff. What can you tell us about it?

Friday, July 26th 2002 - 08:31:49 PM

Name: BBFan
E-mail address: memfan@yahoo.com


Believe me when I say I've tried to find that out myself. Unfortunately, exhaustive info on all those Tao productions are hard to come by. I even went so far as to contact them and ask them directly, but their memories are very foggy. It may not have been a video at all, but just a shoot, but you are right in saying that that image was published at some point and someone must have info on it.

Regarding the quality of bondage videos over time, my impression is that the best work is done when it's a new outfit laboring from love of the genre. Just look at Bill Majors - his early work was nothing less than groundbreaking - the feel of those classic videos was Real, but now that it's gotten too big, it's all that weak shit you get from all the other producers. Same thing with HOM - they defined the medium, and then either sold out or went lame. Now Rick is still doing good work, but IMHO, his current work lacks that same realness that was present in those early 90s videos.

One other thing we can't ignore is that the web provides a more anonomous and convienient medium than vhs and magazines, and that may be affecting how much investment potential new players put into mass marketed videos.

Just my 3 cents.

Friday, July 26th 2002 - 09:26:57 PM

Name: Laughingboy
E-mail address: laughingboy_@excite.com

Ralphus: I saw it. Steve warned me against it but I wouldn't listen. The girls are pretty and buxom in sort of a professional way, but it was pretty weak in my opinion. Not very sexy despite it all. Can't hold a candle to zfx or insex. LB

Saturday, July 27th 2002 - 07:26:28 AM


Laughingboy:I've been debating the purchase of that video for some time now. When you say it's weak, in what sence do you mean? Is the acting just so horrible that the entire thing is too lame to get into or is the violence just very tame and weakly portrayed? I'm just curious because both the images and your description indicate that the women in it are HOT, and it's obviously supposed to be non-consensual which sounds like a very winning formula, but that's one expensive fucking tape. Would you be able to elaborate at all on what made it weak? Thanks.

Saturday, July 27th 2002 - 07:51:25 AM

Name: Bowersock

Thanks for your help Howie! Just look how many japanese rape DVD’s there are. http://www.dmm.co.jp/shop_en/index.html They don’t sell to customers outside Japan – fucking racists! I’d love to hear some more recommendations from you and others. I love violence, struggling, the ripping off of clothes, humiliation, enforced blowjobs, good beatings and so on and especially when the girls can’t take it any longer and start to cry. I haven’t many recommendations to offer myself. These are the DVD’s or vids that I think contain any entertainment at all: Violadas ao extremo (Grupo Fallms/DMV entertainment) 1, 3, Brazilian stuff. Avoid 4-6, vanilla crap! I haven’t seen 2, but it could be good to judge from some stills. La mante religieuse (Alkrys), 1 good rape scene, the rest is worthless Cruel rape at knife’s edge (Sniff) Vids from a new German (?) company called Genuine Films. I haven’t seen them offered on the web but found them in my local store. Well, it’s Eurostuff and probably not as rough as the jap vids but anyhow at least the girls scream and struggle. Cheers! P.S. I think this site would be improved

Saturday, July 27th 2002 - 08:57:47 AM


Bowersock: Do you know of any American sites that sell "Violadas ao extremo"? I ran a search for it and could only find it on a bunch of Spanish speaking sites.

By the way, your description of what you like in your films is one of the greatest descriptions I've ever read on this board. "I love violence, struggling, the ripping off of clothes, humiliation, enforced blowjobs, good beatings and so on and especially when the girls can’t take it any longer and start to cry." Damm, I think we can all bow are heads in a moment of silent contemplation and realize,........ you just really said it all. (^_^)

Saturday, July 27th 2002 - 12:42:12 PM

Name: Laughingboy
E-mail address: laughingboy_@excite.com

Howie- Gosh, it's kinda hard to explain. You know how a written description of a video can sound great and be accurate but the video itself is lame? Well, that's the case here. There are three victims. All have their clothes torn off and put up a short struggle but soon submit after being slapped around some. All three are penetrated in all orifices. One is has her pussy fisted roughly. The women whimper and cry, the bad guys heap loud verbal threats and abuse. One guy likes to spit in the victims mouth (which grosses me out). I know the description may sound good but, I have no desire to see it again. Do you want it?

Saturday, July 27th 2002 - 01:54:56 PM

Name: Max
E-mail address: hottr6@hotmail.com


Anyone notice that actresses are, in increasing numbers, shaving everything? Don't get me wrong, this has been one of my kinks for 15 years, and I'm glad it is coming into fashion.

Returning to an earlier thread, I forgot another film that was a landmark in my sexual development towards perversity; who can forget "Barbarella"? First off, Jane Fonda in spandex is tied to a pillar, and attacked by small birds that tear at her skin and clothing (sigh), and then later, she is subjected to the Orgasmotron (spelling?) which predates Rick's sexual torture by electronics by 25 years!

And finally, and honorable mention for Ms. Emma Peel in the Avengers. Leather, bondage and sci-fi are a match in heaven. I swear, people today complain that TV and mainstream movies are really pushing the envelope of voyeuristic sexuality, but the only thing that I found on TV which even comes close to the hi-camp stuff of the 60s is "Dark Angel". Jessica Alba would look really great tied out on a slab being "probed", all in the interests of medicine, of course!


Monday, July 29th 2002 - 08:13:13 AM

Name: DHT

submitted for your amusement.

DHT ZONE: "lost videos" 2

the second in a short series of postings I would like to do where I describe ZFX videos that were never made, but that I had fun thinking up myself and would like to share.

This should only be taken as amusement for all, including Rick himself, who I hope is not offended by my homages to his work.


starring Rick Masters, Bryan Dunhill, Penelope Pace

Wealthy Businessman Masters meets with hitman Marx in a bar, gives him folder full of info on his wife, played by Pace.

Marx abducts Pace in a parking lot, makes her drive to a secluded spot, binds/gags her with tape and puts her in trunk. drives her to his warehouse.

Pace spends alot of time taped to a chair, contemplating her fate. Marx sits across from her, explaining her fate. He sets up a video camera, then calls her husband at the bar. holds toe phone to her head, says, "anything to say?" She tries to scream through the tape. Marx fires a gun, at the wall, Pace shuts up. Marx tells Masters, "It's done" and hangs up the phone.

Marx turns to Pace, smiles, says, "Now I have all the time in the world. You get to live until I get bored."

Film the rest in your heads.

Monday, July 29th 2002 - 10:50:32 AM

Name: Daryl
E-mail address: dsuretow@hotmail.com

Hi. I'm just found this. Would like to contribute. Do you guys ever discuss a website called www.darkstarprods.com? It has bondage and rape art that is the best ever. I'm trying to think of the first Hollywood rape scene that caught my young perverted adolescent attention. There were so many in the late sixties and early 70's. Two Women with Sophia Loren comes to mind, but the best two were without doubt Raquel Welch in Hannie Caulder and Susan George in Straw Dogs. I rented alot of ZFX in the 90's. Great stuff. Too bad I never saw a hardcore one though.

Monday, July 29th 2002 - 12:54:26 PM

Name: Gonzo
E-mail address: bdfan01@hotmail.com

Which scene got me into BDSM?

My initial exposure was an HOM mag. I was maybe 14, walking to school on trash day. This was smack dab in the middle of Orange County white bread suburbia. For no particular reason, I kicked over a trash can. I happened to notice a couple of magazines spill out and for a hopeful second I figured them for playboys. I picked them up and I was stunned. Afraid of getting caught standing there, I stuffed them in my backpack and spent all day thinking about them. In particular I was captivated by a curly haired brunette with a deep tan. She was tied standing with her arms overhead, her toes barely touching the group and there was a look of real fear in her eyes.

I later learned that she only appears in a few HOM mags under the name of Lonnie Andrews in the early 80s. ANY scans that the HOM collectors out there can send me would be immensly appreciated. I have been trying to find that image for quite a while...

Anyway. Later on I was watching some bad B movies with friends. Among others they happened to have rented a REALLY bad movie called 'She' with Sandahl Bergman, the hot blond from Conan. She is tied and whipped in a brief, but very well done scene that stayed with me for a long time.

I also happened across a movie called 'All the Marbles.' This is just a wrestling movie, but the moves are well done and the action gets pretty brutal.

The first BDSM movie I ever rented was called 'Spy Trap' with Sara St James. At that point, I was hooked for good. --Gonzo P.S. Cool thread ZFX'r

Monday, July 29th 2002 - 12:59:41 PM

Name: Steve
Homepage URL: http://www.forbiddenvideo.com

Hey Raplhus, that "Forced Entry" video from Extreme is not a bondage flick. Its pretty bad, and when I said it was the worst I meant as far as violence. Its not really a good video. It does have real slapping to the point of the girl really bleeding, and a ton of verbal abuse, snuff with suffocating, etc. One scene has the rapist shoving a girls head into a toilet while he pisses all over her face, after they kicked and abused her. It has 3 or 4 segments, all pretty rough stuff. Out of the US productions, it is the most violent I have seen. Personally, I don't want to film stuff like that. It had no style, or creativity and I hated the editing. Anyway, thats it. DId yuo get the Poolman VHS yet? It was sent last week. Our new one, "Open House" will be sent to you this week. Thanks! Steve

Monday, July 29th 2002 - 05:52:46 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html

Regarding Forced Entry: Interesting. I wasn't expecting bondage, but it sounds more like a rough and nasty humiliation type of tape. Looks like no one around here seems to like it, but I'm still curious. Doesn't exactly sound like my snort of coke, but at least I have more information to work with now. Thanks for the description.

My review of The Poolman follows.

Monday, July 29th 2002 - 07:14:53 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html


I finally got a chance to take a look at The Poolman, Forbidden Video's latest release, and it's another mixed bag. It starts off well, when a man who comes to clean the pool discovers a beautiful redhead swimming in it. She gets out to shower while he's cleaning the pool, but he has other ideas on his mind. While she's in the bathroom, he sneaks into the house and rummages through drawers, looking for stuff to steal. He finds a camcorder and, unbeknownst to her, decides to make a little home movie of her in the shower. He's still filming her after she gets out and gets on the phone, where she calls a friend and we discover that this isn't her house after all, that she has an envelope full of money she stole and is secretly enjoying the expensive house and pool while her best friend is away.

Armed with this knowledge, the evidence safely tucked away in the camcorder, the pool man confronts the redhead with it and threatens to call the police on her. She offers him a small amount of money to keep quiet, but he lets her know what he would rather have, and he forces the girl to strip for him against her will. He sticks out his cock and makes her suck it for a while, while she loudly protests. Then he grabs her by the hair and leads her into the kitchen, announcing "Now the fun starts."

He makes her sit in a chair, then he finds some plastic wrap and he binds her to the chair with it, wrapping each of her legs to the chair legs and twisting the wrap around her wrists, so that her hands are tied behind her. Then he loops the wrap several times around her body and the chair, and leaves her to go out to his truck. As far as plastic wrap bondage scenes go, and they are relatively rare, this one is pretty decent. He comes back with a bandana to blindfold her, and uses a very thin cloth to gag her, more of an ornamental gag than an effective one, but she still looks hot that way. He pulls out a large dildo and teases her pussy with it for a while before cutting off the wrap. For bondage fans, this is all we get, because she is not tied in any way for the remainder of the tape, which makes one think that this one scene was added specifically to appease fetishists, because it just doesn't make much sense to throw in a bondage scene in the middle of a forced oral scene, then return for more forced oral and finally, forced sex.

He bangs the redhead several times in the pussy, and finishes by reaming her in the ass, at times grabbing her hair and fighting off her hands while she tries to stop him. Eventually, he makes her go back to sucking his cock after it's been inside her ass, and the film climaxes with him blindfolding her and shooting his gooey load all over her face. He makes her lay down on the floor, still blindfolded, and he throws a $20 bill at her before stealing the money in the envelope and driving away. It's only after he leaves that we realize he wasn't the real pool man after all.

This was another missed opportunity to make something special, because both performers give convincing performances and the action is sharply directed, so those important elements are there. The redhead, despite having her beautiful body marred by tattoos, is still gorgeous enough to ring my bell, and the bondage scene in the middle of the tape gives one an indication of what might have been. As it is, it's a better than average forced sex video, but those looking for bondage will be let down. I enjoyed it for what it was, but when will Forbidden Video learn what we really want? My grade: C+

Monday, July 29th 2002 - 07:18:06 PM

Name: Daryl
E-mail address: dsuretow@hotmail.com

At the risk of straying a bit off-topic, I wanted to recommend a couple of other series. They have zero bondage, but are good quality "quasi" rape tapes. One is the Slap Happy series. Very rough blow jobs with face slapping. Good sex. The non consensual elements are only inferred though. The other series is the "White Boy Stomp" series from Gangland. There are now 11 of them and they all involve gang bang by white men of black girls. Again non consensuality is only implied. They are about as rough as main stream porn gets though. Daryl

Tuesday, July 30th 2002 - 11:38:21 AM

Name: Tarantula Tom
E-mail address: anonymous

I just rented High Strung and really enjoyed it. I will have to add this to the list of videos I intend to buy. Of course I am attracted to busty brunets so Brandi Dukes fits the bill nicely. I did find myself longing for a scene where they suspend her by her breasts like I have seen done in Japanese S&M films but Rick Masters has never gone that far. Brandi Dukes has the tits for it. I also miss the day where actresses like Victoria Vixen had her tits swell up from the constriction of rubber bands (Misadventures of Lois Payne and Guinne Pigs II).

Don't get me wrong, I throughouly enjoyed watching her get beaten by a rubber hose while suspended in the air and the electrical treatment is extremely exciting. As for the later scenes with Lisa Kincade, they do take a long time for the action to happen and I became impatient. However, I don't think the pig-tails look was becoming on her. I think it probably would have been better with a pony-tail or hair up in a bun. But that is just me. Still the vacume on the breasts and the enema are worth fast-forwarding toward.

Tuesday, July 30th 2002 - 10:50:45 PM

Name: Max
E-mail address: see elsewhere


Great recommendation! I checked out www.darkstarprods.com and agree that this is, IMHO, the best artwork I have seen. Gary Roberts the artist does fine color work, his ladies are *very* appealing with tan-lines and are shaved, and the tension level is just right. The fellow has a great sesne of humor too.

I've always been a fan of extreme bondage and rape comic art. Aside from the fact that comic art can go "all the way", the artist has the ability to control perspective in a way that movie makers can only dream about. Sometimes the camera can be too real for its own good. The comic artists also has the ability to convey thought, either through the well-worn thought bubble, or exaggerated facial expressions. On the other hand, the comic artist will never ever be able to capture that thin sheen of sweat that covers the heroines body when being taken in the most heinous fashion!

A final though on bondage video and art: are there reasons why I like this form of art other that satisfying my kinks? Of course; I love the female form, but find that gyno-examination shots in normal porn a waste of time and off-putting. I much prefer seeing the whole female form in long- or middle-distance shots. Tying her arms behind her back make the breasts perkier and the shoulders squarer. It also causes them to stand with their legs slightly parted for balance, always a perennial invitation to the male eye. Suspending women by their arms lifts the breasts and flattens the stomach. And finally, plain vanilla sex presents the woman in a generally accepting role, whereas a little restraint will make her defiant and proud and in need of a little tutorial in respect.

Ergo sum, IMHO, a little bondage brings out the best in women. I see it as a masculine nurturing instinct ;)


Wednesday, July 31st 2002 - 09:02:36 AM

Name: Scribbler

Gary Roberts used to post to this board. Check the archives. Try January 2001 and months around it.

Wednesday, July 31st 2002 - 03:35:27 PM

Name: Daryl
E-mail address: dsuretow@hotmail.com

Yes, Robert's girls are totally mouthwatering. What appeals to my own taste also is that the girls' male tormentors are focussed on getting laid. I always prefer it when forced sex is the central theme, with physical restraint and moderate pain infliction remain subordinate activities. I'll never understand how it is that bondage purists seem to get more pleasure from the idea of restraint and the infliction of extreme pain than they do from traditional physical sexual release. That's my own definition of the difference between pure BD/SM and Male Dom. The Male Dom only uses BD/SM as a part of his expression of sexual dominance. In his best moment, the male dom sexually subjegates an extremely desirable, arrogant and unwilling female. In my male dom world, the woman must be also "turned" i.e. forced to acknowledge the dom's sexual prowess by succumbing to powerful unwilling orgasms. BD/SM is used by the male to demonstrate his superior physcial strength and control, but his defining act is sexual conquest. Mainstream BD/SM i.e. the gymnastic rope tricks and extreme pain infliction (and worse) for what seems to non purists to be for its own sake, is alien to me and is why I probably don't belong on this board.

Wednesday, July 31st 2002 - 08:20:48 PM

Name: Ralphus
E-mail address: ralphus44@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/zfxetc/reviews01.html

Daryl: I disagree. I think you belong here. The people who read this board have wildly diverging interests, and there are many who prefer the sexual aspect of bondage over the infliction of pain for its own sake. I happen to like both and frankly, I think the two go together, like chocolate and peanut butter. Your average ZFX video usually offers rape scenes to go along with the torture. Forbidden Video, on the other hand, is almost entirely geared towards rape in their videos, and very light on torture. Nothing wrong with that. I like rape videos. But restraint is the key in either case, in that it helps with the controlling of the female victim. The oft-repeated adage is true, that unless she's tied down, she could always get up and run away. It's really that simple. What you decide to do with her is up to you once you've got her, but you have to tie her up first. Anybody else have any opinions?

Wednesday, July 31st 2002 - 09:11:56 PM

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